The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - TEEDRA MOSES in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

Singer and songwriter TEEDRA MOSES is in the Trap!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:03:08 That shit going up this week. It's cool. You know, it's very interesting how people love to hear me seeing this one song over and over and over again. Yes. Do you know that song is a fucking staple on TikTok? They had a whole challenge to the song. Whole challenge to the song. They showed me.
Starting point is 00:03:24 It's still very active, too. Like, it's pretty nifty. Yeah. This one lady said, you don't get tired of seeing the same song? I want to listen to you. You can get tired of the same joke, like the same song.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah, I don't know. Never tried the other way, but the song I don't get tired of. Let me tell you something. A song that I like, I'd be glad when I'm right by myself. Me too, because I let that motherfucker get probably 27 seconds in and I'm going to start it on.
Starting point is 00:03:53 See, that's why he's. had to be here though. This my, you know, you got the one, this is my R&B friend. Oh, I love that. Oh, yeah, I love. That's awesome. Yeah. And he told me, don't do no more R&B interviews without him. Aw. He pulled up. He pulled straight up. I love that. Thank you. Wow, thank you. Now, this shit right here. Over and over. I've sang the song a million in one times. It don't get old. It's music. Do you know what I'm saying? It makes you feel good. It makes me feel good.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That's it. Makes me feel good. You're locking in all your male friends right here. Okay. They make you want to put on a comfortable outfit. A comfortable outfit. I can see her want me to put on her good jeans and a wife beat her. No, bra.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I can see the vision. Not, not even rap. I see some natural curls. Yeah, letting them bounce. And don't even grab up her. grab her purse, she just put her ID in a couple of dollars in the pocket and get the fuck on. That's a funny, flirty vibe right now.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I see that. I'll see that. She leave a car keys and everything. Fuck it, I'm going to walk. If I get too far out, Uber. No, she got to be in the car. This is a car ride. This is a car ride?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Okay. All right. Let me see what kind of car I still in. It's not a drop top. It's got some roof. One of the bigger ones. Yeah. Lots of things coming in.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Okay. Well, she got to be in a road. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, something's tall. She ain't that rain. Facial. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:27 She isn't that ring. Oh, that GLE. Not my GLE. She can't ride to GLE. We can't get it depends on who she is. Mm. Because I promise you it's over if she hit them, hit that curbs. I don't drive a dick's cause.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Because I'll be hitting curbs. No. Them curd rashes on the rim will break a relationship. Sit over there and be pretty. Don't worry. Right. Get me my own car to fuck up. You know what I'm saying? Tiger. You look like you ain't gonna fuck up no car now.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I'm not gonna fuck it up, but I do be kissing the curves. I'll be high. I'd be kissing the curve. So it's like, oops, and just keep going. Bloop. I always ride, like, chunky car, like, chunkier. S.P. What you like to ride? Like to and have is two different things. I would like, I don't want to drive. I want to, I want to, um, drive it with a rosewoods. That's what I want. I think that's a very comfortable way to, like,
Starting point is 00:06:26 go to the grocery store, hop out, get your stuff, whatever. You don't have to, you just, always in a comfortable state. I make a deal with you. What's the deal? You buy it, now I drive. You can't meet that. It's possible. Give me a little time.
Starting point is 00:06:40 It's possible. It's possible. Some rose wars have mink on the floor. I wouldn't even know how to, I would, I'd be like, I'd ride like this in the ballpark. I wouldn't. No, but they're really pretty. They are.
Starting point is 00:06:51 But still, meek on the floor. the floor. That's the thing about the thing. It's so plushes. The first time I got this shit and baby this shit. You're going to treat it just like this. It's just a car. But it is pretty.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Meek on the floor, though. And it's so plushy under your feet. Very plushy under your feet. I mean, I got to wear my shoes to the car and take them off in the car. And then put them on I get out. No, she didn't. But socks hit my floor. Now, see, shit got to be you.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's the thing. Like, I'm not going to be. I'm not treated like I can afford to happen even if I can't. You know what I'm not doing. When I'm not going to get my car wash, I got to be like, uh, Frank Luca. You block that shit. Yes, it's a blotter. You block that shit.
Starting point is 00:07:31 That's alpaca. You block that shit. That's a blotter. Wipe no goddamn meat, Lord. What's your favorite car? I know you like old school. Oh, shit. That's what I want to.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I never do with your favorite car. That was a great question. It's hard to have a favorite when you got all of them. No, I'm just because they all, like, different. I love cars just as much as you do, but I have a favorite. What's the one? What's the ultimate? Everybody got an ultimate, everything, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:57 But see, the thing about it is I don't want to get it. You just want to want it. Yeah. And what is that? But what is that, though? It'll be a Lamborghini. You can't get that. You can't just want that.
Starting point is 00:08:09 No, I can't. Because they've grown. I went to this shit called the Ultimate Driving Experience and they got all the shit, like the high-end shit. Why are you on? The demons and the Dodge demons. They had Ferraris and Porsches and all kind of shit, challenges, charges. So I drove the Ferrari and the Lamborghini right because they're my two favorites.
Starting point is 00:08:35 See, the Lamborghini make you feel like you can't deny that Ferrari. A nice polo shirt and some good caggy shorts and like you just... That Ferrar or Lennox, no, it just make you feel real preppy in there. You get what I'm saying? Absolutely. Fall weather You know what I'm saying That's got in the quarter tips
Starting point is 00:08:53 Absolutely Boat shoes All that I love it What did that? Loafers even This is where you pull up To some nice shit at
Starting point is 00:09:02 But when you're in that Lamborghini That's the Ferrari you say Yeah the Ferrari It makes you feel like A real Creppy Rich Okay
Starting point is 00:09:09 Son of a bitch Like a real snobby asshole It makes you want to say Get a job, nigger And trap off You get what I'm saying It says that vibe
Starting point is 00:09:18 But when you're in that motherfucking Lamborghini you feel like Batman I'm telling you you in that bitch and it feel like the city needs you my nigga it's just it's a different feel because like in the Lamborghini I'm talking with the Ferrari but that Lamborghini I want the Lamborghini when you get in that bitch it give you like like a half a second to just brace yourself just to be like nigger this is a Lamborghini it don't just go straight into Lamborghini it gives you like You fucked up mode And then you straight in that bitch
Starting point is 00:09:52 You get what I'm saying But Carrari is kind of like It's smoother Are them the cars that made you Be like yeah I want to get me some money No I'm gonna tell you what made This is when I was a kid, bro Yeah that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:10:07 That's supposed to be your favorite car The intro of Miami Vice Miami Vice Yeah But see in the 80s Every TV show had a signature car Yeah like night rider
Starting point is 00:10:20 you get what I'm saying Night rider and then the 18 B.A. Baroccas had the van Black band with the red striker Now that niggas never really wanted a van but if you were to have a van you would want people to be like
Starting point is 00:10:33 oh shit them niggins in that van pulling up Exactly That S600 was the one that made me want to get some money That is Claire because I'm like You know the S420 and all that back then But the S600 was the one that I saw And I was like
Starting point is 00:10:47 Why that got V-20? right there on the back. And my dad was like, a boy got a bigger engine in it. Oh, well. That made back in that VE, that S-600. The first time I even seen S-600,
Starting point is 00:10:59 it was in Ice-T video. Oh, so you didn't see it in person first. Sir Mixer-a-Lite was the nigga who introduced me as a young nigga to what the Bands was because he had my hoop did, right? You know, the video started off here in a clean-ass. Right. I'm just like, yeah, so I'm like, okay. And then Icedee, when this thing came out, it looked like he was already super rich
Starting point is 00:11:24 because he was having shit that was about it had. Yeah, the BMWs and the Benz. He had the AMG hammer. This is the first motherfucker in America who had an AMG hammer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:35 You see you love shit for personal reasons, too. Like I always love a Box Chevy. I grew up in a Box Chevy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I always fuck with, like, Mustang. They were $18, $1,500, $1,000. You remember you could get a box shepherds?
Starting point is 00:11:52 One of the cleanest box shivers I ever bought cost me $1,200. And that bitch was probably, he probably didn't have $100,000 on it either. $100,000. This brother my fucking probably didn't have $30,000. That's what I'm saying. And I bought that bitch in like, 02.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Now you're paying, you'll pay $25 minimum. No, I probably, that car now, it probably be a good, probably $11,000. Shit, I'll be saying the motherfuckersers. Okay, so those people who be, on them auctions and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Where they be getting them called from they sell that much for? And I want me a two-door Tahoe so bad but I'd be seeing them bitch to go for 25,000. You can get one. You're just going to have to fix it. I want to see how Carvette. You want who?
Starting point is 00:12:33 Is that the one that Cleopatra John were driving in that movie? I don't know. That's the C-3 body. What, Cleopatra had? The one she's talking about. Well, you know the one of Cleopatra. Cutout thing.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah, T-Tops. And it's like real curvy. Yeah. Yeah, I got two of them. See how you said. They got two of them. Every one shit, you got three. Just give you one?
Starting point is 00:12:51 I got one that you look so good standing next to it. He's just standing next to it. No, no, no. It's cocaine white with the pearl on it. Yeah. I mean, I think it's good to be generous. That's very generous, though. That's a hell of a psychology to run on somebody.
Starting point is 00:13:09 No, I think that that's. But do you know how generous you or somebody will have to be to get that? No. Listen, that's a really. cool thing about giving things, when you just be like, I think this, you just said it. What did you say? I would look really good standing next to it. Just imagine how good I would look inside of it.
Starting point is 00:13:26 So, let's all make that vision happen. We have the power to do so. Just give it to me. Is that your car, you drive it on Sundays or when you playing your music like this? Yeah. That's your favorite car? And I wouldn't hit one fucking curve. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I wouldn't. How do you know? Because I'm dedicated. I want this car. sit real low to the ground. I would A1, Chef Kisses. Because I would just glide.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I'd be so happy to have it. And I'd be like Carlos gave this to me. That's so fucking beautiful. I mean, you can't hit your blunt before you get in that. Because you say you'd be high when you'd be rubbing the curve. I don't hit buns anyway. Huh? I don't hit blunts anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:04 What you hit? The papers. It's different. I mean, well, you know, you can't your joint. You can't hit your joint, man. Excuse me. I'm a bottom feeder because I smoke a fucking blunt. My bad.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I guess I'm a goddamn catfish-ass tilapia-ass nigger because I smoke what ass all right then I sat the bottom goddamn I don't go fucking paper boozy who I had to save him from the street he ain't all we're here but he on the way that's hilarious I don't think I'll be that healthy to smoke paper but ashes be everywhere you taste the weed better though I taste the weed this too it's altered if I want to Taste the weed, for real, for real. I just chew the shit, or dip it like snuff. But you're talking to a different type of niggins. I'm just starting to gather.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You don't get it. I'm starting to gather. No, I love it. Really? I do, yes. I'm glad. I can tell. What you want to hear?
