The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - SHERYL UNDERWOOD in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

The 85 South Crew sits down with Sheryl Underwood for another great conversation! || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.comSee omnystud...io.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:46 Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. My mom's south. No, no. Tell him that's the country. He don't know. Yeah, he don't know. It ain't Mississippi. Y'all ain't kept in.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah, y'all have some different motherfaggers. We don't have. Bro, that's how much shit we don't have in Mississippi. If you find an alligator in Mississippi, that means you went somewhere looking for that. Nigger. You walk outside in Florida, and it'd be an alligator on your front port.
Starting point is 00:03:09 We don't, fuck, be in your house. I don't have shit. Everything in Mississippi you got to go fuck with. Say your name again. Carlos Miller. You was just in a little real movie? Yeah. Did you have fun?
Starting point is 00:03:19 Absolutely. I'm acting now. Can I tell you something? I'm a motherfucker I got to. I flew in with him on the plane coming here. Because we're doing Celebrity Fender Field tomorrow. He talks so highly of your performance and who you want. I need you to know that.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I had a ball. I was living all my dreams up. You want to ask? Oh, hell yeah. They're late. I've been trying to get in there with the act of this shit. So. You know how that shit be.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Well, listen. Just like I was talking about it. To me, it's time for us to make out opportunities. They're not going to understand. That's exactly what. I got this shit right there's right. That's right. It's not going to stand the value of who we are until we take it and make it for us and then they'll be on.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Did you do it without? Yeah, we did. You weren't fucking with me. You weren't fucking with me. We'll talk after. Yeah, we need to rap. We'll talk all this. We'll talk all this. We'll wrap.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I see you still keep your purse close back. Hell yeah. That's always being your shit. You know what? And if you asked me about it, the one time when I take death jam and they took it from me, And I was like, I don't know this motherfucker. You know, I'm always on that, you know, the gaffle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You know, get gaffled, motherfuck, get gifle, I don't know these motherfuckers. Your hand is in my purse. Yeah, like that. So I've always been that person in life. You know, the reason I, it's a lot of shit in here, but the reason I don't carry a gun is my temper. I can see that. Who fuck you?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Let me ask you a comedian question. How long do you think it took you to? find your voice. Oh, I found my voice fast because I'm really doing an impersonation of my oldest brother and my father. Yeah, so I was just
Starting point is 00:05:12 laying back, because I started as a singer. Word? Oh, yeah. I heard you as a lingerie model, too. Nick, let you take something. Okay, this one really happened. Going to college, trying to make money, I answered the ad.
Starting point is 00:05:25 The club is still open. It's on Stoney Island. so they had an advertisement for a lingerie model but you had to wear the lingerie model it and then the person would pay you to take it off but God lets you know what you ain't supposed to do I'm not good at it right was self-conscious no self-conscious you know just not something that I really understood
Starting point is 00:05:49 I think there's a talent to sexual interpretive dance that I grew to learn but I wasn't good at it back then So I started making dudes laugh. You know, when you make a hood, do laugh. You funny the motherfucker. Show the missing teeth. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:05 When a hood dude laughed, so they was tipping me because I was making them laugh. And then one dude was like, let me take you home. You shouldn't be here. You got to say? Not exactly. He hit you with you. You know you don't got to do this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But can I tell you something? He was a really good street dude. He was a good street dude.
Starting point is 00:06:26 and then I got a violent situation and those were the dudes that said if we find a dude that did it, we're going to kill him. I was like, don't do this. Don't do this on my behalf. But those are the type of men that we need in the community. We need somebody that's going to regulate it,
Starting point is 00:06:49 that's going to settle shit down. I think the worst thing that happened is when they took certain dues, out the street life because there used to be some order to it. No, I'll be saying that. Yeah. It was like a respect for the older cat.
Starting point is 00:07:03 That's the only word. That guy that you respect the guy. That's the niggas don't never get out of prison no more. Now it's because the money will turn to it. I don't know. I remember every neighborhood had that one uncle that didn't do shit. He was just in the neighborhood with a tank top on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah. Tell a little Chris you need to come see me. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. I'm going to beat his motherfucking ass. That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:22 That's what happened. That's right. That's what happened. Now that niggas don't get out of prison. That's right. It was always a street dude that would tell you, you go home. Yep. You are going to be a lawyer.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You're going to be in a country. Right. You don't be here. But they knew who was the person that would be good at it. But there's no honor anymore about the game. In my opinion, it's like anybody can be collateral damage. It used to be that there were certain things that was off limits. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You know. It's too free to be there. You know, you can't tell somebody, hey, that ain't right. You can't do that no. That's right. Because everybody thinks. they know. But also they begin to accept death. And
Starting point is 00:07:57 we had something to live for. That's why we I know, I'm out. I'm out the game, you know. So we're fearful. That's why I'm glad my need to get out of the street. That's what I was telling you. That's... Well, he just want to go fishing. Now. Now. Yeah. I'm fishing now. But you used to wake up on that bullshit. You know, before
Starting point is 00:08:13 you didn't get that little shit at your ass? You were... You know, I'm telling me. I was buying my about your wing about that time. I like I like a butterscott stuck. I like a butterscott Sunday. I made the pain hanging upside down taking the gun apart
Starting point is 00:08:26 putting that bit back together for my nose bleed. Listen to me. And then I'll be down at the police station going, you're looking for home? That dude don't even live here. But they talk about you.
Starting point is 00:08:36 That dude, I'm the inside person. I'm going to get this job at the police station. You look, fucking right. And the nigger named Otis. Oh, I know. Listen, me. That's why I had to come here and hate
Starting point is 00:08:46 because I'm like, oh, I love all that chocolate, they're all that chocolate. They over there bond. They're over their bonding. They're over the bonnet. He'll be on chocolate. Get into the giggling.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Niggins. Well, not my shoe. My shoe can't come off, not right now. And a little fungus. I got to work on shit. That nigga old. Listen to me. And see, motherfuckers would lie.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I ain't never had toe fungus. White, bitch, you'll have it. Take your shoe off. You ain't never heard of toe fungus. You ain't never heard of a toe fungus. I ain't never with a toe fungus. When your feet itching between the middle. That athlete's foot.
Starting point is 00:09:23 fungus is the motherfucker to fuck up the nail. And then that nail get hard and all that shit. And then you got put the little ointment on it on and it shit and it take about a year for that shit to grow out. No, no, it didn't go all the way black. It didn't go all the way. So you kept the nail. That's right. That's right. But I had to work
Starting point is 00:09:41 on it. You know, I just keep working on it and see some dudes, let me see your feet. Nah, we're good. See, I only act shit. I only had questions like that. Okay, what's the thing that gets you good, that will get you moist. Let me see your credit scope. Oh, niggins is this. Okay, how high I got to be.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Let me see the refrigerator. I'll be on shit like that. I don't be worried about no crater. Let me see an refrigerator. Let me cook. Yeah, I do a decent amount. I don't make a germs chocolate taste from scratch. No, just don't, we get pasta in the death out here.
Starting point is 00:10:09 We get an alfredo pasta. Really? Yeah. That's why everybody got diabetes and stuff? Yeah. Stealth bell peppers and shit. Bitch, what's a stuffed bell pepper? It depends on how you make it, though.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You got to make it good weight. They've got to have chunks of shit in it. That's their go-to, though. And Alfredo, stuff better. Okay. What kind of meat? Because she's tried, pop up some like...
Starting point is 00:10:30 Round beef. Brown beef. Who? Newhouse. What about... He ain't put no kiboshes in it or no hillside? Why do you make their hands if you put no kabbas? They're real town.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Real town. So, okay, let me ask you a question. If you was looking for a bra, you're single. Who told you that? Are you? Yeah. Well, if you're looking for a bra, what you're looking for? Describe her.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I've been doing a lot of thinking soul searching and clearly the shit I like is not good for me what you like? Young business that want to fight I don't like young business I like my women kind of mean
Starting point is 00:11:11 What do you mean distant? Me like she ain't really too friendly You know what I'm saying? She don't really like nobody except me I'm the only one can kind of really deal with See, that way you figure it up. Not one of the ones that you could take in the room that she bring the room down. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:11:26 But I like the ones who don't really want to be in the room, if that makes sense. I love a motherfucker. I always ready to go. I love a good sleepy-ass woman. Uh-huh. Yeah, I like shit. Now, I would nod off on your hand. I love that.
Starting point is 00:11:37 That's only because my blood sugar. That's all to my blood sugar below. That's really, I love a lot. Yeah. And then the time, you're ready to go. Hell yeah. Like, she's been ready to go. Well, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I'm close to that. It's first you've got to convince me to get up a go somewhere. First of all. That's it. That's it. Especially if the news, come on, be like, wait a minute. Let me just watch this 30 minutes of nightly news. Then maybe we could go somewhere.
Starting point is 00:12:00 See, now, and like, since I lost my mom, I need a girl. I need a woman who got a good relationship with her mama. Oh, me. Because I need, because I'm going to need the shit. I'm in that back. Oh, what if my mom are not alive now? Oh, I'm sorry. When your mom passed?
Starting point is 00:12:18 2013. Really? Yeah, yeah. He was close to your mom. Absolutely. Absolutely. That was your old girl, y'all. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Hell yeah. So that's what I need. I'm missing that. That's why it's going to be hard to get into another relationship because I need so much love. Why don't you just get with a bra that's your mama age or you can have both? Fuck, man. Fuck, no. You got, Miss Haddy.
Starting point is 00:12:39 No, I'm going to adopt me another grandmother though. For real? Hell yeah. Could it be anybody? I'm going to find somebody old enough to be my grandma. Is your grandma still my grandma? My grandma had my mom passed 2021. I'm going to pass 2021.
Starting point is 00:12:52 That's shit hard. It changed you, boy. It changes, man. Yeah, it changed you. Someday you just wake up and you just want to lay on some soft all day. You can do that. You need to.
