The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Kawan Prather in the trap! With Karlous Miller

Episode Date: August 27, 2021

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Oh, shit. Hey, man. Everybody on this list, good in the motherfucker. Pink? Pink, she's good as well. Man, pink good than the motherfucker. Yeah. Niggia, you don't work with so many people.

This shit just say, various artists. Just like everybody came through. And then you're going to ask me why we want you on here. We could just ask you about one song, and there'll be an old episode. Big boy Bow Wow This ain't gonna work with Big Boy and Outcast

That was two different times The Dungeon family That's like 75 people If you really know Atlanta That's Outcast Future TLC

Usher Rinko Wade Basically if you ever recorded a hit song In Atlanta you had to be round 6. Somebody in the Dungeon family. You know how they had that thing where it was like,

everybody in the last 15 NBA Finals and been Shaq teammate. Nigger, every piece of good shit that they ever came out of Atlanta, somebody from the Dungeon family, was over there. Yeah, that's real shit, actually. That's real shit.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think we ground this shit, man. We're from it, so it's... It feels different. Man, I'm just looking. looking at the list. This ain't even, the list cut off. It's still 10 years of shit that you've done that don't know. Even the internet was like, man, ask him. So catch it from after 2011, man, tell me some more shit. Man, um, shit. Went to Atlantic. Um, see how normal this shit is

to you. It's like, you switch jobs. Went to Atlantic. Uh, we do at Atlantic. We, we do at Atlantic. a lot of records over there. It's one of the biggest record companies in the world. And reconnected with Pharrell over there like that, me and him. When did you connect with him? You're just going to start the story when y'all reconnected. Wait a minute.

Welcome back to the 85-7 show. You see the shorts on the table. You see the hoodies. Be great. This is one of the greatest. I'm looking at a list of all your favorite songs and you didn't even know the K.P. has something to do with it. Welcome to

the trap of K.P. Hey, man. Come on, man. We're not even worth it. We didn't have a lot of Atlanta legends come through here and don't act like you ain't one of them. You'd be downplaying all this shit, but you've got to come over here and give us your version

of the pieces of Atlanta history that you'd have been a part of. Look at this list. Do you remember this shit? Yeah, all that. All right. And then you got to tell me about the shit that ain't on it. like let me see um so you said you reconnected with real for real how did you connect with

them how did you start all of this um clearly it was around 1990 now this shit hit in 96 so you had to be doing it about 93 at least so no 90 90 having to go to school with the tri-city

where like outcast see what I'm saying you even went to a historical Atlanta high school okay yeah DC went over there for a minute that's the one he got threw out of him, I think. So here's the thing. So I did a bunch of that. Like, I went to

Mays. They asked me to leave. I know for a fact that he went to Mays. Yeah. Okay. They're strict. They don't want everybody here. So, I went to Lake Show. I did a tour. I went to all the high schools. Okay. And in doing that, I met a bunch of people. Okay. I graduated from Tri-City, which is where Outcast, both of them went. Candy, Keenan from Saturday Live. It's like a bunch of people went in this

time period. Exactly. And all of us were working. We all knew we wanted to do shit. It was like talent show kids. And yeah, and we started working. And at that time, LA and Babyface and Pebbles moved to Atlanta. Like, they met T-Bos, who was a friend of mine

who went to, she was, TLC, I'm sorry, T-Boss from TLC. Right. She was my homeboy who was in a group with me, his brother's girlfriend. So it was like all these weird, everybody was just randomly connected. Right. And then, you know, and they got a deal.

And on one of their video shoots, they were doing an audition for the video, baby, baby, baby. And Tion was like, yo, y'all should come down, bring the group, y'all see if y'all can, we can slide. I'm going to figure out how to get y'all. If I can slide y'all in and get Pebbles to see y'all. And I brought about some turntables. We set up. And Pebble was like, well, if I'm a, if I'm going to watch you, what are you going to do for me? And I was like, yeah, like, that's I felt.

And she was like, you know, like, I'm here auditioning. I need people for a video. Like, if you'll be in video, then, yeah, I'll watch you. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'll take one for the team. I ain't know what I meant, so it wasn't like a thing yet. And so anyway, she was like, you're going to be Chili's boyfriend in the video. Yeah, okay. And that's how it's, and so from then.

Who don't want that job? Yeah, right. I was like, I did. Cool. So that, and that's how I started. Like, we got pulled in, Pebbles, brought me in. and it kind of opened up the back door so I could see, like, how shit worked.

Like, the first time I ever met with, she had me come down to a video set, like, an editing bay where she was editing, like, a TLC video and, like, explaining to me why certain shit was happening. So I was, like, you know, I was always intrigued by that part. And eventually, she was like, you know what? You really do have an interest and a knack for it to understand me because you speak both sides.

Like, you ain't really tripping, like, on people who work at the record company, like thinking you gotta be a different kind of way but you also delivering the message you know in a way that it's understood so yeah she was like you should you should be with LA like you should work with LA so she's the person who put me on with LA who brought me in a start doing ANR so that's how I got in as an executive man that you just been turning that shit up every look at this shit somebody finding the other years can't find the the years, man.

Tony Braxton, bro. You worked on one of the biggest songs of our generation. Well, that was,

I mean, like, the hard part about taking credit for shit like that is like she was already Tony Braxton.

Exactly, but you came when that happened. Yeah, okay, yeah, so, yeah, yeah,

yeah, that's one of the biggest songs. But I was able to, like, just connect some shit. Like, my homeboy Bryce,

who was in this group Groove Theory was like They dope as hell as fuck. So, He's producing and Babyface, like I'm at LaFace or I'm connected to Babyface. So I'm like, man, it'll be hard if Babyface wrote over one of your tracks, like one of them hard-ass records.

And he wrote, you're making me hot for that. Would you see how you tell the shit so normal? Man, this is fucking crazy. You know how good you have to be at music for Babyface to even talk to you? Well, no, actually, you know. got to not be scared of baby face. But I'm saying, like, then when you're not scared of him, you have to really deliver some good shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's baby face. Yeah, he writes song, like, yeah. The end of the road. Sing that, it's over. Yeah, can we talk? You can't even name all the shit, that baby face. No, you can't. So that's why the shit, like, well, I can't trip,

because I know baby face. I see him, like, the niggas I know are, like, really, like. Bro, if he comes to the trap, we're shutting this bitch down. We're not even going to record, nothing else in here. They got to move. We've got on a new location, bro. Yeah, y'all actually might want to just go to his house or some shit. Bro, no, because then we're not going to want to go back to our house.

His shit way nice, too nice. I wouldn't even feel nice enough to go over Babyface's house. No, man. Those where you're at? I ain't coming. It's Babyface, man. I'm not coming. Hey, man. Babyface's cool. I believe you that, man. Like, you know, they're from, like, Ohio.

Okay. Like, they're some dudes, man. Like, they're really cool as hell. Who is they? Is Babyface in some movies? Yeah, like, LA, L and Bayfaces. Oh, okay. I thought you, I thought when you met Babyface,

you had to meet, like, a group. Like, hey, we are a baby face. Yeah, exactly. That's how you made the show. Like, it's a group. Like, it's a group of things. Yeah, that's cool, man. Like, Brune on Oz.

Yeah, yeah. I like it. It's a group. You fuck with Bruno Mars, man That name, him and Anderson Pack, they got some Yeah, that shit Like, like, on his thing, I love Anderson Park Anderson, his shit is dope, dope

Yeah I rock with Bruno, he's a great, he's a great entertaining. And I feel like he is the perfect mix Of everybody. He is, man, and that's what it is. It's like he's a, he's like a, he's like a He's every nationality, he can be anybody.

And he's it, like he just, he fit everywhere, bro, bro. He could be at a Floyd Mayweather fight. He could be at the Manning Pachial birthday party. Playboy Mansion. The Playboy Mansion. The Soul Train Award, the Super Bowl. Bruno Mars.

He could show up a Gucci Man spot. He can be with Gucci Man. A Gucci Man and a Bruno Mars? That's a hit. But they got one. They got one. High. Exactly.

Goochie Man and Bruno Mars. Wow. They need a whole album. Actually, I just want Bruno to do. He should do like an album with everybody he liked. He should. I think he should do one song with everybody in the industry. He's multicultural like that.

