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Episode Date: April 14, 20231/4 of the Franchize Boyz Parlae pulled up and tells us how he first started making music in the trap while still going high school! Parlae shared some legendary Shawty Lo stories about growing up in ...Bowen Homes and how nice Shawty Lo was in basketball. He also talked about getting good grades in high school and eventually getting a scholarship to go to college. The Black Effect Podcast Network will be making history again with the first Black Effect Podcast Festival taking place on April 22nd in Atlanta. 85 SOUTH will be hitting the live podcast stage with WHOREible Decisions, Checking In With Michelle Williams, Reasonably Shady, BIG FACTS and many more. Make sure to grab your tickets today at BlackEffect.com || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I did in 10th grade
I didn't have no song
I just had that
I see the irony part about that is
I did in 10th grade
Little grade, I play basketball, I hoop, shit.
So Pember will play basketball, too.
So Pimper beat on a locker, and I say, I'll do the verse.
Because he won no beat.
You know what I'm producers and shit.
I told you, I just did the shit off my mind.
Right.
I didn't have no beat in there.
So Pimp was doing it.
All the players rap that shit, like Sunset Park.
Everybody rapping that shit, singing all the lyrics.
It's the whole verse.
12th grade, Pimp ended up moving, going to another school.
So I ain't seen him for a whole year.
Buddy and two of my homeboys from my project and born home graduated before me.
They was one to tell me Polly need to come to school.
I'm like, hell, no, I ain't gone no motherfucking fuck that shit, bro.
I'm done.
You know what I'm saying?
They were like, bro, you ain't doing shit anyway.
You might as well.
So you know how when you go to school, at the end of the school year,
you go to school and you put in for all your scholarships,
everything that rollover for your next year.
You pick your class or whatever class you want to take next semester.
you want to take next semester so they were doing that they said ride with us i said if y'all
n'n't smoke some weed with me so and these niggins don't know i smoke weed so i've been
smoking weed since i i've been smoking weed forever you know what i'm saying i'm high's head
basketball game i got to smoke i went to timid d drossacks this the nicksts
smote a mid day yeah know what i'm saying i only got i spent the hundred dollar and got
ten droc sacks from timid d we smoked that shit bro i swear the god we wrote all the way to the
beginning of north carolina no music ain't no
Everybody said, nah, niggins just hi.
Do the orientation shit.
I got weed on me.
I got sex on me.
Another weed bomb.
Every HBCU is on the motherfucking project, it's in the projects.
Yeah.
Every single one of them bitches.
It's about literally.
Yeah.
So a nigga asked me, bro, you got some weed.
I said, yeah, I got some weed.
I get a nigga Nick, he gave me $10.
And I put my bum in my pocket, he'd walk off for me.
No, I don't, shit, fuck that hell out.
I thought about it.
Asked my home, I said, hey, man, what the hell these is up here?
He said, they're dying, bro.
And he ain't got any green weed.
He was like, boy, he ain't got no shit like this.
By one of them filled out for every motherfucker
guy out there on scholarship I could.
Now I got to school.
So in the end of the summertime, beginning the semester,
when you go orientation, I walk down the sidewalk,
and I hear a beat playing out the dorm.
So now, every time I hear a beat, I'm rapping this song.
But ain't no instrumentals, though.
If you hear an instrument, it's somebody song, for real.
Right.
Niggas ain't out.
My 10 ain't no producers.
Ain't no free beats in there.
Right.
I'm like, ooh, shit.
I walk in all the way in the room.
When I walk in there, bitch, it's pimped.
I ain't seen pimping the whole year.
Damn.
I'm like, you remember that song?
He's like, yeah, yeah.
And I rock that shit right there.
First day of school.
The nigg and niggas, like, shit.
They've been old with it.
I never went no class.
I rap every day and trapped every day in school.
That's it.
It's all I did.
With scholarship money.
Yeah.
But you know, I graduated with a grade point average
point average because I had to go to night school my whole 12th grade year too so my
whole twigree year went to school from 8 in the morning 8 at night yeah god damn yeah
yeah yeah because you know school started 8 in the morning but we got like 3 30 yeah and I got to
go to Washington my class first class started at 4 o'clock and then night class is 2 hours then we're
so fucked up about it my home rule my first period teacher at dub was my first class period teacher
you in night school. So if I didn't go to school, if I didn't go to day school, I can't go to
night school. Right. Do you what I'm saying? Yeah. But you keep missing day, you keep fucking
up with school, yeah, and graduate. Now I'm like, hell now, what I got to graduate? I ain't
going to be the stupid, nigga. You know what I'm saying? So I end up, I end up graduate
with a high grade point average. So I, I, um, qualify for like the UNCF scholarship,
you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? Oh, just a few little, you know what I'm
and they pay for all my classes. And as long as I kept a good grade, you know, roll over to the next
Mr. Milster.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
But I don't know how I kept rolling.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Smoking some weed and rap it.
For real, for real.
Paid off.
Yeah, yeah.
For real, for real, for real.
Niggas didn't know that with my song.
My brother was rapping that didn't know with me.
Can nobody knew I rap.
I didn't pass out no CDC.
Pimp did all that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I was just doing that shit because she was fun to do.
And shit, I was in North Carolina.
I don't know nobody.
Yeah.
I'm in there with a homie bunch of lena, niggas.
Niggas from Bonham, niggins from the temp,
niggins from Kurt Wood, niggins from Zone 3,
niggas.
Like, niggas, I asked my partner other day,
and my partner, Crone.
Nigger, how the fuck did you get to college, nigga?
That nigga said, same way you got there.
Crum.com.
Yeah.
No, not Crone, Chrome.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's why I don't know.
Well, we got those colleges
and came up there with that goddamn good-ass,
the goddamn bright green, yeah.
I remember that shit
when ounces were dead, that $50 and shit.
That's what they were.
You get the reggae, you get the good green register
for $25 an ounce.
I would tell them to fucking them up,
fucking boy and shit.
So then, like I said,
that all that shit happened in the songs,
that shit just started rolling.
And by the time I came back home,
I had two popping songs in the club.
You see what I'm saying?
And then I started selling two for five.
Two for five.
Two for five.
First nigga in the seat of Atlanta
they said two for fives.
I have a two for five trap.
Let me say that.
I'm the first thing to say they have two for five trap.
Everybody knew it.
That's how everybody knew me before the music.
Niggas knew me from that.
So then by time White T. got big
and then we got on the radio and shit,
and niggas like,
nigga, this is you.
I was like, yeah.
Like, what you're doing?
That when I knew,
the niggas thought that everybody said on TV rich.
Nah, nigger.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
No, for real.
No, that shit was...
That shit was hell of a ride, nigga.
Fas, too.
She pulled up like a roller coaster.
We was in the sky.
Two hits on.
Fazz.
With a knick, with a knick.
With a knick.
Two-Five trap.
See, the shit was so crazy, bro.
When White T. got big, and we would do...
We would do shows and shit, bro.
You know, it gets, like, $1,500, you know, when we first started out.
But I would never go to the shows.
There was no money.
You know what I'm saying?
So, the niggas were going to buy a home.
Hey, wait, come on, Paola let him go.
I'll go on the front door and walk out of the back though.
I should leave them nigga sitting out there
till the nigga pull out.
Because I never wanted to go to the show.
It's like, I didn't want to leave.
You know what I'm saying?
Till the niggas, walking in this motherfucker with me,
like, nah, Paulette, come on, you come to this shit, bro.
Yeah.
Facts.
Real trout shit, dog.
Man.
That beat, man.
You run a friend of this.
Yeah, he's up fucking with it for 20 years ago.
Come on, man.
Faddy.
Yeah.
Have you been 20 years, dog?
In real life.
Strong.
No, if you really.
Yeah, we saluted.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you.
Hey, man, welcome back to the 85 South Show.
Yeah.
Let's go.
What we got?
It was voted most likely to succeed.
And it did.
Facts.
Nigel, no, just seeing your growth, your transformation.
Let me tell them who we got in here before we even get into all that.
Intro.
It's one of my real motherfucking.
Monumental.
Man, we go way back to shit.