Starting point is 00:13:04 You need a good titty right here and you need somebody rubbing right here. True that. What if they long? Can the tithes be flat and soft? I love a good long titty. Could they be flat and soft? I love a good long foot.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I'm talking about what she has on the tank time and she sit down. Them tits be sitting right on top of the giant team. But wait, can the nipples be up or do the nipples be pointed out? If the nipples don't even want to fuck with it. I don't like them fat men nipples where they just be smooth. I like my nipples poke out like a sticker. I'm just some of them stick up teeth.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah, the nipples like a fat dude. They'll just be smooth. No, I don't know if I got it. Like you do like this and the bitch go, like it's a sticker. Yeah. Yeah, I like, no. So, okay, so what type of woman you're looking for? You just need a bra up and let you go fishing.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Uh-huh. Okay. I, um, I'm about, like, Los, I ain't gonna lie. Mm-hmm. I like some slow-paced, you know what I'm saying? She'll, don't like to be not known by everybody and all that. Do we really acceptant of a lot of bullshit that wouldn't be on? Name the bullshit that we be on.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I'm bored of two, right? Yeah. I can fucking two of you used to be a whole long-ass. You ain't still living in the city you was over then. What is she don't have enough money to lead? What I'm saying, though, like, you live in Atlanta, right? Yeah. You're a known freaking, like, Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:14:28 We ain't never going to go there. True, that. So it's just like, don't nobody here to know you. So you don't want nobody when, as soon as you laying it, it's a niggins' own stakeout for your... I don't want to introduce her the money bag. She'd be like, hey, hey, let me talk to him. Come on, come, come, come, come here. That bitch, that bitch, man.
Starting point is 00:14:46 That's like, that way. That would have a dog. I know you, that's going to do for me. I know you then you just call you Joebo. Remember that? Ooh, oh! That's the way. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 But that's discretion. That's discretion. You go to any city. I left, you have, you may have shaking hands with somebody I dealt with. I heard. But that's respect. No, but what I tell people is, respect, whoever I'm sitting with, whoever I'm riding with, respect.
Starting point is 00:15:17 If you ever respected me. I respect them old school, nigga. Yeah. They don't even can't anything about that. Listen to me. Don't say nothing. Don't talk nothing. She would mean that.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Only a bitch-ass dude would want to talk about. You know I had your girl. Niggas, shut up. Oh, man. Yeah. You got a show-coma courtesy of a bitch show if y'all close partners, that's different. If you don't even know me and we walk in to the barbecue, nigger don't say shit.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Give me the look. No, I'm going to a nigga to give me the look. You know, we meet up at the potato salad and those niggas don't say shit. Oh, okay, you don't meet up at the particular. Yeah, we meet up. As soon as I put a spoon in, don't say a motherfucking word. Why? Because this nigga will kill you.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And then he's going to kill me. He's going to kill you first so I can suffer. And then he's going to kill me. That's why me and him, friend, we don't like the same kind of chicks. We all never clash. Do you want to have a, tell death do us part relationship? Hell yeah. So you can build the empire with somebody you love and look back and go, baby, we did it.
Starting point is 00:16:15 After show. Do you ever feel the loneliness of the show being over? I like that, though, a little bit. What part of it? The peace. True that. Because I don't do a lot after the show. I just go back to the room and go to sleep and get ready to get the next city.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Right. I ain't really too into the nightlife type shit. But I do be wanting to come home. Right. I don't have something that all the time. Like on the weekend on working doing shows and shit, that's cool. But I do be one that love to get picked up from the airport That's right
Starting point is 00:16:50 Get a little breakfast You know what sexy to me Somebody to pack your bag Yes You know what's sexy to me? You know what sexy to me? A dude that's like Bitch I'm gonna drive around here
Starting point is 00:17:00 One more motherfucking time If you'll come out with this luggage right now Find your own ride home That's the new shit though When you call Let's say I'm at the cell phone light Cell phone lot
Starting point is 00:17:11 They need open no more Wait wait wait How about I'm gonna be at the cell phone a lot for five more minutes. Bring your ass outside. You still ain't got you, man. That's sexy. I'm in front of S-4.
Starting point is 00:17:24 How about? You know I'm a Mets fat. What about, what about, bitch, don't make me get out this car. That's sexy. Don't make me park this motherfucker. That's sexy. See, it'd be that little shit that really let you know. Somebody fuck with you, though.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Like, if you ain't never had a woman go off because they fucked your order up. And she's mad like it was her. well I don't see I don't know about me some shit I ain't even know about myself bitch he emerged the pickles you heard what she said the eyes swell up
Starting point is 00:17:56 like Will Smith and Hitch But can't you get that Can't you get that with a little more subtlety I need you to remake this This is the thing about it Don't know People have podcasts all the time And they talk about relationships
Starting point is 00:18:14 and why the shit don't work. Won't nobody really even say it, though. A lot of the, it's not that these are, it's a lot of bad women, but no shit like that. It's just a lot of these women now that's out there. They're selfish.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Because they've been going through life doing everything by their self. And so now they just got a me first mentality. Like the things that you're saying that a woman would just, you know, it used to be times where women just had certain shit that a woman wanted to do for a man.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Now they don't feel obligated to do a motherfuckerucking thing. Like the one time you need some shit That's when they be like Bitch ain't a nigga need a rat They can't even get home But that's because some of y' y'all Suckers let bitches
Starting point is 00:18:55 get like that. To me It's not a manly thing You know Where y'all letting women get away with shit You know I'm a good woman You know I make a sandwich And a nigga be in the kitchen with me I'll make our same
Starting point is 00:19:09 Hold on man So what the fuck I'm doing If you're making the goddamn sandwich this I mean, to me, I think y'all let do you men feel that y'all let bitches get away with a lot of shit and why they feel like they can say flagrant shit to you. You got the other niggins that let them get away with that shit. Then they get with a real nigga
Starting point is 00:19:26 they can't tell the difference. So they're going to treat you just like they treat that up. She got women's intuition. She needed to figure it out. I don't think they got that no more. Let me tell you. They don't. They don't got women's intuition no more.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I can tell. I could be talking to you on the phone. Beyonce hair drops in the eyelash. See, that ain't working. See, I can be talking to you on. the phone. I can be talking to you on the phone and I can hear when you're ready to stop talking.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Why are you on teaching like that? Why are you going to teach a class or something? I'm telling. Yeah. What? You should teach you class. This is a lot of my... Maybe we do that here. You could. You could. You can teach a class. Because I can hear it. I can hear when you're moving in the chair. Missed understood with Cheryl Underwood. There you go. I'll do it with y'all. Missed. Yeah. I would do that with y'all
Starting point is 00:20:08 because it's like you can hear it and go oh, he's tired of talking. And then I'll go, hey man, let me holly it's you late them. You got a motherfucker to be like, say some. That's the type of shit that's
Starting point is 00:20:18 to make a nigga hang up and call you right back. What did you do? What did you work it out of the fault? That ain't right.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Well, you said, what you said later? What do you mean? Late on the day or the night. Like, hello. That's it? Wait,
Starting point is 00:20:31 I'll tell her dude, hey, handle your business. How let me when you finish? And I'm going to go find something to do. I'm going to go up here.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And I'm going to play, what's the little game? You don't find something about you. Candy crush. What's a little game I'm playing a game Now the only thing
Starting point is 00:20:47 I do want I want my attention in the same time frame that it used to be because when shit changed I'm getting suspicious because I'm a typical Scorpio
Starting point is 00:20:59 Let me ask you this You got all the signs and shit You ever been around a woman And you can tell she wasn't shit I don't know why nobody did with her Yeah That's why
Starting point is 00:21:09 What's some of the shit did you see As a woman From women, they made you be like, what's going on? Overt sensitivity. If you're always sensitive about shit, don't say, don't talk to me like, bitch, all I said was, what time are you going to finish this? You see what I'm saying? When you're so sensitive, or everything is a fight, everything is a problem,
Starting point is 00:21:33 or it's the extreme of the other side, you millie-mouth what you want to eat. Well, you want to eat. Bitch, make a decision. Because I ain't got time. read your line you know what I'm saying so those but those are things that bother me personally but I will pull the bitch to the side and go let me talk to you you might want to rechange that but maybe this will work for business because there's a lot of businesses out there got men welcome to pretty private with Ebeney the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free
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Starting point is 00:25:49 It don't involve we, none of that. Ain't none of that. And none of look forward to. They don't want kids. Like, you can tell they don't plan on really long. Really? But that's, I think there's some women because of the system telling us, well, you're the leader.
Starting point is 00:26:04 You know, because the first thing they want to do, if you can kill or incarcerate the black man, even all the way back from us being dropped off of Cape Coast Castle who did they need to kill the mandingoes why because they was using them chains snapped that neck trying to get freedom so if you
Starting point is 00:26:22 kill him then we will lose hope right then when women step into the place now you fast forward government assistance I can't have a man in the house that's what they want look at Claudine I can't have a man in the house well I got to have because I didn't come here by
Starting point is 00:26:38 myself he came first then God said this is what he needed so to me I think we should be fighting to protect us I can't do nothing by myself I can't of everything I have in my career what the ability will you say success is nothing without someone you love to share with why would I want to have everything I got
Starting point is 00:26:57 but I ain't got no dude to turn to and go back look at this I got the watch and then you go you got to watch and then he go I got to watch but you didn't live off me And I think that's what's different from me And a lot of women A man
Starting point is 00:27:15 I'm in a male career Stand-up comedy, right? A man says, well, where do I fit As a man? Be the man. Well, let me ask you this. A lot of, you know, the social media shit once again. Women say that they take a man
Starting point is 00:27:31 For them to be in their soft girl To bring out their femininity. What? They said they need a man to put them in a space where they can have their soft girl era. What does that mean? They need a man to bring out
Starting point is 00:27:42 the feminine side. They're not their own garbage. That's it. Well, okay. But if you were the real man, he knows that he's going to take out the garbage. But you need to keep them posse around. If you're going to go traditional,
Starting point is 00:27:56 are you doing your part for what you want to name these things that you want a man to be? What are you bringing to the table? That's what I told you. They don't want a whole lot of something. They just want to be catered to. Yeah. You got to shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Shut the fuck up. A man? Yeah, yeah. You can't say criticism? Oh, no. Hey, man, I don't like when you... Oh, you might as well count that relationship about... It's over with it.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I shouldn't like you no more because you said that. That nigga told me about myself? Wow. You were last thing. He expects me to have a... He's saddened me to him to call you gave for calling out to tell you... Well, I don't understand a grown-ass man's ex... You're sassy.
