The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - LADY LONDON in the Trap | 85 SOUTH SHOW PODCAST

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Lady London joins the 85 South Show crew for a hilarious and insightful conversation. They discuss their career journeys, including the transition from poetry to rap and the challenges of navigating t...he music industry.   || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:55 I can get out. Hey man, welcome back to the 85 South Show. You did it! Oh, hell yeah. Voted the blackest TV show that's not on TV. The number one radio show that's not on the radio. Well, technically we are on TV if they watch YouTube on their television. The number one TV show that's not a TV station.
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Starting point is 00:04:55 wordsmith and her shoes is connected to her pants and her shoes are connected to her past none other than the world famous miss lady london okay then what's going on y'all how you know you're familiar with her work she had tic-tok and a frenzy hey my son needs to go crazy bro she gave my anthem that time the word play is magnificent right I'm saying magnificent because that's what big daddy came just said he said she's a magnificent lyricist you saw that i did on 12 day came man that that that's o g right now how does that feel to see that when you turn it on and you're getting praises like that from legends so unreal for real i mean cane is just amazing across the board he's just an amazing person but to even be recognized by legends like that
Starting point is 00:05:48 it almost don't feel real all the time you made sway cry yeah you made sway cry That's um. I love him. That's an OG right there. How did we get here? How did all this start? I don't know. This is your shit.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Hell if I know. Damn, you're gonna say my water? I didn't even get no water. That a quick way to give your kiss. Who shit is this then? This ain't this. This ain't cold? This ain't cold?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Mm-mm. How did it start? Um. A simple story. Simple story, was writing poetry from young. Went to school, a lot. Get my master's. I dropped the video online after, during my grad program.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yeah, man. I got a million degrees out here. Hold on, hold on, hold on black woman. Hold up with it, bro. Hold up black woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Women out here don't want to be IG bars and shit. Thank you. Oh, master. Damn nil down this. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so while I was getting my master's, I was dropping, I dropped the video online, me doing poetry. Everybody thought I was rapping, but it was no beat, no nothing. And this shit went viral, like 10 million views, crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:03 This is back 2018, so 10 million views is not as normal as it is right now. So it was crazy. I taught myself how to rap in like three months. I started dropping these things every Monday called Lady Lundays, which was like viral freestyle. And I was gaining like 20, 30,000 followers a month from dropping them every Monday consistently. grew my following from 9,500 to over a million organically. No box. No box.
Starting point is 00:07:29 No box. No box. No bots. Hashtag no bots. You did. And yeah, I'm here. So. So I started from poetry? Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Man, as an artist, as an artist, some of the best artists out there. Do poetry. Yeah. Like, it's not just like do poetry. like they actually sit and write poems. Mm-hmm. I ain't never just sat out and write no goddamn poem. You need you too.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You would be mad good at right now. And I'm great at writing. Yeah, you would be so good. So how your rhyme, is it like a rhyme scheme, or is you just heart-filled? Is it A-B-B-A? Or is it just... No, her cat is crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah, when I was writing poetry, it was very, like, one-dimensional. Teaching myself how to rap was so hard, because I didn't realize how different it is. Like, multisylabic structure, fitting in, where they're supposed to fit in a pocket and, you know, like, it was a lot. Getting on beat at first, I could not rap to save my life. I remember being in the studio, yes, man, I was like, that shit sounds crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like, I'm not catching the beat. Like, clearly you're just not getting it. And then after a while, I'm like, okay, oh, you can only fit nine syllables here. That's why I don't sound right. Okay, okay, now you can start moving like that. Then I just started hearing different pockets and things. So now in my head, I'm like, I feel like you should switch your flow every four bars and so. Whenever I be writing.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Okay, Ms. Cater. You know what I mean? You ain't got no one-dimensional flow. Yeah, I know. Switch it out. She's coming on the track. So who did you go study? Because like you said, it was a fast process.
