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In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor.
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If I could press a button and rewind it all I would.
That's when his life took a disturbing turn.
A one-night stand would end in a courtroom.
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Blinga, linga, ling, I'm an ice wearer.
Trust me, you'll never see me rolling nothing.
That ain't 20 Gs a beta.
Come on, man.
That shit fucked my whole.
financial literacy up.
I was really in high school
thinking I'm going to be rich with these niggins, bro.
What?
Walking in there on Friday payday,
getting me two-pile soldiers,
nink. White tea.
Big-a-a-a-gibald.
You fucked them up on Friday night.
When you came out with the soldier,
with the ice and clear bottom,
then came back the next day with the black on blue.
In Jesus.
Now I'm shining, beaming, plowsing big time and stunning and then
Las and Lamborghini and shit on broaders with two more in my garages.
Plus the blue and black Ferrari with Nintendo and Atari, man, I swear the car.
Sorry, we lost them.
I'm back.
I pull up smelling like dime, sacks and cognac.
I leap a while later.
I'm flying back.
The private jet's about the land.
The women fall out when I let them touch my hand.
Now we get a smell of a little.
Man.
Don't get them like that bitch.
Come on, bitch.
I'm put her up the bed.
L, I, L, wheezy.
Okay, he's it.
The kids is put the bed.
Now we can smoke for me.
Come on, man.
Uh-huh.
Niggins, say,
you get me.
Niggins a girl friend.
My girlfriend coming over, man.
Her dad, I don't know.
I'm about to smell like weed.
God.
Dang.
Dang.
A damn, man.
Tell that a nigga, man.
Tell that nigga, man.
Your girlfriend.
Go to the real digigman.
God.
Damn.
Shit
Who was sober for two weeks?
What?
Hey, give me one more, Jay Wayne.
Let me hear one more.
One or two more of them, bitch, man.
What you got?
Give me one of water.
You were the most water drinking this,
nigga that don't drink water.
I'd be having to drink the water, bro.
I gotta stay hydrated, bro.
That's a, can't be dehydrated, bro.
How that shit started.
You ain't gonna do that I'm a kick it over?
No, that was a more.
I'm drunk the rest, huh?
Introduce me.
Hold up.
Fritz, you be engineering this shit, too?
Yeah, I mixed all these songs.
We ain't had no fucking mixing back then.
Damn.
So what's the...
Well, we ain't recorded you yet.
Man, cut these cameras on, man.
Come on.
Hey, yeah.
They're waiting on you.
Oh, I'm just saying.
What do I say?
I'm just...
I ain't playing.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I got some shit.
Oh.
They probably can see this shit up on the table.
He ain't stop me from shining.
Nah, I can't stop the roll leaf of wine.
Man, y'all don't understand the impact y'all got on the nigga life so crazy, bro.
Like, that's why it's a must we tell our icons who they are.
Right.
I don't care what you talking about, nigga.
We fuck with you then, we fuck with you now.
Right on.
Right on to the right on, dude.
I don't understand that shit.
Right on to the fucking right-up.
If the motherfucker had that feeling that made you feel when you first sold him.
Hold up, bro.
I know we bumping the tracks right now, but just so my nigga DC can hear this, you got to find my cousin Snott's new keyboard.
The skips?
The skit.
Snots new keyboard?
Snot's new keyboard.
You ain't never heard it.
I'm a baby generation.
The kid that wasn't supposed to be listening to the music.
You're feeling me?
Who did you listen to that app for?
You don't know nothing about that.
What?
Sheating ass with a 99 to the 2000.
Man, my mom would smack me in my mouth.
mouth she heard me say that shit.
I'll tell you, the first cash money CDs I ever owned.
I had soldier rags first.
Right.
Then I had went back and got all the BG shit.
Then I got, how you love that, volume two.
Yeah.
Because volume one wasn't available.
That was because y'all got the deal.
Yeah, yeah.
We hadn't got the money.
Yeah.
So we had to wait on the re-release from volume one.
Yeah.
So I went back and got volume one.
When we were the kid that were putting bubble gum,
aluminum four in our mouth.
I figured we had some platinum tea.
Couldn't even talk,
because the paper kept coming out our mouth.
Micah Jordan, y'all gonna see me ball.
2 million old.
This is my part.
Young nigga with the cold heart.
Lexus Unmet start.
Everybody wanted to beat Wayne.
Yeah, that nigga had some vicious sound effects.
At the height of the hot boy, Wayne wasn't even the nigger,
bro.
Juvenile was that nigger.
Juvenile was that nigger.
Juvenile was that nigger.
nigga. I always want to be a little turk.
I feel like we're looking like.
Yeah.
Y'all talk.
Who's getting in?
My paint's out big and fuck.
Tommy turk, mate.
That one nigga were imitating rappers back there.
You know, you can't even imitate rapper.
They tried to beat them.
We were literally trying to imitate the rapper
like as a thing.
Like, what if we were rappers?
I always wonder what was to disconnect.
What had happened when people stopped imitating,
you know, and start going, I want to beat them.
Right. Like, you know, because that was, that was a good era of music. Like, when you was like, fuck, I love this song so much that I could see myself being this dude.
Yes. Being, or singing the song. Now, we got so cool that you don't want to be no, you want to listen to the song.
But you do it like you don't like the motherfucker. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, damn where you want to be your nigga. Facts.
Hot boys, I think. My first CD out of all y'all, well, it was really Jewish shit. It was the 400 degree.
that soon as that
you see me
I eat sleep shit
boy that was
D.C. That's the crazy part about this shit
This nigga was producing
these whole album by his self, bro
You're the coldest, bro.
You're the coldest, I ain't gonna like you're a cold this man
A whole album, bro.
That whole culture, I think
that whole little way
Like y'all already got y'all away
But you introduced it
To the world in a different way
Yeah
In-house producer
Hello?
Listen to this, bro.
Hold up.
This is.
Listen to this, bro.
I was watching Snowtrap.
It did.
They had this fine-ass on there.
And my dick got hold and I thought about it.
Who fucking me?
I'm going to give you a hint.
Since third grade, up to seven grade, up to 10 grades, my dick got off.
Your dick got a hard.
What the hell is that fucking Nudge background?
That's my cousin.
What the hell is he queens?
That's some kind of charmed.
That's what kind of charmed?
Don, his daddy makes not, got him a keyboard.
Okay, that shit found nasty as hell.
They'll stop.
Especially watching the brum line.
I'm worried about that.
Why?
Why don't you're supposed to know on your car, shit?
How do you know from your cousin?
I mean, your friend, never went.
I think that you were friend.
Them of two chicks that guy married.
I was on a lot of ass Kim, son.
And you're talking about him.
Yeah?
Guess what?
What?
You know, when Jeff Tyne?
Yeah.
My dick, y'all.
I got put it back with this.
You're not nasty ass.
You're the one that was always playing.
Oh, yeah.
Man, that shit is funny, bro.
Especially at the time where, like, skit was vital to the album.
Yeah.
They still live.
We need to bring that shit back.
Everybody's scared to do that shit.
We got to put the skits back on the album.
Fuck it.
Put them back.
I can definitely tell y'all, Juvie, watch y'all off.
his shit.
Come on show him.
Wow.
He definitely wants y'all on his new shit to do the sketch.
Yeah.
Hey, Jay, I know we got work to do with shit, but, man, we've been waiting on this
before a minute, bro.
You know how it'd be like, you're a fan of somebody.
You just want to listen to some of their shit while they're there so they can see you
listening to their shit.
Bro, please play.
That hot boys is in 3-6, bro.
That's incredible.
Play it while you hate.
And then play big when you're done.
Because I ain't finished.
We finished skating again.
We just tell the DJ play that shit again.
The atmosphere when that song dropped,
it was just dope to see you having fun,
brad.
Like that's you have been waiting on that one.
You know what it was for me as a kid?
It was like the first time to see the producer.
I asked, you know how shit always been happening,
but it's an era when you actually get to see it.
I actually got to see the producer rap.
Yay.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
Yeah.
Niggins can play both parts.
Did you ever really want a rap?
Or it's just one of them things that you could do?
I just knew I could do it, but it wasn't nothing that.
And that's why with me and baby, I was careful to say that we weren't rappers.
We was game spitters.
Game spitters.
Yeah.
I was like, I'm a game spitter.
I'm like, so you ain't going to put me out there with a dick and make me challenge a
nigga that can really rap.
I'm like, I got a rhyme book.
And I'll whip your ass.
with what I'm talking about but I ain't about the you know what I'm saying so I we was
careful on game spit no I know my cash money history because Juvenile went back and he
rap the intro he wrapped on the intro beat for hi yeah yeah mm-hmm well that's
just one we always let Jovey pick shit that he liked you know like he would be like man
I fuck with that can I and I'm like go ahead bro do do what you're gonna do and he
always delivered yeah you know because you know being from down the south from the
South y'all niggas knew you know um you and
LV song, badass yellow boy.
And when Juvie did it, set it off,
you know, people down south.
It was like, well, fuck, this nigga got a hit with, but he wanted
that beat.
That was one of his stipulations.
He was like, that one juvie shit first?
No, that's you and L.V.
Nita, you can't tell me that ain't juvie song.
No, that's not juvie.
I did the beat, but he wanted the beat.
In order for him to sign with cash money, he was like,
y'all got to let me rap on that fucking beat.
That was one of his stipulations.
Yeah.
That's hard.
And I had did that shit when you know you like I think I did that shit on a full track like a little small as
homes in my house when I was staying in the night wall like you know what I'm saying that's just like first
generation drum machines and I was like yeah I was like I got the fucking beat bro but I don't know how
that shit going sound yeah and I was like all right let's let's and I found the fucking beat and he was
like bro this bitch old as fuck you got it on the cassette I had that bitch on the cassette and he
wrapped off of the instrumental of the cassette.
So how did it start? You DJing first?
Yeah, DJing first. And then you like, how did you find a love of making beats?
Remix and shit. You know what I'm saying? Like in the club, well, well, um, me and KLC
used to do, you know, he did no limit shit. Meets by the pound. Me and him DJed in the same
club underage. He'll come. He'll come anytime we call, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
So we was underage DJing in the club. But them
started like like really shining and I was just like well how to fuck I'm gonna make my
own thing then I start bringing my drum machine to the club like you know what I'm
saying I started doing bounce beats and a bounce shit was just starting to take
off so when I would do something like out my drum machine I had a fucking bounce
beat in that bitch the whole club would go crazy and bitches would go crazy so that
was my first introduction to producing and I didn't even know it was producing I just
thought it was just me doing some extra shit yeah yeah you know
chick, dude.