Starting point is 00:28:31 No, no. You're sassy because you told her what you didn't like. Well, listen. I'm going to say this as a very... every, what is the word? Laquitius, is that what? It's not a name of a person to be able to speak in a certain way. I know I'm using the word wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yes, I have degrees. But I would want a man to want to help me be a better me. It's how he does it that makes me receive it and go, okay, you might be making a point. But let me go back and forth. Let me chop it up with you. If we're talking and we eat and he go back, you know, when you snap back at me like this and a lot, I don't really appreciate that. And then if I go, well, the reason I did it because this, this, but you're right.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I shouldn't be disrespecting you as a man out in public. To me, that's a relationship. That's how I'm making love verbally. You see what I'm saying? But if you're going to accept that I said, who are you talking to? You can't be my man because I need you to stand up and go, bitch what? And I was like, I go, nigger. You know, that's what?
Starting point is 00:29:29 Bitch what? If I provoke you and drive you to bitch what, then I need us to figure something out. because I'm liking them in. Bitch, you know, but don't go too harsh. You know, don't go too harsh, because I'm still from the South. You know, if I'm over here cutting up, you know, slices some pot of meat and vina sauces and something like that with a butcher and I, don't go, bitch, what?
Starting point is 00:29:51 That nigga right there love vian sauceas. It's a shank three times. Who that? That nigga right there? You like vion sauces, potty meat, cradies? You listen to me. That's the good eat right there. Or a pickle with peppermint in it?
Starting point is 00:30:03 A pickle with a peppermint in it? Hell, yeah. Pickle. Little peppermint. She's from the wood. Yeah. But I think that, I think that certain women, they've never been around really good men who are strong men who want to make you better.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Hello, love, boys. I love you too. We have been having so much fun. Are we getting the game, D.C.? Yeah. Y'all, we're talking to shit. Oh, I love her. Oh, look.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Aren't you the first ever coming here as woman? No, I think Montana Taylor, I lost to Montana Taylor And then I lost to some more But wait, I got a good story that I've never told Okay See, this is the host You did You did
Starting point is 00:30:51 You did it! Sound like comedy, okay, so I heard Well, first when I lost It didn't bother me that I lost You know, no comic wants to lose You know, and so I thought I did the best I could, you know, went home, wrapped myself up. No, when I lost to some more, I went home and I took off all my clothes and wrapped up in a comforter and laid on the couch. And I was like, okay, you got to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:31:20 How did you lose? How did you lose? I ate a pickle, some sharp cheese, a slice of ham, and a chocolate donut, and a sandwich. Damn. I know. It was delicious. I can tell you. And then I drank some booms from strawberry heels.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I was on the couch. I put in the freezer and let it get some ice chips. Yeah, she let's see. Yes, I'll miss you lost. Yeah, so I was like, how did I lose twice? So then what I found out was When carnival snacks.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Allegedly, this is the way I was told the story. I think when Montana Taylor won, she went to somebody, I think she went to Tony Spires and was talking to Tony Spires. I need a manager, and he's a Bay Area Black Comedy Competition and everything. So the way the story was told to me
Starting point is 00:32:06 And this is my recollection That they portrayed me as difficult to work with Based off what? Well, listen I am the type of woman in comedy That if we was all doing a show First thing I'm going to ask is Did you gentlemen get paid?
Starting point is 00:32:26 That's the first thing we're going to ask And then if you say I didn't get paid How am I say only? Okay. There'll be no show until that guy gets his money. I'm that person. You just stood on business. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Like, I had, I had an act working with me, and I don't know if he wants me to say his name, because I don't know if this is going to sound bitchified. So he was working a club. They paid, that was back when they separated the pay. So they paid me everything. They were supposed to pay me. I said, what's wrong? This is a man.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I said, what's wrong? Ah, they didn't pay me all my money. What? They owed a hundred dollars. So I said, one person that was with us said, let's go in and fight for it. I said, no, we ain't fighting for nothing. We're going to teach him a lesson. And said, what?
Starting point is 00:33:09 I peeled off $100. I said, I own that debt now. They'll deal with me. So then they came back to me. Later, you know, I come to the club, want to come back. You want to do the gig. I said, no. And said, why not?
Starting point is 00:33:22 I said, do you remember, and I named a person? I said, yeah. I said, you owe me $100? Yeah, no, you owe me. I ain't coming. And then the agent said, so you were. fuck yourself out of and name the number of what they were offering. I said,
Starting point is 00:33:35 I fuck for less. It's about honor. You didn't respect this man. So I'm not coming here no more. We can wire it to them. Oh, now you want to come correct. It's a grown man. So any men that are around me and work with me, you will respect them. You're going to respect
Starting point is 00:33:53 me, but you will respect them. So that makes me difficult to work with. You're a real woman. You're a little for a black man. Absolutely. Because if we don't, then they know they can separate us. If I'm going to sell you out, then what are we as a people? Now, we can come to the side and I go, man, you need to do these things. We walk to walk.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And you can either take it or not. But I don't need to down you, criticize you, crucify you, because then the enemy knows we're not together as a unit of energy that you'll never be able to break us. You know what I'm saying? Because once they know what they can put in front of you, you know, they don't. know our men like certain things. And I ain't going to say nothing specific. I'm just saying my friend. Wee, pussy, alcohol.
Starting point is 00:34:39 There you go. And a little mind. If you get a void, weed, pussy, and the alcohol trap, you'll be right? Well, how about the one that brings the weed and the alcohol? That's right, because she's carrying us. And let's make it work for this too. She keeps it with them.
Starting point is 00:34:54 That's right. And let's make it work for the other. Did you just throw a mulligan in this? Was that a mulligan? If I got the new PlayStation shit, you're like, hey, young brother, if this is what you're trying to do? You're like them young men, I can tell you. Well, listen. The young niggins it odd?
Starting point is 00:35:14 It is really odd now that young men are talking to me. And I'm like, but what do you want? What do you want? You want a mama. Well, if that's what you want. So when you hook, there you know, there's a hug like this. It's a rock hug. It's a rock.
Starting point is 00:35:30 You get a little motion. That's right. I'm going to make you synestly quick. So who did you go, Mary? With your whole milk, not 2%. We're using almond milk. We're using good-ass, whole homogenized milk. It's going to be ice cold.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Because I'm an old bitch. I need ice cold milk. But, yeah, when they portrayed me as difficult to work with, I lost jobs. A lot of jobs. It's a lot of jobs that I didn't get because they said I was going to be difficult. And what it was was, I was reading contracts.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I was analyzing. I was, no, that's not fair. They were mad. They're like, your contract is great. Fuck them. We know we're getting over on them. You can't. If you don't get over and get over on all of us.
Starting point is 00:36:14 But if I'm reading the contract, I went to college like anybody else. I'm reading. I got a paralegal certificate because I want to be able to talk to my lawyer. Talk to your talk. I study business mechanics and mathematics because I don't want to be able to understand what's going on with the money. But I don't want to be, I don't want to be. I don't want to be the boss I want to be the leader
Starting point is 00:36:31 So would you think that Would have hindered you if Like especially when you're doing it for people You know what you do shit True No they ain't gonna Don't give a damn about what your contract say I had a dude tell me on a show
Starting point is 00:36:45 I was like The dude was like So I'm gonna do root to woodward I said who are you He said I'm gonna do on the show I said who said Who said that
Starting point is 00:36:53 And then he said Well I'm about to go out and do I said no you not He said I'm gonna do this And then he said bitch and all the men that were with me was going to jump. I said, no, no, brothers.
Starting point is 00:37:02 No. I said, here's what's about to happen. Since this guy believes he's going to do all that shit, get in the car. We're done. Let him go. Let him do what he's going to do. This is his show not. Let him do it. Then the promoters came out. What's what fuck? What's fuck? Your boy, he said he's about to do all this shit.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Right. I'm not going to argue with a grown man. You said you like that bitch shit, though. Yeah. Not that time. Not that time. It's just the wrong one. But when he said, bitch, that's when I back down and said, oh, this is your show now. This is your show. So since you, bitch, okay, Nick, hey.
Starting point is 00:37:37 So y'all got in the car. Got the fuck on. Sure did. So the nigga who paid you were like, nigga, I couldn't kick him out the club, eh? He did. He called me. But I want you to come back. And I said, okay, we're going to do a solid.
Starting point is 00:37:47 But I do have a, would you say a way about me? Yeah. I have a way about me that a lot of people don't understand. I don't like bullies. but also I don't like to put men in situations where you got to get your man on and it could cost you your livelihood it could lead you to incarceration
Starting point is 00:38:05 Bring that back Because a lot of us are not protected In that way But if you go to your trunk Your life is over And it's a lot of people that have started some shit Just to see where your manhood lie Now you don't went to the trunk
Starting point is 00:38:22 Now your life is over They're called tricking you out of the street And that's not what I'm trying to do. And sometimes I have to step back and let fellas be fellas, or I whisper No, we're not doing that. Go in there and let them.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Uh-huh. That, or we're not involved in that. But I have to, I have to manage the masculinity in my personality. I'm not no... You know who will love you? Who? Me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I owe there. Bitch what? What? What? What kind of sandwich you need for the fishing trip? I mean, got a pickle sandwich. Pardon me? Probably being on pizza bread. On sandwich bread.
Starting point is 00:39:02 They got pickles, chopped up, pickles, and they're going to put it on bread. That name is like that in about two songs. You know a little work with you? Who? See, I'd be willing to say that, but I don't be knowing who people would be having probably. Who, who? You're cool with Tyler Perry? Tyler Perry's my friend.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Matter of fact, I just texted him on a couple of things. That'll be a good. little, Todd is going to have... Well, I've asked him... I have asked him that I think Medea needs some other friends. She need a sister. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah. Some of the extended family. Yes. That can carry with her, but they still go on that. Commit the Brown. Because really, we're in a love story. Would you want to be... Would you want to be Cheryl Underwood
Starting point is 00:39:48 the media person or would you want to be the comedian? Because your comedy were always fucked. is both. Those two things exist. Where does somebody come from Deaf Comedy Jam and Comic View to the number one most conservative network
Starting point is 00:40:03 CBS if that ain't God? So what it showed is I can do both. So it should be both. It should be. Okay, a Medea relative that used to be a talk show host I saw, how yeah, I'm talking to, who the fuck is you talking to me there?