Starting point is 00:15:03 I want to hear his song. He don't have no song. I thought you just said. No. He made. He do music, not him. Oh, okay. No, I'm just listening.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I just listen to it. I like music. I don't make me. You started off. I want to hear a song that would inspire you to give me the car. We've got to listen to everything then. You said a song that what? Would inspire him to give me the car.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Oh, shit. He ain't having it. There's something I gotta tell you before you lay with me tonight. What you got? What you got? Oh, I told you I just heard this one. I just heard rescue me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Play that one. Rescue me. Give me the background. The background? Yeah. I don't sing background. No, I'm saying. You know, on the song.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Oh, give me the background? Okay. I'm like, so you know I'm high, though. I'm about to say, you're high. And I've been rolling all dating. She got offended. She got offended and you just asking for the story. I don't say no fucking background.
Starting point is 00:16:11 You know who you talking to? No, no, I don't, because I wouldn't know him. That's all I'm saying, Jay, O'L. Leave me no. Okay, the back story on this is, this is when I was really young. I was like early 20s and I was in a relationship that was wag, but I got out of it and I was ready to like really be rescued by a man. This is when you're young and you have all these like fantasies that, women from my age
Starting point is 00:16:33 back, we put men on a pedestal. Really? Stronger, yeah. I mean, I can't speak for everybody, but I'm from the South, you know, when we're growing up it's like a man is going to be there and be a night and shining armor. you grow up, you know, sometimes it happens. Sometimes it doesn't. But at this point, I truly believe in it. If you listen to the words, take a listen. Let's see. I believe. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Is that a thing? What? Do men want to rescue women? Yeah. Do you want to be like a woman's night and shining on? In real life? Yeah. See, I'm going to start getting the gym now so I can pick my woman up. That's the thing. Boy, stop playing. The only thing I want to do, the only reason I'm going to the gym so I can peek, man. You just get a small woman. Everybody ain't going to be small calling. I mean, he want to pick her up. He should be able to pick her up.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Hey, now, we ain't getting on that. This is your interview, not mine. We're not talking about me, what I can do. What song would inspire you to go to the gym to be able to pick up a woman? I believe I could fly. I'll be your player by tweet, Dad. Oh, that tick of the shit out of you don't. Herculee got down.
Starting point is 00:17:50 That was really good. I know it. It's tickle your funny bone, didn't it? Yes, it did. I'll be your player by Trickdance. They send me right to the gym. So I can pick me one up. I love that laugh.
Starting point is 00:18:05 What? Pick up. He probably already doing that. Okay. Yeah, I hurt myself. I got a herniaated dish trying to do that. Yeah, you're trying to do that. Trying to pick up them big old women.
Starting point is 00:18:16 No, I ain't say how big she was. Nothing problem. I just got caught up in the moment. And got reminded real quick. Pop up, you can't do that. But you did give an effort. I tried. I love that.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah, I tried. I love that. I played it all real. You know, maybe a tool for a short period of time. It was very short. She thought I was trying to slam her dine. I was like, move around with it and shit. We was both on the bed.
Starting point is 00:18:42 All right, nothing matter. But how I did it, she. She thought I was being extra rough, but I really dropped her ass. I'm glad she thought what she thought. Or Lee were trying to stroke my ego, and she knew I couldn't really do it. But either way, we had a ball. That's a tough question, though. You asked me if I got the same aspiration.
Starting point is 00:19:00 The only answer I can give is maybe kinder. Kind of? Kind of. What is the circumstances of the kind of situation, where it leans heavy on the kind of? What's the circumstance? Like, what's the situation? Why am I doing this? Okay, maybe she needs to be...
Starting point is 00:19:19 Because I always think... See this song, we talk about this song, like, rescue me. So it's like Night and Shining Alma, like... You might have to pick her up if you're rescuing her. Like, you run it and you white girl fall. And he has to come and, like, pick you up because you fuck your leg up, you know? Or it's something where, like, you got to pick her up from low and she have to pull up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:40 It might be a... Yeah, just picking up here. Yeah, it ain't just sensually. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, I was peeking sexually, but I still want to be able to pick her up. You know, she might twist her ankle while we walk in somewhere. Yeah, exactly. Anything can happen.
Starting point is 00:19:51 She might have on some boot with the heels on the line. And if you're not capable, then how can you really, you know. Because if another nigga got to pick her up, you fucked up. That's pretty fucked up. Yeah, you might well let him take on to the high. Yeah, that's, that is fucking. You pick my girl up, I can't do it. So she twist her in.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I don't think that would work good. That wouldn't work. So that's a rule you got to be able to pick her up. I think it should become one. It's just one of mine. I want to be able to pick up. You want to. And carry her.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I can pick her up now, but how far are we going? Yeah. Yeah. Or a situation where... The one I'm far away, now I can pick up. Or it's a situation where sometimes in bad judgment you put on the cuter shoe, then the more comfortable shoe and those feet just saying, I'm not putting my feet on the ground, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:39 So... You can get on my back then. Exactly. Yeah. We good for a few feet. There you go. Two yards. You feet.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah. Okay. Recreational pick up. Yeah. On my back anyway. Exactly. Yeah. You can get on my back.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah. So when you second guess, do you have those aspirations? Still kind of. Still kind of. Okay. That's safe. Situational. What makes you want to go then?
Starting point is 00:21:05 How about that? Do what? Pick somebody up? No, right. Pick nobody up. What would make you want to get up and go? Just a period. Get up and go do what?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Anything. Um, the excitement or challenge of the adventure, you know, something different, something unique, something fun. That's always inspiring. You live life on the edge. Not on the edge, but I like to have a clear view of it, you know, in case I want to get there. You like to do thrill-seeking shit? Thrill-seeking, no, because I don't want to die. I think life is really good, so I'm not jumping out of, like, no airplane.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Oh, yeah, I ain't doing it either. I definitely want to smoke weed in different places all around the world and, like, lay next to beaches all around the world and listen to music and different cultures. I got this something closer. I want to smoke weed all around the world, but I want to lay next to bitches across the red bird. Bitches? Yeah, yeah. You know? I don't like the beach.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Beach give me anxiety. Why? It's like the end of the earth. Nothing but dirt and water. I don't see that. I don't want to go to damn beat. That's where your faith comes in. You ain't going to have no fun.
Starting point is 00:22:10 No, he's not. No. You want them nicks and don't want to stand in his shoes. You're going to speak that. into existence. No, I don't like the beach. I'm saying, you're going to be at the beach. But then since you said bitches, that's who you're going to be with.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Boom. They're going to fuck your whole little time. Well, okay, women, real nice women. They're going to be down the beach with smoke niggas and everything. I don't want to be at the beach, though. Maybe he don't like the beach. I don't want to be at the beach, though. He then took the weed and everything.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Everything. And on the beach, you know, weed is just a sleep. bad life. You smoke and you don't like the beach. I just, it's boring in me. It's not. I mean, but you know, I'm, I can't tell you. But I think then it elevates. You go from laying next to the beach, then getting in the boat in the water and then, you know, it gets. I might do that. It's so nice. I'll fuck around. Listen to music, smoke, eat some good food. Yeah, that's a vibe. Yeah, that's a vibe. Play domino's cars on the boat, you know? Oh, so you play domino's I don't play either, but I like to watch people do it. You don't play nothing? Talking shit.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Listen, I grew up in a volatile environment when it came to games and it scared me as a kid. Like, you know, if you reneged or you play, you play too slow because you're trying to count the time. You don't see some people get their ass whoop. Or at least yelled at it and made cries. So I don't know. Throughout the family type shit. Yeah. But you don't play nothing, spades or nothing?
Starting point is 00:23:29 I can play it, but I'll be too high to pay attention. I'd rather be how. So you are the one that Renet and got yelled at and said, fuck it. But if I'm really paying attention and my sister to me and she really be playing cold, she's quiet. Nobody thinks she can really play. So if I'm going to play with her, she's going to have my best. back and she'll fuck him up. Yeah. That's my sister. Yeah. She looked like she on boo and she. Wave to me her. She ain't got, look, she looked like she on boo and shit.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I ain't got a wave. They don't know me over here. No, she don't give a fuck. Love her for that. That's how we living over here, though. Yeah. What's this right here? This is the record called Last Day that I initially wrote because I think my mother had just died back then. And it made me think about, and then when the guy and Paul Pauley, the producer record, he called me and told me how to beat. And he said that when you hear this, you're going to want to kill yourself. Because we used to stay crazy shit like that to each other. Oh, you can't say shit like that no more.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yeah, we used to say crazy shit like that. And so then I thought about it. It was my last day. I was in a morbid place because I just lost my mother. Yeah. And so I thought about what I would do the last day in my life. I'd be with my kids. You know, I would go to the beach.
Starting point is 00:24:36 In my last day, I might go to the beach. Come on. The last day, you got to go to the beach. You know what? I'm going to because of you, I'm going to try it again. I'm going to get a cabana. How do you usually go to the beach? Like, what do you do when you go to the beach?
Starting point is 00:24:52 Just walk. That's the problem. Sit the fuck still. You've got to go lay down and chill out. There's a bunch of people on the beach. No, to have the type of experience that you want to have, you got to go with some hoax. You know what? I ain't never went while I'm making no money.
Starting point is 00:25:06 No, you just, you got to go with some holes. Yeah, women know how to beach. Not women. Oh, holes? Okay, well, no, I don't... It's a difference. Because you see he just corrected me a minute ago with the bitches. That's one of the secrets of why they win it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Because they know how to have a good time. Right. And you heard what he wanted to do already. Okay. He's going by itself. Any nigga at the beach by himself walking around? Not about to have a good time. No.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Hey. All right. Because I ain't ever just really went. So I'm going to go. You got to start tricking, bro. I do that. You got to do a little tricking that you know, I don't mind. You know who you're talking to.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I hate to tell you, fellas, because you're a nice guy. At all. You got a trick. It's called old nigga tax. Yeah. Now I ain't saying put your self in jeopardy out here making terrible financial decisions. Don't do that. Older man.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Because once you're 35, you're an older man. Really? You got to have a few dollars in these streets. Because you didn't have time to get it. Right. You have had time. Only a few of us have gotten it, though. And then once I became an older nigga, I realized.
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Starting point is 00:26:49 of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws. Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfishes a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Clap, if you think, she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has x-ray vision. How could I not follow him? Honestly, I got to follow me. He can see right through me. Listen to Crimless on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, Dr. Lori Santos from the Happiness Lab here. It's the season of giving, which is why my podcast is partnering with Give Directly, a nonprofit that provides people in extreme poverty with the cash they need.