Hey, I saw, was it, what did you do?
A TED talking some shit?
When you was talking to the crowd and you was showing them all your bounce
back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's some of the most amazing, bro.
This thing got so much shit that he didn't put on the bounce beat, bro.
Just going, like shit you would never think, bro.
Like shit you're like, like Sam Cook and them.
Right.
Yeah.
I was, boh-
I got all of that.
Yeah.
I got all of that.
Brayling, shit, you can find that Adele rolling in the deep on that bounce beat, bro.
Yeah.
That first place I heard that shit, he was playing that shit.
I'm lying somewhere.
Because that's y'all culture.
That's your all things.
That's the way we actually understood songs.
Where did the bounce come from?
Put somebody on the phone game.
Let me tell you what's a crazy fucking story.
So even when I used to do this shit with my drum machine at the club,
motherfuckers would always beat on the glass of the boot and be like, play that beat.
So they start calling it that beat.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And more ghetto motherfuckers start saying.
that beat that beat that beat so before you know it everybody in new Orleans was
calling it that beat and one of the first bounce beats was some shit that I had in my
drum machine the shit that all y'all heard the um getting ready song getting ready getting
ready I used to always play that beat the fun fun fun you know and everybody
started using that motherfucker like it circulated on a cassette tape and that became
the the beat that you had to use for bounce like you know what I'm saying but it was
some shit that was created for the club and I gave it to a few DJs and then everybody
started using that motherfucker and Jubilee did the getting ready getting ready off of that
song yeah like you know what I'm saying so you're telling me you created the battle yeah
yeah yeah created the bounce right come on John that's crazy that's crazy
man there's a lot of legends that come through that said you know one of my favorites
feel I feel oh yeah yeah I've done some songs for all of them and
And when people, you know, like, when, when shit get played in New Orleans a lot of times, like the old first generation bounce.
You know, motherfuckers didn't know because you didn't have a way to say you did that.
But now people know, they're like, well, fuck, man, if fresh did all of these fucking songs.
Like, you know what I'm sad?
Like, how do it feel to be the producer that everybody has to come to?
Like, you got to come through, man.
In that era, bro, it would be equivalent to y'all, like, I guess just finding comedy.
I was having so much fucking fun and knowing, like, to me, I was successful DJing,
like my fucking high school dance, a DJing in the club.
That success felt that way to me before making records.
Just to know that you was rocking the fucking party, like to say like, oh, shit, I control
this crowd.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So that was even, that feeling.
came from DJ and before it came from music.
For me, it was just like to know that you're a fucking DJ
and you're responsible for these people.
And let me give you all a little backstory.
My dad was a DJ, right?
And so my dad used to let me hook his shit up
and come back later on and pick it up and bring it home.
Hold up.
You got to say his name because I've seen on a couple of them.
Yeah, you heard like, yeah, people talk about it in New Orleans.
Sabu.
That was his name, right?
So my dad used to let me.
bring his shit his equipment to he played in holding the wall bar rooms all of
that shit right but he had new Orleans sold the fuck up like from uptown to
downtown right so one night I showed up early to pick his shit up like you know
what I'm saying and he was like hey long as you don't get in trouble it don't
don't do nothing you could just play the back you know and I was like all right
and this fucking ballroom like you know like a hole in the wall ballroom and I see
like what what the fuck a DJ
do like I'm like god damn anybody in this bitch worrying about like bad times nothing you know
what I'm saying he hitting the ass with cool ass on one after another and you see like your job is
to actually take these people away from all of the bullshit that's going on yeah and make it a party
in a worse environment you know what what this fucking place is right across the street from the
projects right you know what I'm saying and nobody why this music is playing is experiencing
project life. They just fucking enjoy. They just having fun. And you know, and I was like,
that's a feeling that I want to do. That's some shit that I want to do. So I, I studied the
shit that my dad did and I just made it my own. You know, I was like, well, I'm going to make this
my own shit. And even my whole thing was, I was like, I'm never ever going to use my dad to
get my shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I could. Yeah, I'm going to get my own lane. Yeah, I'm
I'm gonna get my own lane. I'm gonna get my own sound. Like, and there's so many people,
like even, you know, when my dad passed away, you know, there was so many people that was just like,
I didn't even know that was your fucking daddy. It was like, you've never said, like, yeah, I was like,
bro, I never used my dad for, you know, for what he'd done. I wanted my own lane. But I understood
from him what, you know what I'm saying, what a DJ doing? And what's the task? It's the same
kind of concept of what y'all do as comedy. You know what I'm saying? When y'all looking at
crowd, you know, is a high to know that these people are taking away from all of whatever the
bullshit is that's going on for whatever amount of time they are with y'all. Y'all take them away
from that shit. Hell yeah. Yeah. That's a, that feeling is better than, you know, if you really
give you that purpose to be like, damn, bro, you've been on the shows. You see what people
come up to us and say, hey, y'all help me get through this. I'm going through this. Without
this on, you know what I mean? It's like, man, that's heavy. Yeah.
heavy when people telling you shit like man you know I lost my sister this morning man yeah
this morning yeah I just needed to get my mind away from that shit and he'd be like damn
it's spiritual you know what I'm saying it's purpose yeah and I don't care if somebody
tell you you know whatever you don't man look bro I came here to give to the people to make them
happy that's what I do and even you know being on the role with y'all y'all you know that's what
you all you know I'm like damn these dudes shine bro that there's favor with you
them you know what I'm saying and there's a lot of people the reason why it
don't work because they don't have that favor on them you know what I'm
saying they don't get the mission yes sir well we appreciate it we appreciate you
even rock with us on the tour yeah yeah y'all can't get rid of the beat bro I'm
y'all brother for sure so like I like like take us take us back to the journey
okay we understand that you the DJ and we know you you're tan the part of
that when you start getting that bus right how did you get with cash money how you
get around these people like you said y'all in the project new all got his own world yeah it's real it's
real it's a whole career before the cash money yeah yeah i was making records way before them
so um i think my first record came out at 86 you know what i'm saying yeah it was Miami
bass because that's what songs sounded like so i had a couple of fast Miami bass songs and you know
and um cash money wasn't heard of at the time like you know what i'm saying but but somewhere somebody was
thinking that
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I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor.
Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan.
He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected.
The internet turned on him.
If I could press a button and rewind it all I would.
But what happened to Clayton after the show?
made even bigger headlines.
It began as a one-night stand
and ended in a courtroom
with Clayton at the center
of a very strange paternity scandal.
The media is here.
This case has gone viral.
The dating contract.
Agree to date me,
but I'm also suing you.
Please search warrant.
This is unlike anything
I've ever seen before.
I'm Stephanie Young.
This is love-trapped.
This season,
an epic battle of He Said She Said.
and the search for accountability in a sea of lies.
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In 2023, a story gripped the UK,
evoking horror and disbelief.
The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies
is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history.
Everyone thought they knew how it ended.
A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy.
Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story?
The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new
podcast, doubt the case of Lucy Lettby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that
lived in, to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No voicing
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My connection with them was
I was DJing everywhere in New Orleans,
uptown, downtown, or whatever.
And I was the drug dealer's favorite DJ.
So we had Boppaugh all the time.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so you got to call man.
And I didn't understand what was going on
because I was too young to get it.
But the reason why they kept me out,
there was there was serving why I was out there if I was out there but I was out there
playing a crowd was out there you know what I'm saying so it would be five
drug dealers that got together uptown and be like man we got a head this
motherfucker up here all night long as he playing the crowd coming right you know what
I'm saying so they can get off get out yeah yeah so for me I didn't
understand why I was booked I just took me I thought it was just popularity and it
grew into popularity yeah but I knew like at one point God I get it why y'all y'all y'all
I'm the safe bet with everything.
They're like, man, get maddy.
The crowd gonna come, you know.
And that turned into, okay, if I'm gonna keep this,
I gotta keep on giving y'all something new, you know.
And I started being the remix king of shit.
Like, you know, when somebody was like,
well, he gonna play some shit, you ain't never heard.
Or he gonna do some shit, you never heard.
And all of that walked into, like, you know,
the beginning of me making beats.
Now, Baby was one of them street dudes as well,
who, you know, who kind of caught my ear or whatever
And he had mentioned to once or twice before like, hey, bro, I got a record company and blah.
He gave me a CD of like his first artist.
And I was just like, man, this is bullshit, bro.
And I was just like, I don't know what the fuck this is.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And I'm like, how about we get back at it again?
You know what I'm saying?
So, and I remember this vividly.
He could tell you the whole shit.
So about a year after that, after the first encounter, he came back to me and was like,
hey bro I'm serious about this shit and I was like hey bro if y'all gonna do this shit I'm like I can't do
this shit if y'all niggas is drug deal it's like either y'all gonna do it uh I'm not gonna fuck with it
I'm like we can't have one foot in one foot out so it was just like so you want us to put put all
our trust in you and I'm like that's not what I'm asking y'all and I'm like I can't fuck with y'all
if y'all doing street shit you know and at that time New Orleans was on fucking fire
it was it was war for everything any little shit you done somebody was
knocking your head off right so I was like bro I can't fuck with y'all on that so there was
just like I'll tell you what bro we'll give you like maybe two months and we'll try this shit
and if it worked your way we ain't gonna fuck with the streets so and a lot of people don't know
the first generation of cash money artists was bounce artists it was all bounce artists you know so
the first song I did for them was a dude on name little slim and it was a song called um
bounce slide ride it was like bounce slide ride giddy up giddy up like bounce
like some some bounce shit that's the beginning to bounce we did that song that
shit took off you know what I'm saying the second song was the dude PMW and
that's the dude um he moved he he he um did the dip song I put my hand up on your hip
when you dip by dip but he was he was signed to cash money early on like you know
I'm saying that's crazy that's your live here too yay they group was PMW
Pussy money weed like you know what I'm saying so I did some shit they had a song
cop pussy money weed yeah yeah yeah yeah you know what I'm saying so that that was they shit like
you know what I'm saying and that shit jumped off you know so then you know they start looking for
anything that was popping anything that was in the club that was popping cash money got his hands on
and then it became like a fucking little bounce dynasty so we rolling like you know what I'm
saying and and and they had them times where sometimes where they was just
like man you know the street shit is gonna make us some extra money and I'm like bro I can't
fuck with that I'm gonna leave if y'all you know so this is what happened this is some real real life
shit the bounce shit was slow money it was you know even though it was popping but it was just
new Orleans the world hadn't kept had caught on to so it was only so many units you could do you in
fucking New Orleans like you okay you popular as fuck so
That was the birth of the big timers when we was just like, well, what can we do that we gonna get out of fucking New Orleans?
