The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Tariq Nasheed in the Trap!

Episode Date: January 13, 2023

Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean welcome the highly knowledgeable Tariq Nasheed into the new 85 SOUTH Trap! He discusses hidden racism, the KKK, and much more. Tariq talks about his documen...tary series Hidden Colors, plus black communities and their place in American history.  || Subscribe to 85 SOUTH on YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/The85SouthShow || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.com  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:33 or wherever you go to find your podcast. He's about to come out. Oh yeah, I'm going to see like he had an interest. He's about to come out, and he'll come in. Baby, Bip, bim, bha, bha, bha, bha, bha. Get. You're going to have your own band playing behind you. Good big nigger with a hand drum.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Talk about, b, gait. Daddy. Uh-oh. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I like how we got one speaker. We used to have a whole sound system. We didn't have shit.
Starting point is 00:03:32 They had it. Now we got one speaker. Damn. It's okay. We're in the rebuilding phase. Exactly. I thought that was our speakers. Damn.
Starting point is 00:03:42 You only got one speaker, my boy. No, we got another one, but that ain't hooked up to the other one. Craig, we only got one speaker, bro. Chris put the chicken down like he tired of us asking him for shit. For shit. God damn it. Oh, you been here for about two hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:02 One, no cap. We can't play with it time. You know that, though. He see the blackness that's going on right here. That's why he's been extremely patient with it. Yeah, that OG got the patience of Joe today. We're saying it by. Got a bit left on you, niggas.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're left on you niggins and went live. Them niggas ain't got shit going right over that motherfucker. going right over that motherfucker what's the strip club down this way I don't know what's the strip club out this way someone over here uh it's diamond diamond that's the one I'll shoot up the diamonds right quick and I'll be back we're almost in there
Starting point is 00:04:42 I'm gonna get out this shit what's your own Instagram this shit drinker she don't be talking about this is gonna be trying to make me feel like I ain't important no more You should be talking about nothing. Instagram don't be talking about a whole bunch of shit. Hell no. I think we had too much fun on it in the beginning. We were lit, because people were just not showing who they really were. You're like, I can't believe it what they're motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Now you know what going on. Now you don't want to show you how they really are. They're trying to switch it around. God damn. Yeah. Well, that's how you wake up the room. Well, that shit came wrong. Now we got two speakers.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Now we got two speakers. Dang, that shit was loud like he came in front of the sky, right? Man, I almost blew my high, y'all. Everybody jumped the labor later. I was like, oh, past my pistol. Hey. We're doing the show behind a fence today, my boy. No cap.
Starting point is 00:05:42 We're in the backyard just talking big shit. We went from the trap to the backyard. Uh-huh. But it's temporary though. Sadlock right there. Yeah, it's temporary. It's gonna be a big old dog. Because you know we're then moved into the new studio, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:52 We over here. 85 ways. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They said they went ready.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I was like, make it ready. They dare show said that and I was like, hold up wait. Our fence ain't scraped. Let's do another day. But we couldn't so we had it come this way. Yeah. We didn't look. Hey, it's temporary, man.
Starting point is 00:06:18 That's beautiful because it's ours, man. Yeah. It belong to us. It's a result of hot. All work. Still in the trap, nigger. You know what I mean? You just upgraded, man.
Starting point is 00:06:27 You got a place for us to come and be in charge and run shit the way we want to run it, man. That's what it's about. It's like when you get a new spot and you got to sleep on an ad mattress for two nights till your bed come. Right. For two nights, two months. Man, you just be thugging like that. Could I stay in that morocco? You like, this shit lit.
Starting point is 00:06:46 No cap. We the landlords. Pay who? Who? No landlord. You're right. And now that I'm looking around, I really want to say, man, because somebody got dead light on.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah. We definitely got to pay the electric bill. We can't get about two and ain't got no landlord. We still got a pay the electric bill in this moment. Y'all got a deal with my life bill. We might have to see what it look like with the house lights off. Oh, said it. God damn.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Like y'all can't see it. Because these motherfuckers die house, so it looks like we in the house. So it looks like we in the front time. We'll look like we're gonna work the lights, yeah. They don't go off. Can't get to do it on his phone. What you mean you know, y'all didn't figure them. Ryan got me on his phone.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You don't got the shit on your phone? You can cut the keys, y'all. You can cut them motherfuckers like me. These permanent. What you mean? Y'all didn't know how to cut them off. They were dog when we came in, huh? Not in here.
Starting point is 00:07:49 That'd have been on the motion sensor. Oh, well, sit y'all ass down. Stop acting like you're doing something important. Everybody stood up like that's gonna make it happen. Don't taste me. Didn't go nowhere. We didn't go to the other side of the room. It don't matter.
Starting point is 00:08:02 We ain't here today though, D.C. And we get ready to keep this show real black. No cap. I'm talking about black like a hair cut on the front porch. I'm talking about black like when your sister got her ear burnt because your mom was pressing a half for East of Sunday. Or she did it on purpose. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I'm talking about black like having a car in y'all y'all, y'all. They don't run no more, but they got all the baby clothes in it. Yep, you're in the storage. Right. I'm talking about black, like your dog's black, and he don't eat dog food. He just eat the shit that y'all didn't make it to. No cap. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'm talking about black. Like, you know your mama a good lady, but she got almost one too many baby dad is black. Like, if she had one more, then you're a judge. Right. Like, everybody got like two kids a piece. Every dad got two kids a piece. Right. And then she liked them for real.
Starting point is 00:08:48 No cap, no cap. Right. I feel what you're saying. I'm talking about for everybody who grew up in the hood and your grandma was loose. Everybody grandma in the hood got one baby daddy that they don't want to talk about. It's always your uncle daddy. And he always got his own daddy. Ain't that crazy? Right.
Starting point is 00:09:02 How do he do that? Out of 12 a kid. He got his own dad. He got his own dad. That crazy. Grim-mama loose. I'm talking about we're about to keep it. It's so black.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And we got a very special guest in the house with us today. How can talk, man. Now, I don't even know where to start. I start with, first of all, he's an activist. Uh-huh, sir. He's an author. Producer. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Producer. Uh-huh. A hell of a writer. Yes, he do. A singer. Oh, yeah, he is. Uh, mufeng makes some cold-ass music. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 00:09:35 One of the brothers that, they were like, when he speaks, people, listen, because we believe what he's saying, and we know that he knows what the fuck he's talking about. Right. Right. He then gave us hit after hit, volume after volume of hidden colors. Then put us up on so much information that we weren't even previous. to as a black community. Talk your talk. I feel like he's very important to the culture
Starting point is 00:09:53 and where we're going and gotten the conscience of all of that. We've been trying to put this shit together for a minute and we finally made it happen on our move in day. None other than. Who? Tarika Nishid. Yes. You love that intro, man.
Starting point is 00:10:07 That's the good one. You're just here. You deserve it. Finally. First of all, you're back with your brothers for the longest, man. Much respect to you and much love to all the work that you're doing. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:10:18 You're speaking life into the community, man. How did all this start? Man, I started doing the Hidden Color series, but let's go back. Because I've done stuff way before hitting color. One of the main was, I got to say, the Mac Within. Yes. The Mac Within, I read this book when I was in middle school, man, and this is still one of the best books that I've ever read
Starting point is 00:10:39 because it teaches you how to empower yourself as a man and the things that you need to know as a man, not just from what you need to do in regards to your interactions, with women, but what you need to do in regards to your interactions within yourself. And they always try to bring that book up, like when you go on big platforms to try to discredit the shit that you're saying,
Starting point is 00:10:56 they're like, oh, he wrote a book about being a pimp. No, it's not about being a pen. You feel me about the title with the white people, and they always try to make it seem like he was pimping and pandering him and all that type of bullshit. Right, and the book was nothing like that. Right. We had the Mac Within and before the Mac Within,
Starting point is 00:11:11 we had a book called The Art of Macon. I wrote the book in 99, came out in 2000, huge bestselling book. So, a quarter of a million copies. We did that up. And I wrote that book at the time. You had a bunch of books out, like men are from Mars, women are from Venus, all of these relationship books
Starting point is 00:11:29 that was telling men corny shit, that really didn't work. So at the time, I said, I want to tell dudes real relationship advice from a real guy's perspective unapologetically. So I said, I'm going to have a book called The Art of Macon talking about how to holler, how to get your shit together, how to carry yourself as a man, from a lot of the street perspectives. and people respected where I was coming from. Women got that book more than men at one point.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Women wanted to see how we really thought as men. Because when dudes write books for women, they know dudes are kind of putting on a facade. Pandering? They know they're pandering. And women don't like a nigga who's pandering. I've seen some of you guys, your live shows. When you guys are keeping them 100,
Starting point is 00:12:06 the women fans are into it more than the dudes. Women respect the dude who's going to be brutally honest with them. And that's what I was doing with my books. it took off and I created a whole lane, man. The whole pickup artist lane started because of that. Then I morphed into talking about relationships as it relates to race. Because all of that ties into the same thing too.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Around 2010, I started producing a film called Hidden Colors. And I started doing that because at the time, a lot of the movies that were out were like the blindside, the help, the butler, stuff like that. and movies that were disempowering. The white savior movies. Yeah, we would come out. I remember seeing precious
Starting point is 00:12:49 and seeing the black people coming out of the movie theater just deflated. That movie just killed our spirit. And movies like that would kill our spirit. So I said, we need to counter that stuff. We need to have something that balances all of this negativity out. So I said, I'm going to put together a movie that's so damn black and unapologetic
Starting point is 00:13:09 and going in on white supremacy. because a lot of people are afraid to do that. When we talk about racism, we make this shit real vague. Well, racism is out there, but there's some discrimination. There's some hatred. There's some bigotry. Now, let's put a name on it. There's a certain group within the dominant society
Starting point is 00:13:25 who practiced something called white supremacy, racism. Let's call that out, and then let's take it from there. So I did the Hidden Color series, well, I did the first Hidden Colors. 2011, no movie had been done like that before where you're just talking about all of this untold black history. I didn't know how people were going to receive the movie We had a screening in Los Angeles And we had a screening in some other cities
Starting point is 00:13:48 And I'm in the theater with a hat on like If people don't like this shit I'm gonna sneak up out of here And after the movie was done People just sat there in shock It was like people had to be debriefed Because they've never seen all of that information About themselves that was so powerful
Starting point is 00:14:03 And the series just took off from there We have five volumes We did head colors 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Then I did a movie called 1804 about the history of Haiti. My last film was a film called Buckbreaking that talked about the sexual exploitation that has been done to black people and the sexual agendas.
