The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - LOLA BROOKE in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:09 He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle the dangerous past, one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened?
Starting point is 00:01:33 My sister was y'all 22 times. A police officer, right? But what do you do when the monster is the man in blue? This dude is the devil. He'll hurt you. This is the story of a detective who thought he was above the law until we came together to take him down. I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Hi, I'm Radhdi Dvlukaya, and I am the host of a really good cry podcast. This week, I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the crappy childhood fairy, a creator, teacher, and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods. Talking about trauma isn't always great for people. It's not always the best thing about a third of people who are traumatized, kids feel worse when they talk about it, get very dysregulated. Listen to a really good cry on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's your height?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Me? Good Baddy. I'm like 6'6 next to you. Oh, then that means I'm 7-2. Yeah, I'm 5'8. I'm 7-2. Do you know that gun bigger than her? My man's enough.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I don't know other men. See? Give me. X time dope. I carry. Yeah. Suckety, you should have knew it from the gecko. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Don't believe it. Don't play it. Come on, baby. Don't you know. Just made it. Spitting a grill. See, I knew you were real when you pulled up. Because these are some gangster niggas.
Starting point is 00:03:45 And there are a lot of y'all. It's like three of y'all, but these are some New York gangster niggins. I know that nigga in the back with the green will stab somebody. Oh my God. Nah. Yes the fuck we will. Don't entertain that. When I'm outside, I'm working.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I know it. He lurking, though. That's the type of nigga that me like, yo, yo, what the fuck? No, those are good people. I know. And the nigga with the tall tils, that's the killer. They is good people. No.
Starting point is 00:04:15 They are good people. That nigh got on some scrushed up town. They're good people. They don't get no more New York than that, man. Why your team's got extra neck on that muck fucking, man? Nick, you have giraffe skinned around the top of the Thames and shit. Bro, when you can tuck your pants leg and your Tim, there's a lot of fucking boots, man.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yo, you irritating, son. All right, I want to know how you made this, right? So they play you the beat. Take it from now. As soon as you hear this, my name, did you hear it? The first thing I said was, don't play with it. The who? The who?
Starting point is 00:04:57 The first thing I said was, don't play it. I'm like, I can. kept saying it. That's why the pull-ups sound like that. Because I'm like, don't play with it, don't play with it, don't play with it. I ain't know what to say right there. And I said it again, don't play with it. That's how I came up. So then when I caught that, I'm like, I really felt that way, though. I'm like, damn, this is how I really feel then, so this go crazy. It's an anthem, though. You know how you, some shit is songs. It's an anthem, though.
Starting point is 00:05:19 But I ain't know that I was, I didn't know what this song was going to do for me. I had no idea. Yeah. How long is the song? I put that shit out in 2021. No, I'm talking about how long is the song? Like 216? Two 16. They get in and get the fuck on, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Straight to the point. This song used to be seven minutes long back in the day. Yeah, I heard. Three, whole 16s, bro. Even if it's two artists in the group. What the hook? Do you remember when the fourth verse was like the shit? Song along the hell.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Then let the instrumental play for a whole minute at the end. We got a little dance. Just on then again, loop that bitch and, make his own song, dead ass. I ain't mad at it, you know what I'm saying? That's why the rap game got fucked up a little bit. Then you stopped putting them instrumentals out because them instrumentals was grooming
Starting point is 00:06:13 the next generation of rappers, man. Because you remember, like, when you buy the single, you get the song, you get the album version and the radio version. Then on the other side, you get some bullshit song and like an instrumental. Sometimes it just be an instrumental, and then like a jazz, version of the instrumental or some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah. Remember that? Like a live performance. Little B-side? That shit don't even be on the album. You be like, who the fuck? But you ain't had shit but that single, so then you started fucking with the other shit. When we did with Little Walter, man?
Starting point is 00:06:45 We backed over a little Walter instrumental. Little Walter. They had the instrument on that. We wrapped over that for about two years. My brother had the old-school karaoke machine where you could flip the button and whatever shit you play. It'll just play the instrument. Nigger, we had 8662 songs of our own version. I had made a remix to Johnny Taylor last $2.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Man. Do you remember when Johnny Taylor dropped this time we got a good love? You remember that summer when all the old people in Mississippi would turn up on that? Yes, sir. That beat was so hard. The beat was probably 12, 13. I don't remember that shit.
Starting point is 00:07:24 They still used the beat. That good little beat, still hard. Three-six weren't crazy with it, though. Yes, yes. I'm like... Who you grew up listening to? T-Pain? He's one of you.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I saw you really fucking with 50 shit. Love 50. Yeah, you met him yet? You ran the tune? Mm-hmm, I met him. Meek, Little Wayne. Of course, J-Z. Of course.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah. But, like, Meek and Meek Wayne was, like, that those are the two artists that, that's the reason why I'm rapping to. So you was outside doing the chicken noodle soup and all that. You're making it rain. Yep. I clear it out.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Let's go a letter. Tiana Taylor came on your block. Nah, she's from Harlem. I know, but she was like, wasn't she the one who came up with the dance? Or she was real good at it or something? What, the chicken noodle soup? Yeah, she was fucking it up for a man. No, that was, um, it's young, town, duh.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Little Bee, Young Bee? It was Young Bee. And a dude, wouldn't it? DJ, um, Star Webster. Webstar or Star Webster. Which one is it? Webster. It's Webster. Webster.
Starting point is 00:08:34 He was closer. I was close. You're talking with Biggie? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I had no choice growing up. I had to listen to that, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I'm just so happy he was tough, though. He was hard. Biggie was that dude. He was tough. I ain't on front. New York. They got some big L. I know of, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I don't know. You gotta fuck with Big El. I know you fuck with Knows, man. Yeah. Hold. Yeah. I ain't learned about Big El, for real, until he was gone. For real?
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yeah. I've heard his name. I started fucking with him. Way back with Rap City used to play his video MVP. Because I used to love to listen to rap. I listened to the words, right? Big El, if rap was the game, he's the MVP. That nigga went so crazy on that bitch.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I started listening to all his shit. And who else you know? Because you're going. From New York? Yeah. Oh, fucking LL Kool-J. Yep. This was the coolest.
Starting point is 00:09:33 LL. Kool-J, they don't, I don't think this nigga will ever get enough credit. This was the coolest motherfucker. And he did that in the world. He put a lot of rappers out of business. Yeah, he did. In the 80s, big one, I ain't going to front. Man, this thing was so cold. We had to get grown to even realize what some of this shit mean.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Uh-huh. Y' facts. Facts. Facts. All facts. My mama, too. mean, she said, she ain't never listened to rap. Rap was already out about about seven years.
Starting point is 00:10:03 She said, she didn't listen to him to L.A. Coogey took off his shirt. I was like, what the hell? I remember being a little kid and my dad going to a Halloween party and him and his partners was Ron DMC. Wow. I remember I was so mesmerized by this shit. I was like, this is the coolest shit I ever seen, though. They were them, for real.