And I was like, bro, we could do some shit that's never been done before.
We're gonna do this shit bigger than any motherfuckers have ever done it.
And we're gonna talk about shit.
Fuck a Cadillac.
We're gonna talk about space shuttles.
You know what I said?
You can have a fucking Cadillac.
I got a space shuttle, digger.
And I'm like, when we do it, it's gonna be, you know, so that shit.
changed the whole dynamics of cash money when the bit timers kind of came around because
motherfuckers that shit took off and it went like fucking Atlanta all the way to Houston that first
volume one and everybody was like we never heard no shit like this before these niggas ain't
saying they're rappers but they're talking some shit right yeah like you know what I'm saying
they yeah they could sell pussy to a hooker you know what I'm sure sure
These things to sell space heaters in hell, you know?
Exactly.
Y'all did that.
And that changed the whole dynamics of it to like, oh, fuck.
Like we got something here, you know, and I think that was the moment when Baby took it serious.
Yeah.
When he was just like, bro, they're checking for us.
They calling for us.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And I was like, well, I think we should change the whole momentum of this shit to rap.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, bounce is cool.
And it's my baby, but it ain't ready yet.
You know what I'm saying?
So our next thing was on soldier racks.
You know what I'm saying?
We found Juvie at the bus station, getting off the bus.
You know what I'm saying?
And baby was like, man, I heard about dude.
My dad had already told me about Juvie.
My dad, Jovey actually knew my daddy before he knew me.
My dad was like, man, this nigger Tanut.
That's what we called you.
He said, boy, the boy in the project's rocking.
Whatever it is, da-da-da-da.
So we catch him getting off the bus
Where our office was.
And I'm like, man, let's see if dude could rap, man.
If he really, man, that motherfucker dude
rapped about, I don't know.
I ain't going to even exaggerate like 15 songs back to back.
And I was like, man, if y'all don't sign this nigga,
give him whatever he won't.
I was like, yeah, I'm geeked out.
I was like, if y'all don't get this dude what the fuck he won't.
I'm like, come on, bro.
This dude is the truth.
Okay, so you pick me, y'all pick it piece.
Yeah.
So he tells him, listen, bro, I'm gonna need this much money a month,
and I'm gonna need one beat that you ever made,
that that you're an LV beat.
He said, I'm gonna need that beat.
And if y'all give me that, I'm coming.
I was like, done, bro, done, done, done.
So the first album that we did on him was the Sogerag album.
And, you know, and me and Juvie, I think we did that shit, like,
in maybe three, four days.
Man, that motherfucker, classic.
Yeah, we did that album in like three or four days.
And, you know, like, that's that shit when, you know, when you're writing something and you know it's a genius joke, you know where you got to smile to yourself.
Like, you're like, oh, this bitch, going to kill him.
You know, we was doing them songs.
When I did Soldier Rag, I was like, ah, this bitch going to kill him.
I was like, this beat right here.
And I hadn't played the beat for him yet.
You got the people leaving your life, thinking that.
And the first time I played the beat for him, that's what he came out, spit.
And I was like, oh, it's done.
It's done.
So that had juvie came about.
So who else?
You got you, okay.
So we got juvie, right?
So, all right, we got juvie.
I thought BG was there first.
BG was there.
He was part of the bounce thing, but you know, BG was kind of off and on.
You know, he started on the bounce kick.
BG and Wayne was on some.
There was the BGs.
Their first little shit was called a BG's.
But guess who called us?
The real fucking BGs.
They was like, I don't know what the fuck y'all do.
all there.
Yeah.
The how deep is your love?
Right.
They were like, I don't know what the fuck y'all doing, but y'all got to change your name.
Y'all fucking without shit.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So that kind of played the background, right?
And none of us knew, um, B.G.
Oh, Wayne could rap.
Wayne, the way Wayne got was Wayne daddy, his real, well, his stepdaddy, rabbit.
We knew him.
Rabbit was a street dude, right?
So Rabbit was trying to keep.
Wayne out of trouble. He was really like, say, bro, you know, I got my son, bro, and, you know,
I don't want him to fall into the dumb shit that we look at life fast. And I know he liked music,
bro, if y'all could just put him under y'all. I told him if he made good grades, you know,
blah, blah, blah. So the thing with Wayne early on was he wasn't allowed to curse. So, you know,
his daddy and his mama was like, you can run with them niggas, but if you're going to be
making records, you can't curse. You know what I'm saying? And Rabbit, you know, his step.
that it was one of our homeboys like like on some real you know like grew up with us so he was like
all right fuck it we're taking him under our wing but Wayne would do shit where his grades were
slipping and they would take him out the group put him back in the group you know what I'm saying and
and every time his grades got slipping and his mom took him out that motherfucker made AIDS again
just to get back you know what I'm saying so that so now that the the shit is taking off with
baby you know what I'm saying and all of that but I'm working on
um B G's chopper city right you know what I'm saying so I was like fuck BG could
kind of rap bro he's been studying this shit he's been you know what I'm saying
because this first shit you know nobody really ever heard it but you know he
signed he sounded a little whiny and it was all bounce versus like you know
what he was doing a little chance and you know what I'm saying the shit that
that go with bounce and you like wait this motherfucker really talking some
street shit like some raw you know what I'm saying and chopper city was I was like
you know what fuck it and then you gotta think about it like I said the
original group with them was him and Wayne it was called the BG's
we knew there was no way we could put Wayne with with BG when he did chopper
City because that nigg was talking about dope raw and all kind of shit you know
I didn't even know what the fuck it was I was like I think what the fuck that is
what's this nigga just saying original white-hand music yeah the shit that
you like wait this nigger been naming all of this shit right he been like you know what I'm saying
and I was like I didn't know this nigga was doing all of this I'm like I didn't know the nigga
was and you know he one of them artists where he really is he gonna give you the truth
like you know what I'm saying and I think with him when he dropped it resonated so hard
because we we we we wasn't understanding that he was really talking from a true place
yeah all the shit that was on this album and lyrics this nigger was doing you
know we was like why they love this nigger so much and I was like you know what
then he was at the perfect age yeah of yeah yeah hip hop consumer yeah so it was
just like this this nigga really really living this shit you know what I'm saying
so I think you know and so we we start going well what else you know we got to
work around so we had this chick magnolia shawlty yeah which which you know and
everybody in New Orleans know Magnolia shawlty she had this song called monkey on
the dick but it was a bounce song right
That's women in New Orleans.
Oh, they love the fuck out of this song, right?
So, but Renada, she was out the Magnolia.
And, you know, a baby really liked Renada, like, not like, liked her, like, he just liked her energy.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Because regardless to, they stopped doing bounce music.
Renata was always around.
But Renata was like, it's this other thing in the project.
He's kind of nice.
He coming up.
And it was Turk.
So Renata brought Turk around.
You know what I'm saying?
And I was like, oh, I like him.
You know, he's nice.
So let's try it out.
You know, and by then, we was trying to figure out how do we market all of them, you know, but we can't.
And I'm like, well, how about we make them a group and then start marketing them one by one?
And that's what made the hot boys.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, instead of going like one at a time, we're going to make them a group.
And then we'll start chipping from that group and let everybody have their identity.
You know what I'm saying?
And that formed into the.
hot boys and from there we was just like who is the one that resonates you know more it was
juvie like y'all was saying juvie it was something special about juvie around that when
motherfuckers was just like bruh yeah this dude juvenile whatever this dude juvenile it kept coming up
because it's just like he represents it felt like as a consumer as a fan it felt like he just
represented the entire south not you know what i'm saying yeah they brought elements of
Everybody can relate to it whether you was from New Orleans or Atlanta.
It's just like the realness of the hood.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
See, a lot of people think that the deal when we, when we sign with you on Universal,
a lot of people think it was juvenile, you know, 400 degrees that it wasn't that.
It was the big timers.
Right.
The big timers, you know, like the reason why they made us stop with the volume one was,
we was already gold when we did the deal.
So, you know, they was talking cocky shit.
They was just like, we don't need y'all fucking money.
You know what I said?
So if y'all gonna give us some money, y'all got to give us some real money.
So they was like, okay, this is the deal.
Take that shit off the shelf and give it to us.
Y'all can't make no more money off of it.
So that kind of put it in limbo.
And while we was waiting, we was doing fucking Juvie's album.
And we was finished.
I was like, man, we finished with this.
How about we just moved to Juvie's album?
So whatever is going on.
I'm like, because why we got this window and the hype was they signed
this deal for fucking I don't know a zillion dollars so I'm like why we got this
fucking hype I'm like in the world is paying attention let's focus on Juvie
and 400 degrees drop and the rest is fucking you know what I'm saying that's that's
that's one of them ones where when people say no skips yeah because it's like that
motherfucker it's like a movie all of them songs is now as the producer bro
what was your what was your mind state why you cooking this shit up putting this
album together engineering
this shit like your hands all way in the music I always you know that's just crazy
because I never really get to say this and I and you know we had some shit
earlier today with Gip and I was telling him the the whole some of the recipe
four or 400 degrees was Rico Wade you know what I'm saying and how Outcast and
Dungeon family was making songs because a lot of my production was kind of like
just 808s and snares and sound effects and I was like well
When I'm doing this shit, I'm like, I wanted to be musicianship.
I wanted to be some shit that motherfuckers was like, this nigga really thought about these songs.
He really thought of how he was going to do it.
So at that time, the biggest thing we had was Outcast.
And a lot of it was, we was like, this is the blueprint right here.
I'm like, these motherfuckers jamming.
So I'm like, this shit got to be jamming.
And also the pressure of the South guys.
got something to say. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? So we was just like okay y'all
y'all taking us for a joke y'all think we plan so I was like we going in on this one.
Man how we're like sequencing though when you got the single for juvenile for the 400 degrees
the heart right like when you was making this beat and you knowing this shit don't sound like
nothing that's out yeah did you know this shit was about to fuck the whole south of?