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Starting point is 00:28:39 not just for myself, but alongside others. I'm Mike De La Rocha. This is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now? Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it. And you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as people is just breath. Breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my guess. I don't want to go through all that. You've got to go through the wounds you're laughing. Listening to other people's near-death experiences. And that's all they say. In conclusion, love is the answer. Listen to Sacred Lessons as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Radhi de Vluka and I am the host of a really good cry podcast. This week I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the crappy childhood fairy, a creator, teacher, and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods.
Starting point is 00:29:50 We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies. And Anna opens up about her own story, what helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in. and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now. So when I got attacked, it was very random. Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend. And they broke my jaw on my teeth. I was unconscious.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Then I woke up and I screamed. And I screamed because even though I didn't know who I was or where I was, something in me was just like, hold on, wait, they could kill me and I'm not going to let that happen. I'm not going to let that happen. I'm going to get through this and I did. Listen to a really good cry on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Like if we're on the air here and I literally have my contract here and I'm looking at, you know, as soon as I sign this, I'm going to get a seven-figure check. I've told them I won't be working here in two weeks. From the underground clubs that shaped global music to the pastors and creatives who built a cultural empire. The Atlanta Ears podcast uncovers the stories behind one of the most influential cities in the world.
Starting point is 00:30:56 The thing I love about Atlanta is that it's a city of hustlers, man. Each episode explores a different chapter of Atlanta's rise. featuring conversations with ludicrous Will Packer, Pastor Jamal Bryan, DJ Drama, and more. The full series is available to listen to now. I really just had never experienced anything like what was going on in the city as far as like,
Starting point is 00:31:17 you know, seeing so many young, black, affluent, creatives in all walks of life. The church had dwindled almost to nothing. And God said, this is your assignment. And that's like how you know, like, okay, oh, you're from Atlanta for real. I ain't got to say too much. I'm a gradie, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Shut up. Listen to Atlanta is on the I Heart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Expound. On the pyramid scheme, the money trickle down, right? In the whole schematic things, right? You just don't know what you have for. You don't even know what you have for, man.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I'm not saying all. But some ladies be having sponsors. Okay. And these things are totally fine with what they're paying for. Yes. They're paying for a day time slot. It might not be every month. It might be three, four times a year.
Starting point is 00:32:10 But whatever he's spending is reserving his spot. Now, depending on the amount that he's supplying. It's going to determine his hierarchy amongst the set of men that she get money from. Not all, some in my experience. Now, listen, it's a few dudes on. the team, that's the money team. She got a $1,000 nigga, she got a $5,000
Starting point is 00:32:37 nigga, it's a $10,000 nigga in there. One nigga just pop up around Christmas. He don't even say shit. They're like, shut up. I don't fuck all that shit you're talking about. And then he'll send her like 10 racks. Like, he at the top of the pay list. I'm not him. No way. This is not everybody.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Then it's like three, four dudes that she liked. Now, they're spending money, but they're not giving it as freely as the money team. Then there's a backup team. She's active. Where does she get this fucking time from? I didn't realize that it was like this.
Starting point is 00:33:10 As men, a lot of niggas just figured out that you think it might be three or four dudes who like it. It's like 30 niggas. It's 33. You're the new nigger. You're like a fifth round draft pick. You ain't earned no spot. You ain't got no rep with the first team. nothing, nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Should do it. It's cold out here. Clearly. In these streets. That's why everybody on the internet arguing. That's very interesting. Why do they go to the internet to argue?
Starting point is 00:33:49 Because won't nobody else listen. The internet don't tell you to shut the fuck up until you actually put it out. You know what? That is so true. The internet lets you tell everything. Everything. Talk to me. it's your boy then they flip that shit
Starting point is 00:34:05 to some shit you never say people you ain't never heard of take a five second clip make you look like her asshole oh yes woman says she hate men okay fellas today we got another one
Starting point is 00:34:19 and you got a whole page dedicated to bullshit like this but it's entertainment it is and it's very time consuming where do people get this time to have 30 niggas sit and talk about
Starting point is 00:34:34 men and women all day where do you get the time from how do that work you make time for what's important to you so that's important to this is no disrespect that shit sounds miserable these not regular people you know how you'd be on
Starting point is 00:34:48 social media at like 9 o'clock in the morning it's some people who be on there from like 9 to 5 like a job then that's when the other people come on there you ever notice who don't be on there when shit is going on that's when they be on the different shit doing other shit
Starting point is 00:35:04 okay all right yeah people have time I'd be on it all you'd be surprised I don't I don't get off you engage and like
Starting point is 00:35:15 say things under people posts it's like because you're just thinking it you do that no he argumented it because I don't I don't want to be arguing with nobody now you come on my post and you say some shit
Starting point is 00:35:27 yeah I'm gonna let your ass have it As you should. Now, I'm not going to go on nobody else shit. I'm one of the people who, if you didn't ask me, I'm not going to fucking say nothing. Who asks me? Who asks you? Exactly. So I treat people the same way when you come on my pay.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Like, who the fuck asks you? Exactly. And I ask them to. You don't seem like you argue with people. I don't. No. Because I know that you can't fix whatever they're arguing about. It just makes me feel.
Starting point is 00:35:51 But sometimes they just pissed you off and you just want to say what the fuck you feel. It makes me feel better. I call it giving people their shit. Because they be trying to give you something that ain't. You give them their shit back, so you don't have to hold it. No, why are you talking to me? You have to listen to her from the other side to put yourself in their shoes. And what is that?
Starting point is 00:36:13 I don't want cheap shoes. Boom! We like that. We like that. All the shit that they didn't seem today, all the shit they didn't pass back. This was the shit that got them. These are the people You make you feel sorry for the motherfucker
Starting point is 00:36:32 You have to Because think about it You can be going through some shit You just posting some shit Ain't got nothing to do with you You just fucking around But then these people Who don't fuck with you
Starting point is 00:36:45 They show up every time you post some So would that tell you They need you Out of all the shit to hate You hate this? This is a motherfucker's doing way better with way more and you got to find me I don't even know if you're real
Starting point is 00:37:01 first of all I'm a comedian why you give a fuck about what I'm posting that'd be so butt hurt how you mad at a nigga and I didn't even know you was on earth like I posted this like hey
Starting point is 00:37:18 it's about to be a random man stranger I'm about to get on their nerves with this one who gives a fuck I don't know you I really posted this shit of me and my nine friends can lay. I think it just annoys me how important. Like, don't flatter yourself, motherfucker. Like you said, I don't even know you exist.
Starting point is 00:37:34 So why are you even talking to me? I'm not trying to. But you know what? I'm not going to lie, though. I can read a bunch of people saying nice things, and I'd be thinking in my head, thank you, that's so sweet because I get a lot, a lot of kind comments.
Starting point is 00:37:44 You do, you do. And it's the one person that says a fuck-thush. I can't want to say something to them. Don't. Because everybody know I'm nice. But don't play with me. I'm kind. I'm not nice.
Starting point is 00:37:53 That's a lie. I'm not nice. I'm kind. Nice and kind is two different things. Nice is based in nightity. Just like I'm not kind, but I'm kind-hearted. I like when people talk shit and their page open. Yeah. That's my heart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And I find some fucked up shit and then I say some fucked up shit back. That's what I'm saying. I feel like that's what they wanted anyway. They just wanted to be seen. And then you give it to them. Everybody blessed. Yeah, but I'm going to do it in a real condescending kind of way. I don't want it to
Starting point is 00:38:22 be. I want them to think that I'm fucking with it. I'm gonna be real sarcastic. Oh, whatever you got me fucked up at. I'm from New Orleans and like, we just really say the foulest shit to people. That's what I'm talking. We say the mean and shit to people, like, really mean stuff. Don't let me see you at a funeral on your page. Oh, no, not the dead people. But that's kind of what they want, though.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Because if you think about it, the same way people can love you, it's some people who need some hate to keep them fueled, too. Mm-hmm. Like, they got to come to your page and say some hate. hateful shit. So you'll come say some hateful shit back. Like, they thrive off hate the same way other people. So do you think we should go higher? We should rise above that? Uh-uh. Meaning, I think we should be, we should go to the gun with them. We should be roodoo-to-rooting. And we should clean ourselves off and go back up to the top. But fuck that. You can't let people play with you. No, you can. If I fell.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah, go ahead and do it and then let them see it. I like, like, we've got to be more productive though. We gotta show people the same. The people who show us love, they don't... Right. They don't get the same energy back. You're right. I feel back. Let's make a pack. That we're gonna... You're gonna make the pack with me? It depends on what it is. Okay, so this is the pack.
Starting point is 00:39:37 You can really talk me in all kind of shit. Okay, I like that. The car? We'll talk about it. Okay. We can discuss it. Okay. Further. It's off the air. So we make a pack that we'll start giving more attention to positive stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:53 That's all I do now. I try. I do. I do. Yeah, I do too. And I answer back sometimes, too, but I'm going to make it a point to start. That's what you got to do. When they say hate for shit, just like it.
Starting point is 00:40:05 But I don't like it. But that's. It's fucked with them, though. Yeah. Like, damn, you ain't even saying that bad. You just liked it. Yeah, I like that shit. Keep that going.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Keep that going. I don't want them to. It fucks with them. I don't want to fuck with them. Confuse the enemy. Confused the enemy. No, because we're going to have, that's going to be the fucking, that's the shit, though. We're going to have a top 50 list of all our haters.
Starting point is 00:40:29 That's how you're going to know if your shit good or not. If your haters don't show up and fuck with it. Do people really hate you? They have to love you to bother you like that. You have to have some emotion. You have to have some emotion. You have to have some emotion. You got to have some motion.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Because ain't nobody going on a nobody paid talking shit. Right. Nobody's happened, don't have to deal with that. God bless them all. You got to be popping a little bit. You got to be doing something. Back to the car. What is the deal?
Starting point is 00:40:57 When did this become a thing? When you told me you had a car I liked and I want it? You said you got three of them. I think it's really. But it might be a reason he got three though. It's the reason people have three. But if you have three, you don't need three. They might be all different in a way.
Starting point is 00:41:17 But we'll discuss it because he's a hater. This is what you mean when you say hater. I get it. Okay. Oh, hey. That's what you're doing. No, but now that I know that you like stuff like that, I'll consider it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Thank you. That's all I have. That's all I have. I think so, too. Why don't you just put it in a video and then give it back? Why don't you just put it in a video and then give it back? Let's go negotiate like some months. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:44 You can let your hair blow. It could be like a really good experience. I'm into night experience. You all yourself. I hate her. You're going to take care of it? Yes, I would. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I definitely would. You wash your own? Don't break the teetops, though. Would you wash out? I wouldn't. Would you watch that? If it wasn't part of the agreement. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Otherwise, I would get a really good professional to do it. Okay. I'm just saying you say you wanted to take it out and you was like, I need to take the teetops out. You're going to be careful with them because they're glass. Yeah, but I would just say, can you take them out first? Then I'll bring them back and you put them back. So you're going to keep them out. but in the garage?