Starting point is 00:10:25 My grandma won at a card game when I was a little boy. She won all the money, and she won a big-ass boombox like Radio Rahim had. And I was with her, and she let me have that, motherfucker. Fuck the game all the way up. But, like, when I was a kid, I had the big-ass, like, the big, fat-ass TV. Yeah. And I had a whole stereo, like, in my room, my whole life, man. Another flex for y'all, because Dot Ness said, I don't flex on y'all enough.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I wouldn't be telling these things. I grew up better than me. hate when I started flexing my life. So your life wasn't hard? My life was fucking amazing. That's good. We was a hood rich as fuck. This shit pissing me off. You're talking about. No, I'm saying like my uncle's. Now you're saying that shit like you're just fucking. My uncles was real street niggins and they was good at selling drugs and knocking people out and taking their shit. So I had a very good life and then my grandma was a hustler. She was
Starting point is 00:11:21 the candidate in the daytime. She sold big and she had the card game. She was selling selling fish and then my auntie was doing hell and then my mom was just all around hustler and then my daddy was real good at shooting pool and dice and he always had some kind of little plotting scheme going on and my whole family is just hustlers and shit so if the comedy shit didn't work out I would just join the family business
Starting point is 00:11:41 and probably had like nine hustles selling something being the plug on something yeah I feel you on that yeah in the 80s early 80s they was all drug bills then everybody transitioned to you know just schemes and plots.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Mm-hmm. Yeah. But we had a great life. Yeah. Sound good. You had a stereo in your room. And the TV, man. You didn't have one?
Starting point is 00:12:04 Shit, no. I ain't have a room. Damn. There's no. My room was so bad. Never had a room. You ain't never had a room? No.
Starting point is 00:12:12 When I went to my grandma house, I was sleeping in my cousin in the old room. Well, there's a lot of y'all, though. Eight of us. Yeah. That's a lot. That's just kids. I'm the only child, though. Damn.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I'm the second one. It was six more behind me. behind me. All of the uncle. You're not even a brother. All my siblings are lighting me. He's the only one daughter's good. All the darkest sibling.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm probably the darkest nigger in my family. They all hate them. You're stupid. They treat them different. Shit. My cousin wake me up and tell me who I had to fight. Look, man, this nigga around the corner. You're gonna fight them or you're a bitch.
Starting point is 00:12:49 That's it. Damn. Swear of God. That need cab them were crazy, bro. Well, kudos to your childhood. Damn, bro. My childhood was, it was, yeah, had his moments, too. I remember one time I got jumping by my whole neighborhood
Starting point is 00:13:01 because they were like, everybody got to get jumped in the hood. I was like, we already live here. So everybody got jumped. I thought it was fucked up until I got to jump the next person. Yeah. You get what I mean? Like, I thought the niggas had crossed me until it was time to jump somebody else. Come on, we're about to get that niggum.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I was like, we're gonna whoop that nigger ass. With the movement, man. Dang. You jumped and still living and lit. Yeah, bro. Telling you, she was lit. Now looking back, I wish we had like just one more weekend.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I want to have one more weekend, bro. As a kid? I take, I pick to go back to 1995. Either 95 or 99. Yeah, why 95, 99? 95 was good. 95 was good in the motherfucker, bro,
Starting point is 00:13:58 because it seemed like everybody had got like their income tax or something. Motherfuckers had some money. Black people were getting their hat done every weekend. That's when the barbershop was packed every Saturday morning. What y'all was doing in that year? Bill Clinton was in August.
Starting point is 00:14:15 NBA jam. I'm talking about at the crib, nigga. This was the shit. 95 was that year. Your mama got a new car at 95. Mm-hmm. I think my grandma, my mama had got a Bens or Cadillac. I'm telling you, 95. All black people had got new cars, bro. Grand Ames was real popular.
Starting point is 00:14:34 95. Everybody had got, and that's when they had came out with them. There was a glitch in the system? The New Park Avenue. Y'all remember them? Oh, that's, okay. Chrysler 300 and shit came out. Everybody had them expeditions too many.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Them Pallos. Them Airmacs. And I'm just like. You missed it. You was a baby. Yeah. The movie Friday came out. I couldn't walk yet, nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:55 For real? Oh, nigger. 95 was so lit. What year was you born? 94. Okay. Oh, yeah. I just made it.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I just made it. You was one years old and Friday came out. Yeah. I was. The movie Friday came out. I felt like that came out when I was like eight. We just kept watching it. We watched that thing for about 15 years.
Starting point is 00:15:15 We kept watching it. We like Friday so much, we bought the VHS and the DVD. Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on jokes aside. Or jokes aside. Oh, jokes inside. That came on, when? Ninety-five.
Starting point is 00:15:25 April of 95. He knows. He studied shit like this. Yep. 95, I'm telling you, that was a good-ass summer. Those new Fylus had came out to Grand Hills. Feelech had a whole bunch of new Sean Camps came out. Come on, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:15:46 The Bulls was whoopin' everybody ass. Who they beat that year? Jordan wasn't even playing in 95. He had just came. He was on wearing their four-five. Come on, man. They beat the Sonics that here, you know. Dionne Sandus came on a cap on.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Come on, man. Talk that shit. They were their third Super Bowl. They were they loud, too. It was lit. So you were definitely made out of love. I was. You're a love child.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm a love child for sure. In the 90s, definitely. I'm a love child for sure. Yeah, yeah. That music, your father walked over there to see his baby mother. He took the train, and he walked like eight blocks. to see your mother. Nah, what he had to do was walk around the corner.
Starting point is 00:16:26 He was out there. He had his chin's on. He probably had a little 25 in his boot because that's what niggas was doing. In 95. Probably stealing his jacket. Yeah, my father was outside. Snucked the nigga outside the bodega,
Starting point is 00:16:37 got his name up in the hood. You don't stop telling my fan's business. He was selling a little weed back then. Kept the strap on him, though. Niggas never tried. Got in the Greyhound a couple of times. Yeah, you know, nigga had something set up in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Nothing crazy. Yeah, for sure. Just to make Christmas and keep moms, you know, take care of moms. Because they didn't care of moms. Yeah, niggas was, now it was Mom's Duke back in 95. Mom Duke's. Mom Dukes. Mom Dukes.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah. Had the little Jetta or whatever. North Carolina, they stay state, bro. That's their south. New York niggas come to North Carolina. Yo, this shit is wide open. country out here, son. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:24 You take over this whole shit. Yeah, bro. Yo, I'm telling you, what to my mother? When I go back to New York and come back, niggas ain't ready, B. Niggas ain't ready. No, Caroline. Y'all always think we say B.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Y'all do. I say a lot of stuff. I don't say B. You know what's funny, though? When you see niggas from New York and niggas from the South and act with each other, bro. We look at y'all the same way. y'all look at us.
Starting point is 00:17:53 It's love because it's family because we're black people but the same way y'all laugh at the shit we say we're saying we'd be laughing at that shit y'all say too. How you say, yeah. How ya say? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah. Yeah. Yo? That's how I say. That means that there's some extra shit to go with it. That's not yes. When the niggas say, yo.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yo. Yo. That mean, whatever you're saying, that mean, I'm going to add a little bit of my bullshit to it. We're trying to go to hit the club, yo. And I'm all right.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yo, y'all are we in with you, too. Y'all'm always in with you. Yeah. Yeah. That's y'all facts. I'm telling you. We say facts. Y'all say y'all.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Oh no, y'all say no cap now, right? I don't know. Because me and Duff from a time, what cap meant something completely different. What do you mean? That was some fire-ass head. Yeah. That's that?
