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Episode Date: May 26, 2023On this episode of the 85 South Show, Karlous & Chris Sett It Off Jones were joined by comedy legend Michael Colyar! Colyar discussed overcoming his drug addiction, his comedic start, knowing when... you've found the right woman and so much more. Check out his podcast "Michael Talks To Errbody!": https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-michael-talks-to-errbody-104992742/ || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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today we're gonna keep that shit going
We're on a mean street
I'm certain what my flight time is.
We're gonna let him find his flight time.
Yeah.
But while he does that,
I would get into a portion of the greatness
that this man has already sprinkled
not only in the comedy world,
but in the entertainment world.
Talk to him.
I'm talking about one of the most
hilarious comedians to ever do this shit.
Yes.
You're great.
I'm talking, I will hands down say my comedic opinion,
one of the best joke tellers.
Nobody can tell a joke better.
Well, then Michael Cawyer.
Tell the truth, shame, the devil.
That's what I always say.
I'm talking about he's done it all
from hosting a Showtime at the Apollo type shit,
the deaf comedy jams, and shit, star search.
His reputation speaks for itself,
and me and him had a very long detail conversation
about the shit that he did.
out on Venice Beach.
Mm.
Venice Beach, California?
Is there any other place?
Didn't know.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
Murdofich got some movie.
This is not no episode.
There's not no interview.
This is a master class.
Come on somebody.
We get to actually talk to somebody who was right there.
And we're going to get some history.
We're going to get some labs.
And I know for sure we're definitely going to get some game.
I already told you his real name, but he'll tell you,
if I don't call him,
Mike, I'll always go call.
My nephew, Matt.
Show boat.
The boat is in the building.
I told you, Crackers for everybody.
Let's go.
Set it all.
Don't play with the boat's money.
That's all I can say.
I just have to ask this lady one thing.
I don't know what time my flight is and I'm at the interview.
Call me back, text it.
You know it real.
We do put the cord in that phone.
What time is it?
What time is it?
No, I said, what time is my flight, baby?
Five.
Okay, we're good.
See in a minute, we're gonna live, bye.
It's at 10 is my flight, so I'm good.
You're 10 minutes away, shoot, we're cooking with oil.
Hey.
So check this out.
This is what I need you to do
because nobody does that shit like you.
I want you to pick up the second hand
and give them the rest of the intro.
By me?
Yes, so you do that shit, so well.
All right, well, famous, we're renowned,
often talked about alleged comedian,
gentleman and a scholar, intellectual giant,
the pool of mental midgets and a connoisseur,
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Thank you, Ken.
Thank you.
Hold on before I shake your head.
Oh, King.
Thank you, man.
I'm honored to you.
You brought me in here, brother.
Straight up.
Talk about funny.
You know, one of the best he's ever done is you, brother.
And you're young, young.
Already a legend.
You're already a legend.
You're a young legend.
The way you deliver it.
You and your team, brother.
All three of y'all be killing.
I don't know you much.
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but I wouldn't really recognize you if you stood up in my soup.
But if they told me, you.
You are all right, you are.
No, he's a very all right, dude.
Yeah.
Fucking guy, now.
First of all, it's an honor and the privilege
to have you stop buying graces.
Brother, thank you.
I'm honored to be here.
I've been looking forward to coming here for a while,
so this is really good.
So just how you, just how you know that we've been waiting on you,
bro, I got the, I'm starting off with the gifts.
I used to make, you make them wait to the end.
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I want you to have your shit at me.
Yeah, I got the squeaky chickens.
Amen.
You brought the chicken.
Man.
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Sit right there.
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You know, free shit is better than regular.
She's like free food if that than regular food.
I don't even put no seasoning in that.
I eat it quick for somebody to change their mind.
You know, so this is beautiful.
Thank you.
I can't wait to wear it too.
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We're going to do the photo shooting whole thing.
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Oh, man, I wish y'all was here to see this whole studio.
It ain't no joke.
I can put it right there.
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Yeah, that's close now.
It usually be the EA bill.
What was that, E or A?
That's E.
That's okay.
If they put an E on the check, I still take it.
Get me a goddamn A, nah.
E is good, he spends.
Tell us, let's get right into it.
How does this journey start?
Man, you know, it's so, it's so interesting.
I started by being an actor in high school,
and I really wanted to be an actor, so I got in all the plays.
In high school, right?
Moulton Park High School.
Southside.
Chicago, man.
Come on y'all.
I'm front of Project.
Robert Telle on 4352 South State popping that on that.
Right on that.
Make sure you got on the wallet.
Hold up, hold up.
Yeah, sir, make sure your wallet safe.
Before we go, you know, they destroyed all the black communities.
So for you to come from his, like,
oh, they snatched my project.
Give me a few stories after Robert Taylor home.
But I didn't know story about Robert Taylor.
First of all, there was an experiment, first of all,
they built projects.
Whoa.
They built these projects to contain us.
Right.
Whoa, that's what the world.
If you notice, all projects are surrounded by freeways.
Exactly.
Because of the way to concentrate all the black people
in one area, if some shit break out,
they can roll tanks down the freeway.
So they did test in like either the 50s or 60s
called the rat test.
And they actually took crates of rats
and stacked them up and just left them alone.
And they watched it over time, they fed them,
gave them water, but over time they killed each other off.
So the folks who designed that system
already knew how the projects were gonna be.
We put people on top of each other.
The main thing is they kept us away from the so-called them.
You know what I'm saying?
So projects would build like that.
I heard they made the first one in Atlanta.
That's what I heard.
Something like that.
I don't know about Chicago's projects.
And what I do know is they always named them
after black historical figures.
I grew up in Robert Taylor.
Robert Teller was the first black architect, brother.
He went to Tuskegee.
He worked on the car, under George Washington Coffee.
I'm from Alabama.
I don't understand.
Oh, no, he was a cold, cold brother,
a hell of an architect.
I'd be well.
All these people were really, really great superheroes
in history.
But they put the name on it.
But the culture.
didn't really go with the building.
They just put that on there and then ran it
till it ran itself into the ground.
So I moved in there in 62,
but I moved in 63.
When we moved into the projects,
Robert Tellerhomes weren't even projects yet,
brother, they were just high-rise apartments.
Oh, they were just regular place
and it wasn't called project.
We was actually moving on up.
No Section 8.
No, no Section 8 yet.
Okay.
And we were just moving into the apartments,
man, and I was living before then
in what they called a three-story walk-up
on the East South Chicago.
And it was like, seven of us living in a one room room.
So it was like, I was living in one room room and rooming
with a room.
It was so many of us in that spot.
But you don't know you broke.
When everybody around, you broke.
As long as we got love.
So we did that.
We had the family, four big brothers, my mom and dad.
And we lived there.
So I was in the project till 68.
Then we moved out to Morgan Park, which they now go.
Wow.
Hundreds of hundreds, you know.
So I get to Morgan Park.
I wanted to act, I started getting every play,
you know, and then I started doing comedy.
Yeah.
And because I was acting, but I was starving to death.
You know, you'll starve.
75% of actors don't make a living, acting.
They got to do some other shit.
They're waiting tables or doing something else.
I don't mind.
And you in Chicago now?
No, I'm not in Chicago no more.
I'm there all the time.
I go back and forth.
My home is always there.
You need to always be from where you come from.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm always going back.
I always go to my community.
I always get back and go to the schools.
I talk to people.
help my school get a light and sound package,
because that's the first place I ever did theater,
guys in the house.
That's the first time I ever did theater.
And now they refurbished the seats and the floors,
but the sound system, the light is bad.
So I'm gonna do a benefit and raise money
to get them lights and sound in Morgan Park.
So when I got out, man, out of school and stuff,
I was acting, I wasn't making money.
