The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Lil Yachty's $20 Million Story w/ DC Young Fly + Karlous Miller + Clayton English

Episode Date: May 21, 2021

Lil Yachty stops through the 85 South Show studio to discuss fame, women and big BIG money with this generations greatest comedic philosophers - Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly, and Clayton English. DC, ...Karlous and Lil Yachty (also known as Lil Boat) - were all in the reboot film How High 2 and share some inside jokes about the making of the record-breaking film. The 24-year-old Atlanta rapper is one of the greatest at handling criticism and shares insight on how to overcome the negative options and perspective of others. At the same time, Lil Yachty pulled up to ask some of his own burning questions and the crew do their best to give the most truthful answers! “Is this world a simulation?” and “how do you know if a woman truly likes you for you?” are just a few of the questions that get the conversation percolating. It gets deep quickly!Lil Yachty has seen a lot after rising to fame at an early age and he shares what he’s learned about building his name in the streets. He breaks down how he executed his plan to gain relevance in the culture before starting to make music hits like “Minnesota” “ COFFIN ” and “ HIT BOUT IT .” After all those hit records, he balled out - spending over 250k on Christmas gifts for his mother. He goes to say that he’s spent over 20 million on balling out and flexing! A feat that The 85 South Show applauds! He bought 8 cars - which got Karlous’ attention - and a penthouse in midtown Atlanta!Yachty has a unisex nail polish coming out and Karlous had to ask him about it. You’ve got to hear Lil Boat’s reasoning for getting into this all-new business. Plus, he shares his interest in starting an all-new frozen pizza company…though he’s still looking for a name for the brand! Clayton English, Karlous and DC have a million boat-based word play jokes throughout the show! Yachty hasn’t stopped the music hustle and recently released a new mixtape that he titled “Michigan Boy Boat” which features the song “Stunt Double” with Rio Da Yung OG. The tape features a slew of Michigan rappers including Sada Baby, Babyface Ray, Veeze, Icewear Vezzo, and Tee GrizzleyWith J.O.N laying a reverential beat, Karlous and DC start a sermon-esque song explaining how that pwussy works - crafting a new hit song “Giving it Up!” The crew break into a highly-informational but super hilarious song about how men and women are going knock the boots! You don’t want to miss this hilarious episode with the funniest podcasters in the game!Hit Our Website for more info: https://www.85southshow.com/Get our custom merchandise: https://85apparelco.com/Subscribe To our Channel: bitly.com/85tubeWATCH KARLOUS' MILLER's COMEDY SPECIAL! https://vimeo.com/ondemand/karlousmil...FOLLOW THE CREWKARLOUS MILLER - https://www.facebook.com/karlousm/DCYOUNGFLY - https://www.facebook.com/DcYoungFly1/CHICO BEAN - https://www.facebook.com/OldSchoolFool/Director - JOE T. NEWMAN - www.ayoungplayer.comProducer CHAD OUBRE - https://www.instagram.com/chadoubre/Producer - LANCE CRAYTON - https://www.instagram.com/cat_corleone_/It's Jon - https://www.instagram.com/holaj_o_n/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:50 Derita. I don't want to buy that kind of an accident. I'm going to put your What, bitch, I don't think I got some mail from it. Niggas waiting on their stimulus, like, when the mail comes. Nicky, you do not own your shit, like when the bills come. Damn. My bad is going to be.
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Starting point is 00:05:06 Oh, what that's that? Oh, thank you. This for this? Come on. Yeah. Come on. We ain't know what you want to do and what you're not doing,
Starting point is 00:05:15 so you know what I'm saying? I'm not going to smoke dope on camera, but they could have smoked some dump on the side. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, okay. We want to be a respect to that now, so. All ready, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Pleasure. Get you on my drums, working with the streets, you're stealing me for walls, I was struck it on the sister, she was calling me her mistress. Y'all ready? Let's run it.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Doreena. Dorita! I need to get a I need to get pat That's my lawyer He got me from trucks And it stacks for a girl He took care of boy
Starting point is 00:06:19 I need to get pat Oh my case was all now For real? All I had to do was get the Car license Because the pandemic stretched out So long that they were just like Like, niggas, just get your carry license, and we'll drop it.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I said that person, you know it? Like, do you get the carrying license? Nothing. Just go down there. And you get it in 30 days. You just don't get it right now. You got your house? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Get one. Kid one, bro. You got to share something? I had to go to a cop county court house, but you can just go to your county court house or whatever. And, you feel out to pay work beforehand. I think it's like $90, something. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Man. Because if I would have got caught at the airport with it, they would have let me go. Even though I was in the airport with it, I had to conceal carry. Like, they would just be like, all right, go put your gun somewhere. What's your need? Which one? You want this or some of this wax? Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:08:15 Welcome to the trap. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. See, you've been locked down with my nigga Jake. Why ain't Jake? Yeah. That nigga is funny as hell to me, man. He's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Yeah, yeah. Got to get him. You gotta get them on that. You don't know nothing about that. You don't know nothing about that, boy. Ain't nobody said nothing, you ain't heard nothing. You don't know nothing. Yeah, you made these bits?
Starting point is 00:09:05 This shit's hard. Yeah, yeah, I need these. This one and that last one. Talk about this one. You got a full last schedule. You'll be recording a whole lot of music. All day, every day. For real?
Starting point is 00:09:23 That's all I do. That hard, though. Did you ever think it'd be this big, man? I mean, nah, but I hope. Nah, but I hope. I wasn't positive, but I hoped it would be this big. This shit probably even bigger than that. All I can do is hope and pray.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Put in the work. That you do. I can make a marathon around. Keep that shit gone. Right. We gonna jump this shit off, get this shit in here. Who chips? Chips.
Starting point is 00:10:13 They open? Oh, shit. Fucking chips. I would say G.C., but... Floddy yo chips. That nigga would I ate. You keeping that? No, you can talk that?
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yes, sir. I'm gonna lie. I was gonna lie, I got really hot on the last show, last show. Felt like it was getting real tense, I would feel like an asshole, that's hole. Then los took it away. I'm like, yeah, he saved the day. Because I didn't, I'm getting hot on my last show.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I feel like an asshole. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. What's that? Hey! Hey! You know what I'm saying? Slowly, for sure, can let me four know what the head going on.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I already got like three four stoves. They're gonna put in tomorrow, so everyone I'm just ready to get these bitches on the road. Turn it up, then. You got to, man. Talk about it. Some goods masters? Yeah, you got one. I got the vegan sheds, too.
Starting point is 00:11:43 You got the vegan shit, man. I don't know, I ain't the regular ones had meat in. Yeah, it's some bullshit. They got me in? This is it got me in it? I'm just saying, they got vegan blood. Now, this right here,
Starting point is 00:11:57 this is a regular one. This some gags. I don't want this shit going to have you fucked up. This is Purple Larry. Purple Larry. Yeah, Larry Cushin. This shit, I just had granite before I left, but this shit, fine.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I ain't had no layered cushions. Oh, nine. I'm gonna stud on that. Damn. I can't un-ride a bit. I gotta break it down. Yeah, it ain't a little. Yeah, that ain't the dutch.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I missed a little dutching, man. That this shit just feels. Y'all didn't, you still don't smoke yet? Life ain't hit you hard yet. He got too many w at 23. He got it 24 August. That shit doesn't flew by, nigga. You're fucking around and got grown, you ain't the young nigga no more.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Hey, when we shot high two, niggins. You were 22? Yeah. That was that long. That wasn't even that long ago. I felt like 27. It was two years ago. You made me feel all the hell, Nick.
Starting point is 00:12:55 My boy y' out here getting money and he didn't even grow yet. Even grow yet. Say what? My boy out of hell getting money and he ain't even grown yet. Because when you get up, your balls are gonna be sacked into the flow. My boy gets $10 dollars money and he ain't even grown yet. That's facts though. Two things never stop growing.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Facts. Your balls in your ears. For real. Google it. Your ears still grow. Yeah, that's why I feel like every week, like it's hard to get these got their mask over my ear. I'm like, damn, why I just feel like I'm looking high?
Starting point is 00:13:36 Like I'm double looping this motherfucker and shit. Like I just move on my ear. And it feel tight, like my mask keep growing on my face. Real. Yeah, man, for real. You gotta make sure you keep some elasticity in your nuts sack. Fuck around and get to sitting on your balls is over. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:13:55 That's why you see old niggins and they sit down, They'd be like, hey, man. They gotta swing his balls in first. What? What? They got to set them balls down. A young man is like plop. All the niggins be looking at,
Starting point is 00:14:14 let you just sit out like that. You're fucking around and sit on that old sack and you're being passed out for about four, five seconds. You're gonna bump. Oh. My voice sent a sharp pain to your cerebral cortex. I ain't gonna lie. I was scared myself. I thought my nuts was twisted.
Starting point is 00:14:30 No. It didn't, yeah, I was like, hold on. This ain't. Little ball was on the right side. I have not bought pants because of shit like that. No. These y'all ain't got to grow with old people. I don't know. What are they about old people?
Starting point is 00:14:50 They like to be naked at their house. What? What, my daddy? Hell no. Don't say it. I'm talking about I sit on, he would sit in his recliner. And you know old people wear white drawers. They let you know, yeah, they don't tell her what's any droves, you hear me, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:07 He let them bitch hang, dog. I know you ain't lying, because my granddad used to open the door and just drawl. And you know, the worst part about that, is them drawls did never fit my granddad. I think my granddad lived his whole life and never had a pair of drawers that fit them. My granddad was the biggest drawers. They was huge. He holding the bids is up. What you want?
Starting point is 00:15:32 They was huge. What you need? He had your grandma put a hem in his drawing. That is hilarious, man. These drawers was big and stretched out. Looked like they're supposed to go over something. It's like he supposed to have a diaper on, then put them drawers on. Those were overdrawls.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And they were sagging and long. In every course. That's terrible. That's what motivated me to work so hard. I know. You was gonna get you some drawl. That I'm probably, I'm probably first generation of fitting draws in my face.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Because I know he passed that shit down to my daddy. Because he never knew what size draws he truly wore. So I ain't gonna tell somebody else. He fucking stupid. Just shit you have to deal. to deal with. Is it that time? That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Is it time? Hold on. Think it's time? That was time, though. Don't you hate with some piece of the blood get on your left. We're trying to roll the blood all smooth and sexy. But you can't because you got a blonde on your left. You know, it's so fitting that we all rolling and smoking blunts right here.
Starting point is 00:16:49 That's it. Listen, man. Because, you know, we were all in how high. You know? We definitely wore gay, violet. I left. Yeah. How hot, too.
Starting point is 00:16:58 For real. Yeah. And we broke numbers. Yeah, he fired. And I fired this thing. Yeah, I fired him. I had to let him go. Why you let me go?
Starting point is 00:17:07 Because, man, he had them holes in there, round the money and shit. You know how them white folks is. They ain't gonna say shit to him as that, though. That shit fall back on me. I'm the manager. Flick poorly on me. Plus, I had been telling him. He wasn't a good employee anymore.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I'm glad you fired him. He got the benton on you, drop top ain't that. And not only did he had a drop top, but a nigga went in space. Exactly. Came up the screen. I just didn't understand why he was still delivering food in the benton.
Starting point is 00:17:37 He had to start on you one time. I felt real, it was personal. It was real personal. Hey man, welcome back to the 85 South Show. Yeah, this is a black show. So I can do that. I can say welcome back before I actually say welcome. They get it.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Oh, you can say welcome black. Oh! Welcome black to the 85 South Show. But wait a minute. What about the minorities? We got a lot of minorities that watch them. How would you say that? How would you say that?
Starting point is 00:18:11 Welcome black to the 85 South Carolina. Just come in here and be still and be quiet. Yeah, you good. But we got one of our real player partners in here with us today, man. Yes, sir. A real A-Town nigga. This is a mom, man. He really been doing his thing, though.
Starting point is 00:18:28 You diggin' what I'm saying? He really been doing his thing, underrated. And has become one of the biggest rappers in the fucking world. Talk your shit, Gabe, about it. And I only can hold it on weight amongst other stars that's on the major label. Hey, man. He took a world by surprise and did it on his own turn. He ain't let up.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I think he called himself a boat before he even had one. Yeah. Come on, man. This nigga got, you might know him as little yachting. But you might know him as a little boat. Mm-hmm. The nigga cold like Minnesota. You did what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:59 You feel me? The nigga, he didn't bust up on us again. The nigga got his own motherfucking nail polish coming out. You got your own nail polish coming up. Unisex. That means anybody can wet. That boy crazy. Hey man, without further ado.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Let's go crazy. Go crazy. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! What's up, G. Come up to the track.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Come on, man. I'm just trying to catch her. I don't know when you. y'all, like, recording not, y'all is like... We've been recorded! And your teeth got diamonds in it? Down! Damn!
Starting point is 00:19:33 We don't even need no ice cubes. With the lady at the meeting green sleep. God damn. God damn! This nigga, get his drink hot. Yeah, give it hot. I already got cubes in my mouth. What's the minute up, boat?
Starting point is 00:19:48 God damn. Can I get some sunglasses, please? This thing is crazy. and just trying to work. Work for all our young so I can play with a mode. You're working on, y'all, you're doing it. You're busting your shit, man. You did, not only that, you get in movies and producing them.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Oh, oh, oh. What's up? Producer title. The agreement. You're gonna jump into the ownership first then. You did. So I know you've been in the industry for a minute now. You hear everybody say, you know, own your shit,
Starting point is 00:20:20 own your shit, man. Like, how does that, how does that hit you as, you know, one of the, New generation performance and shit. They ain't got your business together. We were talking about, like, man, shit. Like, all that shit, all your career. To be in a young boss. Well, it's important, you know, first to know what you're getting into.
Starting point is 00:20:35 You know, a lot of young artists, you know, are so eager to, you know, maybe change their life or experience something that they just quick and jump into situations that they don't really know what they get any stuff into and end up fucked up, you know, down the line when stuff started popping off or when they finally got somebody who can open their eyes to whatever it is. They can't do shit because they signed to rich nigger records.
Starting point is 00:20:59 We own all that shit. That shit you even thought about doing. Your brain. I own that. Nick, I own your name. I did. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Keep figuring. And while I get paid. Every time that nigger lights a blunt, I get $3. How many dollars do you? Charge that nigger smoking. How many dollars do you get? Three.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Why that foe? That's what we agreed on. I'm not a greedy man. I'm not a greedy man. I just want what I agreed to, baby. I'm not greedy. Now you signed to me for $6,500. You want me now.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I want my music. I want my shit. $3, man. We're talking to that shit, man. That's funny as hell. He said, I want my music. Hey, buddy, we got paperwork. I want my music.
Starting point is 00:21:58 You want me to read a contract with me? I want my shit. Hey, hey, you better not cut your hair. We own that hairstyle too, baby. I want my shit. That is funny, bro. I want my view. I want my shit.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I want my shit. That is crazy down. You have size. $6,500. $6,500. Up front. That's crazy. My this thing is the best, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Oh. He's really signing for stuff like, real, man, a lot of these deals is fucked up. But you know how it is, because it's a lot of people out here just moving out of desperation, too. You know, that shit doesn't,
Starting point is 00:22:39 that shit be sounding like a lot when you ain't got shit. It's unfortunate, but that's just, that's life. I want to tell you, my first deal, I never signed. I heard my first deal with $2,500, and I needed a nigga to pay. I paid the rest of my lawyer feed. How much was the lawyer feed? Oh, no, I just gave it through.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I think it was probably like 30-sum, but I was so fucked up, I was like, look, I ain't got time to keep finding these nigga peeve, just pay these lawyer feeds, I'm for him. You shouldn't have never mentioned that. That nigga gonna watch this episode. I'm like, speaking of witch. It says in perpetuity.
Starting point is 00:23:15 A nigga, I breached that contract, I got out my contract and the judge, and I had, I got out my contract, and the judge was like, I went back and got my money back. Was you under age? I was crazy. Now I'm grown.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I knew what I signed. But you know, the breach in the contract, they was already being breached, I was just wasn't knowledgeable enough to know that I've been was out of my contract. That's crazy. You see you. You was blessed though, right?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Your Pops is in the music business? No, my dad's a photographer. Oh, okay, okay. But I mean, he shot a lot of celebrities. Yeah. But he ain't done nothing about music. I mean about the music business. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I was just blessed with, you know, my mom is real business savvy. And so she was, she was real heavy. And so I got on, she quit. And then, you know, came on my management team as my business manager. And she's just, I was thankful to have someone who truly care about me, look over everything, all my business. What was that moment for you when it's like, I'm here, I have a rhyme? Now I'm in the music business.