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yes. Okay. You know how like when people adopt, like, when you got some puppies and people want to give them, you got a screen and make sure that they... Yeah, you got to build them and make sure they're going to a good home. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Mm-hmm. Okay. It took you a little while to answer about that garage. It did because I had to think about the space that it would be in, you know. Oh, if it's not going to be important to you, if it's not going to get moving into a decent spot, like a middle spot? No. It would be in a very...
Starting point is 00:42:51 The daily driver. It's not mine. I'm being loaned a car. I respect that you've done that. Okay. I'm going to put it in the proper place. Okay. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Because I'm really scheming on trying to get it long term like forever. It's a scheme. It's an open scheme. Oh, it's a scheme. You let them talk longer until they're going to tell. You don't know. You don't know anything told me. It's a scheme.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Because I think if I do good, I mean, we all scheming every day. Let's not. We all scheming towards something, right? Yeah. So it's an open scheme. If I do really well, then Carlos Smy say, oh, man, this is fun for you. You can have it. It's not, you know, the word scheme doesn't mean all the time that it's, like, vicious and, like, sneaky. Okay, you're right.
Starting point is 00:43:33 But you know what? I'm going to make sure you get one. Okay. Just, you know, consider me. That's all I'm saying. You said, like, a 76 or something? 75, 76, yeah. She got that down pat. Like, that's, she saw one and never forgot them. I was a little kid. You know, you see something kids. Yeah. You really want it. Which one Cleopatra had? That's all I know. Cleopatra Joan. That's a movie back in the day. She played. Yeah. You know the movie. Pam Greer? Nah. I'm lost them too. Pam. Pam. Pahree or Foxy Brown? She was Cleopatra too, right? Yeah. See, he's trying to confuse me. Who was the lady that had the black Corvette back in there? I thought her name with Cleo Patra?
Starting point is 00:44:23 I wouldn't know. Brother, you just gave the most vague description. In the movie, though, she drove a black corvette with the alfro. This type of shit, black people do. They give you the most minimum. Often to look it up. Because I used to watch this shit from my daddy, man. And expect you to know who they're talking about.
Starting point is 00:44:38 The white dude, with the hat on. Often to look this shit up. Look that shit up, and let me say this. Welcome back to the 85 South Show. Y'all, clap. I don't know kicking everybody out of the studio. I don't know if it was the second hand smoke, but y'all were way off you on that one.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I should have bade it y'all because the Foxwoods and Brown, I mean, Pam Grill was not Cleo Patrick John. Okay. The lady name was Tamara Dobson. Tamara Dobson. That's what you come back with. I mean, hey. She drove that car.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I remember. I don't think I ever saw this still. I just saw the... That's a good movie. I'm opposed to. A good movie. We got a very special guest in the house with us today, J.O.N. Justin Whitehead.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yes, sir. Beautiful. Songstress. A great writer. Great performer. Great singer. Great artist. Great talent is amongst us today.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Ms. Tidromosis. Got it up. Yes. Welcome to the 85 South Show. Thank you for having me. No, thank you for stopping through here. I know you've been on a hell of a press run. You've got some things coming out.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yes. Tell us about everything you got going on. Well, last year we celebrated 20 years of Complex Simplicity. We did a tour. We did Tiny Desk, we kind of just celebrate it. Right. And we decided during the celebration that we were going to take seven songs from the album and we were going to reimagine them.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And so I just put out on November, I want to say 12th, Complex Simplicity Reimagined, seven songs. It's just a new vibe, different. I like it. My day ones are saying they like it. That's all that matters to me. That's all that matters. That's all that matter.
Starting point is 00:46:44 That's all. How's it feel? 20 years. It feels really good. So to be able to do it, do it how you want to do it, own it, and continue to do it after 20 years is a huge blessing. I don't take it for granted. And I'm really, really, really, really, really grateful to the people that have been with me on this journey. And the new people.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Hmm. Yeah. Now, we were just talking. I wanted to know. What's your philosophy on the haters? I don't believe in haters. I think that you have to really like me to pay a lot. attention enough to find something to hate about me, you know what I mean? So I take it as like a
Starting point is 00:47:23 compliment. Now, if you just are indifferent about me, that's different. That might bother me a little bit that you don't even care that I exist. You know what I mean? But when you care, now sometimes when people say hateful stuff, I will say something back, not because I care so much, but just don't do that. It's like a slap on the hand. Like, don't do that. That's rude. I had this great comedian friend named Tyler Craig. He's always they, sometimes you got to show people what real love look like so they know what it is. But sometimes it's not me
Starting point is 00:47:53 that's supposed to do that. Sometimes. Sometimes it's not me. You already got their attention. Because you know what? I started with the love. Start with the love. I start with respect.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I start with love. When I see something different coming, my mother raised her, she said, treat people like you want to be treated. Right. But she forgot about the part, treat people like you want to be treated until they treat you in a way
Starting point is 00:48:13 you don't want to be treated, then you treat them like they deserve to be treated, right? Yeah. I'm not going to keep being kind of to you if you're not being kind of me that's why I treat everybody a little bit fucked up Carlos how we get there because you said treat them how I want to be treated you want to be fucked up so I treat them a little bit worse than you know what I'm saying then I think they
Starting point is 00:48:32 deserve to be treated sometimes just to see if they realize that I'm doing it Carlos what that's trickery no it's not this nigger line he got one of the best hearts oh I think so too I follow Carlos I be in your stories and Carlos you do you You want to make people, like, you're kind. You try to act like you're so like, but you're not. Don't blow my cover. You're a sweetheart. If they find out I'm a good person, they don't turn on me.
Starting point is 00:48:58 No, you're a good person. I think people want you to be a good person. Yeah. You don't fuck with homeless people, though. Yes, I do. I never said that I'm fucking with no homeless people. I didn't take it that way. I got kicked out the black community.
Starting point is 00:49:12 They said I am. I officially out. They said that? But I didn't got kicked out the black community. like 15 times, bro. But you always find your way back. I'd be saying people weasel my way back in.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I'd just be seeing people fuck with in a good way. No, you don't have to come to the other side, man. It's dark over there. It's fun, though. Do you ever think about saying something in people, like how you say you get kicked out 15 times? Do you ever think about that?
Starting point is 00:49:41 Like, this is going to put me in a situation again? Or you just say it and don't give a fuck? No, because you can't think about shit like that. I'm in the business of saying shit I'm not always going to say the right shit but the talent comes in is navigating your way around
Starting point is 00:50:00 what that right and wrong shit is that's a hell of a way to put it because think about it I could have already said the shit that they really upset about you just never know when it cycles through and it's like and it comes back up Well, people are upset about changes every day, too.
Starting point is 00:50:19 That's what I'm saying. I already said the shit that's going to make them furious 10 years ago. It's just going to take them 10 years to find it to be mad about it. Are you over it? And now 10 years later, they're going to cancel you for some shit you over. Yeah. That's how dirty the game is right now. Can you really be counseled?
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yes. No, I don't think so. Who the fuck? You're not God. Somebody somewhere, I think people care about how many people are paying attention. Somebody's going to still be paying attention, you know? Yeah, to make sure you still counsel. That shit don't matter.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Somebody's going to want to be on the side of whatever fuck shit you are. Somebody. I don't know if it's the really the council part. I think they just narrow it down to how many people really fuck with you. You thought it was four million, but it was 400. Do you think it's certain people who? Just can't be canceled. I don't think Dave Chappelle can be.
Starting point is 00:51:24 He says things that are part, like, in communities where you really not supposed to come back from. I think he does. That's Bousie too, then. Boosey can't be canceled because he's in a different type of. Right. What are you going to expect? He's already said it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:42 How are you going to get mad at somebody for being exactly who the fuck they are? If you fuck with him, you know who they are. So if you don't fuck with him, you just, you wouldn't fuck with him anyway because you don't like the kind of person he is. Right. You know, if you... So you ain't really counseling him.
Starting point is 00:51:54 You can't cancel him because the people that he's talking to feel the same way. But who's fuck said we all had to agree. Thank you. You're right. That means we, like as humans, we're supposed to disagree about some shit. So the people who agree with you don't cancel you.
Starting point is 00:52:10 The one shit we disagree about, mean we disagree about everything. Exactly. That's bullshit. A lot of bullshit. But the people who agree with you won't cancel you. So you can't be counseling. And like she said, the people who cancel you don't fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:52:24 They have to do everything. You used to be so much better. Right. Used to be so much better. When did we become so judgmental, bro? And sheepish. We used to all kick it together. We were like, hey, that's James.
Starting point is 00:52:38 He do powder. I don't do powder. But that's my dog. Social media just made everybody. It's very dirty. Social media just changed everybody's aspect and opinions of a lot. I don't know if it changed it.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I think it just made it. It magnified. It magnified it. Because a lot of it, you got to keep in mind, this is all the shit people used to think about and say around the house. Now it's just out there for everybody. And everybody thinks that
Starting point is 00:53:07 we give a fuck about what they think. That's the part. Everybody's opinion. became valid. I'd be like, don't feel of yourself. It's valid to you in your circle and people that think like you. But just because you have an opinion
Starting point is 00:53:20 that's not something that everybody have to go along with. Exactly. It's like an asshole. Boom, bell. Everybody got one. Boom bail. Unless you'll buzz up.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Then you're even worse. I don't go fuck what you think. Yeah. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers. And what is this? How is that not a story we all know? What's this?
Starting point is 00:53:50 Where is that? Why is it wet? Boy, do we have a show for you? From Smartless Media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players, comes Crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists. And me, Roy Scoval, comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways, folks, have broken the laws.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfish is a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think, she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has x-ray vision. How could I not follow him?
Starting point is 00:54:31 Honestly, I got to follow me. He can see right through me. Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside others. I'm Mike De La Rocha. This is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now?
Starting point is 00:55:01 Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it. And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts. that we can do as people just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing.
Starting point is 00:55:22 You think, well, I'm going to get my guess. I don't want to go through all that. You've got to go through the wounds you're laughing. Listening to other people's near-death experiences, and it's all they say. In conclusion, love is the answer. Listen to Sacred Lessons as part of the My Coutura Podcast Network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Dr. Lori Santos from the Happiness Lab here. It's the season of giving, which is why my podcast is partnering with Give Directly, a nonprofit that provides people in extreme poverty with the cash they need. This year, we're taking part in the Pods Fight Poverty campaign. And it's not just the Happiness Lab. Some of my favorite podcasters are also taking part. Think Jay Shetty from On Purpose, Dan Harris from 10% Happier, and Dave Desteno from How God Works, and more.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Our goal this year is to raise $1 million, which will help over 700 families in Rwanda living in extreme poverty. Here's how it works. You donate to give directly, and they put that cash directly into the hands of families in need. Because those families know best what they need, whether it's buying livestock to fertilize their farm, paying school fees, or starting a small business. With that support, families can invest in their future and build lasting change. So join me and your favorite podcasters in the Pods, poverty campaign. Head to give directly.org slash happiness lab to learn more and make a contribution. And if you're a first time donor, giving multiplier will even match your gift. That's give
Starting point is 00:56:51 directly.org slash happiness lab to donate. Hi, I'm Radhi de Vluka and I am the host of a really good cry podcast. This week, I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the crappy childhood fairy, a creator, teacher, and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods. We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies.