Starting point is 00:14:22 So that one was a huge seller. So, you know, I just found my lane with the movie game, man. Well, you know what was really impressive about the movies, though? It's like some of the information that you have in there. Like you can tell that it's well researched. Like you had the clip of George Washington, Carver's actual actual speaking voice yeah a lot of folks never heard him speak
Starting point is 00:14:43 exactly yeah it'd be shit like that that'll fuck you up and like the the pictures of sarah bartman yeah outside of you know the one that's famous so it's like you go deep into this shit and it'd be fucking me up just to sit there and watch this that's why it's hidden there's a lot of information that they'll just tell you half of it they don't tell you the other half George Washington Carver speaking to him this brother his voice was very high-pitched right and a lot of folks didn't know that his voice was high-pitched because they castrated him when he was a kid because he was adopted by a white family. They didn't want him having sex with their daughter. Right. You see? There's so much hidden history. Everywhere you go, it's hidden.
Starting point is 00:15:16 We're in Atlanta right now. You go into the heart of Atlanta, there's a statue of Henry Grady. And you hear people in Atlanta say that they're Grady babies. It's Grady Hospital, Grady School. Henry Grady was known for being a white supremacist. His job was to come down to the South and to the South and the North after the Civil War saying, hey, look, we're all white, we have to maintain white supremacy and keep these Negroes down. That is our job. And that's the only thing he's known for. A lot of folks don't know that. He's not a politician. He wasn't a bank owner. He wasn't no businessman. He was just known as the white supremacists of his day. And there's a big-ass statue in the middle of Atlanta of Henry Grady. You see? There's hidden history all over
Starting point is 00:15:56 the place. I was just in Kennesaw the other day. I have a museum. We just bought a museum in Los Angeles, called the Hidden History Museum. Thank you. You got to go through here. People don't understand outside of Atlanta, it's a whole different damn world. The rest of Georgia is not like Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:16:15 So we went 30 minutes outside of Atlanta. We went to Kennesaw. We were looking for some artifacts for our museum. There's a Klan store right in Kinnasaw. They frame it as a Civil War store, but inside the store, they have clan memorabilia. They have
Starting point is 00:16:30 nigger dolls literally with the word nigger dolls for sale in this thing right in Kennesaw and they've been trying to get rid of this store and get it up out of there. This just showed, yeah, it's been on the news. So this just shows how deeply ingrained anti-black racism is and how close it is to
Starting point is 00:16:46 us and we don't really see it like we should. And it's surprisingly a lot of places like that. I did a thing up in Tennessee and this guy calls himself the father of the Confederacy and he has a store where he has all types of racism, memorabilia. and all types of, I mean, pictures of black people
Starting point is 00:17:04 that you can come by and targets and shit. All types of stuff that's just available and open. The Klan was started in Tennessee. Yeah, no. Nathan, Bethwood, Bedford Forrest. Nathan, yeah, yeah. They started the Klan out there in Tennessee. So they're real big on that, that memorabilia
Starting point is 00:17:22 and that imagery. And they sell a lot of this stuff on the underground. A lot of these trinkets of black folks getting lynched and hung, and they actually still sell body parts of black people because remember when black people were getting lynched, they would sever the body parts and sell them on the underground. When Nat Turner got killed, they would sell his body parts and they boiled his body and sold the oil.
Starting point is 00:17:44 The family of Naturna just got his skull back a few years ago because they were selling his skull on the underground. So these people, they do some real sick stuff out of you, man. Wow. Podcasts in Rococo Punch, this is the Turning, River Road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man?
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Starting point is 00:22:40 Speaking of the Hidden Colors movies, you, in my opinion, are responsible for introducing the world to a lot of the people that we know now. Yeah. That, you know, the people that we look to as, you know, influences in the woke community. Right. Like, how was your vetting process? and finding these people. Did you have one or did you just let them come to you? I looked out for them. When I first started doing Hidden Colors, the way I was going to do it at first, it was just going to be me on film talking about history. And the film was going to be called
Starting point is 00:23:10 secret niggas. So I said, oh, that might be a little too rough. That's a mixtape. Yeah, yeah, that's a mixtape. Secret niggas. Taking over the underground bell, bro. You did. Harriet, I see you. DJ Couta! For real.
Starting point is 00:23:31 So I said, I want this to play in school. So let me be, you know, because if you look at the Hidden Colors films, most of them, we don't do a lot of profanity in them. Hidden Colors 5, we do a little cursing in there, but most of them is very clean because I want them in schools. So I said, let me do, let me change the name. Let me call it Hidden Colors, and let me get a lot of scholars that I study that I like. A lot of these scholars were popular on the underground scene, but they just kind of, to almost retire to a certain degree. So I started getting some of the people
Starting point is 00:23:58 that I loved and respected, like Dr. Francis Kress Welsing, who's a genius and who's very underrated, and we're doing a lot of things paying homage to her in our museum because she wrote a book called the ISIS Papers that really broke down systematic white supremacy and how we need to understand it. The ISIS Papers, the Keys
Starting point is 00:24:14 to the Color. She was a brilliant psychiatrist up in D.C., my brother Chico's hometown. Yes, sir. And this sister was very controversial because she broke racism down and made it simple by saying white supremacy and systematic racism is about genetic survival of the dominant society. The root of them practicing racism is for their survival because interacting and mixing with black people, the offspring is going to be black. So in order to thwart that, you have to control black sexuality. That's why when black people were lynched,
Starting point is 00:24:47 they were castrated. That's why they had miscegenation laws that prevented black people from marrying those in the dominant society. So she broke that down and that woke up a lot of people. Then I started getting other scholars like Dr. Caba, brother James Small, brother Phil Valentine. Nas was in one of my things. I had so many phenomenal people in the Hidden Color series and it just took off from there.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So what started your journey? What made you wanna go this route to just enlighten black people on the real, what's going on in the real world? You know what, because we needed it. And we always say stuff like, well, somebody needs to make a movie about history. See, we get into that thing. Somebody needs to do this. It would be good if somebody made a
Starting point is 00:25:27 movie talking about the real revolutionaries. It would be good. And nobody ever steps up and do it, doesn't. You know what I'm saying? So I said, let me do it. I know a little bit about television when I was writing my relationship books. I would do a lot of stuff with VH1 and MTV. So I would look at a lot of stuff behind the scenes and kind of pick up some game. And I said, okay, let me just give it a shot. I'll put together something and see how it goes. And it just took off from there. Well, speaking the game, man, like I said, I got to hop back on that book to Mac Within just because it was so influential to me. Like, you know, and you're talking about doing everything that you're doing for the black community, like at that stage in your life and career, what made you want to get that level of game out?
Starting point is 00:26:08 Because, you know, that's one of the main rules. Yeah, you know. To be sold, not to be told, but it's like, you know, you put it in the book and gave it out pretty much to whoever wanted to, you know, have it. What made you want to do that? And there's also a saying the game is for those who are worthy of receiving the game. You understand? Run it back, running back, running back. The game is for those who are worthy of receiving the game.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Because sometimes you give some game to a nigger who ain't really there mentally. He'll take the game and fuck it up. He'll take it and revamp it and do something goofy with it. You understand? Really pimp. Yeah, yeah. So when I wrote the book, The Art of Mac, and at the time, I was a single dude, and me and my friends, we would just kind of challenge ourselves using different techniques.
