The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Lil Flip in the Trap | The 85 South Show

Episode Date: January 27, 2023

Legendary Houston Rapper Lil Flip came by the trap and gave us some insight on how he made an impact in the rap game and how he's still able to get features from other artists to this day. || Subscrib...e to 85 SOUTH on YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/The85SouthShow || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 Don't you know their parents know and feel every time your kids can be at their fucking Auntie House in Michigan, and you know when they're fucking up. Yeah, if you get that call, guess what your son did? I knew the motherfucker did something. I knew it. I felt it this morning because I got up and I said, he gonna do something today. He's been gone through it. He's gonna do something.
Starting point is 00:03:08 She'd been going too good. Oh man. Oh, with the mother kids and grown-ups. Yeah. On that shit. And I brought y'all a gift too. I brought y'all some gifts too. Let me give ya.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Shit, we want them. I don't never get nothing. Man, I got you. Oh, Santa Claus. This hit, nigger. Don't get him. Don't get him. Hey, I brought y'all-
Starting point is 00:03:30 Little flipping Santa Claus. Some gas guards, you know what I'm saying? Bring, bring the, I brought you some anxiety products. I need some gas cards. I'd be getting Uber all the time. Gods, man, gods. You know, I know you don't, you don't smoke.
Starting point is 00:03:42 You do the incredible edible, but yeah, we need it. I brought y'all anxiety pop and I brought y'all some of my strain. This Kyle Sun Shine. Okay. Oh, I want some. And I brought you. Oh, I definitely. My holes, they like.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Are you got a ho? Yeah, don't listen to Jack. Make them dress up like, like Mrs. Claude. That's what I. I want to do. We're putting all this shit. I'm about to provide. On the table.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I'm about to be a provider. Hey. Thank you. This, I got you a box. You opened it like. I'm happy, bro. I ain't have no idea. Oh, man, that's lush.
Starting point is 00:04:14 We in there, man. You know. I said I might as well name my screen after my biggest record. So my biggest record is Sunshine. So, you know, give your hose, you know, tell us, tell us, tell us smoke some sunshine. Right, he don't smoke. Give me my weed back, Jack.
Starting point is 00:04:32 He's going to give it to his hose. I don't care nothing about this, right? You don't care about the hose? They're not used to good shit anyway. They fuck with him. Don't worry about it, man. Tell them holes, get, you some. Get shit, Jack.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Don't be coming up in him. Hey, they're going to see the video. I'm like, hey, Carlos took your shit. Yeah, I don't fucking split nothing with Jack. Fuck him. Okay. He cut me out the deal. When he was on, he ain't hit me.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Ah. My, my, my, my, my, my, my, my deal was. I come from the days of studio gangsters. No. You ain't help you guys. Nah. I had nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:03 He lied. With Exotic Pop, I had nothing. I got you. It's in that purple bag. I don't want to show the start till I got my exotic pop, bro. Give me my shit. Get my shit, bro. And you know I can't drink Blue on TV.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I don't want all that criticism. I do. I drink it. Can I get some? Can I get some blue? Yeah. Somebody bring me some ice so we can celebrate Roach. Oh, this ain't lean, though, right?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Nah. Okay. It's just some shit you ain't never had before. That's why it's exited. Yes, yes. Okay. J-O-N, you're trying to make me go off one time? We got flipping hell, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:38 You know, he like the freestyle and shit. They'd be coming on here, they don't be wanting to freestyle flip. That man, I ain't bought it. This ain't the basement. This is the living room. This really a trap house, though. I take your bitch the Waffle House and let her get whatever she need. Told her, I'm gonna be...
Starting point is 00:05:58 in the car, chilling, rolling up some weed. She say, ooh, wee, it's gonna be like a few minutes. I'm gonna chill and let you go because you need to just go up in it. Make sure that you get some fur and some pancakes, but they don't even sell them at the Waffle House, you damn flake. Me and Lil Flip, we might just flip the script
Starting point is 00:06:18 and do some shit you never seen before. Never seen before. Got a bitch that like to clean the floor and clean the floor. And her family, they from Singapore, come on. Used to buy the Lord. Then I maxed out. Then I caught my agent.
Starting point is 00:06:36 She got waxed out. Wax on, like Mr. Miyagi. Sipping Patron. Issa Miyaki. Yeah. I like to smell like that. I don't fuck with a lot of rappers, because when they slide, they like the tail like that.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yeah. This black magic, I cast a spell like that. I'm from the streets. Got them books, I went to yell like that. Whoa. Sips, sir, moving like a snail like that. Come on. They all garbage, garbage peels like that.
Starting point is 00:07:08 They don't care about their balls. They just rap about the balls and the perks. They ain't trying to go to work. I go berserk. I'm a hot boy, but my name ain't turk. Yeah. I shoot like dirt. Turn this bitch to wide earth.
Starting point is 00:07:23 They soft as nerfs. Got the walking activist, sir. And everywhere I go, I got my double cup. They're sipping fake drink. That's why they got bubble guts. They're on the toilet light. Every five minutes, man, ass all of them. I spend a hundred five with my dentist.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Jack fuck with Michael Jackson. I fuck with Michael Blackson. For a nigga from out of town, he wants some pounds. I got a taxing. You come back. Don't be on no bull like you paxing. Yeah. I get the cash.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I go to Dallas and fuck with action. Yeah. And then I'm at the other place, shot him in his other face. Called up my lawyer and told him, throw away the other case. Payed him $5,000. Then I took my niggas out of jail. My soul, it ain't for sale. Smoke that gargamel, that's blue shit.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Slow it down, screw shit. Some of my niggas red and some of my niggas blue shit. Some of my niggas put them on a megabus. Some of my niggas flew shit. Man, I just murder every beat. I guess I rape a root shit. Wow. styling, I told you I'm the king, though, stars in my ceiling, I'm looking up, I feel like
Starting point is 00:08:32 Ringo. Ain't no Chris Ringo, ain't no Santa Claus. These niggins, they're too old. They're going through millipiles. Whoa. Yeah. Hey, tell Santa Claus for Christmas bring some new draws. And don't you ever leave me undertended with Mrs. Claus? Because I'm going crazy, make her my lady. And she'll be sending presents to all her side babies. Don't that sound crazy? The way I just said it. Said it. I'm on pump six.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Six? So let me get seven. Okay. Dollars and two swishers. I'm still that nigger. I get $10 work with gas nigger just cause it's Christmas. Okay. Don't get caught slipping at the stove.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Don't do that. That's one place I never go. You're smart. Real nigger shit. 85 South Show. It's me and Jack and Lil Flip. little flip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. Yeah. You fucking left the kingdom. Yeah. Double-cuffed up like somebody had twins around this bitch. Yeah. Yeah. About time.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I had to call some people that knew some people. Okay. That went to school with somebody. Yeah. That's set by this girl who used to draw real good. Who had moved to Houston in first grade. First grade. Who was best friends.
Starting point is 00:09:56 with your cousins down the street neighbor you know that's how I made this shit happen that's how hard it is to get in touch with the freestyle king little flip yeah what's how you doing man we didn't all been excited that you coming through bro we drank an exotic pop we got to fix your cups though bro yeah jack you drink he's drinking the wrong yeah you got the wrong yeah you got the wrong Come on, man. Come on, man. You know, blacked on business, man.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You know, shout out to my partner. He's not used to. I told you when you first said, he's not used to. I got excited pop for y'all, too. Give me that proper bag. I got cans for y'all, too. I would like some cans. Yeah, and I got popcorn.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I brought gifts for y'all. I appreciate this shit. You don't mind. Yeah. I got gifts, man. Oh, this is right. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I brought gifts, man. Okay. Come on, man. This what I do. My own popcorn. Leprocon. You thought it was that shit. He brought me a pound man.
Starting point is 00:11:02 That's you, my God. That's crazy. I don't never get nothing. Man, this is some heavy-ass popcorn, bro. For real. Exxiety pie cans soda. No, thank you, bro. Not a problem.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Oh, that shit's gonna make it. You know. That shit hitting, bro. We're gonna lay all these items out. You got all this. Hell of man. Yeah, exactly part. You mark it in your ass on right now.
Starting point is 00:11:20 These the new premium cans, the cream soda line, peach cream, vanilla. See, a lot of people, they ain't know, I was, one of the owners of Exotipa. See, some businesses you put your name on and some you get back like a ninja and your yoga flame on. Now look here, we gotta make sure
Starting point is 00:11:35 we got the contact information. We need all this shit at the new studio. That's fine. Here I am. Hell yeah. New face, you see this? These ain't, these are the new shit. This ain't even in the store yet.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah. We need some more space. We putting shit all over the place. It's all good. Welcome to the trap, little for a little. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Thank you. Thank you. This is delicious, man. Black-old. Bro. That freestyle was fucking nuts, man. We was just, man. We was just bullshit.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Both of y'all are so phenomenal. I had like one bar. What you wanted to say? This is what I was going to do. Y'all ready? Yeah. Y'all ready? I'm a shit talker.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I don't know what I'm talking about. Bitch I'm Hersher Walker. Okay, okay. See what I do. I did, I got nothing. Herzs and Walker be saying a whole bunch of bullshit, because look, if we want people to get into this erection, we got to be stars,
Starting point is 00:12:38 we got to be most selective about how we masturbate. You know what I'm saying? Because I feel like people who come outside between 1 a.m. and 6 p.m. are the real problems in social. Man. If you spit in the sky, it'll fall in your act. Everybody knew that. Now one thing we gotta do
Starting point is 00:13:00 is we gotta get these knives off the street. That's the first person to say that shit. We gotta get these knives off the street. What the fucking knew the knives was the problem? Yeah, I saw some shit. Nobody gonna ever admit to voting for that motherfucker though. Nobody. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:13:16 They got Q-tips, but they don't have naval tips. Because there's a lot of things that's the side of your neighbor that need to be, you know what I'm saying, wiped out. that. I'm really, like, I've been watching like the elections and shit real close now. I'm starting to figure out something. What? It's more stupid people in America than we ever thought it was. It's a sign of the time. It's the state of the union. Definitely. Yeah. He's a reflection of what we are right now. I don't think that's a representation of me, but I'm saying as a society, I think stupid people. No, we're smart people. What if we're the dumb ones, though?
Starting point is 00:13:51 Jack, we're the dumb ones if we don't think that they're the smart ones. What if we're just too stupid to really hear what he's really saying? Like, what if we're that dumb? Like, think about all- I think we're the geniuses, bro. We ain't that dumb, you know? You already said you was a genius. I'm talking about me and jazz.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, y'all geniuses too. Look, this is how I look at it. Look at it. Okay, bad. A lot of people brainwash. I don't like nobody that work a 9 to 5. To each is on, right? But what you're doing, you're making your own schedule.
Starting point is 00:14:20 on schedule, you're doing what you gotta do. So my motto was this. I ain't never wanna be the richest person. I just wanted to make more money than the average person. So if you're able to make more money than the average person, get more things and resources free than the average person, you know what I mean, go to bigger and better events and be around famous people than the average person.
Starting point is 00:14:41 If your life is upgraded, she, you're a motherfucking genius because you didn't file victims of just wanting to do what they told you to do. You did that and you thought outside the box, you know what I mean? So, now, you, you was genius. Look, look, what people do? At the fork in the road, what people do? They go left or right, right?
Starting point is 00:15:02 Nick, I go straight. Right. You walk through the fork. Yeah, so that's what y'all doing. Yeah, y'all walk through the fork, man. Y'all are already walking and talking, man. Bad foot. Y'all got views, holes in new shoes.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Yeah. A little bit of bad. So y'all are geniuses. In Spanish, Elhino. El Hino, see, that's some genius shit to know that. I ain't even never know. They're calling each other geniuses. Yeah, that's what we, that's how we spoke.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah, we're supposed to be, we gotta be able to communicate, man. See, that's what I'd be trying to tell people when they ask for advice. It's like, bro, sometimes you just gotta let go. And if you survive the roughest parts of your journey, like the not knowing, the fiction notice, you know, the ups and downs, the trials and tribulations from having and not having, learning how to manage,
Starting point is 00:15:47 your shit. It ain't nothing that no advice nobody can give you. It can like prevent you from having to go through this shit so you can learn it your fucking self. It's kind of like this with me. My dad, like I credit him as one of the smartest people I know. That's why I think a move like I moved. So a lot of shit he taught me when I was young, even my grandpa as well, because he was in the military. Just the things that they taught me when I was young, when I would start seeing it like when I became an adult. and like middle school, and just even elementary, I'd be like, oh, that's that shit he was talking about.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I know what to do, you know what I mean? And so that's how I was able to maneuver in the streets as well as in the music industry because I just believe, you know, you show respect and you get it. Yeah, and you treat people that actually, you know, put their life on the line or he'll put money in your pocket. You don't treat people like licks.