Starting point is 00:08:59 It's a fast pace. Yeah. Like you said, you did poetry. So music wasn't really like the thing for you. Not at all. You know what I'm saying? Was bestowed upon you. So who did you have to go see?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Who did you have to go study in order for you to be like, okay, this is what it take? I remember when I was first really, like, trying to lock in. I would keep watching over and over Jay-Z and Big El's free style 97 like over and over again I kept watching them spar back and forth and just watching the like not only the cadences in the pockets that they would have but like the subject matter the wittiness of it was so cocky it was so like tit for tat for both of them I don't even know who
Starting point is 00:09:35 really won that that battle that's a tough one because yeah Bigel he's so dynamic with the he never rhymed where you think it's gonna go it always go like completely different bro he was one of the coldest man when you think about Jay you like okay J gun do with Jay do. But Bigel, I'm so ahead of my time. My parents haven't even met yet. I'm like, this thing is talking crazy. Like, this is, this is nuts. Can I give you somebody to go listen to? Oh, time. You fight. Tell me. Right? Yeah. Phil mom Phil mom
Starting point is 00:10:09 I want you to listen to Phil mom Sean Jay I want you listen to both of them Okay You can't sleep on man one of Neither one Because you can hit either track You'd be like oh okay
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah Shout it went harder than he shouted Yeah And ludicrous Oh of course Of course Yeah Luda is just
Starting point is 00:10:24 I just feel like he just had fun Like he don't try And if he tried You know you're over with Yeah But the way he'd be so all over that motherfucker and then Loobie back
Starting point is 00:10:33 Ludacris can wrap his ass and he don't get the credit that he writes as a lyricist yeah as a lyric who are some of your favorite lyricist j kiss um L slick writ um man it's some it's some there's some cold motherfuckers out there I like biggie's storytelling abilities obviously as well um T.I 3,000 mm-hmm mm-hmm Ever know. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Being from here? I mean, I was big boy. You either gonna pick stacks or you're gonna pick Big Boy. Really? Or you're gonna be good tomorrow? Or you're gonna pick out, okay? You're gonna pick somebody. So I was like, oh, we're big boy.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Because I didn't never understand the shoulder pads. As a kid. I'm like, he's not even playing football. He's on top of a school bus with some shoulder pants. But then as I got old, I said. You know he had that shit on. I said, yeah. Oh, first of all, he was fresh as fuck.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. I need to go buy some shoulder pads. You missed the whole concept. I missed the whole thing. He was telling you, I'm rapping from the year 3,000. Nigel, and then I went. When you come to 3,000, a lot of shit ain't supposed to make sense. You do need some big fuzzy pants, snow boots, and some shoulder pads.
Starting point is 00:11:49 That's the type of shit we're doing in 3,000. You niggas ain't made it to 2,000 yet. That's what he was saying. I was wearing church pants and church shoes, bro. I didn't understand that. So when I winked back and heard him, and I was just like, You know what? Now I gotta say, maybe Andre was probably the coldest.
Starting point is 00:12:05 But bit, but bit was like, he's still my favorite? Yeah. I underestimated Andre. Just put it like that. I like three stacks because he always made the shit look easy. You know what I'm saying? Like he'd never had, even on the first shit, if you go listen back to like, get up and get out,
Starting point is 00:12:22 that niggas just came right in and was like, y'all telling me that I need to get out and vote hump. Why ain't nobody black running but crackers? So why I need to register. Yeah. Come on, man. Like, off the rip. And this is his introduction to the rap game.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Talk your talk, man. Salute to the OGs, man. Yeah. Yeah, them are definitely some heavy-headed. So who do you, you know, this couch is famous. Yeah. For manifestation. First of all, God put everything in the place on how it goes to place.
Starting point is 00:12:54 But if you want to sit here, God, listen. When you sit on this. couch and you ask. So who is it an artist that you want to work with? A lot of people I want to work with but top of my list a lot of R&B people is the first to come to mind. Jasmine Sullivan her would love to do something with some Atlanta artists future. Pluto. Pluto. Gunna would be dope. Shit, Drake. A little bit of everybody honestly if I can I was asking you before what's your process what you like you turn the lights off you got to be in there by yourself
Starting point is 00:13:37 I prefer solitude when I'm writing for sure for sure process is different depending on the type of record it is if it's like some turn-up shit it's quick it's you know get it out the way but if it's some like really honing and perspective on things I gotta be out of the way like I prefer sunlight like I thrive in sunlight and oh you daytime record yeah I love daytime recording I actually like I'm building a studio on my house to be the first studio I've ever been in with Windows. You don't just have studios don't have windows. It's like you lose concept of time throughout the whole day. That's the whole point. Yeah, I think so. But I don't really like, as somebody who functions in a daytime, I record from 12 p.m. to 10 p.m. hard out.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I'm not staying in to the wee hours of the morning. So I just like, I like sunlight. I love the sound of water. So if I can be like next to water or something like that, I think it just does something for the frequencies in my brain. You have been trying to mountains? I live next to the mountains for a long time in L.A., so, yeah, I used to have a good view of that. I'm going to ask me that should be so peaceful.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I got to ask you this, because it's like, you're talking about the degrees. A lot of people might not know. You're a real smart-ass girl for real quick. Yeah, on Tuesdays. So what, super cum laude? A summa-cum-cum-cum-lott. Is it summa or super? Summa, you know he didn't go.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I didn't know. I didn't get none of that. They told me key gore. You ain't know a lot of. Is it hard for you to make the switch from from that to, the streets. No, I've always been. Like with the music though?
