The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Kia Shine in the trap! Wit Karlous Miller, DC YoungFly, Clayton English, & Chico Bean!!

Episode Date: April 9, 2022

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Starting point is 00:01:27 a cult leader married himself to 10 girls, and force them into a secret life of abuse. But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to the Turning River Road on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I got the footage of the nigga y'all want to see. Y'all got enough of saying that bring 2006 Kanye back.
Starting point is 00:01:49 That nigga was like, I got, oh, that footage. I'm going to drop seven hours' worth of documentaries for the niggas who say that, and then be right having a nigga talking about them every day. I don't know, I think he had a breakthrough, though. I don't even know if there's just internet cap, but he got a new chick that's supposed to look just like the one he was mad about.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I see him. Bro, if that's real, I hope that nigga, I hope it's real for the nigga. We're cloning, we're cloning that? We're going to clone a bitch. Yeah. It's like having insurance. Can you, can you swap a personality out?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Uh-uh. You got, you can tell the other one that's fully responsible. You got to tell her exactly what you want, because she's not your real girl. This is your replacement. You remember when they had the lockout? Right. When they brought in all the replacement players.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah. Yeah. She'll read. Basically, they're like, when you get a side chicken promoter. It's kind of like when you had the concert and you just pick somebody at the crowd, like, she's living her dreams right now. She never thought she would actually be
Starting point is 00:02:56 Kanye's girlfriend. You got the other girlfriend. But she had 30 minutes, she had, she wore 30 M. Who? The white regular with her? Oh yeah. That's all? Yeah, she played, yeah, she wore 30 M.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I thought she was richer than that. That's so regular white people, money. You know, she had, yeah, her film, she had 30 M. Okay. She played, I bet she played in that show or hitting Jim. Ain't shit on? Yep. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Oh, come on, come on, come on. Come on, get the mic, get the mic up. I knew it one time to start it. Yeah, he did this one game. I knew it when time to star just. What's up with a kid. What's up. I told you it wasn't time to start.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah, you know, we got to do it organic, man. Yeah, yes, sir. It's organic. You keep it all over there. You feel the voice. Yeah, he doesn't, you know, the divide. Hey, man, he could have got an Ethiopian chick, though, this turn. They kind of just looked.
Starting point is 00:03:46 He could have got an Ethiopian chick. And look like him, he looked better. But better. But better. Like, if get back was what he's getting with, that's what he should have. He got an Armenian. Yeah. Better than the Armenian, you gotta go to Ethiopia.
Starting point is 00:04:00 You gotta go to Armenian and get a princess. Kim Armagnan, right? She, Armenian, yeah. Yeah, but you gotta get with like the princess, somebody she got to respect. And then keep bringing her around. He's there, cause too, I'm shit. He's seen what, she's not.
Starting point is 00:04:16 That might be internet, though. We don't know. Because the nigga did say he don't live nowhere. I know you remember that part. You can rap there, John and do song. Oh, he was talking about. That nigga lived in the stadium. Who?
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He told him to do that, though. All that is joy. He picked the lead in. Now, I was just telling him that nigger, genius, because he dropped the documentary of footage
Starting point is 00:04:37 when people said, bring 2000 Kanye 6, 2006 Kanye back. Uh-huh. He would drop the footage. Of that nigga. You know that shit crazy to see, like, him playing them, them songs, that's classic songs forever now, playing them for people back there,
Starting point is 00:04:51 and they were like, you know, that's the inspiring part of it, though. That's the whole inspiring part of it right there, though. Like, you know what I mean? Nobody don't believe till you believe. Right. Nobody believes until you believe. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:03 When you believe, you know what I mean? That's the force, that's the magnet that like pulls other people into it. It's your belief. It starts with what you believe. Right, right. It's an internal first, you know what I mean? So you see him making it moves
Starting point is 00:05:15 and doing this thing and like, you know. And I think it is a, he's very smart, whoever is running. You don't become a being there and I know nothing. But look at all this shit that he had to go through first. Because you remember the first time his album got leaked, that nigga was crushed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:29 But then none of those samples clips so we had to go back and redo all these songs. Yeah, I know that. I've been through it. Like, it's like, it's like, but whoever's on his team, he's smart. Like, yeah, I think about it.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Kanye came with a total niggas, man, that was a slave, it was by choice, and he had everybody hot at them in. Okay, had everybody hot and he put the Donald Trump hat on, did all that, right? Okay, bam, niggas was hot. The urban marketplace was upset. So what did he do?
Starting point is 00:05:55 He swings to the guy. the God. He goes to God and he's and now he's dropping the music for God. You know what I mean? He go to Jesus. You mad at me. Like I made a mistake. He goes and performs with Joel Osteen. He was on Joel Osteen. Sure. You see what I'm saying? He goes to
Starting point is 00:06:10 the spirit right because you know, you know us as black folk, we got affectionato for Jesus. So it's like bam, he's spinning that way. Okay, bam. So he to come, the Trump shit comes down a little bit and all that or whatever and shit. Now he had a divorce shit going on with our girl. Bam. do. Throw a documentary out, Netflix, Ben had the documentary
Starting point is 00:06:30 to drive, bam, you know what I mean? I think it was a setup from the old John. I think it's all set up. I think the nigga figured out the music business and said, fuck this shit. Money's in the media. So I'm about to do, I'm gonna say all this internet shit and make y'all talk about me every day. Whether you like it or don't like it. Who schooled them? Who taught them then? The best people in the fucking media. Come on. Who the Jenner? It's the whole fucking plot.
Starting point is 00:06:56 is they, they, they, they've been had to be in the Cardiff's. And for some reason, I think Vince McMahon is in there too. I don't know. No, I know Ryan, C-cress is in there, though. Oh, come on, okay. Come on, no. So you say he was really infiltrate. Mm-mm. I don't feel like, he was in love.
Starting point is 00:07:14 He was soaking up. He was a tutelage. Listen, all the girl's mom is a beast. All the way. We got to respect that. You can flip anything. She, you know, she, she's a beach. She'll flip anything.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Listen, man. But you slip. some shit, she'll tell people it's a new mud bear. Yes, she got, she definitely got a plan. You know what, she got a plane. But see, the thing about Kanye is he didn't did, like you said, niggas was hot at him, but shit, back then in 2006, when Katrina happened,
Starting point is 00:07:43 the world was the white folks was high at him. So he didn't, he didn't have everybody, every type of person mad at him, bro. He literally is at every type of person from everything. And he didn't go from love to hate to love. That niggas. Over and over again. But niggas really one of the greatest, man.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You got to give him that all the way. His influence. We ain't hate him there. No, we didn't hate him then. But when he put the Trump hat on, that was the reverse of what he did. Yeah, we loved him all through. Yeah, through the Katrina. Through all that.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Beyonce had one of the greatest videos of all the time. We was with him. We was with him the whole time. You know, you ain't got the answer, sway. Who are we? It took a-you-know-that-n't really dead shit that's going to make niggas be like, all right. It's hard to get a damn kick a nigga out of the black community.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You really got to do some little-hound shit. What you just said. Remember, the nigga said, you don't have the answer, Sway. Sway did have the answer. But he didn't. But he didn't. But he said, why don't you do your own shit? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Instead of going to these motherfuckers. And trying to get him to that shit. He said, you don't know. You don't know. You don't know. You don't know the answer, Sway. And niggas said, I've been doing this way more than you. How many bills.
Starting point is 00:08:52 He owes. He owes. He owned sway. Now that I think about it, And I'm thinking of that interview, Swait had most of the fucking ass. I don't know, but most. Maybe he told Sway he didn't have the answers
Starting point is 00:09:05 to throw us off as the public. Right, but he told niggas wouldn't be like, that is the shit. Yeah. He's like, you don't have the fucking asses. Basically saying, nigger, shut up. Yeah. He said, I think cameras is on.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Thank you for the answer, Sway. Thank you for the answers. Thank you for the answers. Thank you for the answers. You don't got the answers. You don't got the answer. Just like when a nitty be talking and you'd be like, you better shut your ass up.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Shut up. Hey man, welcome back to the 85-7 show. Yes, sir. Oh, we've been nominated again. We've been nominated. Nominations. For the international coalition of black Americans with internet access.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Award, nigger. It's the number one podcast that people listen to why they get their hair rated. There it is. Hey. We won. We won. We won.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I made that up. We got there. Congrats guys, congrats, guys. But I know for a fact that when people get their hairbrated, this is some of the shit that they got playing in the back. Oh, they play this in the barbershop. I know. They make it everywhere.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Y'all are definitely. I want to give y'all, y'all roses, y'all, y'all roses right. Now, man, y'all definitely have done a great thing, man. You definitely have deserved, you know what I mean? Everything that got coming to y'all, because all of y'all, you work, you know, you put that work in, you know what I mean? So, you know, I just love what's going on with y'all, bro. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:40 And it's organic, it's real. We appreciate that, bro. And, you know, you got some talented brothers, man, so, you know, and it's so much more on the way. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate it. So much more on the way, man. If you don't know who we got in the trap with us today,
Starting point is 00:10:52 let me tell you, man, one of the coldest, freshest, hardest working niggas I ever met in my life, bro. All the way from Memphis Tennessee. The nigga's been nominated for multiple awards to
Starting point is 00:11:07 a writer of the year. Shit, like four, five times in a row or something shit, always represent and he got his hand in the music game
Starting point is 00:11:17 to the point what niggas be like, what he'd be on now? Yeah. Man, you don't need no long as introduction. Then my can't fold. Kishanity.