Yeah yeah he'll tell you that I got on everybody nerves you know what I'm saying because I'm the one who
Manifested you know and I'm not saying like that in a cocky way but I believe that kind of shit
You know when I was making this shit I was like nigga this shit going to me gonna
Man nigga you you you you ain't gonna shut up fuck no I ain't gonna shut up this shit gonna be around for forever
You know what I'm saying and they like nigger you tripping I'm like no I'm not no I'm not yeah you know what I'm saying
That's the motherfucker layer brer is like the hook way different from the yeah in the bar you know what I mean from
Man
As for the question white's gonna be rapping at the end it's like
You still hitting them with the transition and shit.
And you can hit the, like, the slight little changes.
And back that ass up was the last two songs we did on this album.
And we did them, believe it or not.
Come on, John.
I was beating on the, um, fucking, we went, we was in Nashville and we went to a restaurant.
And I started beating on the table doing the beat.
And this motherfucker started doing that.
He was like, that's you, some big ass bins, huh?
That's you with some.
And I was like, bro.
And he was like, well, I was like, keep fucking doing that.
Check, let's go.
We need to get the fuck out of here.
Back to the studio.
And he was like, I'm like, yes, do that.
And I'm like, bro.
And it was a joke.
This shit was literally a joke.
We, you know, we had a restaurant and I'm beating on the table.
And he's rapping and he's saying that shit.
And I was like, bro, that right there.
That's the fucking, you know what I'm saying?
That's crazy, bro.
Yeah.
I swear, because when y'all came out, it was like, I arrange.
You ain't going outside or out of no other state unless you got family.
So we didn't get a chance to see what other people look like.
Yeah.
When y'all was on stay, I'm like, and they y'all was like, they used to come in and bring
the TV into the classroom.
We can't even watch BET.
They're like, look, when this song come on, y'all going to get hype, but I want y'all
to shut the fuck up.
We're like, yes, ma'am.
Man, what?
From the 99 to the 2000, we're just looking and we just like, we're second grade, third grade.
But then it's like, when y'all shot the video, you know, all them projects and shit is gone
now.
And it's just like, that's just like, that's.
was our first time getting to see that.
Right.
Coming to the hood.
Like, oh, these thing really out.
That's what it looks like.
I'm telling you.
Y'all put us on game.
But a lot of that, I remember the first time, like, we went to New York after shooting her
and other places, like, you know, where it was on, like, maybe West Coast or East Coast.
The motherfuckers was like, what did y'all get the props to do that?
And it was like, nah, that's really our hood.
And it was like, get the fuck out of here.
That's your.
That's what we stayed, man.
It was like, like, y'all really stay there?
And it was like, fuck.
It was like, this motherfucker feeding a dog baloney on this.
And for real show, real.
You're like, yeah, this is some real shit.
And you know, and you got to think about there's times where you forget that and somebody might do it.
And the shock value of it bringing you back to a time where, you know, for Trinidad James when he did the video.
You know what I'm saying?
And he was, I was like, God damn, this is what the hood used to look like.
I'm like, this motherfucker walking around, go all the rumming the fucking little puppy.
Like, you know what I said?
Right.
It's like this fucking, we forgot this.
We forgot this.
Because we haven't seen nobody embrace the hood like that in a long time.
Yeah.
It's like, nigga, I'm happy right here.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
It wasn't the fake.
It wasn't the special effects.
In every video now you see, you won't, you made it already.
We don't know you, but your first video, you made it.
You got it.
You know what I'm saying?
You are already dead.
You are already dead.
Damn, you're the road rust on your first video?
One of the things, you know, and one of the things like, baby changed because it was just, that nigger is baby.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
The more and more we grew, we got to see baby turn into the number one stunt.
You see what I'm saying?
Because one of the things that I was big on with the early songs, you know, I would all
always say like some shit like nigger they got most civics then they got bentless so i'm like
we we we are for the masses yeah we gonna talk shit but we gonna keep the shit simplified right
you know and if you notice in the earliest shit we had Chrysler 300s we had Pt cruises
but right it wasn't like it's a Chrysler 300 right this the shit that made everybody
want to fucking yeah but the thing was it was a big buck right but the thing was that was
affordable you see what I'm saying
you
That was affordable.
That was a portable.
Everybody could put in the
Pt Cruz and wanted to put in a Pt Cruz.
That Pt Cruz like a limbo.
Y'all almost for that were.
That Pt Kruz.
By at that time with limos.
But the thing too, the masters could get them.
The niggas was like, that was a bullshit, man.
That was a bullshit, man.
You're calling whatever you won't.
I'm going to get a putte crew.
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I told you, we was talking when we was riding in the sprint,
I was telling you, I always watch the shit about the New Orleans, like, street legends, bro.
So I got to ask you about a couple people.
Okay.
Killer Stone.
Stone, but, yeah, bro.
Stone definitely would.
I'm going to even tell you stories.
Why are you telling me?
I'm going to just tell you how fucking crazy, like, you know, Stone legacy was.
one night we was in the house of blues right and some shit jumped off da-da-da-da and he bumped into
this dude it was a young dude little young dude that didn't know him right and he stepped on the
dude foot and the dude was like motherfucker bitch-ass-nicking da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da he said hey obviously
you don't know who I am he said I'm gonna forgive you little man obviously you know what I'm
you can't know who the fuck I am you cut up like that and the dude came back with like
four more of his fucking friends and they was like Mr. Stone
Oh my god
We apologize
My bag
He didn't know
He didn't know
Please please please
And he had to laugh
His fuck himself
You know what I'm saying
And I'm like
Yeah that's when you got a crazy
fucking reputation bro
Like you don't shook
This whole fucking club up
Because they was like boy
Niggins was telling him
Boy you ain't gonna make it home
You don't know who the fuck you just talked
That's allowed
Did you always hear about
Killer Stone man
With the big bags of money
And all that shit
Yeah
Yeah
The crazy thing is
All of these dudes
had sense of humors, though.
Yeah.
But that was normal, that was normal shit in New Orleans.
You grew up with killers.
Yeah.
Right.
Let me ask you about this one.
Face from the mill.
Oh, yeah.
Face fucking man.
This motherfucker ain't have no fingers, man.
No.
Yeah, that motherfucker can come around.
And it still let that fucking bitch run.
Yeah.
Nubs.
I saw him loud.
They said the nigga took the popsicle stick
so he could use it.
Yeah.
He could shoot the chopper.
Yeah.
take that bitch to his finger.
Yeah, this motherfucker had no fucking, and I'm like, bro.
He got gunned down, man.
Yeah, you think it's, man, there's so many
really, what about Meyball?
Oh, Meyball, fuck, that nigga
used to dress up like a woman, but he was a drug addict,
you know what I'm saying?
I think Meyball is in prison right now,
but Meyball, he was, he was known for,
he would dress up like a woman and come and get you.
And I'm like, I was, how y'all can't see that,
it's not a woman.
You know what I'm saying?
And this niggins would come to a block party and grab the mic, you know, because all these
niggas knew me. You know, they can be like, man, give me the mic, man. Fuck, hell.
The nigger said, hey, man, if y'all don't give me nothing, we ain't going to have a good time.
Now, if y'all nigs put some shit on the table and we could go back to having a good time, how y'all want to do it?
So he'll rob the party like that?
Yeah, that man, get on the mic.
With words.
Hey, man, y'all just put some money on the table.
Just give me a little stuff.
So we can.
So we can keep the party on your face.
Damn.
Do you name all the killers in your room.
rap son. It's getting me.
Oh, them niggas, that was the, they had the original Matt Black truck before Matt Black
was even made. You know what I'm saying? And this documented and when it was locked up, they had
a black truck that used to go to the, come through the projects. Yeah. And the front of that
bitch had homicide painted on it. No. And they had the little windows that slide that if you
seen that bitch coming through the courtway and somebody was going to get it.
Yeah. At a time like that, then y'all succeeded. Yeah. And escaped. Yeah.
Yeah.
But that was normal shit.
I know it was normal shit, but at that time, like even the Han video, like, just
in that breezeway.
Man, so many killers in that fucking video.
Oh, my God.
That breezeway was so dangerous.
I'm like, Julie, please get out that breezeway.
I got to ask about Soldier Slim.
Slim kind of had the same reputation as well.
But it's just like I said, a lot of these dudes had sense of humans if they knew you.
You know what I'm saying?
And you could joke with them, clown with them and all of that.
But if you didn't know them, don't fuck with them.
You know what I'm saying?
And I had people that was like other DJs that might have came from different places that like, hey, man, put me on.
Because I know them niggas's paying you a lot of money.
The drug did this.
I'm like, okay, I throw you out there.
And this nigga arguing with one of them niggas about the money.
Man, when are you going to give me my fucking money?
I'm like, hey, bro.
Don't do that.
Please.
Don't do that.
Don't argue, my man.
Don't do that.
There one video I love with Soldier Slam and B.G.
When they're in the studio.
Oh, they recording that junk right before
Yeah, and shit.
Slim kind of bounced around though a lot.
Slim was signed to everybody.
Not officially signed, but he did records with everybody.
He'd be at cash money one day and next day he had no limit.
And then he'll leave no limit.
Then he fucking with KL, whatever KL and them doing.
And nobody ain't never said nothing because it's Slim.
You know what I'm sad?
So it's just like, God damn, who you really side with?
And then you've been working with Mac since he was playing.
Yeah, since Mac was about nine.
I think like nine.
Yeah.
And Mia was in the group with us when she was young.
Oh.
Yeah, we had Max stop through here, very.
What was the name of y'all group?
New York Incorporated with Mia.
It was a dude, one of my homies from New York who, he was the one who came with like the real DJ shit.
Like I thought I was a DJ back then.
I just had a few little shit.
But my homie, then he came from New York, you know, and he grew up under Cut Creator and, you know, and Jam Master Jay.
And also he knew how to transform and all of that shit.
So it was like, man, we're getting with him.
You know, and he moved in my neighborhood.
So me and my homie, we joined, that was Wop cousin.
So we joined with him.
And Mia was going to a Catholic school at the time.
And Mia got in trouble with some shit.
And she had to go to, she stayed in our neighborhood, but of course, she didn't go to school with us.
And Mia got in trouble.
Then they put her in school, you know, she got, she had to go to school with us to the school that we went to.
And of course, you know, Mia just lit up.
Like, we was like, we know your ass rap.
