The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - The Big OG Bonecrusher | Ep.6

Episode Date: January 22, 2016

The legendary big OG talks about his new seafood mac and cheese business, his new music, and legendary stories from the A. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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85, hey. Welcome to 85 South. It's your man, Carlos Miller. It's your boy, D.C. on fly. And you are listening to 85 South, presented. by Comedyhype.com. Yes, it. Already.

Adamsville. This is. This is. You from Adamsville? Yes, sir, Marlutte King. Let's talk about it. Let's get it on Al-Aid. Man, I can roll.

Indeed. I'm from on Dartmouth, on the other side of Mar-Loodah King. Oh, you're from on the other side of Mar-Lood King. I'm over there by Harp Arch. Yeah, I know. Yes, sir. I went to school there.

Well, Harbourge. I went to Harper. You went to Harper. I went to carve a maize and krill. Oh, you went to the maze? Yes, uh. You went to the night school? No, I ain't go to that night school.

They just built that. I went to the old one. The old maize? Yes, uh. Old maize was, uh, we used to fight them. We thought there was some pretty boys. Yeah, but you know, I went to carve them. I went to carve them.

I went to carve. But, you know, it had a little rough. Got a little rough then. I got kicked out of maize. Everything changes, man. You know, I used to win the ban of the bar. You know, I got an old head went to harp. All my old head went to harp.

Ladies and gentlemen, what you're here right now. greet each other. Hell, y'all went to school over that boy, you play football, why? Hell yeah, what's up, fly? Man, what's happening, man? Man, we, see, we just in here chilling and kicking it because we're in the studio

today with the big O.G. But letting them phone know where they had, though. Man, we're on the 85 South show. So you know we had to keep it. We had to keep it at a time. And you already know what time in there, man. He had a lot of legend, man. I just, I just found out he was from my hood.

We about to go back and forth and show who really hard. Man, this is going to be one of the whole. He's going to crush my bones because he is where he is. Ladies and gentlemen, y'all know what time of there. Bone crusher. It's in the building.

In the building right now. Yes, sir. I was probably like nine when this song came out. You were not? I'm 23. Yeah, you were nine. Yes, sir. You were young fellow.

Yes, sir. That went, that when your curls were loose, then. Yeah, and I cut it down, man. Yes, sir. That's what's up, man. He became a grown man. So what's up, man. Talk to him, man.

Tell us what's happening. How you been, man? How you been? Man, I'm good, man. I'm happy to be here with you, gentlemen. New business? Yeah, man, I got the mac and cheese business, seafood mac and cheese business. I'm on Boom 1029, 975.

I've got a new album coming out with me and storytellers called Project 143. Yeah. Yeah. We've got some other TV endeavors that's about to happen, so we're working. Let's jump right into it. Tell me about the macaroni business. I need to. The macaroni business is really, it's flourishing, man.

You know, we sell it. We sell about eight, nine pans a week at about four. They're like $3, $400 a piece. Boom, and barking. I bring it in some. Because I get real loud. I don't have a deaf perception. Either I'm loud or I'm like this.

That's right, too. So what can us low-budget people get some mac and cheese? I'll bring y'all something. Okay. We'll bring y'all some. Man, yeah, he said those are the ranges. He'll work with your budget. I should just hollet him.

Thank you. Working with your budget. Bone, big bruck, I got you in here, man. We wanted to talk about the classic, man. Yeah. We got to. We got to. That one that put Tia on the map.

Yeah. Yes, it did. Put bone on the map. Take you. That was our favorite part. Yeah. What was the inspiration? At the time, man, we was trying to go against New York, so that was the inspiration to destroy them and take over the world.

Be heard. No, not to be heard. Take over the world. Take over the world. So guys like you could do this. You did. Yeah. And you think I don't appreciate it.

Yeah. Because I'm telling you, Bone, that's my soundtrack. You might not understand that that was my one. I used to skate. That way,

Cascade was like, had the first float before they remodeled it like five times. We were just being there going crazy. I was delivering pizza to it. They played that song like six times a night. Yeah.

Can you imagine the piece of man pull up in a 91 bubble Chevy with the bone crusher playing ain't turning nothing down. Disrespect was there. But then y'all sell the VH1 tapes. What you mean so? The video.

Then y'all had the video on the VH1 tapes. They're talking about the last day? No, the bone crusher, the, you're the song we're talking about right now. Oh, yeah, I mean, we had it on VH1. That was still working. BHS. Whatever. Yeah, not VH1.

I'm stupid. Oh, you got to keep it mind. We just got this nigga off the street like three months ago. Boom, he's famous, but he just got out of the street, bro. So sometimes he'd be, like, in two different places. I'd be working with him. And I get, I get points on my community service. VHs, bro.

You get points. You hear what he said. Bro, your video was on VH1. Like in the VCR. What? Yo, the VHs. Bro, I used to play that shit all the time. On VHS.

On VHS. That's dope. Yeah, it was on VHs. And listen to all the times, y'all. Yeah, it was on DVD. It wasn't on Blu-ray then. It was HD television. See, I see, flat.

This is the thing, this is my big homie. So a lot of people think you had one big song, and then that was just it. Like, you're still in the music business. People don't understand that. Like, catch us up. Oh, you know, I... Tell us about the new album.

The new album is called Project 143, which is a... The album that's between me and storytellers, a love story. How you doing storyteller? Oh, you've been talking about her the whole time. I'm doing good. Just to make storyteller in here. See, we didn't know you brought a treat.

You don't look high, but you must be. Man, I don't know where the hell I'm at. It's all good. It's all good. It's all good, man. That's why we here. I've been now. That's what he brings.

That's his element. I mean, at 23, man, you're doing better than I was, bro. Yeah. I was knocking niggins out at 23. For real. Yeah, Clinton. Let me see, God changed my life three years ago. I was doing that three years ago.

I told you he just got out of the streets. We just saved him. Yeah. Yeah, that's good, man. See what I'm saying? I'm shell-shock. You can't do that shit. You can't do that.

Say shell shot. Yes, sir. You can't do that. You can't cock the pistol. I'm going to hit the flow until everybody get down. So, Bonn, are you listening to any of the new stuff? No. I don't blame you.

I mean, I do. None of the old. I listen to, like, Kendrick and Jay Cole. I knew you're going to say that. They're lyrical brothers. I mean, it's not just a lyrical. I can understand what he's saying. So what rapper that you don't understand?

I'm from here. I'm from here, and I can't understand. these things they say right I mean it's just it is what it is it's just a different it's a different flow you know different flow I mean you know they start here and they go somewhere else hopefully they'll get to a place where they can be I get mad when people be like the old school

but that shit wasn't old like but I'm saying like when your music was out and we was you know what I mean when you was like you said taking over the world like like give me that give me that climate what was the feel to be like to be like to be real friends with a nigga like real friends with a killer Mike right and not that industry

Play, play, play. You know what I'm saying? Give me that, give us that clam it. I mean, we're still friends. That's just what I'm saying. It's just, you know, it's I mean, it's different. Like, it's like there was no music industry. Like, you guys don't understand that because

y'all grew up in it. Right. And, you know, at the time, man, I remember when there's no rap on radio at all Atlanta. If you want three, you know, if you want if you want, you weren't doing rap like L.L. Cool, Jay, and Will Smith, you weren't on the radio in Atlanta. Right. I mean, that might sound crazy, but it was not prevalent.

It wasn't available. So we were all friends because we had to be, and then we became real good friends, you know. We all used to hang together at Black Market, Bill John, myself, T.I., Killer Mike, Jagged Edge, Outcast, Goody Ma. These real 18-80s that you still see in the A doing their thing. They're real eight-time, all on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the only reason we were better than the new kids because we had to be. Right. We didn't have nothing to fall back on. Whereas, where y'all really can just walk through the door, it's almost like, you know, your parents is really, really rich.

Yeah. And you don't know what they're talking about. They'd be like, you know, when I was your age, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're showing up, Dad, go buy these Gucci sandals. But, you know, it's just that kind of mentality. I think that's what it is, you know. The kids are just benefiting from, and they're supposed to. But they're supposed to also have some kind of discipline

in some type of direction. fault really because we kind of turned our back on them a lot. So how do you feel about like artists come down here who'm not from Atlanta claiming Atlanta getting on, getting put on? Right. How do you feel about certain things like that?

I feel good about it. They're black. That's real. Thank you. That's probably like the most powerful. That's, see, that's why he him, though. That's why he boom crushing. That's it, man. Me think how I turned my hole. I was like, you know what? All right, get them niggas a clap, man. Give them a clap.