When I all been telling them about all the crazy events and nights and shit, we had at the strip club, man.
This nigga been fucking with him, way back on the camera.
Shit.
What more can you?
you say man this niggins a certified ghetto legend come on certified right here from
the west side streets of Atlanta man uh she had one-fourth of the franchise
boys that's seen entertainment yeah that's a little nigger you understand me that's
that's what I'm talking about man none other day palate you feel me oh oh hold up
Hold on.
The real Palais.
Yeah, understand me?
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
I'm welcome back to.
Somebody ate my last shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You came.
You came back in the days when we were really trapped out.
Nah, for Spanish.
Yeah, no.
Shit, man.
Now you got your own show and everything, man.
And still doing the music shit, yeah.
And still doing the music shit too.
In the apartment with Palais.
You know what I'm saying?
And you got one of the coldest little, uh, little,
league football.
In the nation.
Yeah.
Teams in the nation.
Yeah.
Facts.
Okay.
Go ahead that boy, Play, though.
You know what I'm saying?
Huncho league shit, man.
Seven on seven, man.
You got a kid and he good, he's decent.
You want to sort to the next level.
Better bring that boy does.
Facts.
No, man, this is good to see your transition, nigger.
I hosted your welcome home part.
Facts.
You show's damn dead.
Big motherfucking fattice.
Big facts.
Yeah, man, and just to see that you're doing, man.
I don't came a long way, though.
A whole, man, motherfuckers always said the shit wrong.
He did the three six, nah, man.
I didn't say I'm 20.
You feel me?
Come on, man, yeah.
Tony Hawk.
Yeah, I turned around two times.
Yeah.
I was gonna tell my homie, I was like,
bro, y'all, y'all don't know.
The him?
Nah, that nigga were different.
Paulet with a dread, man.
Yeah, Pollack with a dread.
Yeah.
It was a whole different niggins.
For sure, for sure.
But shit, like you were saying,
you would never really chasing the music.
These things, it just felt like it just lined up,
just like destiny.
I still, like, I refer now to this day,
I really say that I'm not a rapper.
I just a rap.
You see what I'm saying?
I never had visions of being a rapper.
Never wanted to be a rapper.
I've never seen a niggas like,
but I want to do that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I remember one time, bro.
We were at the Grammys, all right?
And we were doing the red carpet.
We had the soups and shit,
DLB on it, custom shit and all that shit.
But JD proposed a got down,
we had a got down,
we wouldn't go nowhere without the money.
Go fuck what you're talking about.
So he said he had us walkthrough,
70, 500.
I never forget this shit.
Send the 500 walk through.
He gonna get his money when we get there.
All right, knick playing.
All right, play with that shit.
We got that motherfucker.
And you got that had that money.
We rolled all the way to the hotel room.
And the nigger didn't have that money.
We put them suits on.
I walked the red carpet.
And they got that money.
I told my man a chick on, hey, I'm going to the airport.
And he said, bro, it's the grandma.
I said, you're going to fuck about no gravy, bro.
My girlfriend will go back the boy home, bro.
Bakehead popping.
You know what I'm saying?
I couldn't leave the hood, bro.
I like, I think that's really a reason why we never
Because it wasn't no money.
Just because he didn't.
Yeah, that's $75,000.
Yeah.
Right.
I'm gonna try it.
That ain't, man.
You knew that, okay, you got to give me this because this is what I'm missing.
You said, they're going to do it.
They've been saying that to get you.
It's like, yeah, it's like me saying, they ain't coming.
Got there, a dude.
Like, we got something for you.
Yeah.
And then you're like, but I'm gonna get to it.
When you get there, I got you.
And then you get there.
All right, no, nigga, all right?
And you get that, you know what I'm saying?
And I don't even know if he had.
He probably still had it for.
I don't know.
I just said that's how disconnected I was from music.
Like I ain't really, I didn't really care about all that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I couldn't wait to get back to the hood.
You know what I'm saying?
I just wanted to tell all the stories what we were just doing,
but that shit wasn't lit.
That niggas just, you know how these old folk telling days
when they tell a story, everybody listening like this.
You know what I'm saying?
The high walls, but we did this with this nigger did.
You know, this back then, niggas ain't seen shit.
I know niggas ain't never been passed downtown, bro.
Right.
I know niggas ain't nothing to the east side, side.
Outside, boy kid.
Don't know nothing about none of that shit.
Right.
You see what I'm saying?
Now, niggas go everywhere, but then nigger won't go on nowhere.
So a nigga on in all that shit.
You were well, bro.
Right.
You were born in New York City, 975.
Up there with you about, yeah, bro, what that shit was like?
You want to hear that shit.
I found excitement out of that more than doing it.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Come back telling them.
Yeah, yeah.
That shit wasn't lit, nigger.
Come on two, I took 17 niggas.
Right.
And on two, I took 17 niggas.
When you had number 12 bed.
And there's already four of us, and we had four dancers and two road managers and the DJ.
I just told him, hey, get on the bus.
Who going?
Paulette, we ain't got no clothes.
Fuck out there.
Who's going?
Nick, every time we stop it, hey, get to my old, hey, get to all shit.
And they were like, man, I got to go home.
Drop him white fly.
Hey, man.
Looked up there was six and a bus.
Yeah, yeah.
No, they're about 10.
Hey, I'm gonna catch the Greyhound back to the crew.
No, they were flying.
You said they were flying.
dropping like flying.
Yeah, yeah.
By the goddamn.
The road light made no hole.
Yeah, nah.
Yeah, that shit ain't for everybody, boy, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially proud of how y'all was hitting with y'all.
Yeah, yeah.
That shit was lit.
Y'all was every night on her.
That shit was, nah.
How was you talking about that, bro?
We did show for three years straight.
No break.
Hey.
You feel like you got burnt out on this shit?
Yeah, no.
Uh-uh.
It's just that if you don't understand the,
process, you'll get lost in the South.
See, because a lot of artists, what they don't do,
they don't record new music,
why they're doing all these shows and doing all this movie.
And then you look up two or three years,
the shit you were doing old now.
Yeah.
It's a good way, new sound.
Yeah.
It's hard to make another hit.
You got to stay on that shit.
When you own them off, you got to keep working out,
and then you work out for four, five days and stop.
But you ain't going back to it, yeah.
Yeah, no.
Work out 30 days.
the gym in the morning.
You know what I'm saying?
It's the same thing.
And I think that kind of head does back too,
because we ain't really dropped no new music.
You know what I'm saying?
We ain't know no better.
We ain't know none of this shit, bro.
We're niggas.
We don't know nobody got no record label,
no deal, had no deal, no none of that shit.
We don't see celebrities like that.
They don't come to the west side.
You ain't riding through ball home, bro.
I ain't seen that shit.
So it was fresh for us.
You know what I'm saying?
And then, the label gave us all the money.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
They didn't control our budget.
When they already signed, the label control their budget,
they didn't control my budget.
They gave all the money.
Shit.
Yeah, yeah.
I love to see black people getting money.
Yeah, yeah.
Now, we told you.
Everybody can't do that, though.
We were hot, though.
You know what I'm saying?
So we can do that.
But who getting out of the money?
We had two labels.
It was between one and the other.
Right.
One of them were talking the shit we were on the hill.
Yeah.
The other one was talking the shit that we didn't want to hear.
But the shit they were saying, the shit that we didn't want to hear,
was really the shit that we're supposed to go with.
For real, for real.
What was daytime?
Why is it at?
Huh?
No, see, it came down to Atlantic and Universal.
All right?
Atlantic wanted to give us $2.50 for the album,
but they wanted to do $2.50 for promotions.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, fuck out.
I don't do no.
Hell now.
The University said, we'll give y'all all this shit.
I said, y'all won.
y'all won.
This shit was that easy.
Y'all won.
They took out $705,000 for White Tea to do the video
and do all the promotion behind
and gave us $425,000 in bank account.
And then we spent like 30,
between $30,000 and $40,000 on the album total.
That's Mix and Master Studio Time.
Because we made all the remit,
done all the beats on it.
Mm-hmm.
So you ain't had to go buy no.
What's on all right?
You know what I'm saying?
So we're just doing nigga shit.