Starting point is 00:11:25 He's shining a bit. Nothing, nothing. Nothing, nothing. You got it. I'm talking about. Thanks for that intro, too. One of them niggas who took, he was telling me, you took away
Starting point is 00:11:38 and made a motherfucking way. Everything that happens in the rap game, you've been through it. You don't wrote for motherfuckers. You've produced songs. You didn't have your hands and some of the biggest hits you've been around. You've been conversations that people
Starting point is 00:11:51 who don't even know about, man. Catch us up, but start from the top. I mean, like, I think, like, I'm thankful that I've been able to do some things, but at the same time, I'm not where I want to be. I'm thankful I'm not where I was, though. You know what I mean? I think if you stay humble, you won't crumble, and your blessings won't fumble.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Oh, that's one to write that down like that. Stay humble and you won't crumble and your blessings won't fumble. I want that on a sweatsuit. Chico, I need that on the sweatsuit right here up and on this leg. Exactly. I feel like that's the thing, like, because I always tell my, my, My sons, I'd be like, man, if I was a garbage man, I'd just be a cool garbage man, man, man, I'd be, you know what I mean, but what you do is not really necessarily who you are.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And I think that the public kind of sometimes they misconstrue when they, a person, what they do, and who they are. You know, who I am is a father and a husband, you know what I mean, and a faith walker, just like y'all. You know what I mean? They believe in something and got the balls enough to be able to stand on it, stand on the business, and walk what I talk. But, you know, I'm from Memphis, as y'all know, of those who are just tapping, I love y'all show because y'all allow individuals to be able to introduce people
Starting point is 00:13:03 to, like, you know, to people that necessarily might not be familiar, but, like, I may be new to you, but I ain't new to the game. It's like I've been around. Like, I started with a drummer boy, you know what I mean? Back in the day in Memphis, man. Shout out the drummer boy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:19 He always stopped in here so much, yeah. No, of course, I actually, man, I had a record label, Diamond Cut Entertainment, Memphis. I was trying to put out my brother's music. I, you know, just kept investing in doing that thing, man. I, you know, and was trying to make something pop. And I actually met Dino Del Valle, the guy that signed cash money to that $30 million deal back in. Universal. He came to Memphis, man.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And when he came to Memphis, I tried, man. We linked up with him or whatever, man. I said, well, you've ever got to New York, look him up. I came to New York, and I ended up playing him some records. He didn't like down the records. He was like, man, you know, I'm like, this is my first trip to New York. So we're talking about 2000. I'm like, man, I got to figure out something.
Starting point is 00:13:57 So I play a tape of a beat, put the tape down and play this beat right. I'm feeling a rap because I felt like he felt my vibe. You know what I mean? So I'm thinking like maybe like, you know, he can just get into my vibe. When I played a beat, he was like, man, it's hard as hell. Man, who beat is your beat? I said, yeah, it's one of my little youngers or whatever. He said, man, I want to buy this beat.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I'm like, you want to buy the beat? How much you give me for the beat? I give you $5,000 for the beat. I'm like, the beat is sold to you. And it was, I'm up here like, my whole hustle was like on, I'm a CEO of a record label, but then I came up here and sold this man the beat.
Starting point is 00:14:34 So I went back home, and I went guy with drama and them, man, and got more beats and just started selling beats. You dig what I'm saying? I ended up getting a production deal with Rough Riders. When they were Roughrider, it was like on fire and shit. I got a record with DMX and this other girl they had at the time,
Starting point is 00:14:50 in Jersey Monet and I'm selling these beats. I ain't know how to turn the drum machine on. You did what I'm saying? But I took a trip to LA because I'm like, I'm up here in New York selling beats. Shit, I'm gonna go and see if I can get some money for the beats in LA or whatever. And I ended up hooking up with Universal
Starting point is 00:15:04 and they gave me a pub deal based on these beats. Like I said, I couldn't turn on the drum machine. I ain't know how I've done it. I just had the youngest that was like, at the time Chris was just getting out of high school. You think what I'm saying? I'm a boy and I was just at the right place, right time. And I was able to sell and I got a publishing deal.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I got $150,000, I came back to Memphis and signed anything they had like a buzz in the hood at the time and that was like, yo God, this skinny pimp, gangsta black, lichette, all this like that. So she had just left $3.60 or whatever. So I started, took that money and put that money into like Brandon
Starting point is 00:15:35 this new thing that I created, which was rap hustlers. Rap hustles was like QC. You know what I mean? He is now in Memphis then and I had a rap tour bus or whatever, man. We ain't no tour rules going on nothing. I just wrapped the butt.
Starting point is 00:15:47 We didn't have to tour bus. but it's like we're making, you know, we put it in their faith. This was before Instagram and all that. So we had to find a way to be able to get the city on us because at that time, with 3-6 Mafia, they were 3-6 Mafia and they were A-Bottom J-G. So we're trying to, like, be the new thing
Starting point is 00:16:02 to come out of the city or whatever. So, you know, to be able to stand up to what the 3-6 Mafia were doing at the time. We had to really make a splash. So I got the tour bus I put criminal man, Yo, Gotti, Skinny, Pimp, all my artists, and put myself on the bus, and we just built this buzz up,
Starting point is 00:16:18 and I was, like, putting these records out, you know what I mean, that were, like, working. Criminal, man. That's a Memphis, nigga, for you, though. Nigger went and got a bus. Wouldn't know where to go. Man.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Like, fuck the car. Give me a bus. You know, rap this bitch. Criminal. Man. If I even hear a nigger say, quuck. Now, you, so you had a hand in,
Starting point is 00:16:38 and helping your Goddy get in the game. Yeah, so, like, when I met Goddi, he had just putting out a mixtapes in the hood, he didn't have a song on the radio yet. So, um, but we was a guy to, making noise in the city out you know like when you get money the word get around so it's like i'm i'm going in our town selling beats or whatever and stuff like that so my name getting hot and i'm and i'm helping producers in the city like drama boy get they look you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:17:01 and get them and inspiring them or whatever and they linking with different rappers and stuff like that they were bubbling right then so i'm like connecting the dots kind of the p-did-it-like vibe or whatever is what i was doing for my city and um so from that um you know i get gody and we decided to do a two-album deal where we do a joint venture with his label and my label or whatever and that's what you got, the first album. He came out, which majorly, which was called Life. So what I did, that summer
Starting point is 00:17:27 when I got with Goddian, I put that tour bus to New York, Steve Ghalib had TVT records, LaJohn and Yining. Yeah, TVT. Back in the day, it was not... The Ivy brothers were signed to him back in the day. Because back in the day,
Starting point is 00:17:38 it wasn't a lot of New York, New York labels giving Southern artists a chance. You see what I'm saying? So it was like, you had Universal, you know what I mean, TVT, but some people didn't understand what we're going on doing the South.
Starting point is 00:17:50 So it's like, I'm up in New York, pushing your guard on people in 03. You know what I'm saying? They like, man, we don't understand it, but I'm seeing what's going on with it in the town. I drove my tour bus to TVT. They like, man, this is beautiful. I tell them, I want an 80,
Starting point is 00:18:02 I want the same deal Master P guy. You know what I mean? I want 80, 20. I want no money up front. Just give me that. I'm going to just put my records out and do that. They were like, they liked it, but they were in the process of screwing
Starting point is 00:18:13 little John and Yan, you know, at the same time, you know what I mean? So it was like, They didn't like the fact that I had all these artists and I'm up here popping my work from Memphis and I'm like, I don't know advance, I'm gonna push my thing. So I pushed my thing and, you know, the Godi, we put out Skinny Pym, Gotti.
Starting point is 00:18:28 These albums did like 100,000 records. You know, really? Was that, it been a long time coming and live? So that is a record produced by Drama Boy, which I put Gotti with Drama Boy, you know what I mean? We did Life, Life album, which I own that album, so you can go stream this on all the platforms right now. With that album, it had a record
Starting point is 00:18:46 featuring a little John called Dirty South Soldiers. It had a record called, I'm a sell my dope can't trust no bid. Pop my will, pray, bread with my clique. If a nigga don't hustle, then a nigga don't eat. That was me on that, John. But, like, giving what God in, putting those records out, and then the strivener through TVT did that.
Starting point is 00:19:09 But then I'm in the street, my partner in the street, you know what I mean? And we, like, you know, we're turning up or whatever. And my partner had called a charge. and when we called a charge in a time it was a big deal people heard about it or whatever and then the label heard about it
Starting point is 00:19:21 so they took that as an opportunity to not give you your money not give me my bread and then to try to steal my artists or whatever so that's what that's what took place with the yo-guided thing and all that or whatever
Starting point is 00:19:30 and that's how we end up falling out doing that time or whatever but he was young and we was all going through to get to it because he was taking losses in the street too so it was like and TBT was just a bad spot or whatever like you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:19:42 so I learned quick like you can grow fast but you can just grow too fast or whatever, right? So, you know, I got knocked on my ass for a minute. Law said the thing I had, you know what I mean? I had sold, like 200,000 records through TVT, but they ain't paid me for none of them.
Starting point is 00:19:54 So I went, bro, law, said, I mean, I just had two abortionality. The only thing I didn't lose with my wife, you know what I'm saying, who's with me to this day, I've been married 20 years. And, you know what I mean? We got a podcast coming to,
Starting point is 00:20:09 Kim, Falk, and Queen that's dropping this month, too. But basically it's like, you know, I had to build it back up again, One more thing I did do, I put my DVD inside the YoGadi CD. And by doing that, at the time, it's like the niggins who was buying my music or buying that YoGi City, they would get my DVD inside of. And they had caught my number was on the CD. Hey, bro, hey, my life would you be able to go out of Texas, man.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And then do some records for me, man. So, me and my wife and my little brother, I had my car repossessed and sold in my house, too. So I got an $1007. And we were beating it down, just selling mixtaping, like selling beats or whatever, to go to get it back up. But then when I got it back up, I said, I'm going to do what I never had. I got to do what I never done. So I got, I got to come out with a song. I got to come out with some music. I ain't going to cross me. You did what I'm saying. So I did that. And when I did that or whatever, I had already did the groundwork with my records that I put out with
Starting point is 00:21:00 a chat and Skinny Pimp and Gangster Black and, and, you know, yo Goddy. So people, I would rap with them records too, so people would know me. So it was like, when I came out with my own thing, I immediately was able to get a deal. And I, and I was a stunter frames and respect my fresh, I'd be everywhere. Those songs came like, it kind of started swag music, you know what I mean? Like, this whole respect my fresh was like, I'm talking about nothing but that, number, jerk.