Starting point is 00:40:18 You got two sides. Because we are, we are the only race of people that got two sides. We got two sides. At work, that's right. That's right. That's the real deal. That's right. That's right. And I think we should be allowed to show that. Why is that everybody else can have duality? You know, right? Right. Actors can play serial killers. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:41 With Kristen Bell. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And he chomper bitch. I put in a Washington stuff. Yeah. Then was Batman. Yes. And then turn around to be Batman. Say the word. That's right. Killed out of this later. That's right. That's right. Close the week out to that. Put it to that. That's right. Canterman, Candyman, Candy Man. It's a hard movie.
Starting point is 00:41:00 But not because he's killing people. If you look at the story of how they did that, the Candyman was asking the Chicago Pimp. That's right. If you look at his coat, he was pimping. He was pimping. Because he didn't turn around and that coat stopped. This would let me know he was a real strict nigger.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Candyman didn't kill nobody until you got to talk. talking his motherfucking name. He keeps your name right. That's right. You were straight. Yes, right. And the nigga warned you on the second time. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:32 He's like, I ain't, nah. So you said that third bitch. Yeah. Ketka, can't make, got to man. So, uh, let me ask you fellas something. I said two. I said two times. What?
Starting point is 00:41:46 I think, yeah. What do you think the state of black female comedy is? Man, I wish y'all could just get together. I all have been saying this. I even came in the game. Like, I even watched some war and watching people like Dominique and Coco. And I'm just like, bro, these folks are like drunk and you got to see you see the young generation. I'm like, because the old has embraced me.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Some on it. But then they saw my work heads and they're like, all right, nigger, you're taking the same route. We took cool. That's right. I fuck with you. Yeah. If the women can do that, I just want to see one moment show. I want to see from the beginning to the end and when it's all women.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Like, I want to see that as a comedian. I'm like, this shit. shit good because y'all be rocking on shows with us. But that's because we on a show with you. There's two ways to look at this. We being on a show with you, I only wanted to be, people said, well, do you want to be
Starting point is 00:42:36 a girl comic? No, I want to be a good comic. And I want to be able to like, when I'm drinking on stage, I want to be able to drink. If y'all getting hot and we're drinking, I'm going to show to go. I want to show to go where it's going to go. Right. And if I can't follow, when I couldn't follow Kat Williams and
Starting point is 00:42:53 Maryland. That's when I called BET, I said, I'm watching this dude because I remember when he was cat in the hat. Right. And I was like, I can't follow this dude. It's a phenomenon happening, right? I like, I like comedy. I like hand-hand comedy. Right, right, right. Right. Okay, follow that.
Starting point is 00:43:10 You know. But I also like, I don't know. People say, well, Cheryl, why you don't do all-female shows? Because they don't call y'all shows all-male show. Right. And then if you do get up, sometimes it's an hour and a half of men ain't shit. No, I came from. And what do really want to hear two hours of men ain't shit?
Starting point is 00:43:32 I mean, I would love for us to, I think there should have been Queens of Comedy, one, two, three, four, five, right? So everybody can be Queens. But the way I understand it is they had an agreement that they were only working together as the Queens of Comedy, right? And that was it. what I feel like and sometimes
Starting point is 00:43:54 aren't there comics that y'all don't fuck with I mean see that it that I don't fuck with it just now that I know once they
Starting point is 00:44:04 it ain't about put on if it's my shit yeah I'm controlling who on my shit you control but if somebody
Starting point is 00:44:10 called me and book me and then I really I rarely ain't got nobody don't fuck with in this game
Starting point is 00:44:16 because I'm just gonna go handle my bed and come on off state that ain't got nothing do with me I may not like you
Starting point is 00:44:20 because the purpose but I'm going to go in my room. Well, not just like you, but your shit stay in the city with that nigga. And now your greatest joke is his joke. That's right. Everybody meant to be on your show. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I'll tell you what, because I, no matter how much. Who's standing? Who's in my system? If I'm high like this, and I go, hold on, that DC, young five shit. I'm going to tell you something. I'm working a show. And a dude was working the show. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Well, I can say, because he did. So I'm working the show. in Georgia and this is how me and Mike Washington got on the road together and this it was the name
Starting point is 00:44:58 chicken you remember this white boy named chicken and they gave him his own show and Fox and he's deceased God rest of so
Starting point is 00:45:05 I think he suffering from something that took his own life if I'm not mistaken I didn't dislike this dude what I disliked was I was in the back drinking
Starting point is 00:45:14 you know drinking because I'm the headliner and I'm drinking and I'm drinking and I and and my head is down because I'm full of liquor but I can hear all of us
Starting point is 00:45:25 I can hear Bernie Jamie I hear everybody's jokes and the liquor is like but they're not on stage so I go to the club and I go get that thing off my stage
Starting point is 00:45:38 they love I said I'm going to fuck ooh Deila it's my shit because you brought me here get that thing of stage because you're not going to do
Starting point is 00:45:51 an impersonation of us. We're the most lovable, open motherfuckers that people can study us and come into us and then everybody go, that's amazing. No, it's not a fucking amazing. You're doing an impersonation of us. You're appropriating us.
Starting point is 00:46:06 So that I don't like. And when you say joke thief, there's a different, ain't nothing new under the sun. If you study Jewish comedy, your mama jokes was back then. Right? And I know black comedy. that will study Jewish material
Starting point is 00:46:20 and bring it back into the club like they wrote it. And I'm like, look, that's Joey Bisham. Fuck you talking about. That's stupid sale, motherfucker, that. You know, so if you study it, you'll know where it came from. My feeling is just saying,
Starting point is 00:46:34 there's some women. I can't speak for all women. People say, well, sure, you don't work with women because you don't like women. I don't work with women because sometimes I'm not allowed to work with. But I'm also very reclusive. You know, do your thing, I'm going to do my thing.
Starting point is 00:46:52 But I pray that there comes a time where our heart's softened and we understand how powerful we can be together. And that's what I'm working toward. So men like yourself that have opportunities, keep interviewing all of us as female comics and putting it in the universe that we could come together, make movies together, TV shows, everything, write books together. Because they want to separate it. But why can't we do the black golden girls and it's going to be full black female comics? It's coming to life. Right. Tyler's in there right now.
Starting point is 00:47:25 That's right. Medea. That's right. Like what I think about the state of black female comedy, I think it's the same on both sides. Yes. Because you know the panic and the urgency for it to be that, to be that one. They let us have one at a time. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:40 And they've never got to the point where they said, this is the black female comedian. So now it's just like a frenzy. And it ain't no union. And we don't have enough platforms for everybody to be great on. That's true. That's true. You get what I'm saying? So when opportunities do come, it's so cutthroat that motherfuckers are
Starting point is 00:47:56 throw friendships away just to go audition for the same role. And then that one person who got it, now you've got 300 motherfuckers who don't like her. That's right. Because she was the ones who got the opportunity. So back to Comicville. So Montana gets it. And I go, okay, I want her to be successful. So Moore gets it.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I want her to be successful. been successful. It was not my time. It was not meant to be for me to have. What is having? So I'm not saying I'm against any female comment. I think Monique is one of the greatest actors, not actresses, actor
Starting point is 00:48:30 of our generation. She swept award season with a role that was so diabolical having been molested myself, I told that bitch to her face, I want to fight you right now because I know what that feels like to be
Starting point is 00:48:47 around something like that type of energy because she was that good. So I'm not against Monique being successful. Some more leading the tour that she's leading, that Crown Royal tour. Laura Hayes and I work together in Beauty Shop.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I'm saying what you're saying. You got to overcome that pain in your heart to go, now let's work together. Like y'all work in the gather, right? And now let's put some... A lot of us are old school comics. We did not get to see the success that you all are seen to be able to do the things you're doing. But is the door closing for us to make our own sick moments and make our own movies?
Starting point is 00:49:28 Then let's get to it and let's bring back funny people. But funny old motherfuckers got to listen to y'all. And we got to help each other too fast. When we see brothers or sisters making moves on whether it be social media or Facebook, We have to extend ourselves to say whatever you got going on, it ain't about no money. I just want to be a part of. I want you to win. I want you to watch this.
Starting point is 00:49:53 They see them relationships. And they know when you paid somebody to be in your shit or when somebody came and thought what you authentically. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing too. Well, when we were talking earlier Shannon is my friend. Right. Cat, I think
Starting point is 00:50:09 is a genius and I love him. But I was kind of, I was feeling some type away because I'm like, is this the way we're going to get it? But it was very interesting. It was very prophetic. He was very profound and
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Starting point is 00:54:22 you know, cat, and you know how he is when it comes to being three steps ahead of a motherfucker. Anything that he said about somebody that would have got him upset. I always heard his voice saying, Nick, ask him more people, look at him up, earthquake right now that you better get your money nigger you know what i'm saying i felt like the
Starting point is 00:54:41 things that he said and the people that he said it was so strategic that it was a lot of people he could have said shit about that he might have had a legit beef with but that's the good part i think he handpicked these people because he knew people's going to go back and see these people that's the good part because he never criticized nobody's talent well but wait man that's that's the good part of it what is the other part of it that if you you're speaking against your brum it could be true like I consider Kevin Hart a friend right
Starting point is 00:55:11 I would have wanted for me first thing I would have wanted Kat and Wanda settle it before she died you said that's what I mean settle shit before somebody leaves this earth right
Starting point is 00:55:25 squash it but then if it is true that they couldn't get together and she dies why can't y'all do the same thing you're doing here and bring Kat and Kevin Hart together and go squash it. I think that shit got too all out of here once
Starting point is 00:55:41 the altercation at the club happened. Well, her husband put the gun on them. Oh, you're talking about Wanda. Yeah, but I'm saying, though, if it would have just been some comedians. I know, I thought I thought he was saying Kevin and not what I'm saying is, if it was just comedians talking shit on the radio, I
Starting point is 00:55:57 think it could have been that. Once he escalated to the other altercation, that's what made it be beyond the talk. Well, let me ask you, man. Would you have let somebody talk about your brawl on her job like that, like he was doing? I don't know. See, see, see.
Starting point is 00:56:15 You're talking to roast that in the head? Well, no, the fact that the way I heard it was, it was really Red Grant's interview. Yeah. And then she brings Kat in, and Kat being the genius that he is. Because I want people don't come off for this and say, sure, don't like Cat Williams, genius, authentically loving person, visionary. I love all comments, even if I don't agree with you.