She's like yeah I rap you know what I say like well come on fucking come get down with us getting the crew
Oh the bad kid or the Catholic school yeah
That shit do nigh help turn their ass up
Oh I gotta ask you about DG Derrick
Like you're gonna be here praising Jesus what's wrong who is that
Laird oh yeah bro Derek was actually one of the hot boys you know and Derek was on baby nym nephew like you know what I'm saying
but shit Derek was fucking boy he was a monster too
Derek had a few under his belt.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like Derek, at the height of the rap shit,
when motherfuckers started liking Derek,
Derek was like, boy, fuck this.
I'm out here.
I'm in the streets.
You know what I'm saying?
And you live by the gun and you die by the gun.
You see what I'm saying?
But Derek had potential of, you know what I'm saying,
being something because there was a lot of people that liked him.
And it was kind of like, the crazy thing is...
He had some good storyteller.
Yeah.
Turk took Derek praise.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I know you've seen
Gangster.
He got a podcast, really?
Yeah.
Bro, the crazy thing is,
even young.
Me and Gaster used to always rib, bro.
Yeah.
That's all we used to do
was crack fucking jokes.
You know what I'm saying?
And I never,
I knew about his background,
but that never came and surfaced
with us being young.
You know what I'm saying?
Because we would always just
fucking crack on each other
whenever we saw each other.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it would be like a fucking ribbon session.
Yeah.
As soon as I see you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I seen y'all did the verses.
And there was a lot of people, you know, on other podcasts that say that.
They were like, man, if you knew man a young, you've seen that motherfucker, he started ripping you.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
But motherfuckers knew that about me.
Like, you know, and when you knew, if you knew them dudes, you know, growing up,
there was just them type of people.
Like, you know, I knew who could play with him and who couldn't play with them.
But I definitely wasn't going to say no shit.
that I'm a rib you where you're gonna get mad.
Feel like you disrespectful.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I seen y'all did the verses.
Yeah.
How that was even though it was in LA.
I mean, Long Vegas.
I kind of, bro, that should need to be here, New Orleans, somewhere.
What was weird about that, first of all, it was good for the culture.
It was good that we could show that no limit in cash money.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can shut a stage.
And there's really never been no beef.
Right.
And I don't, I don't know, you know, how all of that really kind of came.
or whatever, but the crazy shit is we've been seeing each other's all of our lives.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I was literally, when they were signed, like, when Mia, Mack, K.L.
Feen, any of them, when they were signed a No Limit, and we went out on a Friday night,
we saw each other at the fucking house of blues or something.
And we all hung out and had drinks.
But I get it.
You had to be loyal to your side.
I had to be law.
But we never really had no internal beef or no shit.
Like what motherfuckers was like, man, maybe they want to kill each other.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
It was good to keep that stigma for business because motherfuckers were like, man, you know, but
everybody knew each other.
We all grew up to fucking gather.
Like, you know, especially in New Orleans.
This is a small little city.
So whoever did music, that's where you hung out with motherfuckers who did music, you know.
But to do that with, I think, what was it going on?
It was something going on.
It was something going when we was doing that.
What was the shit called, Jeff, when the versus the complex complex.
So the thing was that crowd really wasn't our crowd. That was people who kind of got in because of that
That was part of the sale of the ticket
That there was gonna have all of these free concerts and nothing against them because thank y'all for doing it in a paycheck
Thank y'all thing
But it wasn't the the crowd to me that deserved that you see what I'm saying
We should have did that shit somewhere in the dirty South
Yeah, yeah part about this thing can be done yeah well you know
We brought it back on y'all's stage in New Orleans a little bit.
Yeah, we brought it back so it still could be done.
Yeah.
I think the city just deserted.
Like you said, like it's cultural base.
Like, it shows like, first of all, we're from here.
And it shows like, look at all the things we overcame.
Not all the things we overcame.
Look what we've done for the city and from the world, my nigga.
Now, dig and want to ask you this on here, because we were talking about it and you said.
Like, you know, you were locked in with cash money for so long that you didn't really get to work outside the
circle yeah so when you did get to go outside the circle and find out that the whole industry
was like shit i've been trying to get yeah yeah yeah what was that like just to know that you like
amongst your peers that they thought you i was with i was with and i shit i even want to ask y'all this
have you ever experienced that because when you went you know shit i know like y'all background
and i'm explaining it so y'all could get like where y'all came from and sometimes when you
leave where you come from you got motherfuckers who man you ain't going to make you
it without that you ain't gonna make it without that machine you know what I'm saying
so when I when I stepped off from cash money I had a bunch of motherfuckers going
well you know damn dude that's it that's it for you what you're gonna do you fucking
done you know what I'm saying and my first shot at it was cheesy and then what I'm
saying and when that was me leaving you know what I'm saying so um and the one of the
things that kind of detoured me a little bit when I was doing and then what there was a
nigger in the corner telling jeez he like man that boom boom clap shit nigger that ain't gangster
you know what I said yeah there in the cake boom boom clap man you say that's
man you know so so but this name hell in the kid this new and they boom boom
people to me I don't know like I know juvie them you see what I'm saying so I don't know if he
gonna take this dude word for it you know what I'm saying
man, you know, he gonna let me, and he was like, hey, man, OG, dude saying, da-da-da-da.
Now, I was like, hey, bro, this is going to be the biggest part of the song.
And I remember telling you.
And it is the biggest part of the song.
I said, bro, this is going to be major in this song.
That song is about financial literacy and getting the business plan.
She's laid out all the steps.
First, I'm on stack my flow.
And then what?
Then I'm going to stack some more.
And then what?
What?
Close shop when I do my.
I count. Okay. The shop ain't open. Right.
The rest of the yams and my auntie y'all.
That means I'm going to take just what I need.
Right. And I'm about to invest the rest.
Yeah. And let me tell you all.
That nigga said boom, boom, clap. He said the sound of thing.
That was him fucking with us letting us know we do.
Boom, boom cap. Because we shouldn't have like, this beat so hard.
And he's like, nigga, all I did were boom, boom clap.
Yeah.
Let me show that, nigga. He was showing his ass on that one.
Yeah, I had to. I was like, oh, yeah, this bitch's got a.
Now, this is what's crazy.
So Boys in the Hood was on tour, you know, because Jesus was with that.
And they last stop was New Orleans.
So he hit me.
He said, hey, bro, are you coming to the show?
And the song had been out for, I think, like, two weeks, you know, the song and, you know,
and I'm trying not to pay attention to it because I'm like, man, I don't know if this is going to go good or fucking bad.
But I did my thing.
That's what I was fit.
But the song had been out for me.
And so he hit me and he said, hey, bro, I'm gonna be in New Orleans.
I'm doing the house of blues.
Are you coming?
I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna come.
So, boys in the hood on stage, they're performing.
You know what I'm saying?
And they do their last song.
And, you know, the fucking stage go black.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And he had a fucking, you know, like that five heartbeats moment where you know what I'm saying?
That nigger did with Flash did.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the thing I was like, yeah, it saddens me that I have to leave.
leave the group, but this is my new song.
You know what I'm saying?
And that motherfucker came on and the crowd went crazy.
Bro, I was crying.
I ain't going to even lie.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit made me feel like, yeah, I'm going to be all right.
Yeah.
I'm going to be all right.
You know what I'm saying?
You seen that niggie again who said the boom boom shit.
I haven't seen.
Oh, you low down dirty, son of a bitch.
And I bet that his favorite part too.
He in the car this.
Boom, boom.
Now we would be remiss than I ask you.
about this since we're in Atlanta and this is just having to be one of our close friends and
favorite rappers yeah you and tip get together y'all y'all we do special shit yeah always yeah
yeah yeah always yeah i think what it was with tip bro i always looked at tip like a little brother
you know from early on from i'm serious you know when tip would do shit you know i would call him
and getting his ass about it like you know like you know like i promise you could probably tell y'all
I aggravated them sometimes because I'm like,
nigga, why you out here beefing with these niggas?
Man, leave that bullshit alone.
Get out the streets.
And the nigga like, damn, fresh, brother,
there you go with that shit.
And I'm like, bro, nigga, you are a star.
I don't know if you know it yet,
but you're a star.
You know what I'm saying?
So I always looked at him like little brother.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So, and I even tried to get TIP signed to cash money.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And, you know, I brought him over there.
And of course, baby them being so super New Orleans,
they didn't see it you know they was just like i know you like this nigger but he ain't from where we
from and i'm like bro this dude is the future you know what i'm saying and to watch tip turn into
you know but but even when that happened i said to him hey bro i'm sorry it didn't work out but
whenever you need me and whatever you need me for i got you dude you know what i'm saying and of course
the first thing you know i did was the greatest great you know what i'm saying and so great
When I did that song, he was like,
nigga, they ain't the man that fresh out won't.
I want the fucking horns, nigga, and the d-da-da-l.
I was like, well, let me get this one all.
Let me get this one off, and I'm a double back.
You know what I'm saying?
Now, this just happened, you know, and so I was just talking to Tilt.
This was, what, two days ago, right?
And we was talking about how top back came along, right?
Who was the one that passed on the beach?
Jubey.
Yeah, Jewelby passed.
Yeah, so I did top back for Juvie and Tip had done the hook.
I said, hey bro, come by Tip Studio, come hear this song.
I got a banger for you.
He came in that bitch.
He was like, I don't like that shit.
That shit too loud.
You know what I'm saying?
And Tim was like, Maddie Fresh, I'm going to show these dicks what to do with what are you
beats?
You ain't know that's who you're talking about.
You ain't know that's who you're talking about.
I'm sure of these.
Listen.
That's crazy.
Because he was like, that nigga don't like that.
Where he said, I can have that?
I was like, you can have it, bro.
I'm going to show these d'n't.
As soon as the nigga, I'm going to press me called.
That was the first thing that nigga said.
I'm going to show these niggins.
Now, let me ask you this.
When you do get calls like that, when people want you to come and produce a record for them,
do they want you to come with some shit you already got?
Or do they want you to cook it on the spot?
I rather make it on the spot.
Really?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I'd rather find some shit that fit your personality.
Because I didn't grow up doing that shit like that where you send somebody some shit.
Where I'm like, nah, bro, let's make this shit.
Let's cater it to you.
I know that beat package is crazy.
Yeah, I got a bunch of beats.
You know what I'm saying?
But I find that I don't really have nothing to me is a hit that I sent somebody.
I don't have no songs that I sent to somebody.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, I'm like, this motherfucker, you know, you killed it.
Because I wasn't there to produce it to say, hey, you need snare rolls right there.
You need to drop this part out.
That shit is important to the song.
Now let me ask you this.