Starting point is 00:18:45 Let these holes put cap in the lap. Yeah. She got some fire-ass cap. Your country is fuck. What the fuck? What's to say what? I guess it's just that we didn't... Yeah, she got some fire-ass cap in the lap.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Yeah, she got some fire-ass cap. No, I'm so happy I switched that shit up. But we, old enough, we didn't see the slang evolve into some other shit because you remember when twerk ain't had nothing to do with that. Twerk. What was twerk? Twerk was the flip. I'm trying to twerk something.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah. Yeah. Now you was trying to do something, a little something. Trying to make a move. Trying to make something twerk something. You got to twerk something. Well, New Orleans is like when you, like, when you owe something and you only got like some of the money, you got to try to twerk something. You got to make that motherfucker straight.
Starting point is 00:19:30 You got to pull the plate. You got to twerk something. And they change the definition. And the word cap, don't it come from like the old word high capping? That word, high cap in his line. Yeah, high cap in his line. See, it's not new. It's just evolved.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It just shortened it up the cap. Yeah, yeah. Mm. Flex, it was bad. Huh? Lexing was bad, huh? Oh, yeah, Plex? I remember the word, I remember the word player header first came out.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Like, there was no word. You had to take a nigger drilling you. Now, whoa. Well, you're right. Not the front of lower. I don't do the Paul stuff. I don't do all that. Yeah, I feel.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I feel it. I feel you. I don't do that. But anyway, I remember when there was no way. Like in 94, 95, the Loonies, West Coast started talking about player haters and people started using their word. It was no way.
Starting point is 00:20:25 You just had to listen to somebody bring you down. That word way older than the lonies, though. The player hater? Yeah. Who said player hater before? You got to go all the way back to Icebury Slim now.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Tell me, player hater? Yeah, that's... Yeah, player hater. I'm talking about the same definition? Absolutely. You got to think about it now. Where hate been out for a long time, but the definition in that 95, it was strictly it, well, you're probably right, because 90s didn't even start saying hate to, like, well, I can't say start saying it, but Jive was the shit first. When you was a jive-ass nigger, your name was fucked up in this street.
Starting point is 00:21:04 How they say that? Jive turkey. Jive turkey. That means you were a full of shit-ass nigger. Jive turkey. That was real, do you really have to pour your piss on a nigger? Was that the 70s? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:16 70s, right? Yeah. 60s and 70s. Okay. Might be older than that, but that's when we start seeing it on TV. They started reliving the 70s in the 90s. You remember the niggins started wearing afroes and bell bottoms again early 90s? It was a whole thing. It's going to come back. They was doing that in the 90s too? Yes. I had Africa. Where? Everybody did. Snoop Dogg. That's when I met him, he had the low, then he grew the fro. Oh, yeah. Um, uh, what's that movie? Uh, he got gained with Disney. had the fro?
Starting point is 00:21:48 That was the second resurgence of the fro. But that 90s, well, 993. You got this shit down pack. Where the fuck is the calendar? I was there. She went in New York for a red. I was there. That's some New York shit for nothing.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Where the fuck is the calendar, son? I was there. Like, how do you know this shit down pack? Like a dictionary. When Snoop went on Martin and they threw the party at Gina Crip and the nigga had the big froth. Yeah, that made, that shit set off a Firestone. Everybody won an afro after that.
Starting point is 00:22:21 He told your wrong. Ice Cube came right up in there, too, with the Fro. When he did that other joint. High learning. He was on High Learning. But I'm talking about the album. You know, he had an album first before that. With that lethal injection?
Starting point is 00:22:35 The one with today is a good day on that bitch. Death certificate. Remember he got on his black power shit for a minute. Remember he did that bit. That's on Who's the Mac? Now, ask yourself, who's the matter? It was all about sell-out niggas, and niggas getting corporate jobs and getting white women, and a nigger had a sweater tied around his neck.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Remember that shit? Now your name is Just Twan. I wish you was there, though, Lowe. It was lit. Yeah, I don't know. I know. It was lit. today. You've already got the idea, so make it real in 26 with a pro-level website. GoDaddy makes it easy with the lowest-priced website builder, guaranteed. Ready to build a confetti-ready site in minutes? New customers start for free at go-dadi.com. That's go-dadi.com to get the lowest-priced
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Starting point is 00:27:57 whatever, pick me one. Let's see, let's see. Just pick me one. Because it's a time to go to work, we don't know I really walk down memory lane. Shit didn't got real. It didn't got real.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Y'all thought that we were just going to be in here kicking it the whole time. Now, we got to get to these things. business, lo. Right. We gotta get to this business. We gotta get to this money.
Starting point is 00:28:20 You heard? I did. Oh, okay. I did. Okay, okay. Get money in this biscuit. The fuck I did. Totally be big dogs.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's like puppy. I want to direct this video. I feel like you need to be robbing the bank and you're getting away real fast. Like that part of it? I see that. No, like you did. Like I did it? Like I did it?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah. On some girl, like on some woman girl power shit. Hell yeah. Big girl driving. Mm-hmm. Oh, like set it all? Y'all speeding through traffic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Money flying out the back. Like the move of the town. Yeah. Remember the move of the town, jump out the police right there. Uh-huh. And I pop out of the van with a parachute. Police don't even chase you. Why would you jump out the van with a parachute?
Starting point is 00:29:06 You're on the ground, I read. No. You want to jump off a bridge with it? It takes a long time. I get somebody to do the stunt for that. It takes me a long time to get there. Oh, okay. You guys, y'all just step out.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I gotta jump out. You know what I'm saying? What's past you? Yeah, like. Pass it open? This bar right here. You running through somebody back yard, you jumping fences.
Starting point is 00:29:29 It's dogs. Chasing me? Fats, I can fuck with that. That's what I do. You do that in real life. Niggas ducking wreck. You won't catch me at the fountain. Tuck your shit, what you're about to say?
Starting point is 00:29:45 This pain, leave that weight floating on us. You don't want to hit the bars telling a nigga hit the door. Get money. Get money in it. I'm in this bitch doing push-up. You're a real gangster. Doing push-up. You're doing push-up?
Starting point is 00:29:59 You're doing push-up? But I'm just... Okay, so... I can do 20 if I put my mind to it, but 10 is a good... I'm going straight through 10 for sure. You good money. You good money. You good money.
Starting point is 00:30:11 good money. That's just funny as hell to hear a woman wrapped in. I mean, this bitch doing push-up. Real? What would you do if you walk in here and your girl was in that bitch doing push-up, man? She's about to leave you. She's about to leave you.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Back. Real talk. That means don't, don't hold me back when I walk out this door. Ain't nobody going to hold you back. After doing that, But then a nigger might want to come and be like, nah, nah, nah, no, no, no, I need you on my squad.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Might help. You might get to me before the guys do when I need help. Oh, word. I like that. Let that shit play. Hey, welcome back to the 85-7 show. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And I can just say we're talking big shit today. Big shit. Yeah, we're talking at talk. Big things popping over here today. The biggest. I got my player partner. None other than Kelly Cade do a walker in here. Oh yeah, you feel?