So my friends said, why don't you try comedy?
And I started that, and started doing street performance
in Chicago.
And people will walk right up to me, white folk,
and have me money.
And I mean, you're thinking, you're talking 70,
now 73 and 74, they were just paying me heads.
I ain't a little behind my back, I have to take shit.
All I do is tell jokes, I liked it, you know?
And so I became in 75, probably one of the best street performers,
and I would do comedy.
And I was making a killing, but then Winter came,
and what a motherfucker's trying to hit no joke in December?
That's street, yeah, St Street.
It's got.
So I packed it for everything to fit in my car.
At the time I had a 1967 pew.
to save her.
That's a great car.
It's a fucking awesome car.
I drove it all the way across the country.
Now, car period.
You ain't ride a CTA?
I'm talking about that heat that burn your nose head with that.
Yeah, that's a bad motherfucker.
And I was flashed it.
And it got me here.
It got me in Venice Beach, California,
where I ended up on comedy.
I got there and showed them how to do comments,
how to make money.
When I got there, all these people was there,
but they weren't making money.
They got to go out there.
He just died to my friend.
Perry Hernandez.
He called himself, Uber, Uber.
He would jump in glass.
He had a pile of glass.
And he was standing in a chair,
jumping the glass barefoot,
then take his shirt off, lay in the glass.
One lady was standing on his chest.
A man was standing on his thighs.
He'd smoke a cigarette.
And he'd get up, he did have a scratch.
He'd do like six, seven shows a day.
He made $40.
I said, nigga, you're doing this wrong.
You're supposed to get paid for real.
So I showed all the people along there
how to get their money.
So I would do five one-hour shows
every Saturday and Sunday for nine years.
is from 86 to 95, you know, and I was killing it.
I'd leave with a suitcase full of money.
So it was really great, but that's how I get to get in
because everybody comes to Venice Beach.
Venice Beach is a second most popular destination
in California, second only to Disney.
So everybody comes to Venice.
Everybody comes to Venice, when they got guests,
they bring them out to Venice, because out there you could
have a cheap date.
For $20, you can have a good time on the beach.
It's some beautiful shit.
And don't let them fuck around and have that fair shit going on.
What was where?
That fair shit.
The carnival.
The little shit they have.
Not the Harry Christian one.
Like the hair.
They bring all kinds of functions.
So it was just really cool to do it.
But being out there, everybody comes to the beach,
so all the directors, producers would see me performing and invite me to audition for stuff.
And the first one was Robert Townsend, who I already knew, and he got me,
I did Hollywood shuffle with him, which was the first movie, but I still on Venice.
But it was Bernie Mac, man.
Bernie Mac, let me say something about Bernie Mac.
Bernie Mac was a black man.
Yeah.
See, black men are rare.
Niggas?
Niggas everywhere.
You can open your gloves and walk with your car and four niggas fall out.
But black men, men who have integrity for their community, for their family, for their
queen, for their God, rare indeed.
Burning Matt, like he didn't go out with us, man.
When we got through working, he went back to the room, man, got him some soul food, man,
got him some red beans and rice and laid up on the phone with his wife.
He wasn't in the, I wasn't all out in the street doing all that shit.
He was a black man doing his shit, and he got me on that.
and he got me on Def Jam.
I didn't even know Def Jam was coming.
And he made them put me on a show.
I still on Venice.
Went to kill that motherfuckers, man.
That shit.
What year we're talking about now, Mike,
with the Def Jam now?
What year we're talking about?
Is that 92 one?
No, I'm thinking of 80.
No, I did first year of it.
Yeah, yeah.
It comes in that far.
No, no, no.
I'm talking, I'm talking 88.
It wasn't no 90s shit.
There wasn't no 90s.
No, no.
He talking before it was a tour.
Oh, okay.
Okay, okay, okay.
I mean, when that first started,
I mean, I'm talking, it was real early.
I just got the, okay, so I just got to the beach.
That was 86.
So we did it probably 87 or 88.
And I ended up doing six seasons of that
and hosting one.
But Bernie was always just a down, brother.
Like he wouldn't step on nobody,
which I can't say for a lot of motherfuckers.
He wouldn't step on you to get something,
$5 more, more airtime.
He ain't doing that shit, man.
Real comedian.
No, he was a real comedian,
and he was a real man.
And so I just always salute that,
brother and his family, I would love to interview his wife and Ronald Harrison.
I would just love to have both in them.
They both in Chicago, too.
And talk about them legends.
Well, Bernie from Chicago, I don't know what Robin's original place.
I know he passed that, but I thought he might have been for the Chicago, too.
Yeah, my dad knew him.
I heard.
Whoa, it was good.
Robin was good.
Robin wasn't skin.
You know, he was ready.
He's ordinary.
He just come out.
He was like that uncle.
Everybody loved is in the family.
You don't know what he's going to say.
You work with him a lot.
I didn't work with him very much at all.
Actually, truth is, we sort of battled.
You know, when Elton started, I mean,
when the play started, when comedy act theater started,
we all started the same day together.
You're Robert Harris.
Yeah, me, Robin Harris, both of the,
Damon Wands, Kiena Wands, Rusty Konda,
and Marie Johnson.
You, do you see the movie, I'm gonna get you sucker?
Hell, yeah, we say it.
The mother went around with one leg,
the lady with one leg.
She did a lot of words.
She's a cold sister.
And she was for a while was vice president of SAG.
She's a co-sussist, but it was like eight of us.
In fact, when we did the first show,
it was two blocks from the original spot.
African brother ran it, but he took all the money.
So about a second week, we walked to the Comedy Act Theater.
And they ended up staying at the Comedy Act theater.
But the thing is, well, me and him both were like top dogs
and shit, you know?
Yeah.
He was an urban cat around there, everybody knew him.
But I was killing motherfuckers on Venice Beach.
Yeah, naturally funny.
I was a head open, right?
So both us would show up and we were both battling
to see who would be the MC,
because they hadn't solidified who's gonna be the regular MC yet.
And then me and him were getting to arguments
over jokes, who owned the jokes.
All right.
But it was somebody else shit that we were both stealing.
You know, so I would be doing a red fox joke.
Like a stock joke.
And he, yeah, stock joke.
He said, how you doing my shit?
I ain't your shit.
That's a red fox shit now.
You can take you back.
Although, I don't think an old joke should die.
Just cause the motherfucker that wrote it.
No, I think we're gonna keep jokes a lot.
So if you go, oh, I might use your shit.
Oh, yeah.
Old jokes, the old joke.
The old joke.
You need that, man.
I like this thing, this too.
That's when I watch y'all come up in, man.
Two hillbillies walking across the field.
And one of them said, hey, I got to take a dump.
And he said, why are you telling me?
He said, cause I ain't got no place to go.
He said, fool, he's in the forest.
Why don't you go behind one of the big old trees?
So I got to go behind a tree.
He gets through doing this business.
He yell out, hey, well, him for the white myself,
where there ain't no big leaves.
So nothing around his partner say, just use a dollar.
So he'd come back out five minutes later, shit all in his hands.
Shit, point his fingers, shit on his nails.
His partner said, damn, that's nasty.
He said, oh, this ain't shit.
You should see the two quarters and the five dimes.
That's all.
He said, use a dollar.
I didn't mean to make math problem out of it.
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So jokes a baby, but I did is I came to Venice and started doing it.
I made money.
I made money really quick and scared me how much.
But I didn't start making money until an old white homeless dude came up and talked to me.
I was just making coins and shit.
And this white dude came to me and he said, you know, they call black people colored.
But it's really the white people.
You know, I mean, black people, when they're born, they're like a brown.
They might get a darker brown.
When they die, they brown.
But white folks, they pink when they born, they red, when they're white.
mad, they blue, and they're cold, they die.