They're black, man. Let me tell you something. We as a people have to understand, I tell all you children, is that we don't have any lineage, which means that we have nothing to stand on as a people. And for me to say that someone coming, a brother coming from anywhere else,

trying to get on and me to say that they can't do that is asin and stupid because I have to, this is why we did it. We did it so you could do that. We did it so we could show. you, you know, like Outcast, you know, they show you that you could sell out a centennial park for a whole weekend, $60,000 plus every year. You know, and that's what it's about, you know, and for me to even show you, you know,

that I can travel the world and we sell out shows in Dubai. Exactly. In Russia and Africa and other places we go. But it's just, that's what it's about. And it's for you to benefit and for you to understand what it means. If you don't understand what that means, then it's, you need to. We have to put it in your heads And we have to beat it in your heads

And we have to tell you And that's basically what This album that we're doing is about We brought a bunch of brothers together To show, and females To show love and to give love to our people Right You know, me and storyteller

Let me ask you this You said a lot of people don't know the history Or pretty much respected Can you give them a crash course? I mean From then to now From then to now I can tell you a story

It's a long story I don't want to go that long I don't know how long we got to talk but Go We ain't doing shit Tell it Knowledge Knowledge wisdom

We can keep that knowledge I mean Well I can remember When me and Tip I used to bodyguard Nobody knows this But I used to bodyguard

For John Tip Jermaine Nellie Um A few others in the city Right And I would watch little John Make sure nobody wouldn't touch him

You know, because a lot of hoodniggas was after him Because, you know, John is John is John You know, he's a small guy, he ain't no buster But he's a little guy, you know, he gets to try a little dude For some reason, I don't know why. But I would watch his back And, you know, we would do music And I drew the So So Def logo for Jermaine

And it's a whole bunch of stuff, man It's just so much If I told you we'd be here for five hours Well, you're going to come back five times then We're going to get this whole story. I can tell you, story of why you need to understand what it's about. Right.

I can remember, I told this story, it's a story all the time. I can remember walking out of Ameritania right there on the corner Boulevard, right next to David Letterman, and he's not there anymore. David Letterman walking down to Manhattan down, downtown Manhattan. And I looked up, and it was a big billboard in Times Square of Little John, my poster over the Virgin Mega Store, which is there. and a picture of banner over the MTV building. And I looked, man, and it brought tears to my eyes.

I could remember when these fools just to call us Bama and bust us. And we ain't never going to win. And we ain't never going to do it. We ain't never going to get to nothing. Our music is whack. Our music ain't shit. So that's that part of it really brought me to tears, man.

And to walk into the foot locker right there, and a guy come up to me and say, hey, man, listen to my music, man. I said, okay, I'll check it out. Oh, shit, you bone crush her. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's happening? Damn, man, where are you from, man? I'm from Atlanta.

Now, he in New York. Right. He threw his head back. He threw his head all the way back. He said, Atlanta. I said, shit, nigger, we took over this motherfucker. Exactly. It's us.

We did it. And that's probably why a lot of guys around here upset. You know, a lot of guys, are mad because a lot of the kids don't respect it and they squander it and they don't realize that, you know, just because the BET Awards is here, we fought for that, you know, and it's good that Tip and Luda and John and myself and others can still represent for us. And it's good to see Future doing this thing. It's good to see two chains. Well, and the two chains with us, but it's good to see those guys, you know, getting sponsorships from Adelaide.

and Nike and other companies because at one point we didn't get those dollars we didn't get that you know and you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that exactly it's a lot of people like from the back in the day and now really Atlanta took over the game I mean Atlanta Atlanta let me tell you why Atlanta won because at at the point when Atlanta came into the scene it was New York versus LA right and they had a catastrophe in the depths of Biggie and Tupac. And they, people were looking for something else. They were looking for love, right?

And the love was Atlanta because Atlanta, we embraced everywhere. We embraced South, we embraced, you know, because we're here. And our music was non-offensive. Our music was party music. And it was just about having a good time. And at the time, everybody just wanted to have a good time. Right. You know, and there's nothing wrong with that.

And we stepped on in that plate. You know, it's just like how Jay took the baton from Biggie and ran with it and, you know, he's bigger than life now. Right. Just like now Atlanta's bigger than life because we grab the baton from New York and L.A. And we're still doing it.

Because it's not really, people don't want to really die when they go to the club. Right. You really don't want to go spend hundreds of dollars on an outfit and then go to the club and get shot. And get blood on it. Damn you got, get another nigga blood on.

Oh, shit. Another nigga blood. You all wet up. right you don't want to for real right that's another big difference in

between then and now it's like yeah yeah ain't no more fighting in the club it's shoot the whole club up everybody get shot

right but but tell them but tell them like the difference between how it is like you can you I know y'all made a lot more money back in the day on the independent

because because of the technology yeah technology put your input on how technology then kind of like took away a little bit from the music game before it's making money, why?

Yeah, technology is the same whether it's relevant to the time period. Right. You know, your technology right now is relevant to you because that's you're living in it. Whereas we were living in the ADAT, two-inch reel-to-reel analog board. You guys are living in a digital era

in social media, but it's no different because at one point my grandparents were looking at that board like, what is that? You know, they don't know what that is. So it's all relevant. It's just about your involvement in your craft. What are you going to do with your craft in order to make people want to buy it? It's a product like anything else.

Like how you paid money for that Adidas hat, that Atlanta hat and that Hawks hat, the same thing. It's no different. You have to invest in your product in order for you to get money out of it. Now, if you go in and do free music or free sounding, whatever it is, and expect top dollar, that's impossible. If I go in the studio and say, hey, no, no, no, that's not good. Go, go, go, go. When that shit coming out, bone crushing, that shit was hard. Oh, 10.

That's the fire. I was like, nigga, that's on the new shit. Nah, I like, no, I'm just, like that. That's not going to sell anything. Nobody's going to buy it. Nobody's going to want to buy that because it's readily available and nobody wants it. Big brother, let me ask you this. Like, with the digital age now, where you can put your, you can put your song that you and your brother recorded in the kitchen online and get 16 million views, right?

Yeah. You came up in a time where people actually handed it. the T-Ds out, person, person, person, and person. Yeah. Well, we still had a bootlecker. Right. We had the bootlecker. Whereas y'all have social media and you could just somebody grab your stuff and just

redo it and whatever. We had a bootlecker. It's all relevant. That's what you're saying. It's no different. It's evolution. It's just evolution. And the difference is we didn't have a plan B.

Whereas you guys have A, B, C, D. You got 1-7-9, you got V-103, you got social media. You got all the DJs here in Atlanta. biggest life. You've got drama. You've got, you got Canon, you got all these other DJs, as huge as death, and they're going to play your records. You've got the Coalition DJs. You've got the core DJs. You've got all these DJs. Leisure of Doom. Everybody that's going to play y'all music, they're going to give you that love

off top because you are from Atlanta. Do you see a lot of laziness in the game? Yes, of course. It's lazy. I mean, but it's not your fault. It is the fault of those that didn't raise you correctly. It is our fault. It's our fault that you're not the way you're supposed to be. See, we go back and forth on that a lot. I know this your first time on the show.

A lot of the younger dudes do feel like that they're OGs, you know what I mean, the people who came before them, they did get some money and go buy a big ass crib and kind of left them and didn't tell them shit. Right, right. They feel abandoned. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they should.

I mean, the thing about it is that I don't do that. I try to teach the young ones. I try to tell them what the, you know. I talk to a lot of rappers that you know a lot of times. things that they could do to make their career better. Learn from the mistakes of those before you because you're doomed to, you know, to repeat them if you don't. So it's just something that we have to work on as an industry,

as a people, as a family. Yeah. You know, we're all family here, you know, because we all the same culture. You got to understand something. Our ancestors are from Africa, from other countries, and we don't know our lineage, we don't know our people, so we have to stick together.

Let me ask you about people stealing the culture. Right. How you feel about it? Nobody steals the culture. If they black, praise me. That's what I learned today. No, no, no, nobody steals your culture. You're selling it.

It's all about how you sell it. Everybody sells themselves. The Jews, the Protestants, the Catholics, everybody sells themselves. They sell themselves correctly. Right. And they make a lot of money and they keep their money in their community. and they keep their money amongst themselves. And they don't, I don't, they don't, they don't, what's the word?

They don't try to, uh, no, they do compete, but they don't, they don't have a problem with your price when it's with them. You get what I'm saying? Like, if you come to me and you got a shirt, right? And I say, you say, boom, man, I got this shirt for 300. And I said, man, what's my price? They never do that. No, I feel you.

You understand what I'm saying? And you never do that to them. Why do you do that to yourselves? You never go to Gucci and ask them to give you a discount. You don't go to Louis Vuitton and ask them for a discount. You don't go to the Nike store and ask them for a discount. Why do you ask yourselves for a discount? Right.

Because you need to turn out of love yourself. It is Project 143 we're pushing. And that's what it's about. You have to learn to love yourself. That's what it is. That's crazy. 143. Project 143, Project I love you.

I feel bad because I have. You do? But see, that's why, though, that's why you bring the big homies around so you can be like, damn, I did kind of slip away from the principal. But what if you financed the cashier to ask you to give you the damn discount?

Did I win? No, for a lot. You did. But see, she won, too, because she looked down for you. That's what I'm saying. We all win. We won.

We all win. You got to win, man. But look, I got one question. Because I'm an inspiring artist myself. I got six. He dope. I got six minutes ago I've been working since 2000 I want to say 12 or 13 um so how did you feel I know you say when you when you went to the to New York and you see your billboards

and all that that's good because even when I I be rined I hear people listen to my music rhyme by I don't even know I'm in the car I'm that made me feel you know what I'm saying like oh shit that's a good feeling so how did you feel like when you first heard it like on the radio like what was your motive like what was your your focus on say okay now I know it's real This is the journey. We never, honestly, we, fly, I tell you, we never, we never celebrated because we was on a mission.

It's a war. What you're celebrating for? That's real. What the hell is we celebrating for? We ain't won yet. And we're still fighting. I ain't celebrating. You know what I'm celebrating for.