Starting point is 00:15:03 No. Not at all. Not at all. I was always that kid that was like, I grew up in the hood and was bused out three counties away to go to school in a better area. So I had to have the dynamic to survive. There was no like, like my guidance counselors in high school. I went to high school that was like 3% black and they'll be like, you know, you should
Starting point is 00:15:19 go back and help your people like I was like look down upon in school. But smart as fuck, they couldn't really fuck with me in that. But my behavior was bad and I was just like that kid that had the, the, that kid that the perfect balance of the two, you know, so, no, it's not, it's not different at all. It's just, I want it better for myself, and that's why I push and finish every education that I started, because at the end of the day, that's my fallback, if anything. How many degrees you got? Three.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I have a double, double degree. My bachelor's is a double major in sports medicine and chemistry, and then my master's in global medicine. In global medicine? Mm-hmm. So, bachelor, all that shit, they said about COVID was a good shit. Oh, we could get into that a whole other time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:58 They don't know the difference between public health and public safety, but that's a whole other situation for it. I don't want to ask you, was it hard for you to build you a buzz in New York? No. You know, New York, that's the jungle. When it comes to the music and shit like that, so. I think I got the most support from home, if I'm being honest. I was able to really cultivate an audience there before anywhere else. Of course, there's some haters.
Starting point is 00:16:22 You know, people don't want to see you do well. Right. I don't know. It's going to be rapping. But no, it's, I think we don't have as much as we used to, or I think we're beginning to see more artists emerge from, you know, the New York City metropolitan area in general. But the South Garden has had it for a while now, that we've been trying to, like, take it back in a way. Y'all can't have it. Well, at least share the platform.
Starting point is 00:16:49 You know, y'all have it for a long time. You know what I love about Atlanta specifically is the camaraderie amongst artists. Like, I feel like y'all support each other more out here than up north. In my opinion. Like, y'all get on each other's songs and everybody show love for each other. We're not like that up there. It's a very doggie dog world.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You could change that. There's a lot of legends up there, though. That's a lot. A lot of legends. Yeah. A lot of love. Uh-huh. You could change that.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You could try. You could try. But are you one of those artists that's willing to work with others? Absolutely. I just, I'm not, you know, people kind of like, New York is interesting. Because you can go from being like, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:26 like, yo, we should all work together to like, oh, you're dick-riding. You know, so it's like the quickest little, like, little switch to it. So you got to be careful sometimes. Go, you ride and pause, be. Where, exactly. And then, let's really come over. Yeah. It's such a thin line.