Starting point is 00:26:48 on how to deal with women in the clubs and the dating scene. And I learned, man, the way you deal with women and the way you deal with relationships, that's the way you deal with business. If you straight up and down and you are headstrong in your relationships, you're going to carry on that same mindset into your business dealings.
Starting point is 00:27:04 You can look at a dude and see how he does business, by the way he treats his chick. If he's a shady nigga beating on his broad and doing a little deceptive stuff, you can't really trust that nigga on some business shit, you know what I'm saying? So the way we deal with business, oftentimes coincide with the way we deal in relationships.
Starting point is 00:27:21 That's why it's all about how you carry yourself as a man. That's the number one thing when it comes to dating and relationships. Because when I put the books out, people always ask me, well, what, are there any lines you can give me to say to women? I tell dudes all the time, man, it don't matter what you say is how you carry yourself. Because some of the most powerful dudes are silent dudes who don't have to say nothing. It's just a vibe that they have.
Starting point is 00:27:44 It's a certain confidence that they have. That's what women feel, man. Women feel dudes energy. Your words are inconsequential. If you have the right vibe, the right confidence, and the right energy, you can say anything to a woman and they'll feel that shit. Right. So who was some of the people that's so worthy of you being a recipient of the game? Yeah, there were some players out there in L.A. that I soaked up a lot of game from, especially in Oakland. I hung around a lot of Oaktown players who would come down from L.A., and I would just soak up game with those guys, just being in the streets with them, just peeping them.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And I always say, man, you can learn stuff from everybody from all walks of life. Man, if you hang around a drug dealer, you might learn something positive from that drug dealer. You might learn how this dude works his books and keeps his numbers together. You know what I'm saying? You can find something positive out of anything. Not that you have to follow that path. I always tell people you don't really want to touch that street shit if it ain't in here. The shit got to be in you, not on you.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And that's why so many niggas get caught up out here because they see some shit on TV or a rap record. And they say, let me go out here and start trapping. And let me go out here and put somebody on the blade. and you go out here and get your throat slip because you plan with this shit and you've got to be down with it 100% and it's a mindset that goes with that, that is not glamorous.
Starting point is 00:28:53 The streets is not as glamorous as people make it seem. All the players and hustlers I know are paranoid, they're always looking over their shoulder, and when you get in the game, your next mindset should be how are you going to cycle out the game? You can't be in the game forever.
Starting point is 00:29:07 The minute you get in the street shit and you get a good stride going, you should be planning an exit strategy. When you write, you're right. Keep going. Keep going. I want to cut in your own. Yes, indeed. But yeah, you see a lot of dudes who get caught up on some street shit are niggas who never wanted to get out the game. They want to stay in the game forever. Like those Frank Lucas type niggas. You're 60 years old still trying to trap. No, nigga, get legit and get up out of that shit. Like white boys do.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Like the white boys, they get into all types of illegal shit. Like the Kennedys. Yeah, the Kennedys. Trump. Yeah. Trump's dad was out there at a whole house. him saying his granddad his grandfather the kennedy's they were trapping liquor you know a lot of these powerful families they started off on some street shit you did and then they cycled out of the game and then they got legit black people were doing that for a minute you have the jones brothers and brothers up there in chicago who were the numbers runners they were running numbers they were the ones who basically gave the government the idea for the lottery the government gets a lot of
Starting point is 00:30:07 ideas from us they weren't doing lottery they get a lot of shit from us um even the free lunch program. They weren't doing free lunch until the Black Panthers were doing that. You did? They get a lot of stuff from us. We as foundation of black Americans, we created a whole bunch of shit that's never talking about. I don't remember which volume it was, but you got an excerpt about black people and gold teeth. You were talking about. What was I saying about it? You were saying that that started like right after slavery, the slaves started putting like gold on their teeth. Well, we talked about this in a new movie. We got a new movie called American Maroon talking about black people.
Starting point is 00:30:42 who got off these plantations and started killing these slave owners and living in the swamps. There's a big swamp in Virginia, North Carolina called the Great Dismal Swamp. That's where a lot of black folks would live after they would escape slavery. Then they would go back and forth
Starting point is 00:30:56 from the Carolinas to Florida. Florida was a big maroon colony. They had something called the Seminole War. That was really a slave rebellion and that was one of the most successful slave rebellions but they never frame it like that. They frame it as an Indian war because they don't want to give the impression
Starting point is 00:31:11 that the government lost to a bunch of black people. Florida had a bunch of black people with gold teeth and dreadlocks, beating the shit out of the white supremacists and burning down plantations, and nobody ever talks about it. Man. Yeah, see, that's the shit I was talking about.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It's like, you mean coming up with shit like that and it'd be like, nigga what the fuck we gonna find the rest of this shit in? Yeah. Yeah, and it's like, of all that information, like, what piece of information shocked you the most? Like, of all the things that you
Starting point is 00:31:41 given to the public like what shocked you the most that you've learned could you be searching all right and the tail on it is like have you found some shit that you was like i can't say that i can't put this out i'm trying to see what has shocked me because we've done so much and the alligator base shit yeah that was some heavy stuff what happened yeah they would um during the 1800s early 1900s white people would kidnap black kids in florida and use black babies to base alligators. They would tie black babies up and put them out in the swamps and let alligators eat them so they can capture the alligators. They have gator bait memorabilia in museums and stores, especially in Florida. They would do some real
Starting point is 00:32:25 sick shit, man. They would do some real sick stuff out here and we have to call that stuff out. One of the sick things that kind of shocked me, well I won't even say shock me, but they would rape a lot of black men on plantations and that's something that's never talked about. We talked about that in my movie bug breaking. This was very much so in Jamaica. Jamaica was a slave breaking plantation. If a slave didn't get his mind right, they would send them to Jamaica. They would rape brothers in Jamaica. That's why today, Jamaicans hate homosexuality. They're very much against it, and that's why, because of the culture of it, people always talk about
Starting point is 00:33:01 the homophobia in Jamaica, but they never put it in the right cultural context. damn man like this like this not disenfranchising to you when you reading this shit and getting all this information like you can't even like man fuck it nigga I used to make furniture out of black
Starting point is 00:33:18 people yeah yeah but you know what they still got this shit but I don't get depressed about it because for every bad we have to look at some of the great things that we've done we created damn near everything that's in the household Foundation of Black Americans, we created the modern doorknob.
Starting point is 00:33:37 We created the modern toilets. We created the modern refrigerator. When you look at light bulbs, that was really created by a black man named Lewis Latimer. They tried to give it to Thomas Edison. Thomas Edison was a patent office guy. He didn't really create shit. He was infamous for stealing creations, especially from black people. There was a black man who he actually went to court to try to sue Gameful T.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And Edison lost. Now, if a white man is losing to a black man in the 1800s, that black man is innocent like a motherfucker. Oh, I got to get you to talk about that black car company you just talked about it too. The brother had the black car company first. Yeah, yeah. Before Ford really got it popping, you had some brothers in Ohio. And I cannot think of their name right now, but it was a black car company. And these brothers made these cars by hand.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And these were some of the best made cars. And Ford basically beat them out because Ford had a plant where he would mass produce the cars. Plus, Ford was working with our brother, George Washington Carver, and George Washington Carver was giving Henry Ford the game. In fact, people try to dismiss George Washington Carver as just somebody who made some damn peanut butter. That's bullshit. He's the father of bioengineering. Nobody was doing bioengineering, meaning getting stuff from the earth and converting that into chemicals that can be used in plants. George Washington Carver was the first person to do that. And he was Henry Ford's right-hand man.
Starting point is 00:35:01 He was giving Henry Ford all the game. And there was a lot of black people who were giving these corporations the game. It was a sister from North Carolina who created the first maxi pads in America. A lot of folks don't know that. Sanitary napkins is a sister created that, and they stole that idea from her. There was a black man, I think he was from Indiana. He created potato chips. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:20 There was another black man who created the modern macaroni and cheese. That was Thomas Jefferson's slave, a brother named Hamilton. That was Sally Hemings' brother who created modern mac and cheese. A lot of folks don't know that, man. created so much stuff. So I don't, I don't get bonded. Are you going to ever do some, just like, about the black cowboys? Yeah, we're doing that in this new movie, about the Seminoles, the Black Seminoles. Pay goes Bill.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a lot of brothers and sisters who were coming from Florida. After the Seminole War, they sent a lot of black people to Oklahoma. That's Indian territory, all right? You had a lot of outlaws out there. You had a brother named Bass Reeves. Bass Reeves, who we had. Bad ass motherfucker, man. He was living with the Seminoes. they got the lone ranger from him because he was a black Seminole he was with the Black Seminoes he was a law man he was arresting people
Starting point is 00:36:11 he was very thorough he had an Indian sidekick so they were like yeah we gotta depict him in a show but we gotta make him white but we'll give him a black mask all right so that's another part of the hidden history they still a lot of shit from us yeah I read a book called The New Negro by Alan Locke and it's a book about the perspective of black people the New Negroes but it was written in 1924
Starting point is 00:36:33 I believe. So all of the progressive Negroes that we know now as legendary were young men in this book giving their perspective to Duke Ellington's, all of these different people. And to know that I didn't know, I went to school in North Carolina and I didn't know that Durham, North Carolina was like the original Black Wall Street. Absolutely. I had no idea. I'm thinking that Black Wall Street was, you know, was the Tollis. But it was originally Durham, North Carolina. It was so, and then a lot of the buildings in Durham, North Carolina are still named after these Black Wall Street was, you know, was the Tollis. It was Tolstead. But it was totally. And then a lot of the buildings in Durham, North Carolina are still named after these black. black people who were doctors and lawyers and insurance company owners and that's like what do you think is the reason they keep the real reason they keep that from us in schools because they don't want to give us that type of knowledge because they don't want to give us any ideas on how to replicate it there were black wall streets all over the country in california we had um in los in los angeles that was the black wall street of los angeles in detroit they had Hastings Street. Down in Miami, they had a black Wall Street type of area. But what they would do, they would destroy those areas purposely by building freeways next to them. If you go to any
Starting point is 00:37:40 black town, any major town, and see where the freeways are, they were, I can almost guarantee it was a black town there, and they used that freeway to undermine that area. So they've done all types of little deceptive stuff. They're doing that to Crinshaw Boulevard in L.A. now. You know, that's a... What they changed the name, too, Kit? What's one? Crinchaw? It's still Crinshaw, from what I know. Which one they changed the name to?
