The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - KAREGA BAILEY in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

The 85 South Crew sits down with KAREGA BAILEY for another great conversation in the Trap! || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.comSee... omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:33 And you're going to realize you fall short every day. Because I'm a dirty nigga. I'm a dirty nigga. What's you got right here? Oh, this is going to be for y'all. This is the book. That's going to be yours. That's gonna be yours
Starting point is 00:02:58 Johnny, that's gonna be yours Everybody get a copy Thank you, my brother We can get to it We may get to it We're definitely gonna get to it It's a gift that I'm giving I appreciate it family
Starting point is 00:03:09 We ready? You ready, D.C.? Yeah, we're ready. Hey man, welcome back to 85th, Samson, Hey man, you know what's hand, yeah! Oh yeah, I got a little literature, man D. D.C., who we got in here with us today? Man, we got some soulful brothers, you dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:26 yeah some real down-the-earth artists legends especially when you're talking about you know I'm saying Sacramento coming out of California you dick what I'm saying we got emmy we can just talking about artists just being in the studio of rapping shit you know niggas got plats any and shit like that think what I'm saying you gotta be tapped in music just ain't music just ain't music just because you ain't heard. I'm going to say that again. Music ain't music because you ain't heard. Feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:06 It's so much classical music that you got to tap into. And then I think that's why we, this is the great time because we got all these different DXPs or we can just go search as much music as we can. Absolutely. And these group of individuals is every time they piece or put anything together, they compose. anything, man, just be classic.
Starting point is 00:04:28 You dig what I'm saying? We got artists, Carrie. You dig what I'm saying? Come on, man. Big Town producer Jenny Gould. Stop. Man, what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:40 Big what I'm saying? Hey, man, happy to be here. More different, man. Hey, man, we appreciate y'all stopping through here. I need a whole boy, for real, man. You know what I'm saying? This is family. Come on.
Starting point is 00:04:50 That's why I feel so good. That's why I don't know you. You don't understand. You don't understand. For real. Yeah, for real, for real. No, it's love to even be here with y'all and, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Just be able to do this, you know what I mean? So we really appreciate that. Talk to and talk. But Juna is behind a lot of shit that I've already known and shit. Like, he pieced the beat up. Like, no, it was him who pieced the beat up. Maybe somebody else got the recognition for it, but.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yeah, I mean, it go like that. It just, it was a learning process for me. Right. Getting into the game early, Early as like, you know, 18 years old was like my first placement with, was it Genuine at the time? Yeah, I think it was genuine. What's on was it? I don't even remember the name of the record at the moment.
Starting point is 00:05:42 But Genuine was the first, like, official artists tapping to say, hey, I like, I like these beats, you know what I mean? And that, um, that was in the D.C. Maryland, Virginia area. and I had lived out there and I just learned a lot with just working with artists. I didn't know nothing about no publishing I didn't know nothing about no proper crediting I didn't know nothing about that.
Starting point is 00:06:07 All I knew is I got these beats and I want to give them to folks. You know what I'm saying? So along the way, you know what I'm saying I started to learn I started to learn what it looked like to have proper, you know, representation what it looked like to own your masters or what it looked like to you know just how
Starting point is 00:06:29 everything broke down and uh i was able to gain a lot of experience by working with artists like that and working with hit maker and working with you know just a whole lot of artists and producers and whatnot that definitely got the gold sauce all in all them records and and a lot of guys still use the formula that was laid down and uh but now it's a new day you know what I'm saying we got we got new records, this shit don't stop, you know what I mean? So, yeah. That's dope. That's dope. I'm thinking about, like, John in his records and what we've been able to, like, do and create.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Right. And you're right, bro. He's behind a lot of, he's behind a lot of people's down. And he's also one of them, you know, one of them producers and writers who's not selfish. He'll lend the idea just to make the record better, even through his record. So I've seen him touch a lot of records that wasn't his and just lay the idea that might, make it better and in fact it did right so shout out to to you go oh yeah yeah yeah 24 y'all oh yeah yeah yeah yeah 24 hours man we you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:07:32 me and my brother we was able to yeah yeah yeah man yeah we was all able to get together and go crazy you know what I'm saying I'm sorry my boy Spencer you know what I'm sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah see I love that shit you know what I even I met Johnny doing a what the hell I was doing a magazine interview it was a uh It was a hip-hop magazine interview. It was a hip-hop magazine interview. He downsteads in the studio. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:08:01 He just so happened to him. He was, pro, me said, hey, what's up? I was like, shit. I was like, what I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I know you do music or that woo-woo. He was like, but if you ever in LA, I'd be over here, you know what I'm saying, holding the dime through the dude. But we hear that shit all the time as artists.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I'm like, he's like, let me play you some. I'm like, damn, he doesn't count me. I'm like, fuck. I got the hiss. I got the hit song. You feel? I'm like, all right. I go in this studio.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I'm like, let me see what's heading. He played some. I'm like, all right. You play something else? I'm like, all right. I'm like, you record it down here? He's like, yeah, a nigga, ooh, I don't know how to engineer.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That one thing we're artists, bro, we hate recording with new niggas. Because it's like buying weed from a new person where you don't know what you're smoking. He may say he can record, get there, don't know how to. do no plug-in, don't know how to do nothing. It'd be like, all right, I'm gonna try it out. And when I went in, not only did he had this shit already, like he had it laid out already, like, oh, you gotta do it just going there and rap, insane.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Don't worry about this part. I'm gonna show you, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I was like, oh, this nigga ain't cat. Oh, he's late, oh, nick, that's fucking done. Say no more. We locked in, been locked in ever since. So. He said all the time
Starting point is 00:09:24 and since the cook, not the kitchen. Right? Well, John really got experienced cooking. I remember, like, it started way back for him. Him and me, he started back in like 95. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:37 John used to sneak out the house with my older brothers to go learn how to collect the studio. Right? Because, so. Yeah, because my mom wasn't late. She wasn't going for it. No.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Studio. No. No. No. No. No. It was in 95. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Those hours? You're going where? You ain't going to no studio? Right. When my brothers was in the music at that time, so John would tell his mom he was coming over to kick him with me, but he would sneak out with my brothers and go learn how to work everything, so we could figure out how to get these songs out.