Starting point is 00:17:41 That's how I respect it down here because it's like, hey, bro, come work. And everybody's like, yeah, that's my partner. Everybody's cool. It's all good. Right. Shit. Up north, some people it's cool. Now I'm seeing more like whatever, but you'd be surprised by I talk so dirty about you about, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:55 trying to work together or whatever. You pop it off. You started. You show these motherfuckers like, man, if we don't stay together, everybody going to keep running over. Yeah, we got to be like the Jews, you know? Let's... Unity amongst diversity, you know? Conglomerate. Motherfunk, I got three degrees, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:12 You got to look at it. What's that? What's going on? What's your mean? We're working. We're working. What you're on? What's happened? I want to talk to your house is, like, what's everything? What's the climate? How you're feeling? Everything is amazing. Yeah. We're out here. living our ghetto dreams back on tour selling shows okay producing shows production deals how many shows I got I mean how many cities are we're doing
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Starting point is 00:23:43 That's where we can own everything. You know what I'm saying? Because then you're going to do a move, you're going to do all this. You're working with people. Yeah. That's good. Yeah, and everything's working over here, bro. We're just expanding the empire, man.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And, you know, this is another branch of what it is that we do. In 85 South, we love to get stopped through here and catch us up on what they got going on. Let us know the album coming. Album is coming next year. But right now, my 2B documentary is coming out. I did see the trailer for that. school? October 10th.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Good so. October 10th. It's a three-part series. I saw the family in there too, man. The family gave you a lot of support. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It's been a journey filming it.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It comes out October 10th, three-part series, three episodes, like 45 minutes per hour each. Talking about the makings of this album and how... Were they hesitant with the music at first? You did go to all this school and then turn around and get to the music game. Talk about quit. Hell yeah. I said I wanted to rap. My mom said, rap what?
Starting point is 00:24:44 presence because you try to rap and this on your second degree yeah right uh-huh she was like well you got six months figure it out but i don't think she realized the magnitude that i was reaching at the time i was like man i'm going viral everybody's talking about me it's crazy i'm getting all these followers she wasn't on instagram so she like i don't care about none of that you don't have no money what do you what do you how where you're you gonna you know like when you're gonna do i think this is don't this don't work for me and now you know i think she really really realizes the trajectory that I had. So I got a lot of support now.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Have you had that moment in your career where you're like, damn, I'm really doing this shit? Yeah, every day. Every day I quit, rap and start again. For real. Say that again? So every day I quit and start again. That's different.
Starting point is 00:25:35 That was, that was, that was, see, you do that, you're doing that poetry shit. You just took me there every day. I quit and then I start again. Oh, so that means you wake up with a new drive, buddy? I caught that. That's how you stay in love with it. You gotta approach it like that, man.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I still get excited every time when I get ready to go, grab some, you know, fit for the show or jump on the plane. Everybody still get that bubble gut right before. It's like, damn, this shit's still going on. You're like, thank you, Jesus. They came to see me one more time. Yeah. You got a tree.
Starting point is 00:26:13 They got to do for her. Yeah, they got to go crazy. This is what my teacher told me stopped on. That's why I always feel like, as soon as you get on stage, it's over. It's just like. Yeah, you just get right into character. I always tell them when they call your name, that's like the best part and the worst part. Because it's the best part because you know you got to go to work.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But it's the worst part because you can't tell them. Hold on right quick. I'm going to be right back. Hey, I'm out, bro. What you mean? Hold up right quick. Well, you're about to bring your stupid ass, but he just called your name. Oh, no, boy, it's wrong. You ain't ready for this shit.
Starting point is 00:26:50 It'd be hard for me to sleep after the show. What? After the adrenaline. You'd be up? I'd be up all fucking night, man. I died right to that bed. I bathe in the morning. I feel sorry if we were sleeping that motherfucker after me.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I can't. I'm fucking take two showers. I'm going to change clothes. I'd be, like, that's how I'd be. Like, that's how I do. Like early flights, that's why I'll never really do the early joints if I can avoid it. Because I'd be up all fucking night. So you said to be there at 12 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:27:20 The midday. Three in the morning, fully dressed, sitting there. In the room, all the lights on. Still laughing. What the hell wrong? I'm fucked up, this shit is fucking crazy. I don't know, man. He had out of time.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Man, I should have said that. Fuck. Fucked them up, though. I had them. I had them. I had them right here. What? That's the best reason to take.
Starting point is 00:27:41 6 a.m. shit, you already up. What? I get on that plane. It's about a two-hour window from between like four and six. That's when you really be like, you really break down. Get me out on early flight out of here. My job done.