Starting point is 00:21:25 You know, doing the time when everybody was talking about trap or die, and I ended up being different enough to be able to, you know, I had my buzz up, I got my spins up, and I was able to give me a deal with Sylvia at Universal Motown. Silvermore. Signed with her in 07, and then I came with the so crispy thing. And crispy, yeah, you know what I mean? So that's kind of like
Starting point is 00:21:41 how to rap thing, kind of like, Happened for me, it was like, you know, kind of like, a guy used me on the mic, behind the mic, you know what, it depends on what season, and he got me, and he could be selling bees. I just know that anything can sell or nothing won't. For My Heart Podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is The Turning, River Road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.
Starting point is 00:22:14 In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to ten girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor? But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And then he became the pry. Listen to the Turning River Road on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the movie pass era? Where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd. Host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet.
Starting point is 00:23:10 On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech. headlines, like the visionary behind a movie pass, black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of movie pass the company that he founded. His story is wild, and it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary. We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt, they're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a black founder, Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me
Starting point is 00:23:49 and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created There Are No Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There Are No Girls on the Internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When your car is making a strange noise, no matter what it is, you can't just pretend it's not happening. That's an interesting sound.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's like your mental health. If you're struggling and feeling overwhelmed, it's important to do something about it. It can be as simple as talking to someone or just taking a deep, calming breath to ground yourself. Because once you start to address the problem, you can go so much further.
Starting point is 00:24:25 The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council have resources available for you at love your mind today.org. So it's like, you know what I mean? It's like, for me, it's like, okay, like if I'm selling bees this time, okay, I've got to run the label this time, okay, now I've got to put myself out, be the arts, okay, I can do that.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You dig what I'm saying? And then from there, you know, I was so crispy and wild and that whole thing or whatever. I really did a good deal with Universal because, you know, coming into it, I owned an A-A thing or whatever. Like, so, you know, did that. And then, you know, you end up working with Lou Wayne at hobbies out here in Atlanta, whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:24:57 And one of the records that I ended up doing for Wayne end up being best they ever had. You see what I'm saying? Hold up. Stop right there. Because we got to take a break and come back right after these messages. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:25:08 He's about to have to be. He's about a half. He's about a half. Boom. I need you. Fool. I need no, bro. I'm gonna go stupid.
Starting point is 00:25:16 You go hard, bro. I appreciate it. Bro, you go hard. Come on, man. Like, you go hard. Like, you really go hard. You're talented. Like, oh, I was just saying I'll give you on Rogers anywhere.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I was like, bro, like, multiple hustles, man. Multiple hustles, man. One is too close to none. Yeah. Like a whole set of, you know what I mean? This skill, you're a creative. This thing, today is this day, this day is dead. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:40 Like, bro. Like, I see, I see that in all of y'all. Like, I'm inspired by y'all. Like, I'm gonna make you know what? Like, you know what I mean? Like, just my old thing, dude. Yeah, real, man. You had to end story.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Like, he was selling us a backstory about all these damn. Man, this nigga had a hand that so many niggas in the game. Yo, God, y'all, them early in the game. Yeah, but a nigga about a bus with nowhere. And that's why that's why I thank y'all for letting me be able to talk. Because it's, like, it's, like, a lot of them, the, you know how it is in the game. I saw the niggas is, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:10 They don't, they feel like if they pull, you, you're a threat to them. But it's like, man, God say you got no respect the person, what you do for one, he'll do for another, a sister and a brother. So it's like, you know, but some people, they don't do that, they don't, you know what I mean? Is it hard to maintain,
Starting point is 00:26:26 is it hard to maintain quality relationships in this game being, as though you've been in it for a long time, you know what I mean, does it? Like, and you was, at one point was super duper hot, so I'm sure everybody answers your phone calls them, but as time goes on, is any of those relationships, solid or do you keep them or do most of them, you know, fall by night?
Starting point is 00:26:45 Man, listen, man, like, the thing I know is that anything to sell, nothing won't. Anything and sell, nothing won't, man. Like, the circle, I respect the circle of being, because I understand what it is being. I stand on there. Okay, cool. I got to have something to sell you. You know what I mean? I got to have something to tell you. And if you're in the streets, I better have
Starting point is 00:27:01 something to mail you. But not, it's another conversation. But I'm saying, like, you've got to have something to sell. So I like, I respect it. I call it a treat theory. This is why I feel about it, right? Okay, so right now we're in the winter. Okay, so if you're a fruit tree, peace tree, whatever that is right, that fruit is not on you right now.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Okay, it's bare, all right? Whatever fruit is in season, they're going to go pick from the tree that got the fruit, you know what I mean? So I get it. If I'm on fire and I'm on hot, you know what I mean, you're going to pick from the fruit, but then when my season over when I got to go
Starting point is 00:27:33 through my harvards and go through my, you know what I mean, go through my pruning, you dig what I'm saying? I'm still a fruit tree. You dig what I'm saying? But it's like I respect how the gang going to go pick up. up somebody else that's in their season but it's about seasons you know what I mean our lives that we live right now we mirror we mirror the natural natural natural
Starting point is 00:27:49 mirrors our lives the nature mirrors this mirrors our own life so what I'm saying like is this like you're gonna always have a season to where like you have fruit and they're gonna be season where somebody else is in their season that don't mean you ain't a tree no more they mean you got to go through your pruning you know I mean so you can have richer fruit in your different season so for me I always look at it like life being like that it's like okay cool I can I was telling them, like, okay, one season, I'm finding this young kid, drummer boy, and I'm selling his beats, and I end up getting a song deal with these dudes,
Starting point is 00:28:18 beats and the publishing deal and doing all that, all these dudes, okay, cool, and he go on with his life and he do his thing perfect. But then I got a whole plan of my plan, like, okay, cool, I want to rap, I want to do this thing or whatever, so I want to sign artists. So it's like, God had me doing behind the mic on some season. It had me in front of the mic. Sometimes he had me on the camera, sometimes I'm behind the season. I just know. I'm like, you know what I mean? It's the relationships. You know, certain relationships you can activate when you're on fire.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Certain relationships, you write. When you ain't, when you ain't on fire, I'm supposed to not fin after the phone, you know what I mean, and all that. But it's cool because we're just talking about it, like having multiple talents, having multiple skillsets, not being able to be put in the box. It's like, okay, cool. The phone ain't ringing for me to do Ki-Shine music right now.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Kia Shine and go hop in this movie Superfly or go hop in this TV show over here and go do Star on Fire. and go do Star on Fox and play Leon. I'm gonna play, because I'm in Atlanta and there are other opportunities for creatives to be able to create. There's so many jobs to do inside of this industry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's just in music, like you just named off a bunch when you were selling beats, you were- I could tell you what I did when the pandemic hit, right? Like when the pandemic came and everybody, you know, everybody starts snowing down, right? Okay, so at that time, only thing that rappers could sell was like, they went doing shows,
Starting point is 00:29:40 So it was like, they published it. You see what I'm saying? Publishing became valuable in their time. So it was like, if you had a record that was streaming or whatever and all that, you might wanna do a publishing deal or whatever, get you, you know what I'm gonna get you a little bread right now, why you ain't doing your shows and all that?
Starting point is 00:29:53 So what I was doing is running around doing that. Frank's Key, he had a song, that's some holes in his house, there's some holes in his house. I knew his song was sample by Meg and Cardi B. Soon as they dropped that, Joe, I was like, Frank, did you have a pub deal? No, you don't, okay, cool, stop what you're doing. me call my guy over here at Sony,
Starting point is 00:30:11 they flew down, that man left his anniversary and flew down here and met with Frank. Bam, these four pulled together me and our deal. You see what I'm saying? Because it ended up in the middle of a pandemic, only because I knew that that sample, where that sample came from, and I know that sample was worth money.
Starting point is 00:30:25 You see what I'm saying? So I was able to go make a play and make some money with Frank's Key. That ain't something that, it didn't feel to get pulled. You could have to do that. You didn't have to do that. You ain't have to tell Frank. No, listen.
Starting point is 00:30:35 That's that, because you know how in music industry, that's the perception. By his percent. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, yeah, like, definitely. But for me, it's like, man, like, you know, I'm in the building of business of empowering other individuals, so it's like, you know, you're a boss. I just want to connect the dots and collect a lot, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:51 and then, like, you, and then you go ahead and do your thing, you know what I'm mean? You know what I'm just, and we keep it moving. You know what I'm just saying? You know what I'm just like, you're like, so it's like for me, and there might not be something that's being plugged up or whatever. I talk about on this cast, on this podcast with Chuck. But it's like, that's what the music industry gives me. It's like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I understand that, like, okay, I'm not going to be the hottest individual at all times. So, but I'm going to make some relationships, and I'm going to make some relationships with some people that, okay, I see that I can sell something too, but I could be able to have something valuable. You know what I mean? If I got something that's valuable,
Starting point is 00:31:28 no matter what it is, I'm going to be able to turn one and two. That's what Memphis, and that's what the music business that taught me like, it's like, okay, you know, this is an intellectual property that we're doing. So it's like, it's really just about being, being able to package it and sell it and being able to, for somebody to be able to inhale it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:44 So, you know, that's what I feel like I've been able to do is just do that because I can sit there and be crying like, okay, man, this season, my nigga ain't on me, man, man, you're better, man. Make it work. You got to make, what's you gonna do? But we need those key players to make
Starting point is 00:31:58 those specific, you know what I'm saying, plays work. They're just like, a, what's the OG name? The players of mine, yeah, yeah. Clarence in a fund, yeah. I like that. You know, that don't sing, don't wrap. but his intellectual, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:12 His level is right, man. The rest of the piece of white man, the rest of a wife, man, move, mind. But his intellectual mindset is just, you know what? It's a rap. Mm-hmm. But his intellectual mindset just to be like, you know what, let me bring this person together.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Let me go talk to, and then the crazy part about it, those people respect it to his mind. You can be a star, you're coming in and be like me. You know how rapping and I'm saying. They ain't listen to you. But let Mr. Avon come in here. Hey, I want to come in here. you do.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Yeah. It's their relationship. Yeah, there's money and pure intentions. You know, especially in this industry, you know what I mean? It's a lot of money and pure attention is because a lot of people don't have pure intentions and the longest streak you create making pure connection, the people trust you for that whether or not you hot or not, you know what I mean? You might not eat.