Starting point is 00:38:04 A marina. I mean, Venice, they call it Silicon Beach. Yeah. Silicon, where? Venice Boulevard? Oh, speaking of which, did you hear about the shit? They had to pay the black family for taking all their land. Yeah, Bruce's Beach, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Yeah. How you think they came about it? Yeah, man, because people were stumping for it, man. There were some black folks who had some prime real estate out there in Manhattan Beach. And at the time, there was major segregation. And black people who were well-to-do would go out there and spend money. So the land became very prosperous. They built big businesses.
Starting point is 00:38:35 So they came in. The city said, hey, these niggas are having too much fun. We have to stop this. So they did eminent domain. They said, we're just going to take over the land and take control of it. They did the same thing with Central Park. Central Park used to be a black area called Ceneca Village. Inicica Village.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Imminent domain, it means to just take it. Yeah, just take it. They're going to say the city needs this. We're going to just take it from. What's the black lady named that they took the whole city of Los Angeles? That's Biddy Mason. Biddy Mason, yeah. We're doing a lot of stuff on her in our museum.
Starting point is 00:39:00 That was a black woman who was a slave, and the Mormons took her out to Los Angeles. People don't understand. California, they had slavery out there in California. They tried to make the shit seem like it's liberal. They had slavery out there. They just looked the other way. So she was enslaved out there. Some black boats put up on game and said, hey, if you come out here, this is technically a free state, you can get your freedom.
Starting point is 00:39:20 She ended up getting her freedom and then became the richest woman in California. She built all types of businesses. She owned many of the streets that's in downtown Los Angeles now So a lot of folks don't know about her I've been trying to get a street named after her Biddy Mason and people act like she don't even exist What is the, it was a young girl
Starting point is 00:39:37 That was a young black girl She was very young but she had a whole bunch of oil Sarah Rector That was in Oklahoma Yeah this again A lot of black people were moving to Oklahoma And they would just kind of throw them off On a lot somewhere and they threw this sister
Starting point is 00:39:51 And her family on a lot found out that this allotted land had oil under it. So now this little girl, like eight, nine years old overnight, became a millionaire. Multi-millionaire. So the city came in and said, hey, we need somebody to oversee her money. So then they started
Starting point is 00:40:07 the finesse game with that. So they always come up with little ways to undermine and finesse us. You was one of the first people I heard talk about the Man Act. Yeah, yeah. The Man Act, that's what they did on Arkelly. They put the Man Act on R. Kelly. The Man Act was something for Jack Johnson.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Jack Johnson was out here. He was a cold. That nigga was a motherfucker. What happened? Jack Johnson was walking around with white women. Two white women with his arm around him and you knew couldn't nobody put him in the mouth. He kicked him in the mouth and everything. Jack Johnson won the coldest niggas out of people.
Starting point is 00:40:38 He was beating the dog shit out of people. I'm talking about when niggas still held they got like this. He could have knocked these motherfuckers out in 10 seconds and he was just mauled his ass for the whole 12, 15 round. got a scratch on with ovenness. Jack Johnson, man, he would beat these white boxes. And what would happen, when he would beat these white boxes, the white people would go out in cities around the country and lynch black people as revenge.
Starting point is 00:41:06 They were so mad at Jack Johnson. They created the King Kong movie about Jack Johnson. A lot of folks don't know that. In 1933, that was about Jack Johnson. This ape going to get the white women, because he was out there with them white women. They really did. With a top hat on.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yeah. And a magic stick, man. So the images of Jack Johnson with these white women, they went in Chicago, they created something called the Man Act, which is the White Slave Trafficking Act, to stop him and other black men from getting these white women, because at the time, you had a lot of pimps around the country, and white women who were immigrants were coming in, choosing up on these black pimps, so they were losing their mind seeing this. So they said, look, all of that shit is illegal. If you have a white woman, if you cross state lines, you're going to jail. So that's it. If you're fucking with a white girl, you're trafficking. again. Yep. Yep. Even now. Even now. I even tell you about a hundred years, you got one white girls. She, they look at all, anytime a black man has sex with a white woman, they look at that as a form of rape. That's why with Bill Cosby. What about the good morning America shit? I know you saw that. Yeah, T.J. Holmes. And they said what shit go happen night and they
Starting point is 00:42:12 took that nigga off here, but he's running around here, him and that white woman, they were running around like ghost and Angela from power and shit. I'm like, you sit your ass down. You married, she married chill out man so fucking yeah yeah I didn't know I'm not my business I'm not who fucking I wasn't here I wasn't here I want to tell me the dudes I don't get a what going on they've been having great morning they've been laid up all night you did good good morning that's great now I want to get your opinion or something man because you know how you said I'm from D.C. and we've been the victim of gentrification which most black cities have.
Starting point is 00:42:53 But as you said in the history, most of the stuff that we build, they end up working, they end up tearing down and demolishing. So is there really a way for black people to, in your opinion, to actually come up and build another infrastructure for us in any city in America?
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah, you know, we gotta get on code with each other. See, other people are on code against us. See, when it comes to us, we get off cold, we get on this minority coalition. We think we gotta bring everybody into our mix, and we gotta share what little resources we have. And then other people, when they get their resources,
Starting point is 00:43:26 they do not share with us. So we have to have a certain survivalist selfishness that we share our resources and keep our resources in-house so that we can empower our group. It's very important to get on code to do that. And you were from D.C., we know D.C. was built and designed by a black man, Benjamin Bannica. Yeah, and the black people were free first in D.C.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yes, indeed. were freed, what, I don't know how many years it was, but black people were free in D.C. before all the slaves were free. That's why D.C. was originally a whole triangle. And when they freed the slaves early, Virginia took their piece of land back. That's why D.C. is shaped the way it is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you know they got the Washington Monument.
Starting point is 00:44:11 That's supposed to symbolize the arc of Egypt and Africa. That's how they were designing D.C. based on Masonic, rituals and they get a lot of the Masonic stuff from ancient comedic knowledge and Moorish science that the Moors brought into Europe from Africa so they design a lot of stuff based on old black knowledge that they hide into Masonic orders it's some real deep heavy shit right you know some real heavy shit's crazy yeah so when you be on these journeys looking for artifacts like we encourage you what leads you to that direction like okay like you said you were going to search for artifacts and Kennesaw?
Starting point is 00:44:48 What the hell led you to Kennesaw? Because you know, that's where a lot of the real shit is. You know what I'm saying? Right. Because the people in the dominant society, man, they keep a lot of these artifacts and monuments within their family, but they keep it secret. Because they don't want to be out as racist.
Starting point is 00:45:03 They know some of this shit is racist. A lot of times they won't sell it to us. Sometimes we try to get like some of our white friends to go in these stores and buy stuff. Because we go in there, they start hiding stuff. I went to another store in Marietta, and they had some, some racist memorabilia they had a couple of things and i tried to buy it and they were like
Starting point is 00:45:19 hey let me go check on something they wouldn't hit the shit and wouldn't even sell it to me yeah i know they're saying who's that caramel skin fella you got staying outside with you you ain't gonna give it to no black sorry look me in my eyes yeah so they kind of keep that stuff near and dear man we got to understand they're very serious about their artifacts they want their shit yes they do they stay in their family yes indeed Yes indeed. Yes indeed. What's a city with a lot of black history that's little known? Man, we're all over the place, man. There's so many cities out here that has our history. It's hard to even pinpoint, man, because I go to certain cities and I learn about the black history.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I remember I went to Buffalo, and I found out. Buffalo was sounded about. Buffalo this weekend. Buffalo was founded by Black dude. Black dude founded Buffalo. We know Chicago was founded by Black Guy. A lot of these cities were founded by black people because during Western expansion, white people couldn't really go into some of these hostile areas with some of these Native Americans. They would have gotten killed. Yeah, that's one of the brothers invented hockey up there way, right? Yeah, in Canada. Yeah, they was in Canada.