Starting point is 00:27:56 When I'm walking off the stage, I'm like, it's what we practice for. This is what we work hard for. Are they not entertained? Look at the people. That's what you do. Don't ever get complacent. Don't ever I never feel like you say.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Basically we're saying the same thing. This show over with. Yeah. I got another one tomorrow. I got to regroup. I got to find that same energy. Get right. I got to keep my space right. Because being funny and all that, that's a different emotion.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I must be, I'll be looking at it there. I'd be like a mad scientist. I'm like, tomorrow. I'm going to kill even more. Diabolical. Maybe I should write a joke about it right now. Nazareth. That's something that, man.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's something that, I'm right. No, man, it's good, man, to see you prospering, though. But it's like, the seed is so, you know what I'm saying, sporadic. And then out of the moment, like, you ain't know this was going to happen. And you weren't scared to actually step out the box. You feel what I'm saying? And then like, like, like you said, your mom, like, come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Rap, man. Exactly. You think it's going to be a doctor, man. You've been to quit all that? Who are you rapping to? Because I ain't never heard to rap. I wanted to ask you, when you say you had to teach yourself how to rap, what was their process like just studying I'm a scholar first so it's really easy for me to study anything
Starting point is 00:29:16 like if I really want to do something I'm like huh how does one plus one equal to so I'm looking at my favorite rappers I'm like I'm watching the patterns like oh he does this oh the influx is like that oh they do that okay so I'm just applying practicum to everything and I'm doing and that's literally how I taught myself counting meters everything then I learn how to engineer I At the time, I didn't have no, I didn't have no, I don't have a lot of money to book my sessions and stuff. So as you know, when you book a studio session that pay for the room and you pay for the engineer.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah. Thank you for all that. You're in there, you gotta be about bidding. All I got is this room right now. I got the room rate. The engineer rate costs too fucking much. So I'd be like, okay, I'll get an engineer for like four hours and I'd be over this nigga's shoulder.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Like, what's you doing, what's that? Show me how to do that. Then I developed my own template. Learn how to track engineer myself and a lot of that. You want how to record yourself? Yeah, yeah. A lot of what I learned was birth and struggle,
Starting point is 00:30:17 and I think, but it was nourished later on when I had money. Now when I'm in studio sessions in Paramount and Westlake and $1,500 sessions, the engineer, be like, how the fuck you know that? I'd be like, yeah, no, take that, put that here, but he's like, how the fuck do you even know,
Starting point is 00:30:33 how do you even know the terminology to even direct me to do certain things? You're just an engineer. I shouldn't know what I like to sound. Exactly. Or I'm coming in here guessing every time, like, I hope he knows what he doing. But being able to communicate that efficiently is the point. You know, a lot of artists will go, like, I don't know, I hear like a, it's something
Starting point is 00:30:50 that's making it, you like, that's the reverb, that's the this, that. You know, you got a one-knob filter when to take it out, make it filtered, do this, do that. Go up, two decibels, come down. You got this. And you're like, hey, what that is? They'd be like, see, that's my. Special sauce, so fuck you. Yeah, literally.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, literally. What the fuck did you do. Exactly. So I can put that in the table. You ain't going to be in the bar. Exactly. I hate that. You send your session off and don't have nothing on it.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Strix. Yeah, I can't get a people my source. I got out of here. You didn't tell me that down. What's wrong with you, boy? I want to ask you this, because this is, like, a defining moment, like, as an artist. Who was the first, like, big artist to reach out to you to do some work? You know, I get, it's blurry for me now.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I want to say it was, like, I want to say it was Timberlin. That's so dope. I want to say it was Timblin or Buster. One of the two, for sure. That I was like, I remember the time, I'm thinking of the people that I was like, like, jawdrop when I seen the message. It was either one of them to, easily. Tell me how to Timbley. But I just want to know what happened when you walked into the studio and Timlin was right there.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I never been in a student, but he, no, he reached out to work though. Oh, yeah. Like one of the early on people in my career to reach out for sure. But I've been around to him several times, but I've never, like, been in the studio with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not yet. Ooh. Where? Because you've seen Troy Taylor.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Oh, he's incredible, incredible. His son goes to Howard now, too. I know I'm coming. The only reason why I ever came, because I know I'm not ready yet. I'm ready, but I know you're going to put me through the fire, and I want to be able to fight. Yeah. And when I get there, I want to be like, come on, man. Kyle Red, no, go on here. Get all your special powers.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Let's do it. I know you're fin to send me through it. Let's do it. Amazing. Amazing. Boca coaches. He gets you right. Well, you built this from the ground up, man.