Starting point is 00:31:16 Definitely. I got J-O-N in here. Yes, sir. And I got the magnificent, spectacular, undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. Hullabrook! Oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Doing push shot. First of all, welcome to the 85 South Show. Thanks for having me. I'm so happy I'm here. I ain't gonna hold you. Man, you always. You're welcome to come to the 85. I come in any time I want.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Anytime. Yeah, y'all got the food, y'all got, you said the food stamps is gone. Their food stamps are cut off. But it's food today, though. But today, but the food stamps about to get cut off. So when I come back, bring your food. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Bring your lunch. Right, right. Because now, at this point, again, we're calling in all favors. We've got to call everybody we know until we, you know, figure this thing out. I'm going to let my moms know, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I don't know what we're about to do. I think we're about to put a little canned food drive together. other or something. But you know what's going to separate our canned food drive from all the rest of them? We're going have a can open us. You got to give me some of that. Everybody have a canned food drive. Nobody has can
Starting point is 00:32:25 on. They don't have a can open. They don't. Don't wait, hold on. Don't. Don't don't still that. You know they're going. That's one of them ones that you paid for free. That's the one going to make the world better, bro. Bring some can openers to the canned food drive. Because you imagine being hungry.
Starting point is 00:32:41 fuck you don't love these heavy ass cans back to your little spot and next thing you know you can't even get to the fucking food. That's a fact. Like, why every kid can be like spam? Huh? Why every can can't be like spam? We just pull that bitch open. They'll fuck up the profits.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Because people don't know a lot about business. Spam actually losing on the key. You feel what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. But they do it for the people. Because they want you to get to this But they're actually losing on the key. If they take the key off, they'll win. Profits will jump up 500%.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Some fuck's got to lose every now and there. Come on, what the fuck? Who's doing business? Right. Delta took one tomato off their salad, say, the millions of dollars a year. Took one tomato off their salad. I just think that they would have took tomatoes off altogether. and be discussing all kinds of shit. Here go your water back, too.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Thank you. Now, look, this is your first time over here at the 85 South Shore. So catch us up. Let us know to all the people who've been asleep, all the people who might not know, because we got fans from the ages of two
Starting point is 00:33:59 to 97. So let them know what I've been up to? Let them know what you've been up to, how it started. I've been doing what I need to do. How it started? it started. All right, so I always say, like, I didn't choose to rap. Rap chose me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Like, I never looked for anything out of it. It was just therapeutic. I was just doing it because it was something to do. And the people's in the towns, it's like, yo, you need to, like, take it serious. I ended up taking it serious. I met it with my squad, Team 80. We've been in it for years, just thugging it out. And then, don't play. with it came. Yeah. To sum it up, like that. That's straight to the point.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Straight to the point. How long were you... It ain't happened overnight, though. I know, that's what I was about to say. How long were you involved with it before it started really making sense to you? In general, like, from the very... Yeah. My first song I ever made, I put it on my MySpace page.
Starting point is 00:35:00 That's how long I've been rapping. Mm. MySpace. What year was that? Uh, what, 2008? Eight. It was. That's when my space was jumping. That's when you could have like a top 35.
Starting point is 00:35:17 We had six, seven, and eight was one. I remember when it was that top eight, you catch your head. Boy, that top of eight made everybody look at you different. Your real friends was like, you don't even know this nigger. Oh, that was fucked up. Yeah. I have my own little playlist on there. For real, all your shit.
Starting point is 00:35:38 All right. Boy, boy, boy. Then they had to open it up to, like, top 35 or something. Yeah, they went all that. Yeah, they went to top 10, top 20. People coming on your page, just showing some love and all that. Yeah, you can see all the comments. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I stayed on that thing for about 28 hours one time, man. Just sitting there. Just sitting there. Just sitting there. I'm telling you, I was on that phone. Wait for your messages to pop up. Damn, boy. That was on the thing, $20.8.
Starting point is 00:36:10 But the way that shit, you look at it, that shit was slow as hell compared to social media now. You look forward to going home. That shit was like going to the post, though. It ain't lit outside? I bet. Going to the crib, going laundry. I get me on my page.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Ain was lit. Because they weren't letting the heatings on Facebook yet at that time. You had to be in college? Yeah. With an EDU. I had me one. You had EDU? I was in college by around.
Starting point is 00:36:38 No, I wasn't. I was in college, like, 0, 4, 05. But you still had an EVE? Yeah, because that's when they first started this shit, I think, because they set it up through the college shit because they used to send the homework shit first through the Facebook. What? It was a school joint.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So the school had, like, a pool. And then you had the, they could send you working shit through the Facebook. Yeah. That's what it was. I couldn't even eat on there. My classmates was on there. I was like, man, they all. They all on that together.
Starting point is 00:37:11 They all on it together. I'm missing out. At first, you had to be in college to have a Facebook page. Yeah. I thought that was just, like, for adults when I was growing up. Like, well, that's my mom's in the MySpace type thing. Facebook is to deal some of the funnier shit, though. That's a whole different world over there.
Starting point is 00:37:31 It's really like going to visit your cousins in the project. Yeah, for sure. I love Facebook. I mean, I don't be on there, but. But I go on there and I stay tapped in. Like, if you want to know something's going on in the town, we go on Facebook. I stay tapped in on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I know everything on Facebook. Back in the towns where I'm from, every Sunday, for some reason every Sunday is always lit in the towns. Always. It's like, you know somebody get fessed up. What's it like out there? I'm saying, so if we was out there, right, me and K. Dove, some niggas from the South,
Starting point is 00:38:02 we're walking down in the block. What are we going to see? What part? I'm saying what? Because it depends. Over there where y'all at? In the star? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Oh, they don't, they wiped us out. Best star? What you mean? They're wiping us out. It's a lot of YTs out there now. Oh. That just let you know they've been one to come living in the head with us for the longest. Word, right?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Hell yeah. They're wiping us out, though. I mean, there's certain parts where it's still the same, but it's not what it used to be. I see they're taking that land right when you come over that bridge from Lower Manhattan, Dumbo area. Like, they push them back from there, right? That's where it started. Yeah, that's where it started.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And you know where I'm from the start, it's right there by downtown. So that's where Dumbull is downtown. It's right there. They're starting right there. Everything touching it is going to catch the... It's downtown Clinton Hill and Best Stars is all. I don't know why they be mad.
Starting point is 00:38:58 I've been thinking about this shit, right? Because I like solutions. Like the gentrification. Yeah, that's a good word I was looking for. To the hood, right? Wait till we find out where they're moving from and then we move out there. You know what that's going to do.
Starting point is 00:39:11 They're just going to make them want their shit back. You ain't lying. That's true. Once they see us out there and join all that shit that they didn't want no more, they're going to play, hey. No, y'all want the hood. Y'all got out of that shit.
Starting point is 00:39:26 You bought that apartment where they killed Baker ain't a man. You bought that same apartment that baby ain't any of them killed that, bro. That was a crack house. that motherfucker. You didn't want this ranch. You know what I got this bitch for? Now, man, what Rick Ross say, we're raising our own chickens. Thousands of chickens, niggins. Yeah, now they're like, as a New Yorker, it's like, oh, you get some money, you go down south. Now I'm like, you get some money, you go down south. You got to get a farm, too. Like, you can't Yeah, don't just buy a house, get you some acreage.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Hell yeah, it ain't gonna be in Atlanta, more. Shit, much as y'all pay in New York, you can definitely come to the South and buy you a crib. They're punching us out there. Hell yeah. I couldn't do it. They paying them, too. The kitchen counter is, you got the fridge, oven.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. All right. Every time you walk in the kitchen, you hit your ass on the counter. That's, that's, I don't. I don't fuck with that. I would have been left. Yeah, New York can't give me no space, boy. No, what? It just ain't never quiet in that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:40:42 That's the shit that drives me crazy. But see, when it's too quiet, it drives me crazy. Nah, I need this. Hey. If it's too quiet for too long, I'd be like, yo, what's going on? Like, you know how when the kid's too quiet, you're like, the fuck they're up to. Like, that's how it be.