There's your colored people.
So I would build this whole routine
about colored people and racism
and make a story about the fact is,
is racism is a fucking joke, man.
Like, I hate racism so much,
I wouldn't even do a racist joke.
Okay, I'm just do one.
Okay, a white man, a black man,
Athesia, and a Hispanic.
Come on top of this tall mountain.
I'll kill majoro,
my mom, whatever.
So the Hispanic said,
For my people.
Jumped off the mountain.
Asians say this for my people.
Jumped off the mountain.
Black dudes say this for my people.
Grab the white dude.
Too that motherfucker.
Off the mountain and white folks, when they tell it,
just flip it.
If you just flip it, you can tell that joke.
So jokes become for me in equity.
You know, and by doing on Venice Beach,
God showed me that I don't have to work for the people.
So when I was there battling with Robin about whose night is it,
who's going to be the MC, I walked away from it.
Because me and them actually was going to battle.
I wouldn't got gloves.
and shit. I said, come on, let's go to the back
because we was about to tussle and shit.
And Michael Williams were putting together, broke that up.
So we never was like really friends.
I mean, we was cordial to each other.
And then after he became a star,
we would see each other and speak and stuff.
I hate it that we never had a friendship.
You know what I'm saying?
But you can't deny who he is.
And we were.
Just truly a great comedian.
Had a lot of character.
I'm style, you know.
And he wasn't a shitty person.
He wasn't a backstab and tried to fuck people over something.
He was just a straightforward dude who wanted to do his work
and be part of this big thing.
He wasn't been the biggest fucking comic in the world.
He had died.
Oh, you couldn't touch it.
I heard he was gonna be doing.
Loves told me something about him,
about the death gym or something like that by Robert Harris.
Death gym was built for Robin Harris.
You knew that, right?
Yeah.
That's why I was created.
They created that show for him.
And then he died right before it started,
so they gave it to his partner, Martin Lawrence,
the closest cat to him.
Okay.
He inherited that role, Martin.
So Martin should be sending that boy's family, little chicks and shit.
You know what comes.
That put him on, you know, and a lot of times, people understand.
A lot of times it's not about the talent.
It's about the access.
You know what I'm saying?
Can you get in a place?
You know, it's a lot of talent people can't get in because they don't know the right people.
Everything's about communications and relationships.
If you know the right people, the way you talk to them.
And if they know you.
Yeah, and if they know you and if they care about you,
that's the relationship part of it.
Because people like to work with people who they like.
They like to work with friends, they like to work with relatives, people they can trust.
You know, so that, if they, if the relationship is cool, you can go everywhere.
If your relationship is bad, you ain't getting nowhere.
You can see talented motherfuckers who should be a lot further, like me.
But if you don't have, you're talking the one right now.
Who's what?
There you are.
Then you see some motherfuckers, I ain't gonna say no names, that ain't shit.
And they got a series, but they knew the right person, they knew how to finesse it.
You know, communication and relationships, I cannot beat that until I hear.
enough how you talk to people and what the relationship is.
I think you should stop by just being good to everybody.
Yeah.
If you can stop it just, even if you, the badest motherfuck around,
that don't mean you get to have an attitude about it.
You still got to be okay, because God gave you that shit.
They ain't nothing with the Lord.
Just like God gave everybody what they got.
You got it from the same master idea, come to fuck down.
They ain't nothing but the Lord.
I hear you right there, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just in the same time.
No, you're talking about God.
But you know, I don't think God got trouble.
We're the guys.
I think it's the Bulgarian.
profanity because I like profanity I don't like forget about motherfuckers sucking my
dick fuck y'all that's hilarious to me but I was gonna show the other day and the
motherfuck gonna come out talking about eating ass you know we're in the club we're
talking about eating ass and then we got motherfucking food on the table that's I
will never eat ass again and no no too salty too salty
make your feet fat man is very good so you're access to the line so you're access to the line
of it man if you do your work but one thing is a lot of times people try to stop you in this game too
so that's when it comes down to doing your work if you do your work and keep your head down
don't start shit with people you still will be able to do whatever you want to do eventually especially
if you keep god first anybody stop you if it's one plus god you know that's what my favorite
search in the bible is uh david and goliath because david was just a little big dude and goliath
with a big nasty, motherfucker.
You know, bad teeth, breathstain, ugly, motherfucker.
And he wasn't just killing.
He was raping and pillaging.
I don't even know, fuck pillaging either,
but I think it's terrible.
That's when you just start showing your ass.
You're doing shit that don't got to be done.
You're knocking over shit.
Then you don't even knife-needed-knows and slapping bitches.
Grabbing pussies.
He was a pillaging motherfucker.
Cussing motherfuckers out.
Pussies.
Definitely.
Trump would have loved him.
Anyway, David wouldn't happen.
That's when you steal and you.
leave shit and let them know you stole it.
Were you pillaging?
That's like you just grab some shit and you're not even
walk out and it's still hanging at the pot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's like when I was doing crack.
Say what?
I was going to crack and the girl I was smoke up all my dope
and then help me look for it, man.
Where that goddamn rock, baby?
I help you look, eyes all funny and walking fast
and fucking going nowhere.
Anyway, I'm trying, did we get to that topic already?
You did it.
You switched it out.
You know what?
Are we in that bit?
Hey man, welcome back to the 85-side show.
We set it on.
We set it on.
We go to the show.
This next portion of the show is dedicated.
To the chicken.
Yeah, exactly.
We're saving lives out here.
We are saving.
Humor saves lives.
Humor does.
Humor is healing, brother.
If you can laugh through a thing, you can get through a thing.
So I started doing Venice Beach and back doing Venice,
everybody would show up.
Directors from other shows, say, me,
you gotta come do my show.
Or they say, come audition for a show.
So I started getting a work from that,
and it just made me a little bit more visible.
But it was the improv that brought me in.
So Bud Freeman, who owned the improv, saw me on Vince Beach.
You know, and he was like, I want to be part of the family.
And it just made a difference.
Once again, we're talking about access.
And it's Hollywood now.
This Hollywood.
Yeah, it's Hollywood.
I was living in Venice, but Hollywood is where the improv is.
Like the two most important comedy clubs,
probably in America are in LA.
And that's the Improv in a Comedy Store.
Laugh factor is pretty important, too.
But comedy's doing improv with the top dogs,
and so everybody wanted to get in those, you know?
And he just walked up to me on the beach
and said, dude, you got to be part of the family.
Back then, they had a show on TV called Evenings at the Improv.
Evening that Improv.
Seven of them, you know, so it was just cool.
Yeah, that big-ass suit.
That suit was big as hell.
I think it was my first.
I think it was my first.
Yeah, come on, man.
Before you got Taylor made.
We got a suit with Custom Tazes.
I thought it was pretty fabulous.
A lot of fabric was on that, though.
I took off a lot.
You got flat in the middle.
In the middle.
You got flat in the middle.
You got flat in the middle.
But all of this is such a blessing and it's such a,
it's really such a blessing to do what we do.
To be able to talk shit and get paid for it.
God damn.
That's a nice car.
That's a bad one of your car.
Yeah, that's a nice car.
I asked them not to be revving my shit up while I'm in your talking,
but they get carried.
the way they smoke a fat one and then it's uh okay and y'all have to not smoke because i don't smoke
please you know they're not but i was trying to be so respectful oh no no no i i ain't allowed to smoke it
but i can smell it i'm here you're sure you know i'm like barak i'm not going hell just come on with
we just smoke it so the kids don't find it so so so so one thing at the other gets me out there
get to do the shows um don't worry about noise don't where if that i'm just trying to see if that's your car they'll be
That's my shit.
That's something.
Everybody in here looking at me, that sounds like some of my friends.
That sounds familiar.