Starting point is 00:10:02 We had songs in our head all the time, but he had to passively really figure this shit out, right? So that was one of the earliest ways he was getting into it. And they were like, you know, we were around 16. We started making our own records. We convinced one of our mentors. I never forget, we had to sit down with Intel. right because it was about
Starting point is 00:10:23 bridging the digital divide because like it's like okay cool we're going to give you our computer lab we're like we're going to do a computer lab you can make a studio it's about the same required the same thing
Starting point is 00:10:35 and we made a pitch we were like 15 and 16 and got them to sponsor the first studio and that's when the music first started happening yeah oh that's hard y'all 15 and 95 but y'all show it all no no no no no no no
Starting point is 00:10:48 no no no no no no no no no no no no No, no, no. No, we've been friends since we was little kids. We've been friends since 95, you know, racing in school. Man, don't let that nigger try to shame you, man. Niggins, six-foke. You got a brother. Grandbrother.
Starting point is 00:11:08 That's one of our favorites. And you know what's funny about that first studio, though, that we got Victoria Monet at the time, because she's from Sacramento as well. Right. So we had our one brother Drew, Scott, who was cold on the keys, but he was known all throughout the city. He was like one of them cast that play at church. Every church.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He might play at this church on the 8 o'clock service, play at this church at the 12 o'clock. So he was like that. But he was young, too. We were the same age. So he would come through the studio. We were produced together. And one time, Victoria, she came in,
Starting point is 00:11:43 and she was maybe a year younger than us. She might maybe be 15, about 15, 60, now the time. She was like, hey. Yeah, I think I want to sing. And we're like, all right, come on. We're going to show you how to do it. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:55 You know. Oh, look, he called. He got that. I don't want to interrupt, walk. Bring your ass on. He's like, man, I just got to walk. You betwixtric. Hurry your ass.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Damn. She cold, too. Yeah, yeah. She's cold. Yeah. What she went on to do is amazing. So it's some real talent to come up out of Sacramento, man. Facts.
Starting point is 00:12:18 For sure, for sure. Oh, no, so we'll get you right. We'll be... Yeah, we can't officially start to show to somebody. It might go out. Oh, I'm telling. It's like, it's like, hey, we was all sick. Every time, like, hey, excuse me, let me get you,
Starting point is 00:12:32 let me get your mic back. No, no, yeah. Can I get your mic back? Yep, just having all the time. Can I get your mic back? Let me get that. Let me get about you. You, you're right here.
Starting point is 00:12:42 A little hand for the show, uh, who don't want to butt around? Who do you want to put a hand around? Oh, yeah. Yeah, hurry up. That nigger was creeping up. He just so hands. You're just so hands coming to the seat. Oh, what, he was sitting on the couch and came behind.
Starting point is 00:12:59 That nigg got some hands. That shit was funny. That nigga, damn it here, bro. We back on. We back on. We were right there. Ra, ra, pa,
Starting point is 00:13:20 pa, fuck you, man. So, check this out, right. Being from this situation, like, understand,
Starting point is 00:13:26 like, how did she go, like, explain when the Amy and, like, the recognition and all that's starting to come into fruition.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Like, explain that. That's a crazy entry point. It's a, one, it's like one of them awards that you never would have, you would have,
Starting point is 00:13:43 you would have never wanted life to take you in a direction that won you that award. Right. Um, but, um, I'm part of a collective, sort of I have a music group,
Starting point is 00:13:55 soul development, and we're part of a collective called Be Imaginative. And we do healing circles from mothers who lost children to gun violence. Damn, right? And that work came to my life
Starting point is 00:14:06 because, you know, naturally, one of the brothers that really got to John under the wing and got him in the studios, my older brother, Kareem, he was shot and killed in 2014. I'm sorry, Yeah. So we started really, I had already been, the context is this.
Starting point is 00:14:23 While John is doing this work in D.C. and working on the records, I'm a teacher, right? So I was a special education teacher in Southeast D.C. and northeast D.C. After I finished school, I went in to teach special education. And after I taught special education, I became the dean of students. So when I became the dean at like 24, I was able to create programs and create culture. So I'll never forget. This is why it all tie in. I'm in my office when I get the call to my brother pass,
Starting point is 00:14:54 and my students had experienced so much loss at that time. They can see what the phone call looked like. They know what that shit looked like. And Trey Vaughn was his name. He's the one that helped me up. But all this becomes, like, really part of how to work. Because when I start to go into gun violence interruption spaces, I knew what this shit could feel like because I saw it on my students first.
Starting point is 00:15:13 they was walking through the school with missing siblings and homies and having to walk through that so they taught me a lot right they're like my first grief mentors so when it came time for me to like to work on I was working on an album at the time
Starting point is 00:15:27 it's called Peace King I never forget and I was me and John was working on it my goal was to take it back because I was living in DC at the time my goal was to take it back to Kelly let my brothers hear it so I can see how I matured
Starting point is 00:15:40 like you know what I'm saying am I nice yet you know what I'm saying And granted, I knew I was nice But what I'm saying is you want to earn the certain Like, yeah, that shit is real from certain people But I didn't get a chance to present that album to Korea Right So I had to keep working on it because it wasn't done now
Starting point is 00:15:57 So that gets me into the space like working And telling the stories around gun violence interruption And telling the stories with loss So then my group sold development We did a documentary with KQED in the Bay We sat down with them And they were like, we want to do a story on y'all. Because at this time, we're all teachers, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:17 We're not just teachers. Now we're school founders. So shout out to Rose and Concrete, Oakland, California. What took me to Oakland was I got a call from the homie, Jeff Duncan Andrade. And he was like, yo, I need your help getting the school open. What you're talking about? I'm living in D.C. at the time. And he's like, check your email.