Starting point is 00:56:40 But then when it gets to a point where it goes viral, she loses a job, her husband. I didn't know she lost a job. Yeah, she lost the radio job. For Rooster? For the situation,
Starting point is 00:56:53 the situation got, it went out of hand. But then if my man, first of all, first of all, if a man, I went and married to step like that I might have tried to jump up and go
Starting point is 00:57:09 back, babe, put the heat down you don't need no metal on this. Don't do it because it's going to ruin our lives, right? But that's what I mean by a man having to step into his manhood in a way that's going to cost him his freedom. I wouldn't have put no gun
Starting point is 00:57:25 on a nigger. There'd have been a talk hat like man. But you don't know what you would have done. I know what I would have done. What I'm saying, though. But you would We don't, we, we only getting to look at the shit from the house man. But why go fishing now? You get him. He's bad.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I'm saying, I'm trying to have a regular roast because he ain't called out a name. Like, he didn't put a hands on a while. But I bring the gun to another nigga that did, like, put your hands on it? And it ain't no more talking. Just like she's saying, though, if you're the man who with that woman, you got to be able to identify where she felt the disrespect at. Right. Right. And if you're watching it, though.
Starting point is 00:57:58 You don't, you can't, you can't be at the house. is it, you know what I'm saying? You can't do that. It's going to fuck the hold. Maybe he felt like he should have. Maybe he felt. Maybe it went too far. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Maybe it was a conversation. But you get what I'm saying? You don't know. Really turned into that. What was said before he saw that person by the time he got to the house, he might have heard he damn near jumped up and put his hands on. You don't know what gas was on it.
Starting point is 00:58:24 This just, you got to look at shit objectively like. And that's why I think you squash stuff with anybody. The first thing I try to do so. self-analysis. Then I'm going to squash it with you. And it's a lot of comics out there, a lot of female comics when I talked about what I talked about on CBS and hearing the phone call with the Queens of Comedy. But what I hoped that they would hear me say is, I thank you for that because it was shit I didn't know that people felt about me. So I decided to work on me. And I thank you for that because that's how I get to CBS by working on me.
Starting point is 00:58:56 But some people don't hear you that far. Or they still manage you or they don't like When I heard... Let me ask you this, though, before you... How long did... How long went before you even told anybody you heard that phone call? CBS. All them years.
Starting point is 00:59:11 They never knew you was on the phone. No. And I did the Tom Joyner, fantastic ones. She was about to... Oh, no. You want to tell her? No, you do it. No, I'm not. I bet.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I'm 303. I'm going to give them the short version. I'm 33. I'm in my my version. She was, I guess she was up to be one of the Queens of Comedy on the tour. Right. And they had a conference call for the people they had already selected.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And they was pretty much asking how y'all feel about us adding Cheryl to it. And she, they... Well, so I thought that I was trying to be efficient and dialing to the conversation on time, if not early, on time, right? So I'm listening. Now, Greek letter organization members know when you dial it into a conference car. So I thought they was going to put me in cue and I was just going to hear some music. And we'll wait until the moderator.
Starting point is 01:00:00 allows you in the car. But I go straight into the call and I hear them talking about me. But I believe that God did not let me unmute that phone and say something because I think God needed me to hear what my colleagues felt about me. And I never told it,
Starting point is 01:00:17 but I started to work on myself. And then if you look at, I did beauty shop with Laura Hayes. I did the Tom Joyner, Fantastic Boards Cruise, with Adele Givens and Sammore. but I'm trying to be a better me, right? Because I believe God ain't going to bless foolishness.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Get yourself together. And I believe that God be looking down to me. I was just about to bless her with everything. And she still ain't got herself together. So I started to work on me. And I didn't tell that story until that day, those years later. Because I felt I can show you. You know, I can show you.
Starting point is 01:00:54 I can show you that I'm better. And then when I heard that there was some, I sure has an ulterior motive. Of course I have an ulterior motive, being a better meet, and all of us being successful. Right. They would ask me on CBS when I was on the talk, we want to bring this comedian on or this person on, do you have a problem with this? No, I do not. Why? Because this is the platform.
Starting point is 01:01:20 It ain't about who I like and who I don't like. My job is to interview the person. I wanted everybody that could come on CBS to come on CBS, so that God. would look at me and go, she's ready for more success. She can handle it. But then when it got viral and everybody was upset and, you know, people were talking
Starting point is 01:01:40 about lawsuits and stuff like that, truth is the ultimate defense. And secondarily, do what you got do. If that's what you feel you got to do, do what you got to do. Would I work with any female comic to this day? I absolutely would. Because people need to know, if y'all fellas
Starting point is 01:01:57 can work together, we ladies should be able to work together. Let's open these doors. But I want producers to pick us for stuff. You know, pick us. Why can't wait? They start the talent. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:09 But we know we fought with you. Like, that'd be the thing. It'd be the relationships. And then it's plus I know you got the talent. Yes. So it ain't like I'm going off a limb. It's more so like, my nigga, ain't nobody else put you in no shit like this. I believe you can do that.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I believe you can do it. Let go. A lot of people wouldn't come in here. What do you young motherfuckers? What do you young motherfuckers know about me? No, I'm coming because I research. respect you, man, but secondarily. No, we brought you because we
Starting point is 01:02:34 respect you. Yeah, we love you. We want to talk to everybody that we came up watching. You don't even know like when you was just like, it might have just been Comic View might have just been another gig in your career as a comedian. We're the
Starting point is 01:02:50 generation that came up under y'all watching that religiously every night. Well, do you know that there were things just like saying that they didn't I'm difficult to work with, so she can't this. But even before I get back from deaf comedy jam because remember there was
Starting point is 01:03:06 deaf comedy jam and I almost didn't get that. Now we used to watch that, we used to record deaf comedy jam with the little black with the little black stress pants and the orange shirt. And the little orange shirt that I put the pen, safe the pen in to make it look like my waist was smashed.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Come on, man. I know your jokes you bring a nigger a hot glass of Kool-A. Yeah, that's right. But listen, I almost didn't. Dude, that's a for real, for real. You're on the fridge. But I almost didn't get it because there was forces that was like, you know-need, hi, you know-ne?
Starting point is 01:03:41 See, back when I was coming up in comedy, women weren't talking the way I was talking. I wanted to be Richard Pryor. And when I was in a room that Richard Pryor was in, and you know, you want to run up and talk to somebody that you respect. I don't want to say idol because we're not idle worship us. I understand. But somebody that you were like, oh, I'm inspired.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Right. So I wanted to run up. But it was a force of energy pushing me back from him because we were the same person. We had the same flaws, the same needs. And I just backed away from him. So then when I was in the room with Eddie Murphy, after the BET Comedy Award, Eddie Murphy was at the after party. And I ran up on him.
Starting point is 01:04:23 And I said, I'm not going to miss this opportunity. He was wearing his sharp ass, like vanilla sweater. with the matching vanilla pants with the vanilla shoe. And he went, yeah. Oh, that was, you know, vanilla shoes. Absolutely. I thought she was a gay to see him. It's Eddie Murphy, Nick.
Starting point is 01:04:38 He said, and he smelled like he went at least $750,000 worth of cologne on it. And I ran up to him and I said, Mr. Murphy, and I stuck my hand, and I pulled it back. I said, I don't think you know who I, of course I know who you are, Sherilander Wood. I was like, damn, Andy Murphy knows it. And that's all I needed was to walk away. Hey, he did a move with Eddie Murphy. I told the nigga, we ain't friends no more of you on. At least tell the nigga about me.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Did you tell him? Fucked me all the way up. That nigga, that nigga, boy, you got both boy and fuck, though. That's it. That's exactly that moment, though. It's like, it ain't shit I want to ask, fuck. It ain't shit I want to say. You can't break my face.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I just want to make you, dude. You saw my fucking hand. Then you see me. That's all I mean. That's all I mean. That's all. That's all. It didn't always shit.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I just needed you to see me. me. We had a two-minute conversation and it stuck with me for the rest of it. It got me. Because, you know, that's all I want. I'm like, eh, eh, eh, get right with Eddie. It was just one scene. They said, cut. And he was over there by himself. I got there. He got two big still. How you doing, Mr. Murphy? He was like, how you
Starting point is 01:05:44 don't? You can see his security. He'd be like, no, you know what I'm saying? He got it time. Let him get his time. And I was like, yeah, Mr. Murphy, man, you know, man, it's an honor, man, just to be in a movie, which, you know what I'm inspired. I'm like, there anything, like, you could tell him and just about coming. He was like, damn, there's anything I could tell you about coming?
Starting point is 01:06:03 He said, I wish I would have just kept an hour in my back pocket. Sure you want to work. There you go. I'm cool little bit. He said he would wish he would just keep an hour in their backpack. And he was like, man, I've seen y'all go on stage and all that wood. I'm like, Mr. Murphy, you could go out here 20 minutes. They love you, man. He's like, man.
Starting point is 01:06:22 I left on a... Yes. He's like... That expectation. All that 20 years of movie. Yes. And I'm like, Mr. Murphy, listen, I hear that. Yeah. You will fuck if you come back. Well, it's not about the high hockey.
Starting point is 01:06:35 It's about the love, the respect, the talent. That only lasts for a few minutes until your people do this. Or your people, like I said, you can write every day. You can only polish on stage. You got to polish it. Write it and then polish it because you know what work, you know what don't work. You know what jokes to drop out. You know when to do the TV show set of it or the gully street.
Starting point is 01:06:56 show set where everybody high everybody drunk everybody. A little bit more sauce on. That's right. Put some English on the ball of the joke and see for me to have that and to be working with people, I don't think people understand that feeling
Starting point is 01:07:12 but it's also that respect of someone. So I'm saying all of that to say that I wish we would remember open the door for somebody else. Like for me to I had to drive Well, first, they heard that there was a girl out there doing a certain type of comedy.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I was in Chicago. I was first doing it in my maid name, and then I got married. I was doing it in my married name. So it seemed like they thought it was two different people doing this gully type of, because I like to drink. I was drinking and talking shit. And usually, what are the blue jokes. The blue jokes is when you work a club and they write the jokes that you're telling on a blue card
Starting point is 01:07:56 to say the jokes you can't tell, right? Oh, shit. Yeah, so that's where it's coming is blue, right? Anybody can work blue. Right, that's right. And to me, it's harder to tell a dirty joke because there's only two, maybe three ways to fuck. Right?