Starting point is 00:32:44 What would you say to people who watching who make me the next up and coming? Shit, fight your fight. Don't worry about nobody around. Keep your eyes on your own paper. Now that's the bar right there. You got to keep your eyes on your own paper. That was a school teacher, but I want them to understand what she just said. Keep your eyes on your own paper.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Be where your feet are. your feet are. The people around you can be your cage or your circle. And that's really, that would be like my mean. Well, damn, Chico Bean, then you know, when she touched like. She's in a bag, bro. She's in a bag, bro. Chigo always got some deep philosophy. Yeah. People around, you're going to either be a cage or be your circle. Yeah. No in between. No in between. What they stand up? What's the us? What's the verse in the Bible, the bad company, corrupts good morals? Yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yes, it does. Yep, so that really be my advice. It's a fucked up game. Even though you do the, and you're in the medicine field, and you get poetry, is there something else that the people might not know
Starting point is 00:33:51 that you love to do, that you may just come out of nowhere and be best at you. What else you got in the bag? I really want to get more into directing, creative direction in general. Mainly for films. I really want to get into, like,
Starting point is 00:34:07 direct my directorial debut is maybe like a short indie just to start off but i really like that's crazy because we finally get into the movie yeah we may be able to work something out yeah which one of those ladies on your team should we reach out to the one in the middle might have a short hell but we may have some independent movies coming about yeah i would love i would love to sit down with that um your voice is common as here i could literally talk to you all day oh thank you i appreciate that I don't see it. I want to know what she's not like she's mad. It's the same? No, motherfucker. The New York come out. Shut my dick, niggins. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:45 What happened to the lady? Yeah. I actually get more and more quiet when I'm mad. Me being mad, I mean, me being quiet is probably the worst case scenario. Yeah, because you got too much the offer, so I need you to say something. Yeah. Like, say something. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Right. Now, you did say the album coming out next year. Yeah. How's it going as far as the process building? sneak little features. Well, you got to give us something. Right. We got some shit coming.
Starting point is 00:35:11 It's not like, it's not exactly where I won it yet. And we were originally going to push for this year. But I'm like, no, I need to make sure my first album, you only get one chance at the first album. So I'm like, I need to, like, curate it properly. So it'll be coming out topping next year sometime. First quarter.
Starting point is 00:35:30 But, yeah, I mean, it's hard. It's hard making an album, but it's fun at the same time. Up and down moments. It's versatile, yet cohesive. So you'll see, like, fun, some turn-up shit, some painful shit, some popping your shit. That's my, my favorite bag is just in my, like, popping shit, witty. I do. I like that when you're talking shit, man, because I told you, anytime I hear you rapping,
Starting point is 00:35:53 I'm always imagining myself as the nigger that she'd be rapping about. Yeah. Sometimes I'm real rude to y'all, though. It don't matter, that shit happens. Because you said you were a trick, but he's a big a trick. Yeah. Now, we got to put that on tape. She did say she's true.
Starting point is 00:36:09 She did. She was a trick. So we're not going to let you leave until you tell us, what you're out here buying niggins in this day? You'll never get to hear about nobody tricking on this. What are you buying these niggas these days? Niggins got to be a bitch. That's for me? Hey, shit off.
Starting point is 00:36:24 That for me? Stop. You didn't. You didn't. I know what you did. What did you? You get on the phone with it pop, bro. You're going to believe me.
Starting point is 00:36:36 A flat, hey, shaw they got him. Look, you see it. E! My band love me. Hey, she fucking went in there, man. What do you find a nigga, man? You got a flex. Like, bro, I want to be wearing this shit.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah, yeah. What do you buying niggins out here, man? I feel like every girl would be tricking. They just be on a low about it. Like, if you really like somebody, I feel like you start spending money on them. Just randomly. You'd be seeing shit out. You like, this would be cute.
Starting point is 00:37:04 This would be cute. I don't, listen, I don't. I don't buy no big, big things. Like I said, I tricked me. He tricked bigger. I don't buy no cars. Damn. I'll get that off the table.
Starting point is 00:37:13 You said that to me because you know I like cars. I don't buy no cars. I don't need a car. I got a cut. No, I'm going to get a cute. I don't know. And another one. And after that, maybe another one.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I don't wear a hat. I don't buy no car. He said, he tricked bigger. So I buy socks and T-shirts. He buys, you know, Shadele back. You know, that's, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. But the credit part about it.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I just want to be it. You guys are selling for socks and t-shirts. Niggins appreciate the shit out of a little trinkets like that. Why women think we're going to be all right with some drugs? Y'all do appreciate it. Y'all like, they're like, they're polo, but they're going to see these, man. They're going to be under the pants. Sometimes women are sneaking buy you gifts from shit that, like, the shit they don't like about you.