Starting point is 00:16:46 You see what I'm saying? Yeah Like, so every promoter Every artist that fuck with me And buy something for me Nigga, I tell them thank you And I make sure they You straight, you got your pictures
Starting point is 00:16:56 And then I go It's a lot of artists You book them They ain't gonna talk to the promoter Yeah And getting out the truck If the promoter Nigger
Starting point is 00:17:03 $400 short or $100 short Nigger He's driving up Yeah, nigga Yeah, nigga Yeah, but nah The way Big Whits raised me Man, nah man
Starting point is 00:17:13 We ain't gonna let no $400, no nothing like that They remember that shit if you're on your way down, too. Yeah, they remember. When you was up there asking for that $75,000, and now you back here at $7,500. Hey, they remember. And they'll tell you, they'd be like, hey, nigger,
Starting point is 00:17:28 you gave me a discount last time. Nick, guess what, I'm on now? You feel me? It's people, I didn't hear up when they was in fucked up situations. Right. And gave them discounts and seen them years later. Nick, like, look, nigga, you see this Maserati, that song we did, nigga, this all I got it.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And that's a true story. It's a nigga in Indiana. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I did a verse with it. Next time I saw him, nigga, he bounced up. And he's like, nah, nigga, I can pay you $20 for you, you know what I mean? And then you'd be like, bro, you're funny. It's 50, nah, but I take the 20.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's 50 now. Yeah, we're 50. For real. Nah, but that shit, it is a good feeling though to know that you bring money through that time. When you come through, you're a big event and people gonna come and support. And spread it around. Spread that shit around.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Spread that around. Like who? That's value. Yeah, who to bring the DJ. And instead of just paying the DJ a flat fee, nigger, I empower them on some shit like back in the days and like currently, like instead of me just being like,
Starting point is 00:18:27 hey, let me just pay you 500 or, you know, $800 to DJ for two hours or three hours. Nah, nigga, we're fin to go in on the dough. Nigga, I'm fin to give you a percentage of the dough. So instead of you eating, you know, $500, nigga, you can make you three, four bands, you know. Come back two weeks and get this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:18:45 yourself. Because when a DJ or a person, like, helps blow your record up and get everybody just fucking with your shit, nigga, that's, that's priceless. So I always believe in showing love to the people who help get me when I met, nigga. I'm a, hey, I'm a show you. I appreciate it, nigga. There's some people that just heard what you just said, and they're trying to understand exactly what you mean when you say that. Now, you, are you doing that with any DJs, or this is DJs that have the imprint inside whatever the... These are people who I have relationships with and people that I notice that deserve the opportunity, you know, because as we travel, you know, we see people grow. You go to a town and somebody just the guy that
Starting point is 00:19:26 goes to the store. And then you come a year later and now he got his own show. And come a year later, now he's the PD. And you're like, damn, you know what I mean? So I watch these people evolve and I study energy. And if they're energy right, then, you know, then I'll take the next step. Hey, let's make some money together. You know what I mean? But I'm going to treat you like a boss. go treat you like, hey, let me just get your $500 and get you out the way. Nah, get a piece of this dough. You know what I'm saying? And bring some artists that want some verses and get your cut.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And, nigga, I see you in eight months and we go repeat. I see what you do. Okay. And eat. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because DJs, no niggas that's trying to get on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:04 And the cycle continues. But I actually post and promote the records that I do with these artists. See, some artists, they'll do the verse, take your money, won't even clear the record, have the shit taking down, nah, I don't play them games. I believe in doing great business, not good business, great business. So, nah, nigga, I'm gonna help, I'm gonna post this shit. You know what I'm saying? Nick, we go, yeah, I want you to win, nigga.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You know what I'm saying? I want you to win. And I'm gonna give you guidance and direction on what you can do to make the artwork look better, the video, because I care about the quality. You know what I'm saying? Like, especially you're gonna put my name on it with you. Like, we gotta be looking like.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Money. Where you get this game from, bro? Everybody. Everybody. I study everybody. DJ Screw. You know what I'm saying? All the moguls from my city.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah. Everybody. I'm a sponge. My parents, my household, everybody. Let's give me one of your DJ Screw story. Man, one of my favorite ones, man, was like we was pretty much, I actually had got out of I got out of school, actually. I had got out of school, and this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I got out of school, and so he's like, man, you can drive the Impala, so I'm driving the Impala, whatever, and we freestyling, right? But screw don't really rap like that, you know what I mean? He's DJ. So we freestyling, we, you know, doing our thing. And it's so funny, we pull up to this spot called Timmy Chans, and so I get out the car, he said, I'm gonna drive, I'm a drive. So I go in and go, I go, go,
Starting point is 00:21:44 use the restroom and I come back out. He's driving. Well, he's in the driver's seat, right? And he's like, man, I'm gonna go use the restroom. Man, he got out the car and he forgot to put the bitch in a park. Man, that motherfucker started rolling, bro. I had to run around that bitch and get it.
Starting point is 00:22:01 It was just so funny to me, though. But that's one of the memories that I never told nobody because I usually tell him about me pulling up and him having the backseat full of pulled up, knee high. sodas and each one of them I taste it was like straight mud in the motherfuckers. So that was one of my
Starting point is 00:22:21 favorite moments but I ain't ever told that one. Hold on. Wait, wait. I always got confused on the mud thing. What does that mean when what is mud? Mud. It's just like look like his shirt. Pillars show him your shirt.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Show him your shirt. Sheldon your shirt. Mud babies. But mud is just basically when you when you pull up strong, when it's, you know, heavy, it's muddy, Texas. Oh, gee, wasn't outside? Yeah, so you drinking some mud, you know, when it's, you know, when it's, he don't even know.
Starting point is 00:22:57 He used to have mud slides, obviously. The fuck is you talk about, bro. Man. That's why he can't bring this nigga around nobody, bruh. Welcome back to the 85 shop show. Voted. show where a black woman who is head of household pays all the bills. Hey.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Shout out to paint. Little flip, man, what's been going on, man? Tell me how all this shit started. Man, it all started back being born in my family. Yeah. Man, musical background, church, piano, drum. So you born in my family, you're doing music. It wasn't no, you know what I mean? Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Right up. Look at the devil. We were a duke. Take six. Fix the goddamn lights. Let me see my old phone pillar. DeMille, you got... Okay, there we go. Yeah, we're good.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Never mind. I don't know what the fuck happened. No, let me see it right quick. You're good. Not the other one. DeMille got it. Jack, you saw that? Jack, you saw that?
Starting point is 00:24:13 No, I missed it. Where ever? You didn't see that? He says... No. As soon as he said that... Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Talk about church. You know how it go. When he said, thank God. On the spot. And that's shit real. Them signs that you had to pay attention to. I see what you said. You would have think it was just the light going out.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Hell no. The message is so much clearer than that, Jack. You're in tune, bro. He said, look at the devil, and it was no more. It was nothing but red lights. That's what I, that's what I'm saying. Why the red lights ain't go out? Man.
Starting point is 00:24:47 You ain't see that? That was some Santa Claus, Satan Claus shit. See, man, that's how you know that shit real, bro. But that's just God letting you know he and him protecting us from all type of bullshit, you know? It's nothing. We're ready. We're back on deck. Back on deck.
Starting point is 00:25:05 We back on deck. Joe, what we're looking like? Back on deck. back on deck all right man the flip talk your shit you want me to talk you want me to rap shit that's just whatever you want to do I had a question bring the beat up you got a question ask it this is my confession let's talk about the pamphals the panthers and I can give you a lot of answers and tell you how I used to move militant I still move militant they out stranded like Gilligan I'm
Starting point is 00:25:40 I move a certain way. I groove a certain way. Yeah. Max Payne, two guns, I shoot a certain way. Yeah. I sip a certain way. Hey. Take trips a certain way.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Bus clips a certain way. All right? Thriller, iller, rest of piece to Jay Diller, I'm about my scrella. And I pass the flow to you. Carlos Smiller, walking smoother than a panther. Huh. Black, it's a fact.
Starting point is 00:26:07 With the fish, take a sip of a good-ass drink. Exotic Pop, you think that it ain't black on. Let me go check my black phone and make sure got a nice black woman at my black home. That is black on once again. Tell a friend about the shit we're about to do again. Grab a booted rubber, coocha squeeze a titty. And then look in the face and say she's pretty.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Hold up, I'm sitting game all up in your ear. I've been kicking it up in your face for about a year. I hope that everything's straight and good at your house. I hope you get a side tube put up in your mouth I hope that you get a new bike for Christmas I hope you and your baby mama start separating your differences so y'all can parent and keep it apparent
Starting point is 00:26:53 that y'all are not good parent I don't want to talk no shit because I don't want nobody to get in their feelings in this bitch, see when I be freestyling I keep it real and it's gonna be the last time like a last meal or supper because I'm a bad motherfucker We're walking through this bitch Black O'm C. DeLorese Tuck.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Hold on, hey. See, y'all be spitting them facts. Facts. And white people can't stand that, but they don't know. That I know, they fucking with the show. And this is the 85 South Show, and my name is Carlos. It's Love Flip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Had to spit it one time. One time. Hey, spit your shit, because, nigger, that was mine. Hey, I spit my shit, bring the beat up. H-Town Air Force Ones, I kicked my feet up. One time. Call a bad bitch, taller, roll, the weeds. It's murder, I inked a Vita, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I keep a motherfuck anxiety pop cup. I make the fucking body rock the truck. I did that shit for Fat Pat. Look, I go to Vegas and I play black jab, but look, the roulette wheel, I got roulette skills. Double zero, zero are the regular one trill. Yeah, P.M.C, we miss my nigga. What up, Bond B.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I get the cash. I had the bulletproof to Hon V. I think I master P. Master P, they in my room with the master key, but the double dutch twins, they wanna fuck in the beans. And I'm shitin' on these niggas, I don't need no de P's. Yeah, nigga, I'm like Hank Gary, give me that whole bag, that bank staring.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Like you want all of this, like all of this right now? I told her, bitch pipe dine. Yes, sir. You from Mississippi. You from ATL. At the age of 15, I had a grave V12. Damn. I got the cash and then I dip out.
Starting point is 00:28:40 My car go 220, I took the chip out. I do a show I bring the Bloods and the Cripside. She come and do my podcast, her nipslipside. I don't censor it. I don't mention it. I just throw a concert and then convention it. Exxiety pop, here's the punchline. Got my own strain, gas guard, sunshine.
Starting point is 00:29:01 85 South Show, I-4-5 is what I used to roll. We blow in go. Yeah. Yeah, let's have we living. He can't see me. He can't see me. Oh, I'm sorry about that. You can't see me, though.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I'm a shit talker. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm Hershiel Walker. Just stick to the script. He can't see you, man. He used to see me, though. No, bro. He used to see me, though.
Starting point is 00:29:27 No, bro. He used to see me. When I used to go to this is 50. He can't see on that side no more, bro. He used to see me better, bro. He got candy in that at now. Ah, he made them edibles, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:37 It's them edibles, bro. It's a candy eyeball. It's a gumball. He chew it every night before he go to bed and put another one. Shit be changing, bro. Life be lifeing. Straight up. I'm a nigga.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Life be life. Hey, that's a shirt. I just give me my 20%. That's why whenever you think that I'm such a bad person because I take that nigga jacket everywhere he ain't supposed to be, man. Come on now. Yeah. I'm a shit talker.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm Hershaw Walker. I'm a shit talking. But I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm Hersch Walker. I say dumb shit all the time. And I love to go in the winds like a wind shine. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I don't be telling no niggas, but I dropped dine. You know, that's... Don't drop the dime, man. Jack, relax, man. Relax, man. Relax, bro. Relax, bro. Don't drop the dime, though.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Jack, just relax. Don't drop the dime. You saw, I said I'm gonna be stitching, but I dropped the dime I dropped the dime like a real dime on the floor. Don't drop no soap. Oh, you just don't trap your eye and dropped you the family. Was that a metaphor? That's what I meant because I don't go with her no more.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Oh, well, you need to be more. I don't go with her no more. I got to, yeah, I've got, I'm working on my double entendres. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient. Still using yesterday's tech, upgrade to the ThinkPad X1 Carbon, ultra-light, ultra-powerful, and built for serious productivity with Intel core ultra-processors, blazing speed, and AI-powered performance
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Starting point is 00:31:32 all on one device. For My Heart Podcasts in Rococo Punch, this is The Turning, River Road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to ten girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get... so sucked in by this man and in thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor. But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And then he became the prey. Listen to The Turning River Road on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you, stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The OGs of Uncensored Motherhood are back and badder than ever. I'm Erica. And I'm Mila. And we're the host of the Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast, brought to you by the Black Effect Podcast Network every Wednesday. Historically, men talk too much.
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Starting point is 00:34:04 My oldest daughter, her first day in ninth grade, and I called to ask how I was going. She was like, oh, dad, all they were doing was talking about your thing in class. I ruined my baby's first day of high school. And slumflower. What turns me on is when a man sends me money. Like, I feel the moisture between my legs when a man sends me money. I'm like, oh, my God, it's go time.
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Starting point is 00:34:59 Listen to Vine on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Yeah, but you got to get to the, you got to stay like, yeah, get the basics down first. You see, I need y'all help with this right there because you're the freestyle king. And, you know, you're the freestyle prince and whatnot. I wouldn't say Prince. That's like, just, I'm a nigga from another village who'll be doing this shit over there while I stay it. We can brand this. I came back to the woods doing this shit.
Starting point is 00:35:28 We can steal this right now. I just walked up. Okay. It was like, the music, sir. Where did you get it? I just got back from the UK. Exactly. A little bit chat log.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Come here, bring him over here. I want to speak to him. I want to speak to him now. So if I, but if I want to become a great freestyle, what I got to do, like, how to stop lying. Okay, stop line. It worked better when you tell the truth. Yeah, but not, not.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Unless you, you got to get good at it, but like about 90%. It's about to happen. 90% of these rappers line. You got a lie. That's when you get good at rapping. So you got to, man, be creative. And sometimes you can rap about things that you don't have, but consider it wishful thinking,
Starting point is 00:36:14 but make sure you do get it at some point in your life, so it won't be a lie. So sometimes you speak shit. Manifest. Manifest, but. Be creative. Rap 99% about what you got and manifest 1%. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:28 It worked better when you keep it inside those. You can't see? You can't see? You can't see? Oh, I'm sorry. Somebody. Okay. I told you, man.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I apologize. I had to put it on the other side. You don't have to keep trying, bro. Hey, just say Jack, I'm dapping you. Say, Jack, I'm dapping you. Okay, so I gotta telegraph the debt. You gotta... That's like me trying to telegraph my wraps.
Starting point is 00:36:49 No. I got you. I'm dapping you. See? Well, why we gotta, why you do the two hands? That nigga secure. He got a body guy. go out with his dab. The niggas shackled. I tried to take it. I was trying to make it
Starting point is 00:37:02 connect. We don't salute. Let's salute. All right. Cool. From the blind side. I'm trying to tell you. That's my bro though, man. He always been the same, man. He changed up on me. He did. No, I did. No, I did. He kept saying I changed up on him. He keeps saying, I never changed on Carlos. I always told him what it was when it was like that. I never made him no false promises. Ask him what I changed up on right now. Now. What you changed? That money changed.