Oh, no.
That's how that do sound like some of my shit.
Did you hit the button and see your shit, though?
I mean, that's too close for it.
Well, it's too long, too.
Because they're stealing your shit.
They're not stealing.
It is.
Oh.
They might be delivering something.
Oh, no shit.
Never mind that.
Okay.
When they deliver my Lamborghini,
and when I asked me to do it quietly.
Now they're gone.
I got some shit sound like that.
You got some shit like that?
Mike, hold on.
My folks would sound like this.
There's some of that shit.
Oh, somebody got in and having fun.
I'm so honest, you know, brother.
And yeah, yeah, the story is good.
The story's good.
I love to tell them the story.
I tell you I was out there on that beach.
And should we wait for the noise to stop?
I don't even think they got shit to do with them.
I think they're doing that shit
because they know we tape it.
It stopped.
He went out there.
Shut the fuck up.
Well, I heard, blah, pat.
And then it got quiet.
So, no, never did that.
That is not what happened.
That's not what happened.
Okay, so that got me on the beach.
I got me on the beach.
You got to do the comedy.
That took me to movies and little TV shows and stuff.
And basically, I just grind.
do my shit and I keep trying to be as creative as I can.
I keep trying out to hurt other people and doing it.
But I do jokes and routines.
I talk about my life and my addiction is something
I talk about everywhere.
People to know they get out, you know what I'm saying?
Because I did crack for 23 years.
As of Mark, you have pure sobriety.
Hey, man, thank you.
That's real talk right here, Mike.
Say that again, say that again for the camera.
I'll applaud the fact that I used to get fucked up.
Let me taste that.
No, I was a hard to ask, dude.
I couldn't understand how to fuck,
we're gonna stop getting high,
and it's still dope on this plate,
empty that razor blade.
No, ain't no.
And I chopped the motherfucking rocks,
I'm gonna get them in the stem.
Clean the stem, residue, nigger.
I'd kill for residue.
Anyway, I can make a crack pipe out of anything,
piece of glass, soda pop can,
10 packs, car antenna.
If you came out your house in the 90s,
and your car antenna was gone,
motherfucker, that was me.
In fact, if you got this five years,
you were the softened.
What I'm saying is I made so much money on that beach.
I think it was Robin Williams who said it,
cocaine is God's way of saying,
you're making too much goddamn money.
So the next thing you know,
I was out there getting hot and getting fucked up.
And I think it damaged my progression,
if I'm not mistaken.
I think it hurt me in my career
because I've been much further down the line
except I took a break.
And when you become an addict,
you put your life on hold.
You know what I'm saying?
You put your possibilities on hold.
You put your possibilities on hold,
because now you're stuck.
You know, I'm sitting in a hotel,
I'm smoking with motherfuckers.
I generally wouldn't talk to on the street.
But I was having a guy.
I'd be sending people all to say,
oh, I smoked crack, my life was so bad, nigger.
I was having a fucking plan.
But, but I was doing it.
And then suddenly I looked up and I was missing some bags.
You know, all of a sudden, I wasn't making
the money that my peers was making.
I wasn't making a progress.
I wouldn't get in the rolls.
I lost so many friends and associates and opportunities.
And most of them, I didn't know I lost.
You know, cause I didn't,
I wouldn't know motherfucker out there stealing shit.
I wouldn't know attic breaking houses
and all that shit.
I was a functioning addict.
I was a functioning addict that was functioning dysfunctionally.
So I was working within the system
because most people didn't know.
When I did Hollywood Shuffle,
then my fuck, no, I was getting out.
Robert Townsend didn't know, he my friend.
That was my first movie.
I had my two lines.
No, no, it's a muffler.
But them two lines got me $1,004 got me in Screen Actors' Gil.
He didn't know.
Bernie Mac got me on death gym.
He didn't know I was getting high.
Nobody knew I was getting high except the motherfuckers
getting high with me, you know, and the salesman.
And the salesman.
You know, it's funny how the addicts seem to outlive the salesman.
Have you ever noticed that?
That's it.
The crack deal of them fucking be dead and gone.
That same attic, walking fast, motherfucking fucking.
Looking for that ruffling.
What the fuck?
Yeah, I hear 40 years later.
If I go to Venice right now, we just went this weekend.
I see cats that was out there getting cracked out when I was there.
And they all walked right up to me and hugged me.
You know, hey, Michael, you're back.
Mouth, all twisting and shit talking about it.
They still on it.
I don't know, I don't think that there's so much other shit in them.
Ain't know how outside shit can kill them.
You got to hit them with a car.
You know what I was just about to see.
Damn.
The mic lives forever.
Yeah, they live forever.
The elephant's killed, Crickie.
Yeah, they're amputed out all that other shit.
Yeah.
Oh, that man, exactly.
I didn't have that shit.
COVID, can we smoke it?
Nigger, put the COVID in the pipe.
Put it in.
Put it in it in hell.
Okay, ready.
We film it.
Hey, nigg.
Pop your shit.
Hey, homie.
Pop your shit, honey.
Pop your shit, honey.
Yeah.
Real-ass, nigg.
Real player.
Real player.
Let's think.
Hold up, my nigga.
You're being hella boozy right now.
Hold up.
Pop your shit, honey.
You already know what it is.
Niggas.
Lose on board.
Throw that shit up.
Wapel City.
Let me pop my pee's for the wannabe's.
I might be.
Yeah, enough.
Show them your cookies.
You brought with you.
Hey, man.
Niggie, look at it.
Cucy.
Nica, throw a hell of cussie.
Hey, niggas.
They got cookies that's a carry on, niggas.
Cookies, nigg.
Cookies got shake in the bottom.
You ain't never had no chocolate chip shake.
What day we go on?
On mama's, nigger.
Fuck you're talking about.
Oakland Arena, niggins.
Yeah, nigga.
June 4th, three-headed monster tour on Cetters.
Nigger on your baby, nigga.
What you're talking about?
I ain't never seen your baby.
Hella niggas, niggas.
Out there.
The bitch is already got their tickets, man.
The bitch is already out there, nigga.
Hella bitches, nigger.
Not few, but a hella.
Hella.
I ain't never seen hella.
Nigger on the town.
It's gonna be hella bitch.
On my mama, nigger.
On my mom.
On my mom.
No cap. And two is not hella.
Fuck you're talking about, nigga.
Get your tickets, nigga, June 4th, nigga.
Yeah.
Town business.
Huh?
What it is?
Three-headed monster tour.
Show them the cookies.
Cookies, niggins.
Oh, mama.
Somebody mama's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, you know.
They were putting taxes on everything because of the COVID.
Raising taxes on everything.
Even the drugs, too?
You know.
Oh, yeah.
I haven't hoped that folks who saw what I do.
See how I do my life.
understand in my life there ain't no perfect life it ain't even close to that shit uh i'm just a
working artist i'm working human being and my goal is to keep unfolding into my greater self so i
want to keep on learning you know i want to learn how to be a better person but how else will
give back you know what is that sound a Volkswagen no no one click click oh pause the music
that's the beat that was the beat coming you got to yourself right then you got this shirt on
your shirt that's music ain't nothing louder than that but you've been on beat the whole thing he said
Ain't that loud enough.
But shut, I've been waiting to say that shit,
but I love it.
Oh, my God, love you the truth, my head,
like you was a head of rubber on it.
Listen, I didn't know,
I didn't know we was going there,
but if we are, I'm running a project now.
We want to talk some shit, let's go.
I'm sorry.
I love that kid with shit.
I don't need no teeth, now.
Mike, that's why I love you, brother.
You're a real comedian, man.
Like, on stage, offstage, man.
You could turn it on, you get intellectual.
You know what I'm saying?
Thank you, brother.