Starting point is 00:16:34 We just got approved for the charter. So it was a school called Roses and Concrete, and it was a Tupac Legacy School. right so I met dude on the speaking circuit I was trying to go to grad school he was a dope lecturer so we connected but I moved to Oakland to help launch this school and that's how we sat down with KQED in the Bay Area
Starting point is 00:16:55 they're like these teachers are amazing and their music is amazing they said we can do a story about you as teachers in the community cool we can do a story about like the music and making the music cool but they learned that like my brother had just passed a year prior and they saw me like
Starting point is 00:17:11 really working through that, or we can do a story about you all's work in gun violence interruption. And that's the work that they chose to follow. Now, so the Emmy comes in, it's crazy because we're doing a film. It's called When the Waters Get Deep, and it's available right now. It's on all platforms, on YouTube. Look it up. They played it in my, I got a homie that came home from the pen, bro. He saw this because it was on PBS in the penitentiary. And he was like, man, I got to meet, bro. So the dude came out to meet me, just to really acknowledge how I was telling that story surrounding, you know, the nuances, loss, revenge, grief, anger, all the feelings that are justified. While doing this film, we're filming when the waters get deep. While filming
Starting point is 00:18:02 this film, my wife and I experienced a full-term loss. So we were pregnant with our firstborn child. This is a 41-week pregnancy. So you asked me, how do we get into the Emmy? That story became, then the pandemic came. So we were going to take this film on tour, but we couldn't take the film on tour. So we created another film with the tour budget. And this one was called Dear Beloved. The mothers that we were talking about, the mothers that were in our first documentary,
Starting point is 00:18:34 they now had the courage to read letters to their sons. They're reading letters to their sons. We're in a 16th Street station, West Oakland, B.J. McBride, director, another one from Sacramento. This is all people from SAC, but we're in there, bro. And Soul Development records another album. It's called Dear Beloved, and that project is the Emmy Award-winning project. So that's how we got to the Emmy. Asked me how I got there, bro, a path that I would have never chose, a path that no man would choose. But it only happened when I kept putting one foot in front of the other.
Starting point is 00:19:09 because I couldn't go back. Can't go back. Damn. With the echo, that shit's down the crazy. You can't go back. I can't go back. I heard the echo. Hey, but look, for me, it's just a trip. To be able to speak it as freely,
Starting point is 00:19:27 one, I can only tell the story like that. One, because I feel I'm with my nigs. I feel safer here. Right. Nobody, like, going back to any moment of particular vulnerability to revisit a part that don't feel like it don't give you good feelings, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:42 But it'd be like, it'd be really novice to try to fast forward past that part or not bring that part to a space that's as real as this to me because all I know is real talk over here. And you just realize how many, you know, how many times people are carrying things that you can't see,
Starting point is 00:20:01 evolving through things that you can't see. Like, did I think any time during those points of loss that I think that anything would bring me to a conversation like this for people who bring joy to me and I laugh with and I chill with and I bill with it and I pray with I didn't think a conversation from from that point of my life would bring me here but we're here dog look yeah love we're here yeah yeah absolutely you got a hand on both of y'all we hear about it you did what I'm saying I think that that be the the lessons like you said man that we don't know until we go through it, and we don't choose
Starting point is 00:20:40 any of our trauma. You dig what I'm saying? And what we learn from the trauma is what's going take us to the next step anyway. You feel me? We allow the trauma to overcome. Then you're not
Starting point is 00:20:56 really seeing the full purpose in the lesson. You feel me? Then you got people that say, well, you must don't feel something. I ain't never told you. I ain't never felt nothing. I'm telling you you keep going. Right. So you'd rather me tell you what you want to hear versus what you need to hear? Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:25:33 I just had to keep going. That's all I said. Yeah. I'm not going to encourage you to cry, but I'm not saying it wasn't okay if you did. Yeah. All I'm telling you what you need in order for you to keep going. You want to shut down. They're like, what you told me and what I wanted to hear because I got some emotions that I got to let go.
Starting point is 00:25:57 No, I know that. Yeah. That's why I didn't tell you what you wanted to hear. I told you what you needed to hear because what you wanted to hear probably ain't. good for you. Too. On the real. On the real.
Starting point is 00:26:14 On the real. What you want. It don't boil down to what you want. Sure does it. Not a lot of times. Real. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:26 It becomes really, it's really the art of, I think, I call it's right, keep going. The art of relentless, incrementalism. Micro steps, you just got to keep, just keep stacking them. You keep going in some way somehow, right? I take it to the point where it's like, I can't tell nobody how anything is ever going to end up.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I just know that the richest man in the world can't go backwards. There's nothing that allows us to go backwards. So the only place you can go is forward. You can't stay still. You can't stay in it. You cannot stay in it. because even it's changing. So what I've learned this from just by going forward,
Starting point is 00:27:08 it's not an advice, it's just reference. I can't tell nobody how to deal with nothing. I can just give you reference because everybody trying to find their steps. So reference is what we do, bro. It became more than just like... It's how you learn. It's how you used to keep yourself sustained
Starting point is 00:27:24 because even off of just hearing what you said, a lot of people like to replay, like to replay pain or to replay the trauma. And if you know you don't like the pain, why replay it? Yeah, yeah. So I try my best to anything that got altered me
Starting point is 00:27:47 to not replay it. I think I'm gonna pray to that a little bit more. You hear what I'm saying? I'm like, God damn, bro. I ain't saying cry, but God, you're trying to cry every day game. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You feel me? For what, for that what, but at what, for whom is it good for, right? Like, what is this fascination, right, with seeing me in this state? What is this fascination with seeing us in the state? But once you realize it's emotion, once you let it all out and realize, damn, I still got, keep on. It's like, okay, at that point, then what is it? It's a release point. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:28:31 So, okay, then that's when you be like, okay, that's when I try to keep yourself in good grace, so you just won't have unexpected releases. See what I'm saying? You've got to channel, so you'd be like, okay. Because certain things can trigger certain shit, where you were like, oh, shit. Yeah. You're like, yeah, that's an unexpected one. Yeah, you ain't know that one going to call it.