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In New York City. Can you imagine 90,000 people screaming your song? Hell no. I want to imagine that. You ain't even got to play the music, just letting them just sing it. He's singing it, you know. And it's a testament to not celebrating. Right.

I don't celebrate. I don't even get excited about none of this. I mean, I'm a Grammy nominated. I'm American Music Award nominated. and I won two, three source awards back when that was popping. You know, I've been on around the world three times. Right. I'm on my second passport.

Right. So I'm just, then you know, it's just, I'm still not happy. You can ask the story. I don't ever get excited about nothing. Why? What? We ain't won. We ain't won.

Do you own a skyscraper downtown Atlanta? Hell. Well, we haven't won. Not even parking space. We ain't even won yet. What the hell is we celebrating for? Man, I ain't bawling nothing. I don't ball.

I don't even ask for licking the VIP. I'm on a mission. I'm on a mission to make wealthy money. Whereas my children's children can spend it, and you should be on the same path. We should all be on that path. Man, fuck Gucci. Fuck him.

Fuck, Louis. I don't know this, Nick. You don't know them? You're making them rich. Fuck you mean. You're making them rich. I mean, you know, buy something for your lady. You know, women like nice stuff.

They do. But, you know, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, it's just, you know, My girl's going to hear that and she's going to be like, okay, you took the Gucci back, but nigger, I still want the Gucci. I'm like, oh, big bones said get you the Nike $20 flip-flop. And that's running. I mean, it's cool to have nice things.

I'll buy my lady nice things. So she bought me nice things. Oh, she bought you nice things. Yeah, of course. Of course. And I'll buy her nice things too. It's cool. But the thing about it that at the end of the day, we celebrate together.

That right. You know, we got to learn how to love our women. We've got to learn how to make our women respect themselves. Speak on it. We're listening to the OG talk right now. I last conversation, woo!

You're talking about the Gucci, bro. You want to hurry up in transition. Bon, come on with the Gucci. They've got to hurry up, get to something else. Right, right, right. We're right down to the show in the analytics. Yeah, we're mall right there. And it ain't even closed yet.

Let's hurry up and talk about the other stuff. What happened? Yeah, man, I mean, we got to make our women love each other. No, but it's a lot of young brothers who listen to the show. They look up, flat blew up on the internet. I was checking out your fans

over $200 million. Fuck you. I feel good with a legend say your shit. Over 200 million. So we really just soaking up game right now, man. Listen to, there's some lot of young brothers listening. Just give them some game real quick. How can you do that?

I mean, let me tell you something. I have children. I have daughters, right? Right. I won't do nothing that I want my daughters to do. That's the first thing. Right. I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to hold out my woman.

I'm not going to do something that's going to do. degrade her in any kind of way. Only love. I mean, honest love. I mean, you know, we'll argue. You know, we don't have real arguments because she's my friend. Right. You know, and at the day, you can't hurt your friend.

That sounded so damn nice because that's my friend. I need a friend. And where my friend at? Yeah. All that bat talk. Like, look, I need a friend. You ain't being my friend. You're not being my friend right now.

You're not being my friend right now. Them little kids, say, I ain't going to play. with you no more right right I mean I mean like early I mean it ain't really my business but you know everybody do what they do we heard a young lady talk about what she talked when he walked right you know and and I was just kind of like man what kind of man would allow his woman do such a thing it was his birthday though I don't give a shit what the day it is oh you know he should just want to spend time with her I guess they're tired each other I guess they tired each other I'm talking about they just do everything freaking

it's fun I mean I'm just I mean just really really I mean, you know, it's just something that I, you know, everybody have their own thing they do, you know, I'm not a judgmental person. Right. I just, I just know that, you know, I wouldn't allow my beautiful, beautiful friend to do anything that would degrade her and make her feel any kind of way where she has to compromise her womanhood. Sure.

Man, y'all better, y'all better pick these gems up. What do you're not going to let her do? No, man, let me take some. We men. And don't get it misconstrued. I'm a man I like freaky sex We got savages

See we savages I mean but at the end of the day I like freaky sex with my woman Right I don't want to be freaky sexing And there's too many diseases I think It's sexing with you Bone crusher

They got some shit out here now That turn your dick to a sweet potato I didn't I don't know if you know this But the doctor don't do that When you walk in the doctor Don't even treat you He just baked some marshmallows

They got that squash dick It's for eggplant for real Oh, good on that one It's good on that one Stop This shit looks like squash, man What happened to me? I don't know

You out here with the squash You are out here with the squash Casserol. That's wild, man Well, y'all crazy, man Yeah, I mean, but that's it though, man Like, we want to teach our children And you want to teach your lady

And she wants to teach you That's what you are You all should learn from each other Real talk How you feel about the miscommunication out here in these streets. We can't, you know what I mean? I'm not going to say we. I'm just, it's a lot of miscommunication

between men and women, especially black men and women. We've been at it for years. What about the lady that's so stuck on like they did the materialistic things, the non-working women. Hey, man, you know, that's what they've been, that's what they've been taught.

I mean, you can't get mad at someone for what they've been taught. And you just have to you just have to learn some new shit. I mean, you just have to love on them. Let me tell you something about anybody, you're human. If a person feels that you're genuinely, genuinely care about them and they genuinely like you, they will genuinely change.

That's if they genuinely like you. If they don't like you, then you're going to find somebody that they like. Everybody don't like each other. Some people just like money and some people like relationship and love. Everybody likes love. most people were hurt so they cut that off they said ah hell no it's my thing gonna hurt me no more damn show one of right who hurt you fly bone crushers here to help in that bitch in ninth grade

bro I brought bone crusher here to help us man we need it this hurt my damn fillet the day before she said I love you you the best man I ever had she said I'm thank God when you when you put God in it hits deeper it's supposed to hit deep I said but she she thought she said she thank God God for you. You feel what I'm saying?

Fuck her mama. Right. Fuck a friend who introduced this. She's like the man to bug. Right. You feel what I'm saying? And then the next day she'd say, I don't know we can do this no more. Really?

It was just one day. I told myself, I told myself, I raised my left hand. I said, I'd be down. If I let another bitch do this again. When you cry? You cry, bro? When you cry, nigga? How you were crying?

Nick, I went to the bathroom. Oh, my God. I asked my teachers could I go to the back? Because it was a test. It was at school. Everybody knows. It was at school. Yeah, everybody know me.

They're like, they're my real name, John. They're like, John, why are you quiet? You was quiet. I said, look, today ain't that day, brother. Today ain't that day. Today ain't that day. It ain't that day. I ain't in it right now.

You know, and I said, can I go to the bathroom? I went to the bathroom and I shed about four. Foteas. From both eyes, though? Or was it just happened again, bitch? That's what they meant. Never happened again, bitch. Oh, you had two from each eye?

Two from each eye. Both eyes. Both on. That's how you know he was hurt. He was crying out of both eyes. And he didn't even tell you the first part of the story. He just jumped right to the hurt. He jumped right to the pain.

It's straight to war of wars. And I was like, you know what? Never happened again, bitch. That was my motto. Yeah. You got that tattooed on you somewhere, don't you? No. No.

Don't know. That's cool. It's right there. N-H-A-B. Hey, but at end of day, man. You know. But you can't allow someone else's pain to hurt you. If you, if you stay in that with you,

that you'll never experience true happiness ever money is never going to make you happy ladies and gentlemen please trust me i've had and still have lots of it and it does hold up say that again because like anytime we say something cold we say it again because people don't be listening say it one more time i had and still have lots of it but it does not make you happy it actually makes you worse than you want if you're sad and you got money you'll be the saddest person ever ever ever i'm the happiest nigger i need to come in contact with that But what about the women that you encounter and you have sexual intercourses with and they have relationships? What?

They are in relationships. You'd be like, see, never happen again. Well, you're hanging with the cesspool of those that you can. And you become what you hang up. Yeah, I mean, but it's you're young. You're young, man, you're young, you know. You're 23. You shouldn't even be thinking about.

Why am I in love, right? Why do I even be in a relationship? because I'm young. That's what I'm talking about. You should build your, you should build up your... Storyteller looking at you, like she just want to hug you, just give you an auntie hug. Like, who hurt this baby?

I need it. She gave you that real concern look like. I need it. And I think my sister's all the same because they, that niggas ain't shit. We'd be chilling, playing 2K, talk about my son. See, you didn't talk, you brought all this love around. Now you got him talking about Christmas 86.

I ain't no love. I ain't no love. This therapy. I mean, it is. Bone crush. When are you going? You need to come out with some therapeutic show. I believe you can really help niggins out.

It was hurt. Hey, man, you know, we're doing that already. Me and Story is doing a... You got a nonprofit? No, we don't a nonprofit. But, you know, we're doing a... A lot of things in the community. Right now, I'm putting together a coalition

to put community centers in every neighborhood in America. Right. Keep that one going, John. That's real... We need that, man. We need to bring performing arts back to school. All the need to do. We need them to come to the hood

And bring some more community centers, all that And I'm gonna say this, man Because I'm a man in my word And you're from the same hood We just figured it out, man, you know Anything that you need, you know, promotional wise Or just to get the word out there You feel what I'm saying?