Starting point is 00:24:15 What you mean? Like, when you hit, you like, oh. Shit, that really changed, right? Uh, probably like, when I, my first, when I first, uh, 2016, when I first signed my contract, I got this penthouse at the Atlantic, right in the city. In the penthouse, I had the corner suite. And so you got a whole west of Georgia on this side and then like east of Georgia, I think. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:42 Oh, I don't know. So I could see Stone Mountain and I can see all the way in Kennesaw. And my neighbor was Julio Jones and Youngdorf. And I was 18 years old. And I think one night I was just taking the shower because my shower had these top, my bathroom had this, like still in the floor, like windows. And I was taking a shower, I had the lights off.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And I was just looking out the window and I just saw the whole city. And it was just like, damn. You're blessed, young name. I'm here. You're blessed. That right. That was a moment when I was just like, damn, I really made it.
Starting point is 00:25:16 That's the shit you can't put no price tag. That and Christmas, my first Christmas as a celebrity, I, because my mother spent her whole life getting me gifts, me and my sister, I never had that money and getting anything, so first Christmas I went crazy, like, spent like quarter, all on her, you know what I'm saying? Everything was her, and that was like her first time getting gifts and she was, she felt so special.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That was crazy, it was crazy. It was crazy. And just to see her smile on my mama. I spent a QP. You're going to QP. You're close. I brought my mom a career a little. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Yeah. So. That's what it's all about, man. No, 100%. It's being able to change the whole, you know, projection of what your family name going. You feel me? But it felt good though. It felt good.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Like you said, you was never able to do that. And it's not that you didn't want to do it. Of course not. Of course not. I was just subject in school. You're obligated. You know what I'm saying? She kind of took care of you. Not saying like you knew, like, I wanted to do this.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Well, yeah, I mean, I'll probably say I was probably a little obligated just because I gave a hell. That's what I mean. As a young nigga in school and outside, I gave her hell, you know what I worried her. I just was like, I ain't like school. Like, I wasn't like skipping now,
Starting point is 00:26:37 but I just, you know, a nigga in school, jokes, laughing. I was getting in trouble type shit, man. And she always stressed, like, my mom's real, like, professional, so she wanted me to go to college. So towards the end of the senior year, I went really forward and it was stressing her out.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And she was going through it. So I felt good to be able to, you know, repay her for her. Did you finish? Huh? Did you finish? I didn't finish. I dropped out and started my career.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I want to finish. Yeah, I want to get a psychology degree. Go back? Yeah. You're rich now, just tell them, do a show and tell them to give you an honorary degree. Yeah. I want to, I want to do the work.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Well, I want to do it. I do want to learn, like, the ways of psychology, you know. Of course, the base classes, base course is going to suck, you know, but... Psychology is actually very interesting. Yeah, extremely. Yeah. But what's your journey in the music, though, because when you hit, you wasn't doing music that long?
Starting point is 00:27:33 No. You stole it with, like, six months? Yeah, I would say, I mean, I dropped out Alabama State, and I think, uh, September, and I, I signed my deal by... I put my first mixtape out of March, and then I signed a deal by, like, April. a million dollar deal, so I was probably like six months, yeah. Damn, so I had to get buds take off, like, you just went from dropping out, so you did graduate from high school.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Oh yeah, I graduated. Oh, okay. You're good. And I went to college and I dropped out of college. Oh, okay. Okay, you're good then. You got, you got a problem. You ain't gonna scratch you now, but you got a diploma. No, not for sure.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I got my degree. So you're saying when you dropped out of Alabama State, you just said, fuck it. I said, I think I went to school a little bit. a little bit early, so I was younger than everybody in my class. So I told myself, like, I really want to try my dreams to see if I can achieve my goals.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And I know I'm younger than everybody, so how about I take a year off? That way, if it don't work, I come back, I still be the same age as everybody in my class. Because I was, like, literally, probably the youngest person in my class. I was 17 in college. Oh, yeah, you couldn't even last year.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I was 17 in my first year. So everybody else was 18, somewhere 19. So that's like, if I take a year, if I can come back and if I'm still in, I'd be, still be the same age, everybody. And it didn't take a year. It took six months. Before the morning.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Nick, smarty head. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You were either smarter, you started school. Too soon. When I started, I started school just a little early. Yeah. And my mom always told me she always stressed, like, you know, if you want to do something, have a plan.
Starting point is 00:29:03 You know, and I, towards the end of the same year, I started just planning my life because, like, and I couldn't see it going any way, but, like, this way. You know what I'm saying? Which, of course, back then, the chances were extremely slim. You know, it's a lot easier now to, you know, the platforms have opened up so much for the Internet, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:25 as far as, like, music and getting on and viralness. But back 2016, it wasn't that simple, you know, like, especially the sound and wave that we started, that's now a thing, it's colorful hair, there's all this shit that we do, like, that we did, wasn't, like, the thing, you know, I took a lot of beatings for it, you know. That's what we're going to get to next, man.
Starting point is 00:29:44 You handle criticism better than a whole lot of rapids. Well, you know, it is, I think early on in my career because it used to affect me hard and, like, it used to really, like, hit me until I started realizing, like, you know, it doesn't change anything. Like, my business is still what it is. Like, I'm still getting checks.
Starting point is 00:30:02 My whole family's still good, you know. Like, it'd be a different situation if, like, you know, people was hating and criticized me and I was fucked up, you know? But I'm too blessed to even, like, let negativity hurt me. Like, I started understanding, like, You know, you can't, ain't no way that you could just live this king life and not, and they not come with, you know, the negatives.
Starting point is 00:30:20 You got to take the good with the bad. You know what I'm saying? And my good always outweighs and, you know, the bad, you know, because I could be, I remember life, you know, just six years ago. So, and it could always be worse. Right. You should like an old niggas mad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:35 That was, that was, that was. And the craig, you know what it is? Not too long ago someone said to me, like, have you ever had a hater that was the, better than you. No, never. Like, ain't nobody ever hate on me who was doing better than me, you know what I'm saying? Right.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And that's just some real shit. Like, think about, you ever had a hater who's doing better than you? But the one who's doing better than you can't allow you to know that he's a hater, because he's gonna look like a hater. See, I never had that, though. All the people to hate on me is people who are just probably hiding behind a computer or some old rapening, you know what I'm saying? Like, I said, I feel, so you can just be hating because you're doing good, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:09 Because I don't bother anyone. You definitely don't. Ever. You know what I'm saying? People just feel underneath the voice their opinion. For what reason? I don't know. But it doesn't bother me.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I don't care because life is what it is. Well, that's what's the end is because you definitely did what the fuck you were supposed to do. Now, like you said, you had a plan and you didn't see your plan going no other way. Now, you coming out of Alabama State and it's every nigger dream.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Because I remember when I dropped out to Florida, and I made the song and I said, I'm going to go the music. Fuck that. Had a little bug, we're going to go crazy. But you knew for a fact, when you make this motherfucker take, this is going to be the one.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I did not know that. Yeah, no, I didn't know that. I knew, like, I had this, my plan was to build my name and likeness on social media before releasing music. You know, so like... Yeah, she did before you get into it. What happened in that time frame before you got to that? In that six months when you were recording that, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:05 after dropping out, what happened in your life that got you to that point to make that tape? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. What the fuck you're just going to show me outside of your ear? What the fuck? What fuck is this, boy? This man got a sailboat. This nigga got a, he got a whole sailboat with the dock on it.
Starting point is 00:32:20 You hear me? This motherfucker get it all set. What you're saying? This nigga is gonna keep revealing more jewelry. He's gonna be like, oh yeah, and then this, he'll have a shoulder bracelet. You got a shoulder bracelet? Basically what happened leading up to the table
Starting point is 00:32:38 that you released? Like, after I graduated college or left college? I went back, I came back. I came back to Atlanta, and I was sleeping on my friend's couch. You know what I'm saying? But I was sleeping in one day, and I saw a cockroach. I said, oh, fuck no. And I went back to my mama house.
Starting point is 00:32:57 A road scared you, bro. He was going to holly with a road. He was going to holly with a road. Yeah, that was a different roads. It was on the other one scared, right? On bankhead, yeah, we're going to holly with a road. He makes a different. The most is different over there.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So I didn't, I went back to my mama house. And then I was just So what I started doing was going to these parties Like all these parties and events For all these people who had this following And like it was these And these photographers And just where all the cool people was
Starting point is 00:33:23 I was going I was just Really just hanging out Talking people who vibing And just started building my name In the city like in the scene The underground scene Then I started releasing the music You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Then Well my dad worked for Delta So I had a buddy pass So I was using that to my advantage I would always go to L.A try and hang out with folks and get in the mix. I was really just trying to stay in the mix, you know, and then when I finally had a little bit of buzz.
Starting point is 00:33:48 They got that mixed. You always talk about that, boy, that mix. It's important. And you got, hey, what's some of the clubs you was hitting? No, no clubs. It was more like, like, house parties and, like, because the scene that I grew up in, it was like, I don't know, it was like underground parties and cribs and shit,
Starting point is 00:34:08 or a rooftop party or some shit like that, but it wasn't, like, no clubs, because I was always underage. Yeah. Mm-hmm. In that mix, man. Now, I should pull you got it being that mix, man. Being in the conversation, you do, you have it late, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:24 It's easy, it's real easy to stay in the loop if you're in the mix, you know what I'm saying? But it's also easy to, you know, fucking sink if you're in the mix because you feel in that bitch too much for the wrong reason, then. Get your ass mixed up. And you just get labeled. Get lost in the sauce, man. You don't want to get labeled. Get your ass gone.
Starting point is 00:34:41 in the grave he down there, hey. They don't know who you is, man. You see. When they were with you. What the fuck made you think? I was the motherfucker to be responsible for your ass. So let's jump shit, right? The acting game.
Starting point is 00:34:54 That was cold, because his name a little boat, jump ship. Mm. Oh. You ain't even know the metaphor of Delt, but it doesn't. This is your bag. Am I hearing it? God damn. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Let's jump ship. Here we go. Now, check this out right. Now, right away, y'all with me? Go ahead. Come on, one more. One more, one more. Let me think a...
Starting point is 00:35:16 We're on dead. We're on that. Hold on that. Oh, man. I see what you're saying. Let's go. Hey, man, let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Let's go. Tryling in metaphors today. Hey, man, hold on. God damn, you're a solid killer. You are the solid killer. They're on the Starboard side. Hey, man. Let's get back to business.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Let's ride this way. All right. So, let's go. Now, How How Too, even though it was a lot of, you know, like you said, the negative activity that he was facing. We never brought that to the scene. And I always wanted to say, too, because a lot of people ask me, but how was it working with a little yada for Howie to? I'm going to say this to your face.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Like I tell everybody else, I say, you know what, he came to play. You feel me? Our characters were different. He made sure he did him so well that. All I had to do was just do me. Like, I didn't never, and now the day on set, I never felt like I was in it by myself while I was trying to do anything.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I felt like, boy, I see Yaddy, let go to the workshop. And every time we went on set, man, it was just like, it was magic. You feel what I'm saying? So I had to let you know, by you. You did what I'm saying? You said that. After he did that thing, like, when he was acting,
Starting point is 00:36:36 it was his character. I never seen a little Yadda. I'm like, this thing is, he's killing They had a good time. That was fun. That shit was lit. And we also broke Rutka. Then we did. The MTV Saturday, most high views. You did what I'm fair?
Starting point is 00:36:51 How had to. That's what fun. Yeah, man, we had a couple scenes. We wrote that big down. Me and a little boat, had the fowl. He brought the holes to the zestos and shit. Got hanged, lost the cheap. I was wondering why they had zestos in that bitch.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I was like, they really, They really made that. That's not a good here. Do y'all be paying, like, you're in the science and shit like that? I mean, I know science it makes sense. So have you ever heard of, you ever heard anybody talk about, like, saying like that? We live in a simulation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:25 That's something like Matrix type of shit. Well, not necessarily, but, like, almost as if, like, the world we lived in was being controlled by somebody else. Because, you know, when you think about this universe, and these galaxies, like Earth is so small compared to other planets and other galaxies and then other, the Milky Way and all that, all that other stuff. I'm talking about we like a... So we like a creative character. Like a, well, you know, it's just conversation people have sometimes saying, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:57 wonders if we are simulated, you know, just like how we play Grand The Fado or... Are we a game right now? I wouldn't call it a game, I'll call it a simulation. We really just smart-ass germs anyway. We just evolved into this. It could have been an ant. Or a fucking bacteria. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Who's to say that we weren't out red? It could have been a roach, because that's life too. Bro, what if this shit is not even fucking happening right now? This could all just be a thought that somebody else is having. Right now. Like, we're living in somebody's mind right now. We could be a brain in a jar on a chef in the basement. That's going crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:32 That's bubbling. No, no. What if a drug addict is just making all this shit up? You need to let you. That shit need to be plus because you know some of us need light And then it's the other shit That's what these lamps are for
Starting point is 00:38:44 Your spirit, your soul Everybody lose a little bit of weight When they die You think this is the simulation What? Bring that back Bring that back, bring that up back It's like 0.7 grand Some shit, it's a certain amount
Starting point is 00:38:58 That everybody lose when they die Dog, like the shit that's holding you here It's not just your body, you know what I'm saying? So like your spirit leave your body You lighter than No, okay, if you ever held a dead body, that motherfucker heavy. Yeah, because it's dead weight, but what I'm saying is, it's losing, like... He's like, this motherfucker died and got heavy.
Starting point is 00:39:17 We didn't lead that motherfucker, man. I see why a lot of these nigga get fouled on the road, man? Dead weight. It's like a thousand pounds, right? You don't think it's a simulation? No, I don't, I don't, I don't know. You know, I don't, I don't know. It's hard to tell, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I really start, when I start questioning what's going on in the world, it get a little difficult, you know. I believe in energies. For sure. For sure. What you call it, on a spiritual level, when you know people ain't right. You feel what I'm saying? The older you get, you realize, you're like,
Starting point is 00:39:49 everybody ain't normal. Yeah, right. I'm gonna just say that right now. Everybody ain't fucking normal, but we all live around like, hi, hi, really, he'd be like, I just wanna leave here? You let no fuck around with him, you feel what I'm saying? So it's like a lot of people be fine with shit,
Starting point is 00:40:04 and it's on you to figure out how strong can you be to just, just fight whatever you're fighting and accept other people as they're battling. Yeah. Because everyone you meet, someone is battling something. I'm not saying it's just so deep. They're just battling something. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:40:22 Right, but they go back to what he's saying, though. You're going to keep in mind. Everybody's battling something because we're all reacting to a set of circumstances and a certain set of choices like a set of choices. That we limit ourselves with. Exactly. But everybody's not seeing the same. We're all not in the same place at the same time.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Right. So when you come in contact with people, you don't know how much of this simulation of life that they have been enticed by or have to have counted. Right, right, right. So we all just responding to shit that's happened to us person and individually. That's what that shapes our opinions and thoughts
Starting point is 00:40:59 and shit like that. So it comes down to what you believe. Right. And what you stand on too. What you believe and what you have experienced. Because you base your beliefs off shit that you've experienced. Right. But what keeps you motivated and level-headed is what I can say.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yo, what the fuck are y'all talking about? Oh, we're in the simulation. I don't know if y'all not making no sense. We're in the simulations. You got to stick with us. We're in the simulation. We're in the simulation, right? But the simulation is people responding to these other people that we don't know of seeing.
Starting point is 00:41:34 No, that's not what I meant, though. What you mean? I'm talking about, like, literally like, Like, how you play Grandfather, you control those things? So it's another nigger being me right now? Like, we don't know if it's a nigger or if it's a God or an eternal energy. Or we don't, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying it's possible.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying the possibility. You know what I'm just believe? What is the word is? Monotheistic. That's it when you believe in one God? I don't know. I don't think it's it.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Monotheistic. I'll ask you a different question. If the opportunity came, right, and they said you could freeze yourself. You know, and then come out. 20 years, like 40 years later? I got hired 200 years later. I don't want to free myself. I don't want to play like that.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Straight. Keep me here. You fuck around and get ready. The time is up. And then motherfuckers forget to open your ass up. You don't die way before you don't fold to. Two hundred years just the fucking something came. How much money you got you considering freezing yourself?
Starting point is 00:42:31 No, no. I'm just asking you. You want to see what the new shit is going to be? No. I'll just be curious because some people are, some people are, you know, I call it greedy when it comes, those kinds of, I call it kind of greedy. Like, you should live your life expectancy and then, you know, whatever happens after, it happens after.