Starting point is 00:28:53 How do you get yourself together? See, the craziest part is like that the whole path is, ain't none of it predictable. You know what I'm saying? None of it is like what you just want it to be. You just take it, you realize the artist ain't taking it one day at a time. But the truth, what I'm saying is like, it ain't, you can't predict it. And it don't, it's not you hiding it. It's just that's like, it's going to come when you least suspected.
Starting point is 00:29:19 It's not coming at a convenient time. Those feelings, they come. They real. They real. And you learn to acknowledge it. You learn to figure out what it's coming to tell you. And you learn how to keep navigating the responsibility of, one foot in front of the other
Starting point is 00:29:33 I feel like it's like a spiritual war look at it like being in the war right no matter how afraid or how frustrated they might be they have to keep a certain composure in order for them to get to the next destination so if you're in the battlefield
Starting point is 00:29:49 and this boom all this shit going and the folks going right like you're like ah shit turn tight yeah total chaos but then you have to rely on your training You got to rely on your training.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And what is that training that you've been so purposefully training on? Wow. This is when it kicks in. Hey, let me tell you something about that training. So this is my brother right here, man. So I've seen him go through loss after loss, but having resilience and also seeing him stand in a space for students, for relatives, and friends.
Starting point is 00:30:29 But now when he's in a space where he's in a space where he's, he needs that support, it's like, man, it's kind of hard to find. So he had this book. He had this book written, and it wasn't even a book at the point. It was him just getting into a practice of, you know, let's just write some affirmations. Right. You know what I'm saying? Let's just make this a healthy practice of writing affirmations.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And he had the composition of affirmations done. And I remember we were sitting at his kitchen table after, after, the loss of Kamaiu so and he was like bro I just don't got the answers I just don't know what I just I can't I don't want to hear nothing and I say you might not want to hear this bro
Starting point is 00:31:16 but you already did the work it's in that book and I damn sure I wasn't trying to hear it I've even remember and I remember because it's coming from my dog too right so it's like you ain't trying to bark on a nigger but it's the only place I can really tell you how I feel.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Nick, I don't feel like hearing none of that, right? None of it. I don't care what's in there. But it's just, it matter when you have solid people besides you. You did what I'm saying. And when I realized that, like, my own experiences were not just my own experiences. First things first. Like, yes, it feels like it's just you.
Starting point is 00:31:56 But it's never just you. Like, none of us are just us. So when I realize that other people having experiences, similar to my lived experiences, I realize that reference is what we need. We need more reference. We need more stories. We need our voice, right?
Starting point is 00:32:13 We need black men's voice, included in the healing conversation, including in how we're doing, including how we checking on each other. Like, we need our own voice because it's very easy for them and the general public to assume we don't feel. It's very easy for them to assume that we don't have feelings. And this isn't just like modern.
Starting point is 00:32:37 This is a historical practice. We're not as human, so we don't have all the human emotion. But we do got full range of emotion. So I just realized that, bro, like, I needed to leave reference along the journey from my experiences in case somebody else has an experience. They got something they could rely on. Yeah, bro. They got a place they can start from.
Starting point is 00:32:58 They're not starting from scratch. because we have a grief of literate society. A lot of people don't know how to deal with it. But I'm so thankful that I was brought up in the church. But God got his hands on me. And I know that's my only best friend. And that's why I know who got the answers. Just like how you see, like you might not say,
Starting point is 00:33:20 I don't want to hear right now. You know how many times a nigger might be like, I don't want to hit, but at the end of the end of the day, I know I got the head. Yeah, yeah. Somebody got to say it. So it's more so like I are in the condition to know that there's this way of feeling and thinking and then there's this way that I have to move.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Even when you feel like this, you know you got to move like this, but it always shows you the separate, the separate two of why. Yeah. This is going to always be the best rock. Yeah. You would never not have these feelings because you're human. Yep. Say that.
Starting point is 00:34:06 It's spiritual. You have to be struggling enough to always choose this side. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Yes, I agree, and I believe that happens through practice and repetition. Right? That is what the faith is, is practice and repetition, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And I, like you said, we're partnered, so I really know how it get down. I ain't seen you step to no stage ever, ever, no matter how many tour dates, no matter how many tired, how tired you are, no matter how much time you got between. I ain't never seen you step to the stage without sitting inside you and giving you your thanks, right? So it's like the repetition. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:34:38 What I realized is that we all need practice with repetition. And how we train our minds is going to have a whole lot to do with how we respond in time of need. It ain't when time is easy. So the affirmations is like creating the conditions for us to rehearse the knowings so that we know how to move
Starting point is 00:34:56 in case whatever the day is, where whatever it brings itself. But in terms of like the faith, I just tell you like this, bro, there's just absolutely no way. There's absolutely no way I could have made it to today without the faith that I hold true. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:35:14 There was no tomorrow. Yes, sir. You did what I'm saying. I remember, I just remember telling the enemy, like, you get nothing. I said that out loud. I declare it out loud because I just knew that, like, I already knew what happened when I lost my brother.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I remember how to, I remember what revenge feel like. I remember how it creep into your brain and become your best friend and all these ideas become the shit that you can't, like you have, not necessarily obsessed over, but you can't get rid of the feeling, get rid of the idea. So I knew early and on like, look, bro, you get nothing on this one. No matter how hard I fall, no matter what it feel like, it's going to be me and God at the beginning and the end of this. And here we are.