Starting point is 00:32:59 That's irrelevant. That's irrelevant. It's irrelevant to whatever I got more on. I don't think show all the future, right? I thought I brought future to Little Rock, Arkansas. back when, right when he was gonna drop, what a time to be alive, it was the same week. Like, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:14 this man drops, what a time to be alive and I got this man booked for Little Rock. And it's like, it was, man, the spot was a complete sellout. Like, you know what I mean? You know, and it's just like to having a relationship with him to be able to call them and do that or put that play together, whatever. That's the thing to keep me in,
Starting point is 00:33:32 they keep my notes and throws taken care of, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? That's what it is, man. just like doing good business with people or whatever. That's what relationships or whatever have been for me. Even when I got my record deal or whatever, I start hosting that Rap City.
Starting point is 00:33:45 You know what I mean? Like, right, I sent a tape to Rap City, man. They were like, okay, cool. We want you to host Rap City. So I go to host Rap City. This right when I signed, my deal was so crisp being doing it or whatever, right? I'm doing the film and TV and doing the Rap City thing.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And I'm like, okay. I'm digging this TV thing. Like, you know what I mean? Like, so it's like, okay. Like, Sylvie wouldn't let me be the host or whatever because of that. They felt like the people would see me as a host and would see me as an artist.
Starting point is 00:34:11 So it was like dealing with that kind of thing or whatever, we're universal. But like, yeah, I was like, film a TV, I'm gonna get right back to that, you know what I mean? Because that's why I moved to Atlanta. That's why I came down, because I saw like, okay, they're putting millions of, they're putting billions of dollars
Starting point is 00:34:25 into this marketplace. You know what I mean? Shout out to what you just, you know what I mean? Just hopped on and did with over that Tyler Perry. It's like, it's just, it's, this Hollywood, it's like, its money is out here. You know what I mean? And these things weren't available
Starting point is 00:34:37 to me being in Memphis or being like, well, I'm from them, whatever. Like, you don't have those resources on it there. So it's like, you know, I love that you can be able to, like, put this hustle hat on today and then put the podcast hustle on tomorrow. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:50 You put the comedian hustle on right now. Bam, you go put, you know what I mean? You just like the writer hustle on today. You know what I mean? Like, it's just these different lanes that you can be able to get to get your creativity out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:02 Because they ain't really about the money. You know what I mean? Just about being able to get the purpose out. You know what I mean? Yeah. Get the message out. Yeah, because that's what it is, bro. Like, I be seeing the young dudes
Starting point is 00:35:11 that be on the ground with the money and all that I'd be like, man, the people on that money don't even respect y'all. The faces on that money that never respected us. They don't even like us. That's why I keep them folded in my pocket right on the face side.
Starting point is 00:35:24 You know what I mean? Put that crease right there in here. I did have my money, my droll. Niggas ain't supposed to have no money. Wait by the ball. Before every bed. You always been this, though. You've been in the game so long.
Starting point is 00:35:39 You always hit people get asked, like, did you have a chance to sign somebody that you didn't sign or somebody that you saw before they blew up? And you knew, like, you had many of those artists that you saw way before they became superstars and you was, like, had a hand. You could have had a hand in it, but you was just, maybe you passed or, you know, it wasn't the right time.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, um, guerrilla Zoh. Wow. Gorilla Zoh, like, when I first moved to Atlanta, me and Zoh, listen, listen, I had this, I was going on that joint, I had been on that joint, though. I had been on that record, but I was like, when you first recorded, he had like a verse to it.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I was like, yeah, you know, I'm like, I play y'all that, the pressure record, like now, like it was like that. Like, I moved here, he was just moving around or whatever, bro. But I was so busy trying to get my, get my thing up, you know what I mean? And, um, and kind of get my laser back underneath me
Starting point is 00:36:24 because I told you, TVT, T, this is such a horrible deal. But I went to real estate. I was like, shit, I went about two houses in Memphis, okay, and then about six months, I refinanced both of them, pull about 50 out of each one of them. pulled a hundred out, and I had this song called Respect My Fresh, and I came to Atlanta work it, you know what I mean? I already knew how to work music, because I had already
Starting point is 00:36:43 had Gotti, already had Chat, already had Skinny Pimp, and all the other artists that I put music out on, so I knew how to just break me, you know what I mean? And once I broke my music and got the spins up, because that's what they looked for at the time, I was able to get that bag and get on my feet, but I was still in that process of getting on my feet when I met when I met Zelle, you know what I mean, or whatever. So, but I knew he was getting ready to go somewhere, like, you know what I mean? You had a plan for yourself. Yeah, but Skinny Nick, it's in the house.
Starting point is 00:37:08 That's one of the coldest niggins that ever rap, bro. Skinner Pimp is, is, I want to give him as roses. My boy, I love this. I got one life to live, you trill. What's up? Mine? Listen. Listen, Skinny Pimp started the flow that the Migos
Starting point is 00:37:26 or like that style, you know what I mean? Like, but you know, he shows your age when you, but that's how long he'd been doing that, Lord and Famine, You know what I mean, the triplets? You don't think it came from the bone thup? Man, listen, man. That's, that's, I mean, let me know. Like, listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Okay, man, we got to get broke, man. We got to broke, man. I ain't thrown or more. No, listen, listen. Listen, I got to be honest with you, man. Listen, the triplets came from Lord infamous skin and come. This is, we gotta go back to the,
Starting point is 00:38:00 to the early 90s, man. Like, like, it was. before like bone for sure no doubt i love bone and what they brought to the game and harmony and all that yep but do triplets man triple six mafia mafia like like listen all that's that's that's going infamous bro me and my kin folk no am i wrong or right you know what i mean come on man like it's like it's the truth man it is the truth man i'm talking about all the way back to three six mafia mixtape man i can go listen to shit fly i go back to spanish fly i go back to DJ Spanish flat.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I go back to DJ Squeaky Tates, bro. Like, that's what, like, nah, man, like, my favorite shit, like, ever from, I'm talking about one of my favorite songs. Ever, like, looking for the choo. They're looking for the choice, yeah. Looking for the choice. Listen, man, listen to me, man.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Listen, these tapes, bro, like, or the sound, when you hear the Cardi beat, uh, uh, fucking nigger get some money, uh, uh, listen. That is, that is, that is, from squeakies, just like, that's the song. That is the tempo, the beat, the rhythm that is from that.
Starting point is 00:39:06 But, see, Memphis has been a market that's just now, we just now getting out life. Futuristic. You think so? What? We just like right now. I got a disagreement. How are you going to disagree? I'm from D.C.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And I've been loving music out of Memphis. But not, I think it's in the city, been loving Memphis music, Mike. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, D.C. has always reached. D.C. has been a good Memphis market for music. I go with all the time. I'm sorry to the whole DMV. But what I'm saying, no, bro, is no. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I got a record's down, bro. Memphis right now has money bag, yo, has the number one album in the country. Never happened for Memphis before. You know what I mean? Like, we got, you had, you had rest in peace, Dolf, but you got like, Dolf coming out of there going gold, platinum, and independently, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:54 Key Glock, these guys are like, we've never had this type of vibe going. Black youngster was doing his thing. He had a gold one. hang with the joint. You know, you got a, you got the boy who sung with QC from Duke, Duke, Duke, Duce. He did, he just, he's going to,
Starting point is 00:40:09 he's going to, he's going on. He's bringing that old Sam, man. He's got a old Memphis song. I just did one for him for his new project. That's right. We're no way. It's the same thing. We know well. Everybody than dabbling with it, New York dabbling with you. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Everywhere. Yeah, man. This is happened. So it's like we have been sampled, and it's a Like, now we're getting, we're getting the looks. We're getting, you know, you're getting some actual real attraction from Memphis artists that are, like, coming out and really making some noise. You know what I mean? Right now, Juicy Fruit's doing her thing.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I like her. She got that down in the Valley with the Pete Valley intro or whatever. Like, it's a lot of dope talent from Memphis, and there's a lot of, you know, right now, we're just getting a lot of shine right now. We're really getting, you know, we're getting some looks. Speaking of Memphis, who's somebody from Memphis? Rest of Peace, Snoody Wild, too. Rest and rest of Peace, Snooty Wild, too.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah, y'all. All I know is, yeah, y'all. All I know is, yeah, y'all, rest of the piece of your, man, for sure, man. So who was somebody from Memphis that didn't go mainstream that you felt like, if they would have... I'll tell you one. Gangsta black. Gage to black, definitely. Gangsta black.
Starting point is 00:41:17 S-O-U-T-A, South Park. The essence for you can get this is who constantly talking shit. Oh, it's more overload when I pop. Well, that's right. Yeah. That's right there. Right. It's right there.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Just another day up at the time. up at the Thai shop, Chief and Hey, fuck, though. He got that shit that you just, like, do me wrong, test my nuts, that's one slug and your gut. I mean, this is just a rap, like, Lug and some black, man.
Starting point is 00:41:44 That's why I like Lowe's because he does. Turn right third. Tommy Wright's, your motherfucker fucking third. Shout out Tommy Wright. Talk to another day, man. That's one of the coldest niggins. A nigga name.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Little Jack, I think his name was. A groupie bitch. What's the name? I think that's the name. Real nigga Night Out. the bitch on the house digging a mouth. They have we do it in the South. Come on, Mom, come on.