Starting point is 00:57:18 And Anna opens up about her own story, what helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now. So when I got attacked, it was very random. Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend. And they broke my jaw on my teeth.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I was unconscious. Then I woke up and I screamed. and I screamed because even though I didn't know who I was or where I was, something in me was just like, hold on, wait, they could kill me, and I'm not going to let that happen. I'm not going to let that happen. I'm going to get through this, and I did. Listen to a really good cry on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Hey, I'm Kelly, and some of you may know me as Laura Winslow. And I'm Telma, also known as Aunt Rachel. If those names ring a bell, then you probably are familiar with the show that we were both on back in the 90s called Family Mac. Kelly and I have done a lot of things and played a lot of roles over the years. But both of us are just so proud to have been part of Family Matters. Did you know that we were one of the longest running sitcoms with the black cast? When we were making the show, there were so many moments filled the joy and laughter and cut up that I will never forget. Oh, girl, you got that right.
Starting point is 00:58:27 The look that you all give me is so black. All black people know about the look. On each episode of Welcome to the Family, we'll share personal reflection. about making the show. Yeah, we'll even bring in part of the cast and some other special guests to join in the fun and spill some tea. Listen to Welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly
Starting point is 00:58:47 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And then the Internet put us around a bunch of people we weren't never supposed to be around anyway. These are people we were never supposed to see, hear, talk to, look at pictures of. It's really weird when you... Me, go weird.
Starting point is 00:59:07 We really sitting around looking at somebody photo album that we don't know, trying to decide if we like them as people or not. I think I'm aware. You're right. That's just people are giving you the good reel of like how it goes or what they think is like going to get your attention. So I don't never think that I'm getting to know people. Another thing I can't do, this is jump shit real quick,
Starting point is 00:59:32 the swiping and liking the dating apps. It's like that is so. How does that work? I don't know. I didn't know. Do you know? No, I used to get on plenty of fish back in the day, but I used to catch brims and shit like that, so I just got off of it.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Okay, I'm lost. What happened there? What's the brim? You don't know what a brimmy? I don't. Oh, my God. What kind of fish you eat? Small little fish.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Oh, it's a fish? Yeah. You're from the south. You don't know where the brimmy is? No, because I don't go fishing. I don't go fishing either, but I got you fucked up. He thought you was out. I'm out here fishing and shit.
Starting point is 01:00:08 No, because I don't go fishing. I would like it, but I don't know, like the fish. I eat with the cook. I don't have enough patient to fish, so I don't go fish neither. I don't go fishing either, but I know. They get up at 5 o'clock in the morning and go fishing. But I know where the brim is. It's a fish.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Is it good? They got a lot of bones in it. Oh, no, I don't want that. Your grandma tell you, that's really grown folk fish, you're not supposed to be eaten. Yeah, because you're going to kill yourself, trying to eat that with all that fish. Get a little light bread with it and watch. Eat it slow. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Real country, you know. I love that, but I'm not interested. So do you eat catfish, crawfish? Crawfish, yeah. I just don't like a lot of bones because it's like... So you're a filet type. I like filet. It's for the safety of the family.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I like the filet, but even if I'm eating with a bone fish, just in places where it's like spying, bop, bop, just not all randomly. Yeah, I guess. In small places where I'm just spitting out bones constantly barely eating fish. I'm not doing this. I could. Yeah, that's a lot. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Once again, congratulations on the 20 years. Thank you very much. You're a very talented singer. Thank you. And speaking of social media, you're always going viral. Always. Okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Comparing you? Yeah, I know. I want to set the record straight for all the people that think that I don't like being told that I look like Felicia Rashad. I do. I love that. That's great. I just don't see it. And I think that's a compliment. You don't see it at all? A little maybe, but not to the extent of these people are saying. And I think it's crazy
Starting point is 01:01:47 that they get mad at me for saying that I don't see it. I think they want me to lie and say I see it. She's dropped there. You probably ain't going to see it, though. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is a woman. I look at her and her sister, like, in a very high regard. You know what I mean? She is definitely It's a few pictures, though, where it's like Hold up. They're like dead ass They called the right angle.
Starting point is 01:02:10 She's like how you just look Black people, though. You know everybody looked like somebody. We all related. That boy looked you like, Jimmy Earl. Exactly. Exactly. You're going to meet Uncle Jimmy Earle
Starting point is 01:02:21 until you 37. They used to always say I look like you, yeah, well, that was back then. Yeah, yeah, I see it. You see it? I see it. My son said they see it. My sister said they see it.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah. Everybody ain't lying now. I'm not saying anything. I know I'm just, you know. I'm just not going to lie and say I see it. You know, she's beautiful. She's gorgeous. I'm telling you, in my opinion, she's...
Starting point is 01:02:44 Think of it like... Three most beautiful ones. Like if they made like a good-ass biopic picture about it and you was in it, they'd be like, girl, you did your motherfucker fucking gang. Okay, all right. That's what it is. Okay. Like a good version.
Starting point is 01:02:57 They come over that check, you'll see it in one. The vision will be clear. Yeah, you'll be clear. Yeah, you'll be. You're like, I've been trying to tell these motherfucking, I look just like her. I mean, who better to do it than me? Exactly. The hell are you mean?
Starting point is 01:03:10 You know what is? I think that the thing that whoever would play her would have to get her facial expression. Right. She had the coldest facial expressions, you know? Like, if we found out like y'all was related, like granddaddies was brothers or some shit, we'd be like, I fucking told, Joe. That's all they. Because you don't, you don't just look that much like a motherfucker and y'all ain't got the same blood. Same trap.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Right. Same tribes. Yeah. They're from the south. Yeah. You know, it could be. Like y'all. I wouldn't be mad at it.
Starting point is 01:03:41 You shouldn't be that. That's great lineage. Yeah, yeah. When did you fall in love with music? Um, somewhere around, what is the age when you start to be able to choose your own music? You're not just listen to your parents' music. It probably was before, because I think Anita Baker was really the first person that I really. So I was young enough.
Starting point is 01:04:01 young enough to have to just listen to my mother was listening to. Yeah. My mother was a gospel singer, so she didn't listen to a lot of secular music, but there were particular ones like Luther Vandro, Tone, a mother-like tone. She listened to Luther Vandross, Anita Baker. And I think Anita Baker was the one where it was like, this is so good. This is really good. It feels really, really good.
Starting point is 01:04:22 And I used to go next door to a friend of mine's house, me and my older sister, my name was Shantella. I might be getting her in trouble with we grown now. It's not that big of a deal, right? And we used to go to her house. Her parents would be going to the country, and we would drink all. I was like about 10. New Orleans, you don't have nothing to do.
Starting point is 01:04:40 We would just drink and listen to Peter Baker. Drink what? Drink whatever he had in the car. Dad had in the cabinet. We just drink. Yeah, you get your sister laughing like hell back down. This is what we did. She went with you?
Starting point is 01:04:53 No, she was too little. Oh, okay. She was too little. She was too little. She wasn't 10 yet. You can't start drinking to you 10. Listen, in the South. You can't handle it.
Starting point is 01:05:00 When you get big, you're going to get drunk with us. And I'm not a drinker. I don't drink like that. You dated at 10, hey, you don't want my most. And I didn't drink that much just enough to have a little buzz and sway and listen to Anita Baker. At 10 years old. We were like grown. We were some grown-ass ladies at 10 years old.
Starting point is 01:05:17 You were just missing a cigarette. Yeah, that was always not cute until I found weed. Cigarettes aren't cute to me. It stink too much. Weed has like a, especially when you smoke the good kind. It has a good aroma, don't you think? I love it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Yeah. I agree. 10 years old. Drinking listening to her. Drinking Belford listening to a needle. I was not barefoot. No, that's the liquor. I don't even know what that is.
Starting point is 01:05:41 That wine. Yeah, I know you weren't Belford. I wasn't drinking that. You know what? What was it? When I was younger, we drank really harsh liquor. Mad Dog 2020. Morgan David.
Starting point is 01:05:55 God, damn. I would have just stuck with Balford, but okay. I didn't ever heard. this. What was the turkey? What's the turkey? Wild turkey. Wild turkey and put Kool-Aid in it. Is it Irish? I don't know. You said do what with it? Put Kool-Aid and shake it up. Oh my God. Yeah, y'all. We drank early, but then I stopped, I didn't, I can't drink. I can still drink to this day. I just don't like it. That was an early four loco right now, bro. I didn't do the four local, but it was a
Starting point is 01:06:24 Cisco by the time I got to L.A. They had Cisco. Cisco. Yeah. We used to drink. And I still kept my compulsion. That's the shit. When you finish the ball and you hit a motherfucker up outside of the head with it. Just start fighting. For no reason. No, just bring the spirits that's already in you out.
Starting point is 01:06:39 That's all it does. Damn. 10, you know. Why are you trying to shame me? I'm not. I'm just like, God damn. He's shocked. But it made you find music, though.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Shit. You know. Yeah, I mean, I think that is, this might be, like, very unpopular. I think it's good to have experiences to learn what you don't like. Like, you know, why wait? Why would I wait until I'm like 18, 19, and everybody going crazy drinking and don't know what I'm doing? I learned somewhere around 14, 15. This school is cute, but I don't want to do this forever.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Yeah. You know? I feel you on that. When you start drinking? He was 11, I think. You were? 22. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah. I was older than that. about the shit. Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't. Never did you drink? No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Gotcha. I don't really drink. I don't either. A lot of drinkers. A lot of drunk motherpuzzle. So you didn't really like the vibe? No, because I saw him before and after. My grandma used to get drunk and cussed my mama, but it wasn't her mama.
Starting point is 01:07:49 It was my daddy mama. Yeah. And see she is- Oh, it's funny. And then it ain't funny no mom. No, it's not. Because that's what happened. They, first, they started up.
Starting point is 01:07:58 First, they start off, then there's like, yeah, you could tell. Then they hit that move. Yeah, they tell the drunk. The fun part is good. Then after the fun part, it goes very bad. But when the mean part come out. That's what it was, though. That's what fucked the family.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Because we used to have to go get my grandma because she wanted off. Because the last turned in the crann and all kind of shit. Then they started telling you the real shit. And you start figuring out would really be wrong with people. You don't never look at them and saying, y'all eating up every goddamn thing. I can't stand when y'all come over here. Yeah, you wake up the next morning and wonder why one nobody
Starting point is 01:08:34 talking to his head. Oh, it'd be deeper. But what I do last night? You said you hate that's over here. I ain't said that goddamn shit. My mama was forgiven. Yeah, but my grandma used to, see, my grandma used to get drunk
Starting point is 01:08:48 with a man named Mr. Pat. Okay. And when she get drunk, she'll want to all somewhere, and my dad were real popular. One to all. Yeah. Somebody.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Don't tell him where his girlfriend. My dad were real popper. Oh, my grandma was at. No, she'd just be walking around a day with a drink. No, she wouldn't. No, the fucking she wasn't. Mom had a location, baby. I didn't know to be.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Huh? What is it? Mom had an appointment, honey. No. No. Somebody to see my... You don't want to be your girlfriend. No one is that.