Yeah, I get it. Don't worry about that. That just means the chicken ribs. Oh, shit, what we got? I don't know what the fuck that man. What happened? The light died or something shit. Whatever.

It's a sign, though, that we're on the right path. Bruno Mars can do music with anybody. Light bulb. Idea, I get it. And man, what type of advice do you give people when they ask you about the music industry? It's clearly you've seen it go from actual physical, hard copies to a digital age. And, you know, it's only a few people that have really broke through on the digital age. Man, and this ain't because of the shirt, but it's like, really, it's like, be great.

Like, I would normally used to say be dope. Just be dope. Like, that shit will cut through and get you to have the opportunity to learn all the things. other shit. Right. But have something that nobody else can do. Like, if you can fuck around and do something that... Some intangible shit. Intangible shit. And I'm like, and nobody can tell you, nobody can tell you

what that is. No. So it's like, but you got to be the best version of yourself. Like, you got to be cool enough with yourself to, like, receive that shit. Like, that's why people, that's why tip, is tip. Because he really is, that's just who he is. So every message or everything that comes through is, it's unadulterated, because it's like he

ain't putting shit on it. keep that shit real that's the first step to be in great yeah yeah man and you gotta be able to tune out criticism

yeah that shit man listen if you if you ask for some advice listen to it filter it out to see what work for what you're trying to do right

some of it might some other ain't some people don't know how to listen to advice ah you gotta like sometimes the whole advice

might not work no sometimes the whole advice be too big for your situation you just gotta take the part yeah like Like, this part worked.

I ain't fucking with that yet. But later on, you've got to remember the whole shit, but you can only apply this shit that work for you. But that's the part. Like, okay, and be aware of your, like, self-awareness, bro. In the moment. Yeah, you got to be aware all the time. Like, if you want to do this,

because you're in a world of creative people. It's people making up shit all the time. Exactly. And you've got to figure out how to ride this wave of creativity, but remain real in it, right? and that shit was a whole other level of awareness I just assume like if you're surfing like the awareness you have with the water

you gotta have that kind of that level of concentration and awareness riding this shit don't you hate this shit when you had in the caprisa and straw won't come out yeah because they know you can do to make your thing cool you got to get some scissors like somebody there you go

shit I hate that that's the most uncool shit you can do on this show but I always drink some drink some kind of, you know, juice, one the ninks start saying real shit. Yeah, you didn't give up. I never will. That's part of my perseverance. Yep.

Put that on my, on the wall by my name. Perseverance. Never give up. Never gave up. Got it out the mud. Where's the mud, by the way? Shit, I'm from Mississippi. The mud is everywhere.

Everywhere. Shit, my driveway. Hey, man. That's the deep air reads. Marvin. Gay? Yeah, he's the one. Check this out. We got the same birthday. Oh, shit.

It's right here. He's my official unofficial co-host. That's what's up. We take Marvin Gay everywhere, bro. You should. He's up. Hell yeah. What kind of shit you think you and Marvin Gay would have got into in the studio?

Musically. Arguments. Oh. Probably. No, definitely. Only just arguments. I mean, because I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know the Aries do well together in that kind of space. Who you argue with the most in the studio? All these greats.

Argue at the most? Yeah. Tilt. But I don't argue. We don't argue. But debates are like, they're like intense. Just about random shit.

Anything. Anything. Like, just cause. Like, just cause. That's just how, that's part of the creativity. It is. But, you know, it's the reason why he can write. write a T.I. versus TIP.

Because he really is, he's arguing with you to hear the whole part. Like, what's your whole point to have an understanding? Like, I've never seen nobody argue as much as much as him. But he does it with, he actually listens to the other part. Like, I think most people would be arguing just to hear themselves,

be loud. He's really trying to get, like, a real, like a convicted. He's argumentative, though. Absolutely. Who's second, then? Because I figured it would be him. Really?

Put a list of shit out. That's all we got for now. I mean, we mean no disrespect because we know you did a lot of shit. That's all the internet allow us to happen. You know, times are hard. They're cutting back on everything, even information.

They get brought it back down to 3G. I'm telling you, when we got to the second page, they were like, ask him. That's what it said on the bottom. I'm sorry. so listen oh you know what because we've known each other

along it's probably outcast and I outcast the both of them but me and big boy for real yeah so you've been all like in the creative process with them bro they probably got some great shit

that the world never heard absolutely like there's an version like Seelow singing happy it's crazy Silo Green Singing happy

If that don't never come out We should just invite Silo to karaoke Just in the world Do you understand How much the world need to hear that? Yeah It's fun

As it's great too That song already And sold like 12 billion copies They should at least leak that No All right No We can't redo it

And say I'm in a good mood Or Nothing is I'm pleasant I'm feeling decent Decent Decent as hell That's the best

They're going to let a nigger feel Because we decent That's about right Don't want to be happy Because they'll shut the whole shit down For real Niggers be decent Shit

That's What? We should do it. Decent. Decent. Hey, man, ain't nobody got that one? Come on,

you the A&R. Make that, what to call him? I'll call Celo. I know he'll be with the shit. He'll do it. I'm going to call the son first and then have your son tell him.

And what you should do is have him do it at your show. Decent. Let him do it live like Eric Badoo did Tyrone. What if we fucking record this shit in the song hard than the motherfucker? Then he sent the bill and that one won't be able to come out either. Damn.

I mean, sure. All right, man. I appreciate John Flirvin. Yeah. Oh, man. Delete that shit.

Delete all that. No, I think you good. I think you good. Like, you understand? Y'all, like, y'all are, like, a big part of the culture. We ain't even know it yet. Yeah.

See, we're still playing catch up. See, we're still putting the whole history of the culture together. Okay. So that's why we had to bring you. Okay. Because there's so much shit you've been a part of in Atlanta in the world

that had an impact on the culture so once we catch up with all right this these are the people who was like this the culture that we were seeing before we was a part of it right okay look at how much of my favorite shit you didn't put on this list so I got this platform

I got to invite you and ask you how how man you know what just being open to it like that's it man like the real of this I've never put that much on it because I recognize how much goes into it

like how many people like it takes to make some shit like work for real that's why this that's exactly what I'm saying yeah so it's like my awareness for that makes it like not that it makes it to where I just want to keep doing shit

if I see somebody doing some dope and I can help or assist if I can put somebody together if I can whatever I can do to kind of amplify or put an amp on that like that's what I feel like I'm supposed to do. But that's on some DJ shit too because it's like that muscle of being able to

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So this is weird, right? So this is probably like the most hip-hop-ass story, like, ever. So when I was like 11, 10, 11, I used to go to the airport at Atlanta at Hartsfield. They used to have the shit where you can take those little carts. And when you return them from people leaving them, it would give you $0.25. So I used to go, we would go find all the carts, take them, get the money. They had a game room in the airport, like an arcade.

So me and my cousin would go in and do this shit and play video games for like an hour. I'm playing video games one day, and this dude walks up, I'm playing this kung fu game. It was like a two-player jump. And dude was like, yeah, surety, can I play this game? with you and I'm like you know some weird or shit like you know not like why and um so he's like I mean no no it's just you know it's my game it's my game and I looked up and he had a necklace on and it had like Chinese lettering so I was like oh that's interesting so we're playing and I was like what does that say and then he was like it was LL Cool J and I'm like what's that

mean and he was like ladies love Cool J I was like but I this is like again 10 11 this ain't like I don't know yet. So, but, like, this is, like, hip hop is starting, like, to branch out. So I'm in the airport, and he's talking to me, and I'm like, he starts breaking down, and he travels the world. He's in Atlanta doing a show, and he has this song, radio. No, I need a beat. And I was like, oh, I know that shit.

And then I'm like, so wait a minute, so what you're doing here? And he's telling me all this shit, like, I travel the world, you know, you know, and he's L.L. Coojay talking. So I'm like, a kid, like, oh, wow, it's like some mean, Joe Green shit. And he's like, yo, won't you come back? And I don't, and it sounds weird saying the story now, but he's like, won't you come back and submit my people. And I'm like, I tell my cousin, let's go.

And it's before TSA, so you can go wherever in the airport. So we go back to their gate. And it's him, it's like the Beastie Boys. It's like, it's like Def Jam. And he's telling me shit. And he introduces me to Cut Creator. And he's like, he's the DJ. And he's like, I'm like, so what you do?