You just said you got to get some
They get hit with a car and get off dope,
you know what I'm saying, so you can.
It was something, I learned a lot from it, man.
I learned a lot, but I'm able to teach from it.
So what would you say to the people
who's struggling with their addictions right now?
They watch it.
Well, I would say, stand tall in your struggle
and continue to struggle and don't give up.
You know, my thing is, I know you can turn it around.
I'm currently doing a one-man play called Michael Kay's Mama,
and I play 17 characters.
And in this play, I go through my addiction.
So you can see me getting fucked up.
You can see me going through this shit.
You know what I'm teaching is a lesson though
that although you can go into it and go through it,
you could also get to the other side of it.
So when people come to watch my show,
they know I'm a fucking hardcore crackhead.
I've been that for years.
And once you're an addict, you're always an addict.
I'm not a practice an addict, but you're always an addict.
And if a person's been getting high a couple of years
think they stuck.
They could look at me and see my career and my life
and my love and my God and see that I went through shit
like every human does, but you can get to the other side.
And you can't just stop, you can't just quit
just cause it look dismal, find some new motherfuckers.
If you hide and you can't get un-hye,
get away from all the people you know.
Get away from them, places and things
that have that drug you desire, can fuck away from them.
You can find some wholesome people.
If you're really struggling and you really want
to stop struggling, because a lot of people who are struggling,
They say they're struggling, but they're happier there.
They've convinced themselves that this is better
than going to do the work it takes
to build themselves as a human being.
So it's just easier to pick up that rock is easier.
So what do you tell people who got people like that
in their family who's struggling in that day
that they're trying to, you know what I'm saying?
You know, because we can't fashion it already
so of course we get somebody like that in our family
if we can't understand how the drug could take over like that,
you know what I'm saying, so.
You know, almost everybody has someone
in their family that's addicted on someone.
something, shit, it might be shoes,
it might be leather, it might be food, but everybody
that's someone who's addicted. If you're talking about someone
who's addicted with a drug, you have to approach it
in the way where you just got to be gentle with them
and just keep coming out.
You know, I have relatives like that, and just keep coming.
I send motivational speaking tapes to them.
I fuck with them. I call them up.
Niggy, you have it right now? Oh, good.
Let's talk. You have it right now.
Be the same.
Click, Nick. You know, I play with them.
You don't want to beat them up, though.
You don't want to demean a person.
because they already got enough shit on them.
The fact that they're trying to become sober.
It's not a joke.
Being high really is an illness.
You're sick, man.
And you mean, like, if addicts have just stopped being addicts on their own,
we just fucking would, but we need help.
And the places, the meeting places and the clinics and shit,
they're not for the people who need them.
It's for the people that want them.
If the people who needed a clinic or needed a meeting went,
it wouldn't be no fucking room.
people have to stand out in the streets, you know.
So you really have to get to a point in your life
where you decide you've had enough.
You've got to be sick and tired of being sick and tired.
You know, like with me, I kept doing it until I finally
I would come home 3.30 in morning.
My wife would be crying, you know,
and that I come in and I lay with her
and then she would fake sleeping
because she didn't want to deal with my shit, you know?
And I would fake like she was sleep too.
I played like she's sleeping too.
I snuck my ass out that bed.
Went back in the bathroom
because I had saved myself
a little broken stem piece of rock
and a lighter
for a after blast.
And I mean, I would be sitting
I'd be in a bathroom butt naked
like where your chair is
and maybe
50 feet away
was a bed by master bedroom
and she would never come and knock on that door
I'd be in there three hours
butt naked
flicking that motherfucker fucking light it
to my thumb was red and sore and shit
and never she
come out there don't do that here
She didn't ever do that.
And I used to blame her for not saving me.
And I would talk about it in my play,
because the play called Mike Kaidama,
and I go through all these characters
and I would tell the story.
And then I'd be on the floor, getting out,
and the 17th show, I stopped the middle of the show.
And I said, fuck.
My wife wasn't supposed to save me.
I shouldn't have put her in that motherfucking position.
She shouldn't have been at the house crying every night
and having to pretend to sleep not to deal with my shit,
and here I am, getting fucking high,
doing all the wrong shit and blaming her.
If I wanted to be saved, I had to save myself.
Counterbillism.
Yeah, I have to save myself.
None of us can save ourselves.
We all need the Holy Spirit to help us.
You know, and I mean,
yeah, because of any program you're in
for addiction rather there's A, A, A, C, A,
even AAA, they all say that you have to be in touch
with the God of your choosing.
Y'all missed a fabulous fucking joke there.
I said even AAA.
Oh, you heard it?
That shit was hilarious.
Oh, you're laughing inside.
Oh, you're laughing at shit.
Well, I don't know.
The shit is working with you.
But anyway.
I'm listening because I know the education is coming too.
Fuck the joke.
I want to get this.
I mean, I'm listening to this real shit.
The shit you get the joke.
Mike, you Joe Joe Downson with this shit, I got to hit it.
The thing is say you Joe Joe.
The shit got that.
I've been laughing at you for 30.
You don't get this game every day.
Yeah, so the thing is, yeah, so after a while, man,
you just got to get sick and tired of being sick and tired.
And I was tired of my wife crying.
I was tired of all that bullshit.
And so I just went to the program, man.
I just got in cocaine anonymous.
And I was in there for about eight months before I got out.
You know, I didn't fall off the wagon.
I jumped off that motherfucker before you knew it.
It was right back where I started.
Because when you're an addict, if you quit, when you go back,
you don't go back and start over.
you go back to the level you are at.
So if you do it $100 worth of crack a bank,
you don't go back and say,
me just give me a damn rock.
That ain't gonna never work.
In fact, I always had a fucking ATM machine
in my house back then.
I kept going back, one more 20.
Then one more 20, I'd clean that.
I'm thinking about getting an ATM machine
anyway, put in my house.
I'm put up against the refrigerator.
And so when you're out there, man,
you feel like you're only alone.
You feel like you're alone.
If you're an addict, you're not alone.
There's always people here talk to you.
If you can't find nobody else, church will talk to you.
But it's always programs in every city.
It's a thousand, not five hundred or forty.
There's a thousand fucking meetings every week
in every major city of America.
So if you say you can't find a meeting,
you're just coming up with excuses.
And you know, one thing we have to do to survive our lives
or to excel in our lives is get away
from these excuse motherfuckers.
It's OQP, only quality people.
You gotta get away from all negative motherfuckers,
People are lying, people who are backstab you,
people talking, saying bad shit, you get away from them.
Especially excuse makers.
I don't know motherfuckers who make excuses.
I don't know people who make money.
I don't know, no motherfuckers who make them both.
And you can be doing great, you know?
And then the motherfuckernex you, oh, the universe has cursed me.
No, the universe doesn't curse you.
The universe responds to your vibration.
Whatever you send it to the universe,
the universe sends back greater to you.
But we don't know that shit till we learn it.
We learn these lessons back going through it.
You know, I lost, I lost,
I lost the love, I lost money, I lost opportunities,
and I suspect I lost respect from people in my industry.
I don't know though, no one's had courage to walk up and tell me.
I know there's a lot of opportunities I don't get.
I don't think it's coincidental.
I think motherfuckers are stopping me from doing this and that.
But let me tell you, ultimately, nobody can't stop you.
You got people out there talking about they'll cancel you.
You can't be canceled unless you cancel your own self.
People can't take your fucking power, you have to give it away.
So a person can say no to you,
but that don't mean you can't do it.
That just means, no, I can't do it with your bitch ass.
So I'll go over here and do it with somebody else.
You know what I'm saying?
But you can't be stopped.
Don't let people stop.
If you feel like you can be stopped,
get back to God.
Because I was trying to tell a story real quick about the whole thing about
David and Goliath.