Starting point is 00:42:47 But some people are greedy to the point where they want to try, you know, if they live forever or live into the future. See, that's when I feel like that when people would be trying to play with having the father. So it's like, you just got to live for whatever, even if you feel like this is a game, in this game, there's no start over, or you don't know how, what it might happen. So even the expectation, because curiosity can kill the mind. For sure. So if you are being so eager to be curious about something,
Starting point is 00:43:15 you'll realize that you're subconscious, you're feeding your subconscious, and it's telling you whatever you think is dead is there. You see what I'm saying? So your faith and belief disappear and it only just becomes your idea that you're now trying to formulate into reality. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Drive you crazy? Yeah, and you can't let that happen. Shit, that's the part about going crazy, though. Like, what if their motherfuckers is right? What if they're on the other side of the shit that we can't see? Well, you know, the eyes can only see so much. Like, the human eye can only see so much. Like, it's, like, everything, it's so much shit in the world,
Starting point is 00:43:57 like, right now in this room that our eye cannot catch. Like, the eye is not, like, capable of seeing, you know what I'm saying? Like, any, like, energy, you can see. You know what I'm saying? We can't but like it's there, you know? Sound waves and all the shit Like oxygen, you can... Exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Exactly. But it's, but it could be visible. Like, say if there was a different, extraterrestrial life form. Like, who was even the one who told you that there's oxygen that we're breathing? Who is capable to say that that's... He didn't bro.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Usher motherfucking gas on there here. Jack Priller came through with a gangst-ass band. Now we got a bunch of gas on their muck. Hit the gas, hit the gas on their motherfucking dance. Jack Thriller came through with a gangstead ass bag. But some gas on some gas. Now I got some gas. Jack Thriller brought a big bag, showed his ass.
Starting point is 00:44:48 What? I got the gas, got the gas. Jack Thriller came through a bag of the gas on their ass. I'm about to smoke up all this gas. I hope it's real good, have a nigger wanted to get that gas. Just that motherfucking gas. He's the new bitch. You got the gas, baby.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Got the gas. Who is it? Oh, wax. You're a wax. You're a wax. Show the name. Show the man, about to go. Oh.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yo boy. This wax shit? This wax shit. Shut up to wax. Hey. Call my phone, A-S. You know what I'm talking. Oh.
Starting point is 00:45:27 You know what I'm talking. Oh. Let me just a second. Pause. Red, rag, right, you know, like I work on song. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, I got you one.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yeah, I got you. Yeah, what's your name? Yeah, what's your name? Uh-huh. Yeah, what's your name? Taylor, we got some rolling trade. We got a trunk. We got a train.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Let me get it. You suck to him money, boy, I see them all. Niggas, me be flexing me because you're fucking false. I want your jam. I got me from getting the wrongs. Hey, it's big boat. I'm playing my I stick to.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And no sick note. You need me a red coat. I do not tipto him good while I want. Boy, I miss me some walk. Kids will walk in the stock. Checks keys and the dock got a boat by the check skis. Being fucking bitch since the game boy, SP.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Big fucking bitch since my nigga was a little. My name on my name. I'm a baby in the field. What's your name? Your first, man. Your first, man. Your first man. Dorita.
Starting point is 00:46:36 The opposite in the morning? Like, no matter that? Dorita. Real good. I'm changing it. I'm changing it. It's Dorita. Dorita.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I don't want to buy that penny for that school. I'm gonna put your bitch I don't think I'm mad for something. Niggas waiting on their stimulus like when the mail comes. Nika you do not on your shit like when the bills come. What? Tomorrow? Yeah. Four?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Four o'clock? 11. It's like 12 something. Why don't fucking flash a five thousand? That ain't real funny. You can't give me. I can't bring it up, y'all, bro. You can't deal with me.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Huh? I can still do a party in today. He's still drunk. The coach says you didn't from a break without steel. All right, you say, ain't that. Yeah, you used to talk about that mic before they on. Yeah, buddy pulled up on me. Drop me off a little pack, man.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Ugh. You need more. You good. You got something, right? We got a blast. Why you ain't bring it up for my son? We know you wanted something. Oh, we got you now.
Starting point is 00:47:43 This is my man wax. Take some, man. Yeah. Let's have something. What's this? Michael Colillon. That's that Zimbrose. That's a different, a different dude.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Oh, what that's? Oh, thank you. This for this? Come on, bro. Yeah. Come on, bro. We ain't know what you want to do or what you're not doing, so you know what I'm saying? I'm not.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, okay. We want to be respectful back down, so. All ready, bro. Pleasant. Pleasant.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I feel a bitch with me of times. I'll be no port and wine. When that bitch was mighty fine. I'm gonna go on my necklace. Teddy on my arms. No more more than no reckless. Guns into my mattress. I would juggy, sister, like that from my older cousin,
Starting point is 00:48:38 greasy. You remember talking to DC. All right here's like a crush. For all, man, there's the world. But she on my drums, but you're fucking in the streets. You scared me for walls. I was struck in on his sister.
Starting point is 00:48:51 She was strickened me for walls. Don't call them meet her mistress. Y'all ready? Just running. Derrida. Your entire has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace.
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Starting point is 00:51:50 Well, my case resolved now. For real? All I had to do was get the carry license. Because the pandemic stretched out so long that they were just like, niggins just get your carry license and we'll drop it. I see that process, right? Do you get the carry license?
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Starting point is 00:52:18 Uh, I had to go to come. I had to go to Cobb County Courthouse, but you can just go to your county courthouse or whatever. And, you fill out to pay work beforehand. I think it's like $90, something like that. And then, because if I would have got caught at the airport with it, they would have let me go. Even though I was in the airport with it,
Starting point is 00:52:38 I had to conceal carry life. They would just be like, all right, go put your gun somewhere. What's your need? Which one? You want this or something? this wax. Yeah, grab that one. Who shit?
Starting point is 00:53:01 You're right here, booze. What's up, big dog? Sometime. What's been heading? Chill. Leg test. Yeah. Thug.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Cool. All right. What flag of it? Water or something? You got some. I'm good, bro. Good. Welcome to the trap.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. See you've been locked down with my nigga Jake. Why ain't Jake? Yeah. That nigga funny as hell of him. He's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah, yeah. You got to get him on him. You don't know nothing about that. You don't know nothing about that, boy. Ain't nobody said nothing. You ain't heard nothing. Yeah, you made these bits? This shit's hard.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah, yeah, I need these. This one and that last one. Yeah, you know, you got a full-ass-cal-a-skirts all day, every day. For real? That's all I do. That's hard, no. Baby.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Did you ever think it would be this big? I mean, nah, but I hope. I wasn't positive, but I hoped it would be this big. This shit probably even bigger than that. All I can do is hope and pray. Put in the work. That you do. We can make a marathon room.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Keep that shit gone. Right. We gonna jump this shit off. Get this shit in. Who chips? Chip. They open? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Fucking chips. I wouldn't say G.C. Floody's your chips. That nigga would I hate it. You keeping that? No, you can talk that? Yes, sir. I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, yeah, I really had to know the last show. Last show. Felt like it was getting real tense. I would feel like an asshole. That's cool. Then you lost to get away.
Starting point is 00:56:08 I'm like, yay, he saved the day. Because I didn't, I'm getting hot on the last show. I feel like an asshole. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. What's that? Hey, ladies. Hey.
Starting point is 00:56:30 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Slowly, for sure, can let me go know what the head going on. I already got like three, four stories. We got like three four stoves, they're gonna put it in tomorrow, so everyone I'm just afraid to get these guys on the road. Turn it up, man. Talk about some goods masters.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yeah, you got one. I got them vegan shins too. You got the vegan shit, man. I don't know. I don't know, I ain't no regular ones have meat in. Yeah, it's a good shit. They got meat in? This ain't got meat in it.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I'm just saying, they got vegan blood. Now this right here, what's the regular one? This some gas. I don't want this shit going to have you fucked up. This is purple layer. Purple layer? This shit, I just had granite before I left, but this shit, fine.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I ain't had no layered cushions. Oh, nine. Oh, nine. Damn. I can't un-ride a bit. I gotta break it out. Yeah. It ain't a little.
Starting point is 00:57:43 That ain't one of... I missed the vanilla dutch. Man. That this shit just feels. Y'all didn't, you're still on smoke yet? Life ain't hit you hard yet. Ha, ha, ha, ha. He got too many dumb yet.
Starting point is 00:57:57 23. 23. He got it. 24 August. You bullshit. That shit done flew by, nigga. You're the fucking around and got grown. You ain't the young nigga no more.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Man, when we shot. 22. You were 22? Yeah. That was that, yeah. That wasn't even that long ago. That was 10 years ago. That was 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:58:14 It made me feel all the hell, man. My boy out here getting money and he didn't even grow yet. Say what? My boy out here getting money and he ain't even grow yet. Because when you get up, your balls are gonna be sag into the flow. My boy gets eating all this money and he ain't even grown yet. That's facts, though. Two things never stop growing.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Facts. Your balls in your ears. For real. Google it. Your ears still grow? Yeah. That's why I feel like every week, like it's hard to get any goddamn mask over my ear. I'm like, damn, why does it feel like I'm going to?
Starting point is 00:58:59 Like I'm double looping this motherfucker on some shit. Like, why has this move on my ear? And it feels tight. Let my mask keep growing on my face. Real. Yeah, man. For real, you gotta make sure you keep some elasticity in your nutsack.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Fuck around and get to sitting on your balls is over. Oh, man. That's why you see old niggas and they sit down, they'd be like, hey, man. They gotta swing his balls in first. What? You gotta set them balls down. Young niggas, they plop.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I don't think you just sit out like that. You're fucking around and sit on that old sack and you're being passed out for about four, five seconds. You basically gonna bump. Oh, my voice sent a sharp pain to your cerebral cortex. I ain't gonna lie, I scared myself. I thought my nuts was twisted. No.
Starting point is 00:59:55 It didn't, yeah, I was like, hold on, this ain't. Little ball was on the right side. I have not bought pants because of shit like that. No. These y'all ain't got to grow up with old people. I don't know whether they're about old people. They like to be naked at their house. What?
Starting point is 01:00:17 What? My daddy? Hell no. Don't say it. Sit up. I'm talking about I sit. He would sit in his recliner. And you know old people were white drawers.
Starting point is 01:00:27 They let you know. Hell. Don't tell her what's any drugs. You hear me? Yes, sir. He's letting them bitch in hang. I know you ain't lying, because my granddad used to open the door
Starting point is 01:00:35 and just drawls. And you know, the worst part about that, is them draws did never fit my granddad. I think my granddad lived his whole life and never had a pair of drawers that fit him. My granddad won the biggest draw. And they was huge. He holding the bitches up.
Starting point is 01:00:54 What you want? They was huge. What you need? What you need. He had your grandma put a hem in his drum. That is hilarious, man. These draws was big and stretched out. It looked like they're supposed to go over something.
Starting point is 01:01:11 It's like he supposed to have a diaper on, then put them drawers on. Those were overdrails. And they were sagging and long in every corner. That's terrible. That's what motivated me to work so hard. I know. You was going to get you some drawers.
Starting point is 01:01:27 That I'm probably. I'm probably. I'm probably first generation of fitting draws in my face. Because I know he passed that shit down to my daddy. Because he never knew what size draws he truly wore, so I ain't gonna tell somebody else. Fucking stupid. This shit you have to deal with.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Is it that time? That's hilarious. Is it time? Think it's time? That was time, though. Don't your head with some pieces of blood get on your lips. You're trying to roll the blonde all smooth and sexy. But you can't because you got a blonde on your left.
Starting point is 01:02:08 You know, it's so fitting that we all were rolling and smoking blunts right here. That's it, yeah, man. Because, you know, we were all in, how high. You know? We definitely wore, Gary, but I left. Yeah. For real. My boy.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yeah. And we broke numbers. Yeah. And I fired this thing. I fired him. I had to let him go. Why you let him go? Because, man, he had them holes in there, round the money and shit.
Starting point is 01:02:33 You know how them white folks is. They ain't gonna say shit to him as that, though. That shit falls back on me. I'm the manager. Fletting poorly on me. Plus, I had been telling him. He wasn't a good employee anymore. I'm glad you filed until he bossed up on him.
Starting point is 01:02:48 He had. He got the benton on your drop top and that. And not only did he had a drop top, the nigger went in space. Exactly. Came off the screen. He didn't understand why he was still delivering food independent. He had to start on you one time.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I felt real, it was personal. It was real personal. Hey man, welcome back to the 85 South Show. It's a black show. So I can do that. I can say welcome back before I actually say welcome. They get it. Oh, you can say welcome black. Oh!
Starting point is 01:03:21 Welcome black to the 85 South Show. But wait a minute. But wait a minute, what about the minorities? We got a lot of minorities that watch them. How would you say that? How would you say that? Welcome black to the 85-5-5-0. Just come in here and be still and be quiet.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah, you good. But we got one of our real player partners in here with us today, man. Yes, sir. A real eight-town, this is a long, man. He really been doing his thing, though. You did, you know what I'm saying? He really been doing his thing, underrated.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And has become. one of the biggest rappers in the fucking world. Talk your shit, Gabe, about it. And not only they can hold it on weight amongst other stars that's on the major label. Hey man, he took the world by surprise and did it on his own turn. He ain't let up?
Starting point is 01:04:09 I think he called this up a boat before he even had one. Yeah. Come on, man. This nigga got, you might know him as little yachting. But you might know him his little boat. Mm-hmm. Come on.
Starting point is 01:04:20 The nigga cold like Minnesota. You did what I'm saying? You feel me? He did. He did. He did. He did bosted up on. up on us again, the nigga got his own
Starting point is 01:04:27 motherfucking nail polish coming out. You got your own nail polish coming out? Unisex, that means anybody can wet. That's butt crazy. Hey, man, without further ado. Go back the fucking little Yadis in. Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:04:38 Oh! Oh! Oh! What's up, Jeet? Come on, man. I'm just trying to catch up. I don't know when y'all like the recording night. Y'all is like...
Starting point is 01:04:49 We've been recorded. And your team got diamonds in it? Dahl! Damn! Damn! We don't even need no ice cubes, this stuff. With the lady at the meeting green sleep? God damn! God damn!
Starting point is 01:05:04 This drink hot, yeah, give it hot. I already got cubes in my mouth. What's been up, Bo? Oh! God damn, can I get some sunglasses, please! This thing is crazy! I'm just trying to work. Work by our young so I can play with them old.
Starting point is 01:05:21 You're working, y'all. You're doing it. You're doing it. Man, you did, not only that, you're getting in movies and producer. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh. Oh. What's your title?
Starting point is 01:05:34 The agreement. You're gonna jump into the ownership first then. You did. So I know you've been in the industry for a minute now. You hear everybody say, you know, own your shit, own your shit, man. Like, how does that, how does that hit you as, you know, one of the new generation performance and shit? They ain't got your business together. What we're talking about, like, man, shit?
Starting point is 01:05:52 Like, all that shit, all your career. To be in a young boss. Well, it's important, you know, first to know what you're getting into. You know, a lot of young artists, you know, are so eager to, you know, maybe change their life or experience something that they just quick and jump into situations that they don't really know what they get into into and end up fucked up. You know, down the line when stuff started popping off or when they finally got somebody who can open their eyes to whatever it is. They can't do shit because they signed to rich nigger records. We don't own that shit.
Starting point is 01:06:24 That shit you even thought about doing. Your brain, I own that. Nick, I own your name. I did. Thank you. Thank you. Keep thinking. While I get paid.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Every time that nigga likes a blunt, I get $3. How many dollars do you get? How many dollars you get? How many dollars do you get? Three. Why that's what we agreed on? I'm not a greedy man. I'm not agree that.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I just won't what I agree to, baby. I'm not agreed. Now you signed to me for $6,500. You want me now. I want my music. I want my shit. $3, man. We didn't get talking to shit, man.
Starting point is 01:07:14 That's funny as hell. Hey, man. He said, I want my music. Hey, buddy. We got paperwork. I want my music. You want me to read the contract? You want me to read the contract?
Starting point is 01:07:23 I want my shit. Hey, hey, you better not cut your hair. I don't know that hairstyle too, baby. Oh my shit. That is funny him, bro. I want for you. I want my shit. I want my shit.
Starting point is 01:07:40 That is crazy. You have $5 for $6,500. $6,500. Up front. That's crazy. My thing is the bitch, man. He's really signing for stuff like that. Yeah, like, real, man, a lot of these deals
Starting point is 01:07:56 is fucked up. But you know how it is, because it's a lot of people out here is just moving out of desperation, too. You know, that shit don't, that shit be sounding like a lot when you ain't got shit. It's unfortunate, but that's just, that's life. I want to tell you, my first deal, I never signed.