Because he seemed like the most. chill person there like he was like you know like the Beastie boys were like sprawled out in the airport it was like

it was some rap shit but he seemed like cool and aware of shit he was like well you know I keep the shit going and that

go fast for it I go home I tell my mom for Christmas I want turntables and she gets me turntables and that's how I started

man that's the craziest shit I have ever heard bro a lot of people then came through here and told a lot of stories there ain't nobody told no fucking L.L. Cool J story.

So you're just a kid, minding your business with a pocket full of quarters. Relocating airport buggies. L.L. Cool J. like, yo, little man. What type of fucking Coca-Cola commercial shit is this? He didn't told an 11-year-old kid, yo, shit, I'm a rapper. I travel. Yo, come meet my people. Those are the Beastie Boys.

Excuse me, they drunk, young man. Make better decisions in your life. Don't be drunk at an airport. My man Cutt Created right here. Like, he's the father figure of the group. You see how he's the red. What the fuck, man? And then as he was leaving, he took off his cane going and was like,

Hey, little man. Catch. Now, keep in mind, this was the 80s. So he went home. Like, yo, moms, I was in the airport today, cold chilling. L. L. L. L.J. pours up on me. Where's my mother? I'm sorry, you're my mother.

Listen. So, he wants me to, yo, he totally wants me to go sign with them, chair. I was like, L.L., no disrespect to my man's, but I'm 11. He's like, yo, Shorty. We got tutors on the bus. You ever heard of these kids? Yo, look at his dope janey gave me, mom. I'm really part of the crew.

You're killing. So I ran away at 11 and went on tour with Def Jam. I didn't and Jermaine did. Exactly. See? Yeah. It could have been you and Jermaine. Yeah, straight up. Damn it.

Man, that is some of the doperest shit I have ever heard. No, the best part of it for me is like, so I had this a radio shack walkman. And then they asked me, could he buy it? And I had bought it. I had paid like $10 for it. Look, look, listen, I paid about $10, $12 for it. My mom did. I sold it to him for 40.

Bro, what type? L.L. Cool J. You remember this shit? Come up here and tell us what happened. It was really L.L. Cool, Jay. And that nigga bought your walkman at the Atlanta airport. At 11. I had $40.

That was like $400 plus about $7.00 of quarters I had. Like, nigga, I was so good. I bet you came home like, Mom, you can quit your job. We made it. This airport shit is looped. I got this. Watch. Watch.

Yeah. Yeah. You can't be a black kid and come home with $40. Your grandma going to break down crying. Oh, my grandson is in the new street. Yep. He came home with a pocket full of money. Quarters, no less.

Oh, man. Man, that's the wildest shit, though. Shout out to L.L. Cooja. Without that interaction, none of this shit would have happened. Yeah. All they take is that. Be that little piece of fucking... Yeah, the want to go play some fucking video games.

Just how good of a DJ Cut Creator was, bro. You didn't even see him DJ. Not one fucking time. You didn't even see him around the fucking music. But let me tell you what happened on it, but let me tell you what I did, like, about three months after that, that fucking, what's my DJ's name? Cut creator. I heard

that goddamn song like, I know this nigga. Like, what? Like... Bro, until you're told this... Like, I bet every time you have told that story it was unbelievable until this point and time. Now people on the internet are going to be like

yo, I worked at the Atlanta airport back then. He is not lying. Somebody no. I'm saying I was up that bitch every weekend, bro. Like, just taking them fucking buggies back. Damn. You probably made the first hundred thousand

in quarters. I had definitely... That's one of the business airports in the world. I'm sure it was cars everywhere. Listen, I feel like they stopped letting you get the quarters because of us. Like, they don't do that shit no more. Like, you can't go get no refund now.

Like, man. Like, we caked up. That's crazy, though. Damn. Do you ever run into L.L. Cool J again? I did. Did you tell them that story? I did.

Did he remember it? No. He was like, I remember. Like, he did, you know what I'm saying? Atlanta? I don't know. Okay, okay. Because he probably was doing shit.

Like, like buying little niggas, like, like a walkman, like, radio shack ass. Yeah. Young niggas don't know I'm doing never, favor. They'll meet that shit in me. And you know what's crazy? Today, L.L. is plenty of seed. Today I bought this little hat from the dude that, the water boy dude.

They got these hats. Waterboys in the hood. I got it in the car now. Like, you got to support. You got to pay it forward. Okay. Wait until that one day they catch you with no money and they stun on you. You think them water boys out there struggling?

No, no, no, no. I didn't say it. I broke your head, but no worry about it. They didn't get any more, no water, boy, choke a heart. Here you're talking about it. Yeah. Hey, man. I respect the hustle.

It's fine. They'll keep it real with you, though. They caught me. I ain't had no care. They're like, I wish you right on money. Go ahead, bro. We just for with you on the show. They're real, right?

Some of them... Like, they're grown. Some of them niggas, that's what I'm saying. Some of them niggas is grown men because the nigger had me shaving on their neck. Hey, man, they definitely got like... They had the shave bumps and shit.

I'm like, where out of you? Bro, I keep shut up. Brohead. They're like green, bro. Like green. Like green. Like green, bro. Go ahead.

You're asking way too much. Go ahead, bro. Yeah, and they gave me grown man eye contact. Like, look. Oh, no, cool. All right. Let me get with them hats. Man, them they can take that shit serious, too.

They need you just let them post up, because I hit through the nigga $5 a one time. I was like, bro, you keep the water. They're like, man, drink this damn water, bray. I didn't have, like, just drop them on the seat. I was like, I give, bro. They care. They give them, they give them for you.

That's how you. They got a name. They build the brand, like, that shit that made it out of Atlanta. Like, like, detect. the myth of like like this mythology in LA like just like Dallas Austin like everything in the world that then happened he was right there

yeah you work with Dallas Austin yeah how you run into Dallas Austin well Dallas used to live in college park so it's like skating rink like everywhere that niggas was at Dallas was there right like but he was see and that's what I was saying

like he'd be everywhere that niggas be at yeah yeah I mean Because he's for me and too, like, I think that might be the Atlanta superpower, like, the ability to be comfortable wherever you're at. Like, you get there, you're like, all right, I ain't going to disrespect nobody. I'm not going to allow nobody disrespect me. It's going to be fine. And you just enjoy it. Like, we don't really go out of town and cause a problem.

You don't hear about Atlanta niggas going somewhere and causing an uproar. Just don't happen. Man, that might be the coldest shit you said, though, man. I hope all the niggas in all the other cities just peep the message. Man, learn how to fucking act. So much great shit can happen when niggins start acting right. That's it. Act right.

Look, act right, man. I guess that's just the down south shit, too, man. We're a little... I mean, we're crazy in our own right, but at least we, you know, it's a certain level of respect that's given before it's just disrespect. Yeah. And it's actually used it, it's whatever energy you bring is going to get met. more than

yeah it ain't even disrespect at that point it's usually like self-defense right you know what I'm saying and the element of surprise too

that'll do it every time you know sometimes you might be arguing with one motherfucker and then a hundred motherfucking turned around and you're like

all y'all with him yeah no I was just saying really that ain't true me hopped at a nigga you feel like hey man listen

I say it like it's a it was this club 559 legendary comedy spot too absolutely okay so this

okay I mentioned like and 559 comedy shit I'm doing it's a project next door called Harris Home Come on Okay so Knicks from Harris Home

would come To 559 The dude Amateur Night They're not really Comedy? Yeah Like they just come

Like at the bar So it's just regular hood Niggas And they would come Who funny You know how Like you should do that shit Them niggas

Like a gang of them Yeah And they would just come do it And so like They're up there They're not necessarily funny Except for the To the nigs who came with them

because they know the joke. Like, you know, a big-haired niggins. You know what I'm saying? And they're talking about somebody specific. Right. So it's killing these niggas. Them three, the nigger roller. But, so this particular night, it's two dudes from New York.

And it's 90s. It's like early 90s. Now, 94-ish, 95. Vasashi might have been just kicking off. Okay. So, like, short sets and Cartier. So they, it's some New York dudes there and there. They're frustrated by not understanding.

jokes. So one of them stands up and like, yo man, get the fuck off the stage. It like goes, you know, he went here. And dude on the stage said, hey, buddy, hold on, hello, hey, where are you from, y'all? He said, the boogie down. He said, oh, okay.