But that was- On top of, on top of,
Getting 10,000 in the show,
and the goddamn goddamn getting 20 more deposits this week.
I don't know, but that shit sounds like smart.
You think the other rap was better, you say?
Yeah, yeah.
That man, you know, no promotion.
Because the promotion, we ain't got nothing, right?
So y'all got a, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the promotion, they would have made the money on the back end.
Yeah, yeah, got you.
Okay.
She got a nigga I think the original white tea
wasn't never a number one song.
It was never a number one song.
It never charted number one.
Never.
As much as influential white cheese, it never charted number one.
It became a number one single when Travis Scott Thudge and we did it.
What?
They gave us our third number one single.
You know what I'm saying?
That's recent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't you love walking to the mail box and getting an old fat-ed random check?
The email come first.
When you had to look and be like, what?
Oh, y'all get the email?
Yeah, y'all get the email first.
See, acting shit, I just show, I just find out.
No, for real, for real.
See, and then what we're gonna understand too is,
like, when you're talking about this shit,
like the only groups to have more number one singles than Franchise Boys
is Beastie Boys and Outcast.
Man, that's a hell of a class to be in.
Damn.
And we're the only group that ever have two number one singles back to back, though.
That's hard.
Oh, I think they're liking me in Ling with it.
You know what I'm saying?
Back to back.
Damn.
We got a platinum album, platinum singles, like the numbers there.
Men like women, like numbers don't, palm them.
Straight out of the hood.
And y'all did that...
And you did that...
Out of two for five trap.
And did that without the promotion budget?
Yeah.
Shit.
Sometimes a nigga better on yourself and you're wondering though.
We ain't know no better, bro.
We're just driven, bro.
It's just per ambition.
And just, in God touch.
Now y'all n'n'n't be some.
Just keep going.
You know what I'm saying?
Bamos didn't make it a lot of time.
I couldn't group two or three times.
Shit, I don't know.
Two, three things happened in the midst of shit.
You see what I'm saying?
I don't know who came to shit even in the midst of that shit.
Because like in the time where we got the two number one singles back to back.
That was in 2005 and 2006.
In 2006, I called a traffic in charge.
You see what I'm saying?
So in the highest in my career,
I'm going through the worst of shit that I can go through.
You see what I'm saying?
I look at a lot of shit, be like,
brun, a nigga don't survive shit
that I'm in through, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, niggum, a warrior, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why I'd be so cool.
Now, I ain't gonna hire on them?
I don't done all that shit, bro.
I know what that shit gonna get, bro.
You can't keep playing with that shit, boy.
Hey, I keep playing with that shit gonna spank your ass.
You know what I'm saying?
You ain't gotta tell me, I'm done.
Yeah, man.
I don't want nobody.
You're motherfuck giving out.
Not even football numbers, no more.
These dinosaurs numbers.
Yeah, yeah.
They're gonna live it.
3,060 years.
The kni-go-a-lis.
Consecutive back-to-back life turn.
Plus, you got five years house arrest when you finish them.
When you're dach.
When you got paid million-dollar rest, too.
Oh, start today.
Shit.
Oh, no, you know that shit is a trap, man.
Trouble easy as hell to get into, man.
It's hard as fuck to get out.
Oh, that's weird.
Hey, man, what I had the cheek on and got there, fly it?
Man.
Flying somewhere working on some shit.
You said cowboy shit.
You know Chico's on the limit in Atlanta.
What are you going to stay at?
In North Carolina.
In North Carolina?
What about North Carolina?
I ain't gonna say it on camera.
Okay.
Yeah.
You stand the hook.
You're smart as a motherfucker, bro.
Yeah, eh, eh.
You've been doing it.
You see it.
And clap it up for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what I'm gonna say me.
Yeah, man.
I'm hit the block one time, man.
Yeah.
He said that's him.
No, that ain't nobody busy.
Yeah, exactly.
You're right.
You hit that motherfucker scream me out, dog.
They're right.
Get me right.
You know what I'm saying?
No, you're right.
You feel me?
I want to say you're out there on rest easy, buddy, too.
You know what I'm just about to ask you that?
It's real.
Rest easy, shot and low.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Bankhead chair, you know?
I love my hood, dog.
Yeah.
Well, that's definitely, man.
We up there with, like,
crap with companies and shit.
Tell people about born home.
How born home and how big that motherfucker was and just like what that shit was like?
Okay, we had a car shop, regular store, barbershop, beauty supply, two gas stations, wing spot, grocery store,
londermat, library, school, medical shop, like, you know, when people's something wrong, you go, something happened to you.
We had a center.
We had a football.
We had a youth program.
We had three basketball courts out of my projects.
Inside that bitch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you're not even talking about the gas station outside that bitch and that barbershop.
Soon you come out of Bankhead and you make it right, this, all this shit is right here.
Boom.
Yeah.
We didn't have to go nowhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Like nowhere.
Bro, you know for the longer time, bro, I didn't leave my parking lot.
I didn't even know.
I started meeting niggas when we got older who say,
I'm from born home.
No, the fuck you ain't.
From wealth.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I stayed around then, I started saying,
damn, bro.
I ain't never been around now.
Man.
I just stay in my parking lot.
This park lot, the park lot across me,
the park lot to the right of me.
Because we played them niggas, basketball, football,
you know, them niggas we played against.
You know what I'm saying?
You get yourself together all week.
We play with each other all week.
No, low.
You can't pick low, hell no.
Yeah.
Then Chad got a goddamn picker, this, hell no.
You know what I'm saying?
Then we go play them niggas.
So that's all I do.
You know what I'm saying?
Nah, I love the hood.
That's the hood, bro.
Nigger, boy at home, is this, is it.
A solo individual hood.
Don't produce the most talent out of the amount.
Kilo, I need.
Come on.
Us, D4L.
Chalk Boys, DJ Pool, half of the beat most of producers.
Right out Bowen Home.
Right out of Bowen Home, though.
Man, you brother...
That ain't even bankhead.
That's Bowen home.
Yeah.
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You brought up Shaw to Love, man.
Tell us about it.
That nigga Lowe was a celebrity before music.
Exactly.
You see what I'm saying?
Lowe was a street legend in the line of the heart.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why I got the burnt orange Monte Carlo.
I see everybody.
no fucking Sean Lowe. Everybody knows the burnt on the car load.
Everybody know the goddamn champagne, Yukon, don't Duceus.
For Ducey was that. You know what I'm saying?
Shawley was just real, shodd a real dope boy.
You know what I'm saying? I want to get a car like Lowe.
I want to do that shit Lowe doing.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
Real deal.
And he was a good nigga too.
Like Lowe was a real good nigger.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, every street nigga out of their ways,
but Lowe was a good, genuine giving,
giving, doing shit for, you know what I'm doing shit for niggas?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
And don't try to sign us, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I used to give us a thousand a week.
I like all of us.
For real.
Like when we first started.
I remember when D-4-1 first thing I started as a label.
You know what I'm saying?
This is like in 2000, like in 2000.
You know, I'm saying?
I used to be at Moot Beach Studio, PIL, you know, PIL.
You used to be signed in MMG.
Yeah.
Peel is the one who, you know,
who told me I need to start rapping after the Leonard Art Festival.
Shout out to Peele.
You know what Peele showed me what bars was,
how many bars is a verse, how many bars is a hook,
how you got to stack it, how you got to do ad-lis.
It ain't known of that shit.
Peele taught.
And the only person had any kind of studio with Moot B.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit talk used to be in their shot.
Writs, easy shit talk.
You know what I'm saying?
Born and Immaculate used to be in there.
So we were going there and play beats and should do rapping.
And Lowndham used to come up there.
We had to go outside with Loanum came.
You know what I'm like six, 10 years old.
Look, they did Lowe.
You know what I'm saying?
Like Lowe Ben Classic like that, you know what I'm saying?
So when he started rapping, that shit was like,
that shit was easy.
No brain.
She was easy for him.
All the thing he had to do, just get better.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Nah, for real, for real.
Nick, classic.
Motherfucking, King of Bankhead.
Real shit, I'm some love.
King of motherfucking bank head, man.
Nick, me in Lowe, though.