What was so awesome is David was just a little boy,
and he took out this giant with a smooth rock,
a couple of smooth rocks from the ocean, from the sea.
But it wasn't about what he had or who he was.
He was like, do you see who I'm waiting?
One with God is a majority.
One with God, me and God will take on any of you,
motherfuckling. One with God is a majority.
Once you really get back with God,
really get back straight with your spirit, man.
There ain't no limit to take you.
I'm glad for you.
Then you really get creative.
And don't let love come in a picture.
Oh my God.
If love come in, if you got love,
you found your mate, your other half,
and God, well, you're a beast.
You can make anything happen.
You know?
Yeah.
I like that.
You like the story, huh?
I love you, man.
I love you.
I knew that shit was getting me.
I knew that shit was good.
I'm like that.
I ain't going to let you get walking.
Mike, I like that, man.
I like that message right there by me.
Yeah, man, but I know one of my favorite characters.
Motherfucking the boot.
Come on with it.
What movie?
I'm always wondering, man.
What movie is that is?
House party three.
The only one that really count.
Not one.
I was always wondering if they just let you run.
One was excellent.
It was great.
With that character.
With me?
Of course.
All those lines.
All that shit was man.
You know.
They gave me a line too.
Mostly just let me go.
That's why they move is so good.
The third one was the one is out right now.
It's just doo-doo.
It's the words.
I can't say that.
I can't say that.
I can't say it.
I ain't see one joke.
They see you in the movie.
Where is it?
Okay, that didn't go far enough.
I couldn't make it past it.
Let minutes I cut off and like to apologize.
I apologize personally to D.C.
Because I didn't know you were in that shit.
But how are you going to do this motherfucker
house party without the boat, nigga?
That's the bullshit.
First of all, they did fuck up
when they did. They should have put the boat in it.
They should have put the boat in that.
But I didn't know D.C. was in there. I take that back.
But I tried to watch it. I couldn't.
I couldn't. I couldn't. And for
the one number four, they should, whoever
wrote that shit should apologize.
To every motherfucker in Hollywood and they should get out
the business. Okay, so one and three was
great. Two was okay. Who wrote one? I don't know who wrote the first one. But it was the
brothers. Yeah. It wasn't the Huttling brothers? It was the Huddling brothers.
One that meant to me. I think it was Reginald. I don't know. Somebody over there, all
y'all got. Google. Google. Go to Google. Matter of fact, go to Google. And Google, Google,
and Google. Go to Google and Google. If you see it real fast, you sound like a baby.
Like, go to Google. Eric brought ours, though, and it was really good. What was so cool
with our cast? We had the best cast. Chris Tucker in his first. Fast. Fast.
had two scenes and never looked back.
Yes, the people.
Because the great Bernie Mac.
Bernie was in that two years.
Johnny Booz was his name.
Johnny Boo.
The group.
Yeah, the manager for the stripper and John Williams.
Yes.
Immature was in there.
Emature was in there.
TLC.
The ladies.
TLC was in there.
TLC is a weapon.
Kid and play.
Who else?
Simply Marvelous.
Simple Marvelous.
Rinaldo.
Rade was her husband.
Another great.
Hey, man, that's my, my wife, you talk.
My wife, you see.
You got his voice, that's his voice.
No, that cast was brilliant, and it wasn't nothing but fun.
Every day, it just turned you to fucking leave you.
Who's the ladies?
The lady that was your body called.
I miss A.J. Johnson.
Freeze love.
Freeze loves, and then played the Congress who ran the food service.
AJ was in the two?
AJ was in the two, right?
On the food service with freeze.
He was on there with freeze, yeah.
Catering.
So that's like a, that was a, that was a food service.
Friday right there type of situation, you know the thing, because it's a big comedian.
It was a Friday situation, a situation you bring about a bunch of comedians.
And if you've got a good property, you know, if you've really written a funny-ass show,
almost everybody gets to go on to other stuff.
Kids, you need to get over here.
These boys got a part of everybody here, including the law.
That's the shit.
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in the ad council. That movie was the shit. I got this talk show I had on BET. And this is before
Steve or anybody, any of the black people got stuck. This is the first late night talk show.
And so it was built for Century's the entertainer. And then Cedric walked away. Like six or seven
days before he just left the project. And Bob Johnson, who owned BET with my friend in
time and gave me that opportunity.
So a lot of people remember we're saying, who in the hell
left the gate open?
And when I got on that show, man, first thing
I was trying to do, like I'm trying to do now is get
all the biggest stars I can on my podcast.
Michael talks to everybody.
That's E-R-R-B-O-B-Y.
Spell it right.
And, I mean, so far we've already had earthquake
and T-I and T-S-Madison was wonderful.
I said T-S-W-E-S- in your name.
She said so people, don't.
sexual. I said, but why is it in your name? She said, so if I meet somebody, they know that
right away. That way I'm going to get back to the house and the dangling, don't mean, pop out,
and somebody's in trouble. So we say it up front, and I didn't know that. That's the scariest
shit I had ever heard. I didn't know. I thought it was in the nuisance or something. She said,
but also because she said, I had a second answer. She said, I'm also because I'm very spiritual
and me and my mother's spiritual, and I think my body parts was given me by God. And I
wouldn't want to disrespect God
like that.
And then she said, and, um,
because I asked the white,
why he still got the dick.
And she said,
no, I said,
riddle me this.
She's,
because she told me before the interview.
She said, I don't have to ask me anything.
That's why I said,
well, why do you get the dick?
Why did it?
And she said, my mother and I
was spiritual, and I want to remove that body
part, it would offend a lawyer.
And then she said, I like, give my dick
suck my car.
Don't you like, get your dick suck my car?
I was like, yeah, but not right now.
But I'm just saying,
She came on a show and was open and funny and awesome.
And then Earthquake came and killed it.
Then T.I. came and we joked about him getting booed.
But that wasn't a real booing.
J.B. Smooth had the greatest booing.
Yeah. T.I. came back and, yeah, he came back and represented on here.
T.I. came back and represented.
Jay B. Spoole was awesome. And he always makes it happen.
But he came to Atlanta and got booed so bad.
You hear the boo in the plane. I was flying over here.
Boo! Boo! Mood! Boo! Boo! Boo! You know, so, um, I.
I love both of these cats.
But anyway, so Hill Harper might have the biggest brains
I've ever talked to.
I don't know.
They had to get his brain, that biggest brain,
a little head.
We had Hill Harper on the show.
And then our show is about topics, you know.
So we did, is church still relevant?
But when I did it at first, it was me and three of my heathen friends.
So it was funny.
I don't think we got to the quick of it.
So we came back and brought Yolanda Adams.
Who?
And Bishop Vance Olds.
Y'all know Vince Olds?
I don't know Van's O.
He always roller skating.
You see him and his wife.
Yes, I do know.
On the internet, on, on TikTok, the pastor.
Yeah, he's bad for, too.
He's a lot.
I know you're done, I know you're doing.
Steve Harvey's show, but he did my morning show seven times first.
That's another story.
Anyway, he came on.
And so they could talk, really talk religion.
You know, then we did the nigger show.
You know, NIGGA, naturally invoking God's greatest attributes.
I have a nigger shirt that'll tell you on the back all the countries in Africa that the word
nigger came from and what it meant.
The nigger originally meant God and king.
An emperor.
N-G-R or N-I-G-E-R, which is the Niger River, or there's several varying forms.
So this shirt list all the places come.
So white folks, technically.
Like N-N-N-N-A, like King, like that.
N-E-G-G-A.
And they all make king.
So white folks took our greatest word and used it as a stick to give us something to fight about it.
That's why I'd still be using it.
That you bet.
Fuck them.
We're fucking up.
They be fucking up.
I couldn't find the word
better than saying than nigger.