Starting point is 00:37:31 That money changed, man. Ask him what he asked me for when the money changed me. I ain't never asked you for nothing. So how did the money change me? Jack. How did the money change? This nigger used to goddamn be sick, call me and sell me so many dreams. Like, I ain't got the money yet, man. Keep the shit coming.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I ain't got the money yet. Keep the shit coming. Keep what coming? I had them a straight direct plug on some. Hey, Carlos was writing me some of the dope. Some of the dopeish shit. You're over talking to witness. I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yep. Yeah. It's what happened. Order, order. It's not like I were lying, didn't it? Yeah. Anybody change on you, man. Did y'all talk about this and patch this up?
Starting point is 00:38:08 Oh. Pass this shit up, man. We never did. Hey, every time I try to take a meeting with the nigga, he always does. I don't want to have a meeting. No. You over it? I'm over.
Starting point is 00:38:18 No, he's not. Well, we ain't going to talk about it no more. He's not over it. I'm not over it. I think he had the vent, bro. Is this good enough for you? Yes. I just wanted you to know that I still know.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Hey, Carlo, can I say this money gonna change you? I just want to say this land. I'm just saying, so when you get it again, I don't want it to change you this time. No, no, I didn't change the land thing. I never got it. He lied. You know how you, when you say it inside of freestyle.
Starting point is 00:38:41 He didn't have two divorces. He had a Ferrari, bro. This nigga had a Ferrari. You know, you had a rooster in your Ferrari. That was a nigger Ferrari I had. That was just, on a video. If you go back and look at the video, I wouldn't even drive in the motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Guess what? Guess what, guess what? I was edited next to the Farrar. He didn't go a solution, look. I got a group called the Solution brothers. Look, look, here go to, here go Solution. Hey, man, can you imagine, from this date, from the, look.
Starting point is 00:39:08 You imagine the Nicar, telling you he ain't got the money. Man. That niggins, yeah. Hey, listen, can I tell you something? That nigga called me from the Farrar. He ain't got the money yet. That is true, that is true, listen. That is true, that is true.
Starting point is 00:39:24 That's true. But check this out. The money inside of the Ferrari because it were $5,000 in the Trump. Oh, shit. But it wasn't my $5,000. It was for the video. It was for the show.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Perception is what? Reality. If you put that shit out there, people believe that's what's really going on. I was telling him the truth. I lied of these holes, but I was telling him the truth. That's my nigger. Jack, bray.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I never had it. Right, you funny as hell, Jack. This is a solution, Jack. Hey, man. Every time you see the nigger, man, just like paying him a toll fee. Like, just every time you see it, you know you go running to him, just do say,
Starting point is 00:40:05 hey, hey, it don't matter what it. No, I don't want no money from Jack. I cannot accept. Get a nigga a gift card. I can't accept nothing from that. You can't accept that weed? You want to take the weed from him? No, this is way better than you.
Starting point is 00:40:16 No, you want this from me. I tell him I love him every day. I would much rather be able to bring this shit up whenever the fuck I want to as opposed to. He didn't know it hurt me. Straight up. He'll do anything to hurt me. This is better than that.
Starting point is 00:40:28 He'll do anything to hurt me, bro. This is, yes. He won't embarrass. He's going to like his way to embarrass me. He just said it's up, it's up, it's up. He's always, what the young people say is always up. It's up, yeah. But that's cool.
Starting point is 00:40:41 At least he gets you. A hundred years later. Yeah. Well, that's cool. Yeah. Don't, don't listen to that. He flexed on me all the time. The nigger signed me just to have one up on me.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Right. Hey. At least y'all can talk about it And I just found out about it I got a great laugh out of it You know what I'm saying Yeah man just get that nigga weed Occasionally man I just
Starting point is 00:41:02 I just don't keep doing that shit Just like you know Don't say nothing And don't say nothing And don't say nothing Just he gonna keep it You feel me? Yeah I don't want to
Starting point is 00:41:11 From Jack This shit is way better I'm trying to figure I just get a nigga I just want them to love me man Brob watch what you say I'm sorry watch what you say I'm sorry man
Starting point is 00:41:20 I never meant to hurt you bro If I could go back and put the video on and show you that that wasn't my car. Jack. That wasn't my money. I borrowed that money to put inside that car on that video, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:32 This is why nobody invites you nowhere. Stop. Stop. Damn, Gina. He mean this. Jack, stop it, bro. I'm trying to help you. Welcome back to Jack Fix my life.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yes, yes, yes. Well, this the one I mean. I'm just playing. It was jokes, y'all. The resolution is just, yes. It's up and it's stuck. God gonna work it out though.
Starting point is 00:41:58 God got us out. He do. Like I always say, bro, God got me wrapped in a little fluffy ball of blessings. Hmm. Just to take a moment and reflect on this year, a little flip and where we been. The shit we made it passed.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I thought the shit was over with when the pandemic had. I gotta use this voice because it's more dramatic. because it's more dramatic. I thought this shit was over with. Yeah, it was crazy. Couldn't even go outside, bro. Prisoner. Niggas was on house arrest.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Mm. And did everything there is to do, then played board games. Yep. I got a board game called Trill, I believe. During the pandemic, we was hustling, making, like, music, and doing stuff, dropping albums.
Starting point is 00:42:49 But hell, I was playing Monopoly so much. I partnered up with this company, Carl Trellopoli. It's about H-Town, and, you know, you roll a dice, and you make money, and you go around. But, yeah, I ended up partnering up with them. And I bought, like, two more cars, like, well, about total of four. But when the pandemic first hit, like, I ended up buying two cars off a board game.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Like, we sold so many. I bought, like, two cars in the pandemic off the board game. Carl Triloply. But, yeah, the pandemic, that was crazy, man. You always been on some entrepreneur shit. You still want to do, didn't you mention you wanted to do some video games and all that shit too? Yeah, I did a couple video games with a couple people. Death Jam?
Starting point is 00:43:33 Yep. That shit, man, you was who was a woman fucker's ass on that. Man, yeah. Yeah, man. What was your superpower on that? I forgot. That nigga just getting mad and go crazy and walked the shit out of you and smash your face all up against the wall. And then the nigga had a move where he'll goddamn grab me and run all up you back and kick the shit out of you.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And then the nigger be way to fuck up there and come back. Fucked niggas up. Drop the knee all in your fucking face. Then once he beat you, the nigger talked shit for a long time and just be talking shit. And I'm laughing and shit. Then you got about eight seconds to decide, do you want this nigga to whoop your ass again? And then it seemed like the second time you fight him is harder because he, like, remember the shit you did in the first fight.
Starting point is 00:44:14 That's crazy. You remember that? Like, I, man. Bray, it's like Def Jam, new to type. I don't know. That game was hard as fuck. You never beat a nigga. the first time on this.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Yeah. That was a nice experience, man. You've been all looking through the game, right? Did you ever think that you would be on a video game, bro? That wasn't one of my things I, nah, a lot of things in my life, I, like, have visions, and then God'll bless me and it happened.
Starting point is 00:44:40 But video game, that wasn't nothing I was thinking about back then. Do you remember the first time somebody that came up, hey, man, I use you every time on death jam Vandetta? Yeah, I was on fight for New York. But they was, yeah, people used to come to me and be like, man, you're hard to beat, man. Yeah, you, yeah. You would give them the cheat code and tell them how to beat them? No, I didn't give them no code.
Starting point is 00:45:02 They would just tell me I was a hard character. I wasn't, you know, weak, you know what I mean? Some motherfuckers, it was just. Easy, right through them. Yeah, some of them motherfuckers just, with the shit out you the first couple times. It's just like they knew. They wanted you to see how much about this game your ass didn't know. You're right.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Like, when you, when the game came out, was you critiquing it and you were saying to yourself, hey, I wish they would have made me like this or gave me this right here or why they didn't do that? The only thing that I didn't like was that, and I should have just did one voice thing, but they were, they was like, um, make a noise that you want to make before you like, I guess. Your signature sound. Yeah, signature move or whatever. And I did one where I'm like, ah. And then I did one when I'm like, Clover G's.
Starting point is 00:45:52 That's the one I wanted them. I wanted to use the Clover G's one. But when the game came out, they just used the aw. And I'm like, man, I shouldn't even said the ah shit, man. You think it was the way you said Clover G's? He's like, I don't give a damn what it is. That's my company. And I ain't made same.
Starting point is 00:46:09 That's why they ain't big a day one of bread. Yeah. I don't know. But I learned a value. But listen, don't get too many options. I should have just did Clover G's and left with that. Left it with that. Less and lessen line.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Crash and burn. Pay attention, Jack. That was brilliant. But I still earned. There you go. Yeah. That was brilliant. But that was great, man.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I love it. So to all the people, the game tech guys, man, that want to do some business, man. Hit me, a little flip 713 DM me. And I got a lot of ideas for some video games, and I'm ready to, like, change the world and not only put our content for adults, but put our content for the kids.
Starting point is 00:46:48 content for the kids like in the form of raps and stuff like that so I'm gonna be be doing some stuff for the kids and I'm gonna need you and your freestyle skills I'm gonna need you I'm gonna do I was just about your Walker how would you teach him how to rap nah it's easy man um he man he he witty and funny like he he improv out the top of his head give me one jack all right your whole style is ridiculous I can tell you the bitch cuz you tickle it It's like, that's like, he got like some 19... It was in my delivery.
Starting point is 00:47:24 80s. It was like from back. I say 89. 89. 89. Yeah, he said you back in, you know, it's a little dated, but man, I, sometimes the best way to freestyle and it's like not even trying, right? You just be you and you just go with it and just fuck with it.
Starting point is 00:47:42 You go fuck up, but the more you do it, you know, you go be cool. The better that shit's self. Yeah. You just practice. You gotta find yourself. Let me do it again. Find yourself, you know. Hit the bitch, in the job.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Tell the hole, don't break the law. Tell the hole, this shit is real. No, you're not listening to the beat, Jack. Are you rapping to the beat or are you rapping to the feet? He rapping to the sound of the beat. Rappen to the beat. Can you hear it? Hit the bitch, in the job.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Tell the hole, don't break the loud. Tell the whole, shit. Oh, I think I figured it out. You tone deaf. Okay. But you just got to figure out what you want to do. I just gotta figure out what you wanna say, man. I mean, you know, but that was cool.
Starting point is 00:48:21 You see how you said hit a bitch, and it didn't really, it didn't really hit the mark, because we know you ain't never hit a bitch before. You see how you're lying? See how the line don't work for everybody? It wasn't even believable. Because you sped past it, like we weren't gonna hit a bitch, win.
Starting point is 00:48:37 You're nice, you better, tell what you really do. This is the nice guy. My girl, everything. Tell a girl you wanna swan. Tell a girl you wanna do this, tell a girl you wanna do that. Tell a girl you want to eat the cat. You're telling the motherfucking too much.
Starting point is 00:48:50 You're telling too much. That's what I see? Yeah, you're, I'm glad you get to get to hit this shit from somebody else other than me. But sometimes it's cool to do it like four times and then, you know, go to the next. I get it. It was, you know what? There's no wrong or right way to do anything. They're going to wear it.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I see what you're doing. We'll just bunching in. Okay. I thought you were hating it first. I ain't going to even more. Try a different style only, Jay. Slow it down. Slow it down a little.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Try to find their pocket. There we go. Trying to find the pocket. I want to get like a bucket and sock it and let them know that I ain't going to jump. Okay, use better words, but that same tempo. Use better words. That's all you need is better words.
Starting point is 00:49:35 All right. It's astronomically impossible to fuse my lyrical time bomb. I'm coming from. Where you from? We're from the same place. I like the same taste. You got the same face. Girl, thank you for coming to my place
Starting point is 00:49:54 and not giving me no coochie. Yeah. Because I'm a oochy-coochy. Coochill la la. It's more believable. It's more believable now. Yeah. I'm more conceivable.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I'm more believable. I'm more achievable. Come on. Okay. I'm easy. Look at you believing in yourself. Believing in myself. Look at you, believing.
Starting point is 00:50:17 in yourself. Be yourself. I said it off to the left. Because I was on the right. Right. I was out of sight. Because I only got one eye. I'm ready to die.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Not today. Yourself. I'm ready to cry. I cry. You believe in yourself. I'm Joseph. We got to do some shit like that. You believing in yourself.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Look at you. Over there, believing in yourself. Used to be your honor, but an overachieving by yourself. Look at you. You need that motivation. You, uh, You put your mind to it.
Starting point is 00:50:49 That's called that concentration. Concentration, they ain't by shit, that's constipation. I've been making cash, and I got my proclamation. March 3rd, it's a little flip day in H-time. But Padre Island, too. I got days than two times, but a excited part, we got a day too. So I got three days.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I write songs in my PJs. Come on a PJ. I used to go to Austin, and they had the relays. I walked straight to the DJ. Come on. If you got a little bit of drink left, that's a ski taste. Come on. They catch me, I take them on the chase.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Hit the switch. Everything get gold dine. I'm a hammerhead is sharp. Brill them in, watch them dry. Hey, I pull your girl and you think I'm not. Walking around your house with number of gold-toe socks. Okay. In a robe like a stepfather.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Lock the top lock and don't bother. Step daddy. Everybody's about to go to bed. You heard what your stepfather says. Make sure you take a bath tonight. Right now, nigga. Because y'all was must-a-shed last night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Your mama said, don't say nothing. But ain't your real father, so I'mma say something. Hey, and that room smell like peace. No, none of y'all little niggas want to square with me. Because I'm old school. I got a tank top. I'll whip a nigger ass and some flip-flops. I didn't did that.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Try me then. Try me then. I will, you, your cousin and a boyfriend, come on. Come on. In case y'all try to jump. Jump, jump, jump. And before you go to bed, y'all grumb on them is ugly. I hate this family.