Starting point is 00:40:59 No, it's supposed to be like that. At some point in the day, everything is supposed to shut the fuck up. No, but see. I like, no, I like where I rest my head to be peace and quiet. But after a while, when I go out, you know, I got to hear something. I'm a New York baby, like, I got here some.
Starting point is 00:41:17 We're from the South. We're like, when you get dark, you shut the fuck up. No. You get 12 hours to be loud and sometimes you don't hear of cricket. Shut the fuck up. A nigger get rid of all the crickets. And shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:41:32 At some point out of the day, you can turn back up whenever you. you wake up but man you got shut the fuck up for a little bit now I'm with you on that because I sometimes I like you know I'm that person that if I was to take a Uber I in the radio not on I'll leave that shit off yeah I just ride in silence a few little minutes a piece yeah so man when your shit took off on like the social media what was that next day like you know how that shit it just like it seemed like it'd be a whole just a day and then it just go crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Nah, but see, me, I was going viral before music, though. So, like, when it hit for music, I still wasn't, it didn't hit me. I was like, oh, okay. Like, all jokes aside, like, all of this stuff happening to me, I didn't realize it until probably, like, the top of this year. For real? Hell yeah. I ain't never live in a moment of nothing.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Like, I couldn't feel it. I didn't know what it meant. Like, word. It was like I was working towards something, but in my mind, I was like, I was prepared to not get it. I was preparing myself to not get it so much that when I finally got that bitch, I couldn't feel it. Yeah. Some people live in a whole moment like that, 12 years, be on top like a motherfucker, and go away, they'd be like, I didn't even know I was on top like that. No, that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Now, I get to sit back and look, and I'd be like, the fuck. I had no clue. It probably was that third day, though. It's like watching your career, Lowe's. It felt like that to me. Like, you was already there, already just gliding off to me looking at you. So if you didn't enjoy it, even though you did. If you didn't enjoy 05-06, he was a fool.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I enjoyed it all that shit. I know you did. But this is the crazy. Like you were saying, I don't feel like I did shit. I'm still like, that's why I get it. I'm still like what they got over there. There's some more shit over there. It wasn't no internet when we started like that.
Starting point is 00:43:35 So my internet thing I graduated high school and I was on Comic View the next year so that's the internet and I still didn't grasp it I still didn't grasp it man
Starting point is 00:43:45 bro you're all the way on comic view bad boys of comedy and I just and still right now to this day I can't grasp it because it'd be so much up and down then you might know where your pocket's in and you'd be like no
Starting point is 00:43:57 I ain't definitely ain't famous oh you could be famous I know but I'm saying I just use the word famous but I ain't up I'd be like I'd be like But see, growing up, that's all we would say as kids is, I want to be famous because fame was, was wealth to us. And when you get there, you're like, should I rather had a wealth than fame?
Starting point is 00:44:15 You know what I'm saying? Shit. I always thought the fame came with the money. Exactly, right. But it don't. It really, totally separate. It don't. It's really separate.
Starting point is 00:44:28 It's separate. It'd be famous people, then this one guy be the man. Mm-hmm. That's why it's like the lifestyles of the real. rich and famous. Yeah. They don't never have nobody on there who's just famous. They ain't about to show up at your goddamn one and a half
Starting point is 00:44:44 bedroom condo because you're famous? You got to be rich, too. Real talk. They used to be a flexing ass show, bro. What's that? Richem. Lifestyles of the rich and famous. What's your name was?
Starting point is 00:44:59 Robert Leach. Yeah, way do you see riding down Beverly Hills Boulevard? And everything they had on the 7 was better than all the shit you had. And they eat goose eggs straight out of the goose's eyes. Swear to God. I swear to God. Everything they did on lifestyle that in Richie Fendez was way better than the shit you had. They make a regular-ass day for rich people sound so good.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Six o'clock in the morning, waking up to champagne. Before they lay back down, dick sucks for the whole crew. Rob, at least you can make anybody. Man, make anything sound good. Roasted potatoes over steak, and that's just for breakfast. You'd be like, damn. Then they wait to the very end. Worth an estimated $463 million.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I think that's impressive. Wait till you see the motherfucker coming up after the commercial. He rich in this, nigga. They never show the people, just their shit. He'll throw the whopping on there, a whopping. A whopping, a whopping $17 billion. Man, the grass alone. 88,000 a month.
Starting point is 00:46:29 You'd be like, God. And this is in the 80s. Fucked up Or Aubin Leach Fucked up to home How you like coming to the South As a New Yorker I mean I live in my family here
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah My mom's got a house out here Auntie like we got a lot of family out in the South Alabama all that Yeah That's hard right there Yeah It's not to connect with it
Starting point is 00:46:58 That's the both world I'd be telling people like my mom's will send me down south as a kid stay out there for a little few I'll come back to New York with manners I know I'd say excuse me that shit don't exist in New York
Starting point is 00:47:14 No it can't You'll wait your time You'll just fuck out my waist But see that's the day Now I got both So it's like I start off polite Yeah I don't got to be polite
Starting point is 00:47:26 So what the fuck Move the fuck out the way now I say excuse me That's why that's the part about New York. You got mad for real. You got mad for real. I started thinking about it. You get the fuck out of New York.
Starting point is 00:47:40 That's why I love New York. Because when you just walk in minding your business, if you start for a half a second, you can get in everybody's business. That's what you're saying? It ain't nothing to see. Bro, I said two white dudes arguing in New York. And the white dude says some shit.
Starting point is 00:47:54 You'll never hear in another argument, bro. He asked the other white dude. He said, hey. You want me to kick your ass? How do you answer that? No, I don't, but I'm just saying. You're saying what, motherfucker?
Starting point is 00:48:17 You want me to kick your ass? You want me to kick your ass? That's a hell of a question, ain't it? You don't even know if you can do it or not. He definitely asked, though. Hey, shit-haven. You want me to kick your ass? You really can't say excuse me in New York, though, because if you do,
Starting point is 00:48:33 whoever you bump, it's a mile back that way already. They ain't even stopped, even entertaining. You ever bump into that white person in New York that act like they're in a movie? Like, it's a small, it's so dramatic, though. They grab their coat like they got top secret in it. What the fuck is all that? No, they don't do me like that. They'd be like, is somebody kid here lost?
Starting point is 00:48:55 So I don't go through that. Hey, little girl, where's your mom? Where's your mom? I did a video in New York one time just bumping people showing how they don't care. I was like, yo, I'm just going to walk and bump people, and I'm going to show you they don't care. And I just bumped people, and nobody even looked back. You bound to get bumped. Like, if you're going on.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I just did it. I just had my phone out, bumping people, like, literally bumping people. Bump the police. But that was in the city? Yes. That was in the city. Manhattan. No, I was about to go to know who didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I was in Manhattan. In their traffic. The people out there, the business, people out there, they get ready to be bombed. Like, they know they're going to get fucked before going to work. I was not in nowhere in Brooklyn or nowhere in the Bronx or nowhere in the Harlem's. I was in Manhattan. That's a strange place. It's either you're a bumper or you're getting bumped.