The hood, me and Lowe.
I ain't gonna lie.
When Lowe died, a lot of the hood died.
A lot of bank had died with a little die.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, my hot dog.
Goots do a good job
they got in keeping that shit lit, though.
You know what I'm saying?
But, like, the energies, it ain't the same no more.
You know what I'm saying?
Crucial, crew, pallet.
You know what I'm saying?
Blue flame.
The bank, I see that.
Yeah.
That's a script club.
That's a script club.
Nika won't go spend no money.
Right.
At the fly.
That was in spite, though.
That was his spot, though.
Daytime.
Oh yeah.
That nigga love the flame.
Daytime.
You're right there by the hood.
Exactly.
Like, when I was like, this time,
I was like 15, 16 years old.
If you wanna go to the bount, go with Lowe.
So when Lowe, what I'm saying, leaving?
We said, if you're gonna walk to the bounce,
because that shit ain't in there,
but nigger, right down the street.
Right.
And we just went on Lowe.
And we just walking in with Lowe.
You know what I'm saying?
But you better get in earlier,
because when they're gonna go down, you're done.
You know what I'm saying?
But see,
I didn't usually like the hoop against Lolo.
I didn't even used to want to be with Lodo.
I used to want to play against him and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
He used to beat everybody.
And Lowe was the first thing I ever seen in life
due to the Eurostep before torn the par go,
before Ginobley.
Lowe was called out there on the park?
No, Lowe just had this fucking Euro step.
And we used to call in the Wau.
That's the motherfucking walk.
There ain't a wall taking two steps.
No, fucking, no, shoot for it.
No, me, anybody shoot for it.
You're in a tournament.
We got referee, Lowe and say shoot for it.
Nika, you're running this shit,
No stop, dog.
We got referee, not shoot for it.
Lo ain't crazy.
So this motherfucker had to, eh.
Nah, it was slow.
He gonna do it, he gonna take it over your head.
Oh, oh, yeah, okay.
I'm like, Lo, that's a walk, dog.
There's two steps.
Because you gotta go, he'd do it off the gatherstep.
You can do that, though.
But you gotta think, this is, this is ending 99, 2000, bro.
Right, niggas wasn't having no gatherstall.
Man, where else you gonna hit some shit like this?
It's like 2002, 2000.
2001 and some shit like that.
Shown's a little head the Euro step.
You hear this.
This is 85th.
I'm sure it's exclusive.
Yeah, yeah.
This real black history.
You were the first thing I ever do the Eurostep.
Run this fact back in February.
Yeah.
For sure, for sure.
Yeah.
I stand on that.
Make me a liar.
Make me a liar.
That was there.
And he won't in born in Hooper with us.
Yeah.
You feel me?
Like, because I'm gonna tell you,
this is this nigga named Art Leffey.
He was the number one point guard in the nation
the same year, Jay's a kid came out.
He was just a street nigger.
He used to play with Lowe all the time.
Everybody in this, any nigger in the city.
What's his name?
A.
Any nigger in the city will play basketball,
know what the fuck Ack is.
Ask Ock.
Ock is a street basketball, Atlanta legend.
Euro step, nigger, lower the Euro step.
Eurolo.
I wish I had some videos in that shit, bro.
You see Lowe, little shoulder,
with his fat-ass stomach.
Do what they got there?
Hey, man, what's some of the crazy shit
you've seen in Bowen Home?
Like some shit that just stand out of you forever, you'll never forget.
All right, listen.
You know, I'm silly as a motherfucker, right?
I'm silly as shit, but you got no bitches know that, right?
Right.
So, we used to make J's, we used to get Jays free rocks to smoke that bitch upside down.
So niggas.
So the dick's wet, get upside down on his head.
He must have been there because he laughed and two goddamn hard.
And smoke that motherfucker upside down.
Hold on.
He must have been there.
He started laughing.
Nah, he's just shit because that's just silly-ass shit.
Upside down.
Standing on their head.
Yeah.
Then we just do shit like...
What the fuck that's gonna be?
Dive in the dumpster.
Oh, we had one diving the empty dumpster.
We only do the dumpster.
Damn, to make them run and jump in the dumpster.
Yes.
Monday, when the don't come, when the man comes,
that empty dumps down,
that this time, yeah, run that motherfucker,
and they're jumping that bitch.
Play, play, no, bro.
You got diving that motherfucker.
Right that motherfucker.
Right that bull to that bitch.
Dude!
The motherfucker.
No, you know that big treatment, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, the bitch was a man.
At least they made that bitch empty, though.
Nah.
You can't get the trash.
Yeah, yeah.
That ain't shit.
Nah, look I'm joking.
They're empty motherfucker, father.
What is that?
You got a head.
Yeah, yeah.
We got to hear that bullfunk.
We got to hear that shit.
Dood, dude, boy.
I'm telling you, man.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
They were lying out to do that shit,
probably.
y'all did the dumpster dive already.
Yeah, yeah.
Damn, shit, man.
Little black, little shalt black with the ball head.
Every time he got down and get right,
he'd be like that, he'd be like that,
he'd be like that, he's in the midget.
What you're in the midget?
What's the midget?
A little person, adorff.
That's what it is?
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, little people's adorable.
They all, all.
She doesn't even want to get in the conversation.
They all have a door for looking at little people.
They scare her?
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Bring a man.
Baby, look at eye.
Get right up on this.
Hey, babe, give me a little thing right now.
Why is it in the other one right now?
What happened?
Is this childhood trauma or something?
Oh.
They're just regular people.
They, eh, they can't help that.
We got to listen to the opportunity.
Let me stop.
They're going to be the counselor this shit.
That shit that lady, whoever that lady was off camera.
Put that bitch on her head.
You know, he had a daughter.
We had a daughter.
motherfucker right and she ain't like going to the motherfucker because every time he
go he want to touch and put on a thing she should be like oh no oh no he got
no no he got one no no no he's no no no but then he niggins he'll hit that
motherfucker and he he checked when he gets right he check like that if he ain't
like that you just want to see him get like that but listen it's a piece of fun and
shit man you make entertaining I you know we used to entertain each other bro
like for real man dumps the dad
Man, that's fucked up.
That's fucked up.
That's fucked up.
I might bring it back.
Don't leave it where it is, man.
It'd be funny now.
Do, do, do, do.
What's on there, doc?
Man, you've been around for a lot of different changes in the music on the Atlanta city, man.
Yeah.
I remember you dropping a lot of music around.
Have you said that time?
On the independent shit, just yourself.
Mm-hmm.
Come on. You know, I always bring her face hot.
That shit.
That was a lot.
That was right.
A lot of stuff.
A lot of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Man.
Like, you got to catch these dudes before they got to be, you know, before they got to actually catch their own way.
Waves.
Because like, when you're in the streets, like, like you're really outside, like these
niggas say outside now.
Yeah.
Like in these times, niggas went outside.
Outside was dangerous.
I go with where you went to.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit was dangerous.
And niggas went outside and I used to be everywhere.
And one thing.
I don't give a fuck what city-state
where real niggas respect
real niggas and real niggas feel
real-niggy energy. You know what I'm saying?
So I just had the opportunity to brush
shoulders with niggas. You know what I'm saying?
I just always believe in the coming up
in the hood. I don't see
I don't see
niggas, dog-niggas. You know,
niggas who answer the dog for the spots and shit.
I don't see them niggas
become the man
in six months till the year.
And the nigger who used to be the man is the nigger
answering the door i don't see in that a few times and i don't see a situation where
niggas try to shit on certain niggas cut their position and now niggas got to see certain
niggas you know what i'm saying so i always taught myself don't treat nobody different
you know what i'm saying you treat everybody you treat everybody you treat everybody you make
niggis respect you how do you respect them you know what i'm saying so the niggas are always
in fuck with that shit you know what i'm saying so walk up be like well i'm coming to shoot
the video we're pulling up we're doing the song we're in the studio you know what i'm saying
yeah so shit they'll be all-thinitin it bro then i'm from the city for real
You know what I'm saying?
And there ain't a lot of niggas from the city that every side respect.
You know what I'm saying?