I can say, nigger, a thousand different ways.
And you know exactly what the fuck I mean.
You my nigger.
Nigger what?
Nigger.
You know, I mean, it's such a wonderful word,
but that means we suck the power out of it.
I will say this, Mike.
Now, what I heard about the nigger,
the N-G connotation.
Where are you hearing this shit from?
I read it in some books.
Well, how the fuck did you hear it if you read it?
I don't believe that.
Hold on, man, you read this nigga read.
Wait a minute, I don't.
I got the book from his house.
Go ahead and back.
Now, he got some books too, though.
You don't look like.
You don't look like.
But if you read some shit, did you read it or did you hear it?
I think you heard.
I was going to tell you.
No, hold on.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
We're going to make it look crazy now.
What voice do you read in?
I read it in the voice in my damn head.
So you basically saying you told yourself this shit.
Well, you didn't act like I got different voices now.
You ain't going to act like that.
You ever argue with yourself?
I argue with myself all the time.
As long as you don't strike you, it should be okay.
Man, y'all tripping.
Y'all feel like y'all judge me right now.
That's my partner.
But I do get community service points, everything.
You know what I'm talking about, man?
Y'all don't want to get it, man.
Hey, back up, man.
Y'all don't even know y'all.
We're in that real shit.
I'm making sat off on that sheet when he leave.
We die on, we down here, man.
Shout out the rest of the piece of Martin Luther King, man.
The day to day, man, he got killed, man.
The damn sure, yeah.
We're saying, no longer one said, hey, nigga,
don't let me forget, we got to shout out Marlono the King.
I say, I ain't going to let you forget,
man, that's right.
Matter of fact, I met Marl Luke the King.
I don't know if y'all notice or not,
but I usually don't tell this story.
You ain't about to get on here, lie.
You know where fucking.
Go ahead.
You aren't even born.
No, listen, listen.
Marlute the King came down to Tuscaloosa,
like 1963,
something called, um...
And you was born in...
No, I wasn't born, I was born after this.
I was just telling you about Martin King
and the significance of the day.
Please tell us.
You see...
You feel for it.
If you see the, when John Lewis, no, no, look, listen,
if you see Bloody Tuesday, you know what I'm saying?
It's Bloody Sunday.
It's Blat Sunday.
Bloody Sunday.
No, no, no.
No, no.
Bloody Sunday happened in Selma.
But the reason for Bloody Sunday was Bloody Tuesday,
which happened a year before that in Tuscaloosa
at the First African Church.
That is true.
Marlute the King came down there too, you feel me?
They tried to beat up everybody in the church.
My whole family was involved in that right there,
you feel me, so.
All the shit came about because of walking.
I keep telling ya, put that fucking walking.
You live longer.
It was trying to, um,
trying to tell them that you can't tell us not to have black,
you can't tell us to drink from the black water fountains,
you know what I'm saying?
I don't think the North dealt with that.
That's a southern thing, you feel me?
Which basically is a Confederate thing, definitely, you feel me?
For the black water fountain.
I don't know if New York dealt with that.
This shit you're saying makes sense.
Even in Chicago.
You gotta think, you gotta think nobody in Chicago,
you think they could have told somebody in Chicago.
Did Martin hear about this?
Because he only drank bottled water.
Martin knew about it.
My cousin used to be Martin Luther King driver.
He was his personal driver for about seven years.
Learine?
No, the guy named Clarence Bozeman.
He got a wife named Maggie Bozeman.
She was the first woman charged with voter fraud in the United States.
Her and the woman named Julia Wilder.
And her husband drove her to it?
No, her husband just to drive Marlute the King around.
Oh, okay.
So civil rights movement, we in Torn in Alabama.
These are just my, my elders and my family.
Always getting on here trying to make Alabama look like a good place.
Don't nobody want to go to Alabama.
You're bloody too.
Exactly why.
I ain't trying to go to no place called Bloody.
Anyway.
Exactly.
That's what they meant.
Me a bloody marriage today.
Like, don't come over your cousin.
Mississippi put me in charge of public relations.
I'm changing the perception of Mississippi.
How can you do that?
Shit, I get on here every fucking time
and be a cold-ass nigger.
I showed the world that is magnificent motherfuckers
down there in the country.
You were magnificent?
They were magnificent then.
I'm from Oxford, Mississippi where a dime costs a dollar.
What college dad?
Is it a college guy?
Ole Miss.
They're in Northwest.
Oh, that shit's so far south
that had to pump sunlight to that mother.
This motherfucker is deep.
Hey, everybody doing the same kind of bad.
Yeah.
Mississippi got a different color highway too.
What color of highway down?
Yeah, well, you know,
it's got brown highways out there.
The white folks don't call us niggas
because they know our name.
Well, you can have that, you can have Mississippi.
I need to stay north.
I need to stay north.
Although my woman from the south,
Hold up, wait a minute.
Mike, you got family for the South, right.
You can talk about the South Carolina.
What y'all from, me, just great either.
Ain't nobody from Chicago.
Not from the same motherfuckers.
They all came from Mississippi.
See?
Yeah, everybody from Chicago from the South Carolina.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chicago ain't got them.
We're in Chicago for life.
He's ain't doing that good up there now.
I've been to Chicago.
I think after this show, we should do a drive-back.
No, fuck, we should.
We should drive back Chicago.
Oh, and look.
Let me tell you what happened.
I got to tell when I went to Chicago.
No, I don't want to know.
I'm mad at you for the Martin Luther King shit.
Actually, I wish I, can we mute his mic?
You see what I'm talking about?
You see how they do, me?
You see that mic?
I don't tell the truth.
This is gonna go out live.
They gotta edit that part out anyway.
Mike, this is true.
No, we don't want people to hear the type of shit
that he holds us.
That's the truth.
Man, this, I be held accountable.
My story is just seen wild, but they all
are legit, man, you don't be.
See what I'm talking about Mike?
Mike, I'm the first one.
The chicken can smell bullshit.
Bullshit ain't nothing but you,
that's grass.
Man.
You watch it, look how he looking at your head.
The motherfucking got us out.
God damn it, don't do no shit.
This motherfucker jump over there.
Look, we did this show called The Miss Pat Show.
I don't know a bit sound just like that.
Really?
Boy, you must hit it right.
That's how she-
Oh, you don't have to be fucking.
You don't have to be fucking enough for her to make that sound.
That's what, that's how she's sound after you tell her
$40.
Now you did the Miss Paschow recently
Oh yeah Miss Paschow, I got the Christmas edition
Coming up we shot it already Debbie Allen directed it
From fame
Oh yeah and she only directed two of them
This is the third season
Damn it you didn't went to the new shit
I was gonna ask you about your character on Martin too
I'll come back to that shit
I bet
Uh and no
Miss Patches off the chain coming to play Santa Claus who gets fired
And I can't tell you the whole story
because it's really, really good,
but to be able to work with Ms. Pat.
She's hilarious.
She is fucking crazy.
We got the same birthday.
Really?
What day is that?
So, have a belated birthday to Ms. Pat?
What day is that?
The second, April 2nd.
Oh, the birthday just went past?
Yeah.
I'm calling on the way to every.
She never picked the phone up, but I'm going to call it.
Me, Ms. Pat, Marmigay, got the same birthday.
Get the hell out of here.
That's why Marmigay on the wall.
Man, I remember the day Marva Gay died.
Man, my dad was in the day.
My dad was in how I'm going crazy.
Like, man, they got me.
Miss Pat had texts me, happy birthday.
I said, I said, happy birthday, Ms. Pat, I love you.
She called me and said, what the fuck you mean?
You love me.
I was like, Ms. Pat, not like, I'm in.
I know you who's married and shit.
I'm just saying, like, I love you.