Starting point is 00:52:30 What? And if you don't like it, try to do something to me. Try to do something to him, nigger. I'm gonna have to show up. The whipped lime green, they look like throw up. Oppos to the down, I gotta go up. I get the cash two of everything like no one. Like Noah.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Come on. Made a lot of cash, then I put it away. Come on. Legendary. I jam shoday. Yeah. Cash is clay. Nigger, I gotta sting.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Milk does a body good, but in Texas we drank a lot of lean. But you gotta drink that water to flush your kidneys. Come on. A lot of these rappers, man, they goofies. They so Disney. Nigger, you know I'm rapper in Houston. I'm so Whitney. You know, I cross a nigga over like Mike Bibby.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Mm-hmm. Tried to tell them, niggas, we ain't feel. They were seeing my well off. Too blind to see we well off. Come on. You must don't know how many gas guards we mail out. I didn't care. I can't tell y'all.
Starting point is 00:53:25 No. I'm connected with some real niggas. And if you're from the South, man, you gotta be a trill, nigger. We don't wear no hill figure. It's polo. Back in the days I bought my bitch and some of Nolos. Went to New York to fuck with Killer Cam. If these niggas need verses, go to money, Graham.
Starting point is 00:53:44 money gram or hit me on my Instagram. I'm going to give them hell cash out for fast rap so you could hit me on my Zell. Yeah. Sitting the front end. Because I need that before we begin the business process. Okay. And have that other money as soon as I get my baggage right off the process. Right. And have a car wait. Big blunts with no shape. And some thick just to sit by me. A nice view with a chick by me. Bitch, bitch. You ain't seen me with something thick by me?
Starting point is 00:54:21 All the holes in the back want to sit by me. Hey! Having good fucking times. Like Rick James, the way they stand in line. That's gonna go over your head. But I spit it off the top because the nigga like me ain't scared. Hey, run it back so I can see what the fuck I said. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Should have watered motherfucking shit I had. and red, but I went with the black because I'm super cool. I should have wore some ice blue because I'm super cool. I should have wore some green shit, man, this is how I feel. I should have wore the same color as a dollar bill. I should have came the same color as honey mustard. Because I don't give a fucking, you know these bitches want to trust me. I should have came the same color barbecue sauce so I can make some bad bitches just lick it off.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I should have came the same color as a chicken wing. The way I get so fucking fly and do my damn thing. I should have came the same color as a now later. I should have came in blood red. I'm like an alligator. I should have came like a motherfucking Nike suit. I should have came with about 50 niggas out the boot. I should have came like that pause.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I should have came back. Welcome back. We here y'all. Hey, hey. Me and a little flirt two of the coldness. Hey, hey, they ever come outside. I'm talking about out of all the niggas that ever came outside.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Man, it was up. I thought you was about to jump in there, Jay. I was about to say, hey, yo, I be on the PJ. That mean my pajamas. I be with your mama, your auntie, and your grandmama. Yeah. That's all I had. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:58 But at least you, hey, at least you. Come on. There we go. There we go. Salute. I would put it. Like if I would, I would put that last and then cut the beat off. That's what I should did.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Yeah. Po ball shouting, you should charge niggas poe bars. Watch this. Jay Wynn, let him do his shit then cut it out. Watch this. Do your shit again. Okay. I should have came, I stay in the PJs.
Starting point is 00:56:19 That's me and my pajamas. I'll be with your auntie, your grong. Let's do it, though. Let's do it. Okay. We do. Watch your men. And cut.
Starting point is 00:56:27 All right, cool. I'm going to count you in. All right. You'll count you in. I don't know. You got to get the groove, get the groove. Get the groove. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:34 It's my mind. Face on. It's my mind. Yeah. Get your eye right? You ready? Ready? Let's go.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Go. I stay in PJs. That's my pajamas. I'll be with your sister, your auntie, and your grandmama. Cut the beat. See, that's enough. Yeah, we're in there. And then I'm gonna get it.
Starting point is 00:56:54 But you did it the better the very first time, though. You're getting better. Drink some more exotic pop. Yeah. Okay, cool. You still got some work to do. Okay. But just a cool.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Hey, man, you're headed in the right direction. I'm making effort. The only thing to be a fill is a try, right? Right. You know what you gotta do? You gotta learn some more words. I see you trying to think of words. You gotta expand your vocabulary.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Don't overthink. Hey, that's why the whole time I'm over here listening to y'all, I'm like, how do that? Bro, you just- You wrote it, but I don't, I know you didn't. Well, Flip got photographic memory and shit. So even nine ladies and the alligators, you already had that? No, man, that's just some, that don't sound alike. Nine ladies and alligators.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Now ladies and alligators. Black people really kind of manipulated this language to make certain shit sound a certain way. That's why it's so many words that look alike, but they don't have the same thing. Yeah. And my back end. The back end.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Yeah, synonyms and shit. Yeah. I was breaking, I'm like, how the fuck this? These songs must be out already at their house. Just out the top of the head, that's real freestyle. That's why when I be seeing, like, you know how people do, they'll put up freestyle and, like, I can say a little person. You frowned on that?
Starting point is 00:58:18 If it's not a freestyle, that just means they couldn't come up with a hook. Yeah, man, like, if it's not an actual freestyle, you shouldn't call it a freestyle. Even if you're doing it over somebody else's beat, you know what I'm saying? But if you're not actually freestyling, it's not a freestyle. Well, would it be a bought style? No. No, it's wrote.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It's a rote style. Wrote that shit. It's put together. It ain't, you know. It's put together. It ain't off the head. It's preconceived. Hey, dog, listen, everybody ain't got this type of talent right here.
Starting point is 00:58:44 No, yeah. And it's some people that, like, really write well. I salute them all. To the point we- Especially the battle rappers, all of my partners. I salute them. Like Cassidy, I was texting with Cassidy before I came with. But all of them, read Dollars,
Starting point is 00:58:57 all them, my gosh. And then to be able to remember all of those lines. Three times for three minutes. I can do it. And performing, yeah, and make it entertaining. But off the top of the head, nah, nigga, that's me y'all. You could do that, flip. What?
Starting point is 00:59:14 You could do that. Remember all this shit? Yes, you could definitely do that. Niggin, I got so many songs that I have to, I have to remember. Turn that shit on. The fuck? Like, nigga, I got so many songs that I have to remember when I perform. Like, nigga, for me to sit there and just try to remember,
Starting point is 00:59:30 niggas, 60 bars, nigga. nigger three rounds of it nigger like man listen all right I see what's going on because I'm asking you the wrong question because it ain't enough on the line inside or figurative
Starting point is 00:59:44 in this imaginary conversation let's say it's a million dollars on the line back against the wall for a million dollars and who do you battle I ain't go pick who I battle but for a million dollars
Starting point is 00:59:55 you're gonna let anybody battle you you don't give a fuck I mean if I show you if I choose if I choose to battle like that, you know, I do that, but I'd rather go out the top of the head. I don't, I'm a way, like, I'm a vicious, nigga, my pen's stupid too.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, but I'm just saying, like, off the head, nigga, I'm a, I don't have no restrictions. I don't have to stick to a cadence, or even though I know how to change my cadence if I write, but, like, I get to just try different styles. And, you know, so, nigga,
Starting point is 01:00:30 I'll just be having fun with it. But yeah, but I'm gonna leave that battle into them young niggas, man. To all of them in the day. I got my own battle league, little flip rap battle league, so I'm bringing that back. But I ain't, man, I'm cool, man. You know, cause when you battle, see,
Starting point is 01:00:43 I started all battle rather, like, as well as in the church, nigga. I used to battle and do talent shows, go win the trophies, nigga, all the clubs in Houston, yeah, around the world. But you mean battle in church? Nigger, Jesus don't love you.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Yeah, yeah. Positive. He blessed me, me, him and him. And but not you. See, I was talking to God the other day I said, Lord, protect me from my enemies. Then tech showed up. Damn, trying to be a friend to me, see. You got to take your time when you're around snakes.
Starting point is 01:01:19 That's why I'm here to clean up the yard. I'm bringing out the holes in the rakes. See, that'll be hard. That'll be hard. Like a church battle? I rebuke you in the blood of Jesus. Because he's the only one that has my heart. He's the only ones that please us.
Starting point is 01:01:36 You five-five with brown eyes. I said, you five-five with brown eyes. I'm impulsable. That last thing I just said, it was very plausible. Y'all should clap now. Everybody better start slapping before I started to sleep. Now. You've been violent, man, you've been violent in church.
Starting point is 01:02:05 In church, yeah. You want to slap people in church. You know what I'm about to get kidnapped. Nah, you're right. You can't take you no one, bro. No, you, you can't. No, no. You gotta kind of have a cold word for when he can talk with y'all.
Starting point is 01:02:17 You can't, bro. You can't take this nigger nowhere. You give him like a cold word to tell somebody to say hi and buy and then he don't talk, right? No. And then you, when it's time for one joke, you give him like that nuh, he'll tell that joke and he don't say nothing else. He's not gonna get that. Because he don't know, wouldn't stop.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Well, you gotta tell it. He's the type of niggins church and be like, man, there's some holes in here. I've done it. You can't tell. He can't. He can't. So yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I tried, bro. Somebody in the comments put it the best way I seen it put. They said, Jack is the person that you can't take nowhere, but you glad you did. Man. The more comments I read or how much they hate Jack, I'm gonna keep putting them on episodes. Well, you gotta ask somebody, man.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Get back. To balance to make it. laughing. That nigger, man, me. That's why I keep crying laughing over here, bro. So that's great, man. You can bring joy back, man. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't necessarily say that, but... Straight up. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.
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Starting point is 01:07:28 Bro, we should start a gospel battle rap league. No, it was just like talent shows and battles and just, you know, you just do it. Let's start a gospel battle rap league. What in the room? Then let's start a battle rap league just for all the fathers. Straight up. Because you know what? I bet you it's a lot of people in church that do want to battle and whatnot, but they just feel like it's kind of outside of the company.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Oh, that'll be hard. Sister Johnson, I don't like the way you parked your car right next to the pastor like you some kind of something. superstar. Every time somebody say, is there any announcements from the floor, you pop your little weasel head ass up and be like, I got one more. I'm sick of this shit.
Starting point is 01:08:09 You're keeping us in church all Sunday. Then you want people to come back at 6 o'clock on Monday. Straight up. True. And you want to sit here and praise the Lord and be all fake. When everybody in the whole church know you're stealing out the collection,
Starting point is 01:08:27 place. That's when the church go crazy. For real? Somebody in the back said, talk your shit! That's going to be Jack? That's going to be Jack? Yeah, yeah. Oh, Jack can take shit way too far. Man. Because he'll be like, get on that bitch ass. And then
Starting point is 01:08:43 now the whole church wants to shut the battle down. He ain't even in the battle, but he's right there. He finds his way to be front row at a lot of battles. I couldn't see church being over there. And it ain't anything wrong with it. What do you think that is? I just feel like, you know, just let it happen.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Right. Let it happen, let the chips fall where they made. I heard that. And you know, you just keep on going and you might fuck around and land where you want to. It's about consistency at the end of the day. Would y'all agree? That's a beautiful message.
Starting point is 01:09:17 It's about consistency. It's about consistency. Georgia just got his first water burger down here. For real? Hell yeah. Make some of that shit. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:09:27 That's crazy. I mean, it's in Kennesaw, but it still hit him. It wasn't no other. You got a water burger, man. Yeah. Why did they choose to put it in Kennesaw first? Somebody else bought it for, I guess they had the money. Well, he'll go one, like a contra code, like trick.
Starting point is 01:09:44 You know what I'm saying? When you get to tequito, sausage, egg, and cheese, tell them you want the egg out the shell. And it's going to taste way better than the regular one. That people don't know the ass, well. The egg out the shell. They didn't get the honey butter chicken. You didn't confuse him.
Starting point is 01:10:02 He ain't, I told you, he's not on the same level as everybody else. He thinks you made it. What they mean, shell? Well, eggs don't come out, no shell. Eggs come out of garden because he was. A quick trip? What?
Starting point is 01:10:15 To quitos? No, no, no, we're talking about Waterburger. That was it, oh. Oh, you threw me out. I'm like, what? Oh, okay. You loused me. I told you, man.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Got you. Yeah, yeah. You need to smoke, because if you don't smoke and you act like this, maybe smoking might. He's not acting, he liked that. That's what I'm saying. You might need to smoke. No, you ain't seen him hot, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Well then, damn man, I'm gonna figure out a cure for you. When he gets high. So you can be on beat and so you can be more confident about what you got going on with your life. When that nigga you get in half, he started thinking he's in shape, he started trying people and shit. I am in shape.
Starting point is 01:10:53 See, it's the second hand smokes. I'm round. I'm still stuck on this Ferrari with the 5K. Bro, that nigga pulled that move on me, man. That niggins said, I ain't got the money yet, bro. I get with you when I get it. It was, it was goddamn 5K and like, it was about maybe 2,000 in bills and the other 3,000 was in change. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:11:14 That nigga had about $200,000. It wasn't mine. In cash. Hey, how many times have you seen niggas have that amount of money and whatnot and they couldn't take it off? Especially when a nigga like you, I was that called her. Like, that nigga was in the Farrar. I heard him slam the trunk where the money was at. You, hey, you've been, you.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Hey, I heard the shit. Slams in the back. Carlos been to my apartment in New York. He knew I went to living like that. Hey, flip, one time that nigga, I went to that nigga first apartment. You know how people invite you in. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:45 This nigga was talking to me through the window. For real. Hey, it's hard in New York, man. I'm outside looking crazy to the motherfucker talking to the street. They thought I was talking to a ninja turtle. I told a nigga come through the window. I was good.
Starting point is 01:11:59 But he was too bougie for that. He thought it was a game. We could have fit in miles. You were a lot, nigger. You were standing in your whole shit, like a stall. That's in New York life, though, bro. You know, I went up there chasing the dream and shit. And a lot of shit just be fabricated.
Starting point is 01:12:17 You know, that were 50 money. That wasn't my money. Oh, yeah. He were rich. I weren't rich. I want that part of the collective. I wanted to get in the independent grind, though. What about it?