Starting point is 00:46:26 They were right there. Yeah, brothers invented hockey up there in Canada. Also, black men, the Buffalo soldiers, they became the first park rangers in the country. The people taking care of the parks and all of that. Yeah, they're the first park rangers were the buffalo soldiers. Our history is everywhere, dude. Everywhere. Br, I went on here one day, and I told them what the name the Cowboys came from,
Starting point is 00:46:50 and they thought I was lying until they went and looked shit up. Had the whole internet tripping. I know some shit, too. What Cowboy came from? Because they wouldn't call them men. Yeah, they call them boring. Also, Louisiana, man, speaking of sports, New Orleans Saints. You know their logo?
Starting point is 00:47:07 What's that, the Florida Lease? What do they call that? don't know the name. What's my Louisiana people? What's that called? Flood de Liszt, that's the name of it? That was the French, you know, they were the slave owners down there in Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:47:19 That was a French symbol that they would brand on black people who ran away. God dang. A lot of folks don't know that. Yeah, they would brand that shit on black people's faces. Man, hey, I'm not mine. That ain't that ain't our symbol, mine. Yeah. Yeah, they would brand them with that.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Like, yeah, our history is everywhere, man, all over. We were, we were speaking earlier when you got here about reparations, right? And I want to get your opinion on what you feel like the best distribution method of reparations should be. Because I personally feel- Call-Lis said we shouldn't get shit. Huh? I mean, like, Chico, Chico said we shouldn't get shit. I didn't say we shouldn't get shit.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I said we shouldn't get cash. But if we didn't get cash, we didn't get shit. No, I'm saying they- You see what he didn't do for $1, $1,500? I don't go crazy for $15.000. I'm sorry. Give-line, niggins, get money. But for real.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Give-mine. Gave a niggins some money. Hey, January 28th, at 7 o'clock this time, Jay and we're going to San Diego. We'll be at the Valboa Theater. The Rocky Balboa. That's what I'm calling me. Make sure you grab those tickets and come check it out. At the end of the day, man, the tour coming to your city.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Don't worry about nothing. All right, Chico Bean here, January 13th, 2023. This one excited, man. MGM, Detroit, what up, though? Detroit, I will be in a tale. You already know, nigg, we got dog shit on the floor. It's going down January 13th. MGM, Detroit.
Starting point is 00:48:41 It's going down. Make sure you get your tickets, man. Detroit, you know I love y'all, man. You know it's like a second home to me, so make sure you get your tickets, Detroit. Yeah, it's going down. Have you ever gave a nigger some money? Give it to us. Have you ever gave a nigger some money?
Starting point is 00:48:56 What the nigger do with the money? Yeah. Got you fuck on. Hey, you never see him. I ain't have to see that nigger get into that little paper ran out. Until he needed some more money. I know. No.
Starting point is 00:49:07 No. No. We should get cash. We should get cash. We've had this argument. We should get 20% cash. Yeah, black folks are just fucked up with money. Look, that's some rumors.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Some of the Native Americans, they get that money and they get drunk and people don't question the shit. Some of them drank their money off. Some of them put it in casinos. We're the only group that are told we gotta do something specific with our money. We gotta start a foundation. Fuck that. Give black folks. Long as we spend the money with other black folks, we're good.
Starting point is 00:49:34 But that's the problem. When has that ever been done? We need the money. This is my mind. my idea on it. Even if we fuck it up, so what? It's ours to fuck right. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Niggas gonna get that money and gonna be like, fuck your shoes, you know how you can solve this problem? Don't fuck yours up. Being the majority of people who didn't, it's gonna be some niggas like me that's fucking my whole goal is gonna be sick to see how fast I can spend this shit before they change the money. No.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I got to get everything I want before the end. inflation hit. That's going to hit the next day. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm going to be a day. Because as soon as they give niggins the money, the next day,
Starting point is 00:50:20 a gallon of milk is going to be $300,000. Well, we got to spend the money the same day. That's what I'm saying. We got to get our milk now. Don't listen to loose, man. Okay, so figure 10 year plan, motherfucker. Because you have, what you have. We're stopping heavy for reparation in California.
Starting point is 00:50:36 We've been on passport. I've been seen it too. I saw $233,000. Yeah. giving black people in California, $233,000. Okay, so. A house in California costs a million dollars for a house this size.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah, I know, a microwave. See, it ain't even enough to fuck up. That's my point. You have a significant amount of knowledge. Like, it's clear, as evident, we've been talking about it. Yeah. So if black people were giving money,
Starting point is 00:51:00 as you say, we should, what would be the plan that you would draw out if you could draw it out with all the things that you know in the history and the way that you've seen that things have gone, what would you say, should do with the money when we got you can do anything you want with it look
Starting point is 00:51:13 that's what i'm saying people five of them going to fuck the money off and the other five they're going to start businesses and they're going to do some perspective prosperous with that money i promise you that three i'm going to fuck it off yeah we're how do we keep the five they fuck it off right from coming to fuck us up because we didn't well how about that we didn't we ain't say fuck the money up if y'all going to fuck the money up just spend it on black people when you fuck the money up y'all go to white beings and fuck the money up you get them back rich you gave them back the money We can't get one reparations, though.
Starting point is 00:51:42 It's got to be two rounds. See, then you want more money. See, that's why you fucking it up because you want another round. He's got to fuck the money on so he can get another round. See, we need more rounds. What I'm saying is, if you never had the shit, because the first time you get the shit,
Starting point is 00:51:55 you're going to fuck it up. You ain't going to really understand what this money is until you get this. Like the first time you meet the plug, you ain't got time to fuck it up. You didn't act like you don't sow some dope before. If you ain't, nigga, you had a lot. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I got people that are going to buy. Niggins put up all this fight to get this little reparation money. It should be up to that black family what they do with theirs. But financial literacy is a must. Yeah, we can do that too. See, all this is just conversation. Financial literacy is a must. Economics has to be taught in the household.
Starting point is 00:52:28 You can't just fuck the money up. I don't give a fuck black brother. You can't just fuck that mud up. A nigger who broke the phone. I refuse to watch you. to watch you, give me the money. If you want to fuck it up, I invest your money. Now, do you see, if you got a check for $230,000,
Starting point is 00:52:45 right, what would you do with the money? I wouldn't tell nobody. There you do. See? Everybody got it. Everybody got it. Everybody ain't get qualified. Yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Some niggas wake up and go down there and sign their name up. It's three money. Ooh, some niggins don't even want to find out the dang nigs don't get it. When they get the check and they're going to be like, wait a minute. Uh-uh, come on, bring that little money back. You ain't a little, nigga? I'm gonna let you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:13 You're 60% European. If I was in the street, I'm just letting you know. This is me in 2000. Say, before they gave it to me in 2008. Yeah, yeah. I'm in 10th grade. Let's see. Legend with $230,000.
Starting point is 00:53:30 First of all, I'm dropping out of school. You're about this bitch. You're going to fuck it up all right. I'm going to get me a car. I'm going to get me a car. credit list. I was spent my Samaracts, give me a nice-hand crown Vic. You hear me? I'll pick it go to the dope man and say, listen, I know I would buy a three-pound.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I want five-pound, right? You're just going to trap it all. I'm trick, because this is what I know. But I invest it, this is what I know. I didn't go fuck it up. I just elevated my lifestyle. Terrible. I think that my personal opinion is, I think that the power is in the choice.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I think if they're going to give us reparations, I think that each black persons that have a choice in how they receive, their reparations. I think you should be able to say, nah, I would fuck that money, nigga. Give me Nebraska. I take give me three quarters of Nebraska. That's all I want.
Starting point is 00:54:20 You know what I'm taking? I want to be tax free. That's it. That's it. There you go. That's it. That ain't possible. Shit. That ain't possible. Yes, it is. No, it ain't. If you got it. Yes, it is. What's stopping you from just buying the land
Starting point is 00:54:35 with the $200K? You said what now? What would stop you from just buying the land with the $200k. Because I feel like if you have had $200k, then you will buy the land. But if I'm a nigger that ain't never had $2,000 and I wake up with $200k,
Starting point is 00:54:50 fuck some land. I'm going to get a chain, nigga. I'm going to get a chain, nigga, with my face on that wicked diamonds. And I'm going to be like this on Instagram on you bitch that you niggas ain't got this chain, nigga. $140,000.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Diamonds. Didn't I tell you, letting me spend their money. Now y'all talking about spending the money. No, I'm saying, if I'm talking about, figuratively, if I'm a, if I'm talking about, I became the blue. We took the, we had to create a blueprint. You the same way, it's black men, we don't have a blueprint usually that's laid down for us.
Starting point is 00:55:29 We have to create our own. So when you are a black man that's creating a blueprint and you actually, you know, acquire shit and go through money and figure out money, then you have to. you realize, okay, $233,000 is a lot of money, but it's not. It's not. If you're trying to do some life-changing shit, is not. But we have to stop. But we have to stop using the common dusty denominator when it comes to shit like that.