So geographically, you're not really thinking this through. He was like, huh? And he said, see, because the way I see it is if some shit go down in the next five minutes, you got to called New York. I got to call the bar. And

at this moment, he was like, what? He was about to wolf back. His partner jumped up and knocked him clean out. Saved both of them. His own homeboy knocked him the fuck out. Clean, cold. Bro, that story was doing like this, then that bitch went.

That's how so, so the reason why he stood up is because when he said, my folks at the bar, literally old club stood up like yeah it was a save he went in defense mode yeah he was like bro

oh y'all didn't go on with him yeah keep the show going who next from here's home yeah yeah because stand this nigga B he's always fucking saying the wrong shit man no disrespect

no disrespect son I don't know I don't know son by no shit I was supposed to buy something from him you understand so I don't know son

so when you wake up I'm gonna knock him back out if the show ain't over. No disrespect. I'm finished. He said the book, I'm from all of them, son. Yeah, no.

It took a turn for him, man. Damn. That's some crazy shit. Comedy club always got some bullshit going on. If this is going to be a hard, like if they got a good headlining, somebody get knocked the fuck out.

Yeah, I didn't know that. Last show I had in Florida, I knew she was about to get crazy. They was laughing so hard. Lady Leaming. back her whole goddamn wig, fellow. I'm thinking she's fend to, you know, try to scramble and put it on.

She just took the motherfucker off a laser on her chair. She got to put it back on there to make it. This shit. She's laughing hard in the motherfucker, man. Some ladies, she drunk. She mad. She get up, talking shit. She didn't came and sat all on the stage. I'm thinking security about

the cops. So she get up and get back walking around. This black lady just came up and was like, Knocked their ass out They think they was about to throw her out I was like no I don't throw her out They threw the lady who got knocked out So as she get up she's still in the club

Fucking with people How about this shit crazy The white lady get up Slap the shit out of Everybody in the club Chearing like a motherfucker out of I was like I get the fuck out of here man Because if this shit make the news

Yeah You did it It wasn't me It was the crowd That's how Florida get down No whatever Whatever brand of comedy you brought.

Oh, yeah. That's when that shit started happening. It's ass kicking me good. I'm going to switch it up, do some dolphin jokes or something. There's other shit too about it, about it.

Y'all on the road. Y'all out now, right? Come on, man. No, I said. We're out here. Ghetto Legends tour. Yes, sir. You're right, yeah.

Yeah, man. How's been out there? Man, we're taking it one step. better time. Like we've been overdosing a while. Yeah. Yeah. Man, it's been all love. When people missed the hell out of us, man. We went to Biloxia and sold

damn the 8,000 tickets, man. Just out there showing man love to the people who need it. One time for Biloxia. Yeah, exactly. Making came out and show this love. Make him what's up? Hell yeah, we got some cool shit coming over here, man.

We're just working. Okay. Yeah. We got motherfuckers like you coming through here. just dropping game owners, let us know the L.L. Cool J is out here by and walking is in the average. For little kids. But what else strange that doesn't happen in this motherfucker? Man, I don't...

That can't be the wildest shit that didn't happen in the music industry. No, it's probably not. But that's a cold one, though. Yeah, that one applies to me so I can, you know, I don't mind have to tell that story. Damn. That's a hell of a come up, man. That might have just been

destiny for you to fuck with that music then. No, absolutely. I feel like Look, I'm not fighting it. Like, and I think that's the other ones. Like, I ain't fighting no feeling. Like, if I felt it's honest, and that's what I'm rolled with. So I feel like my discernment is in good standing

because I don't really, like, my intent is good. If you do good, good will come to you. Yeah, you're from the South. Real shit. What do you mean? Like, I'm really from the South. I'm talking about, like, Like with that water pump in the front yard.

Yeah. That's the type of South. With that good cold air water in there? Yeah. Yeah. That type of shit. Okay. I'm talking about I'm sold from the South.

Like our dog ain't never came in the house. You feel me? Yeah, that's outside. That dog. Don't bring that dog. I'm talking about soul from the South when you can spend the whole weekend at your grandma's house and don't have no clothes. Mm-hmm.

Yep. It's fine. Turn the things inside out. Exactly. I'm real South, bro. I'm talking about when your girl. when your grandma and your mama they open up all the doors

when they're fried chicken you smell that shit in the whole neighborhood yeah but it don't it don't fuck the house up right you know about that

I'm talking about let your school clothes out yeah and not because you choose it's because it's because this is what you're wearing right right

yeah it's real soft shit it's real south shit yeah like we'll go to bed for real for real take your ass to bed I'm talking about real south where you'd be like

I'm hot and they just be like, be still. Sit down something wild. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. It's the real self-ship. I'm talking about what an ice cream man just pull up

and turn the van off. That's it. One stop. First of all, it's going to, because the person with money it's going to take about ten minutes to come out of the house. One stop. And he ain't playing no ice cream man music.

Straight Gucci. Well, I'm sorry. He's playing Gucci Lemonade. That's the official good ice cream man's out. Let him have my way is in the free cup. Yeah, it's real shit. Damn, I've actually heard that.

Yeah, yeah. Like, I've heard that, like, recent. Yeah, okay. Damn, did they change it? I wonder where the fuck you buy an ice cream truck from. Ice cream truck stole, yeah. You ain't never rode past nowhere, and they had a bunch of ice cream trucks out there for sale.

I mean, when you get a mail truck at? They don't sell mail trucks, do that. I mean, they're not about to let you have a mail truck. Unless you work for them. You got to work at the post office that buy, like, a old mail truck. They're just like an ice cream nicks. I don't know. I think them niggas be making their own decals.

But who put the fridge right there? Some of them don't have it. It'd just be a chain de-freezer in that bitch with a power converter. That's an electrician, too, then. Amen. You do what you got to do. Grift there. that's what it is

that's a hustle though because we ain't never even find out who ice cream men work for where the ice cream came from exactly these motherfuckers might be working for the federal government poisoning and y'all talking about corona and then they always talk about all the shit

that they put in the projects in the ghetto won't nobody investigate where the fuck all their ice cream came from you're thinking about yeah because I'm like I don't know these things like they were all weird urban areas and places that you couldn't get Pisa delivered, and they would show up right at the most violent time.

Like in the middle of football games, like shit. About 6 o'clock when it's almost dark, this nigga pull up. Tingling, ling, ling. You can hear that music. Everybody know what the fuck that music is. Niggins a dope boy. Like, shit, I cream, true. Hey, hey, hey, little man.

Hey, show that. Hey, bring me a baseball glove with the bug on. What you want, a moon pop, a boom bomb, what you want? Yep. And then you remember all that. those, like, propaganda, don't do drugs, movies from the 80s. They'll have kids, like, getting shot, because they

didn't bring the dope boy his change back. Yo, little man, where's my $5? Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, pah, pow, pow! See, kids? Why was he shot? Because he was smoking crack. That's like, what? No, he tried to take that nigga Monday.

We're all of them. If we go back and watch that shit now, they probably destroy it all them. Them little Friday afternoon special shit they used to show us in at school. Man, listen, like, I'm watching, like, they do these, like, commercials from the 80s, and you see how, like, weird shit look now. Like, the people that you bought shit from, like, kids' minds from little pineapple-cut whitewoods.

Like, their hair was, like, and they bangs, like, Justin Bieber. I'm going to fuck you up. Remember that show, Mr. Wizard? Yep. Creepy old white man. Just pick up some random kids, take him to his house and do science experiments. this makes this LL Cool J story way weirder the way that you talk like when you think about it think about it man LL cool J in the airport all these people trying to

yo LL can we get a picture no by the way no it wasn't even he wasn't famous shit this was I need a beat it wasn't videos oh like it wouldn't like this is I don't even it was it like 80 this was real underground hip hop shit yeah it's like I need a beat like this is there's this 88. 89? Yeah early. Like, 86? Yeah, that's a 10-11, yes. Yeah. Yeah, man. So it's like, he was

really just, he was on the come up. He's just a good-hearted dude, I guess. Yeah. He's a little nigga guy hustling. Let anybody buy that walk, man, for over. How much, 40? All, here you go, shorty. Because he had to know this shit was radio shake. It was, like, realistic. It probably said, Radio Shack. They said realistic. Like, that's

Radio Shack brand, whatever. He just probably just really needed one. He might have been listening. What if he was listening to the demo of like the rest of the radio album? He was probably listening to the instrumentals and writing the rhyme. That's what I'm talking about. On your shit.