There's a lot of niggas, you know, the niggas super respected on the west, on the south, on the east.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's, niggas on the south don't really fuck with.
It ain't too many niggas who every side really fuck with.
And I'm just one of those niggas.
You know what I just always make sure that I show that same love to the street,
you know what I'm saying?
You're all right to the street.
Yeah, you actually beat every fucking way in the city.
And that's what I was just about to ask you.
Like you said, that's the approach.
that you take me you ever find yourself in the middle of some shit ain't got shit to do with you
like on some rap shit like you felt like niggins then put you in the position trying to make you
pick a side over some shit that ain't got nothing to do with you i ain't got me pick no side but you
give what i'm not saying that to make it be like damn then you fuck with them niggas like damn
I ain't never said me though yeah like damn now you fuck with them like that really like that
Because my relationship ain't based off another nigger.
You see what I'm saying?
I don't been around niggas where everybody in the world said.
Like, what you just hang on?
Don't hang around and I'm not be like,
she went there and did shit to me, my niggins shit, you know.
You know, you're cool.
Like, you know, nigga, don't lie to me.
It would be where to be.
Everybody shit different, you know what I'm saying.
I asked you that because, you know,
sometimes shit just hit different when motherfuckers hear other people say it.
Yeah, but niggas got to get good at mind their business.
That'd be the thing.
Niggas be wanting to be cool with niggas.
That's why they don't, that's why I'd be hard for niggins to choose sides
because nigger, nigger, what the fuck I'm choosing,
what the fuck do for me?
What the fuck do you do for me?
Right.
You see what I'm saying?
Unless the nigger's just like, she, goddamn, hey, lo,
I'm telling you, but don't be around them, nigger, bro.
You see what I'm saying?
And then it's up for me to be like,
you can't tell me what to be around or you know what,
I'm gonna fuck with you enough, I'm gonna just stay out y'all's shit.
You see what I'm saying?
So you know, shit, mind you being it.
That's the bad thing to do right now.
I ain't got shit to do.
You see something to do like that.
You can look like that now.
You can go ahead peep and see what going on, but...
Yeah.
Don't keep looking.
Yeah.
Don't keep looking.
Nigger.
Niggas get this shirt.
Niggas don't even duck no more.
Like this.
They got their phone now.
Oh, that big homie shit?
Yeah.
Big homie.
Yeah.
You all right.
Yeah.
Who shoot?
It's a different game, man.
I just seen, like, never thought we would get to this point.
Not for real.
It's so, I ain't never seen something in.
The motherfuckers proud to break the law.
And the shit be so funny because you just broke the law on the internet.
You can literally go to jail whenever the fuck these people feel like taking you.
And they leave the shit.
Just like the nigga just broken that fucking gun stuff.
stole all them fucking guns.
Just how they get caught.
Posting pictures on the motherfucking Instagram.
They didn't catch that out on Instagram.
That's crazy.
Right.
Take a nigga phone from.
Somebody got to see it.
Take a phone from.
Boy, eh.
They got to see it.
Nigech got down.
Nigetcha made a little play.
You gotta post the money.
Boy, got to.
And the dope.
Before you even take the money back to the nigga who gave you this shit,
it's first play.
It's on the story, right.
It's on the store.
He ain't made that for $300 all this jug.
Look, that's $15,000 at your money.
Look that man, his shit back.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit up is on, ain't.
Yeah, you all, man.
Acting like a nigga ain't never had that shit.
No, I can't say that, because I used to be the same goddamn way, though.
Y'all are y'all, nigg, do y'all thing until you get tied up.
Yeah, because you took that shit way too far.
Yeah, I used to do all kinds of shit.
You don't remember when this nigga burned a hundred thousand on the internet?
Don't remember when this nigga burned a hundred thousand on the internet?
Don't for the recession.
100,000 on side, man.
Man, burn that shit up, man.
Hey, got this shit, man.
You don't remember this shit, nils?
Hey, hey.
You don't remember this shit?
No.
That before the recession.
No, man, hold on.
That shit was like Tony still then, bro.
That motherfucker had to turn his phone off.
That shit was on world stuff.
I probably, but, hey, man, I can't remember everything.
But, hold on.
You burned it.
It took 100K.
K.
K.
It said it on fine.
He said it on fine, man.
I called the nigga, I was like, bro, what the fuck is you doing?
I was sad after.
What, what you...
Why did you do that?
You wanted to be sad?
Hell no, I ain't want to be sad.
He did that shit.
I don't know what, man.
What made you do that shit?
Hey man.
That nigga, we're young cow, man.
You had it.
You had it.
Yeah, nigg would get money.
Fuck it.
Yeah, we get money.
Actually, that shit had...
The whole thing came from a jug.
For real.
And then, nigga, was just like,
nigga, fuck that shit, burn that shit.
It was game at first.
You burn that shit, nigga.
You know what I'm saying, nigga?
All right, nigga, you burn your part through.
You burn your part, burn out, nigga.
I remember.
No, you burn 10.
Why burn 10 too then, nigga?
Yeah, I'm going, all right, I got my team.
Burn all this shit, dude, fuck it all up.
Burn it down, nigga.
You know how that, you know what I'm saying?
That's how to be in the hood.
That's how to hype you up in the hood.
You know what I'm saying?
Do that shit.
Hey, niggie, got down, did that shit.
And then the recession hit a year later.
I don't forget this shit, bro.
I will never forget this shit, bro.
But you know it's great.
That's the same shit he told me when I asked him.
He said, the money was evil.
I was like, yeah, he didn't lost it, nothing.
Yeah.
Niggins of the money was evil, low trust me.
I was like, okay, huh, ain't.
Yeah.
Making sure you're right, nigga.
$100,000.
Man, it's new faces, you probably pulled that shit up.
It's still online, bro.
Yeah, ooh, yeah.
I didn't know a lot of wild shit, bro.
I'm glad.
I promise, I'm glad we had no internet.
I promise.
I'm glad we had an internet.
Hold up, man.
Since we're talking about the internet,
y'all was on the early download shit,
the ringtone shit.
Yeah, we're the first nigga go plet my ringtones.
Oh, come on.
Very fresh.
Back when you had to pay for that bitch, jamster.
Yeah, too.
There was back when niggas weren't getting in your business with the ringtone.
See, we caught this shit when niggins weren't getting in your bill.
I think us a comedian was the first niggins to do a million on ringtones.
Yeah.
Because they were separate from the...
Yeah, it was separate from the label.
It was just a whole other different thing.
You know what I'm saying?
The niggins was just getting money.
She was dropping, bro.
This was ringtone for $5, man.
Yeah.
499.
Yeah.
Probably making like $2 for a ringtone.
$1.12.
of rain talk.
Damn.
You know what I'm saying?
Then bitch stopped calling me with motherfucking everybody shit.
Oh yeah.
Bitch start calling me with everybody rain talk.
Bitch start calling me.
Ain't gonna pick the phone up.
Come on, man.
Y'all just sold that...
Nah, for real, for real, though.
Platting them off a rain tone.
Yeah, yeah.
Then we sold all the album before the internet, too.
You had to, you got them gonna get it.
Physical copy.
It's $20 CD.
Oh, that's.
Oh.
Thanks.
20.
Man, y'all came right into the sweet spot.
Mm-hmm.
Show them did, daw.
Y'all just making me think about this shit now.
We fucked up some shit.
God damn, take me back.
But take me back, Paul.
On 106 and Paul is when it meant so.
Yeah, dog.
We smoked out Jay Leno.
Jay Leno had to come get us.
What?
Yeah.
I think he liked to be around to smell a weed, though.
They told us to put the weed out, like, twice.
But we just kept fucking smoking this shit, bro.
And Jay Leno came in there and said, hey, man, y'all gonna have to, y'all, y'all gonna have to go outside with that.
We can smell that shit way in front of.
I promise.
But see, I haven't fucked up, cause Wayne and Snoop fucked me up.
Because they were smoking there or what?
No, I...
I've been saying Snoot do the shit, right?
Right.
You know what I'm see? No, Snoop.
It snook smoker everywhere.
Wherever Snoop Snoop smoked.
But we was on tour.
And then I seen Lou Wayne get off the bus and walk to the stage.