Starting point is 00:35:52 He's still getting glory. He's still using, he's still mobbing. Yes, sir. front of the other. So it's like, it's all those things. It ain't no fast forward, but it's just all those things is who creates who's on the couch today, right? And we still evolving. It creates while we're on 85 South today. It's like for me, bro, you know how many times I come to the show, I remember coming to the show in the height of some of my pain. And John was like, hey, I need you and feet to come out and laugh. That's crazy. I'm telling you the truth. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:23 the first Oakland show. Yeah. Where you had the, uh, you had me. Yeah, bro Hey, listen, bro, I'm telling you on the real We didn't just go to To go and pop out We came because it was a real place we needed We needed the laughter We needed the stories
Starting point is 00:36:40 We needed the layers And, you know, y'all took good care of us So my wife felt safe Because she didn't want to necessarily be out Right, but we needed to be out We need to change Solid brothers in your corner To throw you a play and they say, hey man
Starting point is 00:36:53 This just change its frequency up a little quick So for me It's just a real, real profound, fuller circle that I'm here kicking with y'all. You know what I'm saying? You know, you know what I'm saying? That's the part that mean a lot to everybody. It ain't just being here. It's about, man, look where the niggas had to keep mobbing.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Look how they had to keep going. And look how they treated each other on the way, right? Look how they evolved on the way. Look how he treat his family on the way. Like, I'm living by those virtues That's still putting one foot from the other Still creating meaningful art Still making sure my brother's like
Starting point is 00:37:35 I need, brothers deserve to be well Yes, sir We privileged That's the name of the next book Brothers deserve to be well Come on, hey, put that down No cap You want it
Starting point is 00:37:48 You deserve to be well Yeah, real talk And like you and I may be privileged Because we have as heavy as a cross it is privileged to have good sense, privilege to have faith, privilege to have people who are willing to play a role to make sure all the needs are meant, right?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Not every brother got that. Right. Not everybody got somebody solid in a corner like you got it like I got. So if we don't create the conditions for our brothers. I got somebody solid in my corner too. I was like, I didn't look at him. You get me.
Starting point is 00:38:20 You got somebody's solid too, man. But on the real, though, right? So, like, if we recognize that we had these privileges by design or whatever, we got to make sure we put game on the table, create the conditions, and put the resources out there for all of our brothers to be well. No matter where they fall on. Where can they get this book at? Man, that book is available everywhere.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Talk on top. That's soul affirmations. You can find it. So all my merch is sold under the music. It's actually under the, because of music first, but that's going to be on Bad Camp. Go to Soul Affirmations. IG, it's in the link in the bio.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Go to my IG, Corriga Bailey. It's in the link in the bio. It's available everywhere. And check it out, though. Just because it's a book, right? But not everybody got privileged to have time to sit down. Some people's commuting, some people putting kids to bed. Some people are just trying to make it work.
Starting point is 00:39:16 So we create an album out of this as well, right? So it's not just a book. And it's not an audio book. It's an actual album. Oh, we got one, right? What it is? I got to get this book, Sam, bro. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Oh, yeah. So the book is, it became an album. I'm signing that for you. Okay, man. It became an award-winning podcast with my wife and I, Soul Affirmations with Corriga and Felicia. My wife wrote another one, Soul Affirmations, a toolkit for mothers
Starting point is 00:39:45 who are investigating griefs process. Because I told you, we sat down with mothers who lost children, right? And I'm going to tell you like this, too, bro. there's a whole lot of things they think gangsters do and people like there's a lot of fantasies in the hood about like how we
Starting point is 00:40:03 the money and what people got and how bro it's so seldom that the hood come up and pull up and sit with the mama like it's seldom and because they don't know how to sit with her that feeling is too overwhelming but sometimes she's not looking for you for answers bro
Starting point is 00:40:21 she's looking to me, just check for her. She know you don't got answers. You're not God. You know what I'm saying? The way that woman missed her baby, you can't bring him back. She's not looking for you for answers. But we get so caught up and, like, think we've got to have answers for something that we'd be staying away from these moms.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So I'm like, the hood really needed, you know, go check on the mama. Go check on your partner, mama. Go pull up on her. You can see how's she doing. You don't got to have no answers. You don't got to have nothing. Just go see about her. Like, that's one of the things I realize, one that the moms deserve.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So I just got to put that out there. Man, go check on your partner, mama. You know what I'm saying? If you can, if it's in resource, if it's in reach, let's go pull up on her. Let's go pull up on her. It don't got to be the son birthday. She's not going to get the emoji hands on social media.
Starting point is 00:41:05 She's not on social media like that. So when you post that on an anniversaries, those aren't going to her. You feel what I'm saying? So we've got to go pull up on our elders. But I'll just put that out there because that's what I want us to do. But yeah, bro, great, the conditions for us to be well. It's the resources, it's the music.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I'm gonna sign your book. I'll make sure I sign your book. John, we got another, uh, the album on the way. What? Wings over waves. When you didn't drop? Uh, it's gonna drop in May. It's dropping in May.
Starting point is 00:41:35 A lot of May stuff dropping, man. I don't know, man, I gotta drop, man. I gotta ask for all my producer friends and, you know, up and coming second, third, fourth generations, man. Say, you cold with it, John and go. What's going on? Drop some game on the up and coming producers, man. Producers, for the up-and-coming producers, make beats every day, number one.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Make beats every day. Just get your beat catalog up, so that way when it's time to press play, when you're in the studio and it's time to press play, you got stuff to go through, you know what I mean? So have rapid fire, number one. number two um learn about publishing learn about
Starting point is 00:42:22 intellectual property he'll learn that shit learn about your rights you know what just just learn how to collect all your money as a as a producer
Starting point is 00:42:34 that's a thing who don't plan don't give you that he's like what what you're like what
Starting point is 00:42:45 You know what I mean? He said what? What? I ain't going to take it. I've been waiting on this piece before an hour. Yeah. Go ahead. You get the first line then, gang.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah, it don't matter to me. Oh, see, I'm a nigga that don't like to do not like to overstay. He'll welcome. No, you get the first piece. I don't want you to be telling nobody I got the first piece. Man, the nigger took it. Hey, bring the other one back. Why, I got two of them, man.