Starting point is 00:55:53 We just find out what the dusty niggas are going to do and be like, damn, we should do it because they don't fuck the money. Let them fuck it up. They don't fuck it up. But you know, they use the desti-knigas at the narrative. I know this. Listen, niggas is the spokesman for all your needs. knows. I look at the progressive black folks and I wonder what they're going to do with it because that's going to have more of an impact. I already know the dusty niggins are going to
Starting point is 00:56:13 fuck it off. Perfect way in this. Dionne. Dion Sanders is a progressive need. Yes, he did. You see what he did. And you see how niggins is talk about him. Come on man. Now, I agree with Dion bouncing. I'm on that side of the fence. Oh, wow. Wow. Because see, at first, look, I was like, look, you want to stay with the HBCU, keep making that hot, keep building that up, keep giving shine to the HBCUs, but the thing is, man, they didn't pay my brother the way they needed to pay it. We have to pay our folks, man.
Starting point is 00:56:42 When you come in there, it's owned by white people. They're named after white people. Yeah, yeah. They were just one of the schools. Spellman. They're just named after Lars Spellman. That's Rockabella's wife.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Come on, man. This nigga just come and fuck all your black history program. No, I know. No, they're just the criteria that they told y'all that this is the history. That's white people history. Let me get some hands sanitize.
Starting point is 00:57:05 But with Dionne, man, they weren't paying that brother. He was using his own salary to donate to some of the school programs. He was bringing in his own sponsors. The HBCUs, they should have been working their pieces, bringing in more money for that brother. Any problem two championships. They should have been, yeah. Any problem two championships. The school could have been out here.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Politicking, endorsements, merchandising deals. And on top of that, Dion was getting robbed at the school. People were stealing shit from them. Y'all know that? Yeah, somebody stole his chain in the locker room. And I'm trying to. niggas some money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:37 That niggas stole Dionne. You want niggins to get $233,000. At the game. At the game, bro. And then like, I think people don't rewind the tape. When he first took the job, people was mad at him for taking it. Yeah. But I remember people talking shit about him for taking the job.
Starting point is 00:57:56 And then when he lead a job, it's like, you ain't shit. It's like, I went to an A.P.C. They thought he was going to go there and spend all his own money. Right. Right. of an HBCU and in my opinion the biggest asset of being in the HBCU is pride it's the pride that we have in the school if you go to any HBCU all that shit is the same everywhere go as any a is the freshman dorms fucked up whoa is the financial aid department
Starting point is 00:58:24 fucked up whoa you eat chicken on Wednesdays in the cab whoa so it's the same everywhere it's just the pride that we have in the schools that make it special of us yeah So when somebody comes in and like Dionne did and changes the culture to where when somebody comes to this HBCU and see these facilities, he can't pack them up and take them to Colorado with them. Like them is still there. So if I wouldn't give a fuck, how long Emmett Smith decided to coach at Winston-Salem State, and get the fuck on, but need that goddamn gym because I'm going to work out.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Like I think we got to have that perspective because we'd be mad and I think that- But this is the thing too, he can't change it by itself. Right. You need to be three more motherfuckers. Fucked I can do it. Somebody else. It's somebody else turn. This man 50-something years old.
Starting point is 00:59:13 He's not trying to spend the rest of his life building some shit. And he is the coach. And he made all this progress with no resources. Think of what he going to do when he got some resources. Think of how many niggins going to get to go to Colorado that never been to Colorado before. Come on, Joe. And play football and get a respected degree. A respected degree.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Oh, you just well in Colorado. Oh, shit. They're about to see some shit that they ain't never seen before. It's about to be some niggins give some jobs. Right. It's about to be some new, gentlemen, with all the time of shit. They got to change all this shit.
Starting point is 00:59:45 This is why you can't get $23. The white people watch what he did. Now, that's what I'm saying. The white people don't watch what he did in Jackson State. Shit, come change some of this shit. We're tired of eating that dry-ass chicken too. Say something about, hey man, we got some shit. We got resources.
Starting point is 01:00:04 If you did that with nothing. Man, we got every fucking thing. Do what you do. Yes, he did. And then you also, all the people that's complaining, what have you done for this? Nothing. They ain't been to no game.
Starting point is 01:00:14 They ain't even know they had a band. What did you do? What if you done at your alma mater? I know. Now the responsibility fall back on the same people who criticize them. These are the same people, now we got to, as a community, we all got to go to these games
Starting point is 01:00:30 and support all of these programs. It can't just be Jackson State. Right. It's got to be everybody, us as consumers, we have to spend our money with these programs. We're not unified. We have to do that. We have to do that.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Now we, that's the part that's gonna be left out. That's the real uproar because now motherfuckin' know, oh, now we gotta do something. But you know what, we hate to see a nigger be successful and then we'd be like, well shit, nigger, we don't want who made you successful, nigger. You need to get some of that back. So, that's what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:04 But I thought the whole goal was progress. I thought the whole goal was progress. You did eight shows, you need to do two or three. You're like that. I know. They don't say the whole time. People don't listen. What?
Starting point is 01:01:17 They don't just stop in Colorado. That's like you're doing a free show. Do a free show, Drayton. Now the next offer they got to give them a Nick Saban deal. Now the next offer is 20 a year. It's 30. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:30 So when that O-T went crazy down now. That's what I'm saying. So when they come with the Arizona deal, you know, supposed to take that? Right. Or the Brigham Young or the whoever the fuck the school is. 100 million. The University of North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:01:42 When the Florida State finally say, okay, now we're ready for you to come home. We know you want to go to floor. Come on. Now they need to come with the 40 piece. And, I mean, you're acting like this ain't one of the greatest athletes of ever. This nigga has already done. The greatest, some of the greatest shit ever you made because a nigga left the HBCU.
Starting point is 01:02:03 But that what I'm saying? He is the culture. He came down there shed light on something that ain't never had light shed on it before. Made a statement. Then he said, you know what? It's time they're going to make a statement somewhere else, dude. Y'all say, hold up, you ain't done. Y'all don't know his mission?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah. You can't tell another nigga what's his mission? And it was always bigger than that. I thought that's the whole shit. It's the progress. Come on. The main thing people were saying, what he said he was going to speak, and he was talking to all this black culture and black boys and all that.
Starting point is 01:02:33 It's like. And y'all show them. what the real black culture is like. Criticize, criticize, motherfucking criticism. All the good he brought. And underpaid him and underpain them. All the good he's supposed to get.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And that's another question I have for you because like the woke community, like this is something I don't understand about the woke community. They're supposed to be, they're supposed to be the upper echelon of, you know, scholarly black men that is, you know, I know all of this information,
Starting point is 01:03:02 but then these niggins be on live arguing like rappers. Yeah, yeah. So, like, what the, if this is the best of us, and then you look on there and you see niggas making wrestling videos, I'm the greatest of all time. Ain't nobody read more books than me, nigga. I know more than every nigga. Like, what are you supposed to?
Starting point is 01:03:22 You niggas don't know who invented fresh toast? I'll tell you one thing, they weren't fucking French. I'm like, bro, what are you supposed to? See, all of us are supposed to be technically, woke, you did? The people that are designated the woke people who are really a lot of the vocal niggas on YouTube. A lot of these are like ex-convig niggas who would argue to waste time in jail. Right. So they come out of jail and have the same damn shit. That's what they're doing jail. He's being in jail, man. We call that prison babble. That's all that shit is. And the
Starting point is 01:03:59 niggas ain't as deep as you think they are, man. They make every little thing. Listen, bad bull, brother, first of all, red, okay, that's the red blood of the black man, the bull, the black bull, that comes from the, um, Afrocentric brothers and sisters who fought in slavery. You put the red bull together. What you got? Crackers. Now, see, I don't need to interrupt you, my brother, but if you look at the red bull, it's deeper than that. See, the red represents the skin of the Indian people, and the bull is the shit of the white man. See, what did the red bull? man eat that's a buffalo but see what you're forgetting my brother hang me the can hang me the can see you said red bull what does red bull give you wings so what do they give the black man chicken wings oh see that is all we are given we are given the the the the ranness and the the the the you don't see it because you're not looking I'm looking because when I look at the bull I see red and I see the bull but there are two bulls they're fighting head to head that
Starting point is 01:05:03 That means we're going to war forever. That's what you're my brother. Now see, Red Bull is a German company. But we in America drinking German energy. Now the same people that own Volkswagen, hear me out, are the same people that put that shit in them Skittles. Wee-Kittles, my brother.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Did you go to the Skittles debate? Right to the Skittles. Did you know that all Skittles are really the same flavor, they just color them differently. Okay, now let's go even deeper than that. Everybody knows who knows anything that Chef Boyard D was a black man. Chef Boyard D.
Starting point is 01:05:44 was the great-grandfather of Run DMC. That's what you didn't know. Now, see, you start taking it back. Now, see, you don't even, you didn't even realize that they have completely taken Uncle Ben out of the grocery stores. And my Aunt Jimenez. Now, see, what they're trying to do is Blake Brickman. Because the black family, they take it our auntie, they've taken our uncle, what's next?