Starting point is 00:49:42 But whichever one you want to be in the towns, you got a pick. That's a strange place. But I love it, though. It's solid, though. Help don't even work up there. Like, you can fall down and say help. Like, nobody little to help you. Because they know you're going to get up.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Yes, to ask most of them. You know who's going to show up? You want me to kick your ass? They don't attack on you. You want me to kick your ass? Now, why the fuck with you fall in front of me? Like, they don't give us fun. Especially if it's on some shit like the bus or some shit like that, the train.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Fuck around and fall on the train, hold the train up. Yo, my nigger, get your ass up. Y'all got too. They're going to match. This, nigg. He's mad you broke your leg. Niggas mad as hell you broke your leg. This nigga broke his fucking leg, man.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Niggas holding the whole train. Anything could get us mad. Like, anything will piss us off. That's why I'm happy. I got the life of the South, too. Because I'd be easy. I know how to control my emotions. A lot of people in New York,
Starting point is 00:50:52 they don't know how to control their emotions. Being around all those people make you go crazy, though. Yeah, of course. It's too much. Yeah, hell yeah. Getting bumped every day. It's a lot of energy. Eight, what was that?
Starting point is 00:51:05 Eight million. You living in a house with a neighbor. What you mean? Like, you can hear your next door neighbor. Hell no. You living in a house. Fuck, no. And you could hear, like, somebody could be banging on a wall.
Starting point is 00:51:19 You could just hit them, closing the microwave door. Oh, that doesn't fucking irritate the shit out of me. Like, it's no space. You see out here? My mom's got a house out here. I mean, yeah, y'all got neighbors, but I don't hear them. In New York, I hear my neighbors. To the point, like, if you arguing with your, nah, I, I, uh, uh, next door, you might be like,
Starting point is 00:51:45 all right, hold on, hold on, hold on. Keep it down before niggas call the cops on us. It's that. It gets serious out there. It's a different place. There's no privacy, so that's why we be screaming for privacy. We don't get it. You need some privacy.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Yeah, that's why we'd be like, move. Get the fuck out the way. Like, I deal with this shit. When I go home, I go to work on the way, like, it's too much. I know. I can tell that this got you wound up. Yeah, I'm thinking about it. Like, I need some space.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Damn. But you can make it in New York. You can make it anywhere. That's a fact. It's the concrete jungle where dreams is made of. I'm not. I love New York City, though, for real. Me too.
Starting point is 00:52:31 I just wanted the best place. Where else can you get a sandwich at that 4 in the morning? No, some snow crab. They will cook you a whole breakfast. Fresh, yeah. Shit, don't close. No, don't close. They don't.
Starting point is 00:52:44 You get anything you want. You get some jerk chicken at 3 in the morning. You get some snow crabs at 3 in the morning. Nah. From that little cart. Nah, you might. Y'all ain't that squirrel meat. That's a little squirrel meat.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Speak me. Yeah, that's that spitz. I would never eat that shit, but tell the truth. That's, it smells amazing. That exists? You know the little cars on the side of the road in New York? They put the little white sauce on. They look, halal meat.
Starting point is 00:53:09 That's squirrel. Where I can't. What the fuck they're getting that meat in already that size? Right, right. That meat already that size, K, Duh. Think about that. That sound crazy. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Come on, like this, come on, hold on, hold on, hold on. But the size is surgery. Hold on, hold on. Wait, what? Where are you? That's some other town? Your little rice. No, they got the little cart, right?
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Starting point is 00:58:18 Somebody in New York told you that? What? That is squirrel me? Come on, man. That looked like squirrel. That's the same size as a squirrel's body. And you said it smell good. It smelled good as well.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Because they cook it with the open little flame. I just had some squirrel. I just had some squirrel. I just had some squirrel. They put the little red sauce on it. They'll put it together, man. Yeah, they got them little sauces and shit. I don't want it, but it smells amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:47 So you never ate halal. when you came to New York. Hell no. I have. With the rice, with the meat. Fire, right? Yeah, I like you. I'm on squirrel or not?
Starting point is 00:58:55 Fire. I don't know. I ate it. You don't even wonder what's a swirl. I didn't even worry. When you hungry, it don't matter. You're going to eat that squirrel? Amen.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Because I'm from the South. What the fuck is a halalah? Y'all eat gator. What animal that come off of? You're a little gator, though. I'm just fucking around. You're a little gator. Nah.
Starting point is 00:59:15 You would tread it? No. But you would eat this mysterious shit. From a cart. Served with some... I mean, from time to time, yeah, why not? Cook next to some hot dogs. Why not?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Why not? On an open little grill. Why not? Fuck it. What about frog legs? I taste it before. You like? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:35 You would eat frog legs, but not some gator? No, listen to me. That gator is good. I was a kid and I was peer pressure and eating no motherfuckers. I'm grown now. You can't tell me. You can't tell me. Alligator tastes like.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Fish a chicken. Fish chicken. She tastes like a chicken, fuck the fish. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. But you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:57 My nickname, they call me Big Gator, so I can't eat. Big Gator? Yeah. So I can't. Who call you that? The people's. Oh. Big Gator.
Starting point is 01:00:07 The biggest. The biggest. Big Gator. Gator. Gator. I can't eat my cousins. All right. I feel you on that.
Starting point is 01:00:15 It makes more sense. Yeah. Makes sense Shout out to them people who sell their food in New York Especially the ones who ain't certified But you still not there make it work Still pushing that bass foot still getting that back in Still feeding
Starting point is 01:00:31 What's next for you man You've been really enjoying your run I want to be on a big screen I mean I've been on a big screen before But I would like to do movies You want to be the lead whatever whatever give me a good look
Starting point is 01:00:50 you should do a comedy you're very funny a lot of people tell me that man but then when they but see this the thing I know I'm funny well they say I'm funny but when the cameras come on
Starting point is 01:01:02 they be like be funny I don't know how to do that you need to be funny coach oh they got that yeah well come on let me see some TV something because you're funny too I do classes on Wednesday afternoons
Starting point is 01:01:14 work hell yeah damn I'm sorry you how to capitalize off this shit. Word, not for real, though. Yeah, for real. Because I don't be trying to be funny, though. That's the best part about it. I'll be dead-ass serious most of the time.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Like, to the problem, like, the fuck you laughing full. That's funny. That's a joke. Yes. I want class clown every year in my school elementary. Did they have one? They did, I think. Well, junior high school, high school.
Starting point is 01:01:46 class clown. That used to piss me off. Why? I said, y'all, that's a prestigious award. But I'm from New York, though. I too was class clown. We hold it in high regards, yeah. I'm like, y'all take me as a joke. I was never trying to be funny. So, like, for me, I'm like, I think shit funny. Like, I'm funny to y'all.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Like, you're not taking me serious. Then I'm small, I'm short. Come on now. You know I was in my feeling. You're a class clown. You got out. You had two, though. I had two, though. You had good grades I mean, I made it No, fuck no
Starting point is 01:02:21 She said I made it You better accept your fucking award For your humor Your academic She's not gonna do it Wait, hold on I got through there Hold on see this the thing
Starting point is 01:02:31 The only time I got good Only time I got flying colors Because I, you know I'm going to the next grade for sure When I wanted something Facts, I'm doing good at school Like the first report card Before Christmas, facts
Starting point is 01:02:45 What was your first? favorite subject. It used to be mad, but then it went to social studies. History, huh? I fucked with a little history. I love history. History is a low-down shit. All you're talking about is terrible people in
Starting point is 01:02:59 history. And they make them good. And then once you get grown and then you realize that they shouldn't have been teaching us about these terrible bad people. Not about this motherfucker. Nope. No. Bro, we spent two months talking about Gangus Khan. About who? Gangus Khan.