Starting point is 01:12:31 You got rich on the independent side. Definitely. What made you go fuck with the majors then? To be more rich? Not about being more rich because I was, I had millions, like I had some M's already around 15, 16. Shit. Yeah, like, as a black person?
Starting point is 01:12:49 Yeah, I was, see. I love shit. That's why I be telling you. You were doing crypto back then? No, it was in cash. I just, I'm a hustler. And I was, I had the pleasure to meet some people that were plugged in. And I was able to make money.
Starting point is 01:13:08 But I still had to play a role as if I was broke because I still stayed with my grandparents. You get what I'm saying? Right. So I'm doing that now. I just, I applied the way I learned and the different people that I was around, you know what I'm saying? a lot of Mexicans where I come from, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, we're right by the border. So, you know, I was able to plug it with some people
Starting point is 01:13:31 and I just learned a lot. So I applied the way I've seen other business men and women bring their organizations up to the top in the way they, you know, applied. See, most people, when, you know, when you were watching these movies like Godfather and, you know, they'd be like, you know, you got to have a boss and a under boss
Starting point is 01:13:50 and a copo and outlet, you know, concierge and but what might work for somebody else might not work for you listen I want to have our bouches with me because I want the person who's handling anything that's being handled to know what it feel like to lose some money and know how important each you know what I'm saying job or situation is if you got a motherfucker playing the role and they ain't never know what it feel like to lose 50 bands or nothing, they ain't gonna take that, you know what I mean? Yeah, especially if it ain't thing shit to lose.
Starting point is 01:14:27 So I'm surrounded myself with motherfuckers that. So I just grinded like that and I had different people, whatever DJs that were showing me the most love and helping, and even all of them, some of them used to have problems with each other, but I put them all in the room like, look, I fuck with all y'all, all y'all help with my records, we're from the eat, whatever y'all got going,
Starting point is 01:14:46 put that shit to the side, at least for the day. You know what I mean? Let's celebrate what we got going. I do my mixtapes, freestyling on out, everybody's beach, you know what I'm saying, doing my shit going to the Times. While we're picking up show money, I'm picking up more money on my mixtapes
Starting point is 01:15:01 than I was for the show. And I just kept on doing it. Everybody, like, why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? Man, you giving them too much, you blah, blah, blah. Nobody wanted to get on the mixtapes. And then when I got, they saw how much money I was making, then on the fourth one, all the people on the label,
Starting point is 01:15:15 was like, man, put me on some. I told you all, niggas. So I'm like, like Roy Jones say, y'all must have forgot. You know what I mean? So I just grind and Pensacola was one of my markets. Mississippi, fucking with David Banner, you know what I'm saying? I used to be in his time prior to like... You said that man had bad table manners on his own song.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Man. You told the world that, did he know you felt like that prior to the record coming out? I ain't going to lie. It just sounded good. Well, the ninky Banner actually said he did have bad tape. Yeah, it sounded good. You know, David Banner, table manners. It was like, you know, I like to not rhyme everything
Starting point is 01:15:58 with words that people have heard rhymed with before, you know what I mean? Right. I'm glad you did that one, because now all my uncles in Mississippi, that's the one song they know all the words to. You know, my uncle get drunk and he just keeps saying that one line, bruh, over and over to somebody beat his head. Me, I'm a pimp, straight up. I ain't paying for no sex.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Rather buy a car, nephew, or a new Rolex. Yeah. Motherfucker, that's his part. Hey, shout out to everybody in Mississippi, man. Like, shout out to all my people in Mississippi, but special shout out to all my drunk-ass uncles. Shout out to the drunk-ass uncles, man. My uncles'd be fucked up at 8 o'clock on Saturday morning.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Fucked up. I need to see a video. Oh, fucking yeah. I need to see the uncles saying that shit on video. Get them on video one day. Oh. Whenever you, you know, I want to see how they turn up to like a pimp. Uh-uh, they flagged all these videos.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Hey, now, send, I didn't want to see it for me. I'm gonna send it to me. Yeah, I ain't got a poster, but I put on a documentary or something, you know, whatever, but I just want to see the uncles in Mississippi turn up to like a pimp. Man, that's their shit. Yeah. Now, why they be flagging it?
Starting point is 01:17:14 When you're on the music and stuff like that, I just want to see the OGs turn up. I can post it because of my shit. Of a video I was in, awesome shit I said. Man. I was in the video and I was talking shit like over like my shit. I had to like go through that shit and get a review. They keep flagging it though every so often.
Starting point is 01:17:35 They need a fuck alone, bro. These are my thoughts and ideas. Fuck y'all. Message. Ain't it crazy though how motherfucking not only wanna your content but your likeness yeah pretty soon they're gonna be selling oxygen they got me got a grandma a nigger got a grandma out nigger got a grandma out for a honey nigga that's one honey I hope they don't do that because
Starting point is 01:18:06 then you're gonna find out you ain't been breathing out this whole tally fucking way like what so what have we been doing yeah keep breathing that shit you've been breathing but if you want some real air here's my card And you can't do it like day by day. You gotta have a subscription. Yeah. And your air go on your credit report. Nigger.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Nigger. Elon Musk going to find this clip and make that shit possible. Hey, y'all know where it started. Cut us in. We ain't greedy. Anything is plenty, man. Like Devin the dudes say, man. Shout out to Devin the dude too. Shout out to Devon the Dude, too, man.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I brought to do one of my bucket lists, man. One of my bucket list is to do a record with Jay the kids, do a record with Shadeh, and do a weed song with Devon to Do. So I got the weed song with Devon the Dude on this project, Fungeon Flip. I just wrapped this about two weeks ago. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:19:09 This is the middle school I went to, Fonjah Middle School, in Houston, on the southwest side of Houston, It's like, you know, it's some shit that went on, you know, on that side of time, man. And that's where I had to, you know, grow up even faster than I was already, I already put on game by my, you know, I mean, my parents and my uncle, so I wasn't no green. I was nine years old with the amount of 25-year-old and, you know, as I grew. But yeah, man, I did that, and then I got this record, I'm going to get Jada kiss on.
Starting point is 01:19:45 When I did drink champs, I was telling Norrie my, you know, I'm like, yeah, I want to do a record with Chadey and a record with Jada. And so he FaceTime Jada Q. Oh, I knew that nigga's going to get drunk to call him. That's one of my favorite parts of the show. So yeah, so yeah, Jada, I still need that verse, man. Yo, yo, yo, yo, I'm going to call you right back. I'm in a little flip. Yep, I need that verse Jada, man, you know.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Yeah, that's going to be hard. Yeah, so I gotta get that and then I got to work on Shade. I love her. I ain't never heard. Nobody on a Shadee. I love her. Never heard that. You want to do a feature.
Starting point is 01:20:20 I want to be her boyfriend. Straight up. Even if she just left me and moved a friend. You know Shade's 65 years old, right? I don't get. She don't even look like. Nowhere near it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I love her. I would be listening to her shit by myself and I just. Me too. In my mind. In my mind, it's like, it ain't no doorway. I played that before, before, look, look, before I do concerts, depending on the type of crowd I'm going on, like. I got different records, right?
Starting point is 01:20:46 You know what I'm saying? And I throw shout out, shot A on a cherished today. I throw that on, and then I throw on zero. Shout out to my bro, zero. Shout out to the most shit, though. It is, my bro for life and infinity. Screwed up, cliques shit. But, like, he got a record called Respect My Mind.
Starting point is 01:21:04 It's kind of like a rendition of that. So I play her version, and I play Respect My Mind, and then I go into 50 cents. You know what I'm saying? What up? What up, Coo? You know what I'm saying? And then after that I go into my money bag yo shit, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:21:19 Oh like niggas, oh like bitches, oh like nobody. Yeah. So I get in my different about this. That song got the spirit of the ancestors and he come out on stage there. Don't that just sound like a monologue from one of the old black and white movement? This is going to say the spirit of the hands. Straight up. Niggas home like bitches, home like nobody.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Straight up. That shit hard. We can keep it main to main or. or however you won't go about it. That's just the gargone truth. On big God. Nah, I was fucking around. I love that shit, though, man, the culture.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Speaking of the culture, man, it's a new generation of artists coming out of Houston, man. You fuck with them. Who got your co-sign? Who you see, starred, and what they had now. There's so many I don't want to leave no names. I feel.
Starting point is 01:22:13 But what it is, I will make sure I say some names that I know I had left out a few times. Somebody asked me this. But you got the Jeremy Gass gang doing this shit. You got South Walker. You still got Beekin doing this thing. I'm proud of him elevating doing other records, you know what I mean, with two chains and just being able to do, you know, to get the look that he looked, man. Because he'd make that shit, man, for them clubs, man.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Club, God. Shout out to Beekin. Yeah. Man, you got pace. Paiso doing this thing. The whole T is Mexican, yeah, O&B, bloodbath. You got, Tina Marie, you got, man, you got... Martina Marie.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Martina Marie. Maxo, crazy. It's a lot of... Maxo, you got Maxo, Maxo, Max. It's so many, man, but... Sosa, man. Any. Yeah, Sosa.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Look, all of... So, all the people that take this serious are people who got my co-sign. You know what I'm saying? The people... So I root for these artists like when I bump it to them or whatever they ever be needing verses and stuff like there, like I chop it up with them and I fuck with them. And it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:23:23 You gotta pass the torture. You gotta get a game the same way. People like Snoop Dogg gave me the game and other mentors and DJ Screw and Devin the dude. We have different, Abile MJG and UGK and Mama West, Pimsy mom and rest of peace of Pempsi. Like I got a lot of knowledge, so it'd be a lot out of behind the scene game that they be giving me.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And, you know, because of PEMC mom and because of my dad, it's one of the reasons why and how I know how to deal with promoters and why I book stuff and talk for myself. Like, I don't need no middleman talking for me. You know what I mean? That's the game. Deal get done way quicker when I talk for myself. You know, Ryan, though, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:06 So you talk to me directly. Exactly. Yeah. You need no middleman. Hell no. Yeah, I heard Snoop Dogger when I was on a Gigi in a while back. He said that some advice that he asked 50 about how he was getting all these deals, he said, he said, are you inside of the meetings?
Starting point is 01:24:29 And he was like, nah. He said, that's the problem. That's why you ain't getting the deals that you want because you ain't in the meetings. Yeah, yeah. You got to be there. You damn like. And learn their lingo. Because somebody go be there and they're going to be trying to
Starting point is 01:24:40 representation for you even like with my strain I did with gas guns like my sunshine strain it I talk for myself you know I'm saying like I write my own contracts up like I know what I want right I'm saying I know I've read enough contracts and been a part of enough business to know what's what I came in the game as a CEO a lot of artists they didn't even start off it as a CEO you know what I'm saying timber but um so I came in the game of CEO man so I'm just one of them type of of visionaries. I'm a quarterback to play. I'm going to talk. We go get it done. I'm going to do what I say I'm going to do plus more. And then, you know, once they go
Starting point is 01:25:20 deal with other artists and go through bullshit, they're going to be running back to me like, man, I don't need to do more business with you because, see, this nigga, he wouldn't even post my shit. He took the money. He finesse me. Right. And they kind of come back to the trail and see, I stand on principles and morals of doing great business. Not good business, great business. I want to make sure you satisfied. You good? You know what I mean? Alright, cool. And then I'm out, nigger. Back in the shadows like a ninja, nigga. Right. They say $250,000 is what it takes to push a record to become a number one hit, right? Now, if you was to give a... It might be too low.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Yeah, it might be. Definitely might be too low. If you used to give a upcoming artist, you know what I'm saying? Advice what to do with his $250,000. What would you tell him to do? Keep the money. I ain't going to give it away here. They would have to contact me for my consultant, and I'll tell you. I'm hearing this over and out. It's to be sold for real. Yeah, because I'm one of them people.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I did it with a little bit of money, with no money, with money, with money. And what you realize, bro, is relationships, I last money. Right? So if you know the right people and the right people you know, know the right people. If you have a chain of the right people all around the fucking world, you're gonna be able to be resourceful
Starting point is 01:26:46 and have people get you whatever you need. So it's really about a motherfucker who got two 50, I show them how to spend probably like 50 of there. 50 of there, keep the two, you keep the, hold on, let me show you, I make 50 look like you spend probably a half a million. Because it's a whole method to how this stuff it is. And I've been in a lot of billion dollar meat.
Starting point is 01:27:09 and all these different things just, you know, just watching. Boom, boom, boom, boom. So, yeah, yeah, you know, that's what it is. But it's different ways of skin a cat, man. You just got to know the right people. You've been in the game, man, like, to the point. You was one of the first people. Everybody from Houston talk that independent shit.
Starting point is 01:27:33 They've been, like, independent for a long time. What did Houston rappers know back in there? 90s, early 2000s, that everybody else didn't know. They knew that there was a lot of people in Texas. We just knew you got to go out and be for the people. You know what I mean? Like, when a person is able to, like, this is what I tell people all the time. People used to be like, man, why you pass out your own flyers?
Starting point is 01:28:07 Why do you get your own CDs? I'm like, look, a person, they go remember me giving it to them more than like a street team person. You know what I mean? Yeah, I got this. Phillip gave this to me. And he told me my shoes was dope.
Starting point is 01:28:24 He shook my hand to the other. You feel me, a whole story come with this. Took a bitch with my baby and everything. So I'm just like, yeah, yeah, nigger. You serve us with a smile, nigga. Respectfully. Make them real fans, bro. Yeah, because you're spending your money to fuck with me.