Starting point is 00:43:11 The nigger took the fur piece. No, buddy. You feel it? Bros for and everything, I try to get some dominole out of state. I told them make a gentle idea. They did not. You got to have to connect. They did not.
Starting point is 00:43:23 What's special about that one? You see it? Okay. Okay, yeah, it is stick. They're never like this. They're a little fuck with somebody black with a little meat on their bones. Somebody said, you got to puff that up. All that thin, that stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Don't nobody want to eat bread all day. Puffing that up. They're puffing that up. One thing about the 85 stars. We're going to eat, man. They're going to have something to eat. Got a bust down. We spoke to do the weed out the hand of who.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Got a bust down. What? Man, y'all, you know, I don't know what to. I appreciate it. I'm, I'm, I might get involved. You might as well. Yeah. We just having a little piece of party, man.
Starting point is 00:44:02 A little piece of party, man. Ain't nothing but a pizza part. If you're a guy, I want to have no piece party, your cat won't shit. You're glad to be the ultimate reward. Oh, yeah, y'all went on that, niv. What? What? Don't you tell you about a pizza party.
Starting point is 00:44:15 the first day in school and the pizza party into the last day. I told you, this is the same bullshit I was just, I was just talking about. And I never forget I got sick at one of any years. I did everything, I did everything I was supposed to do to earn that damn pizza party. Man, I try to sneak out of the house. My mom came and got me from that bust out. Talking about you're sick, you can't go. I'm like, nah, I didn't get this pizza.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I need this pizza. And if I don't go, John going to get the pizza, and he's going to couple skate. And I'm a 10. He's going to take the girl, he's going to couple skate. That's the best way to do it. You know, I'm going to take the girl the coupleskate with. Mom, I got to go a couple skate and have his pizza. You know what I'm going to wait all year for this.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Damn, pizza parties used to go up. Absolutely. That's crazy what type of damn incentive they dangle over kids' heads. Because pizza used to be a luxury. Mm-hmm. Real talk. Not knowing this one shit. You get a pizza on a Friday night and it'd be the best weekend.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Oh, for sure. Remember when there was enough pizza to have leftovers all weekend? Oh, more. Yeah. Yes. Your whole family ain't a splashes and shit. And there was still six splashes left. That's the best. That's the best. That is the best. But with that one left in there, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:27 He'd been left in there three days, turned up. Ain't nobody going to touch it, though. Nah, he just started curling up? Yeah. My sister, my sister with. Oh, you got somebody with? Mm-hmm. That's to start curling up like this.
Starting point is 00:45:38 That's the work. That's the work, pizza. Oh, too. This was ordered frack. This man's on the food. He took two of the last splashes to work. The cheese was transparent on the mother. He didn't even heat him up.
Starting point is 00:45:54 He just left him in his truck on the dad. That's sad. He ain't lying. That's somebody working at him. This is he going to eat that shit right now. Right now. Right now. No, he's going to go on Friday, but it was Saturday, though.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Technically it was Saturday morning. It was Saturday morning, so he ain't lying. Well, you're stupid, well. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy.
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Starting point is 00:50:32 But you know, it's crazy when you think about, like, just the nature, what we used talking about with the whole pizza, the leftovers, it's just, these are the daddy going to take that one to work. Hey, we really make a whole lot work out of leftovers, bro. I want a leftover man. You wouldn't? Hell, no. Hey, all the time, we order shit just so we can have the leftovers.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Like, leftovers spaghetti hit so hard on about day two, day three. What? After everything unsettled in season? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. This particular food, if it were left over, it was sour. Don't you eat that. Anything that go in that refrigerator is done.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Anything? anything that go in and you got to take it back out and re-heat. Man, in this house home, ah, hi. That's crazy. Oh, you better check that pain. You better, first of all, I might be a roach in that pie. Hey, look. We didn't leave no food in no refrigerator.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Oh! A roaches some fuck. Who roaches up your fuck? How cold that boy fucking there? They get this. Cover that food. With boots on. It's supposed to be saving there, nigga.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Nicky was starting to robes. I was stuck to roachie, but I'm telling you, but no leftovers in my house. I feel excited for you. Pizza, that was a luxury. A piece of absolute luxury. A piece of luxury. Absolutely luxury.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Man, I remember school lunch used to be here, man. That square pieces used to be a boon of it. A square joint. Especially when she gets that fresh slice, you see her. She pulled that rack out. The whole pan. She pulled that bull, and then she spit it. You're like, ooh, that bitch that spit that bit.
Starting point is 00:52:16 She's spit that bitch. She's like, I'm going to pick that corner. You're like, pick that one. Mr. Tye, he picked that corner. She cut that motherfucker up. Then that when I was on my pork shit, they used to have the saucy one, the little square motherfuck over.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, with a little round little sausages in it. What? We used to have the square pieces that take up the whole middle of the tray, bro. Yep. I fucked around. I was buying meat extra slice before.
Starting point is 00:52:40 It was a dollar. It was a dollar. That's what pizza the slice used to be a dollar. Yeah, that's what it had extra pieces. It was the flex to be in line and tell the lunch later, I'm buying another. Like it's a section.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Like it's a section. Who are all buying extra pizza? Yeah. She mad at her and she don't want to cook. Big bank, he putting out a big bag for that pizza. Then you get out to that. Did that? You get to the end of the line where you got to give them your lunch number.
Starting point is 00:53:12 The lady got a check to make sure you ain't... Hold on, how many of you got? You ain't like, man. I got a dollar. With the token. I got a dollar. I'm paying for this. I'm paying for this.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I used to pay for lunch, bro. I fought around and put in the number and it went through. And just start using that big? And I just start using that bit. That bed worked for like five six years straight, man. I'm like, bet. I'm talking about, I think I pay for luck. Every year until, like,
Starting point is 00:53:40 Nine grade. I just put in some shit. I think it was just a one. Mine was like two. It was like three, nine, four, eight, something, zero. She was like, two-fifty, Mr. Fitzfield. I'm like, uh-huh. I put that three, nine, four, eight, two, one, one.