I'm down, you know what I'm saying? Indeed. Because I'm from exactly where you're from We're exchanging hood stories You know what I'm saying? So it's a much respect for my head You know where we do when we get a guest in here You're from the west side bone

Tell us one of the wildest stories you've seen on the west side of Atlanta. No, no, I'll never do that. We ain't talking about, we ain't talking about something that incriminate you. It's got to be the incriminating. We never, never that. Just a wild story from the wild. Just a story. We got stories from the wild, wild west.

All my stories is. Well, God, damn, Bo. Well, you are now watching. And here, 85 South. This is the 85 South. Hold up, before we out, before we, I got to ask you about this, man. Def Jam Vendetta. Yeah.

You're one of the hardest characters on there to be. Can you beat Bone Crusher? I don't even play video games. Bone Crusher whoop your ass so bad on them. And he keep hitting you with the attention! Attention! Ooh! And then he do like the Bone Crusher's shit.

It is crazy. I remember that guy. Bone Crusher was the... Bone Crusher and David Banner. And it was crazy because you and Banner was running heavy at that time. And it couldn't beat either one of you up. No. From Mississippi.

Tell me a good David Banner story before we get out. Don't want to incriminate himself, man. This is a music story for it. Because I remember you one of the first artists who I saw come out and embrace Bannon like that is, you know, like awesome dirty South shit. You know, me and Bano are good friends. Right. From back then, me and Banner used to go back and forth to Mississippi, sleep on each other's floors. Right.

And, you know, plan of what we was going to do. And it ain't much stories to tell besides the grind. The grind. We just kind of stayed on that. back and forth working taking I used to take Banner introduced him everybody in Atlanta

he introduced me to people down and where he's from and we would just work just work work work work work work work back and forth back and forth work back and forth work work work work and there wasn't on social media

so we weren't trying to glam it up right you know we were just trying to get to the to the life to the life that we wanted to be you know working to get you there I mean yeah yeah it's a school

we just working just working just trying to get it I love how it was been grand since day one. Like, yeah, from them awards. Let's get back to this music. You're fucking right. Yeah, let's get back to this grand. We got shit.

It's the same way what people say, man. How you feel about being a wildland? How do you feel about being three million fathers? I say, I'm going to tell you now, I'm a regular. I'm a regular person just like you. If I was to fall and bust my shit, I'm a nigga that's on the ground, bleeding. I'm going to need to call the ambulance. You know what I'm saying?

Three million followers can't help me. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, it's, I was popular before the Instagram. So it's like, I'm in it for the benefits and what I know I can do because I'm a hustler. I can take all the relationships and the things that I, the people who I meet, make relationships and just build and connect. I know what I can do with it and just the, it's the longevity. Like some people get in and be gone. It's like, no, I'm in it for the longevity.

You know what I'm saying? If you ever, if you never hear me say, bring that ass here boy again. Just know I'm behind the scenes that then came up with another slogan for another motherfucker. you didn't put him in the front holder you feel what you're saying so I'm good you feel what's supposed to be but you know it's all about work at the end and and by me doing what I did in the streets and bringing it over to the business side it's that same hustle right that same that's what I was getting ready to ask you though I know you got to go I try to get no no we could talk I'm already whatever with that oh okay so what what advice

would you give a young cat on the ground that's trying to maybe in a DC young flat situation trying to transition from the street street life to something else like you made, I saw you just come out you hit them with the, you started a business just right in front of us so like what advice would you give? I mean I'm talking to like the real niggins because you know how to speak to

us. Right, right, right, right. I mean treat it like you paying your mortgage. They ain't got one yet. Yeah, I mean, but treat it like you got to eat off of it. Right. I mean, it's not a game. It's not no, this ain't no, oh, we don't play, play with this, this is how I eat.

It's how I feed my children. Right. At the day, you know, it ain't no, just put something out and just to put it out. You know, when I do, when we do anything, we take our time,

we take our time, we take our time. Right. Because you can never come back from go once you start. And the kids, y'all play with that because of social media, you just put something out there, hope it catch, if it catch,

Yeah. If it catches, it's cool. If it don't catch, you don't. And then it creates a stigma where you can't eat. And everybody thinks it's a game. Because they see you trial these gimmicks. And you're joking. You're joking. You're trying there in front of people. That makes absolutely no sense. Because people don't want to hear nothing about your theory. They just want to hear the reality of what it is. When you go into a store and you buy back to this Gucci and Nike thing, you go into Nike town. You don't go in there. And they say, well, you know, What we're going to do is we're going to make a sneaker with leather uppers, rubber bottoms, shoe strings. You say, okay, when is that going to happen? Well, maybe next week. At the while, you start thinking Nike is full of what? For shit. Exactly.

So when you're going to Nike, their presentation is already off the top. You go into Linux right over here, the Nike town right here, with the Nike swoosh. Before you even get in there, you're like, oh, this shit right here. We lost some money. Ooh, I want to be a part of that. You want to be a part of something that is successful. Right.

You cannot be successful, just gimmicking and just making things off the cuff. Just can't do it. You know, it just doesn't happen. And you got to stick to something. Just like he does the, fuck you mean. Right. He brings it. He keeps saying it over and over again.

He never stopped saying it. Because why? Because he believes it to be real. Right. That's his reality. People fuck with you because, and I'm cussing because I really don't cussing on. I know. I know. That's what it is on 85 South Show.

They got real. Right, right, right, right. Told you to talk to him? Just talk to him. You're talking to a different demographic right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool, cool, whatever. But what I'm saying is that, like, you know, people mess with you because they believe that you believe. Right.

If you believe that you, if I'm messing with you, it's like a follower. People follow. It's a difference between leaders. and followers. In order to be a great leader, you must first be a great follower. Right. Right. In order to

understand the game, I have to make sure that you understand, and I'm serious. When I were going to a fight with somebody and I had some people with me, they got my back. You want to know why? Because I'm sledge hammering niggas. Wah! Ra! Niggas! Like, this nigga,

it's crazy! Checking my resume. But what I'm saying is that, listen, it's a situation where that's what people like. They believe young D.C. Young Fly. They believe you. They believe in it. They believe that you believe it.

So they are with you. People are generally, we are a gatherer people. We like to follow leaders. That's why we got a president. We follow the president. Why we have congressmen? We follow the congressmen. Right.

People follow things that are real. Right. Right. I can remember when people used to say, bottle water, shit, anybody going to buy that. Right. That's all. We drink it's a bottle of water now.

Want to know why? But somebody said, oh, we just keep pushing it. We believe it. A ball of water is what it's all about. Drink it. Drink it. And we're drinking it. Now you're drinking it.

Why? Because they believe it to be true. Yeah. Can't believe I fell for that shit. But you know one thing I learned to, one thing I learned to by being young. And you got to tell the young ones in the game because there's a lot of people out there that just, especially the young crowd. Because, you know, I'm 23, is a lot of young people who think they know it all. I mean, that's true.

But, see, but one thing I know about me and by me being from the streets is that I know how to listen and observe. Before I even open up my mouth, you wouldn't, before I even said, a fuck you mean, bring that ass here, but motherfuckler would be watching me because they be like, shout it too quiet. What is he doing? I'm scheming. I'm watching y'all. I'm watching y'all watch me. Right. You feel what I'm saying?

I'm watching y'all. I'm listening. Before I even open on my mouth, you won't even know what I'm funny. I'm sitting here. I got, I'm checking everybody out from head to toe. watching your move I got to feel you before I even open up my mouth because a person who talked too much

is you let somebody get up under you before you even, you don't even know it. I mean, you're smart. A lot of people aren't. They are not dumb. I mean, they're not stupid. They're ignorant, which means that you don't know what you could know.

Right. You know, it's just something that he, that he, I say he with them. It's something that they don't, they don't know that. Like someone taught you, some OG. your uncle, your dad, your mom, your auntie or somebody told you to shut your damn mouth

and listen. Because listeners, you can get everything if you listen. I do that a lot too. You just sit and listen. I just sit and listen to people. They'd be telling me everything I need to know. Yeah, you can't say nothing.

I'd be like, yeah, hey, yeah, that would be right. Right, right, right. Before you know, you get all the answers. All the answers. Yeah, and you don't have to say much. You know, just listen. That's what I do. I sit back and listen to people.

You know, and I've been in some great positions because I'm a listener. I was just in a great position today. We were around some very powerful people, too powerful people. I just had to be sitting there. And he's just talking. I'm just to listening.

Getting game. I ain't saying nothing. It's almost like I'm going to fly on the wall. Like I'm the paint. I'm just in there listening. Absorbing game. Right. You know, and that's what it's about, man.

You got to listen to people that know in order for you to know more. Exactly. But, Bon, what's your social media, bro? So the people can follow you and get you, The Real Bone Crusher and Storytellers is Storyteller S-T-O-R-R-T-O-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-E-R-R-R-E-R-R-E-R-R-E-R-M-R-E-R-R-E-R-R-M-E-N-R-W-N-E-R-W-N-W-N-W-N-W-N-W-N-W-N-W-N-W-N-W-N-E-L-W-N-W-N-H-T-T-W-H-T-T-T-W-E. I'm from Shy-Town. I'm from Shy-Town, I'm from Shy-H-Town, actually. I'm from Shy town in the building They ain't nothing to be played with

At all We don't know We don't know who she'd know up there I'm telling you I've been here since 98 though So I'm kind of You know Shy land of bread

Okay So tell us a little bit about the project 143 How did it come about? It was an accident actually Really? Yeah a lot of people don't know But Bone and I met

About a little over three years ago At MJQ at a show A mutual friend of ours Shout out to MJQ, man. That's one of those little Atlanta gyms. Oh, yeah. Heavy on the music scene, like an artsy scene. It's just got his own little scene down there, man.