Starting point is 00:38:00 So if she bought you, like, socks and drawers, she don't fuck with your socks and drawers. You old Haynes drawers. You probably got some dirty socks and some dirty drops. You can't be laid up with no that thing with the loose elastic. Because that's a sign. If a woman gives you some drawers, that means them utter ones. You've got a whole little or some ducous thing. Nigger living wrong than a month.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Damn, he could have not just packed no drawers out of town. What's going on? You need drawers. Out of everything I saw outside, the draws is what you need. Damn. I buy clothes. I buy some shoes. Well, speaking of the tricking, we got you something.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Oh, yeah. Because we tricked Vibble. We tricked Vibble. You ain't get excited at all. I can't believe how excited you got for that. Did y'all see how to get to me? What? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:44 See, I like really big boxes or really little boxes? Yeah, yeah. We brought the big one. Thank you. What's in here, Jesus? She sat back the whole goddamn time. Ooh. This is perfect.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Okay. Did you know I love gray sweatpants or no? This is my actual, like, I think I literally serve the jail big because I walk around with gray sweatpants every day. Don't ever buy no more. All your great sweatpants got to come from us. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:10 We're sponsored your great sweatpants. Come on, Lou. Thank y'all. I'm officially 85,000. Yeah, you're going to put you in the goal for show. Yeah, you feel. Me a nice little airport fit or something in there. Now, let me ask y'all how.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Y'all saw Atlanta. What I'm saying? But this studio ain't in Atlanta. And I've been traveling all day. I need to call my sister Amaretta and figure out where we're at right now. Because this is all fair like. We all the way, but you closed, though?
Starting point is 00:39:32 She. See you. No, you gotta understand. When we had a studio in Atlanta, motherfuckers were scared to come. Right. Yeah, so. This really most peaceful.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Like, you know, you're like quiet, right? That this shit's so quiet. And this way you can't just pull up. This is invite only type of shit. We know every car. It's like, if you stay in one of them neighborhoods, like you see a little unknown car, I'm on your ass. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Go to a house. Because if not, but your head thinking about breaking in somebody, shit. Get the fuck out around here. You ain't the man, man. Oh yeah. We trapped out of the city for a little minute. Okay. Yeah, but you know.
Starting point is 00:40:06 What? You wouldn't want to come to that. Oh my goodness. I'm glad. I'm more comfortable in the hood. Thank you. I'm not. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Hold on. Hold on. Who the fuck in that? Who that? Hey. Yeah. All right. We good.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Man. That's silly. We love the city, but you know, sometimes you got to move out a little bit. Yeah. Plus, and everybody who in the letter, know that every way you want to go on. I hear that. I hear that.
Starting point is 00:40:35 It's a little ride in a way. I can hear it. I can hear it. Yeah, I hear it. Yeah, I hear it. Get hurt riding in the ambulance. You know the ambulance L and it gets it up. You're hitting.
Starting point is 00:40:47 We definitely appreciate you stopping through here. I appreciate it. I got to come back when the album's out. We're going to have a good time. We'll have a party. Let's do a party. We'll do an album release party. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I love that. We know we got to roll out stage. We'll bring the stage out. That's like we got to put on an A-D-5. That's what I heard about it. Bro, this is real shit. Don't worry about we're going to set you up for you to handle your shit. You did it.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I've been trying to get her to come through here since 2020. And I know some Nigerians, but they're tricking. What the fuck they got to do with that? They're going to be front row. Do y'all right. Why you play so much? What can they follow you and keep up with all the updates and all that? Y'all can follow me everywhere at Lady London.
Starting point is 00:41:33 no underscores, no period. It's exactly how you see, how you hear. Check on my documentary. Yes, we may come out. 10-10. 10-10. My documentary coming out. And I'm also dropping a single that day called 10.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So y'all type it's happening at this. No, these folks got tubing. Everybody watching this tube. Tube it up. Yeah. So y'all, I don't got to tell y'all. It's free, right? Get to it.
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