Starting point is 01:28:43 You could have spent your money anywhere else, but you decided to spend some money with me, buy an album. Even if I give you a free album, that means you go buy a ticket to the concert and you go come and know the words already, and you might buy a shirt. So if I don't get you to buy an album, you know, I get you to buy something,
Starting point is 01:28:59 even if I just get one stream, it's cool. Or even if you just, I impact your life. It's all good because I started out doing music for God anyway, not for no money. So I don't, the reason I do music is way different than other niggas, you know what I'm saying? I just do it because I'm nice, nigga, and this is what I was programmed to do. And I run circles around niggas even at this age. You put me on the track with any nigga from any area, any age, and I'm not going to sound like I'm from the, you feel me? Right. Yeah, I'm a, yeah, I'm going to blend right in, and I'm going to give it to him
Starting point is 01:29:34 respectfully. It's crazy that you say that, because I I remember when Ludacris was Chris Love A Lova, and he gave me his CD back for the first time. And when he started to blow right after that, when Wisha Fantasy came on and whatnot, and with his first album, I was like, that's buddy. And I followed him ever since then, and I felt like I was a part of the journey. That's dope. And so I see exactly what you're saying with The Method. Yeah, it's cool, man. And me just having a combo with my fans,
Starting point is 01:30:07 that shit, like, inspire music. Like, even, like, if you listen to Devin the Doe record, oh, what a job this is, where he got Andre 3,000 and Snoop on it, and, like, how Andre's talking about the fan that he met and blah, blah, blah. Like, you know, so I'm just one of them people, you know, I absorb the energy, and, you know, it might end up in a record, or it might end up in the story.
Starting point is 01:30:30 I might end up Hakeem, or I might end up Robert Ory. Yeah. He ain't paying attention. I'm sitting here just peeping game loud. This shit you're saying right here. It's just amazing, man. Just to know that I used to ride around, listening to all these little flip, freestyle, man.
Starting point is 01:30:46 We're sitting in here talking this shit, man. Nah, man, when you text me about the, that I can do that. That's my shit. That was great. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't know you was from Mississippi. So just the respect and the, you know, the, you know, the, the realness and trillness,
Starting point is 01:31:06 because some people, they feel like if they're grown or they too gangster, you know, I'm too good or too gangster to tell another nigga, hey man, I fuck with your music, or nigga, them shoes, nice, you know what I mean? So anytime another grown man is able to tell her, nah, nigga, nah, you inspire me. Whether we the same age or whether you older or t-da-da.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Nah, I respect it and I appreciate it. And that shit worth more than money to me, you know what I'm saying? Because that let me know that some shit that I made in the studio when I was going through or thinking whatever, whatever, made it way to Mississippi and somebody fuck with that shit and know that shit. It just keep me going. I use it as
Starting point is 01:31:42 fuel. Hey, man, that's real. Because this is for the blacks, Asians, Chinese and Caucasian, Muslims, Irish, and even Jamaican. All the Hispanics throw your hoods up. And all the fine women raise a dress up. Nice to throw yourself.
Starting point is 01:32:02 That's up. And all the fun with me in rage. Hey, that's my shit. We in this bitch, Jack Thriller. That was crazy, bro. I want to get into your mind real quick, man. I want to ask you something that's... Hypothetical-ass shit.
Starting point is 01:32:17 This is going to be pretty cool right here. You ready? Okay. This is some inception shit. Okay. What is a dream that you didn't have ever since you were a little like that's reoccurring that you always have? Like, for like 40 years. I've always had this one same dream that I can fly.
Starting point is 01:32:36 No wings, but I'm always flying inside of my dream. And no one understands it except me and everybody's shocked, but I'm not. I mean, what's that for you? Just the one reoccurring dream for me was when I was a kid and I saw Richie Rich with the Rose Royce and the doors and you know what I mean? Just the um-brose.
Starting point is 01:32:59 The white boy. When I saw Richie, She rich the way the kid was living, man. As a kid, I just knew I was, that's how I deserved a ride in the double law. You know what I mean? For me, I just, that's how I wanted to, you know, that's how I wanted to come. And so when you got certain goals that cost a lot of money, you work toward them goals to get it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:33:25 And every goal, like I said, man, every goal I said I wanted to do, I did. I just wanted a gold album. And the leprechaun, you know what I'm saying? I'm two, three million on that independent and then got the deal. And you know what I mean? So, and then what people don't know, I'm a hustler.
Starting point is 01:33:46 So I'm like, man, nigga, I want a gold album, nigga. So I know, I'm like, nigga, you drop a double album, it counts twice. So I'm like, I drop a double album, nigga. All I got to sell is $250,000. And I'm gold, nigger, and I'm cool. The leprecon got his own.
Starting point is 01:34:00 and so um nigger dropped it and we sold a real million so so everything count twice when you drop a double album so and it's a blessing man having that hustle man having that hustle that's hard the nest end the next day yeah the leprecha yeah man still the test of time man some bangers on there Classics. Still in it. What does the leprechaun represent for you? I'm born in March, March 3rd. I'm from my hood called Cloverland.
Starting point is 01:34:40 My favorite series was Lucky Chon. I used to watch the leprechaun movie all the time. You know what I'm saying? And you like potatoes? I like potatoes, but that ain't one of the reasons. The lepercon like potatoes in the movie. Yeah, I like me gold. Yeah, I want me shilling.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Yeah. You don't know why? I don't know why. I want to go, man. Why the lebracons like potatoes? Because the iron, then you don't remember, like, the famine in Ireland of all the people were starving their shit, and the potatoes say they like. Man.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Come on, Jake, you need to study up. God damn. I mean, that's the brief version of it. God, yeah. They, like, they was, something happened and all the food got fucked up, the famine. And they, the potatoes is what say the whole country. You are bad, motherfucker. I know this.
Starting point is 01:35:28 And I tried to tell you. I told you we two of the coldest motherfuckers ever come outside. That's crazy. Right. Straight up. Hey, no, I learned that back in the fourth grade and I don't know why I ain't ever put two in two together. The leopard comes from my island. I just want me gold, man.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Get your gold, get your chips. What old schools you got right now, Phillip? I know you got at least one. Yeah, none. None. You're done with them. Yeah, man. Damn, we lost another one y'all.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Yeah, yeah. Whatever, I'm done with them right now. Okay, okay. Like I'm on some, like my organization. It's called Art of a Drugs movement, and we teach kids how to act, play instruments, and paint. That's dope. Because you're an artist too, girl.
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Starting point is 01:37:04 And remember, use code 85% of for 20% off for a whole six months. That's channel 85. Subscribe right now. Bowling. As well, and draw. And so, like, all my jewelry and all their tattoos, yeah. And I'm designing the jerseys for my high school
Starting point is 01:37:25 Worthing and building the studio that so the kids can record and the program we got going like my Art of the Drugs movement and then you know also 50 he got his G unity foundation so he do a lot of stuff with my high school as well so yeah so we got different stuff going on but I'm actually building a studio and shout out the 50 cent man for doing a lot of shit for my city my age time congrats on getting the keys to the city shout out the 50 you know we always He always had love for his time, so salute you, man, you know what I'm saying? He came to the show I had, and he said, a couple of them, I think. Yeah, yeah, fifth real, man, we, we've been through similar shit.
Starting point is 01:38:03 We'd be having side conversations, and, you know what I'm saying? We and him went through similar shit, and you think about all the shit he went through and think about all the shit I went through, and, nigger, we still standing, nigga. Yeah. We still standing, and we still showing motherfuckers that we think outside the box. You know what I mean? Like, even with this Fung and Flip album, this might, you know how, like, people rank JZ albums
Starting point is 01:38:27 and they're like, yeah, my favorite JZ album is Blueprint, but then it's reasonable doubt, you know what I'm saying? But it flip-flop sometime, but it's Blueprint, you know what I'm saying, then reasonable doubt. But this particular album right here, Fonjee, man, I went into a different bag. I just wanted to experiment a lot,
Starting point is 01:38:48 and I met this band called Them Roots, music and um they gave me like some reggae vibes and that's one of the beats that i put dev in the dude on so it's a lot it's a lot of live instrumentation on this album and this right here you know i consider this this this my blueprint because every record on this motherfucker like i'm spitting and it's all different like i got some drill on there you know what i'm saying i got some drill man i got some violence man you know oh shit on there man we in america you know we love some good old violence Yeah, man, so shout out to everybody. Especially in our entertainment. Speaking of the bag, bro, you got this popcorn,
Starting point is 01:39:28 stop the violence, for real. Yeah, yeah. Entertainment purposes on. Bro, what's this right here, though? Oh, man, shout out to my guy chimp, man. There's some candy popcorn? Yeah, clover, green apple. I'm excited about this.
Starting point is 01:39:39 I'm about to try this shit. Yeah, man. Because if I know if my nigga D.C. was here, he'll bust this shit wide open. Spill, half, eat the other half. You know he would. What's what you got in here, man? What's inside of you?
Starting point is 01:39:54 Man, this is just some celebratory joints that I rolled on the way here. Let's see, man, what my god do you have? More than work on the tour. A little ugly joint, if you like. Well, they got the filter, my friend. Mm-hmm. Oh, my fucking head, Jack.
Starting point is 01:40:10 So it's candy apple corn. Correct. Green apple. Take some of yours. Oh, you're here now. I know you been digging. Alright, there we go, there we go. No, these are edible.
Starting point is 01:40:25 No, ain't no one. No, no, ain't nothing in it. Oh, this regular popcorn? Correct. I could have been eating this the whole time? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was scared.
Starting point is 01:40:33 So what about the soda? Nah, you're playing. You're playing Jane. I'm playing Jane on the soda too. Everything, nah. I could have been drinking the soda? I told you. You ain't see that? Yeah, you had asked him before I came.
Starting point is 01:40:45 You asked pillow. He didn't say he did not get back with me. You didn't get back with him? him. He never got back with me. It's never too late. It's never too late. Hey, I thought he was playing.
Starting point is 01:40:56 I thought you played me for real. I ain't going to even frame. Now, he had told me. But nah. This is good. We don't just go around passing the... This is a candy apple. You get some mud.
Starting point is 01:41:06 You get some mud. You get some... Nah, Nick. Nah, Jack. Hey, bro, I was scared. Don't be scared. What you think, Jack? Bone Crusher say he ain't never scared, nigg.
Starting point is 01:41:17 So you can't be scared, nigg. Shout out to my God Crusher, too. I was on his album. That was good, man. I got to get a plaque for that. His album went gold. See? You plaqued up now?
Starting point is 01:41:30 Yeah, that's one I need to get. Hell yeah. Look, they got a lot of rumors out about your longest freestyle. I want to hear from you. What's your longest freestyle? I thought this shit were lame, bro. Probably driving. And, yeah, it was, it was like not.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Matter of fact, we was going to Jackson. Like, I think it was like eight hours from Mace Town. And then I think we went to Louisiana. Like, it was like an eight or nine hour drive. I was going somewhere. And, you know, motherfucker, we just freestyle literally the whole way. Like, the whole way. Just, I don't know, some, every bit of, like, six hours.
Starting point is 01:42:16 You know what I mean? every bit just we just yeah the great old days some people say the good now she was greater great it's hard yes sir welcome back to another rendition man we got this tour called the ghetto legends man and that's all we've been bringing through the trap You are definitely certified ghetto legend. Give me one of your most ghetto legendary moments. I would say, where you just felt like this is it.
Starting point is 01:43:02 I've made it. Look at this shit. Man, it's like two moments when DJ Screw put me in a screwed up click, you know, rest of piece the DJ Screw. Yes, it did. When he put me in a, Yeah, he on your soda, man.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Rest in peace, the DJ Screw. Yeah, yeah. Zodipop shit. When he put me in a screwed up click and gave me my freestyle king plaque, that's one. And then when my OG C note from my neighborhood put me on a record called Diamonds in Your Face, and the same guys that sing on Boxers, Trojan, that record, they're singing on Diamonds in Your Face. And that's how they did the record and these diamonds all in your face. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:46 You know, my OGs, they put me on with that, and we just... Man, it's sort of good. I tried to tell you that, really. I was scared, bro. I was scared. I ain't know what I'm gonna have with this shit. Why, man? Because we had some more shit to do.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Nah, man, you're good, man. I ain't gonna do you like that, man. No, it is good, though, man, and this shit don't even flat as hell like that. You got good products, bro. I got great product. I apologize. Yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:44:21 I never disrespect you like that again. No, no, I just, I believe in myself, you know, on a higher level than anybody. So don't feel, nah, they feel disrespectful. It's phenomenal. I'm just that you know, you know, like when you think about it, I told you, man. Think about this logo right here, bro. Like a different case.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Everybody you know has had this logo. We've given different drinks out to different artists. A lot of artists that's not here no more, like the fat pads, the screws, the big molds, the hawks, like, and then, like, if you read on the back of the bottle, like, a percentage of this goes to helping their community and as well as their family. So even though Big Moe and DJ screw not here, we still got these drinks being sold and portions of this is helping their family and shit. So at the end of the day, you know, Scrut O'Click is a brotherhood and somebody got a, you know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Fall in the gap, man. Yeah, and spread the generation of wealth. So when years and centuries We just go by, and people are, oh, yeah, the screw-up click. You was in the screwed-up clique. Yeah, my uncle, my friend. And you ain't got nothing to show for it, you know what I mean? But, nah, we got to have some schools and some parks and some playgrounds and some music. Yeah, so, you know, I'm in the process of doing all those things. I'm just one of the niggas.
Starting point is 01:45:31 I just rather do it. That's why I made a song, I can do that. I just rather do it and get to it. You know. It's a drunk off one bill. I can do that. Hey, so inside of that, your initiative. with the kids and whatnot. Are you also doing something with teaching them how to freestyle?
Starting point is 01:45:49 Because, you know, like, I'm taking something from what you guys just taught me tonight. And I'm very confident in the next time that I'm able to, you know, facilitate my talents. Okay. That is going to be impressed. But that Hershey Walker line, and the PJs with the pajamas, I feel like I'm on to something. Okay. Because I felt, it's a spirit going on right here.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Yeah. There's some greatness going on right here. And I felt like y'all gave me them punching lines, man. You know what it was? I caught that shit right out there. Divine intervention. Mm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:29 It was going to have to happen. Yeah. Can't avoid that. If you was to make your own lucky charms, what would be the marshmallows? Jack, what the fuck? What would be the marshmallow? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Y'all don't eat it like a chombs. I would add a gold corn. There ain't no gold corn. Hearts, clovers, and balloons. I mean, I put a gold corn. I let the gold, you know what I'm saying? Since it ain't one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Make the gold corn, be the softened, make the clover, like, hard. Because, yeah, we ain't soft for the clover. You know what I'm saying? Like that. Yeah. I would like to have a little cereal for black children. Dude, come on. Like, what would it be?