I love MJQ. Yeah. So we actually met through a mutual friend who actually did some work with him. Right. And that next day, you know, he found out I was a writer because I moved here in 98. And that was, you know, when I got here, I was on the ground running. I was doing guy vocals for TLC. I was doing, you know, like scrubs.

I was doing vocals for Taylor Braxton. You wrote Scrub? No, no, no, no. Oh, I about saying, you did the reason why you're being called scrubs. No, no, no, no, no. No, but I worked with Red Zone and DARP and I did a lot of guy vocals. Yeah. I was just 18 when I moved here.

Jump right in. I jumped right in. I had been connected back and forth from Chicago and my management and I had a couple deals. I had a deal with LaFace. I didn't take. My father was an attorney. So he saved me from a lot of bad contracts. I'm glad he told you that because we saw the TLC movie.

You could have been riding in the Suzuki sidekick. In a C-Bring. You're right. But, you know, that's a really good thing because I'm really grateful that, you know, my tenure in the music business behind the scenes, I learned a lot from the old industry. Right. And now I can come, you know, with someone that's a legend in the game and really put out something that's much more powerful.

Right. Impact. And not be that one-hit one. or, you know, that bad contract to be under that type of, you know, bad label dealing, if you will, you know, the A&R, you know, I got all of that. And I got the experience of the culture here and, you know, even in Chicago. But actually, the next day I met, Bone, he called me and said, hey, I got an artist from New York. And he's leaving in the morning.

You come right a hook. So that next day, I went and I smashed the hook. So he said, well, what are you doing tomorrow? And I came back the next day. Let's do another record. So I came back the second day. We've been together every day since the first day I met him.

You know what? You know what, though? I hope that really people picked up on that. Yeah. You heard that flat? They was doing whole records in one day. Yeah. Not this whole six, eight weeks.

And then drop one. This dude don't feel like coming today. You know what I mean? Like work, progress. I dig it. So what do y'all do like when writers block? We don't really. Hey.

Oh, y'all don't got, we've done about 40 records for the album. Wow. The album has taken two years to do. Actually, we're a little over two years. We're not rushing it. I actually just was taking bone to the studio, and it was like, you got something for this? Yeah, I got something for this. What you got?

And what he wrote about was something that blended with what I was writing about, and the track was, and we all had this energy that was just truly organic. and after we did about 12 records and we realized Bone wasn't saying the N-word and he wasn't saying any cuss words, you know, we realized we had something that was bigger than what he had intentionally set out to do for a project for his next Bone Crusher album.

So we coupled it with the Project 143 because Bone is really, he buried Crusher on here. He ain't doing no attention. He ain't screaming. He ain't real laid back. This is some dancing with the stars type music. Oh, word. I can't wait.

Go get a lady, you know? Yeah, we love that. See, that's the whole thing, man. We got the West Side connection in here. Bone Crusher, D.C. Young Flack. DC Young Flack, Big Homer's Bone Crusher, man. Everybody's in the beach. And I appreciate my big homer coming through.

It's 85 South, man. And I appreciate it. It's the 85 South show. We got a new friend, storytelling. And I'm sorry for not knowing what was going on earlier. You'll find out when this album dropped. It's been swirling around. 85

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And you are listening to 85 South presented by Comedyhype.com Yes, it Already Adamsville Looking for my hood This is

You're from Alumsville Yes, sir, Malu de King Let's talk about it Let's get it on apps. Man, I can roll. Indeed. I'm from on Dartmouth Drive, on Vegas River. Oh, you're from, you from on the other side of my Luther King.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm over there by Harp Arch. Yeah, I know. Yes, uh. I went to school there. Well, Harbourge. I went to Harper. You went to Harper.

No, I went to Carver. No, I went to Carver. Oh, you went to the Maze and Crum. Oh, you went to the night school. No, I ain't go to that night school. They just built that. I went to the old one. The old maize?

Yes, uh. Old Maze was, uh, we used to fight, don't it. We thought they were some pretty boys. Yeah, but, you know, I went to carve him. I went to carve him for her, then I went to maid. But, you know, it had a little rough. Got a little rough, then I got to keep that. I got kicked out of maid.

Everything changes, man. You know, I used to go to the bandico, too. You know, I got an old head with a harp. All my old head went to harp. Ladies and gentlemen, what you're hearing right now? This is how two Atlanta guys greet each other. Hell, y'all went to school over there for a little bit. You played football, why?

Hell yeah. What's up, Fly? Man, what's happening, man? Man, we, see, we just in here chilling and kicking it because we're in the studio today with the big OG. But letting him for know what he had, though. Man, we're on the 85 South show. So you know we had to keep it.

We got to keep it at a time. And you already know what time of there, man. He had a lot of legend, man. I just, I just found out he was from my hood. We about to go back and forth and show who really hard. Man, this is going to be one of the hardest episodes. He's going to crush my bones because he is where he is. Ladies and gentlemen, y'all know what time there.

Bone crusher. It's in the building. In the building right now. Yes, sir. I'll probably like. Nine when this song came out. You were nine? I'm 23.

Yeah, you were nine. Yeah, you're a son. You was young fellow. Yes, sir. That was your curls were loose then. Yeah, I cut it down, man. Yes, sir. What's up, man?

He became a grown man. So what's up, man? Talk to him, man. Tell us what's happening. How you been, man? How you been, big, bro? Man, I'm good, man. I'm happy to be here with you gentlemen.

New business? Yeah, man. You know, I got the mac and cheese business. Seafood mac and cheese business. I'm on boom 102-9, 97-5. Got a new album coming out With me and Storyteller Called Project 143

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I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's jump right into it. Tell me about the macaroni business. The macaroni business is really, it's flourishing, man. You know, we sell it. We sell about eight, nine pans a week at about, they, they, they, He'd like three, four hundred dollars a piece. Boom it. Yeah.

Boom and barking. You might want to bring it in something. Because I get real loud. I don't have a deaf perception. Either I'm loud or I'm like this. That's right, too. So what can us, um, uh, low budget people get some mac and cheese?

I'll bring y'all something. Okay. He'll bring y'all some. Man, yeah, he said those are the ranges. He'll work with your budget. I should just hollet him. Thank you. Yeah, man.

Working with your budget. Bone, big bruck, I got you in here, man. We wanted to talk about the classic, man. Yeah. We got to. We got to. That one that put Tia on the map. Yeah.

Yes, it did. I'm from buying cat and now. Take you. That was our favorite part. Yeah. What was the inspiration? At the time, man, we was trying to go against New York, so that was the inspiration to destroy them and take over the world. Be heard.

No, not to be heard. Take over the world. Take over the world. So it's like you could do this. You did. Yeah. And you think I don't appreciate it. Yeah.

Because I'm telling you, Bone, that's my soundtrack. You might not understand that that was my one. I used to skate. That one Cascade had the first float before they remodeled it like five times. We used to be in there going crazy. I was delivering pizza to it. They played that song like six times a night. Yeah.

Can you imagine the piece of man pull up in a 91 bubble Chevy with the bone crusher playing? Ain't turning nothing down. Disrespect was there. But then y'all. y'all sell the VH1 tapes. What you mean so? The video. Then y'all had the video on the VH1 tapes.

They told me that, that ATL at last day? No, the bone crusher. You're the song we're talking about right now. Oh, yeah, I mean. We had it on VH1. So that was still working. BHS. Whatever.

Yeah, not VH1. I'm stupid. Oh, you got to keep it mind. Yeah, you got to work with him. We just got this nigga off the street like three months ago. Bone. He famous, but he jet got out of the street, bro.

So sometimes he'd be like in two different places I'd be working with him And I get points on my community service BHAs, bro. BHAs, bro. You get points. You hear what he said. Bro, your video was on V81.

Like on the VCR, what? Yo, the VHs. Bro, I used to play that shit all the time. On VHS. On the VHS tapes, bro. That's dope. Yeah, it was on VHs. And listen to it all the time, y'all.

Yeah, it was on DVD. It wasn't on Blu-ray then. It was HD television. See, flat, this is the thing, this is my big homie. See, a lot of people think you had one big song, and then that was just it. Like, you're still in the music business. People don't understand that. Like, catch us up.

Well, you know, I... Tell us about the new album. The new album is called Project 143, which is a, is a album that's between me and storytellers. How you doing storyteller? Oh, you been talking about her the whole time. I'm doing good. Just to make storyteller in here. See, we didn't know you brought a treat.

You don't look high, but you must be. Man, I don't know where the hell I'm at. It's all good. It's all good. It's all good, man. That's why we, he here. I've been there. That's what he brings.

That's an element. I mean, at 23, man, you're doing better than I was, bro. Yeah. I was knocking niggas out at 23. For real. Yeah, Clinton. Let me see, God changed my life three years ago. I was doing that three years ago.

I told you he just got off the street. We just saved him. Yeah. Yeah, that's good, man. Yeah, sir, see what I'm saying. I'm shell-shock. You can't do that shit. You can't do that, cat.