Now that's a new face type shit. That is. Like that guy, damn new face. That's a new face type shit, man. Like. Yeah, so 84 is. Yeah. Damn.

And you've really been out here in these streets. Yeah, it was 11. So you're so deep in the hip-hop. How do you get in the studio with pink and shit like that? So I started doing... Like you got a broad range of shit. I like music, man. I grew up, like, it wasn't an algorithm.

Put us up on some shit that niggas might not know about, like some outside of the normal shit. What should throw us some shit we can go fucking with? You mean, like, just... basically some white people shit there's some shit you know about that you wish more niggas knew about you know what I don't know if it's not white

and shit but nothing like that but it's Shuggy Otis like it's Shuggy Otis Shuggy Otis? You fuck with it? I know you're, see, I mean he's different Yeah, I mean like the thing It's like a bunch of It's like so much music bro

Like at this point I don't even Like my brain just like shut down When you ask that question Damn Like you're stinger There you go Newface, we've talked them up, that's crazy. Newface is actually here.

Shuggy Otis, I'm gonna look it up. Yeah, I'm, you think, who? See, I'm just in a different place. I'm also, I'm really heavy money bag yo right now. You're fucking money bag. Y'all ain't did not yet? I mean, yeah, I mean, well, he worked with us in, well, he worked with Farrell in the Nepsul's.

Tell me about this shit, man. Tell me about what you and Farrell over there doing. Honestly, man, we're just trying to keep contributing, bro. Like, that's honestly all it is. It's like, the goal is to be able to contribute and learn from, like, everybody. Like, the newer, the newer artists, the catalog arts, the classic, you know, the people we came up with. Right. But, like, making sure that, you know, there's a bridge of information and just the fundamentals get passed on.

If a real came on this bitch, I know this shit will blow up in Japan. Duh. You know what I mean? people that is? A lot. It's billions. Just don't know. He's popular everywhere. He's popular everywhere. Like, half of it was

like a big song. I was just about to ask you, is he going to do another one? He can't do another half. How do you do it? He should do every emotion. I'm down. Got me fucked up. Grab the gad because these nakers don't know

that shit is real. Got me fucking. That'd be hard. Yeah. Put Moneybag Yo on it? Niggins. Huh? Poo shiast?

Burr. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, anything possible, bro. You be playing that shit? You be putting them up on shit, like the new shit. Yeah, but, like, on some real shit, like, I think we all put each other on shit.

Like, he'll hit me with, like, he might have hit me with Money Bagel one morning. Like, yo, you listen to this? I was already up on it, but the fact that he woke up at six and, the morning like you heard this shit like and then that's what happened he actually went on his podcast said how much he like money bag yo money bags people reached out to me and then we were like well yeah let's get them together and yeah then we got two records on that on this new album fuck took you so long to say that man you just saw me pull up in the money carlo you know I'd be listening to money bag yo and that bit I just looked at my reason got

I used that voice when I rap, this is a good voice That's a great voice around here. I don't like niggas, don't like bitches, I don't like nobody I don't backtrack, I don't miss nobody May fuck everybody That nigga cold man

Yeah, man There's a many cold niggins out here But every rapper that's rapping about Some Vining shit is getting life I mean, listen bro Like, especially when they're rapping around it And it feel real Shit, it is

That's the point It'll be on video. Them niggas are going to club Get the fight and shoot that bitch up Drop the coldest song The next day Put the surveillance camera video In their video

They put the news clip 16 people were shot At a local Atlanta nightclub Last night Y'all nigga know what it is Nigger got shot Last night I had something to do with it

Nigg got shot And I had something to do with it It said six things I got something to do with it And I had something to do with it And I had something to do with it Ordered to drink about 12 Bitch he didn't calm

Went to the car Tame my shirt And got my gun Good You got my gun Yeah Your niggins be too detailed Brough

They get on the red shirt They get on the song Make the disc record Not only talk about the shooting But talk about the injuries And where the bullets Hit that niggie bruh Yeah

Your homeboy talking shit But that 12 game hit him in his chin Came down in the breast cavity And hit him in the breast Came out the nipple Hit it back Now ain't parallel Hit him in the eye

He could see I had on a disguise I'm like oh my car It was Mono Reagan Cause I know nigga don't know who that is What? They tell you the kind of bullies That U-223

Hit their car Engine Cut Off What the fuck? tell you a little part of my bed ain't many stuff on his jade what no man like these niggas are too

they good at what they do yeah man but I'm just saying if they just changed the subject matter and made it positive it might even hit harder bro

I'm telling you what if the niggins start rapping about shit that you never expect them to rap about they start rapping about fucking solar systems and hidden planets and shit niggas start rapping about that hidden color shit

it's actually more people who know about that than they are who actually know how to sell crack everybody don't really know how to sell though Nick Craig crack really been out of style yeah that's what I'm saying like it ain't really like the biggest population of people don't do criminal do you understand like crack ain't even like selling crack ain't even a top profession no more

you can make more money as a YouTuber than you can't selling crack you can make more money doing live streams for two hours than you could selling crack for a whole weekend. Yeah. Yeah, it's not fly. If you're doing it, you just ain't, you just didn't develop with like no new

skills. Do you understand you could trade Forex right now and make more money selling crack? Do you understand that people who sell crack make less than people who work for Amazon? That's not even including the benefits. No, there

are no benefits. So I'm telling me. Think about one of the drug dealer die you don't I'm just saying when they ever seen like when the street nigga died and the niggas be they net worth be 16,000 like you did all

this in the streets so 16,000 like they still doing go fund me fuck nigger you owe 12,000 on an escalate so basically all right you did you took all these chances

for $4,000 for $4,000 money some outfits. Amen. But throw back Thursday though for the rest of your life. That's what you did it for. Remember that? I remember what I was that boy. Nah, man. I don't

shit. Because I remember real drug dealers. Not saying that the drug dealers. Yeah, what was that mean? No, I'm just saying like drug dealers from the 90s and shit. When I was growing up, that shit looked like the life. It's like pre-internet, right? Man, before the internet came, man, the drug dealers just looked like they was having fun all the time.

They had nice cars. They had fine women. They had the nicest animals. They had the best dogs. They were just, what the drug dealers were outside? They might have snakes. Everybody was outside. All the crackheads was outside, washing cars and shit.

It was just a better environment when the drug dealers, when they was just put outside being drug dealers with the music playing. And your uncle would be like, hey. Get your ass from over there. What? They're not even selling drugs right now. I like this song. We're just in the neighborhood. I grew up.

Get your hands in the house. You know they sell drugs. They go under the jail. They go out of the defendant. All of them. Everybody. Look at them. It was always that one old nigga who didn't approve.

Y'all was just going to sit here and eat the barbecue that he bought with this drug money. Do you want a rip? Hey, y'all want a rip. I'm just saying. I thought you all. Get me? It's back when the drug dealers gave a fuck about the community. Yeah, they had to.

Just saying. Like, they didn't have a side hustle getting, like, doing Instagram live. They need this. But they can't be on Instagram live talking about the shit they did while they were selling drugs. They do. But you can't. I'm trying to tell. They're guns.

They're drugs. They're, like, all this stuff is on their live. Stop doing that Stop doing that That's not I'm going to act right I tell motherfuckers all the time

You don't Don't record me Doing shit that illegal Well just see My thing is I just don't do illegal Me either Yeah I just know

Yeah But I'm just saying Yeah it's not worth it I need to be in a safe environment By the way The trap is a very Like I feel so safe It is safe

It feels like Yeah It's because not that we're doing We're just trapping media out of here That's all it is It's the 85 South show This is the number one Rated Black show

Amongst people who brother Who used to sell drug, man Like When they do the polls They get real specific Mm-hmm Analytics You ask any black woman

Name Kiki What her favorite show is? This one Yeah That ass But I mean This is a dope show man Like y'all actually

Like y'all put Like because I'm Again Like I'm I don't know I'm not famous though Yes you are

No no Look at this Look all the shit he did y'all No it's me I work a lot The nigga was in the studio With pink You famous I work

White people like you In this music industry You're good Because somebody was like You know who we need KP Somebody get KP On the goddamn phone

Okay See Actually by the way That was L.A A black person did that But he told a white dude Because you know he had a white dude Proud name Zach

Dick Give me a favor You call K.P. Let's get KP on this. Okay, I like that story. Yeah, I made it up. I like it, Zach. What was that?