Starting point is 01:09:22 What's your grandma? What's my grandma. Hey! Didn't you, she wasn't walking around. She was still Mr. Pat. You called him Mr. No, her name. That's what she told you.
Starting point is 01:09:43 What's she calling, Pat? Oh, she's calling Patrick. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my mom. This nigga here. Oh. My dad was a fireman, so he couldn't leave work.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Oh, yeah. So he'll call Luster come get my mom. And so my grandma will get mad and so my mama will come get my grandma outside the road We'll take her home and she just called my mama all kind of red bitches the whole yuh She's like I don't know why gerald marriage it bitch the whole right on you don't even know that was just day cold For what talking in front of them kids oh remember they cold talking in front of kids yeah what you think happened when y'all went to bed Why are you crying though your mom and your grandma said that
Starting point is 01:10:28 up talking shit. I don't know about them. You had Mr. Paco, bitch. We rode his motorcycle all the Knottesville in the city. What y'all do with Knoxville? Bitch went to the music.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Mr. Pat were they landlord. Never mind. I ain't going to tell Dicker. You're going to go deeper. No, no, no, no, no. Scrash that from the record. Scrash that from the record. You see the story get deeper. Yeah, let it turn it go.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Let me let it lose. I'm through it. I'm through it. A load's going to go deeper. You see. He's always. this way. All these years he thought grandma were walking around.
Starting point is 01:11:03 What's you all? Bless your heart. Mom, I don't have to tell you where your grandma was at. That's not up to me to tell you. That's so sweet and innocent for you. Yes, it is. Oh, your grandma is such, have regard. It is.
Starting point is 01:11:20 But she ain't got drunk and walked around around. Hell no. How good, this is no GPS days. You think your mama just knew where to come your grandma up at? Come on, man. They used to call and tell her where they're seen her at. Where they seen her at. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:40 It's the same place every time. You ain't none of that shit adding up to you. Babe. We go pick grandma up and take her home. Yes. She knew where your grandma was going when she left home. It was my dad and mom. They were her mom.
Starting point is 01:11:55 They were tightly like that. No, no. How about you? Your grandma get drunk and when y'all went to bed, you like my real daughter. You picked me up from all my adventures. All my adventures. You were wrong with doing his grandmother like that. He had to hear from somebody.
Starting point is 01:12:12 And a loving story. I don't even know if my grandma used to drink, I just know he used to fuck up. He didn't turn this into therapy. This is how comfortable you make. I love it. They just want to open up and share this shit with you. I love it because I care from the heart. People have been acting strange ever since you got him.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I think it's a very good vibe in here. I know, but everybody love you, for real. Oh, that's kind. I love people, too. I really do. Why you look at me like that? You just told me a minute ago you weren't kind. I am kind.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I'm not nice. There you go. Stand on that. Yeah, it's the truth. But that's good, though, because when you're nice, people run over you. Yeah, I don't have time for that. Yeah. People don't like to fuck with you.
Starting point is 01:12:54 It's certain words that are kind of tricky. nice is a word that people say you're so nice it's almost like a slight it's like you're naive you're trying to convince me to like you and you're doing things but I'm kind I do things because I want to at any moment I want to turn it off
Starting point is 01:13:10 I can because I'm not doing this because you're manipulated me into it I'm doing it because I want to at any point I don't want to do it anymore it's done right and people never know when that's coming you don't want to be kind anymore but you've done shit and you know that
Starting point is 01:13:24 and you keep trying to go to the edge, you know and then all of a sudden you're like I don't want to be kind anymore. Can you believe people call me mean? Yes. I can't believe that. I can't. That's not what I get from your spirit. Because I'm not mean.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I don't get a mean spirit. I don't. And why would you say that about this man? Why would you say he's mean? Because if you didn't know him, you would think he mean. You think so? Yeah. don't say me. A lot of people get introduced to him and he cussing somebody out. And how do you get to this place of cussing somebody out? Because he wanted to be...
Starting point is 01:14:03 I know they did stuff. He wanted the best cusses of our generation. Oh, I love that. Yeah, I will admit that. Give me a scenario. What do you mean? Okay, let's, you give him a scenario. Like, somebody did something he got to cuss him out. And I want to get a little taste of how to cuss him go. Can you do that for me? With ease. It just depends on what it is. He's about to give you a situation. Okay. the scenario is this lady that you met asked you to come pick up you then drove all the way to where she told you to pick up you get there and she ain't there you you wait You calling it You calling it
Starting point is 01:14:58 You call me She ain't answered She ain't answered No soon as you get back On your side of town She's blowing your phone Oh ain't her you're calling me now Yeah
Starting point is 01:15:12 You might well quit calling my motherfucking phone I don't need to call me now Why the fuck would you have me come way over there To pick your ass up No good goddamn where you wouldn't be there When I pull up Now you blowing my shit up Man, find somebody else
Starting point is 01:15:26 the goddamn fuck with But that ain't even it That wasn't, that's like, that wasn't even That's just kind of annoying me Piss me off What'd have pissed you off? It's very, it's a lot It wouldn't take much
Starting point is 01:15:39 But that just would When that lady had that little boy Washing that, doing that laundry Yeah, now that ticked me off Why would you even make a kid do goddamn lunge? Do you watch my 600 pound line? No. You don't, save your son.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Tell her what it's about. I know what it is about I've seen the commercials, but I've never seen the show. Yeah, just don't watch that shit, because I've watched it act by accident, and it annoys me. I can't, like, it really chaps my ass. I can't even. Like, they get up that bullshit.
Starting point is 01:16:09 They get up in the morning time, and then that's what pissed me out because, you know, we are entertainer, so I know they got to come and put a fucking microphone on your back. Now they want to pretend like they're waking up in the morning. Like, they had to let a fucking camera crew inside of the fucking house. You know what I'm saying? Shit like this. Then they get up.
Starting point is 01:16:23 They tell you this long. boring ass sob story about how they hate themselves and then they go take a shower in a fucking clear-ass shower show they bite off and shit like that and then they go eat a fucking meal big enough for everybody in this son bitch to have enough i hate that shit and then they want to bullshit around and tell you oh it's water weight or what else they say okay yeah you got just watch a couple episodes of it not a lot of it you got to watch history this is what i did hear that they always have a significant other but it be nobody that that It don't mean nobody, nobody wants.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Who the fuck want these people? Watch them. Nobody wants these people. Now, this is my theory. The people that fuck with them people on that show, they freak it as hell. Who did? Some of them be fresh out of prison.
Starting point is 01:17:09 They need a place to stay. Some of them be fucked up. Like the men that these women have, you wouldn't want none of these niggas? Okay. None of them. Because the fat men that, I don't want none of the women they have. Man, I just feel like we're not using our full potential.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Because if you could find somebody that'll cook your ass, two packs of bacon, sauce, six, eight, eggs, 10 biscuits, a gallon of orange juice. You're right. And bring it in your bed. Brer. You out here anybody is fucking. You're telling me you can't find nobody. Nick. Man, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Before I live on the bridge, I'd be a short order cook too, right? this bitch. What's the sake, babe? Walk in that motherfucker with an apron on, no draws on the bitch. With my god-down tray in the hand. I'm telling you, man. That's indeed. Before I'm homeless, that's what people be on. I just think that all the people out here who are able they're something about that shit that just make you think you better than somebody. Think about it, bro. I remember one time I got off on the exit and I saw like the homeless nigga, but he was like hustling. You know how you can see a homeless
Starting point is 01:18:27 and you can tell he hustling, this nigga ain't like hustled up a cooler and he had him and his girl out there selling water. They was together. You're out here with a whole iPhone 17 and can't get a text back.
Starting point is 01:18:43 It's hot as fuck. He got her selling water. He's homeless on the corner. Come on, man. We're old lady. You know how he was able to do that. Who the word? Because he had to do that shit in person.
Starting point is 01:18:53 He couldn't call. on the phone. They probably would live... You understand how it's hot as fuck you don't convince her to come from under the bridge with you and feel water. That's a real connection.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Get you some rest tomorrow if we're getting some money. It's a real connection. Don't let these mufflers keep you up at night. That's right. But don't make me feel bad because I'm single.
Starting point is 01:19:15 You should feel bad. Why? That's the choice, right? Yeah, here, yeah. Okay. I mean, well, it's all the kind. You got to get some of them.
Starting point is 01:19:23 What's the start of kind of? We ain't gonna get on that. Stop trying to protect yourself. No, come on, tell me. I'll be nosy. That's what he's trying to delay it. Because he thinks like the longer you wait, the better it's gonna be, and ain't. Go on find you somebody and find out if you like that.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Get some practice in. So then when you meet the girl of your dreams, you'll have some experience, niggins. So this was your decision to do this? Yeah, yeah. I gotta wake up sometime, you know. listen to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this?
Starting point is 01:19:59 How is that not a story we all know? What's this? Where is that? Why is it wet? Boy, do we have a show for you? From Smartless Media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players comes Crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists. And me, Roy Scoval,
Starting point is 01:20:18 comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws. Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfishes a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think, she's a witch.
Starting point is 01:20:39 And it freaks you out. He has x-ray vision. How could I not follow him? Honestly, I got to follow him. He can see right through me. Listen to Crimless on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you can. get your podcast. For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside
Starting point is 01:21:01 others. I'm Mike Delarocha. This is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now? Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it. And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as people just breathe.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing you think, well, I'm going to get my guess. I don't want to go through all that. You've got to go through the wounds you're laughing. Listening to other people's near-death experiences, and it's all they say. In conclusion, love is the answer. Listen to sacred lessons as part of the Maikultura Podcast Network,
Starting point is 01:21:47 available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, Dr. Lori Santos from the Happiness Lab here. It's the season of giving, which is why my podcast is partnering with Give Directly, a nonprofit that provides people in extreme poverty with the cash they need. This year, we're taking part in the Pods Fight Poverty campaign. And it's not just the Happiness Lab. Some of my favorite podcasters are also taking part. Think Jay Shetty from On Purpose, Dan Harris from 10% Happier, and Dave Desteno from
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Starting point is 01:23:05 lab to donate. Hey, I'm Kelly. And some of you may know me as Laura Winslow. And I'm Telma, also known Aunt Rachel. If those names ring a bell, then you probably are familiar with the show that we were both on back in the 90s called Family Matters. Kelly and I have done a lot of things and played a lot of roles over the years, but both of us are just so proud to have been part of Family Matters. Did you know that we were one of the longest running sitcoms with the black cast? When we were making the show, there were so many moments filled the joy and laughter and cut up that I will never forget. Oh, girl, you got that right. The look that you all give me is so black. All black people know about the look. On each episode of Welcome to the Family,
Starting point is 01:23:47 we'll share personal reflections about making the show. Yeah, we'll even bring in part of the cast and some other special guests to join in the fun and spill some tea. Listen to Welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Radhi de Vluca and I am the host of a really good cry podcast. This week, I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the crappy childhood fairy, a creator, teacher, and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods. We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger
Starting point is 01:24:24 can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies. And Anna opens up about her own story, what helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in, and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now. So when I got attacked, it was very random. Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend.