We got the same birthday, you know what I'm saying?
I fuck with you like that.
And she was like, what the fuck you say that for a white?
Like, you love me?
Like, why I didn't even say that?
Like, you, is you trying to say something to me?
I'm like, Miss Pat, I ain't mean it like that.
You know what?
She tried to fight you.
Exactly.
I'm like, hey, I ain't know that the trauma ran that deep.
I don't have a mistake about them set with my chicken.
You take the chicken there where you go?
No, the chicken takes me.
Oh.
And when I got there, I walked in, and just like this,
there's a circle, read the table, read.
And I accidentally squeezed the chicken.
She said, don't bring that motherfucking chicken.
On this set, well, it's her set.
I'm who that motherfucker, I put it on my seat.
So I get through doing my line, I leaned on the chicken.
I leaned up and did that.
And she screamed from where I told you,
don't bring that motherfucking chicken.
chicken on my set.
So I did this.
And everybody in the room fell in flow laughing.
They were calling.
This on set.
On set.
Take a read.
It wasn't but nothing below
called the chicken rules.
Mike, you're going to be crazy.
Mike, you're a wild, bro.
Yeah, you didn't fucking round, man.
This chicken, man, y'all in the skin.
His chicken is powerful, man.
It changes people.
Folks who don't even laugh, they hit this chicken.
First, they disturbed.
When did this shit start happening, man?
About a year and a half ago.
My ex gave me this chicken, which is probably why she's my ex.
I ain't break shit.
And I'm glad y'all rich, because if I did,
yeah, we'll get some more shit.
Here is y'all.
What I fucking have this.
Get some more shit.
Get some more shit.
You get some more shit.
Now, y'all.
Yeah, we did.
Might you're on Martin, too?
Okay, so bag it up to Martin.
They didn't know he was on that.
14 years ago.
Yes.
Oh, those candles off the chain.
You know what?
He can't let me smell him.
I'm not even going to light.
I'm going to give you these motherfuckers.
I'm not even going to light them.
See, I told y'all free shit.
I'm going to put them right in that bag.
Three shit so good.
I paid for it one time.
Oh, man, no thank you.
Shit, they're going to write in the bag.
I would put the chicken in here, too.
Like, I've been shopping.
I'm going to like this one.
Yeah, this one.
Fuck, all right?
Well, now, what is, that's a different guy, right?
No, that's the, hey, we get, we got all out.
These are our candles, man.
Eight to five times, yeah, we,
everything that we fuck with is out, man.
We got our own grinders, we got our own rolling trail.
This is nice looking grind, it's silver.
Yeah, exactly, you want that?
No, I can't take no ground, but that's nice.
All right, well, fuck, I just wanted you to have some shit.
I love it, man, you can give me enough
at breathing me here, man, you know,
because first of all, you know I love you.
Right.
You know, I mean, you've always been one of the great
Really, ever since I met you, out of the young cats,
you sizzle shit, man, long before you became part of this trio.
It was just you.
You know I've called you many times.
Hey, me, let's do this, let's do that, because you find him a fuck.
And it's natural.
It comes from your spirit.
It's just good shit, man.
I found the right people in this group of audience.
No, you found the right people.
That's what makes the difference.
Yes.
I'm okay, that's how I keep talking about my woman.
Sonia, Powers, soon to be Cowyer,
because my whole life changed when I met her.
That's good.
Everything in my life is aligned now.
I'm sitting smack dab in the middle of my dream, brother.
I'm doing everything I ever wanted to do.
And I'm in so much in love with a woman
I no longer objectify women.
And I've objectified women my whole life
until I met her.
You know, look at her ass, nice titties.
I wonder if she swallows.
But now.
That's subjectifying?
When you treat them like an object, yeah.
What kind of object?
Hopefully a sexy one if it makes you react.
And I don't do that anymore.
I wouldn't care if Beyonce.
What you do now?
I ignore my thing about Sonia.
That's all I can think about is Sonia.
If you're the type of woman, hold up.
If you're the type of woman that's gonna make me ignore
other women.
Stay the fuck way from around me.
I swear I can't even think about anybody.
She's so like.
I don't want no parts of that shit.
I see the bomb, dude.
Keep you.
Number one, no one soul food restaurant
Winston-Salem, North Carolina called Simply Sonius.
We love it.
She has a second restaurant called Simply Soul
and she just acquired the building for our third property.
Give me say our third property.
Yes, sir.
I'm a restaurateur now.
Anyway.
Hold on.
Thank you.
Yes, the Simply Last is rolling, baby.
Mike, that is beautiful.
And I'm up here trying to get them over
to go have on a beef patty.
Go ahead.
Do your name, Mike.
I apologize to my mother when I say this,
but Sonia makes a better salmon croquette than my mama.
And my mama has held that title for 64 years, young man.
She can cook our ass.
In fact, let's get back to nigger for a minute.
I don't really do chicken wings.
That's too nigger for me, okay?
I'm black man.
Don't give me real, my al-A-Salam al-a-a-a-a-law.
Why, too, wazori to the motherfucking bull!
Okay.
Black man, bud.
I'm fucking a chicken wing.
Because every place I go, that's all my friends are.
We can be your fucking friends.
Who, you do chicken wings?
No, nigger.
We're out of chicken wings.
But she has made this sauce called the sonia sauce.
Nip!
I'm eating wings again.
That's all I can say is, I'm eating the wing.
She's fine is frog's hair.
You ever seen frog hair?
No, you can't see it.
It's too far.
Talk to me somebody.
And she has changed my life.
Her just being in my life
has aligned everything else.
It's amazing, man.
It's amazing.
I can't, I talk about it every day.
I tell strangers in the street,
they say, why are you telling me?
I say, shit, I'm telling everybody.
She's bad my fuck.
If I wouldn't me, I would have been her.
Oh, she'd be bad my fuck.
I wouldn't wear the dress,
but I'm just saying.
I heard you.
And when it gets quiet,
I, shit, no, no, I, that's terrifying.
You mean somebody so great for you,
you know, I don't, I don't know shit like that existed.
He said this shit is terrified.
I'm scary as a motherfucker I run up on this.
Oh my gosh, no.
So you should love this right here for that,
all the women should love this right here,
you know what I mean?
Can you imagine you meet a woman,
even like, hey, bro, don't you, don't you?
Never talk to them holes like that.
Channel 85.com. You got an hour for free. We gave you what you wanted. Now give us some subscriptions to the app.
Get the app.
Well, see, this is what they don't know.
The app really $3, but adjusted for inflation is $8.00.
Yeah.
Well, lo, see, get the app, man.
Stop bullshin.
We're out of here, man.
I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.
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of women's sports. In just one year, the network has launched 15 shows and built a community
united by passion. Podcasts that amplify the voices of women in sports. Thank you for supporting
IHeart women's sports and our founding sponsors, Elf Beauty, Capital One, and Novartis. Just open the
free IHeart app and search IHeard Women's Sports to listen now. Welcome to Pretty Private with
Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebeney and every Tuesday,
I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions
and give you new insight on the people around you.
Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network.
Tune in on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Your entire identity has been fabricated.
Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace.
You discover the depths of your mother's illness.
I'm Danny Shapiro.
and these are just a few of the powerful stories
I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets.
We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests
and their courageously told stories.
Listen to Family Secrets Season 12
on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Summer's here, and with the kids home and off to camp,
it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle.
On Good Mom's Bad Choices, we're making space to center ourselves
with joy, rest, and pleasure.
Take the kids to camp.
You know what?
It was expensive.
But I was also thinking, you have my kid.
This is kind of priceless.
Take her, feed her, make core memories.
I don't have to do anything.
Main thing, I don't have to do anything.
To hear this and more, listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices
from Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
This is an IHeart podcast.