Starting point is 01:08:10 I first my first deal. The $2,500, and I needed the nigga to pay the rest of my lawyer fee. How much with the lawyer fee? Oh, no, I just gave it through it. I think we're probably like 30-sum, but I was so fucked up, I was like, look, I ain't got time to keep finding these niggins,
Starting point is 01:08:26 dip-pay these lawyer feeds, I'm fine. You shouldn't have never mentioned that. That nigger, watch this episode, and be like, speaking of witch. It says in perpetuity. A nigger, a nigger, I breached that contract, got $1,000. Nick, I had, I got out my contract,
Starting point is 01:08:42 and the judge was like, I could have went back and got my money back. Was you under age? I was straight. No, I'm grown. I knew what I signed. But you know, the brief. in the contract that was already being breached,
Starting point is 01:08:53 I just wasn't knowledgeable enough to know that I'd been was out of my contract long time ago. You see, you was blessed, right? Ain't your pop is in the music business? No, my dad's a photographer. Oh, okay, okay. But I mean, he shot a lot of celebrities. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:08 But he ain't known that about music. I mean about the music business. Oh, okay. Yeah. I was just blessed with, you know, my mom was real business savvy. And so she was real heavy. heavy. Once I got on, she quit and then came on as on my management team as my business manager. She's just, I was thankful to have someone who truly care about me, look over everything
Starting point is 01:09:31 all my business. What was that moment for you when it's like, I'm here, I have a ride, now I'm in the music business. What you mean? Like when you hit you're like, oh, shit that really changed, right? Uh, probably like, when I, my first, when I first, uh, 20, When I first signed my contract, I got this penthouse at the Atlantic. Shit. Right in the penhouse, I had the corner suite. And so you got a whole west of Georgia on this side, and then like east of Georgia, I think.
Starting point is 01:10:04 You know what I'm saying? Oh, I don't know. So I could see Stone Mountain, and I could see all the way in Kennesaw. And my neighbor was Julio Jones and Youngdorf. And I was 18 years old. And I think one night I was just taking the shower because my shower had these top, my bathroom at this, like,
Starting point is 01:10:18 something at this, like, still in the floor, like, windows. And I was taking a shower, I had the lights off, and I was just looking out the window, and I just saw the whole city, and it was just like, I was like, damn. You're blessed, young name. I'm here. You're blessed.
Starting point is 01:10:32 That was a moment when I was just like, damn, I really made it. That's that shit you can't put no price tag. That and Christmas, my first Christmas, as a celebrity, because my mother spent her whole life, getting me gifts, me and myself. I never had no money and getting her. So first Christmas, I went crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:53 I spent like, quarter, all on her, you know what I'm saying? Everything was her, and that was like her first time getting gifts and she was, she felt so special. And that was crazy. It was crazy. It was crazy. And it used to see her smile. I spent a quarter pound on my mama.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I spend a QB. You close. I, I, I, I, my mom, a career, a little, yeah. We, yeah. What's all about, man? What's what it's all about, man? No, 100%.
Starting point is 01:11:23 It's being able to change the whole, you know, projection of what your family name going. You feel me? Like, it felt good, though. It felt good. Like you said, you was never able to do that. And it's not that you didn't want to do it. Of course not.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Of course not. I was just in school. You know what I'm saying? She kind of took care of you. Not saying like you knew, like I wanted to do this. Well, yeah, I mean, I'll probably say it. I was probably a little obligated just because I gave a hell. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:11:51 As a young nigga in school and outside, I gave her hell, you know what I worried her. Like, I just was, I just was like, I ain't like school, like, skipping now, but I just, you know, a nigga in school, jokes, laughing, I always getting in trouble type shit, and she always stressed, like, my mom's real, like, professional,
Starting point is 01:12:09 so she wanted to go to college super bad. So towards the end of senior year, I went really forward, and it was stressing her out. And she was going through it, so I feel good to be able to, you know, repay her for, uh, huh? Do you finish? I didn't finish. I dropped out and started my career.
Starting point is 01:12:27 I want to finish. Yeah, I want to, I want to get a psychology degree. Go back? Yeah. Man, you're rich now, just tell them, do a show and tell them to give you an honorary degree. Yeah. I want to, I want to, I want to, I just want to, I do want to learn, like, the ways of psychology, you know. Of course, the base class is, base course is going to suck, you know, but.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Psychology is actually very interesting. Yeah, extremely. Yeah. But your journey in the music, though, because when you hit, you wasn't doing music that long. No. Probably like, yeah. I would say, I mean, I dropped out Alabama State,
Starting point is 01:13:01 and I think September, and I signed my deal by, I put my first mixtape out of March, and then I signed a deal by like April, a million-dollar deal. So I was probably like six months, yeah. Damn. So how did your buds take off? Like, you just went from dropping out,
Starting point is 01:13:16 so you go. I did graduate from high school. Oh yeah, I graduated. Oh, okay. And I went to college and I dropped out of college. Oh, okay, okay. Okay, you're good then. You got, you got a problem.
Starting point is 01:13:25 I'm not going to scratch you now, but you got a diploma. No, not for sure. I got my degree. So you're saying when you dropped out of Alabama State, you just said, fuck it. I said, the thing was, I think I went to school a little bit early. So I was younger than everybody in my class. So I told myself, like, I really want to try my dreams, see if I can achieve my goal. see if I can achieve my goals.
Starting point is 01:13:48 And I know I'm younger than everybody, so how about I take a year off? That way, if it don't work, I come back, I still be the same age as everybody in my class. Because I was, like, literally, probably the youngest person in my class. I was 17 in college.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Oh, yeah, you couldn't even college. I was 17 in my freshman year. So everybody else was 18, somewhere 19. So I was like, if I take a year, if I can come back in it from, I'd still be the same age to everybody. And it didn't take a year. It took six months.
Starting point is 01:14:13 You were fucking a year. Nick, smart a head. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You were either smarter. started school too soon. When I started school just a little early
Starting point is 01:14:20 yeah and my mom always told me she always stressed like, you know if you want to do something have a plan you know and I
Starting point is 01:14:27 towards the end of the summer at the end of senior I started just planning my life because like and I couldn't see it going any way but like
Starting point is 01:14:36 that way this way you know what I'm saying which of course back then the chances were extremely slim you know it's a lot
Starting point is 01:14:43 easier now you know the platforms have opened up so much for the internet, you know, as far as, like, music and getting on and viralness. But back 2016, it wasn't that simple, you know, like, especially the sound and wave that we started that's now a thing, it's colorful hair, there's, all this shit that we do, like, that we did wasn't, like, the thing, you know, I took a lot of beatings for, you know. A lot of people hated me.
Starting point is 01:15:07 That's what I was going to get to next, man. You handle criticism better than a whole lot of rappers, man. Well, you know, it is, I think early on in my career, because it used to affect me hard, and like he used to really like hit me until I started realizing like you know it doesn't change anything like like my business is still what it is
Starting point is 01:15:24 like I'm still getting checks and my whole family's still good you know like it'd be a different situation if like you know people was hating and criticized me and I was fucked up you know but I'm too blessed to even like let negativity hurt me like I start understanding like no you can't
Starting point is 01:15:38 ain't no way that you could just live this king life and not and not come with you know the negatives you got to take the good with the bad you know what I'm saying And my good, my good always outweighs, and, you know, the bad, you know, because I could be, I remember life, you know, just six years ago, so, and it could always be worse.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Right. And you're like an old niggas mad. Yeah. That was, that was, that was. And the crazy, you know what it is? Not too long ago, someone said to me, like, have you ever had a hater that was doing better than you? No, never. Like, ain't anybody ever hate on me who was doing better than me, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:13 Right. And that's just some real shit. Like, think about, you have to do you. Never had a hater who's doing better than you? But the one who doing better than you can't allow you to know that he's a hater because he's going to look like a hater. See, I never had that, though. I don't people that hate him.
Starting point is 01:16:24 I mean, it's people who are just probably hiding behind a computer or some old rapping, you know what I'm saying? Like, I say, I feel so you can just be hating because you're doing good, you know? Because I don't bother anyone. You definitely don't. Ever, you know what I'm saying? People just feel underneath the voice their opinion. For what reason?
Starting point is 01:16:38 I don't know. But it doesn't bother me. I don't care because life is what it is. Well, that's what's the end is because you definitely did what the fuck you were supposed to do. Now, like you said, you had a plan, and you didn't see your plan going no other way. Now, you coming out of Alabama State and it's every nigger dream.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Because I remember when I dropped out of Fort Valley, and I made a song, when I said, I'm going to go the music. Fuck that. Had a little bug, we're going to go crazy. But you were for a fact, when you make this motherfucker tape, this is going to be the one.
Starting point is 01:17:08 I did not know that. Yeah, I know I didn't know that. I knew, like, I had this, my plan was, to build my name and likeness on social media before release the music. You know, so like... Yeah, she did before you get into it.
Starting point is 01:17:23 What happened in that time frame before you got to that? In that six months when you were recording that, you know, after dropping out, what happened in your life that got you to that point to make that tape? Hold on, hold, hold on, hold on, hold on. What the fuck you're gonna show me outside of your ear? What the fuck is this, boy?
Starting point is 01:17:38 This man got a sailboat. This nigga got a, he got a whole sailboat with the dock on it. You hear me? This motherfucker gonna get it all set. This nigga just gonna keep revealing more jewelry. He gonna be like, oh yeah, and then this, he gonna have a shoulder bracelet.
Starting point is 01:17:56 You got a shoulder bracelet? Basically what happened leading up to the table that you were like after I graduated college or left college? I went back, I came back to Atlanta, and I was sleeping on my friend's couch. You know what I'm saying? But I was sleeping in one day, and I saw a cockroach.
Starting point is 01:18:16 I said, oh, fuck no. And I went back to my mama house. A road scared you, bro. He was on Hollywood Road. He was on Hollywood Road. A road scared of your brother. Yeah, that was a different roads. It was a broken road.
Starting point is 01:18:27 On bankhead, yeah, we were on Hollywood Road. He was much different. That's different over there. So I went back to my mama house. And then I was just, so what I started doing was going to these parties. Like, all these parties and events for all these people who had this following. And, like, it was these. and these photographers and just where all the cool people was.
Starting point is 01:18:46 I was going. I was just really just hanging out, talking people, vibing, and just started building my name in the city, like in the scene, the underground scene. Then I started releasing the music, you know what I'm saying? Then my dad worked for Delta, so I had a buddy pass. So I was using that to my advantage. I would always go to L.A.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Try and hang out with folks and get in the mix. I was really just trying to stay in the mix. And then when I finally had a little bit of blood, I started dropping. You always talk about that, but that mix. It's important. You got, hey, what's over the clubs you was hitting? No, no clubs.
Starting point is 01:19:20 It was more like, like, house parties and, like, because the scene that I grew up in, it was like, I don't know, I was, man, it was like underground parties and cribs and shit, or a rooftop party or some shit like that, but it wasn't, like, no clubs because I was always underage. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Oh. And that mix, man. Not that's important, you got to be in that. You're in the conversation, you do. Yeah. Yeah. It's easy, it's real easy to stay in the loop if you're in the mix, you know what I'm saying? But it's also easy to, you know, fucking sink if you in the mix, because if you're in that bitch too much for the wrong reason, then.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yeah. Get your ass mixed up. You get lost in the sauce, man. And you just get labeled. Get lost in the sauce, man. You don't want to get labeled. Get your ass gone in the grave. You don't know who you is now.
Starting point is 01:20:07 You see. When they were with you, what the fuck made you think? I was the motherfucker. to be responsible for your everything. So let's jump shield, right? What's an acting game? Y'all was called, cause his name Little Boat, Jump Shill.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Mm-hmm. Oh, nigger. You ain't even know the metaphor of Della, but it's them. Niggia, this is your bag. Am I hearing it? God damn. Okay, okay, we're gonna jump ship.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Here we go. Now, check this out right. Now, right away, y'all with me? Go ahead. Come on, one more, one more, one more. Let me think, we're on that. We on that. We're on that.
Starting point is 01:20:41 We're on that. We're on that. I see what you're saying. Let's go. Hey man, let's go. So check this out. Trouling in metaphors today. We ain't.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Hey man, hold on. God damn you're a solid killer. You are the solid killer. They're on the starboard side. Hey man, let's get back to business. Let's grab this way. All right, let's go, let's go. So check this out, right?
Starting point is 01:21:03 Now, how hot too, even though it was a lot of, you know, like you said, the negativity that you was facing. We never brought that to the scene. And I always wanted to say, too, because a lot of people ask me, and how was it working with a little yada for hi-ha too? I'm going to say this to your face. Like I tell everybody else, I say,
Starting point is 01:21:25 you know what, he came to play. You feel me? Our characters were different. He made sure he did him so well that all I had to do was just do me. Like, I didn't never, and now day on set, I never felt like I was in it by myself for I was trying to do anything.
Starting point is 01:21:42 I felt like, boy, I see Yadden, let go to work, shower. And every time we went on set, man, it was just like, it was magic. You feel what I'm saying? So I had to let you know, but I appreciate that. You dig, what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:56 And after he did that thing, like, when he was acting, it was his character. I never seen Lil Yada. I'm like, this thing is, he's killing this shit. That had a good time. That was fun. That shit was lit. And we also broke Rucker.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah, we did. The MTV Saturday, most high views. You did what I'm saying. How had to. That's what I'm fine. Motherfucking played. Lo, he was in that motherfucker too. Yeah, man, we had a couple scenes.
Starting point is 01:22:21 You broke that big down. Me and a little boat, had the frown. He brought the hose to the Zestos and shit. Got hanged, lost the cheek. I was wondering why they had Zestos in that bitch. I was like, they really made that shit. Did y'all? Do y'all, you paint, like,
Starting point is 01:22:37 you're in the science and shit like that? I mean, I know science it makes sense. So have you ever heard of, um, you ever heard anybody talk about, like, saying like that? We live in a simulation. Yeah. That's something like Matrix type of shit. Well, not necessarily, but like, like, almost as if, like, the world we lived in was, was being controlled by somebody else.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Because, you know, when you think about this universe and this galaxy, it's, like, Earth is so small compared to other planets and the other galaxies and the other the Milky Way and all that all that other stuff I'm talking about we like a so we like a creative character well you know it's just conversation people have sometimes saying like you know wonders if we are
Starting point is 01:23:22 simulated you know just like how we play Grand The Fado or are we a game right now I want to call it a game I'll call it simulation we really just smart-ass germs anyway we just evolved into this but could have been an ant or fucking bacteria Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Who's to say that we weren't out red? It could have been a roach, that's life too. Bro, what if this shit is not even fucking happening right now? This could all just be a thought that somebody else is having. Right now. Like we're living in somebody's mind right now. We could be a brain in a jar on a chef in the basement. That's going crazy, that's bubbling and what's going on?
Starting point is 01:23:57 No. What if a drug added and just making all this shit up? You need electricity. You need electricity. You know some of us need light. And then it's the other shit that's making us alive. That's what these lamps are for. Your spirit.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Your soul, everybody lose a little bit of weight when they die. You think this is a simulation. What? Bring that back. Bring that back. Bring that back. It's like 0.7 grand. Some shit, it's a certain amount that everybody lose when they die, though.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Like, the shit that's holding you here, it's not just your body. You know what I'm saying? So, like, your spirit leave your body. You lighter than with your spirit in. If you ever held a dead body, that motherfucker heavy. Yeah, because it's dead weight. But what I'm saying is, it's losing. like...
Starting point is 01:24:39 He's like, this motherfucker died. The guy had it. We didn't leave that motherfucker, man. I see why a lot of these niggins get fouled on the road, man. Big weight. Stinking like a thousand pounds, man, man. You don't think it's a simulation? No, I don't, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:52 You know, I don't. No, I don't, I don't know. It's hard to tell, you know. I really start, when I start questioning what's going on in the world, it get a little difficult, you know what I'm saying. I believe in energies. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 01:25:05 What you call it, on a spiritual, when you know people ain't right. You feel what I'm saying? The older you get, you realize you like, everybody ain't normal. Yeah, right. I'm gonna just say that right now. Everybody ain't normal, but we all live around like,
Starting point is 01:25:20 hi, hi, hey, well really, he'd be like, I just wanna leave here? You let no fuck around with him. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like a lot of people be fighting with shit and it's on you to figure out how strong can you be to just fight whatever you fight and accept other people as they're battling.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Yeah. Because everyone you meet, someone is battling something. I'm not saying they're just so deep. They just battling something. You feel me? Right, but they go back to what he's saying, though. You're going to keep in mind. Everybody's battling something because we're all reacting to a set of circumstances
Starting point is 01:25:52 and a certain set of choices like a set of choices. That we limit ourselves with. Exactly. But everybody's not seeing this. We're all not in the same place at the same time. Right. So even when you come in contact with people, you don't know. know how much of this simulation
Starting point is 01:26:10 of life that they have been enticed by or have accounted. Right, right, right. So we all just responding to shit that's happened to us personally and individually. That's what that shapes our opinions and thoughts and shit like that. So it comes down to what you believe.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Right. And what you stand on too. What you believe and what you have experienced. Because amen. Because you base your beliefs off shit that you've experienced. Right. But what keeps you motivated and level-headed is what I can say.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Yo, what the fuck are y'all are talking about? Oh, we're in the simulation. I don't know if y'all not making no sense. We're in the simulation. You got to stick with us. We're in the simulation. We're in.