Starting point is 01:47:10 So as soon as you think you out of the cereal. It's a little bit more on the bottom. It's about a bowl and a half left on the bottom, like a stanch. Like a reserve? Yeah. But just, like, sealed off, like, to hide it from the rest of the family. Oh, love. What's the route you going to go?
Starting point is 01:47:25 You're going to go, like, the cinnamon route? You're going to go to marshmallow route? No, because I think... No, I want to show them something different. Because I think they've been trying to feed black people too much sugar too early in the morning. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, just knowing what I have.
Starting point is 01:47:42 know about my people I feel like after a certain age you don't you know you want to move to like you know a flake or something you know what I mean I feel like after a certain age age right as it's as it's gonna get is a frosty flake you know because it's stable and then you know every every green moon blue moon you know you'll throw something in there you know step out yeah but it's still gonna be like an old school fruit loop type something you know I mean some kind of safe around there a round flake no I don't know I want to have me some serious.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Like, if I had my own lucky chance, guess what my marshmallows would be? What? Stimulus checks. Hmm. I thought it were going to be a cigarette lighter. I'm going to say the stimulus. Stimulus checks. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Brown envelopes. I like it. Yeah, like that's a song. Brown envelopes. That's a shirt. Yeah, that's their government, man. Brown envelope. Brown envelope.
Starting point is 01:48:38 There you go. Woo. Or what about a cashout? logo. Nah, cash have a scam. Because they start making us pay taxes. No, it's gonna feel like you scamming trying to get people's cash out. Right, because don't nobody want to give you the cash app unless you been to send them the money right in front of them. You thinker. Yeah, yeah. Some niggas don't think. That's why I fuck with y'all. Nigger tried to get me one day on Twitter. They got you. Now they miss me. They miss me.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Because I remember you called me, I'm a man, ignore that shit on cash app. I ain't that croaker, I don't need no hundred or twelve dollars. I was like, Jack, you keep some shit going on, bro. Give me your top five freestyleers that you know personally flip, that you seen do it. You're like, that nigga be going on. Hmm. There's a lot of them out there.
Starting point is 01:49:35 That's why this is a hard question. You know, I had to make the shit a little difficult. I would say, um, I got to say, Pokey, Kiki. Hell yeah, darn, Kee. Pat. Um, that shit, me. If I ain't in it, you know, then you put zero in it.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Like the, yeah, the five I know. You said five, I know. That's bad. You know, like, and I've had real, like, you know, sessions with them, you know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes some of the freestyles that y'all get, like, with cameras rolling, ain't the same shit that be happening behind the scenes.
Starting point is 01:50:29 You know what I'm saying? Like, we can be even more raw and not have to filter, so it'd be some bars and some shit said that, you know what I mean, it's just all off the top, but niggas be going into a higher level with that Bruce Leroy, Shogun, glow, you know what I mean? So I've seen the different, I've had ciphers with these people
Starting point is 01:50:48 and, you know what I'm saying, and, you know, seeing where they mind, we have lyrically sparred. And, you know what I'm saying, yeah, you know what I'm saying? We had some great bar for bars. Yeah. You did rap sit at the basement. You did.
Starting point is 01:51:06 What up to you? Brough, let me tell you something. you definitely in my top five on rap sit at the basement, bro. Thank you. You killed that shit. And I think you underrated on that. I'm underrated on a lot of shit,
Starting point is 01:51:20 but I'm overpaid, so I don't get what fuck. There you go. I like that. You know what I'm saying? And it's cool because a lot of times, it's like a church, man. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of flip fans.
Starting point is 01:51:37 It's a lot of niggas that's inspired. by me, but they, you know, for whatever reason, you know, they grew out of it, or you know what I'm saying? Or for whatever reason, you know, it's cool. But at the end of the day, once you, you know, fuck with other shit and fuck with other artists and get to see how they evolve and what they evolve to, excuse me, it comes back to saying,
Starting point is 01:52:01 you'd be like, damn, that nigger been the same the whole time, that nigga, I don't follow the herd, I don't feel like I got to be at every award show. I don't get pissed off if I don't get nominated for Grammys and all of, you know, politics that go with the music. I care about the art, being able to put my shit out like I want to put it out, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:52:24 Yeah, so with this said, it's like a, you know, a pastor, you know, you're having a congregation. Some of your church, people move out of time, you know, people go here, some people come back. Some people lead the church, you feel me, come back. So whether you was a flip, fan then, now, or whatever, it don't matter. I'm grateful either way because I started making music
Starting point is 01:52:46 for God and it's for the art. So I'm smart enough and got enough things going on. I don't have to continue to put out music, but when I hear people tell me, hey, this song got me through this, like I got a record on Underground Legend, Kyle, I should have listened. And I probably had like two, three million people walk up to me and be like, bro, that record, bro,
Starting point is 01:53:08 got me through this, niggas, And then I had a lot of parents, millions of parents come to be. The song, Make Mama Proud. I play that for my song. Yeah, when my son acting up, you see he'll flip on to make his mom proud. You know what I'm saying? So rest of peace with my mom, too, Mary.
Starting point is 01:53:23 So it's like, when people come to me and talk to me about what they like from my catalog and all that, when I'm working on my next music, I make sure it's records on my projects that's talking about, you know what I mean, real life. Like, sometimes, rappers get in the studio, I want to be the superhero, like they ain't having no bad day, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:53:43 Every day it's just perfect, like, nigga, damn, you ain't had no flat tire today? Your partner ain't getting locked up, you feel, what I'm saying, your phone ain't get cut off, or you, nigga, what you're really going through? No, so every day it's just perfect for you, right? That ain't my Ferrari. Did you have a roof stand of Rari, though?
Starting point is 01:54:01 I ain't have no chicken or a hand. All right, but yeah, tabernaca. You get what I'm saying. He learned. He just wants you to feel sorry. I don't. I don't. It's not working.
Starting point is 01:54:13 It's all good. My son works. It's all good though. My son works. So let me ask you this man. When you, those that definitely was flip supporters that, you know what I'm saying? Also, rappers and stuff too, when it was on their way up and then they came on down and then they tried to come back to the congregation and whatnot. Did you say, look at your bitch ass.
Starting point is 01:54:37 Or did you just was like? Or did you just like, you know, hey, man, it's okay. It's a case-by-case scenario, depending on what they be. You know what I'm saying? That's a good question for Carlos, too. The Bible say he'll make your enemies your footstool. So it's been a lot of people, you know what I'm saying? That's flip fans and really flip fans and, you know, have conversations.
Starting point is 01:55:02 And like, yeah, we probably flip, but they won't say it publicly because of whatever reasons, you know what I'm saying? But it's cool because at the end of the day, man, when people look at my art and just see what I bring to the table and that I care about the quality over quantity and I'm always about uplifting motherfuckers and I'm just strictly about my business, man. They go see, man. So, you know, like I say, I just wanted a gold album
Starting point is 01:55:29 and I'm at 25 million albums sold. Dang. So I ain't, and I ain't sold my soul. Yeah. Priceness. Yeah. That's a lot of fucking apple. I'm trying to get my soul back right now.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Man, get it. Get it back. Nobody ever gets it back, Jack. That's the deal? Hell yeah. And the motherfucker you sold it too. He ain't never gonna give it back. It is what it is.
Starting point is 01:55:58 He don't even want it. He's just going to wipe his ass with my soul? He's going to wipe his ass with my soul? Who knows? Who knows? My soul smelled like. My soul smell like. like shit.
Starting point is 01:56:09 I told you not to do it. For real. Stop, man. You came, don't even talk about shit like that because people watch this on the internet and get the research and shit and find out with my soul letter and see who got it. Somebody call you back and they're going to scam me. Jack, I can get it back. All I need is 700 dollars.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Catch that man, and your ass going to do it. Hey, that's a good deal right there. I take that for the 700. He's going to get it out of the trunk of the Ferrari. He's going to get it out the trunk of the Ferrari. He got money. I don't let no money. He's full of shit, bro.
Starting point is 01:56:40 I know him for real. Where that Ferrari is? He got over. Get that 700 out the trunk of the Ferrari? Man. So what's your drive? What you got? I got dropped off.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Man, she's a question. Oh, you could. Okay. Yeah, he can't drive, bro. Yeah, yeah. I'm on the passenger side of my best friend, right? When you were driving, the last car you had, what you had? Oh, I had a 98 Chrysler LeBaron.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Okay. Supercharged. Supercharged. Super, super charred. Yeah, rag top, don't stop. Super Jaws, man. Turquoise. You remember that color?
Starting point is 01:57:17 No, think. You don't, no, no. He just, he just remember if you were a regal I had. Oh, shit, Jack. I had a both wag and jetta, too. How long y'all been knowing each other? We're going on 20 years now. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Next year, about 20 years. Shit. For real, though. Where y'all meet? Oh, man, that's a man. fucking comedy shit. At Uptown, no, no, punchline. At the punchline, bro.
Starting point is 01:57:43 And what's it? In Atlanta. Okay, I read it. Bro, this probably one of the first motherfuckers I met in Atlanta. Real shit. I met this thing when I was just, I just thought I could just show up
Starting point is 01:57:55 and do comedy one time. Yeah. And I audition. A good thing I didn't audition. They might have fucked my whole career up. But I met a whole handful of motherfuckers. I just been knowing them ever since. It's a beautiful person, man.
Starting point is 01:58:12 That's some weird shit to say. Damn. Damn. That niggas crazy. I know him ever since I had a little boy. Love him dearly. Stop lying, all the guys. Hey, man, this is my last time bringing him.
Starting point is 01:58:28 That nigga crazy. That popcorn hitting different, though, man. Thank you. That's the only one you got. What's up in the popcorn? That's the only one I'm pushing right now. But I got some old flavor was coming. coming. We did that to go with the release of the Lepricon 2 album, which was going to be my last album. But my grandma and my mom before they passed, it was like, what do you mean? That's your last
Starting point is 01:58:48 hell no. Drop an album forever. Fuck this shit. I'm working on a film called King Life, so I would still go do music, but they would go ahead on my movie soundtracks. But my granny, like, nah, you got to still do what you got gay. So that's what they told me why they was, you know, before they both passed, you know what I'm saying? I'll tell. Yeah. air artists that come on here, man. Make music forever. Shit, long as this motherfuckers alive, they're going to want to hear that shit. Now, guns and roses and... That's what I'm saying. All these people, they toured to the...
Starting point is 01:59:17 The Rolling Stones is a hundred years old, still out there with their... Mom jeans, all of them. Yeah, so... Two million a show. And that's what they be doing, though, they try to, you know, dispose of hip-hop. Like, you know, but hey, people like Snoop and Cube and all the, you know, the ice teas, the people, the elder statesmen, that are still... you know doing stuff whether it flavor flay whether it's TV or music ice tea acting and you know they're basically showing like nah you can stay relevant come on man snoop got to do make sense no snoop did the Super Bowl man like like gray shout out to gray M 50 everybody who performed
Starting point is 01:59:53 Mary Chee Blas yeah you know like man so we we really do nothing thought of candy popcorn bray hey we're from the home of the candy paint candy popcorn makes sense Make it make sense. Are you the first black leprechaun? Hey man, say man. I ain't going to say I'm the first black lepercun, but I'm the first motherfucking motherfucker to say that shit
Starting point is 02:00:19 and to live that shit. And like, you know, with a leprechaun, you know, you watch the movies, right? I love the movie. Yeah, but, you know, but like we was cool long as you won't play with a nigga go. 100%.
Starting point is 02:00:32 And then when you play with the goal. On your ass. Yeah. You know, so leave a leprechaun alone, man. He'd just be chilling. I just want to get money stabbed the way. That's all they want. Favorite color green.
Starting point is 02:00:44 Favorite color green. All your car is green. Nah, my favorite color green because of the Clovers and me being born in March and St. Patrick's Day and me being from Cloverland and, you know, Clovers, that's my neighborhood, Cloverland. But, nah, my neighborhood, Botany, you know, we got a thing called Botany black where everything was black.
Starting point is 02:01:04 You know what I'm saying? It also go with my Black Panther. upbringing as well. So, you know, shit. Was your daddy a Black Panther or was it? No, not my uncle. Got you. Yeah. So, you know. You ever got a chance to even, do you tell you like A. Trek Brown stories or if he knew the stories? I plead the flip. Got you. I plead the flip. Just know I'm smarter than I look. Would you look smarter than a motherfucker, man? Nah, I'm tatted up and braids. You know, I look like the typical stereotype.
Starting point is 02:01:38 No, bro, you don't age. Oh yeah, I'm a vampire. Vampires we don't age, man. You're playing, bro. People gonna hear this shit on the internet. I know, you know what I'm saying. But now, you know, that's what I've been telling. Yeah, I can see it on the conspiracy theory page.
Starting point is 02:01:51 Now, little flip admits to being a vampire. Watch this clip. The nigga gonna be sitting there pointing at you. Watch this clip. Watch this clip. The vampire, didn't I tell you? Didn't I tell you? Didn't I tell you?
Starting point is 02:02:03 Did I tell you? I told you, the people who make music and run the music. The music industry is vampires, my nigger. We drink Exotic Pop. Come on, man. Not blood, we drink Exotic Pop. Stop, man, you gonna have motherfuckin' up shit, Flip.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Nah, it's all good, man. They look it up. Just look it up. You're a vampire for real? Not like literally, but my, my. Your spirit. My spirit, my work, I come alive more, like, there's less people moving around at these hours.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Like, in Ais time, like, shit that I was into, and the people that I was around, like, it was certain places. Nightlife shit. Yeah, nightlife shit that, like, the underworld go to, you know what I'm saying? And you can't be no hole and be at these places and maneuver with, you know what I'm saying, Jerry and, you know, different things of that nature. Right. Like, so just the whole being able to be in that and absorb that what America, you know, portrayed to me, like, you have to go to bed and get up from nine to five and work.
