The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Polow da Don | BET Awards 2024 | Karlous Miller & Navv Greene
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podcast welcome back to the 85 south show we are here at the bt awards 24 and i'm only talking to
the interesting entertaining we're a renowned superstars amongst us today man this is one of the
coldest producers that ever come up
out of anything that needed
to be produced that made some of the
most dirty South classics
from all across the board. You have
made shit if you ain't never had one
from Polo to Doc. Come on now.
What's had it? It was having the home team. It was good.
It's an honor to be here, man.
Man.
A long time coming, man.
You stay busy.
You represent the South Soulville.
How you been, man? I've been great, man.
Like, living life, man.
I actually took the time out, took a little break.
To enjoy the fruits of my label, man.
I ain't going to lie.
Because I put work in, and when I was, like, really just going super crazy,
I didn't do nothing else.
I lived at the studio.
If you wanted to see me, you had to come to the studio, period.
Like, I would do three days, studio straight, go home, sleep one day,
then three more days, so it was three and one.
So I lived that life for, like, 15 years, for real.
Damn.
And so when Kobe passed, you know, he was my favorite basketball player, right?
And when Kobe passed, I said, damn, man.
He dedicated his whole life to basketball,
and he didn't really get to enjoy all the money he made he really didn't get to enjoy his
daughters his wife but so forth and so on so at that moment you know COVID had hit around the
same time so the game stopped for a minute so it just gave me a chance to start going home
and I was like you know what that's kind of cool dang what's up my brother what's over my sister
my parents but so I just started living life and so um and I felt like music was just in this place
and doing his own thing and um I would just always mentor so people called me to get things done
business, fixed beasts, relationships, so forth and so on,
how to get a new artist popping, how to bring an old artist back to relevancy.
And then I finally met a new generation of artists that really motivated me.
Who was in that generation?
Pop Lloyd, my boy Yaki, he going crazy on writing.
He just started his own label.
So I just did a deal with him to get him his own label deal because he wanted
of the niggas in the city that's really like been putting it down forever.
And so I just thought, man, you help so many people
once you just start your own company
because he also helped me, like, build a lot of things
of my company throughout the years.
And so to start his own production company
and publishing company,
Marini, who I brought here with me.
She's just been over there chilling
on some Southwest Atlanta shit, man.
You feel me?
Yeah, juicy two times.
My boy, A.T.L. Jacob.
I'm so inspired by him, man, because he's so young.
And I remember when he was 16, just running around.
trying to figure it out but I feel like he brings a different sound out of the
hey he he true ATL but he bring a different sound um so you know just people like
that anybody else who's trying to build like even the Mike wheels who's had a crazy
run who um just bought half the block you know what I'm saying it's going down big you feel
me so I'm just so man I'm just so pro us um they don't make no sense man so I want to
ask you this you say you do three days in the studio what's your process like at this point
15 years in the game
and you was doing this three days on
one day off for the loan so
what's the process now because you said
so it's crazy at this point
yeah it was crazy
um I was totally like kind of out of the studio
I just pull up and see what's going on and just like
you know touch things up or change this
another like you know executive produce
um and in the last
couple months um especially like I said the last
month I only slept in my bed twice
just because um I knew we wanted to come out for
BET weekend and I wanted to present her um so we started out by kind of like
working out because I always like to see like with a person made of when we
work out like when you hit that uh when you hit that wall that threshold I want to
see how you respond you know what I'm saying you gonna stop you gonna cry you know
she obviously younger to me right so she should be able to whip my ass when to
you see how slim she is right I do be beating you though you let him trick you
already know what time I'm on Gadifay you know who won so you know I'm just
right everything everything everything so so guess what so guess what she coming up
talking about she injured all the type of it whatever but now you injured no you know what I was
I was really injured because I beat him running up a hill you see you ain't left that part out
right because it's cap oh it ain't cap it's cap but my point is man like but she got
Gadifah to vouch for us man cadifah you don't just be vouching on my horse so you know he
You know, he got some type of vengeance against me, man.
I can see that.
He don't even show up no more by the way.
You know what I'm saying?
He don't show up no by the way.
He's too busy.
That's the hardest working dude.
But he got more money he ever had.
So I used to take his money when he didn't really have no money.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, but we were both coming up.
You know what I'm saying?
Wow.
So, you know what I'm saying?