Hell yeah. Shout out to L.A. Reed, though, man. He put a lot of black people in position. Like, yeah, bro. Like, him and his crew came to Atlanta and brought, like, some infrastructure. Yeah. Like, to a bunch of talented people and gave, like, real outlets. Which one you met first?

L.A. Reed or Babyface? I met Pebbles first. Pebbles. And she introduced me to L.A., and then I met Babyface last. So when you was meeting them, did you understand you was meeting some of the titans of the music industry right then? No. I knew that these people had some cars I had never seen. They had these funny trucks.

Like, they had rangerovers back when I didn't know what a rangerover was. So I was like, man, they got spaceship trucks. So I was just listening because I was like, they had shit. Right. And I was like, I've seen that in a movie. That's a good reason. drop that look listen to people who have shit

that you don't have they know some shit that you don't know kids look at that especially if you want the shit but clearly you need that's why that dude started making them in their videos where he go up to people like hey man what you do and the people they know about the shit now now I don't want nobody

tell them for real oh I'm going up to the house all aquariums white people be lying about their job they're like you're going to show up and take that motherfucker They'd be making up shit I hang up Home decor

Don't tell black people You can make money doing this shit Secret job Having that's man It's a cold-ass ring Man, he played for the Lakers And some shit My granddad

Your granddad You put you up on that Yeah he gave me this That's a family heirloom You wore it to the trap You see how much That's special Absolutely

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Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your granddad, that's his ring? It was. He was a real one. What was he doing to have a ring like that? Just got a ring shit. Just at the car game talking shit.

I don't need your little money, my grandson, niggum, work with Mariah Carey, motherfucker. God damn cars again Nick ringing this motherfucking big You think I give a shit about this Brand new truck outside Motherfuck, you're mad, sweet rat

That's a goddamn dead on Grandaddy talking big shit That's a hard-ass ring though, man He was a good dude You miss your granddad Yeah, man I was telling him about my granddad on here the other day, man Yeah, no, that was like my real dad

For real. I'll tell him how my granddad's drawls ain't never fit. Whole life. That's funny. Draws was too big. I don't know what he could have did if he would have had the right side draw. Niggins, you just know he chafed up. I'm just saying I just know he was uncomfortable, man.

Yeah. Bats of Breeze. What did they have box of breath? No, you know, he just wore straight old man drawl. Tidy whites, them old ones. Old fruit alone with just the blue stripe. Yeah. The blue stripe and the gold stripe.

old striped. Old-ass bro. Made out of a t-shirt material. Yep, yep. Yeah, yeah, that is. No, man.

Like, yeah, my great-dad. Like, he was that... His, his draws fit. That's like he had the ring, yeah, his drawl fit. Like, I can't... My granddad died a little middle of me a pocket knife.

He didn't get nail rings. Taking all my shit with me. He wore a... He had the bitch on. try to get it off they have reinforced the motherfucker yeah no man so

okay what I'm just like this I'm just I don't want to be I don't want to be the like who is this nigga on here on the couch

this nigga this is who he is he's responsible for all this shit is the most shit nah man You ain't going to be that, nigga. It's just dope to know that it's dope-ass people around here, man. All the shit that you did, all your accomplishments made this shit right here possible, man.

All that work y'all put in and made the city hot. And it's like the light that y'all brought to the city is still here. You get what I'm saying? This shit's still going on. It's a while because I'm like, you know why all these studios at around here. In this three-mile radius, it's 30 studios. You don't know what the fuck going on. on tonight. Yeah, I grew up on deal

up the street. Like, this is like, like, just seeing all this shit grow is like amazing. Exactly. Ain't I own appeal, right down, deal? Right there. Come on, man. Yeah. I mean, it's a testament to how many

talented people in Atlanta, man. Everybody talented. Yeah. You might fuck around and be getting some waffle how a nigga come right back. Hey, bro, no despair. Y'all get through eating. I can rap for you. Yeah. And be five. Be five in a month. or NB from somewhere you ain't never heard

or shit I'm from goddamn Bug Tusa, Georgia. We just came up D-Bee. Oh, you know shit. Trapping this shit, me, my baby. Mom, I'm talking my name in your phone. You got your phone. I don't really fuck with it like that. Can my phone for it, though? I'm on there, though. I'm on there. I hit you.

Shit be locked. What's crazy? I hit, I ran into a thing in the gas station like that a couple months ago and hit him and the nigga played me so left. I was like, damn, man. Okay. Damn, he didn't even know I don't know if he knew or not I just know that he really was not interested

Damn Like I think But it made me laugh In a way that made me Kind of proud too It's like I like that people now Know that they have the power

To do their own shit Part of being great Yeah it's like man dude Like bro I got to show And he And what he said made me It was like

It was almost made me feel hopeful Like on some end of a movie shit And he was like You know that show I'm gonna just take my time doing my thing, you know, the folks are going to mess with me as they mess with me.

I was like, all right, bro. Like, I appreciate that. You take forever to do that shit, but whatever. Yeah, I appreciate that. You bet. No. See, that ain't how you make it. Hey, man.

But, you know, amen, that's what I'm saying. It's enough information out here now for people to be right and wrong. That's what I be trying to tell them is, like, it's enough information that I hear for people to be right and wrong. And you are wrong.

You have to know that you wrong. You're fucking up. Don't nobody want to hear about that part You're fucking up You go make some good decisions And you're going to make some bad ones That's part of the game But that one right there

That was a bad one You fucked up All this goddamn Google out here And you still don't know nothing Hey man these smart phones Don't make smart people I'm just saying At least get a second opinion

Hey buddy What you think Buddy hit me What the name is Man who look Oh shit Brin that the nigga from uh

you're from uh niggas you know me call saw the bed right now hell yeah niggins don't be known I like I think

I think that's nobody should know unless they care I feel like you should care enough if you don't care enough to know then shit ain't for you like I'm like man learn some shit about what you're trying to do I know that's why I'll be watching Walter Kronkike and shit

one day they're gonna give me a late night talk show because I know how to talk to niggas and are you gonna have to come through me because I'm the only one over here prepared welcome back to daily nightly black news probably be having a girl greater thing out so I can look more believable yeah get you some glasses today we have

K.P. Music you make producers, don't you? Yeah, that type of shit. I was like, you'd be like the nigger whisper. Right. Yeah, like, whenever they need a Negro, I'm like...

They're going to have... Well, at some point, I know that they're going to need an older black man. And I'm from Mississippi, too, so... Yeah, they might just be like, Reverend Carlos Mel. Reverend Good Doctor. Yeah, but you can't see, like they like older black men

who don't want to be popular, so you can't really look up at the camera, you've got to act like you're shuffling something. Today, in black people news looks like we're going to be black forever. Don't change, don't

try, but don't tell no lies. Some shit, I know it's, my purpose is deeper. I got you. Yeah, so you got to research. Right. That's another one. Who did you research? Clarence Avon. Gerald Busby um

the Russell Simmons Andre Harrell you know and when I got to know LA reading baby face like

then I started digging into like their history like with people like Dick Griffey and people they they that's a cold name

bro Dick Griffey it was a gangster they sound like it yeah but but it's like you start figuring out these stories

and started figuring out the similarities of like the work and the people and the character and the character you have to carry

if you want to maintain. So it's like I looked at the people whose music I liked and looked at the people who were behind that. Like I just read like I read credits

then I read biographies on those people if it come up so it's just like get as much information and that way you kind of find out that as different as special as you are you're not that different

and you're not that special. You know what I mean? So it's like but all these special people did this much work. I read Miles Davis' biography and when you think about... That motherfucker was a...