Say shell-shock. Yes, sir, you can't do that. You can't cock to Pils. I'm going to hit the flow. So, everybody gets down. Sabon, are you listening to any of the new stuff? No. I don't blame you.

I mean, I do. None of the old. I listen to, like, Kendrick and Jay Cole. I knew you're going to say that. Them lyric, they're lyrical brothers. I mean, it's not just a lyrical. I can understand what he's saying. So what rapper that you don't.

I'm from here, and I can't understand, none of these things are they say. Right. I mean, it is what it is. It's just a different. It's a different flow, you know. Different flow. I mean, you know, they start here and they go somewhere else.

Hopefully they'll get to a place where they can be. See, I get mad when people be like the old school, but that shit wasn't old. But I'm saying, like, when your music was out and we was, you know what I mean, when you was, like you said, taking over the world. Like, give me that climate. What was the feel to be like, to be real friends with a nigga, like, T-I. Real friends with a killer. mic and not that industry play play playing you know what i'm saying like yeah like give me that give us

that clam it i mean i mean we're still friends i mean that's just what i'm saying yeah i mean it's just you know it it's uh i mean it's different like it's like there was no music industry like you guys don't understand that because y'all grew up in it right and you know at the time man i remember when there when there's no no rap on radio at all Atlanta right if you want three you know if you want if you want you want you want you want doing rap like l l l cool jay and will smith you went on the radio that matter. Right. I mean, that might sound crazy, but it was

not prevalent. It wasn't available. So we were all friends because we had to be, and then we became real good friends, you know. We all used to hang together at Black Market. Yeah, John, myself, T.I. Killer Mike, Jagged Edge, outcast, goodie mob. These real

18, that you see, that you still see in the A doing their thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think the only reason we were better than the new kids because we had to be we didn't have nothing to fall back on whereas where y'all really can just walk

through the door it's almost like you know your parents is really really rich and you don't know what they're talking about they be like you know when I was your age blah blah blah you're showing up dad go buy these Gucci sandals but it's just that kind of mentality I think that's what it is you know the kids are just benefiting from and they're supposed to

but they're supposed to also have some kind of discipline in some type of direction and it's our fault really because we kind of turned out back on them a lot. So how do you feel about like artists come down here who's not from Atlanta claiming Atlanta getting on, getting put on?

How do you feel about certain things like that? I feel good about it. They're black. That's real. Thank you. That's probably like the most powerful this answer. See, that's why he him though. That's why he boom crushing. That's it, man. Me think how I turned my hole I was like, you know what?

All right, get them niggins a clap, man. Give them a clap. Yeah, they're black, man. Let me tell you something. We as a people have to understand, I tell all your children, is that we don't have any lineage, which means that we have nothing to stand on as a people.

And for me to say that someone coming, a brother coming from anywhere else, trying to get on and me to say that they can't do that is asin and stupid because I have, I have to, This is why we did it. We did it so you could do that. We did it so we could show you, you know, like Outcast, you know,

they show you that you could sell out a Centennial Park for a whole weekend, $60,000 plus every year. You know, and that's what it's about, you know, and for me to even show you, you know, that I can travel the world and we sell out shows in Dubai. Exactly. In Russia and Africa and other places we go. But that's what it's about.

And it's for you to benefit and for you to understand what. it means. If you don't understand what that means, then it's, you need to. We have to, we have to put it in your heads, and we have to beat it in your heads, and we have to tell you. And that's basically what this album that we're doing is about.

We brought a bunch of brothers together to show, and females, to show love, and to give love to our people. Right. You know, me and storyteller. Let me ask you this. You said a lot of people don't know the history or pretty much respected. Can you give them a crash course?

From then to now? From then and now. Help them. I can tell you a story. It's a long story. I don't want to go that long. I don't know how long we got to talk. We can't go.

We ain't doing shit. Tell it. Knowledge? Knowledge? Wisdom? We can keep that knowledge. I mean, well, I can remember when me and Tip, I used to bodyguard. Nobody knows this.

But I used to bodyguard for John, Tip, Jermaine, Nellie. Um, a few others in the city. Right. And, um, I would watch little John make sure nobody went touch him, you know, because a lot of hoodn niggas was after him because, you know, John is, John is, you know, he's a small guy. He ain't no buster, but he's a little guy, you know, he's a try little dude for some reason. I don't know why. But, um, I would watch his back and, you know, we would do music and I drew the so-so-deaf logo for Jermaine and it's a whole bunch of stuff, man. It's just so much, if I told you, we'd be here for five hours.

Well, you're going to come back five times then. Yeah, we're going to get this whole story. I can tell you a story of why you need to understand what it's about. Right. I can remember, I told this story, it's a story all the time. I can remember walking out of Ameritania right there on the corner Boulevard, right next to David Letterman, and he's not there anymore. David Letterman walking down to Manhattan down downtown Manhattan.

And I looked up, and it was a big billboard in Times Square of Little John, my poster over the Virgin mega store which is down there in New Orleans and a picture of banner over the MTV building and I looked man and it brought tears to my eyes I could remember when these foods to call us Bama and bust us and we ain't never going to win

and we ain't never going to do it we ain't never going to get to nothing our music is whack our music ain't shit so that's that part of it really brought me to tears man and to walk into the foot locker right there and a guy come up to me and say

hey man listen to my music man I said okay I check it out oh shit you bone crusher I said yeah yeah what's up damn man where you brought man from Atlanta now he in New York right he threw his head back he threw his head all the way back he said Atlanta I said shit nigger we took over this motherfucker

exactly it's us we did it and and and And that's probably why a lot of guys around here upset. You know, a lot of guys are mad because a lot of the kids don't respect it and they squander it and they don't realize that, you know, just because the BET Awards is here, we fought for that, you know. And it's good that Tip and Luda and John and myself and others can still represent for us.

And it's good to see Future doing this thing. It's good to see two change. went into two chains with us, but it's good to see those guys, you know, getting sponsorships from Adidas and Nike and other companies, because at one point we didn't get those dollars, we didn't get that, you know, and you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that. Exactly. It's a lot of people, like, from the back in the day, and now, really, Atlanta took over the game.

I mean, Atlanta, let me tell you why Atlanta won, because at the point when Atlanta came into the scene, It was New York versus L.A. Right. And they had a catastrophe in the deaths of Biggie and Tupac. And people were looking for something else. They were looking for love, right? And the love was Atlanta because Atlanta, we embraced everywhere.

We embraced South. We embraced, you know, because we're here. And our music was non-offensive. Our music was party music. And it was just about having a good time. And at the time, everybody just wanted to have a good time. And there's nothing wrong with that And we stepped on in that plate

You know, it's just like how Jay Took the baton from Biggie And ran with it and, you know, he's bigger than life now Right Just like now Atlanta's bigger than life Because we grab the baton from New York and L.A And we're still doing it Because it's not really, people don't want to

Really die when they go to the club Right You really don't want to go spend hundreds of dollars on an outfit And then go to club and get shot And get blood on it And you get another nigga blood Another nigga blood

You all wet up Right You're wet up for real Right That's another big difference Between then and now It's like Ain't no more fighting in the club

It's shoot the whole club up Everybody gets shot Right But tell them But tell them like the difference Between how it is Like you can You know y'all made a lot

More money back in the day On the independent ground Because of the technology Yeah Technology, put your input on how technology then kind of like took away a little bit from the music game before it's making money, why? Yeah, technology is the same whether

it's relevant to the time period. Right. You know, your technology right now is relevant to you because that's you're living in it. Whereas we were living in the ADAT, two-inch reel-to-reel analog board. You guys are living in a digital era in social media, but it's no different.

Because at one point, grandparents were looking at that boy like what is that you know right they don't know what that is so it's all relevant it's just about your involvement in your craft what are you going to do with your craft in order to make people want to buy it it's a product like anything else like how you how you pay money for that adidas hat that Atlanta hat and that hawks hat the same thing it's no different you have to invest in your product in order for you to get money out of it now if you go and do free music or free sounding whatever it is right and experience Expect top dollar, that's impossible.

If I go on the studio and just say, hell this is no, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. When that shit coming out, bone crushing, that shit was hard. Old ten. That's a fire. I was like, nigga, that's on the new shit? Nah, I like, no, I'm just on. That's not going to sell anything.

Nobody's going to buy it. Nobody's going to want to buy that because it's readily available and nobody wants it. Big brother, let me ask you this. Like, with the digital age now, where you can put your song that you and your brother recorded in the kitchen online and get 16 million views, right?

Yeah. You came up in a time where people actually handed a, handed CDs out person to person and person and person. Yeah. Well, we still had the bootlecker. Right.

We had the bootlecker. Whereas y'all have social media and you could just somebody grab your stuff and just riled and whatever. We had a bootlecker. It's all relevant. That's what you can say. It's no different.

It's evolution. It's just evolution. And the difference is we didn't have a plan B. Whereas you guys have A, B, C, D. You got 107-9, you got V-103, you got social media, you got all the DJs here in Atlanta that's biggest life. You've got drama. You got Canon.

You got all these other DJs. They're huge as death, and they're going to play y'all records. You've got the coalition DJs. You've got the core DJs. You've got all these DJs. Legion of Doom. Everybody that's going to play y'all music, they're going to give you that love off top because you are from Atlanta.