Do you work with up-and-coming artists?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the thing that we just said, it's hard to get an up-and-coming artist to understand what a producer do when they used to beat makers.
You know what I'm saying?
And they don't want you to tell them like, hey, bro, you could do that better.
Or that song don't fit this.
Like, that's not what this sound like, you know.
With them.
Yeah.
With them.
Yeah.
It's like, hey, bro, that's what you got me for.
You got me because this is my job.
This is, you know, so it's hard to get somebody new to do that.
And there's something that I always say where I fuck up at.
See, if you were a rapper and you picked up a drum machine, I'd be like, it's over.
This nigga, he's done.
Because I'm like, now you're doing this.
this job this not your job nigger write the raps when they could be in there talking about man i
made my own beats nigga i just i just need you to there's a few niggas that could do it but there's a lot
of niggas who can't that think they could do it and you just be like oh man this nigga got a horn
this nigga got a drum machine he didn't hit the do and i'm like bro you you fucking up bro
concentrate on the rap.
Hold up, man.
Hold up.
You only get them trump.
And they said, bop, bha, b'b.
That ain't it, man.
Nigger, like, I'm gonna play five of my beats.
I'm like, ah.
Okay, so hold on, I'm still stuck on this other story, right?
On this T, I top back story, right?
Because when he asked you to come back,
because now all look, hit me in the head at the same time.
Pause.
Yeah.
Because he said, nigger, I want one of the beats with the horns,
and all I can hear, bb, bb, b,
you, like, deliver a bit,
Deliberative is winning and just said all right I got the horn for you
Bebba whey bhae b b b bhae b b b b bhae because I'm in band so we play all that
I did that shit at tip studio so what was so cool like after that was that's another
after I left cash money you know tips place was always home
Grand Hustle was my home that was my shit y'all might as well say I was signed to
Grand Hustle because I was always there and you know what I'm saying we didn't know
So I was also when I did that beat.
I did that fucking beat, you know, but I was like, hey, bro, I'm doing something for Juvie.
You know, because that's my nigga.
He's still my nigga.
Man, and Juvie was signed to Atlantic at the time.
Juvie was like, I don't like that.
And the crazy thing is, like I said, two days ago, this is me, Juvie and Tip having this conversation.
And that nigga, Juvie said, my bad, bro.
I fucked up on that.
That shit was so cold.
I don't know.
Everybody's tight.
Yeah.
Oh, that little head.
How this shit came together?
I was always championed for Tump.
You know, with Tia.
I was like, nigga, you and Tump?
I'm like, y'all got something special the same way me and Juvie had something.
I'm like, I'm glad that we got some hits under our belt, me and you.
But I'm like, Tump is your fucking dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Tump went crazy.
Yeah.
I love him.
I love him.
Yeah.
And the shit he'd do with you.
and he he him for real yeah yeah that nice him for real they made some nice they made some nice
and jasmine yeah for show for show him and for sure hey let's get away on the other side of
town they fucking meet me at the hotel uh-huh uh-huh that's the puppy popper number one yeah
what's your name fresh i want to ask you this bro when you when you know you about to produce a whole
project is that beforehand or is that something that just end up happening that's what ends up
happening you know what I'm saying and I'm better at doing it that way right because what we're
missing right now is to connect with the the producer and the artist right you know when when you
have that person even if he picks beats for you from other people he knows you know your
sign your shit yeah you know you take what's a long career we're gonna think about it like you
know what I'm saying if you take Drake 40 is always you know picked everything for him or either
done it you know what I'm saying and when you trust that person your shit
gonna always sound like it's supposed to sonically sound.
If you get seven producers that's badass producers,
all of them gunning for the single.
So you might get seven of the same fucking songs.
Whatever music sound like right now,
instead of getting a producer who like,
we're gonna do some shit about politics today.
We're gonna save the fucking wells.
We're gonna do a trap beat.
We're gonna do, you know what I'm saying,
some other shit.
But if you get seven people to cater your album,
you only get motherfuckers who competing against each other.
They forgot that there's other subjects and other shit that we could talk about and other things that we could do.
They forgot it's art.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's art.
So it's kind of like up to the producer to kind of challenge the artist to get outside the box.
Yeah.
Because sometimes you got to tell, bro, let me tell you all something funny, funny, because we would be like, man, if we was making a song and I put on the board like, hey, today we're going to talk about politics, you know what I'm saying?
And all of the shit that's going on in New Orleans, you know, with corrupt.
cops and da-da-da-da and baby got on that bitch baby gonna start that bitch on with my it
rings cost 50 my fucking teak call all like hey bro we told you dick we talking about
yeah so he don't give a fuck about what's going on you know what's going on so we just like hey bro
We're gonna have to start moving you either on the intro or something or somewhere towards the end of this motherfucker
You know, we was you we was on I think it was sole train one time you know the nigger was asking us like so man you know what's been going on in y'all city you know
And what are y'all gonna do to help y'all people and y'all you know about some charity work and all of that that nigga baby said nigga you see these fucking rain
I'm like, hey, number one stutter, you know what I'm saying?
You got to be.
My nigger stutter.
You're starting to stop through.
Yeah, man.
He's going to clap it for sure.
Yeah, he'll give a fuck about what y'all talking about.
That thing is going to talk about his buddy and what's going to.
Yeah.
Pop your shit, OG.
Hey, man, when you part.
you part of a family like that in the in this turmoil in the family man do you get calls from both
sides oh yeah bro i think they look at me like like like the glue sometimes like you know they're
like man hit fresh up man tell him talk to dude talk to dude you know and our shit you know like anybody
else shit you know is a fucking work in progress like you know what i'm saying we there's some
healing that needs to happen there's some fucking sometimes talk and sometimes the fucking internet
is an awful place you know what to happen yeah for yeah
And I'm like shit if you got something to say to me man call me don't air that shit out that way
Use the internet as a tool use that shit as a you know like this is this is where you get to
Market your shit you know what I'm saying market and make money off of that shit don't make messy out mess out of that shit
Like you know and I think there's something that really really that that that really needs to be said in a loving way so so it could be
understood and i need platforms sometimes to say it like even like people always say will there be
another hot boys album or will they be you know certain things or whatever you know because you got
sometimes turk disgruntled about shit sometimes you got bg disgruntled about shit you know what i'm
saying but there's something that both of them got to hear from big brother and i'm big brother
there is a lot of shit throughout both of y'all careers and i and and i'll say
on bg is doing a whole lot better you know he's more receptive to hear me sometimes but there's a
lot of shit throughout both of y'all careers where y'all was missing y'all was missing you know what
i'm saying and and and i'm saying that with kindness when when you look back at a lot of cash money
pictures like you know like important pictures where it was an album cover or maybe it was just a magazine
a magazine or whatever one of them niggas was missing all throughout the
life of of this one of them was missing so i say that to say that bro this is the four quarter in the
world has accepted this but you got to humble yourself a little bit we we want to rebuild so just so
give it a second bro like let's rebuild but don't forget like you got to it's like any house you got to
learn how to build that motherfucker you got to learn this shit all over again you can't come
back with nigger i'm the man you know what i'm saying we we all
learning each other again like you know what I'm so in order for this to happen
fuck the internet fuck all of that call and let's fix it and let's figure it out and if we
can't figure it out it's all right we grown in I'll go left you go right the
the world is big enough for that shit you know but there's things that people that
that need you that that need your money and you know what I'm saying and they
they need to kiss your ass they ain't gonna tell you that they ain't gonna tell you that bro
part of the problem is you got to humble yourself sometimes is you you know that could be me that
could be anyone of y'all but if you really fuck with me as a friend or whatever you will tell me that
shit don't let me drive off a fucking bridge when you know that shit fucked up you know what i said if you
my friend tell me and i think a lot of us you know you got to surround yourself with real people
and you got to realize there's parts of the puzzle that you weren't there sometimes so you you
You're rebuilding.
You got you got to be comfortable enough to say, yeah, I got to rebuild this relationship again.
I got to prove this.
I got to prove that, you know what?
I get it.
And one of the sweet spots is this.
All of us making more money than we ever fucking made our whole careers.
Don't fucking, bro, don't waste that shit on some dumb ass words.
Don't waste that shit on wasting time.
On feelings.
Yeah, on some feelings.
All of us making more money than we ever fucking.
made in our life bro and it's crazy what they're paying us to be together you know what i'm and and was
even more was even more crazy and i like to say this to a lot of black people young and all of that
shit because it's real to me because because i think of my mom this way nigga what did your mama
make when she was growing up what did your daddy make what she raised you on yeah you know what
i'm saying well how much did she you you make that easily when she probably made a year and you
doing everything not to do it not to make it your mama probably had a shitty
ass job raising you but she did all that she could do and the best that she could
possibly do pay homage to her bro you feel what I'm saying pay homage to your
people like you know when when you can change a fucking curse when you like you
know I'm fuck we ain't got to be wealthy we just got to be hood rich that's
good enough if you know how to if you know how to fucking you know what I'm saying
What that you're talking about?
Yeah.
If you know how to balance that shit, come on, bro.
All of us are being there.
If you're not a stretch of dollars, you get it.
There you go.
Yeah.
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You can make $100,000 look good as a motherfucker if you put down south.
It is.
And you can make, and they offering that, all you got to do is shut the fuck up for three, four hours.
Yeah.
Fuck how you feel.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll get back to that other part later on.
Bro.
What the fuck?
for sure for sure yeah and it's a beautiful thing to see y'all together yeah and I want it
believe me I want it I just I'm like but bro we got to stop and I think some of the truths like even
what I said right now got to be told and it's got to be accepted in a manner of bro you're a grown
man you should be able to take that from me and not take it as an insult just just telling you the
God's honest truth there is a lot of times that you miss things like you know what I'm saying
And you coming back right now, you have to rebuild that structure.
You got to rebuild that trust.
You got to practice with us.
You know what I'm saying?
Because think about it.
Fuck, me and Julie have been on the road for forever.
But it's hard when somebody come in and they're like, well, I need all of this.
And we like, we can't get all of that yet, bro.
You got to earn that.
You got to earn that.
That's all we say it.
Humble yourself.
And on top of that, guess what?
Why are you earning it?
You still getting what you want.
You still get what you want.
If y'all niggas told me I was the fourth member of y'all show and y'all gave me equal pay,
I'm gonna shut the fuck up.
Y'all want me to chime in every now and then?
They'll be like, ding-dong.
Hell yeah.
And what you can make off of me.
Yeah.
Just chill and learn.