Starting point is 00:42:08 These shit, I used to listen to. Every day, dude. He didn't sound like it was made. Yes, a half night. No cap. I'm like, damn. Yeah. Nah, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Listen, Primro. Marvin. Man, listen, A ball, MJG. Classic. Like, the P. A ball and MJ. That's what I got the P from. They had, they were on the P before gun.
Starting point is 00:42:28 To me. No, to me. You break the bitch college. Listen. They were, ball and J.G was on the P before Ghana to me. They've been on it. You know what I mean? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:37 Like, seriously, right. You know, that P-4, they've been talking about this shit. You got to see. In the Bay Area, too. Yeah, but this did. Man, that shit really came from the Bay Area and Memphis. The Bay and the Memphis, though, bro. Listen, I gotta tell you, man, like, I got to tell you.
Starting point is 00:42:53 You know, try to test her testicle. Yeah. Drew out and all the niggas was on. Them niggas had perms and shit. Everything. All in Vegas for the Bayes. Sellie Shell, all of them, you know what I mean? Yeah, like we definitely, like, it's funny because musically,
Starting point is 00:43:09 they're just certain markets that Memphis, even before the world got on what we got going on now, it's like it was certain markets that you can go tour as a Memphis artist and you know you was going to go get the bag at the bay. Let me ask you this about the Memphis shit, bro. You see the gangster walk in his comeback hard. Yeah. I'm talking about that gangster walking in Japan and shit.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Yeah, yeah. Who's out. Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Shout out to, my boy. Japan ain't going to fuck with it. Japan, listen, I stayed between four.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Chris, we go hard over there to this day. To this day? Yeah, to the day over there. For sure, like, but like, what you just said? You gotta figure out what this shit mean over there, bro. It might probably mean something totally different to them. You got, like, an international. Like, I can see, like, I can see being in the foreign country
Starting point is 00:43:54 and the more people to be, like, this shit come on. I was like, I don't know. Don't ask him that. He's Vietnamese. They don't fuck with each other, bro. They don't fuck with each other, bro. They don't fuck with each other. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:44:12 You know how this shit go right now. You don't know? Yeah. We don't know who. You mad at you? I thought y'all was the same. Y'all. Y'all, look, y'all, they're not true.
Starting point is 00:44:25 You just shot you. That fucked up. Hey, y'all. You shooting you? What was wrong with us? We gotta stop shooting nothing. Hell of down, right? No, it definitely was wrong with us.
Starting point is 00:44:36 But not, what you said about the gangster walking, though, and that jucking. Yeah. You know what the cold part of me, though, is? It's like the coldest niggas who be doing that shit. They kill us. They ain't even, they haven't even found them niggas yet. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:53 They don't even know that the shit that blew back up, bro. There's some niggas who they ain't found that. Yeah. He's going to stop doing that shit 10 years ago. It's a nigga working in the auto zone, and he's fighting. He's like, oh, I just want to show these nigga one time. I'm telling you, but ain't nobody going to fuck with him because he look old at this point. Wait to the niggas who was really out there doing this shit.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Really get them niggins. The ones they can go back up, name. Shout out to, let me see, Miles Jots. He's one of the guys from Memphis that's killing it out of their way, too, man. It's Memphis, a lot of age. G nerd, of course. Lottier Yates You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:45:30 It's a lot of That girl Yeah, Lottia Oh, she's fucking She'll play with Lottia She's gonna cry Hell yeah The other dude too
Starting point is 00:45:37 What's his name Like Chantavius Shantavius or something shit He's an older nigga He'd be really fucking this shit up There's a nigga Do a little Daniel two This hard too
Starting point is 00:45:46 It's a couple of them It's hard And I got something very special Coming in that lane That I, you know I swear I don't want to I do what I'm saying on No you need to be highlight
Starting point is 00:45:56 But listen There's something We're definitely working on something for that culture, and I got some things that I'm gonna talk to you about all camera, though, but like, it's on the way, though. You know what I mean? Some really cool things that we're doing
Starting point is 00:46:08 for the dance community in Memphis because a lot of people don't really highlight this. So some cool things on the way. And speak to what you just did. Speak to keeping shit to yourself sometimes. You know what I mean? Like not speaking on something until it's done. I don't think a lot of people understand
Starting point is 00:46:23 that you step on your blessings a lot of time by letting other people's energy in on your, or what you got going on, because you might say it, oh, yeah, I've got this coming, and then you don't even know the person you're telling can't stand you.
Starting point is 00:46:33 So they hold, as soon as you walk away, please God don't let this nigga accomplish shit. Hey, man, I'm gonna tell you some of the realist advice. Then I'm gonna say, listen. I'm like, why don't you waste a prayer? On me. Listen, hold on, let you not crazy that here. Why would you waste a prayer to tell God?
Starting point is 00:46:50 Don't bless another nigga. Yeah. Hey, man, I'm telling you. You don't get, you don't get, you go get canceled out. They weren't praying to God. That's what the name told me. The best advice I ever got, what's in the Lord?
Starting point is 00:47:07 No, I'm still, I'm good. Tell him, come on. I'm good, come on. I'm good. No, I'm still. What was that? What was that? Let me tell you, the best advice that I have got
Starting point is 00:47:18 was in the liquor store. It was just drunk-ass dude, bro. He was standing in the middle of the liquor stove. He turned around, he looked at me. He said, young nigga. You might as well be happy. They ain't gonna like getting away. He's back.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Yeah, I, I don't know, he's real shit. I didn't ask him for that, but he just left every mouth like, bro, that's real though. No, whatever got him drunk in the liquor store in the middle of the day, he ain't been through some shit I ain't seen yet. He doesn't went through it, he just wanna let you know. Hey, that's where you can get the realest advice
Starting point is 00:47:49 though, the people at the motherfucking liquor store, bro. They ain't got no lie to tell you. I just tell them, man, I like the hush. I hush, man, like I hush. I just hushed it to something happen. You know what I mean? You know, I feel like that's what I do. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Hush, I feel like, I feel like, you know, it'd be too late to hate a lot of times. You know, you got people that don't want to see you be successful, so sometimes it's like, by the time they find out about it, it'll be too late to hate, you know? No, they gotta see me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:48:20 It's a must. Yeah. How they go on the board this shit? Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, they're going to be Even if they're on watching, they're gonna hear about it. Yeah, it feels good. And being an underdog, like, you're on the first and second card.
Starting point is 00:48:30 He's mainly, I'm gonna first, but I'm gonna knock the guy in two rounds. Yeah. I ain't it true. Imagine not liking this show. I know that. I know that. Imagine the nigga not liking this show and everywhere he goes, they watch. Everywhere.
Starting point is 00:48:42 I'm talking about his girl sitting on the couch on her phone with her feet tucked in watching the two-hour episodes. On the phone. And it's on the TV. Man, turn that shit down. All right. And the little boy and they're watching the two. Sneaking. Where do you go?
Starting point is 00:48:56 He's sneaking watch. There you have that sneaking watch. Get what they call him a little brother. Lou Lid. Lou Lid. Come in Lule? He hate that shit. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I definitely like, but it's fun. We'll talk about it, though, but y'all definitely tapped into something that we definitely are working on. Like, I think, like, after playing in Superfly, I had a star on Fox, Atlanta. I played last season of Atlanta. I was in that, I liked what you did on the,
Starting point is 00:49:27 on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, oh, you came in. I like that you came in. Shout out of you, Tasha, yeah, I like that you came in. She's the lady, she the lady who played the mama, the twins mama. Oh, for real?
Starting point is 00:49:41 She directed that one. Oh, good. Oh, wow. Oh, listen, I love, I can't wait, I can't get a college time with you for sure, like, nah, I love that, but like, you know, when you get to plan and that stuff
Starting point is 00:49:53 and you get to be like, okay, Yeah, I got a boss up. I got to be able to, you know. I got to show these folks. I'm here to entertain. Yeah, I'm here to entertainer. Yes. You're not going to tell me.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Just go do your jokes. What the fuck you're talking to? Yeah. I'm going to show you some other shit. You. Yeah. Yeah, I understand. Come on, Joe.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Come on, man. They don't know the drama, though. They don't know the drama. They don't know. They always talk about how dark comedians are. They don't know. We'll flip the whole script. We'll turn this bitch from laughing to crying,
Starting point is 00:50:19 me. I'm talking about it had to flip it. Right. Immediately. What? Immediately. Think if comedians went on stage and really said the dog shit.
Starting point is 00:50:29 That we really want to say. You're crying that bitch. You're a bit in talking about, I didn't know you. I'm going through that. What? You're what? You're a man.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You're a man. You're so crazy. Meet and creepy all hugs. Fuck it. Come here. I don't even want a picture. This is giving me a hug. But that's why I hear to tell them sometimes
Starting point is 00:50:49 at the shows, I be like, listen, this is why in us comedians, we come on stage, then why we do so good, because when y'all energy is at an all-time high, we feed off that energy. Y'all think we don't go through shit. We gotta come up here and forget it,
Starting point is 00:51:02 just to make y'all forget what y'all going through. So y'all energy got to be right so we can give y'all the shit. Maybe that's why most comedians be fucked up. Why? Because we have to delay our problems and shit. People who go, people who don't have to go in front of nobody can just go through their shit from then on.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Then they can just get over that shit. But maybe like, if you pause that shit, that shit just like, it delayed a, whatever to fuck. You know what I'm like? Literally, because you're talking about your life, you're talking about whatever it is you're going through. But you gotta navigate it not to make people be like,
Starting point is 00:51:34 God damn, bro, you need to go see a therapist. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you gotta deliver it to way. I mean, but I'm saying, but to the point where people looking at you, like, bro, I ain't come here to realize how fuck that my shit is through you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:48 But if you're talking about it, like as a comedian, We literally let people laugh at us. Right. Do you understand, if you just walked up to a motherfucker and start laughing at them, they gonna wanna fight? They gonna be gonna get the fuck out of my face. Man, what the fuck is you laughing that, nigga? Well, you, look at you, man.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Make it be like Joe Pesci. That ain't funny to you. Funny the house. Funny how? I don't think you laugh. Clown out, right? I'm gonna clown up. I'm a fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Yeah, I don't want you funny to you. I'm fucking funny. But just thinking you walked up to a minute and be like, you're stupid. Hey man. You stupid as hell. You're stupid. You're stupid.