But now since we got that check, you know what I'm saying?
He's like, you know what I got family.
I got responsibilities now.
You know what I'm saying?
He ain't telling the truth about nothing.
Man, delete all this footage and start over, man.
Please do.
Put out the truth on this network.
Man, anybody in the A, no, they can see, man.
They know what time is going out, like on the dice, on the bowling,
ping pong with jump shots.
No, but that just goes to show what type of person you are
because you're very diverse when it comes to the music, bro.
Do you have a favorite genre at this point?
You didn't cross over all of them.
Yeah, real, real shit.
You don't make pop, hip-hop, R&B, country.
Country.
Like, what's your shit now?
Or is it just spur of the moment?
You know what I'm saying?
It's like women.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like...
You're about to fuck.
You're going to say some crazy shit.
No, it's like when you thought you'd make the most beautiful one,
all right?
Let's go on IG, right?
When you're going through girls or whatever, right?
You thought you'd see them all.
And all of a sudden, you see one.
And it takes you to a whole new world.
Like, God damn, why do you motherfuck up from?
And it's music the same way.
As you go through the journey of music,
especially when you start to travel.
And then if you understand the essence of music,
which is soul, which is...
which is, you know, us, right?
You started to be like, damn, this shit is Spanish,
but this shit African, too.
Man, I just saw some dudes in India that was rapping their ass off.
I don't know what they was rapping about,
but whatever he was saying, I believe it.
That's what I'm saying.
So it's about that feel, about that connection.
And so music for me is the same way.
So as a producer, obviously you run across all type of musicians and writers
and so forth and so on.
And one day somebody might come in and do a country,
he'd be like, man, I don't really
fuck with a country like that, but that shit hard.
You know what I'm saying?
And then he'd be like, man, you got to check my partner out.
You got to chip my partner out.
Then you just go into a whole new world
just like when you're on IG with the girls
and you go to a whole new world of, you know, like, talent.
Yeah.
And people who do things that you don't do.
But as a fan of music, you know,
it just pulls you in, you know,
and you just don't be a hater.
And you can, man, be wealthy, for real.
Let me ask you this.
I know a lot of young producers run up to you
and hang you hard,
and shit, I'm sure you're still getting CDs at this point.
No doubt.
Like, but you're one of them ones is like, when a young producer plays you some of his music,
does it necessarily have to be a hit right then, or can you hear, like, this ain't the best shit,
but you've got something.
Absolutely.
Almost everything that was super dope in my career started out that way, you know what I'm saying?
I would say, like, that probably is my gift, just like not being a hater, being open, you know what I'm saying?
I got billionaire friends and crackhead friends.
No, straight up.
I got homeless partners.
You know what I'm saying?
I got billionaires partners.
And once you realize that we are more the same than we are, you know, different,
I think that's kind of like with music, when you make something special,
it brings all different types of people together.
So guess what?
Think about even somebody like a little baby, right?
Before, that would have never been considered to be something different than only than a local sound, right?
But then he blew up globally.
You feel what I'm saying?
And nobody saw that company coming.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just feel like if it got feel to it, it got connection.
And that's why I always try to teach new artists.
Man, let me hear your story.
Forget everything you heard.
Forget everything you like you're inspired by.
That's great.
Let me just see what you coming from.
Because what you have is something nobody else has.
And if you can tap into that and then we can put that on a platform, a wide spectrum,
then we got some special.
They got to come to you to get that.
Do you feel like a lot of the young producers be?
more chasing the hit than the actual.
Of course. Because, you know,
because ultimately, like, you know,
there's money involved, right? So
when we all trying to change our lives
and come out of a place of desperation,
that's why I think
the ones who are truly remembered
are the ones who really, like,
approach it, like,
and took the art series.
You know what I'm saying? And that goes with anything.
You know, I think that's where it separates Michael Jordan
from anybody. Like, Michael Jordan
give an interview at 55 years old,
and he's breakdown in tears.
About the game.
You know what I'm saying?
Because the game is sacred to him.
And the art of the game is sacred to him.
And so that same thing goes for music.
Anybody who's like, who take this art from a point of like indulging themselves in it wholeheartedly,
I think it's just a different thing.
And those are the ones who we feel.
We know that's James Brown.
We know that's Michael Jackson.
We know what I'm saying?
We know like when Chris Brown, right, we just feel them.