Starting point is 00:53:55 She was like, all right. All right. I'm like, I'm going to hold on. I'm going to hold on. I ain't no money on account. You're like, man, no money in your account. You're like, man, my name of your account. You're like, man, all right.
Starting point is 00:54:08 With you, that bitch, every day. $2.50, save with that. Two, stacking them. Stacking them. Those four were getting $10. Hold on, look. It's $2.50 for lunch and $1.50 for brother. You should have got that shit reduced.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Oh, yeah. Reduce lunch, be like $30. Yeah, I was about to say. That's what's up, bro. They got your kids. They got your school. Pairing taxes on the school lunch. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:33 That's crazy. That's crazy on the free lunch. Come on, bro. Breakfast would be like 15 cents. Yeah. My dad is. sometimes that would be the only time I would see my dad when he would come up there and pay for my lunch teaching kids the hard way about credit I know you
Starting point is 00:54:45 can't have no breakfast you owe the school $2 and 50 we finished to spend your account your mother has to send five dollars up here for you to eat you don't deny this child food for $5 man they send their letter home get you cussed out yeah talking about why you got these people in my business Then deny that child food for $2.50 down. Your mama, man, she ain't got the money. She's just talking shit back to the people. When you get to that school, you tell them, folks, I don't got no damn money.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I don't want to eat. Take you a banana or something. Ain't nothing like taking that. You got out-school program. You eat free at school program. Yeah. That's my mama. I'm a school program, beach.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I know. Ain't no after-school program. We live in the country. Oh, yeah, it's right. Take y'all at home. Boy, huh? No after school program? But take your ass'all home, boy, I'll see you tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:55:43 That's crazy. You can walk, bud, you're closer enough to walk. That's crazy. Talking about you in the kindergarten. I get a fuck, man. Walk your head down at that day road, man. This is crazy. Run, nigga, run.
Starting point is 00:56:00 No, we'd have been done without an after school program. Yeah, for sure. We'd have been done without it. Yeah, I need a. Yeah, I'm glad. I could not have been in my neighborhood during the days of me being in the school and out-school program, Mom.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Because the days that I was when I didn't, I got turned. So imagine the shit I would, I see why once I got like eighth, ninth, 10th, I'm like, everything I saw because I want to see. You see what I'm saying? Even though it was right outside my door stuff,
Starting point is 00:56:30 it was like I saw that. I'm like, oh, that's why my mom ain't want me from this time, from this time, because this was going, this was going on. But I'm in the same grade now. I know what's going on. But I realized why you didn't want me home early. You kept me over here.
Starting point is 00:56:45 You kept me over here. Like, supervised? I want them kids. I always had to watch me. Yeah. Got to watch me. Who's going to watch Judge Judge? But somebody didn't hear the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I want to do this shit. I need a shaperone. I came from the house kids. generation. Oh, yeah. Better not lose that motherfucker. You moved your house key. That was the worst day.
Starting point is 00:57:13 So now you're just outside. Yep. You go get your ass on. For sure. Yeah. Because now they're scared. They think a burglar going to call because they key out there in the world.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Everybody got a key in the house. And they know exactly. Somebody going to come in him. And they're going to take it for everything. That's the craziest part. You dumb motherfucker. That's the greatest part. Somebody got a key to this house.
Starting point is 00:57:37 They don't know what house this is. I'm just trying to get. Can we just cut me another key, please? I don't want to do the lecture. I get it. See, it wasn't that. It wasn't that. You also got to understand.
Starting point is 00:57:45 This is our responsibility. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know what a damn responsibility. Absolutely. You don't put the big-hand world on that. We don't have a responsibility.
Starting point is 00:57:55 We need to tip and worry about not shit on ourself. That's the only thing we got to be responsible about. And you got me walking around with a house key on a two-string around my neck. It'd be tired, too. You ain't even died, right. Now that I think about it, we gave burglars way too much credit.
Starting point is 00:58:13 We gave burglars way. We gave burglars way too much credit. Awesome. Like, they're just going to find the house kids. Ms. Johnson got us fucked up. We know that key anywhere.
Starting point is 00:58:30 That's 12-35 cherry-lady. You know, back there they had everything on the kids. Hold on, hold on, hold on, red, ribs, skinning points, skinning point. Oh, these bitch, I'm in the house. I know that, I know that anyway. This is crazy, bro. This is absolutely crazy that we had to worry about this as a kids with his kids.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I had a kid in the fifth grade, but I could only go home with my nephew. Like, I couldn't be, like, my mama knew me. She knew, like, if he did by himself or if he anywhere by himself. He ain't got nobody. to tell him stop. He's going to do it. Absolutely. And my little nephew,
Starting point is 00:59:09 they're going to tell me to stop. I would, I'm tricking him. I'm tricking the hell out of them. Those people will believe anything they got to say when I go home to school. Hey, boy, say now, boy, you ain't going to believe it? They're like, what?
Starting point is 00:59:20 I'm like, boy, shit this out. I got it to him with the principal. They're like, for real. I'm just lying the whole time. I'll get all over to the end. They're like, man, you're going to lie to kid, man. I'm like, why do y'all keep believing? It's like the 30th story, y'all know.
Starting point is 00:59:37 They don't have no reason not to. They always believe me, bro. This is it. They should have just known at this point. I think they just love the stories. But I felt like they were my first, like, audience I was performing in front of them. Yeah. Because I was trying to feel, I would try to outdo each story.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I mean, I think one time I had done to tell him, I started a food fight. I was like, nigga, we was in the cafeteria. When I came home, I was like, hey, y'all, I mean, go downstairs, I got something to tell y'all. They like, what? I'm like, you ain't going to believe what happened today. They're like, what? But your uncle, boy, I don't play.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I don't fucking play at all. I get three on, so I got to tap all three of them. I don't play. On plate. They're like, what happened, huh? He don't play. I'm like, look, nigg. He was in the cafeteria.