Do you see a lot of laziness in the game? Yeah, of course. It's lazy. I mean, but it's not your. your fault. It is the fault of those that didn't raise you correctly. It is our fault. It's our fault. It's our fault. It's our fault. See, we go back and forth on that

a lot. I know this your first time on the show. A lot of the younger dudes do feel like that they're OGs, you know what I mean, the people who came before them, they did get some money and go buy a big ass crib and kind of left them and didn't tell them shit. Right, right. They feel abandoned. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the thing about it is that I don't do that. I try to teach the young ones. I try to tell them what the, you know, I talk to a lot of rappers that you know

a lot of times, things that they could do to make their career better. Learn from the mistakes of those before you because you're doomed to, you know, to repeat them if you don't. So it's just something that we have to, we have to work on as an industry, as a people, as a family. Yeah. You know, we're all family here, you know, because we all the same culture. You got to understand something. Our ancestors are from Africa. uh from other other countries and we don't know our lineage we don't know our people so we have to stick together let me ask you about uh people stealing the culture right how you feel about it nobody steals the culture if they black praise me yeah that's what i learned today

no no no nobody nobody steals your culture you're selling it it's all about how you sell it everybody sells themselves the jews the the the uh protestants the catholics everybody sells themselves but but they sell themselves correctly. Right. And they make a lot of money and they keep their money in their community and they keep their money amongst themselves.

And they don't, they don't, I don't, they don't, what's the word? They don't try to, they do compete, but they don't have a problem with your price when it's with them. You get what I'm saying? Like, if you come to me

and you got a shirt, right? And I say, you say, boom, man I got this shirt for 300. And I said, man, what's my price? They never do that. No, I feel. You understand what I'm saying?

And you never do that to them. Why do you do that to yourselves? You never go to Gucci and ask them to give you a discount. You don't go to Louis Vuitton and ask them for a discount. You don't go to the Nike store and ask them for a discount. Why do you ask yourselves for a discount? Right. Because you need to turn out of love yourself.

It is Project 143 we're pushing. And that's what it's about. You have to learn to love yourself. That's what it is. That's crazy. 143. Project 143. project i love i feel i feel bad because i i have you do but see that's the that's why though

that's why you bring that's why you bring the big homies around so you can be like damn i i did kind of slip away from the principal at the cashier to actually give you the damn discount did i win no footlock you did but see she she won too because she looked down for you that's what i'm saying we all win yeah yeah yeah yeah we all win yeah you got to win but look i got one question um Because I'm an inspiring artist myself. I got six missed six. He don't, man. He don't.

I've been working since 2000. I want to say 12 or 13. So how did you feel? I know you say when you went to New York and you see your billboards and all that, that's good. Because even when I, I be rhymed, I hear people listen to my music, Ryan by. They don't even know I'm in the car. That makes me feel, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, shit.

So how did you feel like when you first heard it, like, on the radio? Like, what was your motive? Like, what was your focus on say, okay, now I know it's real. Like, this is the journey. We never, we never, honestly, we, fly, I tell you, we never, we never, we never celebrated because we was on a mission. It's a war. What's you're celebrating for?

That's real. The hell is we celebrating for? We ain't won yet. And we're still fighting. I ain't celebrating what I'm celebrating for. You know, nobody's celebrating me, please. You know, my thing is that I did summer jam three times in a row, and it's the same Summer Jam in New York

City. Can you imagine 90,000 people screaming your song? Hell no. I want to imagine. You didn't even got to play the music, just let them just sing it. He's singing it. You know, and it's a testament to not celebrating.

Right. I don't celebrate. I don't even get excited about none of this. I mean, I'm Grammy nominated. I'm American Music Award nominated and I won two, three source awards back when that was popping. You know, I've been on around the world three times. Right. I'm on my second passport.

Right. So I'm just letting you know, it's just, I'm still not happy. You can ask the story, I don't ever get excited about nothing. Why? What? We ain't won. We ain't won. Do you own a skyscraper downtown Atlanta? Hell. Well, we haven't won.

Not even Parkinson's. We ain't even won yet. The hell is we celebrating for? Man, I ain't bawling nothing. I don't ball. I don't even ask for licking the than a VIP. Right. I want a mission. I'm on a mission to make wealthy money. Whereas my children's children can spend it,

and you should be on the same path. We should all be on that path. Man, fuck Gucci. Fuck him. Fuck, Louis. Fuck, I don't know this, Nick. You don't know them? You're making them rich.

Fuck, you mean? You're making them rich. I mean, you know, you don't buy something for your lady. You know, women like nice stuff. They do. But, you know, at the end of the day, it's just, you know. My girl is going to hear that and she's going to be like, okay, you took the Gucci back,

but, nigger, I still want the Gucci. you. Like, oh, big bones to get you the Nike $20 flip flop

and that's running. Yeah, I mean, it's cool to have nice things and I buy my lady nice things. Right. So she bought me nice things.

Oh, she bought you nice things. Yeah, of course. Of course. And I'll buy her nice things too. Right.

It's cool. But the thing about it at the end of the day we celebrate together. That right. You know, we got to learn how to, we got to learn how to love

our women. We got to learn how to make our women respect themselves. Speak on it. We're listening to the OG talk right now. What, I last conversation.

Woo! You're talking about the Gucci, bro. You want to hurry up in transition. Bon, come on with the Gucci. We've got to hurry up, get something else. Right, right, right. We're right down to the analytics. Yeah, we're going to mall right there.

And it ain't even closed yet. Let's hurry up and talk about the other stuff. What happened? Yeah, man, I mean, we got to make our women love each other. No, but it's a lot of young brothers who listen to the show. They look up, flat blew up on the Internet. I was checking out your fans other day. all time. Over 200. Fuck you mean.

Fuck you. Oh, it'd feel good with a legend say your shit. Over 200 million. So we really just soaking up game right now, man. Listen to, there's some lot of young brothers listening. Just give them some game real quick. How can you do that? I mean,

let me tell you something. I have children. I have daughters, right? Right. I won't do nothing that I want my daughters to do. That's the first thing. Right. I'm not going to, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to hoe out my woman. I'm not going to do something that's going to degrade her in any kind of way. Right. Only love. I mean, honest love.

I mean, you know, we argue. You know, we don't have real arguments because he's my friend. Right. You know, and at the day, you can't hurt your friend. That sounded so damn nice because that's my friend. I need a friend. And where my friend at? Yeah.

All that bat talk. Like, look, I need a friend. You ain't being my friend. You're not being my friend right now. Them little kids, I ain't going to play with you no more. Right. Right. I mean, I mean, like early, I mean, it ain't really in my business, but, you know, everybody did what they do. We heard a young lady talk about what if she talked about it. Right. You know, and, and I was just kind of like, man, what kind of man would allow his woman to do such a thing?

It was his birthday, though. I don't give a shit. What is the day it is? Oh. You know, he should just want to spend time with her. I guess they're tired of each other. I guess they're tired of each other. I'm talking about they just do everything too. Freaky, it's fun. I mean, I'm just, I mean, just realistically. I mean, you know, it's just, it's just. I mean, it's just, it's just. something that I, you know, everybody have their own thing they do, you know, I'm not a judgmental person. Right. I just, I just

know that, you know, I wouldn't allow my beautiful, beautiful friend to do anything that would degrade her and make her feel any kind of way where she has to compromise her womanhood. Sure. Man, y'all better, you know, pick these gems up.

You're not going to let her do. You're not going to let her do. You're not going to do. And let me get, and don't get it misconstrued. I'm a man. I like freaky sex. We got savage. See, we're savages.

I mean, but at the end of the day, I like freaky sex with my woman. Right. I don't want to be freaky sexing with all. And there's too many diseases I live. It's sex with you. Bone crusher, they got some shit out here now that turn your dick to a sweet potato. I didn't, I don't know if you know this, but the doctor don't do that. When you walk in, the doctor don't even treat you.

He just baked some marshmallows in. They got that squash dick. Wow. It's for eggplant for real. Oh, good on that one. They're crazy, man. Stop. This shit looks like squash, man.

What happened to me? I don't know. You out here with the squash. You out here with the squash. With that squash cassero. That's wild, man. Well, y'all crazy, man. Yeah, I mean, but that's it, though, man.

Like, we want to teach our children, and you want to teach a lady. And she wants to teach you. That's what it is. Y'all should learn from each other. Real talk. How you feel about the miscommunication out here in these streets? We can't, you know what I mean? I'm not going to say we.

I'm just, it's a lot of miscommunication between men and women, especially black men and women. We've been at it for years. What about the lady that's so stuck on like they did the materialistic things, the non-working women. Hey, man, you know, that's what they've been, that's what they've been taught. I mean, you can't get mad at someone for what they've been taught. And you just have to, you just have to, you just have to learn some new shit.

I mean, you just have to love. on them. Let me tell you something about anybody, you're human. If a person feel that you're genuinely, genuinely care about them and they genuinely like you, they will genuinely change. That's if they genuinely like you. If they don't like you, then you go find somebody that they like. Everybody don't like each other. Some people just like money and some people like relationship and love. Everybody likes love. Most people will hurt. So they cut that off. They said, oh, hell, no, it's my thing going to hurt me no more. Damn show, one of them.

Right. Who hurt you, fly? Bone crushers here to help. Man, that bitch, in ninth grade. Bray, I brought bone crusher here to help us, man. Listen, bone, listen. We needed this. She hurt my damn feeling.