Starting point is 01:24:45 And they broke my jaw on my teeth. I was unconscious. Then I woke up and I screamed. And I screamed because even though I didn't know who I was or where I was, something in me was just like, hold on, wait. They could kill me and I'm not going to let that happen. I'm not going to let that happen. I'm going to get through this.
Starting point is 01:25:01 And I did. Listen to a really good cry on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Would you like in women? Like what's the? I like smart country women I like women who you're gonna turn this to a dating show I like women who
Starting point is 01:25:19 I like women who damn it's like see, I don't need I want you to yes I do I want you to have your own but I want to be able to take care of you too I'm like your shit I want you to have a hustle but have ambition
Starting point is 01:25:32 yeah just like rely on me yeah don't rely on me but if she needed to she could Yeah. Okay. That's cool. All she needs to. Anything can happen in life.
Starting point is 01:25:43 If you needed to, she could have your back. Anything can happen in life. Love is certain. So it's great to have people that have ability if something was to happen. Absolutely. But just know as a man, if something happens, she's leaving. What? Come on, Carlos.
Starting point is 01:25:57 What the hell? Something happens, she's leaving, bro. Don't think she's thin. Not every woman is like that. 90% of them then. Like, look, if you got one- Well, why can't you lean on the 10%, nigger? Lain on the 10.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Just giving niggas out here, bro. It's harder than hitting the sentence. I'm just saying, like, you can't, you're not making these broad statements. These are, it's trauma. I'm projecting trauma. I'll let you have it. I'll project my trauma. Okay, I'll let you have that.
Starting point is 01:26:25 I'll tell you that. Well, we definitely don't need to get on that. If I got a pick of a woman in, I'm going to get on. Yes, it's me. Use me as an example. I'm the example. From here on now, I'm just talking about me. I'm not talking about us
Starting point is 01:26:39 I'm talking about me If something happened to me she's leaving Well if you had the type of woman that Wasn't a 10% You can say that to everything You say something happened to you what you mean now I'm just saying that something happened He's saying the woman's leaving
Starting point is 01:26:51 If anything major, niggas is one bad hair cut away from getting broke up Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I get She's fragile out here Wow All right But that's what I'm saying though Don't believe me
Starting point is 01:27:03 Miss a few hair cut You've had some experience That's what I'm saying though that's why she need to have her own shit. So I don't want no mad woman sticking around me that don't want me. Some niggas out here in relationship that's going to get left because they was musted. Well, that's a reason. One time.
Starting point is 01:27:20 No, not one time. One time. You got one time to be must be must. What's habitual? I'm not must at all. Everybody that knows me know I don't do that shit. But what's habitual? I want to know what's habitual.
Starting point is 01:27:30 It's like all the time you come around. That's what you're not smelling pleasant. I'm not saying you just came from a gym. and, you know, you just kind of always have a... Yeah, people just got through working out more than y'all and changing all shit like that. That's different. But when you just, all the time, when you put on your good clothes and you still have
Starting point is 01:27:48 your bad funk on? No, that's something, yeah. Now, you know in there and put the crease in your jeans and got damn put on your good button-up shirt. And you still smell like a crystal burger. That's... Yeah. And I think everyone that smokes, we have to be aware that we have smoked.
Starting point is 01:28:03 And we should do things to make sure we smell pleasant. Yeah. You know what I do? I make sure I stay around people who smoke weak. That way, you don't know. I stay away with them people who don't like Rifa. I know they don't like it. I'm a drug at it, baby.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Wait, it's not drunk to herb, okay? Y'all stay over there with your liquor. And I almost stay over there with my Rifa. Rifa. Yeah. It's a difference. It's a difference in Rifa. You got marijuana, you have Rifa.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Cannabis. You have weed. You have cannabis? Mm-hmm. I don't know. Is cannabis good? It is. I like it.
Starting point is 01:28:44 It tastes better. Okay. What is bullshit? That's that brown dirty. Yeah, but what do you call it? Bullshit. Just brick weed? Brick weed.
Starting point is 01:28:53 So what is... What's marijuana? What is marijuana? For white people smoke. Yeah, it is. I smoke reefer, like my granddad. Who smoked weed? Who smoked weed?
Starting point is 01:29:04 Who smoke weed? College kids. I thought they smoked pot. No, old niggins smoked pot, right? Prampi kid smoked pot. No? Old niggas smoke refo. Old niggas smoke refo.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Okay. Hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, hippies smoked pot. Y'all indica or a syliva? I haven't had no pot before. I smoke indica when I'm chilling. Now, when I go to L.A. or somewhere where I can get it from, I buy a bunch of sativa,
Starting point is 01:29:29 because I like to smoke that during the day or when we work in this shit. Mm-hmm. And indica when I'm chilling. Gotcha. But if, you know, So over hill, when we're here, you just got to grab what you can get. Gotcha. What's the best we need to write some songs to, Emica?
Starting point is 01:29:42 I like Indica, period. I think that, um, Indica take, you get the whole hive. You get the head, the body, you know. You think you could teach me how to write a song? Yeah, I think so. I think you know already. So Teva is the best to work with, though, right? I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I don't like it. No, because, in my opinion, it's too light I gotta smoke a lot of it I just want to like hit the joint put it down pick it back on it don't bring you down
Starting point is 01:30:13 that what you want you want to chill that's a teva kind of it's too I'm not high I don't know I want to know
Starting point is 01:30:20 that I'm high yeah it's a different kind of high I'm not smoking but habit I like to relax no I did yeah
Starting point is 01:30:26 indica all the way for me but I can teach you how to write a song what would you want to write the song about um it's a revian song but not like from what's kind of you call us i'm aries my i just want to you like the song concept is me telling me telling my side of the story okay you get what i'm saying and my whole defense is it ain't what it look like
Starting point is 01:31:01 It ain't what it looked like. It ain't what it looked like. Kind of giving me it wasn't me vibes. Not necessarily it wasn't me, but it's like, when you thought I was coming, I was really going. You see what I'm saying? All the things you thought I was doing was the shit I was trying to undo. You get what I'm saying? Got you.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Like I was leaving my old life. I get it. Nice. Nice. You go by that astrologist shit? No, um, except for Libras. You don't like Libra's? You don't focus?
Starting point is 01:31:37 What are you, first of all? I'm a Sagittarius. I'm a fire sign. Your birthday is coming up. Yep, December 17th. See, I'm a Scorpio. I like, y'all, y'all cool. I like everybody.
Starting point is 01:31:47 I like everybody. That's what you are. I feel like, you're a good person. I think I'm a pretty good person. I get along with everybody, and there are Libras that I get along with. Of course, I have Libre friends and stuff like that. But I think romantically, is air and fire
Starting point is 01:32:01 and you'll either have like a really sexy like candle flicker or a forest fire but eventually even if you start here you're gonna get to the forest fire ain't nothing wrong with a good forest fire sometimes you have
Starting point is 01:32:13 sometimes the forest burn up right and then that shit come back stronger I'm not around for the next time you don't let the grass come back you go on you get your you get your insurance playing to get the fuck on to burn the whole forest up,
Starting point is 01:32:31 why the fuck would I stick around after that? That's the finale. No, it's not. Oh, yes. Wait till you see what happened in season two? Oh, no. Did you know that there are orange trees that can grow out of here?
Starting point is 01:32:41 No, limited series, man. We're going to season two. We're in the citrus business. So, limited series. Man, if I'll fuck with you, I'm going to fuck with you about 15 times. Oh, no. That's my problem.
Starting point is 01:32:52 That's why I've been in this shit eight years. That's what I'm saying. Would you be thinking shit can change? Ah. You don't want it to. Oh. I'd be having Don't laugh at me in my fucking face
Starting point is 01:33:01 At least wait until your sister Get in the damn cough That'd be like that dick a hat hole No, no No, no I'm not laughing at you Bullshit Could a fool the hell out of me
Starting point is 01:33:12 Get my goddamn microphone up You're gonna laugh My damn face I'll go home for this man It's not like that He's just it was very sweet It was very sweet He's a sweet guy
Starting point is 01:33:24 He thought his grandma was walking around Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. That's hilarious. Boy, God bless yourself. Wait, to you find out. I won't find out. My grandma gone now.
Starting point is 01:33:41 God bless him. Whatever the day she lived us with, I think she got drunk with Mr. Pattern. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's just what I was left with.
Starting point is 01:33:54 All right. One did all. Oh, my God. Somebody give me some week. Hey, get in the comments if you ever. No, uh, don't get in the comment about my fucking grandma now because I'm gonna go, I'm gonna get on ya. I don't say nothing about your grandma.
Starting point is 01:34:05 If you let you know now, leave my grandma out of this shit. And I'm gonna find you and get on yours. Looking for everybody who ever got drunk and wandered off in the comments at this time stamp right now. Hashtag wandered off. That's named it. No, it can't be. Oh, yes. No, uh.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Oh, yes. That'd be a good song. Wonded off. You're going to let me know who you make it. I want to be on it. I want to talk a little shit on it. Take his clip and put it when Carlos said, he's like his groom on one and all.
Starting point is 01:34:38 That's it. Pop it off right now. That's it. That's going to have a cold-ass little line dance to go to it. Oh, yes. They got to play that in all the juke. Oh, yeah. Every way you get drunk all cheap.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Oh, man, I can't wait to hear that at the trail right. Oh, yes. We didn't got drunk and won't get on. We wandered off. Yes, I love somebody. She want to wander off. She'd get drunk and wandered off. Boy, they're going to be kicking hell out of them booths at that part.
Starting point is 01:35:10 And wandered off, that's when they're going to do the little kickstep. Oh, hell yeah. That's when you turn right there. And drop low and disappear. Oh, boy, I'm going to turn that one up. Somebody going to steal that. Oh, it's gone. It's gone.
Starting point is 01:35:25 It's already. And we ain't even put it out. She didn't got drunk and wanted to do it all. It's gone. Y'all got to go and put it together for somebody to take that bit. Yes, indeed. That's a hard.