Starting point is 01:03:14 This was literally a worst human to ever live on the fucking earth. They do two days on Paul Robeson. Come on, bro. Christopher Columbus is a crook. Nigel, look at all this terrible-ass shit. These people that they wanted us to talk about, bro.
Starting point is 01:03:33 It ain't lying. Real live pillagers. But they told us Thomas Jefferson was a good person. That's crazy. They had plays where they had fucking little kids standing up and saying they're going to be Thomas Jefferson, that's great.
Starting point is 01:03:47 He was not a good person. This nigga had slaves and holes and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Thomas Jefferson! Yeah. He did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:58 And he has somebody that's teeth in the mouth. Yeah, that's George Washington. He had dead people's teeth in his mouth. Yeah. Yeah. We studied some terrible shit. Joy watched it. Joy watching the ass about that.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And the fucked up part about it, anybody who graduated prior to 2015 in this room, everything we learned in school, obsolete than a motherfucker. You know how much of graphing calculator costs right now? About $30. Brother, you had to get your parents' permission to use this. The shit was $200. $200. It's $200. Damn, fool.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Now think about this. Everybody who went to school in the early 2000. Think of how many hours we sat in that hot-ass computer lab with them computers buzzing, and the long-term effects that shit going to have on us. Them computers was buzzing for a reason. They had been on for 36 hours straight. Any one of them computers could explode at any moment. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I always think about the old computer lab. We were in like elementary school, though. When the screen was like yellow and green, where I know that shit going to give us some kind of fucked up eye disease and something. My bad. I just have to talk to the people who witnessed this motherfucker too. No, you're good.
Starting point is 01:05:33 That's static going to definitely do something to somebody. That static on TV, just that little whatever channel. I don't know wherever. That first iPhone going to give everybody a cauliflower with ill when we turn 67. Definitely. Motherfucking ear going to be this big. A new phenomenon iPhone ear.
Starting point is 01:05:50 What do you think blowing in that cartridge? We got micro particles in our immune system right now. Definitely. Yeah. When they look at us, they're going to be like, you've got the lungs of a separate. to you old man. Did you ever smoke?
Starting point is 01:06:06 No. Lower Nintendo. Hell yeah. So. Ain't shit we can do. You got nanoparticles in your blood right now. Oh, shit. Damn.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Well, they got me. I definitely did it. But I think we're going to be all right, though, because when we were kids, We were part of this experimental program. I'm sure most of the people in here were part of the program. We all took Flintstone vitamins. We Flintstone kids.
Starting point is 01:06:46 We were part of the program. We was 10 million strong and growing, man. And growing. We were Flintstone kids. 10 million strong. And growing. Niggins. Wow, that's good.
Starting point is 01:07:04 It's good shit. We don't know what we took, nigga. We took a series of potassium and iron sulfates. Yo. Some of us are going to turn in the real-life X-Men fucking with them Flintstone vitamins, man. That's crazy. That's crazy that they did that. They were really just getting us used to taking pills.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Then they came out with ecstasy. And what the fucking ecstasy? What the ecstasy looked like? Yeah. Thank you. All this shit tied in together. Why do you think everybody got addicted to the code ink? When we was kids, what they used to give us, the big barter.
Starting point is 01:07:43 You already had it in. It's right there. When you got sick, sick and you had to go get the shit from the doctor? Come on, bro. You remember that shit? Stayed at your whole childhood and never expired. Niggins started drinking it with some sprang and putting some ice in it. They were like, stop making that shit.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Nick, we've been addicted to us since we were little. The fuck. Not yet. Come on, bro. Diamond tap. That shit had real medicine, robentussing. Come on, Mary. That purple shit was delicious.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Still, till you're the day, that's some of the best shit you ever put in your body. Yeah, I'll tap. Sneak and six. I know you get a lot of feature requests. What's the process to get? you get a feature. Me and J-O-N working on our album. What's up? I'm just trying to see. I told you, they cut the food stamps off. So we're just trying to ask you now and then give us some time to get the money together.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Just give us some time to get the money together. We ain't saying like right now we're working on it, but we're going to get it, get the money up so we can. We're going to do the splits. I'm here. I'm here for y'all. I'm here for the gods, okay. All right, baby. Okay. We're going to need you on one of our gangsters on and we want you doing push up. You got to do the push-ups. You got to do the push-ups. Definitely. Nice.
Starting point is 01:09:08 You're trying to make me hockey in here. Now, what's your, what you've been listening to recently? R&B. Like what kind of R&B? Old, new. All types, old, new. I was just talking the case, I liked that old R&B where niggas of hate a little bit,
Starting point is 01:09:24 where they sprinkle a little hate on your boyfriend. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one. You like the dirty Macon. Dirty Macin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell L. L. Cujay was good at that. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:33 That's the one. He was a dirty man. He told the woman, her boyfriend drank too much and smoked too many blunts. That's some hating as shit. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Hey, you put your blood down. Bro, Drew Hill said, I could be your boyfriend
Starting point is 01:09:50 because he's always lying. Mm-hmm, mm. It might sound like I'm hating, but girl, I'm just relaying. Come on. That's a hate-n-ass song. It's a hate-n-ass name. What wrong said on the first line
Starting point is 01:10:03 of this shit, I belong to you. Tell me what's wrong with your boyfriend. Damn. He holds the key to your heart, baby, but he can't love you like I love you. This nigga told this girl her own
Starting point is 01:10:17 boyfriend don't love her more than he do. And he with her. This lady never said she was unhappy or nothing. Carl Thomas. got mad in his video because he rode past this woman
Starting point is 01:10:32 house and saw her with her family. Her family. And I wish I never met her at all. Niggins, she was cheating that weekend. She didn't tell you to fall in love. Damn. Real shit? When R&B,
Starting point is 01:10:54 when they left something in the ghetto shit in but they didn't say it. Jodice it came straight out, opening line. So you having my baby. He didn't introduce this woman to nobody. First album, she pregnant. Damn. That's some good pushy, man.
Starting point is 01:11:11 And that song was down in the album, so them first four songs got her pregnant. What was this song that got on the album? That was like four, five, or six. Damn, he got down quick. Four five in. Got to bring a look. They're hating as R&B?
Starting point is 01:11:33 Come on. Yeah, you really-old. Or when a nigga that fucked all the way up. Yeah. The yearning. In the 80s, they were begging. Nineties, they started doing a little hating. I like when he was begging.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Begging. You could beg a lot of different ways. Donnell Joan hit her with the sneak begging. It's the quarter past three, girl. It's going to be. It's going to be. Shuddy got a house on me. We've been talking since two, girl, what you're going to do?
Starting point is 01:12:04 I'll be chilling that damn to see what. He's been talking for an hour. Come on, what's not? What's for? Regardless if the answer yes or no, still beg. Come on, man. Bring that back. Just back.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Come on. Yeah, it ain't been to R&B like. Yeah, man. I think the real R&B for an indie about about 2000. The Neo and Dream came with something, but to think about 2000, for real. Carl Thomas and all of them. Jaim. Yeah, Jahim. Yeah, Jahim did.
Starting point is 01:12:43 That nigger made a song call, you could have anything. And he's so genius. All he did in the song was tell the woman what he didn't have. Yeah. I can't get you shit. You just got the pick from the shit I already got. So that's why he said, I'm a bed at home today. But baby, it's yours, okay?