Starting point is 02:03:03 This is the, like, those are the hours that they programmed that if, You're not doing that that, those hours that you're not doing nothing positive. This is the only way. So when I was able to just to see like, damn, we had screw house at three, four in the morning, five in the morning, we're creating. Like, nigga, this is, I love these hours.
Starting point is 02:03:20 There ain't no traffic, nigger. What's so bad about these hours? And for me- You can get some burp. Man. There'd be too many crackheads out though, man. Yeah, but we be in. We ain't trying to just be out.
Starting point is 02:03:31 It's just, those hours, I don't know, nigger. It's just, and then when you see the sun come up, you're like, yeah, it's time. to go to bed, nigga. Then you wake up, you get back to it again. When vampires get to come out in the day time, I'm gonna fuck with it. That's what they're gonna scare you, though, because I was on here talking some shit like that one time, and then the motherfucker posted a picture of me from goddamn 1800s, and I was like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Man. They gonna find that picture of you from three, four lifetimes ago. Little flip was not lying. Here he is in 1695. Hey. Find me, man. I wanna see that shit. Hopefully that's somebody I'm really keen to.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Oh man, they're gonna find your person. To a vampire, that's kind of cold. We need more shit like that though so black people can get our chance to use our imagination. They got the white girl, got buffeting and vampires left. I miss-up, man. Where is the black girl version of that? We gotta make it. We got enough vampires.
Starting point is 02:04:31 Gotta make it. I wanna just see the black hair. The black kids version of Harry Potter. You gotta make it. Little black kids started out doing magic and shit ain't all in the hood. Why don't we make it? Come on.
Starting point is 02:04:43 The Black Star Wars. How to make it. On the darker side of the galaxy. Come on, don't forget Billy D. Williams now. Hey, the black white chicks. But black chicks, though. You know what I'm saying? Imagine you know how they did a white chick's movie,
Starting point is 02:04:57 but you're mad at black sheep. Like, you know. All right, let's make it controversial, though. Two white girls and they both got black kids. black kids. Like two up-and-coming rappers. And still call it black chicks? Call it white chicks.
Starting point is 02:05:08 Now we can't call it white chicks. They got a white chicks out. But I'm just saying we do a reverse. Wider chicks. Whiteer chicks. But, you know, like just something that's like, remake a comedy. I got an idea for a comedy, but I ain't gonna say it on the show.
Starting point is 02:05:25 Oh, okay. I got a bunch of ideas for a comedy. Yeah, well, let's not say it anymore on the show, because, you know, they go, like, you said it on the show. Mm-hmm. Really? Plea flip.
Starting point is 02:05:35 Yeah. I want to see a New York undercover in Atlanta. Hmm. You know what I'm saying? That should be cold to fuck. But don't nobody want to play the police right now. You wouldn't play the police right now, bro? Yeah, yeah, I told you a couple episodes.
Starting point is 02:05:50 I would love to play an asshole cop that solve all the murders. By myself. I'm going to get... You don't want no partner. My character, he's this close to getting fired. But I'm the only motherfucker at the shit that knows something. that knows something I got very unconventional methods but they still work you get what I'm saying like I'm the only motherfucker on the force that responds to like
Starting point is 02:06:16 like community acceptable ass whoop who was the coolest black cop the cover on TV Eddie Murphy right axopholy yeah mm-hmm no no no no the motherfucker from Sanford and son with the uh yeah the daddy from 227 lester yeah he's about with lester or Carl winslow nothing about Carl winslow said police as nigger yeah like at the crib he was Carl winslow editing them daddy yeah but we don't know how many he was in Chicago too what if Carl Winslow was there today Larry Hoover got locked up Because they never told us how long he was on the force and clearly he had seniority
Starting point is 02:07:07 because when you seen somebody tell Carl what to do. Free Larry Hoover, too, free Larry Hoover. Free everybody who need to be free. In real life, free all who need to be free, free Riloh. Yeah, yeah, sitting everybody home. Yeah. Niggins get the point. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:24 Fuck with that judge, say. Ain't nobody fin to do all that goddamn time, letting them go home. Real though. Free Al Kelly, man. Shut the, Jack. Jack, no, no, no. Man, I want to hit chocolate factor four.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Jack, stop, man. Okay, I can't free every fucking bite it, man. Shit, some people gotta stay. Some people gotta fucking stay. Well, at least get the niggas studio inside, Jake. Can we do that? No, man. We're not gonna do none of that shit.
Starting point is 02:07:55 It's stupid, duh. He told you, man. No, Jack. Nothing, none of that's gonna happen. We don't want to hear from him ever again. I mean, this look at his hell. You do your thing, but I can't promote that on this platform, Jay. About I was talking to say, get your people.
Starting point is 02:08:14 What is wrong with you, man? Yeah, man. I officially diagnose you with just be mute-anxiety disorder. Be mute thriller. I now ordain you mute thriller. He got social anxiety disorder, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Ain't no help for you, man.
Starting point is 02:08:35 It's over for me. Yeah, man. We got to check him in the nearest padded room. Call Ryan tell Ryan to go on. Y'all saying what you're saying right now, but I bet y'all still got this nigger in your playlist. Stop it, Jack. No, we know.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Not on purpose. This is stupid, bro. What's just saying, like, what type of nigga go through his shit and delete some shit? For real? If it's just so having to pop up. When you actually sat down and went through some shit and deleted something in mass?
Starting point is 02:09:15 I don't remember. You pull up your iPhone right now, you probably still got three, four hundred songs by dudes on that bitch. Even ones you didn't even know it was his, it's on that. Easy. Easy.
Starting point is 02:09:32 Look, you fucking with the digital world, man. Yeah, man. I'm fucking with a lot of different things that are... Metaverse and all that of shit. I'm about to do a concert in the metaverse. Crypto. We got the Joe Son Empire, the Joe Son coin. Need to get a crypto, bro.
Starting point is 02:09:48 Call that shit, leprecoins. That's crazy. Damn! Hey, well, let's... You came up with that then? Yeah, now! Let's go, let's do it together. But right now, I do have some.
Starting point is 02:10:01 a crypto coming of, the Joe son, coin. So shout out to Ken Lee, man, you know. My guy, you know, he's just doing a lot of different things, bro, for the world in the community. And it's just great to be able to do it. And when I do things, we just do it, man, you know. Some people feel like they got always collar news, hey, I'm about to do this.
Starting point is 02:10:23 It'll be a hell of a campaign slogan. Yeah, what? When we do things, we just do it. Yeah. message. Oh, for me. I like it. Well, shit, man, we can talk this shit all night.
Starting point is 02:10:40 We appreciate all the gifts and popcorn and weed and game. Yeah, man. And the soda, man. It's delicious. What can they get some of this? What can they get some of this? What can like? Exoticpop distribution.com.
Starting point is 02:10:58 We're in a lot of states, man, but we just dropped our cream. man. Yeah, what if you want, if you want it brought straight to the house? Y'all only know I used to work in fast food, huh? Uh-oh. Yeah. So you know. We got that shit back up like he came, you feel.
Starting point is 02:11:12 Networking, man, the gas guards, man. My company, man, that, you know, we, uh, partnered up with, man. Now where's the gas guards available? Hey, man. Hallie. Where, Francisco. So basically wherever your marijuana is legal. Correct.
Starting point is 02:11:33 We're based out of San Francisco though, man. I'm just like, I'm about making shit happen, man. Instead of just sitting around talking about what you don't do, I'm just about making it happen, man. The only person in your way for you to get to where you need to be is you. And if more of us, especially as minorities, take accountability for whatever place there in in life instead of blaming it.
Starting point is 02:12:00 I'm like, oh, it's your fault. I ain't make it, nah, it's your fault. Come to go. Nobody put a key in my back and say, hey, go give it with DJ Screw, go. Go rap battle, go. Like, I really got out there and got it. So, you know, I represent the people
Starting point is 02:12:13 who go put their hard work in. You work hard so you can work smart, man. If you can do it, man, I can do it. And if I can do it, you can do it, man. God got us all. I'm fun and flip. Mr. Zatty Pop, Mr. Like a Pimp, Mr. Popado. Yeah, the Burr-Berry Jack, man, the throwback king,
Starting point is 02:12:31 the one that makes you niggas, wanna wear yellow diamonds, yeah, yeah, the platinum grill, permanent type shit, Mr. Double Cup, all that, I could go on for hours. Look, I know this your first time in the trap, but it's literally the last time in the trap, bro. You're helping us celebrate tonight, we get ready to move to our new studio.
Starting point is 02:12:55 Oh, look. Congrats. Congratulations. The whole trip to the trap is complete with our new face bringing some artifacts through here from the little flip collection. Newface won the coldest hip hop connoisseurs in the game. For sure.
Starting point is 02:13:20 And I know he brought some dope shit through here. First of all, I want to do say it's a testament to what he said. to what he said, brother. I ran an tournament to the VET award. Told him, you know, good friends with Carlos in the 85 South Show. He personally gave me his number. We got it locked in.
Starting point is 02:13:35 And he also gave me some of his product. And I took a sip every day. You know what I'm saying? Man, my cool cup juice, yeah. I'm gonna get you out, son. So he made, he did give me that. And that's like he said, memories of everything. And since you're outta freestyle king,
Starting point is 02:13:51 maybe it's the idea, like if I pull something out, You know what I'm saying? You just kind of go out the top of your dome, but I'm gonna just come out with some shit, man. You just let me know. Oh, it's eddy. You're serious. You know, we got to.
Starting point is 02:14:03 Charles. All right. Okay. You got the lucky charms. We got the joystick. We got that. You got the first major shit in a different version. Matter of fact, the boot leg.
Starting point is 02:14:19 That's the one I did when I was fucking with Who Kid. What else you got in that bag? A magazine. I forgot I was in that fast. I don't have no copies of it. I remember that picture. I remember that chum. That night I drunk some liquor.
Starting point is 02:14:37 And I don't drink liquor like that. I used to take pictures like that. I see the chain. I remember that day. It was a fun day. I'd be in Miami like gunplay. Come on. A little flip the G.
Starting point is 02:14:54 on the cover. I was on straight out of Cashville with Young Bucker. I still got that outfit in my closet. My money old, I call it Lou Gosset. See, when I was talking about them jerseys, I was doing it. Bitch, I'm too raw like Eddie Murphy. Come on.
Starting point is 02:15:14 Oh, no limit like Percy. Pull a chopper out, she runs like she cursey. That's David Banner. That's my partner, he from Jacktime. My name ain't Curtis. I don't back down. Like my nigga Curtis, I don't back down. I'm never ever nervous.
Starting point is 02:15:33 I'm in jack time. That was when Shine was in the States. For he did political, getting paid. Yeah. You gotta feel me. I went to a psychic and said, you gotta hear me. So much pain a nigger went through as a youngster. Oscar the grouch, these rappers in the dumpster.
Starting point is 02:15:56 That's Luda, I did chicken and beer. The new crib I bought, I just hit a deer. Sike, it sounded good, but it's deer in my crib, in my area. I crank the bass up like a stereo. Yeah. Then show up to the barrier. Then prank call everyone who care for you. I remember that cover, nigger.
Starting point is 02:16:21 Carl Danny Glover, nigger. It was a cold-ass day, nigga. That chinchilla was black and gray, nigga. Nigger, I remember that. This freestyle shit, it's like playing pity pat. Shout out to my partner, D. Mills. Free Cair star, I went to Catskills. Like Mike Tyson, I got a new license.
Starting point is 02:16:51 I'm like M. Bison. Come on. That's my first source cover. That shit was fly. I had a red eye. That's why I had the shades on. Because I had that purple haze blowing strong. I remember that fucking Dickie suit.
Starting point is 02:17:10 Hey, Pillar, you got that dicky suit. Show it to that nigger. That's that motherfucker from that cover, nigger. I'm from H-time. We ride butter, nigger. Chopping on blades, we call them cutter, nigger. I'm rich, did I stutter, nigger? If I did, nigger, who the fuck cares?
Starting point is 02:17:32 A lot of billionaires out here, but who the fuck shares? If I get a bill, I'm gonna bring my nigger up. Come on. What? Oh, you didn't went back to the days. We see three, two, fifth ward boys, and even face. view the diary, never seen a man cry till I've seen a man die. Man, I had this tape like 22 times.
Starting point is 02:17:58 That's a classic nigger, remember, Jesse James? Pull that thing, I like he, Jesse James. I got a bike made by Jesse James. Don't think about it if you think Jesse Lane. Little flip, I keep it gold. Oh, he just showed me a picture when I had a fro And the murder doll, who y'all never heard of y'all? I'm 41, not my curtain call.
Starting point is 02:18:26 I ain't go hang the mic up. I ain't going to hang the knikes up. I'm going to claim the white cup, because everywhere a white cup. You'll see that motherfucker with me like my twins. Jamming different type of shit like Spragger Beans. Lottie-D, we like to party. My white chick got double D's.
Starting point is 02:18:45 I nicknamed her dolly. I beg your pardon. I'm eating at Olive Garden. All these rappers we go put them on a meal carton if they do a freestyle with a nigga, but I'm in gear one. Niggas say they top, top, top tier, but they in tier one.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Nigger, I'm up the upper echelon. I'm an Autobot and a deceptica. Nigger, I'm emotionally scarred through the bullshit. Half a tank of gas, but I still keep a full clip. You got to. Gotta keep the clip full. Nigger, I'm on that 23 shit, nigger, big bull, nigger slam on you. Like onyx, nigger.
Starting point is 02:19:27 I used to get the wings, nigger, rant shit, unix, nigga, a strip club. Leave $100 in the tip club. Yeah. Yeah, I really lived and made like a pimp stuff. Come on. I mean, bitches bringing cash and nigger smoking trash. I told them put that down and come invest in gas. I put them on the kilos and hollered at the mingos.
Starting point is 02:19:49 He bought it from Chico. Yeah. A little flip. 85 South show. We out did big. Amazing. Yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 02:19:59 I'm going to flip out, man. We love y'all. Thank y'all. Hell yeah. Keep Jack right there. We got one. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long?
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