Starting point is 01:00:23 We was all chilling. Everybody was in their bitch chilling. And I'm in the principal walked through. Everybody acts like they want to eat their food. You know, I don't fuck with pepperoni. Get what I do I just toast that bitch They're like
Starting point is 01:00:40 Where'd go up He ain't gonna believe it Hit the principal Dead and the feet He looked up The piece all on He's like I can't believe
Starting point is 01:00:52 Everybody They're looking They're looking I'm sitting there I got a little Pisa Oh that one He didn't hit
Starting point is 01:01:03 The sister Brooklyn's face I was that lying. They're like, what happened? I'm like, everybody just started throwing food, niggins, she was crazy. Nigger, my mom had to come to train my clothes.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I ain't wear this today. I ain't wear this, nigga, I'll change clothes. I got the food fight. I'm like, yeah, nigga. Get down to the end because I couldn't think of no more shit. I just went, I was that bad.
Starting point is 01:01:24 They're like, nigga, for real. I was like, why y'all keep believing me, bro? The craziest part is you went from telling the story about telling the story to your nephews and tell them you or you put me in the audience just now. Then you said, guess what happened next? I almost asked, like what? What happened?
Starting point is 01:01:38 I almost asked. That shit sounds like some shit you would do. Yeah, the shit, the shit, the shit I almost asked. Like, what? What happened? I never thought no motherfucker piece of dick. Are you crazy? I would eat that.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Not throwing those pizza? That's how you think of me, nigga? You think I'm crazy? Yeah. Diggily, yeah, dog. Brother's a desire to laugh. But that shit be crazy. What's your social media, man.
Starting point is 01:02:03 let them know how they can get in touch with John. Johnny Gold, J-O-N-N-Y-G-O-D, Johnny Gold. Yep. Very like that. At Corriga Bailey, K-A-R-E-G-A, B-A-I-L-E-Y. And if you find yourself in Oakland on last Tuesday of the month or Sacramento last Monday the month, at the Men's Wellness Fellowship. So that's the group that I co-founder, man.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And we do something just like this. but picture like a hundred and something plus brothers in the building We got a DJ We got cater food And we got conversations That like Just help us leave better than we came
Starting point is 01:02:40 You did what I'm saying Whether that's game Whether you're looking for advice You have an idea That you want to bring to life Whether the nigga Life is just going in the direction You just need a good word
Starting point is 01:02:50 Right We've been doing this for three years now So shout out to the man's wellness fellowship So yeah man tap in with us Sometimes men just need to get together and laugh That shit is healing I can do this Sure.
Starting point is 01:03:02 A good for a story. You ever notice when old niggas get together just who could tell the best life? Maybe lying like a motherfucker. I ate 18 pieces of cat bed last weekend. You're no damn way. You ain't no 18 pieces. Look at that. Look at the fuck I did.
Starting point is 01:03:17 You ain't, you can't tell me. Eighteen pieces. I had four pieces at my sister's out. All right. I went home and I ate five pieces. Uh-huh. That's nine. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:03:29 My brother had made some. Uh-huh. That's 13. Uh-huh. I didn't even tell you about, shut the fuck up. Just like that. Just like that.
Starting point is 01:03:38 That's just like that. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? This exactly. Real shit. I know. Hey, you know, on the real, though, look, I got this crazy idea.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I know, I know y'all be working. Y'all be on the road. Y'all be on a, y'all go. But we got to align it, man. They really get you out to pull up. Any one of you, whoever schedule,
Starting point is 01:03:57 pull up to the men's wellness fellowship. Here's the thing. We did a lot, bro. We don't have medical doctors. What up to a hundred? Men, well, this is... This is... I help niggas all the time.
Starting point is 01:04:06 I want this nigga to car, too. This is what I haven't ever got the other. That's what I want to go. Him. No, because look, bro, we don't have medical doctors, right? We don't have artists. Shout out to D. Smoke pulled up on us. Shout to, like, Rob, pulled up on us.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I think the next part of this wellness exploration that I'm just exploring is, bro, is like, the need for joy, the need for laughter, right? The need for, yeah, just that joy and laughter part got to be sustainable, you know what I'm saying? I'm eating four cooches a week. What I do? I'm eating four different ones as well. You got a skimbaed, baby.
Starting point is 01:04:55 That's crazy. You're doubling up. What you doing? Don't work. I'm eating four kudges a week. Oh, geez. Plural. Plural.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Now, I'm gonna tell you about the highlight of his life. It sounded like some shit that'd be on, like, them TV ones, like, behind the music type of shit. At this point, I mean, I was eating by four cushions. It's the intervention. It's the intervention for him. At this point. At this point, it was real bad.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I'm eating four cooches a week, though. My four cooosies is a week, that point. It was going crazy. Just spiraling out of control. Just spiraled out of control. That's what I started. That's what I started to fit. I wouldn't consider myself a freak.
Starting point is 01:05:42 But I get a head. I'm going to heat them kudge. I'll be deaf. Look at it. Look at it. Look at you. Give a head. Wonderful.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I just give you a head. That's great, that's great, that's great. Don't think men to get here. You get, you get, you go to get a good. That's all you can do with. You got to get the head. No, no. See, no, no, no, see, see, see, see.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Uh-uh. See, see, see, see, see, this is a, see, see. See, this is, see, see. Oh, no. No, no, oh shit. Hey, but at my lowest. At my lowest. I was eating my focus
Starting point is 01:06:32 I was eating my focus A day or a week Fokos a week Okay, you slow down then Ah Exte in a month 60 a month 16 a month
Starting point is 01:06:45 16 a month This is a This is sad Their plur They're pluron And they're pluron You just picks them up Up and up
Starting point is 01:06:55 Hey man You order them to go I'm saying the shit all night man Y'all know exactly what we're at, man. Y'all let this be the last time y'all stop through the 85th time show. And now, we're pulling up for real, man. 85 stop show. All we're talking to is ghetto legends, man.
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