And all the police was in the escrowing them.
And that niggas was smoking the big ass blunt.
And them niggas wasn't saying shit.
And that moment right there made me say,
oh, fuck that shit, I could do the same thing.
So I fired me a blunt up.
And they ain't seen that.
And shit.
They were up.
I just, I felt like, shit, if Snoot, Nick, and Wayne could do it, I could do it.
But we weren't near as big as them,
but that's just something.
My mind process was like, shit,
you know, fuck that, they can do it,
I could do this shit too.
So we should be fine the weed up, bro.
Labor had to buy a cologne,
because then, you know, that was after the shit happened,
so you couldn't fly,
you couldn't fly with a whole bunch of liquid.
So when we would go through promo runs and shit,
the labor would say, okay, I'm gonna buy y'all some cologne
for y'all to spray.
And we used to be so difficult,
we used to be like, hell, not with my own cologne.
So we used to make them.
them buy four bottles of cologne every time we went somewhere.
We used to be like, hey, man, trying to smell like low hell.
Now, I want some of this.
So they had to do that shit.
We used that shit one time while we're there, and then we got to throw the ball away.
We were difficult, bro.
You was niggas.
We were niggas, like niggas.
I'll tell you, I know this.
You know what I'm saying?
The lack of knowledge and lack of, you know, having somebody to help us understand that shit,
did a lot.
It hurt us a lot, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Shows, all kind of shit, I don't feel like going on a day.
Damn.
There ain't no, no show.
Fuck the money.
Fuck the money.
Niggi didn't understand, bro.
Shit, bro.
Shit, it's me.
I wish I, like I said, take me back.
Take you back.
Then we would drop.
No, crease, no star.
Oh, yeah, that's it.
That's it, that's it right there, yeah.
That's the one we should have done, why we didn't hear boys.
There's, no, no, star.
No star.
Go creed on.
Listen, man, man, listen, I swear.
Listen, every time music came on, man, these niggas, you just start freestyle.
The same shit is, that's why I, that's why when I see you y'all doing that shit, I should be smiling, dogs.
I'd be like, man, my d' dick a bit doing that shit, though.
Just naturally.
We used to ride around, do it.
We used to be in a lack.
They ride all the way from God down, Cobb to the goddamn east side sometimes.
They kept in the motherfucker.
Man, I'm about to eat everything.
everything. He shouldn't have brought me.
There wasn't enough shit over there to
to eat, my nigga.
Shit in the brook, don't shit. I want some of them
bitchies, man. Hey, what you're talking about, man?
Ah, for real, the blade motherfucker.
They're the clashing motherfuckers. See, I get them bitch
put hot sauce on.
You got it.
You know what I'm saying?
Get it put hot sauce on.
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No, let me ask y'allie.
This question the little really for everybody in this bitch.
Okay.
I'm listening.
I'm going to grab me some chips.
They're going to let me know what a nigga from, for real.
What type of hot sauce?
Yeah, see you.
You know that Louisiana?
Louisiana.
Oh, that crystal.
That's the number one hot sauce in money.
What's black people?
Louisville?
Y'all, y'all didn't eat hot sauce, bro.
What's you want?
What's you on?
Red bull.
Oh, okay.
That bull.
Why shit is me?
Man, I don't give a damn.
That's what I, that's what it was.
You know what I'm saying?
Red hot?
Mm-hmm.
Red, fuck, they're really hot too?
The one with the dot.
The one with the hot sauce you like.
Don't go like a hot sauce.
Don't fuck with a hot sauce.
Mm-mm.
I'm black, girl.
I got some at the house.
You put sugar on your rice?
You got some tech...
Hell, yeah.
Put sugar on your grits?
Yeah.
I got sugar on my grill.
You forgot a zip.
Texas.
I like Texas Pete, though, too.
Louisiana.
Mm-hmm.
The red, with the red boy, you said.
I remember that.
Would you put hot sauce on?
Nothing.
Really?
You just told me you don't eat hot sauce on.
What you put hot sauce on?
Chicken.
Some seafood, shit.
Some seafood.
You put hot sauce on seafood, too?
Like fried.
Like fried?
There's some fish or some shit?
Oh, you should put the hot sauce in anything to fry?
No, not necessarily.
No necessarily.
Yeah.
I got a few.
And then that tiger sauce, but that ain't really hot sauce.
The tiger sauce would be going.
What that is?
It's like it's a little sweet of some shit, but it's good.
It's in the high sauce out.
It's like the chili sauce.
Greens, cornbread, cabbage.
Cabbage.
That go on there?
Yeah, yeah.
Chips.
Mm-hmm.
All plain chips.
All plain chips.
You're real hood if you put it on popcorn.
Got to put that on popcorn.
It definitely go on greens, like you said.
You got to put it on popcorn, too.
Yeah, popcorn go.
Shug it up in the bag.
Sugar Kool-Aid, dip your finger in.
The motherfuck you, you're trapped, don't bitch.
No, I'm gonna have any one.
Yes, sir.
We got Kool-Aid in the trap.
How do you make your Kool-Aid, bro?
I put, um...
I put the sugar in first.
Okay.
All right.
How many packs?
Then I had the water.
Three.
Who put three packs?
You put, who all put three packs?
You put, who all put three packs of motherfucking Koolay in that shit?
Yeah?
I'm one and a half.
This is how you make it taste like Hawaiian punch.
I'm one and a half and one half is always lemonade.
I only know two, bro.
I don't know three.
Nope.
See, y'all don't know how to...
I got a gallon-sized picture, though.
I make my Kool-Aid in a gallon.
Y'all don't be trying.
Y'all only make them, you know what I'm saying?
A little quartz.
Two quarts.
Mm.
Y'all got a small picture.
Small picture.
Hot water, cold water.
Cold water.
I'm telling you, buddy.
Hot water, bro.
How the fuck you're going to drink?
But this is a real game right here since we're talking about it.
I mean, unless it's grape, I feel like grape need a little warm.
Then when you put it in the freezer, it'd be really great for somebody.
You've got to let it get a little thin layer.
ice on it before you even start drinking it.
I can't drink purple cool, like it.
I got it, it got to be froze.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That cup going in the freezer anyway.
Yeah, yeah.
That cup going in the freezer.
That cup, I'm going to get it right.
And I got my mind know when it's slush it.
And you better believe you're going to know ice put them in that deep freeze.
Mm-hmm.
Ooh, quick.
Shit me that motherfucker deep free.
What?
Nah, niggas start trapping.
That's the first, that's the first thing you start trapping as a young nigga.
Yeah.
Frozen cup.
Yeah.
The white cups?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, you just pop that motherfuck out,
flip it upside down.
If you don't know how to eat that bitch.
A little styrofoam cup.
Yeah.
If you try to peer the styrofoam now, you don't know how to eat it.
Real, no.
You got to squeeze that.
Pop that bitch out.
Yeah.
Now you can eat this bitch.
Now you get this bitch.
Now you're really thugging.
Yeah, you thugging like that.
How much, 50's it?
Quarter.
Yeah, quarter.
Easy.
And they're going to be clicking.
They're going to be addicted.
Yeah, it is.
And they're going to go in there all the change
out your grandma flow, everything in the car on the car flow.
Everywhere.
Little boy came to our house so early, we wasn't even out there yet one time.
Hey man.
That's the, none of y'all them said that, that's what taught me how to count money.
Because you know, when you're a kid, you don't understand how to count money.
So all you know is you need a quarter.
You ain't know that two dams in a nickel would get you the same shit.
So then, you just thought you need to quote.
Once you figured that out, it's all it is.
It's over with.
Amen.
We didn't never get them back, boy.
You take a dollar goes to the stove.
You come back, everything.
Honeyvine, quarter juices, fruities, chips.
Going to the carrot house was way better than going to the stoves.
Always.
She opened their goddamn frieze up and you see all the different variations.
And you're just standing there.
She's like, come on, got damn, hurry up.
Come on now.
Don't stand that with my frieze on.
And she got colors.
You don't know what to pick.
You ain't never even seen them.
pink lemonade.
She just, she only even make pink lemonade on the table.
And every candy lady got a name.
Our canada with me, Boo.