Starting point is 01:08:12 And it's already been told. It's already been done. So you really got to be smarter to get somebody to really laugh at a really good dirty joke. Because a dirty joke can be clean. A clean joke that ain't funny, it's not worth anything, right?
Starting point is 01:08:26 So here I am. Miss? That's good. Don't look. It's a few motherfuckers need to. There it is. So, but to me, I wanted to be a good comic who could stand flat-footed because the comics I was looking at, the Pygmeat Markhams, the Lee Bruce's, the Gough, the Goughby, Cambridge's, the, I wanted to be Morse. I wanted to be.
Starting point is 01:08:56 also wanted to be able to tell adult jokes like Richard Pryor because there was this chemistry, this pull, right? So I wanted to be able to do that. But the females that I looked at, Marshall Warfield is the closest. She told a joke on, I think it was the Tonight Show.
Starting point is 01:09:12 It was somewhere, it was mainstream TV, but it was, I call it, one of the greatest dick jokes ever written, where she was trying to explain how to eat a hot dog. And it was a clean dick joke. And I was like, I think it was it Was it Johnny Carson?
Starting point is 01:09:28 I think it was And then you see Whoopie Get up and do what she's doing But then you see all these other comments For me I was a gunslinger Who was an adult
Starting point is 01:09:39 Who was a street woman Who loved God And all of that is in the same Pow Pow Pow Pow And don't let me be drinking See you won't come You as a youngster Made me respect women
Starting point is 01:09:49 I'm like oh It's a woman that are tail-ass I'm talking about You love you would say your set a motherfucker being the crown you want man man man man man man man that's bring a motherfucker guy
Starting point is 01:09:59 come back man man man man man I'm like Now let me ask you And that's what I want to ask you this You were on Like your whole career You came out doing the height of what they would call
Starting point is 01:10:09 like black comedy Like comic exposure Now I remember James That show is so iconic Yeah And you were one of the motherfuck Who went out there
Starting point is 01:10:19 And really ripped that bitch In New York Get the standing old And then that shit hit HBO Yeah but you know as comedians we know like you tape this shit
Starting point is 01:10:28 and you're waiting on it to come out like you know this she don't do it now give me right after that motherfucker when you knew
Starting point is 01:10:34 that shit was about when you knew it was about to change everything well I rarely tell this story and I'll probably elaborated in a book
Starting point is 01:10:42 one day but y'all getting in here first I really blew the set what happened was when I said I had to drive
Starting point is 01:10:51 me and another comic Andre we drove from Los Angeles and he had just bought a Gio I think When the Gio Trekkah Right And he wanted to open up the engine And so we drove from L.A. to New York
Starting point is 01:11:06 To go to audition at the peppermint. We had, I think was bags of You know, popcorn you pop in a pop In brown paper bags That was the food And we had about three, four gallons Of that dollar water that's in the plastic container In the gallon.
Starting point is 01:11:22 That's all that. Good, man, did. That's right. And we had like $150 for gas. So he was sleeping, I would drive. He was driving our sleep. Right. So when we got to the peppermint, we missed the audition by an hour.
Starting point is 01:11:39 They had closed. So I called my father, and I said, do we have any relatives in the New York area? I had a cousin, my cousin Ernestly, and my cousin Tina. And I called them and they let me stay with them. It's your first time, mean him. No, we knew each other. I just didn't know where they lived. I didn't know where they...
Starting point is 01:11:57 It's a crazy way to fly the rest did. I got a bullfucking Memphis. No, but that's how... That's how it happened. You from Mississippi. You can't people? Okay, come on. You're good people.
Starting point is 01:12:10 So we get to New York. Andre goes off to do a gig back in Chicago. I'm still in New York. I find out my cousin, Jimmy. I think my cousin, Jimmy or Baby Doll, was working for Hush That was What's the baby name?
Starting point is 01:12:28 Melba Moore and her husband's management company So they said we have to come down To the peppermint That's what we stayed a week To come down to the peppermint To audition So peppermint
Starting point is 01:12:40 It ain't for punks You better have a lot of shit Shout out to Bob Sumner. That's it That's Bob Sumner now And so I go Yes right And I think Bill was hosting that night
Starting point is 01:12:52 And Marvin Dixon, Marvin Dixon gets up And does, remember the Jamaican dancehog girl shit he was due When he was stripped down and with that skinny body He closed with that motherfucker That was his clothes That thing was stripped down to his draw Yes, yes And he was Jamaican dance hogg
Starting point is 01:13:11 No Oh, I'm about to say he got the sock on it No He's a big trip He destroys the peppermint He destroys it and so I drink a I think I was drinking gin back then
Starting point is 01:13:25 I drank like a triple shot of gin the girls in the audience said we don't laugh whatever you do and I didn't think I could follow and they said do seven minutes okay and the gym was like bitch do what you feel
Starting point is 01:13:39 you're in this motherfucker this I only shot bitch so I get up and I do 20 minutes of highly sexualized political material right and remember it was an Apache did I need a gangster bitch I need a gangster bitch oh yeah
Starting point is 01:13:58 he runs up on me and picks me up off the ground yeah and he goes that's a motherfucker saying that night I think it was Ben Ben Hill that did a Apollo Comedy Hour he was a booker of Apollo Comedy Hour and Showtime and follow all of those so he asks could I do those shows and then I got a phone call
Starting point is 01:14:19 my cousin's house about staying to do deaf comedy exam and they said what do you need? I said I need a hotel room because there's somebody driving. I need parking and you're closing everything. So when I got to the rehearsal with my, well first
Starting point is 01:14:35 I could hear people whisper. That's the girl. That's the girl. That's the girl. Right. And the outfit you see me performing in is the outfit that I rolled out in L.A. because we didn't know where to buy clothes. You know, we didn't know you give us a stifeng. We don't know where to get clothes in New York, you know.
Starting point is 01:14:53 She's sad. That's right. If you go to Chicago, okay, you go to ERA Black Plaza, you know, get some clothes. Here, y'all would know where to get the clothes for a reasonable price. So I didn't know where to go. So I said, well, I'm just going to wear what I got on and everything. So they, so when they read the credits, we did the run-through and everything, they said, what's your first joke? I think my first joke was, is it two drinks going to get your dick, son? Is it my death jam? and Bidson needs to suck my dick
Starting point is 01:15:23 and they said What's your first joke? Two drinks to get your dick suck. And what's your last joke? Bidson needs to suck my dick. Everybody's like, that's material? That's what I'm going to do? Right.
Starting point is 01:15:36 So I get up and I do it but as a You know, some of us do club sets. You got to learn how to do a TV show set. Right. So what I didn't know or understand was to recoil.
Starting point is 01:15:49 When you had an art audience laughing, but they can't hear the setup because they're laughing so hard and they're responsive. So this is where I messed up and thank God for editing. Thank God for Stan Latham. Thank God that's the man. Yeah, Stan Latham.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Who, if you read the credits for Sanford and Son. He owned that too. That's right. You understand. He owned that too. He's legacy. Yeah, he on that too? Season three? But I had gunned the set so hard. I was, bam, bam, bam, bam. So my cadence was off. you know, it's like when you do stadiums
Starting point is 01:16:22 and you can't. The delay. So then I was like, gosh, I messed this up. I messed that up. But they edited it really well that you can't see where I'm messing up because I'm a gun sling up. I'm just slinging them, slinging them. So by the time, first, it gets back to Los Angeles that there's a girl out there doing jokes like a dude, right? But she's a girl. She's still a dude. She's still a girl talking,
Starting point is 01:16:46 but she's as good as any man out there. So I get to California and they say, well, there's this thing called comedy. I was like, wow, I'd like to be considered for that. He was like, no, they're not going to pick any Def Jam comic. I said, why not? Because y'all dirty. Too blue. Yeah, and this is supposed to be clean.
Starting point is 01:17:02 I was like, funny is funny. It doesn't matter. Everything we do can be cleaned up for mainstream TV and other audiences. Am I right? That's a good comic. If you can't clean it up, then you didn't really write it. if you can't fix it for the circumstance you're in. We can host award shows.
Starting point is 01:17:23 VET needs to have us as presenters if they will see it in their heart. Let us be in the in the zeitgeist of everything that's now. You don't have to write nothing for nobody. We do it already. And let us stand side by side with a great actor and present. Am I right? Talk your talk. That's what that's what should be happening.
Starting point is 01:17:45 So by the time I get back to Los Angeles they start talking about this which we walked around. So I'm patient. I'll wait. And next thing you know, we wanted to do comedy film. And then when I did old drama and did that where it was me and Juanita Bynum.
Starting point is 01:18:01 And Wianney the Binal. Yeah. She won, they want and what is, chocolate? Is she no longer chocolate? Because I respect people's spiritual beliefs. Because small fry became small fire. And I don't know if Chocolate.
Starting point is 01:18:16 She go by her real name, Cynthia. Conchita, is it conchita? Is it? Forgive me, chocolate, for not knowing, but I want to be able to say it right. I know who you're talking about. Right. We were on there with them, and they wanted to question me about being a Zeta. And was it against God?
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Starting point is 01:22:22 or wherever you listen to podcasts. I don't know if y'all saw the clip of me and Ari Spears back in the day. Shout out to Air Spears. And I love Erie Spears, but he wanted to go back and forth with me about why I don't have a man, right? And I just snap. First of all, you want to go back and fall with me,
Starting point is 01:22:41 nigga, hey, you need to learn how to read a book, Nick, because I heard you ain't got a degree. Did you finish high school? See, I'm going to go for your throat, right? I'm going to go for your throat because if you want to go for me, I'm going to go for you. He's going to see this, put on that New York hat. He's going to go crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Yes. See, this is it. Yeah. Wanda, I hurt. But see, I love all comics, but you've got to be careful when you're going to bring some, you're going to get some back at you. So I'm saying all of this to say. To do everything that's been done,
Starting point is 01:23:10 I am thankful to God that everything I'm. I went through everything because it goes to the good Oh is this ticket Is this chicken Yeah Let's see what I'm playing with it man Okay
Starting point is 01:23:22 Why are we not sponsoring Come on JJ But I do think that Everything I went through in the comedy game People wouldn't know me As a political comic If it wasn't for Jamie Fox The Marcus Paine putting me on Laughapalooza
Starting point is 01:23:38 Taped here in Atlanta Yep Right September 11th, right? And I thought I was going to bomb because everybody was getting up doing, no, no, for real time, real talk, everybody was getting up doing a club set. And I, and I was doing political material, pro-president George Bush, baby Bush. That's right, and pro-American material at the September 11th.