Starting point is 01:26:47 We're just saying. We're in a simulation, right? But the simulation is people responding to these other people that we don't know of seeing. That's not what I meant, though. What you mean?
Starting point is 01:26:59 I'm talking about like literally like how you play Grand The Father, you control those things. So it's another nigga being me right now. We don't know if it's a nigger or if it's a nigger or if it's a, a god or an eternal energy or we don't you know what I'm saying like I'm not saying it's possible I'm not saying it's true I'm just saying the possibility you know what I just believe I just
Starting point is 01:27:17 believe what is the word is monotheistic that's it when you believe in one god I don't know I think it's it I'm gonna ask a different question if the opportunity came right and they said you could freeze yourself you know and then come out 20 years like 40 years later I got I don't want to free myself. I don't want to play like that. Straight. Keep me here. You fuck around and get ready.
Starting point is 01:27:41 The time is up. And then motherfuckers forget to open your ass up. You don't die way before you don't close to it. 200 years, just the fucking suck. Alright, now, we're 200 in fact. How much money you got, do you consider freezing yourself? No, no, I'm sorry. You want to see what the new shit gonna be?
Starting point is 01:27:58 When you can't even be there? No, I'll just be curious, because some people are, some people are, you know, I call it greedy when they come, those kinds of shit. I call it kind of greedy. Like, you should live your life expectancy and then, you know, whatever happens after, happens after. But some people are agreed to the point where they want to try, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:14 either live forever or live into the future. See, that's when I feel like that when people will be trying to play with Heavenly Father. So it's like, you just got to live for whatever, even if you feel like this is a game, in this game, there's no start over, or you don't know how, what it might happen. So even the expectation, because curiosity can kill the mind. For sure. So if you are being so eager to be curious about something, you'll realize that you're subconscious,
Starting point is 01:28:40 you're feeding your subconscious, and it's telling you whatever you think is dead is there. You see what I'm saying? So your faith and belief disappear, and it only just becomes your idea that you're now trying to formulate into reality. Right. Drive you crazy?
Starting point is 01:28:56 Yeah, and you can't let that happen. That's really good. That's the part about going crazy, though. It's like, what if their motherfuckers is right? What if they're on the other side of the shit that we can't see? Well, you know, the eyes can only see so much. Like, the human eye can only see so much. Like, it's, like, everything, it's so much shit in the world.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Like, right now in this room that our eye cannot catch. Like, the eye is not, like, capable of seeing, you know what I'm saying? Like, any, like, energy, you can see energy. You know what I'm saying? Like, we can't, but, like, it's there, you know? Sound waves. and all the shit. Like oxygen.
Starting point is 01:29:35 You can't see it. Exactly. Exactly. But it could be visible. Like, say if there was a different extraterrestrial life form. Like, who was even the one who told you there's oxygen that we're breathing? Who is capable to say that that is that? That's how high I am.
Starting point is 01:29:52 What? I agree with everything. All of that shit is right. I'm waiting to see where we're going. That's stupid and fuck. I'm listening. But I can't say. shit because it's all right.
Starting point is 01:30:05 On the cutting, like, I can't really agree with that. No, I agree with everything. I'm like, they are all right. No, I'm done. It's all of these things at once. See, if you respect everybody's perception and you just take heed into what they're coming from, you will understand why they got the perception.
Starting point is 01:30:23 They got the perception. We'd be too busy and be like, see, I don't see how you got that. This would be the perfect time to ask you this, then. Tell me about your nail polishing, what made you say? Fuck it. I'm putting my own shit out. Well, because I don't feel like there can be any nail paint
Starting point is 01:30:40 like specifically for men, you know what I'm saying? Or more... Yeah, I agree. Yeah, and... It's a reason for that. Well, see, the thing is, I feel like people should be able to do whatever they want to do. You know, like if somebody
Starting point is 01:30:54 wants to, fuck it, why not? You know what I'm saying? The option. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And I fuck with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, why not? If I got the power to make my own nail paint, why not? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:31:07 Like, how can I lose? Is that, is that just, that's just the only thing that you're standing on is just like, because, fuck it. Just do what you want to do, be creative. It ain't even about being creative, it's just about doing what you want to do. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:31:20 You only have one life, you know what I'm saying? That we know of so far. Right. Why would I confine my life to please others? Right, right. It's crazy. You know, like, regardless of someone else's opinion, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:31:33 And that's nothing. It's like, as we all live one, like, why would you spend your life worrying opinion and someone else's? Yeah, yeah. That's what this whole show is about. But people do it to this day. You know, and we are do it.
Starting point is 01:31:46 And subconsciously, we all do it because we always, whether it's for hours or half a second, we've seen something along. We say something by it, keep scrolling. But it's like, it's crazy that we, as people are like that. You know what I'm saying? People think their opinion is valuable.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Yeah, you know, and it's crazy. If you don't like it, you don't like it. You can you go on. You ain't got to speak on it. I don't even care. That's the point, I don't even care. You know what I'm saying? Like, people are going,
Starting point is 01:32:10 because I realize it's free to talk. Yeah. They don't cost. So people are going to continue to always do it. Regardless. Do whatever the fuck you feel. Feed the family. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Feed the whole family. Always have. Yeah. And I think it comes from people like, you know, whatever your upbringing is, wherever you come from, like, a lot of people are not used to certain shit. And so they get very, like,
Starting point is 01:32:33 like one track and one mind is about something. You know what I'm saying? Like when I grew up, my dad was a photographer. He was a real artsy, creative person. He had me around a bunch of different crowds of people. I went to, then when I went to Emmen, and Atlanta's a real diverse school. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:32:49 It was more diverse. So I was never confined to like, oh, be this way and you can't do that because that's gay. Like, I never had that mindset. Like, I don't even think I, knew what gay was until like, like, I didn't know, like, that that was, like, I don't know, like, I wasn't, I didn't grow up like that, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:33:12 You're like, didn't even, even know, like, my parents weren't just on me, like, you can't, you don't do this or don't be this way or don't do that, like, like, my dad loved Andre 3000, you know what I'm saying, from our casting. He was, he did whatever he wanted to do. He expressed himself however, he dressed however, so. But that's the shit that made hero. man, the people who are free to live their life. If you look at all the people who are admiring,
Starting point is 01:33:38 like, when, you know, that's gonna be remembered forever and the legends, that's exactly what they do. They push boundaries, man. They don't go fucking wrong with you guys, mean, they challenge the status quo. Not for sure. Be free spirity. So look, if you, if your girl,
Starting point is 01:33:54 I just want to know what y'all think about this, if your girl cheated on you, with another girl, you tripping? That's not cheating. I don't know she went to go get a cuchin licked on. I don't need. She went out to eat. She went out for takeout.
Starting point is 01:34:10 I feel like that's clean in the cat. So do you feel like she needs to tell you? She said, I'm going to tell you. No, she don't. She ain't got to tell me that. What's her business? What did she look like? She freaky.
Starting point is 01:34:21 I don't know. What did she ugly? What the fuck did you do with these fucking wool? Bitch! Get in the car! You're running around with these dirty tramps? Get in the car Get in the car
Starting point is 01:34:33 This bitch out of here Kiss and ugly holes And shit Staple's got to be up Man No man You gotta If your girl
Starting point is 01:34:41 A freak like that You gotta accept Whoever you dinner with Man That's where the game Get fucked up And you try to change motherfuckers man
Starting point is 01:34:49 Like You can't ignore The red flags Like motherfuckers show up And they are Who they are They're gonna be They gonna be
Starting point is 01:34:57 They gonna be They gonna be They gotta respect Yeah, man. Don't overlook them signs. You know, you gotta really kind of erase that whole mindset out, like cheating on me. What fucking game are we playing?
Starting point is 01:35:08 Ain't no such thing. Cheating. What you're cheating on me about? Cheating. Cheating. How? What did I win? What did I?
Starting point is 01:35:15 What game are we playing? Believe it or not, you get to the point at some part of this game where he won't even give a fuck no more. Mm-mm. Yeah. Mm-mm. Girl, if a motherfucker, you're cheating on you,
Starting point is 01:35:27 she gets, that's her pussy. She can do that with the fuck. She's a attached to her. That pussy is a, that's an L-L-C. Your name is the only paperwork. You can't talk your shit, gang, violence! Bro. The only reason you should do it.
Starting point is 01:35:41 Now, look, if she's cheating and she's fucking off, but she's still giving you the same amount of pussy you've been getting. Shut your bitch-in. Shut your bitch. Because that ain't happened. That didn't affect none of your economy. Are you saying it's okay to cheat?
Starting point is 01:35:54 I'm saying. No, it's okay to do what. Like I'm saying, okay to do it the fuck you want to do. You got to take the pussy off the pedestal. People put the pussy on the pedestal, and the pussy wasn't made to be on a pedestal. The pussy is made to go wherever it needs to go. It's got to be free reigns.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Because look, you got to go. You got to keep in mind, too. That's 5G network. You got to be free to go wherever it made. Look, pussy is the bonus if you think about it. Take pussy out the equation. You're dealing with the person more than the pussy. Now getting the pussy was just a bonus
Starting point is 01:36:31 Because she really ain't had to get you no pussy She didn't It's a gift Right That's why it's giving That's why it's called the present Right When you feel some type of way
Starting point is 01:36:42 When your girl fought somebody You have an attachment to that pussy Well that's crazy if you're paying all her bills And take care of her That's called obligation Right Ain't nobody told you to do all that You did all that shit
Starting point is 01:36:54 Because you thought that that was gonna give you ownership of that pussy Because you put it on the padders? No. That pussy already had it at LC now. Now, a nigga set his own standards. Registered, account. The nigga who was fucking before you didn't pay all of bills
Starting point is 01:37:06 or he got twice as much pussy as you. A lot. You can't buy pussy because you can't own it. That's called walking real estate. Talk your shit. She's the sole proprietor. Location, location, location. Recession proof.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Yo, your y'all niggas are crazy. During this pandemic, that pussy got some money. I'm telling you, pussy going to sell when cotton won. PPP. Pee, pussy, pussy. That's what we're doing now. I'm here presenting for some future. It's somebody that want to give all of us some pussy right now. Somebody.
Starting point is 01:37:48 That pussy ain't your husband. I mean, if you were successful and you didn't never get no pussy in nothing, no women wanted to fuck you, She's giving it up. You're not going to feel successful. That pussy ain't yours. He said, what if you're paying all her bills? She don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:38:06 She don't give a fuck. That's crazy. That pussy ain't yours. You're not calling them bitches. You're not calling them bitches because that's going to fuck the pussy ratio. You see what I'm with. They're not for everybody. They're not for everybody.
Starting point is 01:38:19 She's giving it up. They're for who they want to be for. That shit sound good in a song. But when you have to come and read them, your life. So whatever a nigger think he did or got away with, you can fuck a thousand bitches straight and never get caught. She can get that pussy away. She giving it up. Right now. She can fuck somebody in your family. Oh, you cheating on me? Really? When your dad is, Mr. Bob, do your thing. I'm sorry, son. Pussy. There ain't no feelings
Starting point is 01:38:49 behind it. That's why when you play these games with these women, just know. She can do some shit back to you that would literally fucking kill you. That's why it's called a game. These women are real spiteful with that pussy. Why I got a little spit on it? You got to eat us out and the good side. Exactly. When you don't fucking with a chick depending on what terms y'all left on,
Starting point is 01:39:15 she's going to fuck somebody that she met in wild fucking with you. You hit the show right now. Your girl will probably fucking somebody right now. The girl you meet the fuck. It's fucking with a partner that ain't your partner no more. They snuck off and fuck. Sneaking. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Paying a bill. Sneaking and freaking. You keeping a lights on so she can have a place to fuck? That's the coldest part of the game, Yaddy. You didn't introduce, when a chick fuck with you, you introduce her to the next dick. She'll give it up. Yeah. Now you can do with this information what you must do, but just know.
Starting point is 01:39:56 that the game is cold. Yeah. Pussy is the one player. Dick is the second controller. Dick is just a volunteer. I'm telling you. Pussy going to win most of the time. She giving it up.
Starting point is 01:40:14 I remember that I was hurt too. Oh, I was hurt. God knew that women was going to win in this game, so he gave us a dick just so we'll have something to play with it. She gave it up. That's all these. He basically gave us a stick and was like, hit something. Hit some.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Hit some, stick something. Hit some, stick some, oh, oh, oh. She giving it up. I don't know what the fuck is happening right now. I'm letting you know, you're 23. I'm 38. I'm 29. You ain't even seen the shit that's coming
Starting point is 01:40:52 dealing with pussy, man. You don't matter what you do. You do, it no matter what you don't do. Don't pay all our bills. You can show up and be nine-tenths of the nigger that she won't. You know who'll end up getting that with? Tom. That one-de-a-old.
Starting point is 01:41:09 And that nigger who's doing that one-tenth that you can't do. Tom. You paying her bills. You'd have changed this bitch's life. And the nigger that she gonna fuck next is just a nigger that listen. God! That work at Chapples. He ain't gotta do nothing.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Can't that nigger work at checkers. That, nigga, 23. She met him at a drive-thru. So you ain't even listened up on no pussy yet. Niggins know how to sign, too. He's like, uh-huh. You know how to sign. You work at each other.
Starting point is 01:41:42 I'm telling you, 20-old. She's giving it up. You can listen up on some pussy. That's the nigger doing everything that she walked up. But he don't listen. Yeah. You know what? She met him to drive-through.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Because they're too busy doing all that other shit. It was late, it was around two. What's you doing, D.C.? She's giving it up to a nigga named Taw. Would he get chel? He could sing. He been like, ooh. Check this out.
Starting point is 01:42:13 I was wondering who Tile was. You played Tile. So every chick you deal with moving forward going to know more about you than you ever know about her. That's crazy. She's about your sneaker deal. You like this, man, that was a long time ago. She's giving it up.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Stay away from them industry chicks. Yeah. They call industry chicks for a reason. That's why we take out of time. I can't pay your beer. They're good to inspire your creativity. I'm too rich. Because you're giving it up.
Starting point is 01:42:54 To a nigger for free. So let me hit for free. And it's a lot of power and not fucking everything. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, don't fuck everything. Woo! You said something then?
Starting point is 01:43:08 Because then you'll start losing value yourself. That's real. Don't fuck something just because you can. Because you've been giving it up. Right. You're in a position in life where you can fuck where you want to. That nigga, ho, ho out here.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Who want to fuck me? Give it up. What were you out here doing? Giving it up. This is like you want to fuck me. I'm like, yes, I do. What's she do? Give it up.
Starting point is 01:43:39 She couldn't believe in myself. You know what to fuck this bitch in two years. Don't believe that. Here I come. I'm giving it up. Don't believe that. Don't never believe that. She's ugly.
Starting point is 01:43:53 She's ugly. That's the cal. So she was like a virgin all the Lord. No, she wasn't. She never got had to fuck. Don't ever believe that. Ain't no such thing as little. If you were alive, you're in the game.
Starting point is 01:44:11 Everybody in this motherfucker, it don't matter what you look like. I'm telling you. Some motherfuckers are ugly on the inside. I don't hit a lot of creatures. What you was doing? I was giving it up. I was worried more about a body cow.
Starting point is 01:44:27 I was like, I got cute, too, brother. I'm ragging it up. They were like, what's on me on? I'm like, Hey, oh, you're crazy. I was giving it up. I'm ragged me about. I see the midst the other day,
Starting point is 01:44:48 I was like, ooh, you listen to me, yeah. I think we can't Hey man Beauty is subjective than a motherfucker though Because it's like On that shit you was on earlier It's like The fucked up part is
Starting point is 01:45:05 We don't even know what we really look like No not not what You're talking about if you look in the fucking mirror You only know what your brains Told you you you saw You don't know how to fuck you look at something about that Yeah, that's same time When you become famous
Starting point is 01:45:19 When you become famous you become famous You start knowing how people You don't know how somebody really feel Once you get to a certain statue in life Because then shit bitch could just be fucking with you for something else You'll never know at that point I'm saying it's turn you into whatever you want to be That's the game though
Starting point is 01:45:35 Yeah, that's for yourself But I'm talking about like if you're searching for a woman And you really like trying to find somebody who down It get hard if you ain't meeting before fame Because it's like how I know you really fuck with me Because you got to look at it from the other side No like what You can't be paying a bill
Starting point is 01:45:50 First of all, I never said I was paying bills. Oh, I thought you said you paid all the bills. I said I was asking if you pay some bills, and they did it. I'm standing here, I'm tight, a bitch-a-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta. See, that's the thing. I can't have the difference with somebody fucking with you? Man, I ain't all right, bro. It's some act out here, bro, trying to get that end gold, trying to get that baby.