Starting point is 01:35:36 That is. I see it. So what can they get the remixed, the remastered the 20-year edition of album? It's on all of the DSPs right now. But I would prefer to you buy hard copies. So if I'm coming to your city, I go into record stores because I love records.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Of course. Of course, I sign them. If you come in to any of the record stores that I'm going to. I sign them. And, yeah, you have a hard copy. Hard copy is hard cash, so I really like that much better. But they're on all the DSPs. And I think in, I don't know if it's December or January, we're going to put them online for the hard copies. Hydra Moses.com. It's hella merch there. I didn't wear none today, but I got a cute merch. So I'm going to go back some. We'll support some.
Starting point is 01:36:20 I would appreciate that. Thank you. You got our support. I appreciate that. No, we appreciate you coming through here, showing us so much love. I know it was such a good time. I feel like I'm going to drive the car for a little while for a couple of months. And then, like, after about a year, I think you're going to just be like, I... You love it so much? That's the spirit I feel.
Starting point is 01:36:45 How about when the success of wandered off? Yeah, but I think it should be before that. I already have it so by the time the success of Wondon off comes No, when Wondered off comes that's when you tell me that's you
Starting point is 01:37:03 And that makes it so special I might get the new one by then Okay That shit going It's three times Platinum right there It's single Sounds good
Starting point is 01:37:14 Independent Yeah She'll Wonded it off Wonded off Wonded off Monde had an appointment We're gonna dedicate it to your granny
Starting point is 01:37:24 to. Then in the video, we're going to have an old-ass lady doing the line dance. Well, now, see, my auntie had. I can see it. Now, Snoop going to be in there. It's going to be crazy. Everybody, it's going to be. I'm going to get all the line dance all stars on there. Even, might even get a verse from Big Boogie. He already seen it. He's going to be in the video. Okay. Off the top. All right. He already see it. Yeah, yeah. It's good stuff. I'm putting all the faces of entertainment. Definitely the making stuff I think of me. See, we got to do it at a bootlegger high because she didn't know about looking
Starting point is 01:37:54 from the store. Absolutely. Yeah. She used to keep the money in the hood. We're going to have you in there with some boots and a hat on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:03 I'm with that. I'd be wanting to learn all the dances anyway, so this will give me a reason until I wanted a little dances. We got to make up one to wander off. Yeah, but it's got to have a duck walk. I already know the girl
Starting point is 01:38:12 who's going to do it. Who's going to do it? You was talking about a little merch. We got you a little gift. Oh, wow. I love a gift. Thank you so much. Can I open it?
Starting point is 01:38:21 Absolutely. Why wouldn't you open it? I don't know. Just asking. Oh, this is very, very nice. Thank you very much. Absolutely. I got a hat.
Starting point is 01:38:31 You got you a hat? Bow. Absolutely. I love sweatshirts. And let me tell you something, I wear people merch. Anything anybody gives me, I wear it because. Are you going to love this? I love wearing merch.
Starting point is 01:38:43 I love, especially the color. I love navy blue. And, you know, traveling, you need a sweatshirt. Always. And I like the hat. So this is going to be my new grocery store hat. I always put a bucket hat on when I go to the grocery store. Oh, well.
Starting point is 01:38:56 And you from the South, so it only makes sense. It makes perfect sense. Dumb ear rings in that bucket hat giving you real AIDIS mind. It's it. It's working. It's working. All right. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:39:07 I love that. Like a boy, folks. This is one of my favorite guests here. Thank you. I'm enjoying my... I've definitely enjoyed myself. I feel like I won the lottery. I'm going to get a car.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Oh, hell. There she go. You're going to have to come back once a month and do episodes. Yeah, let's do it. Just to make sure that the car is safe. I think so. Where is the car currently? We'll discuss it.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Is it near me right now? It's close by. Okay, all right. Let them know where they can follow you at on social. You can follow me at Tidja Moses on all the socials, and you can go to Tidemoses.com, and you can buy you some merch, and you can get some new music,
Starting point is 01:39:52 and you can always come to the shows because we have such a great time. Carlos, you guys are going to come to a show? When are you doing one near? In Atlanta? I don't know. Not before the year's out, but next. Next one is in D.C.
Starting point is 01:40:07 So what you said we can see where the next one shows is? Teachermosis.com. You can get tickets and everything. And your Instagram? On Instagram, yeah. But it's easier to find everything on teachermosis.com.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Yep. We should go. And get some real close. seats and then when she started singing just starts screaming real loud like be male group is for sit right down the front make signs and shit throw me a jock drop strap this come to the meet and greet that'd be great you know Calvin Klein draws on stage I think be on your be on your video outside we love you jeezer why would they just it's then it's something's unique you know a job strap yeah that's memorable but I got to go buy one I'm not wearing it you don't have to
Starting point is 01:40:52 You're going to get whatever drawers I throw up there. I'm telling you. If you want some niggins throw some drawers, you've got to be some drawers that we wore. I'm telling me. No. We're throwing queen draws, though. I'm going to show up there.
Starting point is 01:41:05 You think they're going to free ball one for them. You think they're going to let me in here with an extra bad drawl? Yes. You're going to see a big. Oh, these can throw up there. Yeah, and you got to put a little note on them. You're going to put a note on them. You're going to see a nigga doing like this in the audience.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Oh man So did you get to the song The nigga like He didn't pull them Draws down One drop You gonna get real Freak that nigga
Starting point is 01:41:31 You're gonna cut the ass out of his dog Pull him on the estate Nigger that wrote his Instagram on the dick part Yes indeed
Starting point is 01:41:43 Yeah Whatever draws I want to the show That's what he's growing up I'm not purchasing One of those That'd be something like On tiny Ain't gonna draw
Starting point is 01:41:51 with the ass I read out. I'm sure they are. Them of the draws do well when you play sports and shit. I've never. You don't want to. You don't want to wear that. Your whole ass out. You know what I'm not doing it. So on Tiny Desk you have to leave something and if I would have had something like that
Starting point is 01:42:06 that's what I'd have left on the little Some droves. The jocks traps. That is a great story. You can't, it's not. Men, draws don't have the same effect as women. How are you going to tell me what has an effect on me? Think about the people coming next week when you leave.
Starting point is 01:42:21 You don't let dick print on the wall. No, no, it's a jockstrap where I would, you know, fold it nice and need it or hang it. I would hang it and then it would be like, who did that? I promise you to throw that shit away. Exactly. They're going to throw that shit away soon as you leave. They don't throw none of that stuff away. I see a lot of there right now.
Starting point is 01:42:40 I think that would have been memorable, but I missed my opportunity. It's okay. Oh, well, you should get some and start leaving them places. Not essential. But fan jockstrap? Yeah, like throw the drop, a brand new one, throw it up there, it's just memorable. What are you going to do with a brand new? I'm not going to do anything.
Starting point is 01:42:59 I probably will forget it, but the experience of having. You would be fine with that. So if you were at your show and they just started throwing jock straps up. Yeah, that would tickle me, not a bunch of them at one time because then that's a tag. That's followed. How many is a good amount? Like a random one coming up that, that would just make, like, that would be very, like. So what if people just random to throw them all that?
Starting point is 01:43:21 So you're trying to get your jockstrap through security and they'd be like, nope, we got 10 in already. Tend is dead. It's fit. Take all this shit back to the car. I think it sounds interesting. So that's why you got to get what we will. Have you ever had women throw you things on stage? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:37 What? It's never from women that you want to throw you shit. They're like ball them up at the meet and greet. Oh wow. How do you feel about that? I would like. Can I ask you a question? What?
Starting point is 01:43:47 Do you smell them? No. Hell. He's lying. No. Lod's lying like that. It ain't a man on this earth that's ever been handed some panties by a woman and he didn't smell them.
Starting point is 01:43:59 That's why she gave them. Because the people who gave them to them, I didn't want to smell them. The women who gave you some panties and you don't smell them, you felt all your forefathers. The women who smelled them, pain. The women who don't borrow them some panties at meat and greeting and put them in my pocket, I didn't want them in my pocket. I didn't want them in my pocket.
Starting point is 01:44:17 I didn't want them in my pocket. What was it? What was it? about them that didn't intrigue you see he got quiet they weren't my time he didn't smell every pair of pants yeah but i have a i have a physical type too yeah and what's that he can't pick them up yet the bigger the regular women no why he keeps saying he said he said he wanted to pick them up so that letting you know what they're little he'd been having trouble picking them up in the past I ain't and I can understand if you didn't want to smell them
Starting point is 01:44:48 Ben? Hey, it's not for everybody. Don't do what I do. Or a nice pack calvins. I'm older than you. I was here longer than you. Microfiber. Okay, I'll take that.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Don't fifth dollar drawn, ma'am. I get it. You're supposed to use me to be better. Don't do what I do. I'm from Mississippi. I ain't ever heard of that. We did. I mean, right.
Starting point is 01:45:11 That's the whole point. You never heard of it. That's the whole point. What? He's still before. Stop counseling him. He's too far gone. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:17 He is a lost cause. Okay. This is your first time stopping through here, but don't, don't, don't, don't, do not. Dirt. Dirt. Dirt. Let this be your last time. Matter of fact, now, since the first time is out the way, you can literally pull up whenever you want to.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Oh, that's so kind. I've been watching y'all for a long time. I love y'all show. For real? Now, that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I love it. I would like to dedicate this entire show to the black community and all the communities surrounding the black community.
Starting point is 01:46:03 Because I feel like they get left out a lot. All the communities surrounding. Gotcha. The backbone of the black community. It's the community surrounding. Absolutely. Exactly. Shout out to everybody who grow more wounded off.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I'm not the other one. You can't let that go. Nope. Your grandmother didn't wand off. My grandmother won her off. She knew exactly where she was headed. The wanderer. She wanted to go.
Starting point is 01:46:29 We used to have to go catch it before she had a heat stroke out there in that son. Oh, I wonder why. You know how they used to say? You can catch the bad out here in this heat. Well, there you have it, folks. If your grandma has ever wandered off or you yourself have ever wandered off, get in them comments and let Justin know he ain't the only one and this was a decision that was made by an adult.
Starting point is 01:46:53 Tidre Moses, much love. Thank you. J.O.N. Play me some pivot. Justin Whitehead, 85 South Show. We out of here. Magnificent. Magnificent. What? Great episode to everyone. job great job have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers who catfish is a city is it even safe to snort human remains is that the plot of footloose
Starting point is 01:47:29 i'm comedian rory scoville and i'm here to tell you josh dean and i have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals it's called crimeless a true crime comedy podcast Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. We were in the car, like a Rolling Stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened.
Starting point is 01:48:08 These are just a few of the moving and important stories on my life. 13th season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Whether it is getting swatted or just hateful messages online, there is a lot of harm and even just reading the comments. That's cybersecurity expert Camille Stewart Gloucester on the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. Every season is a chance to grow. And the Therapy for Black Girls podcast is here to walk with you. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford.
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