Yeah, but he practiced. Everything, but he was just... He had so much fucking time. He could literally do everything. Yeah, everything. He was a superstar. Like, and that's what I'm saying. He was a superstar and that.

Like, everybody, if you figure out your thing, you can be a superstar. Welcome back to the 85 South Pole. And this is my thing. You know? Yeah, dad. I'm hanging in there like they're rocking me

I haven't been not hit me KP bro don't let this be the last time you fuck with us at the trap man Kat got a question Yeah So like what your skill set When you've been doing

Where's the weirdest place You found out like I never thought out for here It was you Um What was it Two years ago 2018

Um I'm So I became For real's music supervisor music director see how you gonna be telling us shit okay and that's the shit I'm talking about bro it's too regular to you

no this is not regular by the way to me like this is like one of the moments okay I bet okay so I'm I've never done music music um supervise before like in the in the um music director that's what I was music director for his band now I'm not a musician I'm a DJ but I'm like

I know how I like to hear his music I'm like if you drop it like this like the crowd will do this and you know so he was like well why don't you put my show together so he ended up doing that and then he asked him in turn asked me to come DJ for on the road okay so that's like cool then fast forward we end up doing this um festival called something in the water and it was the idea he had where he wanted to just bring you know like like tourism into virginian beach where he's from and um it was around the time that they usually do black college week like beach week in virginia and um they

You know, just we wanted to figure out a way to program and give them something to do when they were there. Because every other time they'd come, something would happen, like, you know, kids, restless. Silly shit happened. So we, like, let us program it cool. The shit went over well. We did the show, and we did a Farrell and Friends set in the show, and I'm the DJ. So, Farrell's friends are Jay-Z, and, you know, so at one point, so that night, we're doing the show, and we're bringing people on. and Jay-Z

I'm sitting on stage I'm DJing and I looked up and I realized I'm DJing for Jay-Z and for real like and Jay-Z is like my favorite rapper but I kept thinking back at that moment I was thinking back

to getting turntables and like how this shit these turntables got me to you know rocking for 40,000 people but being the DJ for like

icons cultural icons L.L. Kool-Jay put you Korn on. You know what? That's the name of my book. L.L. Put me on. L.L. Put me on. The full circle of that. Yeah.

Because, like, if you go back and you look, shit, L.L. Kool-J. went on to become of the same status. You know what I mean? A God MC. Like, he's one of the greatest. Like, and most accomplished, like, didn't fall off. Like, didn't go.

Like, he actually is one of the first success. successful hip-hop artist. Like for real life successes. Got a radio station. You know, rock the bells and like, yeah, it's like, like hip-hop is dope. It really is. Yeah, I feel like that's my, like, I'm... So when you realize you're DJ and for Jay-Zian, for real,

did you fuck up a little bit? Like, oh shit, hold on, let me get back album, multiple. Absolutely not. Hell no. They would have made that. Man, that's been the worst. Oh, wait a minute. The worst. Hold on. Oh, you ready? No, no, no, no, no, no, what, no, what, no, which one? Shit.

Oh, damn, Jay. No, nigga, I'll consider it was you. No, nigga, you know, because I'm looking at your people with this shit. I'm like, nah, nigger! B.O.C. Okay, okay, all right, I'm ready. I'm ready, I haven't read it. You ready?

Nigger. No, you're not at all. Fuck that, dig. At some point. Let me say when I'm not fucking up. When the light on it like that? No. No, I practiced.

Like, I practice. I'm not going to, no. Nope. Like, I'm too hard on myself for that. There you go. Stay focused. That shit would have been hard to get contained. Man, it would be horrible, bro.

Like, to go all this time with a good name and shit. And be the nigga fucked up the Ferrell and J.C. show. Hey, man. No. Because that could happen at any moment. You could be doing too good. And in the middle of one of those breaks, he'll be like, yo, who's your man?

Yeah. He's dope. I like him. And then he'd be like, Ah! Okay. Okay. Right this.

Went back off. Watch this shit. Man, listen. He goes crazy. These nuts be. No, man. But just, yeah. I don't know.

See it's shit like that, man. Where else you're going to hear that from? Somebody. Like, somebody got, like, somebody got this similar story. Like, like, like. No, the fuck they don't, bro. L.L. Cool J. May I bought one walk man. It ain't no niggas.

It ain't no bunch of niggas out here with a story about the time they was DJing for Farrell and Jay-Z. Niggas don't be knowing. Niggas don't know what to do when Pink in the studio and her shoes are. They don't know what she wanted to hear. Where are shoes? Ferrell, one of the coldest niggas to ever make some music. And he was like, yo, put my show together. Like, nigga, I don't know.

What the? What you feel like doing today, bro? I mean, you got those snow boots and a fur coat. What you want me to do, for real? Just do happy a bunch of times, and let's get the fuck out of here. Man, if these thing's like everything you like, they trust you. It ain't no worth of this shit. You went to a Farrell concert and that nigger just did 16 songs you ain't never heard.

You'd be like, nigger, that new shit. That's the real good? Shit. They're like, oh, that was from the old album. What? Wouldn't that shit come out? It's my shit from 96.

What? He has music like that. Yeah. He got a song where everybody that is good at music. Yeah. I mean, he's good at music. Yeah.

Yeah. They're super good at that shit. Like, that's it. When you got a nigga who got this many hits, how are you going to super arrange this shit and make a show? He literally got 50 songs that turn the fucking arena upside down.

But he wasn't really playing them. Like, because I think that's, like, you know, you get tired, you know, I don't know. You just, like, you get numb to your shit. Like, I wouldn't if I was, you know, I don't know. But I guess. Yeah, so.

He don't know. He's like, man, what songs do you think they like? But his songs be too big, bro. You fucking play happy around him. He was like, yo, turn that shit. I was mad every time by hearing it. Bro, I have no disrespect. Play some more shit, but don't play that.

Yeah, nah. No, you gotta be able to. You ought to appreciate happy. I'm telling you he probably get a royalty check just by us mentioning I mean, sing it I'm not going to

Because then my shit My shit fucking around It'd be too dope And they won't let it come out Like the Celo shit Newface did you know It's a Celo green version of Hapit You heard it

Newface might have it's in the bag Is it out Can you find it on the internet? You got it on his computer Shut the fuck Hey, by the way. Newface is going to set up one of them old tape there. Hold on. You want to head? Hold on.

Lying this tape up. You got the debt plate. I got a dad of it. What you bring, Newface? Oh, yeah. Come on, bro. What's you got over? This gentleman. Oh, shit. First of all, you know, I just laid here. Just talk about it, man.

Oh, shit. Carlos talked about it briefly. I don't know what's one. See? So this is a group I was in. Parental Eliza. May everybody know about PA? I don't know. Why that's it?

Where does this take you back to you? Okay, so first of all, it's the 20-year anniversary of I'm serious. So that's crazy. Because that niggas that be holding the wall. Shout out of tip, what's up? Yeah. Yeah, this is crazy. This is the first time we'll work before, actually, on this.

Like, well, no. No, you don't have to call it. This was after that. I'm sorry. But, like, the first rap shit. Like the first rap shit, like, this I felt different about because he was signed on my label. And I'm like, yo, like, yo, you'll work on this thing. This new dude I got. And he heard it and was like, yo, he's crazy.

And, yeah, so, Tip, yeah. And he's just been this thing this whole time. That's the shit I love. Right. That song went crazy. You got a for real beat with Tip and Beanie, man. Yeah, mixed by Duro. I forgot about that.

Yeah, that was something. I didn't know reason again. Like I said, reading the credits. Yeah, it's crazy. This bad mind you get shot. anyway. Okay. Oh, yep. Ghetto Vision, yeah.

It's first. Shake them off. I feel like Shake him off his first single. It's the first single. Young Buds. Yeah. First group signed to Ghetto Vision. Let's see what's that. A Ghetto Vision ain't real no more. Picture that.

A.T. Oh, wait a minute. Listen to KT. Cat and K.P. Yeah. Oh, shit. That was the Bad Boy remix of ATL is hilarious. Yeah, I mean, I'm... It's all your work, man. Come on.

Yeah, shit. It was just talking about Yellow Wolf. New Face, you know, Yellow Wolf used to pull up at the Camel Toe Contest that's By itself. By itself, bro. I'm telling you, bro. For real. I used to host a cameltoe contest.