Starting point is 00:52:31 You stupid. You're stupid. Hey, I'm win. That shit just, that's crazy. There's crazy. Hey, yeah. Look, you don't be done right. Soon as we come, everybody get high street.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I hate to be up there. Niggins don't have no... Is it like that for rappers? Is it like that for rappers but people walk up to you like? People walk up to us no matter where we at. Yell across the mall, Chico! Y'all, that's fucking fuck, niggas! I'm fuck with you!
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's gonna be like that for most rappers, like if more like checking and shit like, because, you know, rappers, you know, niggas. Memphis niggas do that shit. And that's how they show you they love. Exactly. Yeah. Big head, little face, that niggum, man.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Big nose, big, that's what I met Grove Hero for the first time. That's how he was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, he got your head, knocked down, superflip, man, yeah, I'm like, what the fuck, dude, me, he'll talk, you check. Hey, man, immediately checking, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, but he's a good dude, though, I love him. I don't think it like that, though, but I do think it's like when you in between, I like what you, when you're talking about how y'all can take your feelings and
Starting point is 00:53:41 what you're feeling and you can able to compartmentalize those for the moment to be able to use yourself to be used to be able to use your gift, to be able to make somebody else laugh. Even if you inside crime, like, that's a lot of strength, you know what I mean? And people don't show how vulnerable you are. That's why most comedians are,
Starting point is 00:53:58 can go drama and can't be able to act and be able to go serious or whatever and be really good at it. I love Kevin Hart's movie, his came, whatever, I thought that was dope. You know what I thought that was dope, you know? So, you know. Yes, he did.
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Starting point is 00:56:56 That's right. It's all right? Yeah. Man, hey. But people got to understand that they come from a high power. It does. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:04 So I know for a fact, like, when we're going to stay, even when we're going to stay, we're in front of 10, 12,000 people, I'd be like, man, the high power, man. I know he be with me when I be on stage. Yeah. It's coming through you. He's using me. You know what, I ain't gonna lie. I'd be like, I love being you.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Yeah. I always tell you to look. I'm like, use me. You and me just don't miss you. You know what I always said. You just don't miss you. You know what I'm saying? Because if you can't be used, you use list.
Starting point is 00:57:32 That's an involuntary reaction that laugh, man. That ain't something people just doing all the time. You do it all the time. You got to sit your ass down somewhere. Yeah. There's something wrong with you. Look, look. Nice look.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Nice look. Nice look. Nice little ambulance car don't come in. Yeah, that's Tourette's right there. That Tourette's right there, for sure. But I like to ask people this who they've been famous, you know, before the internet, like, what's the difference for you? Like, coming up in a time where if a nigger wanted to talk to,
Starting point is 00:58:02 you had to write your letter or some shit like that, you know? Versus now when people can access you, what's the difference in that time, frankly? Damn, it wasn't that long, girl. I mean, it is. Like, you said she how fast, they said 2000, they said, But between 20? 2000?
Starting point is 00:58:16 That's my space days. My space was out in 2000? No, no, my favorite was out like 0-7 or 8, you know what I mean? Like 0-6, 0-5. No, I'm 2,000. All we had in 2000 was texting. Yeah, there wasn't no texting. You had to have a whole number machine to text there.
Starting point is 00:58:32 You had a call-I-Bee. I had a beep for in 2000. You had a beeper in 2000. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That was the first text. That was the first text. I think like the difference is just like the, um. I think the difference is more like the, the, the, most of the audiences are like a little more fickle, you know what I mean, then they are back in the day.
Starting point is 00:58:55 If you look at the individuals that went and bought a CD or drove to drive to buy your favorite artist's music, I think that's a affectionato to that, there's a connection with their fan and their actual artists, you know what I mean, that they're like, a little bit like in today's marketplace, it's like, okay, well, I can just follow you and see what you're doing, I can stream you, what have you, there's not, there's, sometimes there's not a real connection though, you know what I mean. It do be a real connection sometimes because you look out at the crowd and you'd be like, how in the fuck did these people find me? Yeah. No, I'm saying, I'm not saying you can't connect to because I connect with coffee with Kenfolk every day is inspiration for the situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:34 All I'm saying, because real is real, truth is truth. I'm out of you on IG or of you in the street. But I just think that those that came through the street and was able to press the flesh to those fans and those people like y'all go. out and y'all touch people, y'all perform. Yeah, the access to be able to perform and touch people. Some of these new artists are just simply streaming well
Starting point is 00:59:53 or whatever, and that's what they do, and they don't have that relationship. A lot of those artists that did have that still seem to make a lot of money to this day, you know what I mean, because they have this following, you know what I mean, this engagement with your audience or whatever, but I like both. I think it's cool that you could be able
Starting point is 01:00:10 to just touch millions of people from your house too or whatever. actually like more like this is that's dope too hell yeah it's about the messaging or whatever like and just like I think I think the um the whole game itself is like you know you can have a dope car but sometimes you got you got to get your front wheels align you know what I mean because if it's not aligned the balance gets off I think sometimes like in the music and and it's with the content that the balance is off you know what I mean like you know the people that actually curated music back in the day when you just had MTV and BET and certain things like that
Starting point is 01:00:41 the people that curated that sound that you saw. We've got to bring variety, bring a little more variety because right now it's just, it's just, you're seeing the same copy and paste. You don't think the music game has a variety,
Starting point is 01:00:55 there's a lot of people that stream very well that's not popular to the coming year. No, no doubt, no doubt. I just think we're just talking about the masses. Oh, okay, okay, okay. If you know dope music, like you've got great music, you know what I appreciate.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And like, and you do your, your comedy and you do this, but it's like that's something that you can see that you're passionate about, you can get the conviction in it, you know what I mean, when you're doing it. It's something that you love to do, but it's like the masses, the labels, those individuals, they kind of put out a lot of music that, like, you know, they market, that, like, that they wouldn't even let their own kids, like, listen to, you know what I mean, and just being able to be aware of what you're, what you put in the marketplace and the influence and what's the influence, you know what I mean? I think that's like kind of out the, out the, out the,
Starting point is 01:01:41 right now. I think we've got to just get a little more alignment going on. You know what I mean? I feel like it's more work for artists now because shit, Martin didn't have to worry about showing us what he ate today in 96. But now, you know what I mean? People want to see those things from. They want to see me what you ate today, what you're watching on TV,
Starting point is 01:01:57 what you know what type of toothpaste you use, all that. But you're making that pressure though. That's pressure. That's a lot of pressure though. If you're famous, you're famous, you're famous, right? Like, say for instance you 90's famous. What's my right? You're only famous because we keep seeing you on shit.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Do you know how hard it is to keep getting on shit? In the minus. Now those, heck, nigger, on TV, period, in any year. Right, no. This boy, show. Nigger to get on five different shits in a year as a comedian, nigga. You're doing good. You're being blessed like that.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And after the niggas who is really blessed who, like, nigga got a show, a nigga host of the awards. Yeah. I'm talking about a nigga who's still grinding, check to check TV to TV appearance. Yeah. Appearance, you know what I? Really?
Starting point is 01:02:41 You working? Shit. It's a hustle. It's a hustle. It's a huddle. It's like, all the money come in. They'd be like, nigg, you could be a known nigga with insufficient funds.
Starting point is 01:02:50 You want to talk about a nigger with some pressure. Just imagine you're in a Spike Lee movie, but you gotta wait seven more months. But this shit to come out. Shit, we went through that. Yeah, we went to that. We're waiting for that. I'm talking about that nigger.
Starting point is 01:03:04 No, his life's gonna change. You ain't in this shit. Everybody in the hood go see that shit. Yeah. I've experienced it on the super fly thing, on like, on Atlanta, on Greenleaf, on this Johnson thing I just shot, even this, I got on the Saints and Centers,
Starting point is 01:03:21 I'm on that show. See? You fucking with that, I've been everyone. April 3rd, y'all, make sure y'all watch the new, it's gonna be the last season, the Saints and Senators, it's the sixth season, gonna be on bounce, and I play big eyes in that joint,
Starting point is 01:03:36 so y'all, make sure y'all watch it. See? We're going to read about staying consistent. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, listen, I can tell you, it's like you go through a thousand knows to get to one yes. And that's all that count is the one yes.
Starting point is 01:03:50 And the one yes. Somebody tell you, you know, you just got to figure out two things. You're not getting what you want and how you feel about it. Well, I wish your order was playing right now. You tell you what no means to me. No means next opportunity.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Next opportunity. No means next opportunity. No means next opportunity. That's phone right there, period, bro. You know what? A nigga can't accept no. No means, next opportunity.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Clay, you remember this? A man getting accepted, no. You had the whole head to tell you all this shit. But the niggins don't want to help you. Like, just like I come to you. I see you when you be out there. I see y'all when you be out there. Sometimes some of the stuff they ain't wrote,
Starting point is 01:04:26 they're just, they're in the vibe, they're in the audience, they feel them what they're doing and they're at it. And I'm like, from artists to artists, I'm feeling that, and I'm like, I'm seeing that. No, they say like the Benihana's, open-faced grill shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:38 We'd be cooking that shit right there. Like, what's you want? What's your man? You think a niggins a little weird? Yeah, what? Yeah! Tell your girl open the mouth. You got to go out of the mouth.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Oh! Right at the kisser. For real. This nigga made in an onion volcano. No, nigger asked me the other day. He said, yo man, what's how y'all got rehearsed? That's the part about being familiar, Nick. You mixing up that man?