Just chill for a second and learn some things.
You know what I'm saying?
And then you all the way in there.
Yeah, it's 100% fine to operate on some new information.
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
Got to get that new information, man.
That's that bullshit.
Man, I can ask you all night, bro, but it's a lot of people in here and I know they want to ask you.
It's the O.G.
This is weird.
Oh, geez, that's, nigga.
I got a question.
What was your process for you making all those since that didn't, and how is your process changed?
I was how you create.
Um, I'm still like the same dude, like, when it comes to that.
I do fuck with technology.
I use Ableton right now,
but I find myself going back to the old way I did it,
like the one, two, ready, play.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I like the warmness of touching keys
and, you know what I'm saying,
in the drum machine, opposed to clicking the mouse.
Like, so my process is the same thing,
the MPC, the SP-200,
and a whole bunch of analog keyboards.
Like, the shit that I went,
I would buy keyboards like a DJ by records,
like just, and if it was one cool,
sound in it I knew with that if that keyboard was $2,500 I was like this bitch gonna make a
million dollars is one thing in it so I'm still buying it you know and you gotta look at shit
sometimes like that so different keyboards got different sounds yeah yeah yeah and just
on learning people shit learning people where you where you could you know make it your own
like I think at the height of me you know like when I was just like oh shit like I get it but
Something is changing a little bit.
And you know, here come Jazzy Faye.
You know what I'm saying?
And I learned a lot of shit from Jazzy, you know, where I'm just like, fuck, this
motherfucker is phenomenal.
You know what I'm saying?
For sure, for sure.
And Jazzy would do shit where he would put his little glasses down and he'll have a whole
bunch of motherfuckers in the studio.
And if the studio dancing, he's going with it.
Yep.
That nigga like, I'm like, goddamn the vibe.
That's how I got to start doing motherfucking music.
Now I know producers, y'all trade beat packages and sounds and shit like that.
Who you get shit from?
Everybody.
Back in the G, you could get shit from everybody.
You know, if I heard some shit Farrell done and I like it, I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
Get the horns.
And nobody.
Send me them horns.
What you did?
What you did?
And nobody got upset about shit.
Like, you know, oh, Farrell did what happened to that boy.
You know what I'm saying?
But there's a part in the fucking beat the do-dood-dood-d-d-d-d-d-d.
When I heard it, I said, I said, hey,
bro that my fucking need a kick in it like a he said man go ahead at it just do you know
do whatever you want to do to it you know what I'm saying and that wasn't a problem
you know back in the G now one of the one of the sweetest things was and everybody
in this business wish this around that time we all talk to each other so say if
somebody called Jazzy and they wanted a beat from Jazz and they offered Jazzy
50,000 dollars and Jazzy said no Jazzi called me he called Timberlin he
called all he said the motherfuckers gonna call you and off of 50 we you know we we need 70
and everybody stood on that shit yeah everybody don't undercut the fucking money you know what
I'm saying because next time it'll be 30 yeah yeah you know what I'm saying so that that was
the that was the creation of the super producer you know what I'm saying when people was like
these motherfuckers is hitting them over the head and they're but we had that that that
hey bro and you also had that phone call you like hey bro the motherfucker's gonna
call you. Don't take that
because you're going to fuck it up for all of us.
You know what I'm saying? And
in any other genre of music,
the shit is set up for you to make
more money the next time, the next
generation. Rap is the only one that
fucked that up. You know what I'm saying? It went
from, we was like, hey, bro, you
think about a Farrell, you know,
you think about a Mani Fresh, you think about
a Timberlin, you know what I'm saying? I'll
put Jazzy there. I'll put David Banner.
I'll put Lil John. You know what I'm saying?
All of these calibers of, you know,
this just when I was doing shit these dudes was getting some crazy fucking money to do beats and
just overnight we all quit we all quit because motherfuckers started doing it for hey it's a good
look you know like so yeah and I'm like hey bro and we start trying to talk to younger um producers
going hey bro that's not the way to set up we set this shit up for y'all to make more than we
made you're supposed to do bigger and better for you know y'all y'all y'all y'all
going you then gave me you you giving this shit away you know what I'm saying
then you had record companies calling you like hey bro dude little dude doing it you know
for this so you might want to like man I ain't fucking with that man I'm good
you know what I'm right and a lot of that diluted hip hop because you knew what a
Neptune sound like you knew what a manny fresh beat sounds like you know what I'm
saying that shit single-handedly you know what I'm saying was like what the
fuck there's no sound like you know what I'm saying
in this shit no more right you know and there's a lot of young dudes that got
played where somebody told you it was a good look and then when you start
asking for your money where you didn't had three or four hits and you're like
hey man I've been doing a good look as long as y'all be telling me now I got four
and give me they just replaced your ass with another carbon copy of you know what
is the life expectancy now with a fucking rapper and a producer and hip-hop you know what I'm
yeah a hot summer yeah
On to the net, maw it on to the next tag.
Just for that summer, soon as fall,
they ain't fucking with you no more.
Damn.
And y'all, you know, think about it in y'all world.
You know, it should be set up for this next generation
of comedians to do bigger and better things.
Not to go backwards.
Right.
And I feel like hip hop has been so deluded to everything
they fucking doing is backwards.
And I'm like, bro, you ain't gonna have that shit in country.
The motherfuckers make more than what the last generation make.
They, and it's easier for them too.
Our shit, we're just like, y'all niggas fighting over.
What?
You killed the nigggo.
You know, one of the most, um, craziest thing to me in the world is to hear somebody, you know, do an interview.
And they like, and they say, you know, like, I'm really a street nigga.
I don't really rap.
Well, get back to the streets, bro.
The streets need you.
The streets need you, bro.
Get out the way.
Get out the way and let a nigga who want to do this, do this, bro.
The fucking streets need you, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, this shit don't, I don't fucking do this shit.
No, yeah.
A, B, B, B.
Nigs, cat.
What, what rapper impressed you with their process after you did the beat and they got in the booth and you was surprised at that, that boy, that boy got it?
Oh, first way, you know what I'm saying?
Uh, his, he don't fucking, he Ben stopped writing raps.
Ben stopped, you know what I'm saying?
And the process is weird as shit because he'll walk around.
this room skate a little bit and da-da-da-da and say turn on the mic and I might have four or five
beats and he gonna go through all of the motherfuckers and I'm like you thought of all of this shit in a few minutes
like you know what I'm saying and we were saying to be a rapper alive for real bro and you got to think about
when somebody can take somebody else beat and own that motherfucker there's so many Wayne songs that are not
his fucking song like you know what I'm saying well you're like wait that was a Mike Jones song he just
owned that motherfucker
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Where, you're like, wait, all of these fucking songs, that's not hit.
You know, when you play the original one and somebody mad at you for playing the original.
Yeah, you're like, why the fuck you're playing that?
I'm like, the Wayne kill your shit.
That's how you know you got a hit though.
Yeah.
He only fucking with the hits.
It's a good hit.
Yeah.
Like he fucked up that ice cream paint job.
He went crazy on that bit.
Then that upgrades you.
That Beyonce joint?
Yeah.
What's that song when he'd be like, the one I had to ask you out for to go final?
G-5.
sitting on the yeah the Capone of Noriega yeah
dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun
I'm like he went crazy on that motherfucker yeah that motherfucker smack
yeah dedication one or two one of them ain't it
mm-mm he didn't no dedication that wasn't on the dedication
it wasn't on the dedication secondly tip you know what I'm saying tip is the same way
yeah tip I mean when he did top back it was kind of the same process you know
I don't know.
I ain't never listen to that song, sir.
Yeah, if something happened where he felt, all right, Julie.
And he just kind of like past and d-da-da-da and went in there and knocked that motherfucker out.
And by the time we did big things popping, it was the same shit.
He was waiting for me.
That boy was helping me break my equipment in.
Shut the shit up right here.
Shut the shit.
I mean, this shit.
It's big.
I seen that nigga do that for three verses.
That bitch.
That nigga stood there and wrapped all three of them.
All three of a month.
He was three verkan, shout him.
I'm just sitting there watching the nigga.
He's in the booth.
Yeah.
He did the whole song.
Oh, what song?
I don't know what song it was because I couldn't hear it.
I'm in the, this nigga went through three fucking versions, bro.
Just knocked them shit out.
Yeah.
He was the three very keen.
And you know what's hard though, bro, when you're doing that for that shit to be some big word shit.
Well, you're just like, God damn.
He's saying some shit that's actually intelligent.
It makes sense.
If you told me do a verse
And it's times where I don't write the shit
But I know you ain't gonna get no incredible shit out of me
You ain't gonna get no punch lines
Where you just like, you heard that shit
Like nah, nigga, I gotta stop it right that one
Right, right.
They ain't got brave power like that day.
You know how that nigga do that
They got a lot of music though.
You go out.
Studio and then you just start playing shit
I don't know if this the shit he just did
Or I don't heard every damn song
I never did
I got a question, you know?
Yes, sir.
I know you've been watching from a distance, you know.
Oh, I think the, um, he's the face of the NBA.
I know he just got it.
I don't know.
There you go, right?
Most, most, uh, certified artists in music history.
I think he is, he is, um, a new Tupac, bro.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
He is equivalent to that.
You know, you could go to jail right
and motherfuckers don't wait for you.
They waited for his ass.
And to see the following, like, you know, in concert,
what he doing?
You know, I'm like, God damn, this phenomenal.
So you can't take it away from him.
Like, his shit is fucking,
his following is crazy, crazy.
Yeah.
So I think, like, he, to me,
it's like, he is like a newer version
of what Tupac was.
And he would drop music nonstop.
Yeah, nonstop.
You been in studio, though?
Yeah, we've been in studio before.
We just kind of chopped it up on some real life shit.
Yeah.
I got a question.
Do you think it's easier to put a hard southbound and back in the back?
Yeah, I mean, I ain't even got to put you out shit.
You might get an app and do some shit and you put that bitch out there.
You know what I'm saying?
And one of the sweet things about right now is, fuck, trust yourself.
You ain't got to trust nobody.
because if you put your career in somebody hands
that don't give a fuck about you,
you're done.
You know what I'm saying?
And the thing is, you can't cheat yourself.
Spend your own money.
You're going to hustle for your own money.
You ain't going to hustle for my money.
You know what I'm saying?
Tell them that investing in music
is hard because you have to invest in yourself.
These motherfuck are going to make a song
and then you're going to blow up.
Yeah, this shit is real.