Starting point is 01:13:13 I'll give you my last dime. Spend all my time. He said he was going to make it home. He's going to make it home tonight. Just in case I don't make it home tonight. He said, oh, he did say. He said, can I have a little bit more before I leave? Just in case I don't make it home.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Oh, that's what he said, huh? Come on, man. Yeah. Damn, he made shit. Jha, damn, Jada, Jha, Jha. And then I'm doing an R&B project? Hell yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:13:47 Yes. Okay. Music like that for me, I make that in like 10 minutes, 15. Some R&B? Hell yeah, what? You get Tender? I'm running through the verses like. So you can get gangster and Tender.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yeah. That's dope. What's the soft side like? When you're not doing push-ups and shit, what you get to? Cuddling. For real? After you didn't put down the big-ass Mac 11? Yeah, right on the nightstand.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Right on the night stand. I ain't know you got a time. I had a long night, baby. Do something to make me feel good. She go from DMX to Alicia Keeney. Real fast on your head. Hit them with the hard voice, too. Nah, no, that's, I just,
Starting point is 01:14:35 nah, I can't show y'all's a voice. I can't do that for y'all, man. Why not? Nah, nah, nah, nah. Get a little bit, get a little bit. I can't. All right, sir. You can come on here and play tough all you want to.
Starting point is 01:14:50 No, I'm not going to play tough all day, son. Big Gator. Yeah. Gator, gator, gator. That's hard. I think. Who do you think the hardest R&B guy? Close.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Our killer. It's fucked up. But for the second argument, you got to separate his accomplishments from the shit he did. For sure. Not justifying the shit that he did. No, no. But his accomplishments is separate. Before we knew he was a bad person.
Starting point is 01:15:21 We always knew. We didn't always know until the tape came up. Up until we had confirmation. Well, we had confirmation he was a bad person. We had heard that he was a bad person. Then everybody seen he was a bad person. Yeah. But then he knew that we knew he was a bad person,
Starting point is 01:15:36 so he gave us the best art. For real. Now, it's going to be hard for me because this music is tied to so many memories throughout this young adult period of my life. It was the go-to. It was like... Precisely.
Starting point is 01:15:52 It'd be the same as if they told your granddad of James Brown wasn't shit. He can't, he can't, he won't be able to live that, you won't be able to, he won't be able to get with that. But since we're not allowed to have him. Baby face. Baby face. Shit, but my favorite group of all times is Jodice.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Like, R&B group is Jodice. See, Jodice made way for, like, the Jagged Edge and the 112s and all them niggas who, like, Jodicey was, like, that new, shit type for for me anyway my favorite group is silk silk see that's what I'm saying like soap jose it was like the thugged-out version silk was like a softer version yeah yeah jodesy was thugged out though these niggins was smoking blunts and singing that you know how hard that is on your voice they was they were smoking big this back before it was sick rillows motherfuckers was smoking big ass fat-ass blunt
Starting point is 01:16:56 It was just blunts. Judge masters and shit, that was this long. And the weed was real harsh. And these niggas was committed to it. Young niggas drinking big bottles of Hennessy. Going on stage, performing, taking this shirt off, making your auntie meet them back at the embassy suites and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:17:14 This back when hotels had real keys with a little dangly thing on the bottom. Big plastic cluster. Yeah. Hotels had keys. Hotels had keys. All of them. It wasn't all of them.
Starting point is 01:17:25 over here like yeah they had a little plaque on it yeah yeah and jodesa would beat up other r&B singers for real yeah like beat them up fight them yeah probably was the first one doing that beating up other rmb singers yeah that's crazy no man ain't they from low carolina james brown and joe tex had a shootout at the club oh yeah yeah muddy waters had a few shootouts, you can watch Cadillac Records, Little Walter and all that. Little Walter, yeah. Niggins been shooting up the club since the 1930s. They tried to act like it ain't happened either.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Exactly. It was the 20s. The 20s, where the gangster shit jumped off. You know every... Yeah? I'm a wellspring of useless knowledge. This is the type of shit I do. Jane Brown, Joe Tech, fight a woman. Yeah. But Jotech started
Starting point is 01:18:23 What made James Brown really set it off was Joe Tex stole his signature move with the cape. I thought James Brown stole that from Joe Tech. See, that's where the story getting murky at. It just so happened that, goddamn, they was both doing it at the same time. James ain't liked that shit. Ran up on his nigga at the club with a shotgun, shot the club up. They say he paid for the damages. He did, but he still shot that bitch up.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Say he left, left his people there. Kind of straightened up. I don't know why they act like rap is new. It's just rap is not new. You listen to Muddy Waters, that's rap. This thing got this song called I'm Ready. The whole song is about just going to the club to get drunk and hire and start some shit.
Starting point is 01:19:12 It's kind of like the knuck if you buck of the 60s. Hmm. Anyway, Lola Brooke. It's your first time coming through here. Yeah. And I like when people to stop through here, we always give them some gifts. I got a gift.
Starting point is 01:19:33 It's not a dog. I know you the same size. I was going to say, is that a turkey dog? It's the same size as this box, but it's not a dog. At least I could lift it. Yeah. Y'all. It's heavy.
Starting point is 01:19:50 We got you something. What y'all got me? Can you open it? Yeah. You need a knife? Oh, y'all got me flea? Yeah. Oh, you got me flying in for sure.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Oh, no. This is an extra small? Yeah. You see it. Oh, it's an extra small. Oh, y'all fucking with me. Y'all rock with me, so. Let me open it up, though. I'm moving my shit up, right?
Starting point is 01:20:14 It's sweats. We want you to be country. Right. And get brick in New York. You might need to throw on a hoodie and run downstairs. Nice. I'm not going to front, but I'm really a sweatsuit mommy, though. For real?
Starting point is 01:20:28 Hell good. I'm just saying you might have to run downstairs and lock the door or something, and, you know, you need to throw on some sweats or early morning flight. I'm going to sit, yo, this feels like Christmas. It is Christmas. It is Christmas. And we got you some socks, too, so your feet don't get cold. Yeah, they got me some socks, y'all. yo there's some good quality
Starting point is 01:20:52 oh y'all not cheap we're not cheap we want to let you know that we really appreciate your artistry I love y'all man keep being a great vibrant person let them know where they can find you and follow you and catch up with everything you got going on
Starting point is 01:21:07 catch up with me on Instagram y'all lola dot brooks you want to follow me on Twitter or X whatever Lola Brooks 718 and make sure y'all go stream my music my project coming out November the 14th call I I bet, and we outside. What's up with you?
Starting point is 01:21:23 Absolutely. What she said. Stream the music. We're going to get you in the movie, too. Since you want to be in the comedy movie, when we do our movie, we're calling you. This block. Even though we know you're from New York,
Starting point is 01:21:38 you still got to represent 85 South because you came on here. Oh, come on here. And now we've got to put you on the Wall of Fame. Yes. Absolutely. We really appreciate you stopping through here. 85 South Lolo.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Brooke, we out this big. Oh, oh. No, this is good. This is a good. Uh-huh. Yeah. That's actually my favorite. Let's take a picture, dude.
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Starting point is 01:22:45 Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? Who catfishes a city? Is it even safe to snort human remains? Is that the plot of Footloose? I'm comedian Rory Scoville, and I'm here to tell you, Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. It's called Crimeless, a true crime. comedy podcast. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop.
Starting point is 01:23:20 His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past, one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I said, it was y'all 22 times.
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