Mithelma.
A boo.
Yeah.
That's boo.
Miffelma sound like a candle lady.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Had the ice cream in the freeze cups in the freeze puck.
It's way back.
He's viewed project day.
Mitt Thelma always been the candelady, though.
And the bubble gone ropes.
Then miss soup.
Six and six a cent.
Six and six a cent.
The lawn motherfucker.
Oh man.
The tape, the coffee table full of the snicker bars and twigs and wretched cups.
Like the store.
Lay it out.
Lay it out, dog.
As a kid on the wall, as a kid that you just wonder how they can be like,
how they be living there with all of them candy bars.
Me too.
You don't even fucking candy.
I ain't lie.
Milky Way.
Everything.
Three musketes.
They didn't want them to...
What the fuck happened to milk away?
Do they still stare at them, bitches?
Yep.
Yeah.
I don't know if anybody buy them.
Zero, that shit crazy.
Remember when the big candy bar was 50 cent.
And what you're gonna call it?
Yeah.
Sir, remember search?
The soda?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Remember the white Pepsi?
The clear one?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That blue one was some bullshit now.
Yeah, he was.
That blue one was some.
The blue one was real bullshit.
Yeah, that shit was trashed, boy.
You remember that clear of Canadian water that was flavor?
Well, that shit was good as fuck.
Yeah, with the little cherry on it or whatever.
That's just to be good as fuck.
Those of them times your grandma used to keep the butterscotts in the goddamn good thing.
Yeah, well, he had to look at the little strawberry candy.
That shit's as good as fuck.
I didn't know they was as good as that motherfuckers are, dog.
Your grandma gave to you and I used to just be like, I don't want this, grandma.
And then one day I just got hungry enough and ate that bitch.
I said, this bitch got juice in it.
in it?
These bids got juice in it?
What the fuck?
Them bitches busts.
I was so mad.
I had ate all the other what she had been giving me.
And then butterscotch, like you said, that shit is them, uh, them creamy ones.
Or them, soft pepper, man's.
Those ones in their yellow wrapper?
Yeah.
Call me crazy, but I always had a theory.
That's what good pussy tastes like.
What, butterscotch?
And them yellow wrappers?
Oh look, that's something like that.
You got a hell of a taste bud, buddy.
You hope it tastes like brothers guys, nigger.
More than that shit gonna taste like, like scotch, nigger.
That shit was good, though.
What the fuck was up with the fruit bashes, though?
What you mean?
Everybody grandma had the fake fruit baths.
If it went on a table, it was on top of a refrigerator.
That's to let you know that she was in the church.
Don't that mean?
Like the last something.
Yeah, like the last something.
No, that mean, for real?
Yeah.
I never knew why they had this shit.
You never said no.
Everybody has a fake fruit.
Yeah.
By some damn magnets or little appliances.
Every time you got pots.
Your grandma had the candles on the table
that she ain't never liked.
Hey, yeah.
Big-a-counter.
You better like them.
You better not like them.
Hell no.
You never know about the plastic on the sofa.
But you better not move that plastic.
The little carpet run?
never get in trouble for leaving the cordless phone
off the choice.
With the little spikes.
You're gonna go through the whole house.
You're gonna go through the whole house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you better pick that bitch up when you sweep.
Yeah.
How ya sweep it?
You can't sweep over that.
Remember when the coil is phoned that?
What?
Just being in the mid-conversation,
that bitch beat three times and won't come back on.
Go with it.
Done.
Hold off and go to the downstairs phone.
Hey, hang the phone over stairs.
What?
What?
There's a time right there, bro.
I ain't lying.
Get up still.
Hang the phone up.
Hang the phone up.
I got it.
I got it.
Oh, you're here.
Right.
But this is really like, boy, back in the dead.
Somebody, baby, knocked the phone number and pick that bitch up, just be pressing all the numbers.
He should be pressing all the buttons.
Hey, hang it up.
Everybody.
Oh, that's super long cord.
Oh, that super long cord.
over the whole house.
The one that got bunched up, the only way to untangle it is the walk farm.
You just had to keep walking to that bitch started unraveling right.
You're on the kitchen phone in the shower.
They're the kitchen phone, the bed phone, the kitchen phone the bed phone.
The kitchen phone is made it happen, bro.
The washing and dry went in the sink in the kitchen.
Yeah.
The drain was the sink.
Yeah.
But that's what I'm saying, bro.
Niggers ain't, yeah.
Niggas go through it, bro.
But we're living in the future.
You remember how bad you would.
You wanted to see it, look at the motherfucker
why you was on the phone.
Damn, I wish I could see it.
Now, motherfucking face-n't.
Bitch, don't you ever face-tying me.
Yeah, what kind of weird shit is you want?
Don't do that.
No, I'm gonna tell you the worst.
When the niggins number, you don't got to say
you try to fay-time you.
Oh, yeah.
Hell yeah.
What's you doing?
What the fuck is you?
Don't ever do that.
Let's be disgusted.
I don't want to see you anyway.
You don't have some...
Why?
You ever have some by the car?
You said, hey, I'm about to FaceTime you right quick.
No, the fucking...
You're not.
I really hate answers this call.
I ain't agree to that.
Answer this FaceTime.
No.
Oh, so you ain't gonna answer it?
I told you, I wasn't.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You know what it be, though?
It'd be somebody that they want to see you.
Like, hey, look, here go.
Hey, I told you I know...
Man, if you don't get off this goddamn phone.
goddamn phone.
You got, you hate them, but you love them at the same time.
You love me.
They mean well.
You love them.
They mean well.
And they just been talking about you so much.
They're gonna go goddamn bag.
They want the niggins see your head yet.
Oh, hit your ass back to back to back.
Hey, but hit me real quick.
No.
Hey.
My name nigga ain't hit me the other day.
Shit, it's talking to my partner.
Carlos Miller.
I'm like, man, who the fuck is you telling my old name to?
Oh, damn, too.
I hit you back.
Fuck that.
Mm-mm.
Yeah, he called me.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Hey, man.
I know you.
You don't roll two, three,
you know, I need to roll one more.
You got one on and fire that shit up.
I'm hungry, man.
She's a fucking dog.
I'm right back in home.
It's just chips, man.
These bitch is bustling.
What's your favorite snack?
Chips.
Chips?
Chips.
I'm a chips and sandwich type, nigga.
I can eat that the rest of my life.
Favorite time?
What's your favorite sandwich?
What's your favorite sandwich?
They got them turkey.
How you, you make it yourself?
What you do?
Turkey and ham, that's right there together.
Like that ham?
Mm-hmm.
What kind of bread?
Potato bread.
Yeah, man.
You're a sandwich-type nigga.
I fuck with that potato bread.
You eat potato bread?
Yeah, yeah.
You still get wheat bread, man.
No, nigga, I'm in that brioche, name.
Brioz.
I'm on that brioch, me.
See, I was on that.
See, my wife put me on this shit, right?
Mm-hmm.
Then she put me on the potato.
Potato better.
What?
Salad dough hit, too.
Okay.
But see that, the potatoes like in the middle.
Where it gives you, like, the bread, where they get you the soft.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
It's almost like something.
You ever tried the motherfucking Hawaiian roll, got them bread?
Yes, sir.
Yeah, the bun.
They got for them?
They got the lowest, the slices.
Oh, I had that, not.
Yeah, I had that.
You don't be getting high enough, bro.
No, ain't.
See, get high as you can, just going to grocery stores and just walk and just look at shit.
I do that, but I don't went the last few times, and I look for Hawaiian rolls.
I ain't see them bitches nowhere.
I don't know.
what the fuck going on?
And I asked somebody
and they was like
it's over by the bread
and I was like
no the fuck it ain't
and I ain't seen it
I've been looking for it
specifically because I wanted
you know you can't go to public
without grabbing some of them bitches
like.
But why ain't rose too good?
The motherfucker good as hell dog.
I ain't seen them bitch
Oh no shit my guy
listen man
put you up on game
my wife's a knicker
with the motherfuckers
turkey and them bitches
yeah
put their hunting sauce on the motherfucker
boy
about eat a whole pan
them bitch
I ain't lying
I believe.