That's it.
You know what I'm saying?
It might not even be the best song.
that we feel them.
That's it.
Two part might not be the best lyricist.
We feel them.
We make something better than somebody
who got a thousand words,
two bars.
You feel me?
And that's what this shit
come down to.
Like, can you connect?
You know what I'm saying?
And so, yeah.
Like, I can literally sit here and ask you
a million questions, bro.
We got a lot of catching up to do.
So I definitely got to catch you back.
And guess what?
And 85 South, man, y'all so hard, man.
We appreciate that.
I really respect what y'all boys doing.
How y'all did it like nobody else has done.
It's an original.
concept um and as your boy man DC man it's crazy I was like the first person to ever pay him
to do a stand-up now this is what I was about to ask you because before we started
shaka zulu was tip man I did all the shit for follow so look I wanted to ask you like to have
like you said he invested in you early man what does that look like what did that what was
that opportunity for you that was created with you and your friends just let me even be around
to soak up the game you know what I'm saying shocker was a a college radio station
and DJ when I met him.
You know what I'm saying?
That's how early in the game it was.
And I knew Ludacris, we was just both
hanging around in A. And Atlanta, the scene
wasn't even, like, really that big yet.
So the people that were trying to, like, just get
on and do this music thing, you would
see the same people over and over and over again.
And Shaka was just somebody who was, like,
already considered to be, like, smart,
executive base, and
somebody who would make things happen. So he would
introduce us to a lot of people. And then he was
on the radio, but like I said, but at college radio.
So eventually he went to hot, you know what I'm saying?
He got on the first real hip hop station.
Not V, no disrespect to V.
I love V.
I love Reggie.
I love Mike Roberts.
I love the whole history of V.
But they were like, they only had hip hop on Friday nights for Fresh Party.
But Hot was really just catered to hip hop and catered to Atlanta locals.
Like to me, that station really is with the turning point in Atlanta because it was like, you know what?
Who are you?
Man, you popping in in McEnnessville?
What are you popping in in the college park?
Man, pull up.
We're going to put your record on High Rock.
rotation. And so Shaka was a DJ at that station. So man, when I was in 10th grade,
they would play my records. You know what I'm saying? So he just saw me just like just
be an energy when I was a kid to want this shit. You know what I'm saying? And then I
start rapping, start producing. And so going to what he's talking about, pimping all over
the world, which became multi-platinum, runaway love, which became Grammy, a Grammy
award winning record for Ludacris. That was on my first beat take. Both for the
them records and um shock was like i want that record i want that record and he was like this they
both gonna be um ludicrous's singles and this is why ludicrous ludicrous already ludicrous he
already going crazy and he's like we're gonna make both of these singles and with runaway love
i knew that song was special i said y'all can't have this unless it's a single he said nigga
it's gonna be a single and we're gonna make it make it a grammy so we we actually tailored
that record we put um mary j on the record you know everything was intentional because luda just
wanted to break out from being like a um
animated funny type rapper to more like
I can do anything and be taking seriously
as a rapper as a lyricist and so
I will get much love and respect
and honor to my boy Shaka you know what I'm saying
I'm a true product of the city man
man I got your publicist later over there going
crazy man we can literally sit here and do this all day
when you come to the 85 South show I'm gonna have my list
of all your hits and we're going back we're going
we're breaking them all way down man what kind of
hi-hat is that all that let's get it
I might just have to start pulling up to the studio.
I'm definitely a fan of what you do,
and I appreciate you giving me a few minutes of your time to stop here.
BET Awards, 24, man.
Polo de Don, please continue to do what you do,
and we're going to be looking for some shit.
When you get off injury, we're going to be looking for some shit from YouTube.
I'm fully recovered now.
Absolutely.
BT Awards 2024-85 South Show Standing on Culture with Polo to Don.
Yes, sir.
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I'm Ebeney, and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you.
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Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace.
You discover the depths of your mother's illness.
I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the powerful stories
I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets.
We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories.
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it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle.
On Good Mom's Bad Choices,
we're making space to center ourselves with joy, rest, and pleasure.
Take the kids to camp.
You know what? It was expensive.
But I was also thinking,
you have my kid.
This is kind of priceless.
Take her, feed her, make core memories.
I don't have to do anything.
Main thing, I don't have to do anything.
To hear this and more,
listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices.
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