You know, go ahead.
Is there a disc in that?
between the older artists and the younger artists in new or no longer artists in new or yeah yeah
hell yeah fucking general in general you ain't got to be from new orleans just in general but
there's something that y'all i guess nobody fucking never said it and it's so easy and it's in a
handbook a lot of older artists couldn't fuck with younger artists because they was working on
their own shit they self a lot of older artists was in fucked-up deals and shit yeah you know what
what I'm saying and a lot of them niggas disgruntled so how the fuck they're gonna tell y'all
niggas do better you know what I'm saying there's so many older artists that's fucked up
like you know from yeah from it happening to them so they don't know how to tell a younger artist
hey bro this shit crazy as fuck them niggins still mad about to last till you know what I'm
in there 360 yeah I got a question what's your favorite drum machine
SB 1200 yeah I was gonna ask a question I was when people like sample your your your
and beefs and stuff like that.
How do you go about parenting?
Because, you know, sometimes you want your money,
but sometimes it's an honor for people to sample
with honor.
They ain't never an honor for me.
The law office of, I'm like,
I want my money.
The law office of Swanson and Thorndyke
will be calling you.
Swanson and Thornbike.
Yeah.
Some real lawyers.
They on the way.
They're going to tell you.
They're going to send you some shit where you're going to be like,
God damn, this shit really threatening.
This shit really good.
Sleep and desist.
One of my favorite albums ever when they say,
what's the album you don't skip on?
Get it how you live.
Okay.
Did you feel like that was going to be a classic?
Or everybody knows, like, hey, we got some shit.
My feeling is everything to me is that.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm somebody who manifests shit, bro.
I got on my fuckers' nerves growing up.
You know, I would write shit on a refrigerator.
Like, I'm going to make a million dollars.
And you know, you got a hater-ass girlfriend.
She's like, boy, take that stupid ass shit down.
Fuck you doing it, make me a cheese salad.
Put my fucking note back up there.
I need to see this shit every day.
Yeah, I need to see this shit every day.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
It's over show.
So fresh out of the young artists, who would you want to work with like now?
Fuck right now.
Damn, bro.
Fuck me.
I'm still young.
Fuck.
I'm dead.
Me.
Damn.
I don't really,
this is my process.
Make me come look for you.
Ooh.
You know what I'm saying?
Make enough noise to I'm gonna call your ass.
Oh yeah, definitely Russell.
But shit, even if we fuck with Russell,
we'd just be having fun.
And now Russell then said,
You know, I'm going to make this shit a business.
So, yeah, definitely, you know what I'm saying?
But the note, Russell is like, you know, whenever we was in the bait, this was some shit that, oh, shit, that's this nigga.
And I've seen this shit happen with people that are so important to hip hop where, you know, one day you're joking with them.
And the next day, they're a fucking star.
Two change.
You know, change used to hang around us.
Like, you know, he was our homie.
Young, he used to always come to the studio, fuck with us, blah, blah, blah, da, da.
And then you, you check.
out some shit you like nigga that's titty like this nigga raping i'm like this nigga snapping
i'm like this nigga is slapping like a stepdaddy i'm like god damn you ain't my child
you know ludicrous broke a lot of cash money he was he was on lover lover on the radio
station he broke a lot of our fucking records early on you know what i'm saying and just went on
that fucking Cadillac spills
Cadillac. I was like, this fucking
the DJ nigga from Atlanta. I was like,
get the fuck out of him.
Bold and bold.
He went crazy to.
Hell yeah, he did.
I was like, that nigga ain't speaking to nobody
no more.
But that nigga went on a
stupid-ass run.
That nigga went on a stupid run.
So, you know, to see that shit,
you know, like, that's work.
Right.
All of these dudes started from, you know,
Fuck, um, Chains and on Wayne been friends.
When he wasn't rapping, he just always hung with him.
And you know, and he was telling us, he told Wayne one time, man, you know I rap, right?
And Wayne just kind of was like, boy, get the fuck out of here.
Wayne was trying to hear that shit.
He didn't believe it.
Get the fuck out of here past the weave.
And look what, I mean, on his own merits.
Them niggins didn't do too.
That thing.
Yeah.
Shout out the chain, man.
Are you like in the podcast in space now versus the music?
It's cool with me, bro.
I like talking.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm playing catch up right now.
I'm trying to get all of it.
Anything that's on the table, I'm trying to get it.
You know what I'm saying?
So all of these doors that's opening for me, I'm going to try them.
You know, some of them ain't going to, some of them are not going to make it,
but some of them going to do it.
I believe in that.
And success, a lot of times.
is you you you got to go through a door go under it around it whatever you need to do
but you got to be brave enough to go through that motherfucker yeah yeah yeah there's a lot
of people who are not brave enough to do that oh money
fucking good old fashioned curse wait new hey hey hey good old fucking fashion
legal tinder stanking lincoln what keeps you doing
Hopefully it can sound like Grandpa Simpson
Fucking
What the fuck was that?
Hey, mannie.
Hey, man.
He's fucking.
Fucking dead white presidents.
Fucking dead white presidents.
I do it for Obama care.
I knew everybody in here with black.
Yeah, and I love this shit, too.
I love it, but yeah.
But if they called me to do a concert, you know,
and my manager's like, this is what they,
I was like, shit, nigger, where?
Transylvania, I'm nil.
We got you some more shit.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, sir.
Most 85 south of you.
Thank y'all, bro.
You did?
y'all.
No, you family, man.
I got a plethora of my South gear.
Yeah.
I just told y'all motherfuckers, y'all can't get rid of me, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he said you broke, my life, bing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Got to ha.
You know, my dog.
Play niggies, man.
What do you get some fresh, man?
Uh, man, fresh I already know I fought with him a long way, man.
I think one of my favorite thing is about Fresh, man.
We got to give people, you know, they fly around their hip, man.
Whatever you work with somebody, you tailor that sound.
of that sound to not get that person the damn area they're from.
Yeah.
Some of my favorite feature you did is some of the West Coast
used you make 10.
Yay.
But you took all the West Coast sounds
and you put many friends off over them bitches.
Yeah.
Same shit with TI, you made the shit victorious.
That's what with the horn.
And the shit.
And then with the king.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Bro.
Just I don't think people look at the layers of what you're
Would you be putting on the shit you'd be putting out?
Yeah.
So I just, you know, there ain't no question.
It's just a, what's your, what's your favorite area to dip into that's not, I guess, the New Orleans, man, Fresh Sound and everybody familiar.
Um, I liked, honestly, bro, the fucking debt row era of, um, when, when Snoopnam was on that, when I met you last night, when all of that shit had a sound.
Yeah, when that shit had went big pimping, like, you know, I was at the club one.
That's when I saw her face
She looked kinda catty
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
That shit, that's what you
That's when you knew what the West Coast song sounded like
You know what I'm saying? You like, I know where this shit come from
I other than my I like that shit like you know what I'm saying
Because that shit was you could tell it was a team of motherfuckers having fun
Yeah, yeah
Them songs resonate as y'all was having fun making these motherfuckers
Just pop in with the inappropriate shit
Oh no, she licking both balls
Let me y'all get all that work, I'm sexy.
Dad.
What my Snoo he says?
Oh, no, she licking boaths ball.
Oh, no, she licking boathsball.
He wasn't expecting that.
He was like, damn, not both ball, bitch.
You were both of your mouth?
Yeah, dude.
That niggas was crazy, man.
That shit was a whole movement for a long time
where he was like, and you know, in down south,
you could still play the game.
fucking songs. You know, we don't give up on shit like everybody else do.
Motherfuckers be like, that's old like she. Not to us put that bitch on.
We don't jam that motherfucker. I'll be telling people all the time. That was the worst part
about the East Coast, West Coast shit. Because down south, we listen to everybody's shit.
We listen to most of them of us. It wasn't the West Coast, but to find out that the East Coast
niggins ain't fuck with us, that shit was like, God damn.
Y'all ain't never, we thought that you were up there listening to our shit.
We listen to y'all shit.
Oh, no, they were listening to us.
But y'all were never listening to that.
None of anything.
Yeah.
Oh, that's bullshit.
What's the most of?
New Orleans or anywhere to have another group of guys that come together and make music like that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Somebody somewhere cooking that shit up right now.
You just got a, you know what I'm saying?
Bro, let me tell you something, dude.
And I've learned this from this.
This is my brother.
It's my younger brother.
I learned this from him.
And I'm not.
saying this for merits i'm not saying this for points i really mean this shit see when when when
y'all do something and i and i'm aiming this at you young and anybody young in here bro
y'all got to pray over that bro before y'all do it before y'all for whatever you doing because
there's spirits bro that that's people that don't like your ass and god will get them from around
you you know what i'm saying and watch how things happen so before you go into and you know and i learned
this because because you know I got a I got away from that when I got around them I was like you
know what this is what was missing this was missing right here when we did this everything was all right
when we did this before the show and everybody acknowledged everybody and everybody you know gave it up
and said what they appreciate the bottom and all of that when that went away when everybody was
too cool for that I'm too cool to be doing that dog we ain't going we ain't going to say the prayer
no more we ain't going to do that you know what I'm saying
Everything, you know, it's got a way of going, shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Because some shit will get moved away from you.
It might even cost you some money.
You fucked up if you let it back in.
You got a crazy-ass uncle that asks the bar of $200.
You know he ain't going to pay you back.
Give his fucking ass to $200.
And I ain't never coming back.
He ain't never coming back.
You moved him completely out your life.
You know what I'm saying?
It might have cost that.
But there's shit around, I think with young groups and young people, they don't take the time to evaluate and eliminate.
You know what I'm?
And one of the things, like I said, you got to talk to the man sometimes and ask them to get what was good for me, keep it around me.
It was bad for me moving.
Move it out my circle.
Like, and watch what happened, bro.
You'll have success.
You might be, you might not even supposed to be in the group.
It might just shit.
Something might tell you, bro, you it.
You it.
you like hey
I'm Bigfoot y'all diggers the toes
you
know what he said
got to keep it
I got one question
before we get up out of here
because I know you got a row
well
keeps you go
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On the Adventures of Curiosity Cove podcasts, when peanut butter disappears from school, Ella, Scout, and Layla launch a full detective mission.
Their search leads them back in time to meet a brilliant inventor whose curiosity changed the world.
In this Black History Month adventure, asking questions, thinking creatively, can lead to amazing discoveries.
Listen to Adventures of Curiosity Cove every Monday from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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