That's funny and shit. Yeah, Yellow Wolf used to pull up. That's about right. Yeah, with the crazy-ass hair cut with the little rat tail shit in the back Mohawk on the side of shit Oh, oh yeah You ain't even talk about the Kendrick shit

Man, listen That's the thing that I feel like is Like I'm probably like just grateful to be a part of Because it's like At the moment it hit And what it stood for What it means now for it's an anthem now Like it's a black song

Mm-hmm I feel like it's like That's like a good Tell them what song you're talking about I don't know I'm sorry, all right by Kendra Gulman Yeah

It's like Being a part of that It's like that actually I think It's one of the moments Where you know how Some shit It's like

Oh this change this shit Yeah It changed objective of the movements And marches and protest And it changed the face It happened during that moment Like when Jesus My president's black

Yeah It changed Like you said It changed the culture It went this way Yeah so I mean, you know, that's just one of the things, like, again, it's like, I guess the other part is just like, stay, like, stay, like, stay true to you and your people, like, because, like, for real, this relationship starts. It's, I'm serious to this, you know what I mean? So it's, it's, you know, I think you. In least 20. That's 20. Yeah. So it's like, you know, like, I feel like, you know, we ought to have been through ups and downs and we don't have been hot, not hot, you know, and realize that it's no real, like, it's no real, like, it's. Like, it's like, The hot shit is like somebody made up to make you feel like it's secure about if you don't.

And once you realize it's like, man, just be creative. Like, just do the shit that you love doing. Like, don't put, don't, don't, you won't even give a fuck about the time. The time goes by. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's funny. No, they put the effort into it.

No, is it, hey, man. I was buying anything that had that logo on the road. So I've always told them personal, but man, it's just, you know, just, you know, just starting to the year. I appreciate it. Yeah, man. You're a real one, bro. Yeah, I appreciate it. And your contributions to the game shall not be overlooked.

I don't know how many other platforms you've been on, but it's an honor and the privilege to have you over here in the trap on 85 South show. Hey, yeah, I appreciate it. One thousand a show, dude. I'm, like, this is one of ones that I'm like, like, I told my kids, I'm going to be on 85 South. Like, it's, like, it's some cool shit. I did the same thing before I got it. Yeah. on me. Like, yeah, when I used to come in, I used to do that shit.

But no. But, no, man, this shit is like, this is dope to me. Like, so I appreciate y'all having me up here and, you know, kicking it with y'all in the trap. Oh, man, when did this shit come out and then your people going to hit you and be like, nigga, I ain't know you're on that big, why you ain't tell them about that time? You forgot to get Monica sandwich and she wouldn't? Yeah, for her, I ain't got no story about it. No, that's fucking with you.

I mean, no disrespect. I would. I mean We gotta get her up here, man I've been trying to get her up She said she was coming I'm surprised She ain't even up here

She said she was coming She's very home And she had home I know she loved Get on shit That's my nigga I was hosting the shit show One night

She pulled up She had her own microphone I don't know How the motherfucker Was hooked up To the club shit already She had her own gold microphone

She pulled that motherfucker out She walked in the club with a fur coat on every trap nigga in that damn near crap I'm talking about they was about to cry she sung three songs a float two or three songs didn't you three songs I'm talking about sound

like the CD no I mean she you know she that she that one for us man exactly like yeah she's a real one like she's always come through like she came through like for a Neptune just did some records on her new project coming out like it just dropped one with

her and a little baby. This is, you, okay. What I was about to say is, like, and she has always come through, like, when I DJ, like, I do these and friends sets, and, like, at one music, it was the idea that Monica came out on there. And it's just, like, the way that people love Monica,

it's like, it's like the two-pock level shit. I'm telling you, man, she wanted to, I don't even know how to explain it, but that is real. That's all I got. It's like. I'm talking about, when she walked in the room, everybody loves her. They started smiling. and shit. Like, man, the whole shit changed. Like, they started to call them

a moor and shit, but I'm like, oh, man, like people love them on it. For real, for real. And you can see her she'd be everywhere, man. And she love him back. Like, that's, that's what it is. It's like, the fact that she genuinely gives love, that's what comes back from that. That's why she got to come up here.

She got to. Well, look, man, don't let this be the last time you come, bro. That's the first time. Hold up. Wait a minute. Pause. Don't let this be the last time you come to the trap. Shit. Can't say shit no more.

Yeah, I don't know who got the craziest process. I don't know who has the craziest process that I work with because everybody has their own special shit. Like Tip doesn't write, you know, but people do that. But it's like to think. think about when he's doing them other voices and like this was you know when he first started doing it this wasn't like the everyday

conversation that you don't write shit down but I don't know man I think everybody is oh what what huh oh that's funny

like so we okay one time with Courtney Seals in the house what up why are you over there you say nothing? Yeah bear mellow why don't you might go come on over here now You might as well coming over in there, bro. He's just chilling.

Yeah, sure. Okay. So Bear managed Yellow Wolf. We managed him together, and when we were toward the, what was this, radio active? Oh, there it is. So when we were working on Radioactive, we ended up working with M&M. So I got to call you or him to get Yellow Wolf up here. Yeah.

Hit him? You told me to hit him because you know I don't got his number. I got your name. You know right, yeah. All right, man. You're going to need to get him up here. He's parting from the strip club before they told. They asked the elite down to come up here and fuck with me.

He's going to know who you're talking about because he used to be in there. He's going to know. At the Cameltoe contest and shit. When he was on his Atlanta shit and he used to pull up, remember it was me, him and Jackie Chain and shit, and we were smoking one night and then. Yellow Wolf had a lot of weed, and he kept rolling up. And I was like, bro, why we smoking these big ass joints and shit?

And it was crazy. Whatever. It was a lot. It was way. He knows, though, just tell him. So, watching this dude with M&M, like, we would laugh about it, not laughing, but just talking about the fact that he just sits on a treadmill

and runs and writes raps, listening to a walkman. It might be the L.L.L.C.C.W.J. Walkman. What a nigga? What a little? Wait a minute. Wait a minute, bro. How the fuck do you run on the treadmill and write reps at the same time.

But, like, running, though. Like, not, like... Full speed. Nick, running. Now, you're running. Right. At the same time. No, you just see it.

Like, he's just saying. He's just, like, listen to the beats. And that's what he's, I guess, that was like... That's some white dude-ass shit. Because it's just reminded me of a white... Do you remember the high school? He was the one crazy-ass white boy used to run down the hall real fast. Yeah.

Damn, Eminem. Maybe he'd be trying to, like, make sure he's going to have enough winning and the same. Hey. There you go. Damn. That's why he's going to fuck up none of that shit. Cardio.

That might be the other. Y'all can really just tell him he's better than most of the people. He don't really have to do all that. That's how you'd be better, though, right? You take him like two hours to do one mind. Like, he's a perfectionist. He's a perfectionist, dude. And this shit you won't hear, I won't hear it, but he hear it.

So, yeah, I mean, hey, bro. that's some genius type shit bro you got a little james and you stop recording your verses so fast and do some cardio and do some cardio yeah learn yeah a lot of rappers don't know their lyrics I hear it don't be that I hear it I hear it's a thing

you've been to the concert you know the five would they be like hey yeah I mean, they're doing so many goddamn songs, though, bro. They do, like, how do you remember all them songs? You wrote them? The audition. They're yours?

You should. You should at least have a general idea. At least a verse where you could be like, all right, cut that shit off. Ooh. Do the part you like. You can't do your part? Yeah. Yeah, no, it's different.

Like, I mean, but they don't have to. Like, listen. they don't have to like the amount of shit you don't have to learn to come out with a record like I think that might be the only like thing I wish that

there was just more interest in learning the craft like just a little bit more like because the longevity is just in it like you said like you can get hot by just doing some violent shit but usually that shit's short

it happens just as quick as it blue the shit gone unless you actually put some time in and learn something like learned a skill in it like have some fundamentals. Right. But, you know, that's my old man River shit for the day.

Hey, well, I dropped plenty of old man shit in here. This is the 85% show. And we have these bits. KP. Blueface. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, man.

Nothing but the dope. You ready? Hold up. Get a shot. Let's get a photo. Yeah, hope Get a shot Oh, we're gonna do some shit.

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