Starting point is 01:06:09 Oxtails are already expensive as fuck. Meanwhile, the Quaker Oaksman has been allowed to be a white face on oatmeal for over hundreds of years. And an important price point. Cook it Chris. What about the Chris, my brother? Speak on it, my brother. Nobody's going to talk about how couch. Chocolate was a convicted family.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Tricks off a kids. He's a pedophile. How did you know that, my brother? Tricks are for kids. Adults eat, but he want kids. See, if you eat apple jacks, you would know that that's a racist term, and they are laughing at the violence in the black community.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Now, see, in the early 90s, carjackers were prevalent. Now who makes your iPhone? Corn apple. What is they doing? Shacky. Corn was created by a black man. It was cultivated by a black man named Pops. So corn pops is a play on the corn that Pops cultivated
Starting point is 01:07:15 that we all eat today. Kelloggles was racist. Show live. They box was white for 75 years. Hidden colors is not actually about color at all. It's not. What it's about? It's about being hidden in a crayon box,
Starting point is 01:07:29 like the black crayon is always hidden. It's not available for you to find when you open the box, you have to move other white and red and blue and orange crayons around to find the black one. That's what hidden colors is about. This brother doesn't know anything. Not here to argue. I'm not here to argue with you, but I'm not here to argue.
Starting point is 01:07:53 That's all the shit is, man. That's all the shit is, man. I just want to argue in jail for the sake of arguing, dude, to waste the time, to spend the time, man. So do you, are you able to, are you able to decipher that because you've been doing it for so long? Are you able to look and say, I know, snap? Yeah, of course. Have you ever been fooled?
Starting point is 01:08:13 Kind of sort of. Sometimes, I interview people for some of the films, and then I found out that they were prison, Babelism. They ended up on the editing room floor, you know, the shit didn't even get in the film. Okay. You know, so, well, we've had a couple of false flags, but for the most part, man, I kind of study people and see if they know what they're talking about, they can tell what they need to say without the babbling.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Because a lot of times the motherfuckers just babbling on and on and on, that's a filler for them not knowing the fuck they're talking about. People who know real knowledge, they get right to the point. You know? For my heart podcasts and Rococo Punch,
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Starting point is 01:13:38 to get in good with white society, you know, a lot of them who are trying to not rock the boat because I've had a couple of black folks till when we first started doing Hidden Colors, they were like, this is going to be so offensive to white people. Why are you just being so mean to the white people? Why? And it's that type of mentality. And so we're like, you know, we're just telling the truth. We're telling the truth.
Starting point is 01:14:01 The truth. You do catch a lot of backlash and shit like that. They try to paint you as this radical extreme. Oh, yeah. The truth hurts. Yeah, that's going to happen. You know, that happens with any black person who's speaking prominently about issues because a lot of men, we got to understand this.
Starting point is 01:14:15 There's a lot of black folks who didn't want to get off the plantation and don't want to get off the plantation now. Even during slavery, man, you had a couple of types of black folks, the ones who would get the hell on up out of there, and the ones who were perfectly fine what was happening on those plantations, because that's all they knew, you understand? So when we start telling black people,
Starting point is 01:14:33 we need to start working and building our own, that's a lot of hard work. It's easier just to sit up here and hey, I go work for this white man, I got it made. I ain't gotta come up with all of the bills and the zoning. I go in and put it in my eight hours every day, get my drink on on the weekend. What the fuck I wanna rock that boat for?
Starting point is 01:14:51 To be an entrepreneur, Like you guys got this shit popping here. This is popping. This takes, motherfuckers getting up, putting in some work. My man Chico was helping them put some of the shit together. You understand? That's real work. When you have your own shit, you have to get up
Starting point is 01:15:07 and do that every day. You don't get just eight hours. We're here in the middle of the fucking night. Y'all got me out here like a damn vampire. I don't know what I was right now. Vampire. If you want to speak on the vampire, let's talk about Dracula being a black man.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Speak on it, brother. Cook it, Chris, ain't nothing but niggas drowning in milk. Now see, vampires originated in Africa. That's what I wanted to say. From the vampirian tribe.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Now, all of these brothers were over six feet tall and had hands as big as baby gorillas. There are no known photographs. Of baby gorillas? I don't see some baby pictures.
Starting point is 01:15:54 I don't see some baby. Now, something that's always been hilarious to me that you do, the Coon train. Look at the Coons. Yeah, yeah. For a broken tale, like, then he come to Coons. What gives you the feelingsness to go with a lot of the black power structure and reality, man? Yeah, because you know what, the black, a lot of those guys would actually go in on me.
Starting point is 01:16:17 When I started doing the Hidden Color series, man, the white power. the white power structure would send their Negro minions after me to kind of try to discredit. You understand? And that's what they usually do. A lot of these Negroes you see on these news shows on television, these are Negroes that's been vetted, and their job is to kind of be a buffer between the grassroots and the white power structure. So they're always wagging their finger to us, kind of telling the black masses what to do and not to do. So we said, hey, you guys are not giving us any advice that's going to be pertinent to us.
Starting point is 01:16:46 So we started calling them out and putting them on the Coon Train. We actually had a Coon Train Award in LA a few years ago. We're giving out trophies to me. For real? Yeah. Did anybody come to accept it? Let me ask you. All those people who got their award, I gave Jesse Lee Peterson his award personally.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Ah, amazing. I don't like it. Thank you. Jesse is a for real cool. That boy. Jesse's been to my house before. For real? Yeah, because I filmed him for one of my movies.
Starting point is 01:17:12 And this is off camera. And Jess is like, Tyree, you got a real nice house. I said, well, thank you, Jesse. black folks work harder and not be so lazy they can have nice stuff like you i was like damn this niggins a real coon yeah damn what we even filming this niggins he was just coming and just cune's not just saying cune shit off the cup yeah i'm like all right jesse so yeah he's a people think that that's an act no that thing is really coonish like that he for a let me ask you your opinion who are some of the black people that you think can make some
Starting point is 01:17:42 shit happen man you know who the everyday average black person is going to make stuff happen see we We don't have to depend on certain prominent black people. It's going to always start from the grassroots, man, always from the grassroots. Because a lot of people that's a little too prominent, a lot of them have been compromised. So you have certain people within the community who are activists, who can kind of coach people and give them the game. But it's always going to start with the person on the grassroots. Even Tupac said that.
Starting point is 01:18:09 He said, look, either I'm going to change the world or I'm going to spark the brain of somebody who's going to change the world. And we got a deep history, man. And again, we talk about our history all over the world, all over this country. Everywhere we go, man, our imprint is there. We're here in Georgia. There's so much stuff in Georgia. You asked me earlier what shocked me.
Starting point is 01:18:31 One thing that did shock me is that a lot of black towns that we did have control over, they were flooded deliberately by the white supremacists. Lake Lanier. Lake Lanier. It used to be Oscarville. There used to be a town called Oscarville, black people. They killed many of the black people, ran them out, and then flooded that area. and we have to understand water has spirits all right the molecular structure of water has spirit it can carry spirits that's why when you give libations to somebody when they die you pour our liquor you pour out liquid you pour libations water carry spirits you have Lake Lanier on top of those dead black bodies Lake Lanier has had some of the most freakish accidents over the years that's damn near unexplained people disappear
Starting point is 01:19:17 People said when you go into Lake Lanier, sometimes it feels like somebody's pulling you down. Several people have said this about Lake Lanier. There's been people driving by Lake Lanier and something pushes their car in the damn water several times. There's all types of vehicles under Lake Lanier. That's the ancestral energy and the spirits, man. And we're close to the Gullah, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:39 Georgia's right next to South Carolina. So that Gullah Gigi thing. You ever heard of the Mississippi Beach Bowl? That sounds familiar. Are you talking about the Devil's Punch Bowl? That's what you're talking about, where they killed a lot of black people in Mississippi. After the Civil Wars, the Union soldiers did that.
Starting point is 01:19:53 They got a lot of black people, put them in a not just Mississippi. I think that's the name of the place. Natchez, Mississippi, yeah. They put them over there, starved them out, and basically created a genocide over there that's never talked about it. And it was the Union soldiers who did that. Yeah, I just saw the clip where it said some African soldiers,
Starting point is 01:20:11 like 78 African soldiers were shot when they asked for their, their wage in the Civil War One of the wars or something like that They were all killed Just for asking for their pay Yeah, a few There was a lot of different massacres
Starting point is 01:20:25 That occurred with black people And the Civil War would not have been won If it weren't for black people Fighting in the Civil War But a lot of people don't know that The North was losing the Civil War Because all of the military schools In the South, all right?