Starting point is 01:05:07 Ha ha ha. You're like, man, stop at all that guy down, dog. Oh, you fucking with the nigger, with them dicks be doing that shit, put on that time. This is about your girl, motherfucker hit you with that. This nigga, Tampman.
Starting point is 01:05:20 The sport bops all the way. It's your ass. Oh, man. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. It's coming through you, though. It's being used, man. You being used, though, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:29 That's the joy of the comedy, man. It's like, you're being used. I love entertainment, because it's like, I was just saying that I was like, nigg don't even know, like, my music made me cry. make me cry. Yeah. Because I know I'm dead serious about everything
Starting point is 01:05:41 that I don't know what I'm sad. When I ride, I'm so passionate, I just be like, you know how you fuck somebody I'm D.C. If they saw you crying, the nigger think something fucked up to happen in the world. I ain't got no tip. So you're at the light, you're crying.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Hey, you know how crazy enemy you pull up somebody, they're going to dick. Hey, no, DC, what's wrong, bro? You straight, give me a hug, my name. If I pull up to any nigga and he crying, I'm just, I'm letting him pull off first. I don't know what he's thinking. I don't know what he's thinking.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I don't know what he thinks about. You don't put the niggins to make a show farty crowd, I don't know. Oh, my God. When you say, man, who this bitch is a man? See? Oh, look at me! Y'all are great. You're crazy.
Starting point is 01:06:46 You look over, niggins, oh, man. Gee, shit, bro, what the fuck? Oh, man. That's how I'm trying to look at me. Oh, man. I mean, I laugh a lot. Oh, man. Lafter is great, the best medicine, too.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Well, you know what we do the show? You know, the bad thing. part about the show that people don't understand. What was that? It's me and greet. Yeah. Because them are real folk that they be like, fuck this show. We weren't able to go hug them niggins.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Them be the folk that meet with all the stories, all the kids. Brut, real love, boy. I'm talking about we had some of the bedtime of the meeting greet, bro. I'm like, they're the show. They're going to fight it in. Yeah, man. They go wild to. With that hard fans.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I love that, man. How important is a fan base, my nigga. You think that, like, you know? Everything. You know, it's everything. It's everything. Like, that's how, like, that's what I, we were talking about the internet and how what's good about it? It's good about it that, like, you can have your own website, you can have your merch, you can put your post out, and people can cop, and they can shop, and they can wear, and they can share. And that's what they do with my site, coffee with kinfo.com. That's what
Starting point is 01:07:53 they do with multiple hustles. That's what we do with our, with our brand is I think it's dope to be able to have a base of people. It's one thing with someone stream with your music. That's cool. And we got to fix that streaming rates because we're artists are being raped with the straight, with the streaming. This is point, point, point, point. This point, point, point is not cool. And it's not cool. Like, it's not cool at all.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Like, it's like, that's got to change. And things are being put into place to, to, to make that change. But it's like, when your fan base, by, by 144th of a pin, somebody by, by a piece from you or something like that, man, like that, and you get them blurs from your phone
Starting point is 01:08:27 or whatever when you, when you're hitting them, bleak, bleak, bleak, so your fan base absolutely coping from you. Like, bro, that's what, that's one thing about selling CDs back in the day was like your family that came and got something from you. You know what I'm saying? So it's like when someone I copy
Starting point is 01:08:41 your merch and they go online and your fan base, you can be successful individual without everybody knowing you being successful. Be completely under the radar. You know what I mean? And I think that's cool too. You know what I mean? Because I think it's cool to be blessed by the best, but not have to necessarily
Starting point is 01:08:57 be the, you know what I mean? Like you can't move, you can't move around or whatever and all that. I think it's cool to be some blessings. Everything ain't for to be some things that you got going on, you know, is just for you and your family and see how real God is because it's, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:15 It'd be for you like, you know what I mean? So like I just, I dig that about it. My best must be real as hell, bro. I'll be telling God, bro. If you feel like just showing out in my life, go ahead, go on do it. Whatever you want to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I'm talking about just get ridiculous. Yeah. And when you do that. Do what you do big. Lord? Yes. Big God. The biggest, man.
Starting point is 01:09:38 The biggest, man. The biggest. I'm just saying I don't even want nothing. What you already than did is good enough. Man. He's your shepherd. Thou shan not want. What you want?
Starting point is 01:09:50 I don't want nothing. I don't want nothing. He's the shepherd. Mm-hmm. See, a lot of people don't know that. Well. There don't want me no sheep. You think that shit because you're the sheep.
Starting point is 01:10:03 You don't want me no sheep. You don't want to be sheep because they know what a wolf is. Mm-hmm. And they eat sheep. The wolves eat sheep. But if you know that your guard is by the shepherd, why you even stun the wolf? Amen. But sometimes the shepherd isn't guarded by God.
Starting point is 01:10:22 But I say, But if you know that your guard is your shepherd, there shall not be no doubt. You shall not walk. You shall not walk. And I take you as step further. Let's say once she gets lost from the fly, She's been in the wilderness, his fleece has overgrown.
Starting point is 01:10:38 And the very same world going, eat this sheep, they can't get through all of the head. God. All of this, yeah. Because he wouldn't happen if he wasn't for God. I understood. The God that surrounded him in a little fluffy ball to where they're going. He said, that's a choke off of the cotton.
Starting point is 01:11:01 So you said that God, that God, that's what you did this shit. So you said, that God, that God, I got to put you in a little fluffy ball. That's a prayer for you right there. God surround me in a fluffy ball. God, protect me in a little fluffy ball. Just a flippleck. Don't ever leave me straight as long as I stay
Starting point is 01:11:20 within the parameters of my fluffy ball. Not a silk ball. No, that's too smooth. You know what I mean? They'll throw that right over. See, some of y'all want y'all fluffy ball to be gold. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:11:33 with a few diamonds on it. Man, put your name or gross I just take a regular fluffy ball
Starting point is 01:11:41 God, the regular boat good enough for me is the boss I didn't say it had to be a brand new
Starting point is 01:11:52 fluffy ball and if God used it that meant it worked to be for us it's love
Starting point is 01:11:59 it's good If you're fluffy. I don't know what we're saying. It's fluffing. If you want God to put you in a little fluffy ball, awesome. It's fluffy. Join with the brothers and sing it. It's fluffy.
Starting point is 01:12:19 I remember being in a fluffy ball. It's fluffy. I just need one ball. It's fluffy. Even though I came with two balls. God grab me in a little fluffy ball full of blessings. I'm good enough. I don't care who like me.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I like me. I like me so much that I love me. That's the only thing missing. It ain't enough love of yourself. I know. You don't love yourself, because sometimes you fuck yourself. Why would you fuck you? Do you see how this mindset translates if you're fucking?
Starting point is 01:13:15 Because. Because I'm sorry, Lord, I stepped outside. Because. I'm sorry, Lord, I stepped outside that look. But I had to talk to the ones who wouldn't end the Fluffy Ball. Right. Man, the Fluffy Ball is around yourself and God's Bluffy Ball. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:13:48 I said all that to say, let God put you in a little fluffy ball. Sometimes you're going to have to stuff outside your little fuck. Ooh, it's fluff it. All right. It's fluff it. We need to get to that. I always remember. When you step outside your little fluffy ball.
Starting point is 01:14:19 And that long as you get back in there. Like, it's fluffy. Get back in that little fluffy ball with God. Don't stay out there, man. Blessings in that fluffy ball. It's fluffy. Blessings in my fluffy ball. It's fluffy.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Blessing in that fluffy ball. The doors to the church is wide open. Why don't you come in? Whether you come in or out, we're coming outside. Because we're inside God. Fluffy ball. It's flip. It's easy to tell who's not inside.
Starting point is 01:15:07 God's Fluffy Ball. Everybody ain't gonna be in there. You know why? Why? It's Fluffy. That's why. Some people don't like Fluffy. It's fluffy like stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:25 It's fluffy like stuff. Like brother we're saying earlier, it is time to take up the collection. We can just pass those a collection place. Savings people is not free. We need material also. We're going to stay in the blessing building, but you know, we need you to bless our building. We got expenses too.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Expenses too. We need some material. It's flubbed. Tell them about the leap now. To keep the blessings going. It's fluffy. Rain back. Come on. It's fluffy. It's rain.
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Starting point is 01:17:05 Hey man, welcome back to the 85 South Show. We'll be here to keep up here, Sean, and I just want to let you know that as long as you stay inside, God's little fluffing ball. Everything is going to be all right. Everything will be all right. Everything will be all right. It's fluffy. It is fluffy. Independent.