Starting point is 01:46:10 That's the end goal. That's the end-goal. I heard the story when you said your light's off. I heard that. Are you trying to imply if you're asking me for money? Hey, man. Hey, Cat, I'm tight. They're like, oh, man, bro, where would you do?
Starting point is 01:46:26 But see, that's the thing, though. That's not exclusive to being famous, don't this? One thing that women crave is security. Now, if you're a dope dealer, he got the same problems as a famous knick, because he's famous in his hood. So everybody he comes in contact with. Yeah, but that's still fame. I mean, whether it's fame on a worldwide level
Starting point is 01:46:44 or local level, famous fame. Exactly. I feel like the vibe is everything. Right. A man, cat, though. All my fucking would have been. I'll have been done. I give a couple of a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Do you care that they fucking with you? He goes to fall in. And what's your family? That'll help you, bitch. Well, it depends what kind of relationship you talk about. It's like some one-night shit. Really? You're talking about some long, long-term shit.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Yeah, you wonder about it, but it also put you in another category, too. Like, once you start doing more shit, it's going to put you on with women. It's the same level. You know what I'm saying. Your trust issue, you probably to fuck up because the more you get more money, you're like,
Starting point is 01:47:16 guys, guys, guys, where's the confidence, bro? your holes are your hoes shit okay if you believe if you believe that a girl is gonna fucking with you that's not what I said
Starting point is 01:47:31 I never said that and that's the selfishness of the whole situation she don't have to just be fucking with you she'd do everything you needed to do that's what I'm saying I don't be tribut that way I'd be like look I'm not even put myself in the world where I'm only fucking with me look
Starting point is 01:47:45 I don't give a fuck I can see you out and you can be with somebody and I ain't feel to be one of them on the other side of the life. Not for sure, not for sure. That's the... Hey, you really just go walk past,
Starting point is 01:47:56 like, I'm not one of them, niggins. This is the trick that we always... We make, we overcomplicate this shit. If you want, if you won't hurt to be exclusive, you've got to be exclusive. That's not. If you got a lot more to give up than some of these, you know,
Starting point is 01:48:09 women that you might want to be in a relationship for. You're going to be married, girl? You got a lot more to risk. I don't know, I'm 23. I'm about to say, but you're 23. Well, if I can tell you right, your twins got in my last year in the 20, so please live it for me.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Be smart. Go crazy. Have fun. Your name like yada. Be on the boat every day. Even when it ain't on the wall. They're just paw. You just on that bitch.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Having a part, like, it's this a time when you just, whoever you think you were in your head, that's how you live in the 20. Yeah, enjoy your moments. But just know, keep the money, though. Keep the money coming. Keep it coming.
Starting point is 01:48:47 But definitely. never take that shit for granted. I always stay in that, in that realm. But you can still see that this shit is... It's a facade. Yeah. But enjoy it too. Don't let that part fuck up the highs of that shit.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Let your highs be as high as they can fucking be. Because you turn it up on you fucking. For real. I feel like you enjoy it, though. I feel like, you know, like... Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a... trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness the way it has echoed and reverberated
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Starting point is 01:51:52 Oh, man. But that still ain't, that still ain't nothing. Come on. You heard the nigga. Oh, wait, this nigga making black history. The nigga got an iced out. Motherfucking hairstyle, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:05 I ain't know. What are you young niggas out here going crazy? What are you going crazy? What you call that shit, no nigger? All right, you gotta live like though. Whether I was famous, rich, famous, I'm still with a live life. Like, make the most of it, because you only got one. That's it.
Starting point is 01:52:19 You got to enjoy it. Well, my boy, you can have multiple lives. Talk to you shit. Don't let these people talk to you like that. I've lived thousands of lives. I've been this nigger and that niggum. I've been a nigger. The nigger.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Here, they are everywhere. I was outside and cash money records too. I was a no limit soldier. You were, you were no limit soldier. I was boys in the hood. I wore soldier rag. Ah! Ha ha ha ha!
Starting point is 01:52:57 I've pipped holes. Slam Cadillac dores. I was in the Wu-Tang plan. I've done it all. I'm the lost member of the Outcast. I'm in the dungeon family. I have signed to rappel out records. He's rap-a-lodd records.
Starting point is 01:53:16 I ain't know Jay Prince. You know Jay Prince. Man, you have thousands of lives. That's what I'm saying. It's moments like that, man. For sure. You got to live your life, guys. You definitely live in your life, man.
Starting point is 01:53:27 You saw that nigga Rick James. Rick James was the perfect example of what a black man supposed to do with this shit. Right. Minus all the shit that he went to jail for. You gotta overlook that part. Right. Okay, so what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:53:40 You look at a nigger who enjoyed that shit, that fan of the shit. James, yeah, that nigga, no niggins loved that shit, like, made that shit look that good. No, for sure. So what you got new coming out, man? I don't know you got some shit in the blender. Um, that shit.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Well, I just dropped mixed take. We could go. Michigan Boy Boat. What did you go? What did you go? Michigan Boy Boat. Yeah, Michigan Boy Boat, uh, my nail, paint, pin the job.
Starting point is 01:54:07 What's the line called? Crete. Yeah, I'm about to do a frozen pizza and all grocery stores in the year. Frozen Pizza. Yeah. Oh, crazy. Hold on, bro.
Starting point is 01:54:17 Put the pizza cover. Well, we're still trying, that's the last thing working on the name and the logo, but... I can buy something for the hood, like... No, for sure. We can pull it out, like, passing things up. What I'm saying? I'm going to invest in you to invest in the hood. You feel how you keep that shit flowing in the name.
Starting point is 01:54:33 I'm gonna pitch you right now. You hear that shit. You hear that shit, turn that shit up, bro. You call them bitches, little boats. But you make the pizza triangle that way, and it's... that way and it's like a little boat and sell them sheds. That'd be the slogan.
Starting point is 01:54:50 I'm gonna sell these bitch. You know they're gonna go cause I'm gonna sell the eBay. Oh, and they're gonna sell. That's a low go. Oh, it's selling. Come on, bro. You gotta be faggat. All the white people are like, all right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 01:55:09 You're going to where I'm gonna yonahua? They won't even call them y'alli. They won't even call them y'all. I got jet skis. He's like, look, y'all. I need to buy a boat. There you got to buy a boat. A little one.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Yeah. No, I don't have a boat. I'm with, well, the boat show. Let me buy your book. Let me buy you a book. Let me be the business man with your book. Can I see in your house? You want a broker it?
Starting point is 01:55:27 Yeah, he won't go spend $300,000. No, that's too big. It's too big. That's a lot. Oh, all right. I'm trying to see. No, hey, bro. $300,000?
Starting point is 01:55:36 Yeah, you're going crazy. The way your ears going on. No way. That's $400,000. I see you. I'm like, that man got $400,000 in here right now. You know the better question would have been there? That's the boat.
Starting point is 01:55:45 How many people have tried to sell you a boat? A lot of people try to take me on their boat. You've been on a stripping boat? Oh, what? Shrip and boat. It got some good shrimp on that boat. Been on a real big boat. That's the dude.
Starting point is 01:56:05 Yeah, people are always trying to take me on boats. No. Are you scared one? I ain't scared. Nah, I ain't a fan of it. I ain't scared. Have you thrown a dope-ass party on a boat? No, I'm not a big fan of a boat boat.
Starting point is 01:56:18 You got to throw a party. 10 o'clock everybody's tithers got to come out. It's on the boat. That's lit. Why would they want to be on a boat with their tithers not out? That's the whole point of having this boat party. That's what I'm talking about. If they want to.
Starting point is 01:56:35 My boy loose on that shit, man. No, that's what, that's, we did a special screening process. How many ladies would like to be on the boat with their titty's out about 10.30 to 12, 1 o'clock? We're going out in the water. Ain't nobody gonna see your tities but the people who are on the boat. And then at six o'clock, we'll pull them downstairs
Starting point is 01:56:52 and we're like, so how y'all feel about the people on the boat? So 10 o'clock titties is happening. Okay, okay, come on. Bartender got the shots upstairs. Look what they say, fellas, we're at this. They're not disappointed in any of us tonight. 10 o'clock today is happening.
Starting point is 01:57:19 I'm not saying it's going to happen all the time. Hey, man, I'm liking this. I'm liking this little, this, this. Yeah, but we got the, we got the white dude. We can pay them for the weekend. Right. He's going to take us kind of over in this little spot where it's kind of just us. We're going to chill.
Starting point is 01:57:34 and smoke some blood, talking about aliens and shit. Right. Then about 10 o'clock, we're gonna grab some stage. Some teeth are coming out. Smoke some mold. Right. Titties is out. But we got a DJ.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Right. So it's counting like a vibe. It's a lady DJ and her tit is out. Her tent is out. Now, ten is out. Bro, we're not trying to sway you in any direction. But if you need us to show you how to do this shit. They call your boys, man.
Starting point is 01:58:04 And this is grown folks in respect this shit. They're nobody judging nothing. It's gonna be a few that was bought, but natural tinnies is more than welcome. We want some baby mama tinn is in there. Yeah. Yeah. They still don't let the captain say shit.
Starting point is 01:58:18 How about you say to say shit? They got no bounce to say shit. They ain't saying so they bounce. He's fucking up your vibe, trying to, you know what I'm saying? You cut that shit, man. He don't speak at all. Yeah, hey, captain, here, shut the fuck up, man. When the tini's out, you keep your eye
Starting point is 01:58:32 on the goddamn water, man. You're gonna run us into a barge, okay? You don't look. It ain't on the friction. It's intelligent conversations and good five-star chef food. For sure. He's gonna be driving.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Yeah, you drive with your tennis in, right? You gave somebody deep occupied. For sure. Both party be lit. You got everything. That's just some shit you do because you're able to. Right. Live life.
Starting point is 01:58:59 This is how right now. Think of how many black men gonna live on this earth. live on this earth that ain't gonna get to do that, that ain't gonna have an option to. That'd be the little shit of them. Not options. Hennison. I don't know what's in that fucking Hennyson,
Starting point is 01:59:13 but somebody puts something in that Hennyson. That hen dog, whoo? And that, what's the shit in that little small bars that come out right here? What is that done? Who do you? Man, you put some niggas on the boat with some hinnockees, the niggas start asking shit,
Starting point is 01:59:26 like, hey, you got some breath of food, or nothing? I found it out. On the boat, bitch, eh. On the boat? You got some peanut butter, jelly. Shit. They said, they can't feed up under jelly.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Everything. They said, you'll cut some brink. They ain't got that bunch of the trunk. Come on, red. I ain't never had Hennessy. You never had Hennessy. What did you drink? I'm drunk.
Starting point is 01:59:49 What you drink? You don't drink nothing? I never been drunk. Don't, don't get drunk. Yeah. Nah, man, stay yourself. Yeah. If that ain't your bag, don't get on star.
Starting point is 01:59:58 That ain't, that ain't. You get on for us nothing on nobody. Fuck all that peer pressure shit. People don't do shit for a reason. Don't start. That's the best way to stay out of the fucking way. That's the worst night ever, fuck with somebody that ain't been drunk.
Starting point is 02:00:10 I ain't been drinking. And then they drink when they're with you. What the fuck made you think? I was the motherfucker to be responsible for your ass, man. You got people that still got shit on their bucket list. They be involved in you in this shit. Come on, we'll kick y'all ass. Who is?
Starting point is 02:00:25 What the fuck are you doing, man? I get drunk once a year. You get drunk once a year? I can't see you join. You get angry. About once a year. Fuck all you white people. Now what I'm doing.
Starting point is 02:00:37 Fuck all along. From the Mississippi Valley to the motherfuckett. Fuck all you. I'm gonna get it all my cars and run to you motherfucking move. And I got a lot of it. I got a lot of motherfucking car. Don't touch me. A motherfucker fucking Carlos Miller, bitch.
Starting point is 02:00:57 Man, it ain't even like that shit. I'm like a lot. No. She'd be moving way too fast. You're gonna do too much. Fuck, me, white folks. Be blurred. You're like, no crazy, man.
Starting point is 02:01:09 What crazy, man? I can't get drunk around white people. It's crazy. We go crazy. Nah, it isn't. I see that nigga at the airport. Because we got stuck. Oh, my black can't crazy.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Hey, y'all's fault. Try to blame it on. There ain't number four black folks on the plate. I know who it is. Y'all try to keep her trapped here. Man, no motherfuckers. They stopped the plane and was like, figure it out. I ain't never seen no shit that gudder in my life.
Starting point is 02:01:34 My boy went crazy. They stopped the plane. He fucked white people, but boy, he's from Mississippi, so y'all got to understand. It's a certain, when he feels like that racism shit in the building. Oh, shit. That boy turned to a whole other nits. Not me. I ain't the one.
Starting point is 02:01:50 Let me ask you something, just see. Talk to him. How you deal with, I just went here from your perspective, how you deal with people asking for stuff? I mean, real one, because they know them tight. I'm like one of the people where they know, they'd be like, I'm going to go have something. Nah.
Starting point is 02:02:10 Because they already know. I'm going to be the nigger that's going to tell you for a fact. Like, if you're my opponent and you know what's so, you know I love you, like, you can call me and I'll still go thomp it out with you and whatever. I can call me for whatever because I know you're a responsible person that you're not blowing the money. You're needing the money or you need to double up or triple up
Starting point is 02:02:30 Do something with, because I don't have burn money to just free willy-nilly. Cause I used to be fucked up, nothing, zero dollars. And I remember I had to find a way. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, all I do is put my niggas position when they can handle their business for the rest of their life, where I'm like,
Starting point is 02:02:48 I can show you how to get some money. That's a bad thing. When I was selling dope, I really didn't give a fuck about a nigga front me, show me how to cook because I know that was the way of the game. If I want to buy a three, five, and cook it up and make an eight. Hey, hey, what you?
Starting point is 02:03:00 I mean, I'm just teaching the nigger what's heading it. So instead of me buying the whole Sam Graham, fuck it, teach me how to cook. I'm gonna know, I'm gonna stand over the pot and I'm gonna show me how to cook. But a nigga want you to cook for them, make the plate for them. Here you go. Here, sit down, eat, and then not really coming up with another obligation or another circumstance for y'all to double up some money. You just ride in the way.
Starting point is 02:03:23 We are grown now. No more friends. We're grown. We were gonna fade out anyway. We either gonna turn to business problems. business problems, because I don't need nobody to hang with, we can smoke a blunt with. All my problems, we're handling business.
Starting point is 02:03:35 I want to see you, you got kids. So I get motivated with my niggas do shit. So it's like, do some, because it motivates me. So let's work. You feel it me, and so it don't matter with you to put niggins. But if you're a real nigger, I don't broke bread with my niggis. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:50 But don't have a bag. Don't ever loan the nigger more money than they've ever had. Yeah, it gets to the point. You ever fell out with family of them? Yeah. I ain't no fault with family, mother. I'm really big on shelter. So you got a house.
Starting point is 02:04:04 Everything else figured out. Sometimes it'd be like, if that's all that costs for me to never have to fuck with you again in life, then keep it. Like if somebody owe you and they know you, they owe you, and they're trying to determine if you need your money back or not, just let them have that. It's like, so you mean to tell me that you needed me,
Starting point is 02:04:25 and I gave you that. And now you're trying to play me like that word. play me like that, wouldn't that? Okay, well, you take that, but just know. And that's it. I never fucking you again in life. I'm not about to argue with you. I'm not about to call you a bunch of times.
Starting point is 02:04:37 Just know that whatever we fell out about, you're not because I did you wrong, because you did me wrong. Good riddance, and just know you will need me before I need you again. Rule number one, don't lend it in the back if you want it. No, no, exactly. Don't lend it.
Starting point is 02:04:55 That's crazy though. Don't lend it if you want it back. You ain't got it to yield. Say it's like, you're somebody like, this is your dog, right? You're doing your last few dollars. Right, right, right. You still split that with them.