Starting point is 01:20:37 The South was beating the shit out of the North. They started recruiting black people out of the swamps and black people on the plantations To fight for the Union That's when they started winning Even Abraham Lincoln said, if you weren't for these Negroes, we would have lost this shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Motion is out for... If it wasn't for my niggins. On the telegram talking big shit, don't make me sending these niggins down there. I might as well go and give up, Custer. Go and give up, custard. Is there anything that you haven't done that you want to do? Man, I'm doing it now, man, with the museum thing. That was something that I've been wanting to do for a long time,
Starting point is 01:21:17 so I'm getting that popping now. So I'm in a good zone, man. I'm doing all the shit that I want to do, man. And that's what, anything we want to do, we can just get up and do it. Nothing is stopping us. No, stopping us from doing shit. If I want to, shit, run for office,
Starting point is 01:21:30 I would go out there and do it and probably went. Now, they'd shoot my ass the next day, but I would go out there and do it if I really wanted to, yeah. So we're gonna let him get you like this. If Herschel is winning, Herschel is actually winning right now. And this nigger can't even talk.
Starting point is 01:21:45 This dude, if he's got to popping, anybody. This is going to come out after the election. If that nigger went, man, you niggins. It ain't going to be on us. You know, it ain't, it'll be on them. It means they want it to say. It ain't enough of us to make a vote difference. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Well, I don't know. Maybe we need to find out on this one. If there's anyone to find out, it's this one. If there's anyone to find out, it's this one. Anybody to find out if black people can make a difference, it's Herschel, nigger. The shit that scares me the most is, I know that even as terrible as Herschel is, he ain't even the worst motherfucker that they're trying to sneak off in there. They want you to see Herschel.
Starting point is 01:22:28 They show you every goddamn stupid shit, Herschel say. But it's a white person that they're trying to sneak in that's dumber than Hersch. Tell them all the shit. Hey, you say that. Herschel say that shit. Go, God. Some of the funniest is really shit up. he said digger Hershey Walker play football
Starting point is 01:22:44 when the helmets were sold Oh yeah, that nigga brain smooth as the motherfucker Boy playing head-hitty. That nigga got a smooth-ass brain, bro. It should look like a liver up there. Hey, man. That's crazy. Man, it's a legend.
Starting point is 01:23:01 It's an honor, man. It's real to hate you. Yeah, I hope this ain't the last time you stop doing that, man. Anytime, man. Do you got it? All right now, right now in Haiti in Dominican Republic,
Starting point is 01:23:11 there's a lot of discrepancies, Haitians are getting deported. Yeah. Women can't even give birth inside of Dominican hospitals. They're literally giving birth outside of Dominican hospitals because they are mistreated Haitians and stuff like that. What do you think the cause is for Dominicans not wanting to, you know, they're black too, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Why do you think that they act the way they do? Yeah, they've been like that ever since Gessaline and those guys took over the whole island. remember it was the Dominicans who wanted to get the Haitians off their back. They wanted independence from the Haitians after the Haitians got the Spanish off their backs because many of the Dominicans and many people in Latin America, they identify with the Spanish as their brethren. You understand? So if you go to any South American or Latin American country,
Starting point is 01:24:00 they identify as white and they'd be black as us, especially in Puerto Rico. And they had something in the 1930s and 40s where Trujillo, over there in the Dominican Republic, they had the Haitian massacre where they were slaughtering Haitians in the Dominican Republic. So they were looking at dark Dominicans and they were having them say the word partially. They called it the Parsley massacre. So if they said the word partially with an accent, they said, oh, this nigga's Haitian, let's kill them. So that scared a lot of people, and they got people on some shit where I'm no black, I'm Spanish, I'm Spanish. So that's why that hatred is there. It's a real
Starting point is 01:24:36 heavy thing. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I hate fucking the mood. No, why is it like nation? It's so deep that I know some of this shit is real deep. It's just that they don't want to be no part of the Haitian because they don't want to be black. They don't want to identify as black.
Starting point is 01:24:52 They don't want to identify as black. And, you know, that's interesting, man. A lot of dark skin people of color, we don't understand that they, a lot of times don't identify as black. There's a lot of people from East Africa who come here, jet black, they are technically. classified as Caucasian. They play a lot of these racial games, man. So we are looking at somebody who we think is black. I'm telling you, because of the, they say that technically a Caucasian
Starting point is 01:25:17 person is somebody who's from the Middle East, Europe, and North Africa. Technically, legally, that's what a Caucasian is. Legally. Yeah. So certain people from the Horn of Africa, North Africa, all of the Moroccans, Libyans, all of these people, they are all classified as white. South America, many of them, in Central America and the Caribbean, many of them are classified as white. We don't even know that, but they look like us, and they become people of color when they want to kind of get some benefits, but they identify as white. Legally.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Legally. Yeah. What the fuck. That's that ass praise. I wish a nigga Wood's on a cockade. Man, you black and ain't a motherfucker. There's a reason why Sammy Sosa is running around here looking like Ricky Ricardo now. He's not the only one.
Starting point is 01:26:02 That boy, like, son, we ain't turkey meat. Man, that's crazy, man. That's crazy, man. I can't believe that thing did that shit, man. Yeah. I wanted to how he did it, though. He just jumped in the pool of bleach? No, that shit looks like it hurts.
Starting point is 01:26:35 You close your eyes. Is it close your eyes tight? It's real tight. Nah, so he had to do some belt. That thing. He had to get like in a reverse air fry, something like that. You shit? There's no way, bro.
Starting point is 01:26:53 That thing is there, man. They do that. Handle wax, white. They be pushing on their skin, bro. Sammy Sosa used to be goddamn dark skin with a jerk curl. Yeah, man. Pretty Rico suave, man. You go out there and be like,
Starting point is 01:27:08 but that butter like, sir, where he took the meat, but what the fucking name, man? I don't know. He can look like us. Yeah, yeah. He would out of that look like jail in. But a lot of them motherfuckers just started bleaching their skin and shit over there. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:25 That's heavy over there. That's crazy. Yeah, what's my man named in Jamaican? I'm honest at that. Vibes Cartel. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Vibes Cartel did that.
Starting point is 01:27:35 That's OG out there too. Yeah. And that name music is incredible. They did that. They were a boss. Hell yeah. Classic Jamaican shit. Damn.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Man, listen, is there, is there, is there, are you gonna do any more of the Hidden Color series? Is there enough information? I probably won't do no more hidden colors because I've done five of them, so I'm doing a lot of spin-off series. The next movie I got coming out this February is called American Maroon, and that's talking about, yes. Let them know the website where they can get everything.
Starting point is 01:28:06 You can go to hidden colorsfilm.com, American maroonmovie.com, bumpbreaking, film.com. That's my last film. Go to follow me on Twitter. Tarik Nashi, follow me on Instagram, Tarik Elite. Now, the maroon, what is that, the context of that? A maroon, that was people who lived in swamps.
Starting point is 01:28:27 They lived in the swamps. They ran away from plantations, and they fought the slave owners and they would kind of carve out their own lives in the swamps. They were living in Florida. They were living in Louisiana. A lot of those bayou homes,
Starting point is 01:28:38 those were old maroon swamps that black people would live in. It came from the Caribbean too. Yeah, yeah. They had the Jamaican still got maroon colonies up there. And I've been up in those mountains, real shit. They had nanny of the maroons in Jamaica, real shit. And people just don't talk about that.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Those were the ones who won. That's a lot of Spain. That's another question. That's how they got the independence. Yes, they did. What's some shit that you saw with your own eyes that you didn't believe was real till you saw it? Oh man, black Asians, dude, I've been over to Asia, like Malaysia, in the jungles. If you go in the jungles of Asia, I'm talking about Far Asia, over there by Japan and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:29:17 There's tribes that look like everybody in this room, you know, big ass afros, big noses and big lips, just sitting in the damn jungle. Dude, just chilling. I'm like, damn. you know for real yeah the jet black tribes were afros
Starting point is 01:29:31 dude afros sitting up there in Asia chilling eating fucking fish damages and shit chilling living by the river the nigger shit
Starting point is 01:29:42 smoking and eating fish yeah I'm like wow dude you know so that kind of shocked me seeing that in the flesh so you know our presence is all over the world
Starting point is 01:29:52 man that's crazy that you black Asian What? Projects. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Dang it. He said what? Hey, ma'am. Peaceful niggas you will ever meet. Yes indeed. Yes indeed. Man, we appreciate you for stopping by,
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Starting point is 01:30:21 It was like this. And it was just in the phone. I was like that nigga prop. You're the first buzz. Yeah. You're nauseable gas in the new studio. And I love it. This is a beautiful facility, man.
Starting point is 01:30:33 I'm proud of you, brothers, man. So proud of y'all, bro. Thank you. Thank you. Well, there you have it, folks. 85 South Show. Serrigna, we out here. You did.
Starting point is 01:30:43 You did. We appreciate it, OG. Man, man. I gotta get that book. What's the name of that book again? Which one? Foundation of where? Aldermackin?
Starting point is 01:30:54 I got to see you all my books. Yeah, please, because I still got my automatic and that's still at my mama house right now. Yeah, hope. Three, two, two, one. One, three, two, one. Cool, cool, cool, cool, my man, my man, I appreciate it, bro. No.
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