I'm gonna fuck good, dog.
I fuck with it, yeah.
Listen, when you first started getting hired,
did anybody ever got down shit got super high and grocery stores and tried all the fruit?
Like, piece by piece?
Yeah, she's like, eat the dog.
Speaking of that.
They had my boy tried everything back in the day, goddamn.
No, but I did get, I was high one time at the grocery stuff and bought a sandwich earlier.
You know, the sandwich right there as soon as you come in.
Hey, that bitch.
Ain't half of that bitch where I even got you to the rest.
My home boy used to go to that bitch and eat that bitch before he get out.
That nigga get a six inch and run in that bitch and go down with the eyes and eat that bitch on the shit out and leave.
He's a bad butterfly.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a real savage.
Yeah.
He's a real savage.
Yeah.
He needs to be off the street.
I don't want him a month, sir.
I'm talking about order that bitch exactly how he wanted it too.
All that shit.
Who got the best sucks?
Out of grocery stores.
Publis.
Publis.
Easily.
Publicics, okay, I like the sandwiches they got in New York
if I'm in another place that ain't got no publics.
Like from one of them bodegas, when they do that shit,
that shit be slapping.
Because them nigga be specializing out of that shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, and the closest I feel like we got down ahead
to that shit is like Publis.
I don't know where else is going, really.
Yeah.
What a little girl crook for?
The best sandwich in New York is when you get it from.
That meat that you gotta eat immediately, Nick.
You gotta eat that meat fast, boy.
When you get it from one of your delis,
they act like they don't want to make the sandwich.
Oh, yeah.
Would be having attitude?
They'd be looking at you standing down there.
Who make the sandwich?
What kind of meat you want?
What's you want?
What you want?
That'd be dry hair like that, too.
Male.
Let it.
Tammal.
No, Tamm.
All right.
All right.
What else?
Oh, man.
Nigger, you was too angry.
I didn't tell you to make these sandwiches, bro.
Hey man, tell me about in departments.
Come on.
In department with Palais.
I started doing the podcast.
I was doing OG talk.
One of the reason I started doing the podcast shit.
But like I said, I got tired of goddamn,
think-ass niggas saying real shit.
Saying real shit.
And you got a lot of stories too.
You know what I'm saying?
A lot of experience.
For real.
And you know the goddamn city and I feel like every time you bring out stories that I don't think
nobody else could get out of motherfuckers.
I just think that comes with a level of respect.
Like, I just feel like now for real, I'm just getting, getting back all the shit I don't put in all these years.
You know what I'm saying?
Being a real nigga ain't popular.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't get pass on the back.
You don't got them get the car holes for this.
You don't get to that.
And every time you see your nigga, like, boy, you're the realest nigger.
Right.
So it'd be hard to got them stay solid with niggas and you keep staying solid.
You see what I'm saying?
But I just think niggas got to find their way.
And now all the shit out on did, me staying solid.
Name ain't ain't any no bullshit.
Now Polly did and did that.
Niggas respect me.
And now, niggas respect my craft.
So now when I hit, like, pull up,
like, yeah, I can't wait, pull up on you.
And I feel like niggas talk to me because we talk, we understand the same shit.
Nika know I'm from where they're from.
So it's comfortable talking to me.
Right.
You see what I'm saying?
So that's why I feel like niggas, you know what I'm saying, be, really be talking to me for real.
That's the only thing I can understand.
Are you having fun with it, man?
Yeah, you don't definitely having fun.
I enjoy this shit, though.
You know what I enjoy.
I mean, it's like, like you said, I knew you as you were growing into this person.
Yeah.
Like, I know you, you ain't really no nigger that was about no talking.
No.
So it's like to see you on there talking and enjoying this shit, it's just, it's a whole different world.
Because I don't found the lane, you know what I'm saying?
I just don't found, I don't found the lane.
And I get a chance to do what I want to do, you know what I'm saying, without making it hard.
So I'm saying.
Which talk about my city, you know what I'm saying?
You still got a lot of shit about you to talk about.
Yeah, man, it's going to, it's going to come.
That's why I say, shit, it ain't going, it's going to, it's going to keep.
They're gonna keep coming.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like you said earlier, they don't know the, they don't know a lot of this.
They don't know it.
So that's why I like, a lot of my interviews, a lot of people really be talking about a lot of these situations.
You see what I'm saying?
But I get a chance to educate niggas.
You know what I'm saying?
I get a chance to put niggins on game.
I get a chance to talk about my seat in the real way.
Yeah, then you survive through a lot of shit for a reason, man.
And if in 10, but if you don't put, if you don't write the history, but these niggas put you out of it, bro.
put you out of it, bro.
You see what I'm saying?
Right now, Alana ain't what Alana.
Don't nobody know what Alana really is right now
because nobody really experienced
real Alano before everything became everything,
everything, everything, everything now.
The niggas on the east side, the same thing
on the west side.
The same on the side, the same on the side.
Everybody's the same, everybody got the same guns,
drive the same car, got the same chains,
the same Rolex watches, everybody getting the same money.
See, back then it wasn't like that.
So me understanding, chance, you know,
tell the nigga how shit used to be
And sharing these got their stories about the city,
I feel like that's one of the things I want to do.
You know what I'm saying?
And then I be happy.
It's like you got to see it from both perspectives.
You have to.
From the west side, you know, coming up from the hood,
then from, you know, a celebrity entertainment, saying.
And then I give you a side too from the street aspect
and then the musical aspect too.
Because I don't reach, I don't reach heights that
you don't reach in neither.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm still here to tell the story.
Like this my, hey, appreciate the big dog.
I'm gonna just tell, I'm gonna put all this.
Hey, don't do this.
Hey, don't be doing this.
I'm just, you know, I'm gonna get a game.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's why they have lawyers and politicians
and real estate agents.
I don't just do just rap rappers.
You know what I'm saying?
And same things and stuff.
I'm doing whoever, you know what I'm saying?
Because everybody got a message.
And I feel like podcasts are like new books
because don't know about read.
But niggas get on YouTube and watch a hundred episodes.
Yeah, that's real, that's real.
So you just gotta feed them the information.
some type of way.
You know what I'm saying?
We're gonna reach them one way of the other.
Thanks.
You're gonna reach one way.
And it's kind of what you said,
when you said you, one of your favorite things to do
would come back and tell the people about the shit you just got through doing.
Even when you came to hood and came back and told them to him.
They probably got me, they probably got me ready to do shit.
Yeah.
You're doing the music and shit.
That's the shit that got you out the hood.
It took you around the world.
Well, you remember where your first international slot was
when you got to go perform on some rap shit out the country.
Our first place went to was Germany.
Now that's a whole different monster.
Don't nobody speak English, but the only thing they play is American music and they sang every lyric.
They know it all.
Every lyric, the way you go to a German club, if you wake up in a German club,
and then you're gonna thank you in the United States of America, to the music stop.
Right.
And you asked somebody something like, what the hell was you doing if you woke up in a German club?
Why the fuck would you do that?
You went to sleep in Atlanta, you wake up.
In the lima.
What the fuck?
They don't be talking like that, bro.
They be singing that shit.
When you perform, they're singing this shit.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I think they like me.
They're singing this shit.
You know the crazy thing about Germany though?
They don't have nothing that you asked for.
They got some shit that's almost kind of sort of damn nil.
And you like, remind you of the shit that you asked for.
He's lying.
He's lying.
And it's boring this bitch over now.
I had ordered some steak and I asked for some steak sauce, right?
What they, yeah, yeah?
Right, it wasn't A1.
It was damn near A2.
That shit, man, that shit was about,
that shit was about damn near this close to almost sort of
reminded me of what I was asking them for.
I was like, I see where y'all was going with this shit,
but it's right here.
head.
Channel 85.com, go get the app.
You got an hour for free.
We gave you what you wanted.
Now give us some subscriptions to the app.
$8.50, $8.99 with tax, $85 a year.
Channel 85.com, 85 social.
Get the app.
See, this is what they don't know.
The app really $3, but adjusted for inflation is $8.9.
Yeah.
Well, Losey.
Get the app, man.
Stop bullshin.
We out of here, man.
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