Starting point is 01:24:09 It was too soon. No. I get a stand in ovation. And I hear them saying record everything she's doing, what she does, record it off. And that's where David Allen Greer comes around the corner. And I think he's going to congratulate me with a hug like comics though. And he busts that slum all the way down my throat to where I'm looking around going. So what hotels David Allen said? And I was dating. someone who was quarterbacking. Let me say I thought I was dating someone who was quarterbacking. He was a quarterback. No, he was really a quarterback
Starting point is 01:24:51 and I thought and I know I don't know where he is. I don't know where he's not. No, he was he, no, he was really and so he saw the footage of Dave and Allen Greer
Starting point is 01:25:04 kissing me in the mouth and I said I did not kiss him. He kissed me. I thought, I Bitsch what? I don't. Let me go, let me go, let me go, let it down. I'm about to get the job. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Damn. Hell yes. Cumbering of motherfuckers. He was congratulated. Shut up, bitch. Oh. But that's what I live. Listen.
Starting point is 01:25:37 That's crazy. I'm trying to find what hotel. Dave and Alec Red was in. I called every hotel. Damn, hey, put that way on. Yeah. Get me up, going to make a work. Listen, baby.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Listen to me. You ain't got to do this. You ain't got to do this. I like the kiss. I don't know nothing else. I ain't. Target on my ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Listen, I ain't good at nothing else, though. You come at me or something else. Damn. No, because you got six. You got six, right? No. You'll pull-out game. I just don't pull out.
Starting point is 01:26:16 It ain't weak. It ain't weak at all. Just don't even try. I know what I'm doing. You just assault with a deadly weapon. That's all. You're so hateful. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:26:27 You're so hateful. No, ain't he hateful? Ruin a bitch's life just because you don't want to pull out. I don't have a lot of strong independent women, though. You do what? And they made a lot of strong independent women. I don't make a lot of strong independent women on that. Oh, yeah, you have to.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Hell. They got a reason to do it. Look at you. That's right. Bitch, what? What? I'm going to get into this. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:26:55 I'm sorry. You got to get out of. Hey, you know, a bitch every time back in a year ago. Ain't nobody coming to see you, Otis. You don't have. I'm on a date with my age. I got to get a little young. That's right, that's right, that's right.
Starting point is 01:27:13 That I keep my name for a long time, bro. He's like, bro, why the fuck you want to know my name, bro? My thing, you stay on my street, what the fuck. Can he call you red? And be like, oh this. Oh, this. You're not getting it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:31 We do. I haven't called it, red, red. You invented the elevator. You invented the elevator. Ooh. Don't call you that. Why is your name on all the elevator? I'm fucking the shit I'm trying.
Starting point is 01:27:43 You invented that? Ooh. Oh, this. Don't do that. I don't do that, too. What you're fucking right. She ain't getting the last three letters out.
Starting point is 01:27:52 She just, oh, oh, oh. Odie. Oh, wow you all away don't. Oh. Oh. I don't do that no more. You're going to do. Why y'all wait on drugs?
Starting point is 01:28:04 You're my father. He's my father. They want me to be their father. Is that what they're all? Is he young? He wants you to be their father? For my lover. You just mean younger than you.
Starting point is 01:28:21 You're younger than you. Have you ever been recorded saying that you was going to choke a bitch when you see her? Probably is coming. You're going to lose 10 sacks if you're doing it. That's my boy, and I think he got set up. He probably did on the boy. Yeah, no, I don't make no thrill. I'm there.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I'm going to fuck. Oh, you would kind of do, jump out the buses. I'm going to show your ass. On the K-K-K-K-K. My name is, K-Kee-K. I don't pay no game. Nick, a lot. Knock loud than the mother-pon.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Knock, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. That's why everything is, you know, on sedatives, because she's nervous. I'm going to jump it out of nowhere on her ass. I said, anyhow, you come home late from the club. I'm being in that, like, furious styles. Like, the dad-on-old. Give me a motherfucking phone, bitch. You already in, huh?
Starting point is 01:29:15 Amen. I'm going to phone with the security company. Hello? I need to cancel my contract with you. Why? Because you don't let this nigga in the house again. What the fuck? No, that ain't on me.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Well, see, but okay, here's the catch-up. Now, this is one of the reasons why you can't know where every bitch lived. I don't go to her with my high days. I don't do that. Well, you can't know nothing the way you say you're popping up on the motherfucker. You can't pop up on the business. That's why I ain't, I ain't been in love in a minute because I know me. You ain't been in love?
Starting point is 01:29:45 In a minute. I love hard. How hard? Why you do your ass? I look at 25. Life hard. A nigga said, I look hard and rub your leg. I know.
Starting point is 01:29:52 You mean, like, show up at the church. Like, you can't play with her. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. You can play in the video, again. Boy, that is, that is peep nigger's shit right there. That's new. That's the niggerish shit.
Starting point is 01:30:08 You're right. So it's a video inside of a backpack. Here's somebody got a baby on the way. Look at the bird beer. It's a baby shower gift. You're a fucking up in the baby shower right there. Hey, boy, they bo, fuck, cool, fat. There's a hung on a lot of some shit.
Starting point is 01:30:28 He can't watch. Everybody else got to see. Oh, then. He's playing, bro. He got to keep in there. He's playing. That motherfuckering guy. Okay, stay the don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:40 And I ain't even said to you. What? Welcome to that. Hey. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know where you've been or where you were. But we've been in here having magnificent conversations. No count.
Starting point is 01:30:55 With a magnificent comedian. Yeah, right. Yeah. Very funny lady. You've seen her own multiple television shows. Very goody. Movies. And she got that.
Starting point is 01:31:06 degrees. And she get on that stage and put that work in. Talk you and talk. Thank you. You got to show much love and respect to one of the queens of common. Well, now the corner, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:31:19 This is what the streets be saying. We're going with his street, baby. Undefeated. Who? Sure, Underwood. Yay! Because you know how the hood. I'm good. I don't want nothing. You know how the hood is?
Starting point is 01:31:34 Yeah, what I'm sorry. Soon as all the uncles. that they ain't put you on there were like, goddamn if they should put it on there now. I was good.
Starting point is 01:31:40 You want to say? I got to it. I'm good. They should have got them put it on there with them. Now, hell.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Cut this shit out. Well, but you know what? They got to protect the house. The old niggas was mad.
Starting point is 01:31:50 God damn they should have shit. Hell. They were on other shit together. Mm-hmm. Put everybody
Starting point is 01:31:55 on the goddamn shit. You got to protect the house. Got to. My brother even asked for you. He'd be like, man,
Starting point is 01:32:00 you all have a lot of people on that show. Y'all left head, uh, uh, uh, her land name like the shit, y'all be smoking. The backwood. I was like, who? Sherry Underwood? I'm like, yeah, man. In Mississippi, they always be like, Sherry Underwood. Oh, yeah. In Mississippi, your name, Sherry, I ain't know if they're those. Mm-hmm. Well, we got the old. I used to sit in the bed and just watch you go crazy, man, like
Starting point is 01:32:28 night after night. And, you know, that's all coming. You know, that's all coming from you. play rerun. They'll play a rerun in two, three weeks straight. Yeah. You get a new I'm like, God, God, I know the joke for real. I'm like, all right, my way to walk in. Get your lap on. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Hey, get your lap on. Mm-hmm. Y'all is saying that what? Everybody gets it let it. Then it goes straight into the joke. You did one of them comedy specials on Beatty too, didn't you? Yes, I did. Yes, I did. But the biggest joy was at the time of the
Starting point is 01:32:57 O.J. Simpson's situation, it was a place to go. to work out your jokes in real time that they could come on, you know, the other thing, I would say, the best part about it was we had a platform to show we can do deaf comedy jam and we could do comic view.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Right. But the material was good. But also, I got in trouble for jokes. Like I told a joke about comparing people's struggles to the civil rights movement. And it got me, put on a website as a, as phobic toward a group of people.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Oh, I did. Yeah. And I couldn't get work for a long time. Definitely couldn't get TV shows. Yeah. You know, because there is such thing as the, I call it the block list.
Starting point is 01:33:48 But God is more powerful. Amen. You got to be patient. I got to be patient. This message is sponsored in part by the black community. and or the black church. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:34:04 And for me, while I was hurt about it, and I wanted to go talk to the organization that had me on their list as phobic because my manager at that time said, no, they're too militant, they're not going to listen. And we as black people have,
Starting point is 01:34:22 we don't have to make a decision. I'm black every day. You know what I'm saying? I told a joke, they worked on Comedy View because that audience understood what the joke was about. Just because I'm pro me don't mean I'm anti-you.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Right. But what we have to learn as black people are the boss. You're true that? We have to learn as black people is that it's all to the good of the culture.
Starting point is 01:34:45 You know what I'm saying? People may not understand it now but you'll understand it later because we ain't going nowhere. You understood. And you can't do nothing without us. I understood. You know?
Starting point is 01:34:53 Yeah, it is. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Do you have any young, female comedians that you like personally today? Well, I like everybody when I see them. You know,
Starting point is 01:35:04 I like Jess. I consider Tiffany even though she's older than the game right now. I love Tiffany Harris. I love with everybody. But I also want to see us old heads work with these young comics and do shit together. You know, we need to be
Starting point is 01:35:19 writing scripts and producing. That should a goat. Yeah, and then it would be fun to see us all working. Why is it the other racist people can hate each other and they'll work together and then stand up at the Golden Gloves like they never talked about each other what's their word? Cocksucker.
Starting point is 01:35:35 They all say, they hate each other and then be in the action film to go. That ain't real hate though. That's just a cultural difference. That's how they show love. They don't hate each other. They might talk shit at the crib. But long as they stay at the crib and y'all just talking shit
Starting point is 01:35:54 and don't nothing like actually happen like they don't never like do shit to each other. Well, listen. It's all verbal. They do, but it's cultural. We just don't know about it. Now, I'm going to tell you something.
Starting point is 01:36:05 When Joe Rogan, I know a lot of people don't like Joe Rogan. But when Joe Rogan was putting up them clips of who was doing who material, ooh, before the call-outs was happening, when Joyce Lopez was going going to throw somebody over a balcony,
Starting point is 01:36:22 listen to me. Everybody say, well, they don't get gully like that. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. They just can survive it. We can't. Who the fuck knew George Lopez with Shook Knight?