Starting point is 02:05:03 Right. Just because that's your brother. So you should expect them not to give back. You just, well, what if that's the word? That's the word, right. And you really just splitting your lives with your money. Now, that's, that's the bad. When you expect the shit, that's what shit's bargaining.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Well, what if they tell you, they're gonna give it back to him. That's how they got it. But that's your lad. We're in position with, we'll look at shit like our lad. Cause we hustlers. I'm a hustler if a nigga know me. Legion, the hustler at heart. That was, boy, I said you, you.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Word. You did. So it was like, I was one of the niggil that always needed a boost. I remember when I was fucked up, I was like, if I could just get a jar up and get some money, I'm gonna be straight. Because I'm fucked up. I need a boost.
Starting point is 02:05:45 I don't want to do nothing stupid for the boost. So the niggins don't understand you're doing shit for the boost. So when you get the boost, you got to take off. So when I got the boost, I was like, oh shit, and it's discipline. Yeah. Hustling is discipline, like, you literally gotta do that shit repetitive every day, like, it was times I hated that I sold weed.
Starting point is 02:06:03 I was like, man, stop calling my phone. It's like, some people got a dope-ass hustle, but they caught up in the lifestyle of being a hustler. One thing about hustling, it's not about what you have to do. It's a lot of shit you have to stop doing, or your hustle is pointless. Right, right. Like, if you hustling just because you'd like
Starting point is 02:06:24 to be hustling, then you ain't stacking no bread stop from hustling, that defeat the purpose. You put nothing up. Right. And you're living a lifestyle. You remember when blocks came out, the niggas had them $300, $400,000, everything. Like, when you see that nigga with some blocks,
Starting point is 02:06:37 that kind of certified, like, oh, shout to get some money, or he'd keep a couple hundred dollars in their pocket. I couldn't get, I always wanted blocks. So when I started seeing some money, where I'm capable of keeping three, four hundred dollars in my pocket, I wouldn't go give me some blocks. Yeah. I spent $2.50, dude, the biggest ever I ever spent on anything.
Starting point is 02:06:54 I was so tight. You know me, Legum, used to wear a fake clothes. You hear me? Why would you go spend a hundred dollar for Apple One and they sell them for two for a hormone? In Metropolitan, you tripping, you feel me? But when I broke out of that mindset and started getting some money,
Starting point is 02:07:09 and I was like, I went about the block. I put them in my ear and I was like, damn. I'm in the mirror, right? You know, I had to rock both of them. I was like, bro, nigga, I didn't get me then. I worked for it. So once I saw how I looked when I worked for it, shit. Oh, you couldn't tell me nothing.
Starting point is 02:07:28 It was on it, phew. Niggas, I was on so ton of vision on stacking, push it up. I only kept ones in my pocket. Oh, I still till today, I'm motivated by one. I hold about three, four hundred dollars with for ones and like, I'm gonna turn these bitches in a hummus. Even though I can, but I want to turn these.
Starting point is 02:07:44 These ones are in my hand. You see what I'm saying? Gotta have a vision. Gotta have a vision. If your hustle become your job, you're doing it wrong. Say so sometimes, too. They know sometimes, too. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:07:56 Yeah. You're going to get old. You're 23 right now, so you get grown and start having responsibility. I feel old. I know, but when you like start having kids and shit, it ain't even about you no more. Like, I used to know how to stay out the way and hustle for myself, but now I got to hustle for me, my mom, my sister, my child, my child,
Starting point is 02:08:12 shit, her kids, all of them. I got to make sure we'll never go back to where we came from. So it's like the responsibility that I got, I got to make sure I got to get the back. And people got to understand. You got a family too. Yeah. I don't think, you know, people don't think like that sometimes. And you're famous.
Starting point is 02:08:27 I, ain't, no. But you, you're a black man too. Rule number one in black man financial handbook. I ain't got no goddamn money. I don't give a fuck what you sold with, what you thought I hate. That's the first thing in black man financial literacy. I could have 20 trillion.
Starting point is 02:08:47 If the nigga asks me, I don't have it. How my money got? I don't have it. I don't have it. I don't have it. I have nothing. What? I don't have a buck on you.
Starting point is 02:09:00 You hit him with the money making me? I have nothing. You hit him with the money, baby? What? I'm broke, baby. You think them white folks gonna let a nigger have 20 trillion? Think about it. They saying that to divide us.
Starting point is 02:09:16 Talk your shit. I have nothing. I'm gonna be the bone. That's nothing. Bro, if I had money, I'm begging, I, bro, let me, hey, brother, uh. Y'all know I got this candle thing, right. I got this candle thing.
Starting point is 02:09:32 I'm not, I'm not giving away nothing. Gotta say no, bro. You'll see. You gotta say no. Huh? Oh. Yeah, man, ain't no goddamn. Yeah, fun though, brother.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Giving away no fucking money? Uh-uh. We got a damn, too, like. I ain't giving away my money because I worked for it. Even if you want to just give somebody like $50,000, you're gonna change their life. They don't even understand. Their life is changed.
Starting point is 02:10:06 You blow that now. Let me tell you something. Okay, check this out. I'm really from the screen, bro. You can't blow that type of money. You crazy. If you give a motherfucker that much money and they ain't never had it, they're about to try to buy everything they ever wanted.
Starting point is 02:10:20 Oh no, that's the fact. They don't know how to do. What the amount of money that you get, you're gonna have to get it again, because you're trying to run through it. They don't die. That's another thing, because as, you know, I don't want to say as black people,
Starting point is 02:10:31 but, like, just if you come from, like, a struggle or come from nothing, there ain't nobody teaching you what to do with no money because the people who grew up around they never had no money. You know what I'm gonna teach us what to do with money, but they ain't have no money. Hey, we, this first generation money, man.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Exactly. So, you know, that's the part about it. It's protecting me. What happened, nigga? What happened, nigga? Oh, I'm like, the fuck, I just got up together. What's goddamn let us know? Oh, ain't nothing, like, birdie.
Starting point is 02:11:00 Like, the dick's, like, six niggas got together who knew what was going on. I was like, what? The other five didn't want to say shit, can't just like, nothing. Hey, y'all. What's going on? The bill's on fire, but nothing.
Starting point is 02:11:15 Keep rolling. We're liking this shit, financial literacy. Well, let's go, let's go. Yes, too. But you know how that shit is, man. Whenever you, you come from the hood or the struggle, you know, shit. But see, I'm really going to teach you. Oh, me too.
Starting point is 02:11:31 I'm going to teach you before I just give it to you. Right. I feel like, a niggins don't understand knowledge you can take that with you. Like. It's work more. It's way worth more. That's just like if a nigger would have taught me how to cook,
Starting point is 02:11:43 me knowing how to cook is a survivor tactic that I can always cook up and though. How do I got to come up out? Why you got to listen to Jay-Z? You feel what I'm saying? He already said it. Give them money to eat. Next week, he's broke. That's real.
Starting point is 02:11:58 But if I teach you, they're just like I'd be letting motherfucking know. Well, whatever profession I got going on, I just say, look, you guys always have a job with that. You feel me, you don't tell jokes, so you got to figure out. But I'm here with you, now, and guess what I'm doing? I'm invested. Put your money in the stocks.
Starting point is 02:12:13 Put your shit in the other shit. I'm showing you how to get a bad, how I'm getting the bad while I'm showing you was really going on, so you can always stay in the loop. You feel me? It ain't never gonna be a nigga that's, you're supposed to hang around to get money, and he's not putting you up on game on high.
Starting point is 02:12:27 What's how he gets some money? Not saying he's supposed to tell you everything, but he's supposed to let you know what going on. And that's the blessing though, man. If a motherfucker turn you on to any money that you ain't had, that's your responsibility, how long you can stay right there and get it. A lot of motherfuckers fuck their own shit up
Starting point is 02:12:44 trying to hound forward that. Like, man, you got a grave lick, you're just too lazy to hustling, or to work it, because sometimes it ain't. You can put the motherfucker in a position. Hey, all you have to do is this. That's it.
Starting point is 02:12:56 You said this what you wanted to do. Why? Okay, I bet. So not only do you fuck your shit up. Now you fuck up the person who turns you on to this credibility. Because you aren't reliable. We got to also learn how to network. The mouth is a reliable source.
Starting point is 02:13:12 The most powerful man is the person with the most resources. So if you can't make a phone call, you're useless. You feel me? If you can't put a phone call, you're useless. play together, you're useless. Not saying you're nothing, but I'm saying, what value do you hold even to your own profession? Because you are a brand for whatever you doing.
Starting point is 02:13:33 And if you can't even make a phone call to expand your brain, you're doing something wrong. That's real. You feel me? That's why if I'm going to a part of where you at, not long I'm coming, I'm fucking with you, I'm supporting you. It's important people in this motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:13:49 Yeah. Why, it's like how you said, You went to the autumn party, you network, you navigated. You went where they was popping. You went where what was going on. And you made yourself useful in saying, what's happening, what's your name, what you got to offer. My lane, so and so, what up.
Starting point is 02:14:06 Maybe one day we can network. Not on no bugging, niggas, I always be trying to, nah, because you knew you're serious about your business. Right. You got, that's the real humbling part about it. There's a lot of motherfuckers like, they just post up and be like, they don't know who I am.
Starting point is 02:14:20 I'm important, too. You made yourself know? That's one of them, that's one of those things about business that a lot of people ain't never going to succeed at. Everybody ain't supposed to be in position. Because, you know, that's the one thing, the critical skill is, you know, knowing how to communicate with different walks of people.
Starting point is 02:14:40 We're comedians. We don't know who's going to show up to our show. We can walk out there and it'll be sold out. Don't nobody look like you in that old. Right. But see, I don't, but this thing I have on that step up where I say, I don't even want to say that everybody ain't supposed to. Everybody has the ability to tap into their leadership quality.
Starting point is 02:15:02 What I want to say. Everybody's on him. But, but, but, it's on you to find out what you're a great at. It's something, like, we can be comedians and we can do out that. But I got a partner that's crazy to take world. That's something you blessed that. There's something that I know that you hold value with. that how you look at me over here and doing the stand-up,
Starting point is 02:15:25 I look at you in the tech world as this, gigantic superstar. Right. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like this is something you're great at. And I just like being around motherfuckers that don't mind giving off information because they love it.
Starting point is 02:15:38 Because that's how we was in the community or anywhere. However, we built our promise land. It was our resources that we came together with. That's how the community is built. Oh yeah, we got doctors. Oh yeah, we got accounts. Oh, yeah, we got lawyers. Oh, yeah, we got this.
Starting point is 02:15:53 Oh, yeah, we got that. Now, I ain't looking at it like, how you do that? Man, we got resources, baby. Who are you talking to? Strengthen's in the network. That's real. You were talking about the financial literacy, man. What's some of the shit that you didn't learn already?
Starting point is 02:16:12 As far as what? Yeah, managing and keeping it. I mean, you know, you got to, like you said, you know, you get somebody 50,000. next week. I have to go through that. You know, I came in the game at 18, 17. I came in a 17, got my first million-dollar dealer at 18, you know what I'm saying, had never had any money before then. So, of course, I, you know, I don't blew some money, you know what I'm saying? You know, but thankfully I caught on quick and I got, I got bored with, like, materialistic
Starting point is 02:16:40 things. And it helped me, like, learn to devalue Lise materialistic things. You know, at first I used to value, like, all 15 chains and watch and, you know, and, you know, and, I used to have eight cars. You know, I used to, like, I had eight, eight, you know, I had eight cars, you know. Are you selling any? You know? If you only want one, I get the other seven. I was 19, you know, so I was 19 years old.
Starting point is 02:17:08 So, you know, it taught me to just devalue everything. I stopped caring about all that shit that at one point of my life I thought I needed to have. I felt like I had to have, you know. And so now I'm still so young. and I still got a long career ahead of myself. I now know how to move. You know, it's not as important to me to go blow six figures on a bracelet.
Starting point is 02:17:30 You know, something like that. How much more do you think you blew before you realize that shit? Over 20 amps. Yeah, damn! Before you was like, I didn't need this. Like, you was just looking at shit
Starting point is 02:17:44 like, I didn't fucking need this. I didn't. No cap. 20 to think. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should have, like, resells for shit to kick me back? You should have came up here earlier, bro.
Starting point is 02:17:54 Nah, hearing it. You would have came up here earlier, and you would have to still hand the 15. You know what it is? For me, it's not about it. It's not about working enough for me. It's literally about going through experiences. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:18:09 Like losing, I don't lost millions of dollars worth of jury to the point where I'm like, man, I don't care about this no more. Or I just wearing it enough to like, damn, these chains are heavy as fuck while I keep wearing them. keep wearing them. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know saying?
Starting point is 02:18:23 It's uncomfortable. Kept buying cars. Had damn, this goal is chasing me. Letting my homies drop my cars. Why the fuck would you do that? Because I just tried to, when I got into this life, I wanted all my friends to like experience it with me some kind of way. Yeah, they can not respect it with you.
Starting point is 02:18:40 Yeah. Well, see, I had too many. I couldn't job with my cars at once. Really? But then they started wrecking them. So then I'm like, all right, well, then it's just a car. It's just a car. Wait a fuck.
Starting point is 02:18:49 I got something to tell you. Wait, wait. I rent the Lambo. No, listen. But I got a nigga dropped about your boat next week. That's the shit I was saying. I just negotiated the boat. Everybody ain't supposed to be in position.
Starting point is 02:19:01 You motherfuckers ain't got enough driving experience to be driving no shit. This is a Honda-Corn friend. Right. He got feet. This ain't no Honda-Corn. No. This friend ain't never growing no shit like that before he used to.
Starting point is 02:19:16 Right. I ain't saying nothing wrong with Shadding his friends. It took a friend. They don't be honest. They don't be grateful. No, that's a fact. I feel like people never respect something that they didn't have to work for.
Starting point is 02:19:26 Yep. That's what I'm trying to tell. He's in the Lambo, you're trying to tell him. He's like, man, I've been in the Lambo before. Yeah. Just like, yeah. My cousin rented one of these in my house. You took a pinch of by that bitch.
Starting point is 02:19:40 Yeah, my cousin had one of these in Miami. He don't know. He tried to go out of these in Miami. He's trying to go out of these bumfucking work. The work, I don't know which button, what I mean, this is. Hold up, that ain't gonna have. Don't know what I did, too. It's just like when people were scam.
Starting point is 02:20:00 Bro, how you cut this bitch off? It got a pill, L, but I think I don't win lower, I don't know again. I don't think I'm gonna tell that. This shit don't work, man. I think you thought I said, man, it said two bucks. It's shit too much. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:20:18 Get out of the old cap, bro. Hey, man, I'm trying to start that motherfucker back. I had it on. Man, we don't eat. This is bullshit. Nick, I always find out they on eat. Man, that's what I'd be trying. But see, I just made sure that my niggins are out here
Starting point is 02:20:34 just getting some money. You feel, I always didn't appreciate it. I'd be like, look, listen, it don't matter what you're doing, bro. I don't care what's you, whatever you think you're facing. We've grown. We're almost 30. So you still dealing with that shit now. It's right.
Starting point is 02:20:52 You need to just figure that shit out. So what we got to do is go hard every day, learn how to just stack the paper, stay out the way. Even if you're dealing with this shit, go somewhere else, bustle left. Don't go right, bustle left. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:21:05 And just stay consistent every day because at the end of the day. I got to go tell these jokes. We got to continue doing this podcast. Everything is a continuing process. And if we were just choosing to be like, I'm sick of this shit, I stopped.
Starting point is 02:21:18 We're stopping the grind. Ain't no way you can stop the ground. We don't work too hard to build anything from the ground up and then you really came from slums and if you really came from nothing, then you all automatically know that once you get some shit in motion,
Starting point is 02:21:33 once the wind start going on that motherfucking trunk. Everybody believed it. What? Everybody your cousin. Everybody loved you the most. Everybody knew you was going to make it. They didn't know it then.
Starting point is 02:21:46 My sister called me a junkie. When I was four of those, she's like, every time I come up here, you're just being a junkie. I said, damn. Juggins I ain't got no job. That's crazy. But I said, what are you doing? I got money in my pocket.
Starting point is 02:21:59 No. I don't remember. What the fuck you? I said, I don't know where the fuck it went. That what them damn nail came from, you just was like paint these bitchy. Oh, no. What's wrong with you out, boy?
Starting point is 02:22:16 I don't you out, boy. Baitney, motherfucker. Now, I had a rough. I had a rope back then. What else can I go through? Pait me, bitch. Man, if I ran through $20 million, I would have some of the coldest stories.
Starting point is 02:22:28 Look, it's me and 20 naked bitches on a boat. Tita clon. Nigger. I had a motherfucking ice sculpture. You feel me? Big-haired shit. Underground. Pulled up on the island.
Starting point is 02:22:45 Monkeys. monkeys, parrots and shit. They've cooked the pig underground. Banana leaves. Pulled pork straight up out the ground in the banana leaves. Then the natives pull up. Everybody, they get their feet rubbed with this rock.