Starting point is 01:17:28 That's what we're on, man. Period, man. I love it. What kind of advice you got for an up-and-coming artist on the independent grand? Seeing with the, you know, back then that we're in the digital age now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I think, like, the, you know, it's going to sound kind of crazy, but it's like you're going to have to, like, have a bag, like, on the music. Like, you know what I mean? Like, the music, it's like, you're not hearing the best, artists in the world when you're hearing the music right now you're hearing the artists that have the
Starting point is 01:18:02 best offers and have the money yeah to be able to market themselves in this day and age and this market in the marketplace so it's like you got some artists that like they're not necessarily like great business people right they might just be a dope-ass talent right you know what I mean but it's like that dope talent in today's marketplace has to have a bag to be able to you know what I mean get to maneuver to be able to finagle the bagel to be able to get the audience that he or she needs to be able to see so it's like like that's the thing like i feel like you know what i mean when you when you're an artist you got to find a way to fund what you're doing you know what i mean and they may by getting another hustle that can be able to you know what i mean the multiple hustle you're going to have to
Starting point is 01:18:52 find something to be able to to to withstand yourself you know what you dig what you think how much you think it caused like him? I just was about that. What's a real realistic number? I heard somebody say 200,000. Shit, I mean, like, and, and. It gets a spend to get, to really break it, yeah. I mean, to be honest, what you guys, I mean,
Starting point is 01:19:12 is, it's, it ain't just for the streaming. I mean, it's like, if you're gonna work radio, if you're gonna work satellite, if you're gonna work terrestrial radio, you're gonna work regular radio, you're gonna work all these cities, you're gonna work rhythmic, you're gonna work urban.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Yeah, these are different individuals that gotta get paid, you know what I'm saying? what you guaranteed is about, was about four to six weeks of whatever it is, you know what I mean. And after you spent that money, that money's been spent. And then it's like, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 01:19:36 I'm not, I'm not here to say that I don't know what the, what the rates is or whatever, like to work your streaming platforms. But, I mean, Steve, want to know that it's like, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:46 we know what going on. And it's like to be able to get that audience in a certain position or whatever, man, it takes money. Dolf, rest of the piece, he spoke about it, $2.50 to a meal. Man, do you know how many,
Starting point is 01:19:56 when I talked about that bus and how we had that bus in Memphis and doing the rap buses and with yo got it and the whole thing man we spent about 400,000 you know what I mean like that that's that summer you know what I mean like it's like the music it costs it's then to even to now you know what I mean it's always about like you know the market is going to take money you know what I mean so you're going to have to have some money with the talent
Starting point is 01:20:19 you're going to have to have something to be able to you know what I mean to market your thing I think that's that's key is like but if it's about by putting together your own, like, incubator system, like your individual staffing yourself, like finding the outsourcing, the individuals that's working for these labels, outsourcing individuals that are doing things
Starting point is 01:20:37 that are in the marketplace that you want to do in, you know what I mean? And putting together that team and like, you know what I mean? But it's going to take some money, though. Like, you know, it's going to take, that's the, it's like the music and then it's the business. And it's like, it's like, it's music. Music could be great, but a hit record.
Starting point is 01:20:53 I'm supposed to see that TV. This is a hit. Yeah. But, uh, yeah. They'd be like, huh? They'd be like, yeah, but, yeah, they want to see. They're not there, they're to, they chase hit records. They're not really making it. They want to see it already happening. If it's already happening, if there's already real traction going on with the record, if it's doing a certain amount of streams per week with an upper trajectory, then, yeah, they're going to look good to somebody else, but you've got to be able to go to the people that are able to help break and to do those particular things. And that thing costs money. You did what I'm saying? Especially if you called them. Yeah, like, if you called them, they're like, what the fuck? Any of you don't.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Even if you don't, they don't want their money. It's just like they're going to want their money, and it's like it's a huge bad to go to the two. And now, if you got the right record and you're able to connect these dots, you're going to collect a lot. You dig what I'm saying? But it is going to take some money to be able to do it. Not saying, hey, somebody can hear you sing and hear you sing online and you sign with Jay Z or sign with somebody. But I'm not saying that. Don't tell you that.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Jake Z is not going to sing you. Or whoever, you know what? with you or whatever or whoever you can get signed with but I think like then it's about the kind of deal you get like you know what I mean like it's like okay do you want to just be an artist on the shelf do you want to be an artist that's following someone else's tutelage do you want to be your own independent brand and today's marketplace is direct to market it's like you can you can you can have fans and you know you can be a volatile marketable you can make some money as an artist and not even necessarily be an artist that's like you know the number one on the charts you know just as long as you're in
Starting point is 01:22:23 touch with your base. So I think this is about building your base, building your fan base, like, you know what I mean? Getting, you know what I mean? You gotta spend some money online all that, but you gotta press the flesh too. So I think that's what this whole show is about, building our fan base, but we targeting
Starting point is 01:22:38 black people who have been forgotten about, the black people who we don't have a TV show that represent us, this is for men who still like, I'm saying, I'm saying. Real niggas who still like Halma Kutja, you feel what I'm saying? Yeah. Type of nigga that gotta pick his, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:52 baby mama up in her car. Sometimes. We know our target. Like, yeah. You might be able to get some sauce. Hold up. I got to go. Give me some of this shit. Get that powder.
Starting point is 01:23:04 What's good? So for all these I don't have that. Like, give them the cheap, the middle version. It's like the cheap version. You never know. You never know. You never know. I want to leave.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Like, it's like, it's record that I put out, like, how did this record. I call respect my fresh right. And I put like, I don't know, maybe like 25. thousand to the record and but it started to pop and it started to work and it was like a really good song and at the time it was like it did enough at that time with that amount of money to be able to get it going at some records or whatever that um the boy fell he fell I had a record called Stunnerframe
Starting point is 01:23:39 fell he just got the record heard the record and just started playing the record didn't even know me he just started playing it because I thought it was dope you know what I mixed it with John Frye over it stank on you I spent some money with that and he just started playing that bitch I'm like okay you know What? What? Man, I just, I don't know. I don't know what part of the game that is.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Niggas just missed this whole mouth with that precise a piece of, niggins fed his bed with that motherfucker. Oh. I missed the whole goddamn. This piece of flimsy as hell. Yeah, I could have told you that, my boy. Oh, shit. I don't want to keep getting these four, man.
Starting point is 01:24:16 He ain't getting dominole, man. They got to kick in at this one. They got to kick in. Yeah, that's it. That's where it's at. man. Order some pizza hug right now. Order some pizza hood right now.
Starting point is 01:24:27 We're gonna have a taste off. This is real. White fraternity. Taste off. Oh. White sororities. Oh. We want pizza.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Call them right now. How about y'all some pizza, you ungrateful. No, that shit ain't gonna come to the mom. Right after me. Man. You get some little seasons, that shit gonna come on win. But that's why I stop ordering pizza off Uber Eats, man.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Uber Eats, man. I was ordering this piece, I was like, what the fuck this place at? Hunt. Bro, Uber Eat, bro. Gas station. Hutz, brother. Yup.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Yeah. Gas station pizza, brother. They got gas station pizza on the fucking Uber Eats, man. They got it in a real bike. I don't fuck with Uber Eats, man. They stole both of my goddamn meal. Niggas on the bike, I've seen the nigga. I'm looking in the hotel, I'm watching them
Starting point is 01:25:17 come on the bike. By he's saying he pulled up, and they were like canceled. Like, take off. He's hauling that. All right down. Hey, do we still got the Uber E sponsor? This was one of them.
Starting point is 01:25:30 No, DoorDash. Oh, that's door. I mean, we make Doodaz. You know, like that. You know what's making sure? You know what I mean? You know what the fuck is doing? Hello fresh.
Starting point is 01:25:41 We're a hell. We want to work with us. We rock with you out. There, there you go. You want to fix this shit. Uber E sent some money over here. We had changed your image over this.
Starting point is 01:25:51 It's okay. change your image all the way around. No, for sure, so. Hey, what's next for you, though? Can folk, like, what you got coming? I think like that hard-ass record you let us here. Oh, yeah, that pressure, you know it. Yeah, that's on the music side.
Starting point is 01:26:06 But like I said, that Saints and Centers season six, that's coming next. On April 3rd, April 3rd, that's dropping. There's a movie I'm in called They Cloned Tyrone. They clone Tyrone. They clones everyone for Jamie Fox, Kiefer Sutherland, John Boyega. That's crazy thing. And I saw Netflix, they started doing the promotions or whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:29 I seen like some of the upcoming movies or whatever. What's this shit about? You can't cloned on the floor? Yeah, Jules Taylor, bro. He did his thing on the last creed, and he's director at his joint. And it's coming out on Netflix. I got a part in this. It's coming out.
Starting point is 01:26:44 It's summer, though. I think they're dropping. It's just summer. It's coming up. That's not. Yeah. And then, like, you got you on the soundtrack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Yeah, and then, like, oh, they got to have it. They got to get it. But that's coming, though, and I think, like, there's some, you know, I got a son with autism, you know what I mean, Jameson, you know what I mean? And he's 11, and there's some things that I'm getting ready to do a docu-series about, you know, my life, you know, his life, you know what I mean, and how it is to be a parent of a child with autism, you know, really special needs, like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:27:20 and really be able to show some light and speak some light into that, you know what I mean? April coming up, autism awareness month. So, like, you know, definitely like into that coming up and just, um, me and my wife, we got a cool podcast, man, that we're about to drive. I'm about to get y'all to come on it because it's going to be like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's name of it again.
Starting point is 01:27:36 It's, it's, it's king folk and queen folk, you know what? Oh, that's love. You know what I mean? And, um, you know, like I said, we've been together 20 years and she, like, won the realist, and it's like, you know, we just, like, you know, we just five. And we had, we had, we had, Sanupe the black love that cron for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We had those awkward conversations on there, like those on popular truths. Like, you know what I mean? And we, like, you know, kind of vibe out or whatever, bro. So that's going on. And then, like, more to, like, coffee with Kenfo. Like, you know, I like doing an inspiration for your situation.
Starting point is 01:28:09 I like to, like, inspire people. I think, like, you know, people. Me too, bro. I love to do that, bro. So I like doing that in the mornings. is in like I want to do more of just being more of a giver or being able to be more of an inspiration. But like that's all I feel like that's my purpose
Starting point is 01:28:25 is to be able to pay it for it, to be able to like use our influence to be able to change like these breakthrough generational curses and be able to like really like, you know, do something out here that's really pushing some real peace and positive, you know what I mean? So, you know, that's what I feel like I stand for and that's what my brand's for.
Starting point is 01:28:41 And it's like, you know, that's why I really appreciate, you know, being able to speak and being able to tap in because I like what you guys are doing. And I think that, you know, it needs to be more that going on, more that balance. So, you know. Drop the social media so they can catch up with you.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Yeah, coffee with kentfolk.com, coffee with kentfolk.com. You know what I mean? Everything right there, coffee with kentfolk.com. And, you know what I'm, man. It's just inspiration for your situation. It's a cup full of positivity with me and my coffee always be black and I'm gonna be.
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