Starting point is 01:36:37 Stuart Knight and Big Red is the only two motherfuckers I have ever heard doing some shit like that. Mm-hmm. All right. Mm-hmm. And he was over there like Wabba! Yeah. Somebody doing his material? You're going to throw him over a balcony.
Starting point is 01:36:51 God damn. Real grown man shit. I'm glad they ain't do that. I'm glad they didn't do that. I'm glad he did. Me too. I'm glad he didn't do that. Mess up your freedom over a temporary misunderstanding.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Hell yeah. The joke thief has got to steal for the rest of his life because he doesn't know how to create a right or she doesn't know how to create a right. You got steal forever. But see, they're necessary to them. That shit necessary because it's just like in the Matrix, right? When you just be kicking it and doing all the amazing Matrix shit,
Starting point is 01:37:22 then the motherfuckers with the suits show up, Mr. Anderson. Then you know it's time. to get the fuck out of it. Right. You know the most dangerous place to be? After the show, at a diner with a bunch of comments. Because now the show is over. We got liquor in our system.
Starting point is 01:37:43 We got weed and we smoke. This is the best show right here. Right. But that's also where the thief is listening. And it's always the discussion of, if I get to the stage before you get the stage, because comedians will say that. If I get to the stage before you get to the stage, my joke. But I
Starting point is 01:38:00 feel like you got to keep stealing. The funniest shit I ever seen like that this comedian was on stage, he said, well, my lady said, give it up for my ladies. This nigga in the back said, this nigga doing my shit. Nah, I can't say. I love how you all doing?
Starting point is 01:38:20 I can't have nothing. I can't have anything. Hey, yeah, got a job. Damn. Oh, grateful out of that dick. That's right. And the Jimonize in the middle of this. That's my dog. You just asked me that.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Real nigginsville. Man, God. Damn. You all that's my shit right now. That's my shit right now. I can't do shit. Hang around, you nigga. Won't everybody have a bad time?
Starting point is 01:38:48 Clap your hands if you love the Lord. Man, this nigga. You don't really like that. Hey, Benning shirt. Makes a noise. You love your granny. Man, this nigga, I'm going, I'm going to hit this nigga, right?
Starting point is 01:39:01 My grandma joke, no. Mm-hmm. Well, a nigga stupid, bro. What did I want to know, though? Any questions? We just love this shit. We just love your journey for real. Well, I will tell you this, though.
Starting point is 01:39:19 I'm happy that God let me live that still be working. Amen. And I'm happy that I think the Lord understands me. You know, I like adult comedy. I like profane sexual comedy because I believe you can put some knowledge in between all of that.
Starting point is 01:39:37 You know what I'm saying? How we lose an election? Impossible. You know what I love is that we can turn on the TV and see you on there talking shit with Sharon Osborne and all them. And then you can come on that show and kick with us and eat fish and shrimp and chicken and shit.
Starting point is 01:39:55 See, that's how the shit supposed to be. Talking about from JJ, nah. Yeah. But if you forget where you come from, that's where you lose it all. Because then you will simulate into somebody else's world and lifestyle. Come on, huh? And that's to your demise.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Once you start assimilate. You need a paper towel. No, I'm cool in the game. Fing her. Come on. You need one. You be licking them fine? That is.
Starting point is 01:40:16 She lied to lick. And why is the bitch by herself? Let's be like a pig of her. Okay. Okay. Okay, wait a minute, let me ask you fellas. Why is it that with female comics or a strong woman and a strong business, why are we alone? What's up?
Starting point is 01:40:38 Why y'all alone? I don't know. Because y'all don't trust them. I don't know if I was wanting to be alone. I think women get to see men be men on the entertainment industry. They see men being men so much that they can't really trust them. I feel like y'all be swiping out too much shit. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:56 What? Like, see you pull the brawl out of the audience? Yeah. I don't pull dudes out there. But what I'm saying is. I'm pulling the finest dudes to Mike Epps store. I like to thank you, Mike Epps. I pulled a baby DeBarre's.
Starting point is 01:41:11 This boy was young and pretty. Hold up. You think we're going to agree with you. Like, when we're going to be getting them niggins. I sure are getting them niggas. Drug dealers, football players, Even the football drug and the football player, even the police. I do.
Starting point is 01:41:29 I do because I will walk up on a dune go, so what you're doing after this? Oh. Yeah. That's fine. But also. Had a cougar do me like that in the Dominican Republic. Remember what's the Dominican Republic? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Man, I'm talking about literally, what's all me at the little pool part? Mm-hmm. We walking by. And she was like, hi. I was like, what's happening? And she was like, what are you going to go? I'm like, shit. She's in there bitch.
Starting point is 01:41:49 She'd be like, want to go me? I'm like, hey, I tell you. Hey, listen. Bitch, we're a Dominican Republic Miss, I would, do you, you know what I'm trying to damn and play it out, but I'm like, do you in this my old focus. She's like, come on. I got my little hotel right here around us.
Starting point is 01:42:03 I'm like, I'm like, I'm days. How are you in? When you woke up, what happened? Toad that ass up. Toad that ass up. That's right. You're going to knock grandma on these boots, right?
Starting point is 01:42:17 That's bad. Don't push me. I wasn't there. Don't let his brain and stop you, young. Don't let me look great And stop you y'allin It was the nice It was the sun was out
Starting point is 01:42:28 He was in the pool part I didn't imagine the pool part Like hey boy he's old I ain't poor enough Really You told me what they're like I'm like Get some old bitch right
Starting point is 01:42:37 They're going They're going They ain't pull enough I fucking love I'm gonna get to put This bit like it But then she let you stay No we went back to
Starting point is 01:42:48 The festivities It ain't the type of thing Where you even want to stay It wasn't that It was like, oh, okay. You got it for free. It was part of the festivities. Well, it was free.
Starting point is 01:42:57 We were deaf. I was the show. Yeah. But then, you know, the show got like a little pool party then day up. So I'm in the pool party. This is part of the festivities. I'm doing it. Festivity.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Yeah, it was free. Oh, no. She was, she came here for. Oh, okay. So she saw me perform and it was like, pool party younger. It was like she whispered and I heard. She was like, what's going?
Starting point is 01:43:21 So y'all, y'all did. handled your business and then you went back to the car. Oh, we handled that minute and she put up swim truck on? I was like, look at the dirty bitch. They didn't take no bad. That is like that. That's what I went back to the beach. That's what I was trying to ask you.
Starting point is 01:43:35 She ain't, she ain't dutch. She ain't dead. She ain't put no soap in no wild to nothing. On behalf of all, all bidses. You need to dutch. Right back to the pool, bro. No, you need the dund.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Go get some damn Gina tight. She locked that door and walked with me. No, you're nasty miss. Put the hotel tea right here. No. Smelling like DC y'all. Like, bitch, I know that smell, bitch. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:44:06 That shit was so funny, bro. No. They take no bad. I went right back to the pool. She put to get in the pool? Yeah. She thought that she couldn't be. What was she 40?
Starting point is 01:44:18 Oh, she's living in her father's. Gotta be. I'm a young man. The old bitch is going to run some bath for her. Like 22. You don't mind if I take a bath in your tub. That's an old bitch right now. She's going to fucking around and jump in the comments.
Starting point is 01:44:28 That ain't true. Listen. This is one auntie perth going around. Like, she was just like how you said, you're going to walk up and run up on the nigger. She'll need this shit. She went. She went to run.
Starting point is 01:44:38 She's like, come on. She's like, come on. I ain't going to play with you now. Do what going to happen. We're going to do what we're going to do. Yeah, but I'm going to need to take a bag after I walk out this, motherfucker now. Ain't you got to play.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Somebody need to do it. Somebody need to do it's just something. put some lotion on your legs. You're looking ashy on one side. That's nice. Lid. Funchy was lit. The crazy part about it,
Starting point is 01:44:56 as I'm leaving, I see her talking to a digger, so I'm like, darn, that nigger took my bit. I was trying to go around to the world. Wait a minute. You got to get laid up the job.
Starting point is 01:45:12 And the pool party ain't even over. She didn't feel to me to take no shower. No. They ain't new shit. No. I'm going to get his other hand for the pussy. That's right. Because you said you're going to knock the lining out of the time.
Starting point is 01:45:26 I still got half a line and left on it. I got half a line. I'm going to get what you want. You got what you want. That's right. I still see some of this one left over. I'm trying to put a little nightcap. Tipped my baby, man.
Starting point is 01:45:41 No, hell. He's out of there. Well, all questions asked. We're good. All questions. you're happy That's what we wanted We wanted you to come in here
Starting point is 01:45:56 Just talk some shit with us Hey we have fun And then you want to do What you want to do What you're talking Oh Why are you not running Three shows in one night
Starting point is 01:46:08 Different versions of this setup You put your DJ in Put your comics in And run three of these one night Like if you're going to do homecomings Three homecomings One night In three different locations
Starting point is 01:46:25 So you're making money While you're making money You got the apparatus Why y'all not know Oh shit Put that shit together Produce that shit Absolutely
Starting point is 01:46:34 And get a sponsor And get a sponsor And you're letting you're making money Why you're making money That's what I'm trying to do Anyway Make some money Why I'm making some money
Starting point is 01:46:44 World domination That's what this is all about I want to be making some money while I'm making some money. Absolutely. After I already made some money off the money that I made that was making me money
Starting point is 01:46:55 that started making the money. And then the money that I made while I was making money, it just go back to some more money that I made. And then I'm still making money at the same time. I got money that's made already. So I could literally make money
Starting point is 01:47:12 if I had already made some money. That's real time. It's profound. So now I got to go with some money so some money can be made. They're real talk. That's real time. That's exactly what it is. I'm going to take a bath.
Starting point is 01:47:28 All right. This is your first time. But don't let it be your last. You're going to take it out of the South. Hold on up before you go. When you take your bail, we got you another outfit. That's perhaps you. I think it's...
Starting point is 01:47:51 Oh, you're dumbing? Yeah. Earn a full shot. Come on. Just go over your hand. No, it's not a hood. It's a pull-off. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:48:01 You're a pull-up. Yeah. Right. I just got to make sure the face can put on out. And buckle that wig down. Let's get a picture right quick. Okay. I knew I wanted to obey and submit
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