Starting point is 02:23:02 It's good luck. Then we go on the inside. They play live music to 4 o'clock in the morning. Then they start drinking when the sun come up. Come up. Sound like you hanged with Craigman. That's the type of shit. Give me your feet.
Starting point is 02:23:18 I got a rock. Let me rub it. I would have so many stories. So it's me, Britney Spears, and Scotty Pippins. Give me both of your feet. Give me both of your feet. It's good luck. So I'm in my Ferrari, 719.
Starting point is 02:23:34 Only four of those to make. Me, Bill Gates. What's that white girl from the Spice Girls? Uh, Ginger. Her husband. We're the only three guys. I'm sorry to soccer player. What?
Starting point is 02:23:48 So it's me. Enzo Ferrari's grandson. Oh, the white dude from the hangover. Okay. Which one? Cheach. Snoot pull-up. Cheach and O'Chon.
Starting point is 02:24:01 Which one? It's Willie Nelson's birthday. Man. I'm on FaceTime with Britney Spears. Was Jackie Chan Jr. there? Jackie Chan was there. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:24:13 I know what you. So all of the ladies from the viewer fucked up. They've been day drinking since two o'clock, sloppy. Yeah. I really don't know. I don't know where it went. So I had this crib next door to Oprah Winford. Limo drop.
Starting point is 02:24:31 Limo drop. It's me. Whoopie Goldberg. Uh-huh. The limo drive. We all outside. Right. Talking over the fist for each other.
Starting point is 02:24:46 That is hilarious. What? Man, you're supposed to remember some... You don't remember some of that shit. I don't remember. Not like I don't remember. It's just... You don't know where the shit is.
Starting point is 02:24:56 I just don't know how... I just know for a fact I spent over 20 million. But I don't know. Like I said, I had a lot of shit though. Wait a minute. This is the only podcast that you can come on, that nigga gonna celebrate that shit. A nigga's supposed to spend 20.
Starting point is 02:25:12 Don't feel bad about this shit. You spent 20 and you still up. Oh, I didn't make, I don't make, you know what I'm saying? Don't tell no about you. No, I'm not going to say that good enough. But I'm, I don't say, no, I don't care. You know what I mean? You can't fucking up about it?
Starting point is 02:25:27 I made, I made, I'm doing well, even right now. You know what I'm saying? I'm, like, I don't look at as a bad thing. You got diamonds on your brain, yeah. Come on. I'm enjoying life, man, you only got one of them. 20 million 18, me, who? I wanted to do no comedy.
Starting point is 02:25:42 You just inspired me too. Go crazy. Guess what I'm getting air rings on. Where? What are damn? Titties on them bitchies on them bitches. Ooh. I seen them the day in the jewel snow.
Starting point is 02:25:52 You better get them for a nigga catch. Stop playing with me, man. Two, two titties. It's going to be two titties. But I'm going to, they're going to drip. Got your tag titty two ears. What? Ooh.
Starting point is 02:26:03 I'm the way them bitches like, like, titty two ears. Oh, you never got your earpins, huh? Oh, you never got your earpins on? Yeah. Come on, you high? I ain't never seen no air anything. Okay, I just didn't wear them.
Starting point is 02:26:17 I just didn't wear them today. You gonna be with that shit. Yeah, I have some nice things myself. Ain't nobody putting no hole in my ear, I'll tell ya. I too, you fucked up a nice sum of money, Yadi. What is all accounted for? It's all accounted for. And it's definitely not $20 million.
Starting point is 02:26:34 See, I stopped while I was down. I had fucked up plenty of change. $68 at a time. I remember every dollar. Those are the ones I never forget. About one at a time? Oh, hundreds. Thousands, even, never, never millions.
Starting point is 02:26:58 Never. I'd rather stick my dick in a whiskey bottle. But I'm happy because I grow out of all that shit. I don't care about none of that shit, no. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but niggins want to see you up forever. No, for sure. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:27:15 Gotta keep the blessing going. Thank God every day, man. Every single day. You're about to get 20 million back off nail polished, nigga. Everybody got fingers. Yeah. You're going crazy.
Starting point is 02:27:26 Everybody don't have fingers. So you're telling me a nigga with the nub. The only good thing about this is they won't be in the right of comment about what I just said. Stop, stop. Hey, but they might try to press charge. You are crazy. Give me a finish. Hey, if they get upset,
Starting point is 02:27:45 don't want to see you at me. You all things crazy. Y'all is stupid, bro. They're gonna have somebody to tell you, putting it is getting out of hand. Hey, man. They should let it go, because it's really pointless. Hey, Calo. You the one.
Starting point is 02:28:04 You the one, man. Oh! Give me a hand. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, I got a hand until old. Y'all was a good clapback. Y'all funny, too y'all.
Starting point is 02:28:18 That was a good clap back. Oh, shit. That was a good clap back. That's crazy, bro. Stop it, man. They're gonna be very upset. I love palm tree. I'm trying to put some out back yard.
Starting point is 02:28:30 Ooh, y'all missed it. You should do it. You're going to put them in here. You can just put them. Yeah, I'm trying to get something. I'm going to get some home back down. They got a whole big on. Did you buy it?
Starting point is 02:28:40 No, two dogs. What kind of dogs you get? I had an English bulldog and a, um, chow chow. A chow chow? A chow? A child? When I first met NBA young boy, he had a white baby tiger. A white baby tiger.
Starting point is 02:28:58 That's Tony Montana right there. A white tiger. That shit is like a hundred thousand dollars for a baby, and that shit gonna get big, and you can't keep it. He brought that shit in the studio and I didn't know what this was. Like, you pay $100,000 a lot of a pick and you can't keep. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:29:11 No. I'm about to get a finger monkey. I'm trying to get a one. A what? A finger monkey. You're gonna let me know all the fuck niggins around. A what? Finger monkey.
Starting point is 02:29:20 I'm just trying to finger monkey. You don't fuck with that nigga do. They do it? Go on his pocket. A finger monkey. That's what they, okay. That's hard. That's all right.
Starting point is 02:29:31 That's all right. They ain't scared. They're just going right on you. Like, come on. I'm just trying to finger a monkey. Stop. Oh yeah, okay. I got you.
Starting point is 02:29:40 I'm kind of crazy. I think you missed it, but yeah. I called it. Y'all didn't catch the palm trees over. Yeah, I ain't caught shit y'all are doing on nothing. Oh, it went on, everybody. I was like, palm trees, nobody said nothing. I was like, wow.
Starting point is 02:29:57 Are we not playing anymore? I'm like, wow. I thought you were going to talk about outdoors, the outskirts. No, niggum, we were talking about our hands. I was like, palm trees. I was like, I'm about to smash. Palm trees.
Starting point is 02:30:10 No! They said nothing. I fainted it. Right. Get him out of him. He's spelled us. I fainted on the inside. Man.
Starting point is 02:30:24 Y'all nigga's stupid, bro. The joke did not lie. Y'all thing is crazy, man. It's a stupid, bro. But ya, we appreciate you for coming fucking with it, man. Uh-oh. Oh, Nick. Bull time.
Starting point is 02:30:40 Hey, nobody said nothing about this. It's got his secret. When the first had his hair, like, died, how did he got it when you change it, like when you change the red? Back black? Yeah. Oh, I didn't die. Actually, what happened was.
Starting point is 02:30:53 So when I was down my hair red, I was never home, so I couldn't properly treat and take care of my hair. So the bleach, like, just destroy my hair till it was so thin and eventually when I got to braiding it all fell out. You know what I'm saying? So then I have to have Adam. have add-on hair, like weave and my hair red hair while my braids grow out so I could still have my look,
Starting point is 02:31:14 you know what I'm saying? So then what happened was I could my hair out. And by the time I took the hair out, it was just black. I never died, it just actually all fell out at a point in time. Like when we were shooting the movie, that wasn't my real hair. You knew what shit? Nah, nah, hair not. The braids and shit?
Starting point is 02:31:29 Yeah, that was all because my hair had fell out. Yeah. Well, whoever did your shit, but they're good. No, this is my hair. I know, but I'm saying whoever did it then, they're good, because my sister's, you. You need a little. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:40 Who did? You need to get that yada weed. Yeah. You need to get that yada weed. Oh, Lord. You're about to get a check. It's over. No, it was cool, though.
Starting point is 02:31:50 I mean, I feel like it. I feel like it's a next chapter in my life when I changed my hair color. Because a lot of people always treated me like a child, and I didn't like that. I hate that because, like, I can do the same thing you do. Probably better. You know what I'm saying? But since I'm younger and I have red hair, people just always treated me like some kid. I ain't no kid.
Starting point is 02:32:08 Ain't no wrong with that, cause I can give me some weave. I'm gonna say me some weed. Yeah. Female kid they had the air two weeks. Go on get that brisk. What's gonna call? Huh?
Starting point is 02:32:17 Fuck you weave. Fuck you. That can't sound too good. Put that fuck you weave in your head. Fuck you. Yeah, like. You don't think you'll spell it right. If you spell it right and you say it,
Starting point is 02:32:31 make it sound like a Japanese name. They ain't gonna know it. Fuck you weave or something shit. Make it sound fun. Wee or fuck you? No, cause just think, when somebody asks a chick, is that your real house? Oh yeah, this is mine.
Starting point is 02:32:44 This is called fuck you weed. Mm-hmm. Or whatever, though, you know, that might have went over your head. Fuck you. You get it. Went over your, whatever. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:32:55 Welcome back to the 85 South Show. That's right out. We have made it to the college algebra level of the jokes at this point. Look what is stupid. You've been in here holding it down like an anchor. You did. Oh, there we go.
Starting point is 02:33:09 One more. We appreciate you pulling up on it. You did. Come on, man. I appreciate y'all for happy. Appreciate you. Stop through it. Oh, man, you know, you ain't got to sell off.
Starting point is 02:33:23 That's a good one. That's a good one. No, we're just chilling, bro. We appreciate you coming. That's all love. It letting me know that you steal the real nigger that I thought you were. Is that right? Even why you out here fucking up $20 million.
Starting point is 02:33:36 $20 million. $20 million. Yeah. You steal a real nigger to pull up at the trap house. Yes, sir. Yeah. That's so. 100.
Starting point is 02:33:45 At the time. That is. And we wish you much success on everything you got coming up. Thank you. And keep applying the same pressure that you've been applied to. That's what it is. What advice do you give people about, you know, when they come up to you saying, hey man, I got to do music too, man? What kind of advice would you give me?
Starting point is 02:34:05 Man, it's so hard. because I feel like everybody's different, and everyone's story is different. But the most organic thing to tell somebody who's trying to make it in music is just be yourself, you know? And think outside the box. Everybody who's trying to do music is trying, like, want the same thing as you.
Starting point is 02:34:23 So you gotta figure out what makes you different. You know, like I was talking to a girl last night, and I'm not gonna stray y'all, not last night, but a few nights ago. And I- You didn't pick this shit, because your new chick, what? When? Who is it?
Starting point is 02:34:35 No, no, no, no. This was like a few weeks ago, but I was like, I was like... Don't put a date on it. It's like a long time ago. Long time ago, everything was a long time ago. This one time. It was in my past. I'm good, I can say, I'm good, man.
Starting point is 02:34:49 I'm a single man, you know what I'm saying? But I actually like, you know, what makes you different than the next female? What she said? She couldn't ready to tell me. But she knew she was... Bro, she's 23. She don't know yet.
Starting point is 02:35:05 No, not even... She's way older me. I'm just young. You know what I'm saying? I say just, like, make yourself noticeable. Like, stand out. And I ain't saying do no clout shit, like go punch about in the face on camera or some weird shit. But like, make yourself memorable.
Starting point is 02:35:24 You know? Because at the end of the day, when I die, I want to leave a Mark on art. Right. Legger dear. Yeah. For real. You did that. You're doing it.
Starting point is 02:35:34 Yep. I think I'm gonna leave now. That boy, they were crazy. Well, there you have it, folks. My name was and still is Carlos Miller. You know who this is? It's a little yattie. And the next time you see this nigger,
Starting point is 02:35:58 he's gonna be a fucking billionaire. It's all the people who have active fingers, they're about to start back. This nail policy. I'm telling me. That shit is vegan and cruelty free. Oh, shit, I ain't mad. I don't start just throwing shit out there.
Starting point is 02:36:15 I don't know if they're glue that. And it's made specifically for black people fingers. Yeah. They're white on black skin. It looked better. Oh, that's the white people call it. The chicken is done. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:36:30 That's the white people like, all right, god damn it, that's enough. We heard you guys. We're watching you through your camera. You're watching you through your cameras. No, don't. You know, DC, what you're hitting with? Man, one thing about me, man, you always know, man. Hey, my eyes open up for an ultimate host list.
Starting point is 02:36:46 You know me, more TV shows, more comedy shows. You did. Yeah. Clayton, you know what it is, man. Hey, man, Clayton English. All the English majors, everybody's fuck with me. You know what the fuck it is. It's that time.
Starting point is 02:37:01 God damn, fuck with me, you go see me on some shit I can't talk about. with my beer coming back from the shit. I'm gonna cut it off again. Bro. Dude, we're just. Let's go. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:10 You call him the name's the English major. Yeah, that's the English. That's right. That's a hell of a name for. I try to give me a little fan club. That's five. You gotta just give them a name and they fuck with it. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:37:21 I had some bullshit. What you was called? It was like the fuck you means. The fuck you. Oh, my fuck your means. You already know I know what the fuck you mean. You already know I know what the fuck you mean. You should have called it.
Starting point is 02:37:33 It is right. It is right. It should have caught them the fuck you meaners. Fuck you mean. Fuck you meaners. That shit sounds racist. He don't let no white people in this group. I don't like that.
Starting point is 02:37:45 The fuck you meaners. The fuck you meters. That's too close to the fuck you niggas, uh-uh. I got to find the name. I'm finding the fucking meters. There's go. It's stable. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:37:57 You put some legs on it. It's the foundation. What you call your people? I don't call them. I don't call them. You call them. Call them and they will come. Call them.
Starting point is 02:38:06 They take a little bit more than that to make this. I think I know who your people is. All you got to do is put the call out. The gurus. Sound like a bunch of dudes. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. We're supposed to have this meeting room in the gurus.
Starting point is 02:38:22 Hey, Carlo, it's 10 o'clock where all them tin is at. There aren't any. Oh, the gurus. Hey, you think we can make some breakfast? Give me off this boat. The hose didn't show up. Then the people with no fingers gonna show up. It's gonna show up.
Starting point is 02:38:45 We're so disappointed. They're disappointed. I got one for you. I got one for you. This is gonna hit home because you one of them niggas. Alright, okay. My ariolas. There you go.
Starting point is 02:39:02 My ariolus. That's just for the light. Yup, there you go. That's what I should call it, the Eriolas. Put a little, put a little span of tying on a little. Little Hispanic tying on a little. The Yetiolas. The Gediolas.
Starting point is 02:39:16 Myieriolas. Oh, that's it. Mayeriolas. You've been in your bag, elbow deep. Listen, man. Saferto Domingo approves. Hey, man. El Salvador.
Starting point is 02:39:27 This is the song. This has been the longest outro ever. A special. Technically. Five South Show. Let's get it. Let's get it. I got long drive home.
Starting point is 02:39:42 We all do. Is it still raining? Ain't nobody close. Oh, no, there's nobody close. Ain't that good. You have to move. Ain't that sweet. Far enough to know if somebody following you.
Starting point is 02:39:53 No, bro. Hell no, fuck you. Hey, Yadi, say cheese. Bitches. My bad. My bad. Man, buy me some dog corn for that bullshit. Dope.
Starting point is 02:40:11 Dope. Oh, you're going. Yeah, still going. What? What? You guys. You should because on this weekend, Elon Musk is hosting Saturday Night Live.
Starting point is 02:40:24 You're supposed to say something about it. You're supposed to say something about it. Oh. Crazy. It's all your motels. You better be here at 2.30. You weren't supposed to do that. No, but I got some kids back.
Starting point is 02:40:36 See what I want. I can't buy. You should have left. Like, when you first got in? My bad. I got in like January, but I fought up an egg. Two is like, maybe like three weeks or something. Yeah, what time is?
Starting point is 02:40:48 I ain't snap-off like I did. Yeah, I do one. It probably made like six. Yeah. So I got my six. I didn't get my six. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:58 So what I got my six. I knew every case I don't mind. I didn't even let me tell you for writing. Shit, no. Yeah. Fuck no. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. For My Heart Podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the Turning, River Road. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to ten girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse.
Starting point is 02:41:29 But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to the Turning River Road on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebeney, and every Tuesday, I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace.
Starting point is 02:42:14 You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of family secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.

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