The day before she said, I love you, you're the best man I ever had. She said, I'm going to thank God. When you, when you put God in it, it hits deeper. It's supposed to hit deep. I said, but she said she thank God. God for you. You feel what I'm saying? Fuck her mama.

Right. Fuck a friend. who introduced this. She thanked the man the buff. Right. You feel what I'm saying? And then the next day she said, I don't know we can do this no more.

Really? It was just one day. I told myself, I told myself I raised my left hand, I said I'd be down. If I let another bitch do this again. When you cry? You cry, bro?

When you cry, nigga? Bro, how you were crying? Nick, I went to the bathroom. Oh, my God. I asked my teacher, could I go to the bag? Because it was a test. It was at school? It was at school?

It was at school? Yeah. Everybody know me. They like. They're my real name, John. They're like, John, why you quiet? You was quiet. I said, look, today ain't that day, brother.

Today ain't that day. Today ain't that day. It ain't that day. I ain't in it right now, you know, and I said, can I go to the bathroom? I went to the bathroom and I shed about four on. Four tears. From both eyes, though? Or was it just happened again, bitch?

That's what they meant. Never happened again, bitch. Oh, you had two from each eye? You was crying out both eyes. Both on. That's how you know he was hurt. He was crying. out of both eyes

and he didn't even tell you the first part of the story right to the hurt right to the pain it just straight to world wars and I was like you know what never happened again

bitch that was my motto yeah you got that tattooed on you somewhere don't you N-H-A-B don't know it's cool right there

N-H-A-B hey but at end of the day man you know but you can't allow someone else's pain to hurt you

if you if you stay in that with that you'll never experience true happiness ever Money is never going to make you happy Ladies and gentlemen

Please trust me I've had and still have lots of it And it does Hold up say that again Because like anytime we say something cold We say it again Because people don't be listening Say it one more time

I had and still have lots of it But it does not make you happy It actually makes you worse than you want If you're sad And you got money You'll be the saddest person ever Ever Ever I'm the happiest nigga

I need to come in contact with that paper But what about the women that you encounter and you have sexual intercourses with and they have relationships. What? They are in relationships. You'd be like, see, never happen again.

Well, you're hanging with the cesspool of those that you can... And I, and you become what you're hanging with. Yeah, I mean, but it's you're young. You're young, man, you're young, you know. You're 23. You shouldn't even think of me. Like, why am I in love, right? Why do I even be in a relationship? Because I'm young.

That's what I'm talking about. You should build your, you should build up your... Storyteller looking at you, like she just want to hug you, just give you an auntie hug, like, who hurt this baby? I need it. She gave you that real concern look like. I need it. And I think my sister's all the same, because they, that niggas ain't shit.

We'd be chilling, playing 2K, talk about my son. See, you didn't talk, you brought all this love around. You got him talking about Christmas 86, where he ain't no love. I ain't no love. This therapy. I mean, it is. Bone crush, when you go, you didn't come out with some therapeutic show? I believe you can really help niggins.

It was hurt. Hey, man, you know, we're doing that already. Me and Story is doing a... You got a nonprofit? No, we're a nonprofit. But, you know, we're doing a... A lot of things in the community. Right.

Right now, I'm putting together a coalition to put community centers in every neighborhood in America. Right. Get that one going, John. That's real. We need that, man. We need to bring performing arts back to school.

Yeah. And I'm... We need them to come to the hood and bring. Some more community centers, all that. And I'm going to say this, man, because I'm a man in my word, and we're from the same hood. We just figured it out, man. You know, anything that you need, you know, promotional wise

or just to get the word out there, you feel what I'm saying? I'm down, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm from exactly where you're from. We're over here exchanging hood stories. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. So it's a, it's much of respect for my head. You know where we do when we get a guest in here.

You're from the west side, bone. Tell us one of the wildest stories you're seeing on the west side. No, no, I'll never do that. We ain't talking about something that's an incrimination. He's got to be the incriminating. We never, never that. Just a wild story from the wild.

Just a story. We got stories from the wild wild wild west. All my stories is. But God damn, Bo. Well, you are now watching. Bone Crusher's seeing some stuff over there. 85 South. This is the 85 South.

Hold up. Before we out, before we, I got to ask you about this, man. Def Jam Vendetta. Yeah. You one of the hardest characters on there to beat. Can you beat Bone Crusher? I don't even play video games. Bone Crusher.

Bone Crusher whoop your ass so bad on them. And he keep hitting you with the attention! Attent John! Woo! And then he do like the bone crusher. It is crazy. I remember that guy. Bone crusher was the...

Bone crusher and David Banner. And it was crazy because you and Banner was running heavy at that time. And it couldn't beat either one of you. No. From Mississippi, tell me a good David Banner story before we get out. Don't want to incriminate himself, man. Stop. This is a music story for him.

Because I remember you want to... One of the first artists who I saw come out and embrace Bannon like that is, you know, like, awesome dirty South shit. You know, me and Bano are good friends. Right. From back then, me and Banner used to go back and forth to Mississippi, sleep on each other's floors. Right. And, you know, plan of what we was going to do. And it ain't much stories to tell besides the grind.

The grind. We just kind of stayed on that, back and forth, working, taking, I used to take Banner, introduce them everybody in Atlanta. He introduced me to people down and where he's from And we would just work Just work, work, work, work, work, work, work. Back and full, back in full, work, work, work, work. And there was no social media

So we weren't trying to glam it up Right You know, we were just trying to get to the To the life, to the life that we wanted to be. Yeah. Working to get you there. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool. We just working.

It's working, just trying to get it. I love how it's been grand since day one. Like, yeah, from them awards. Let's get back to this. music yeah let's get back to this gram we got man it's the same way what people say man how you feel about being a while now how you feel about three million followers I say

I'm gonna tell you now I'm I'm a regular I'm a regular person just like you if I was a fall and and bust my shit I'm a nigga that's on the ground bleeding I'm gonna need to call the ambulance you know what I'm saying three million followers can't help me you know what I'm saying it's like you know it's I was popular before

the Instagram so it's like I'm in it for the benefits and what I know I can do because I'm a hustler I can take in all the relationships and the things that I, the people who I meet, make relationships and just build and connect, I know what I can do with it and just, it's the longevity.

Like, some people get in and be gone. It's like, no, I'm in it for the longevity. You know what I'm saying? If you ever, if you never hear me say, bring that ass here boy again. Just know I'm behind the scenes that then came up with another slogan for another motherfucker. You didn't put him in the front holder.

You feel what you're supposed to do? So I'm good. You feel what I'm supposed to be. But you know, it's all about work at the end and by me doing what I did in the streets and bringing it over to the business side it's that same hustle right that same that's what I was getting ready to ask you though I know you got to go I try to get no no we could talk I'm already whatever with that oh okay so what what advice would you give a young cat on the ground that's trying to maybe in a DC young flat situation trying to transition from the street street life to something else like you mean I saw you just come out you hit them with the you started a business

It's just right in front of us. Right. What advice would you give? I mean, I'm talking to, like, the real niggins. I know because you know how to speak to us. Right, right, right, right. I mean, treat it like you paying your mortgage. They ain't got one yet.

Yeah. I mean, but treat it like you've got to eat off of it. Right. I mean, it's not a game. It's not no, this ain't no, oh, we don't play, play with this. This is how I eat. It's how I feed my children. Right.

At the day, you know, it ain't no, just put something out and just to put it out. you know when i do it when we do anything we take our time we take our time we take our time right because you can never come back from go once you start and and it and it and and the kids y'all play with that because of social media you just put something out there hope it catch if it catch yeah if it catches it's cool if it don't catch you don't and then it creates a stigma where you can't eat and everybody thinks it's a game. Because they see you try all these gimmicks. And you're joking.

You're joking. You trial and error in front of people. That makes absolutely no sense. Because people don't want to hear nothing about your theory. They just want to hear the reality of what it is. When you go into a store and you buy back to this Gucci and Nike thing, you go into Nike town, you don't go in there and they

say, well, you know, what we're going to do is we're going to make a sneaker with leather uppers, rubber bottoms, Shoe strings. You say, okay, when is that going to happen?

Well, maybe next week. After a while, you start thinking Nike is full of what? For shit? Exactly. So when you go on to Nike, their presentation is already off the top.

You go into Linux right over here, the Nike town right here, with the Nike swoosh. Before you even get in there, you're like, oh, this shit right here would cost some money. Ooh, I want to be a part of that. You want to be a part of something

that is successful. Right. You cannot be successful, just gimmicking and just making things off the cuff. Just can't do it. You know, it just doesn't happen. Just like with, and you got to stick to something. Just like he does the, fuck you mean. Right.

He brings that is here. He keeps saying it over and over again. He never stopped saying it because why? Because he believes it to be real. Right. That's his reality. People fuck with you because, and I'm cussing because I really don't cussing on. I know.

I know. All right, right. That's what it is on 85 South show. Got you got real. Right, right, right, right. Told you to talk to him? Just talk to him. You're talking to a different demographic right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool, cool, whatever. But what I'm saying is that, like, you know, people mess with you because they believe that you believe. Right. If you believe that you, if I'm messing with you, it's like a follower. People follow, it's a difference between leaders and followers. In order to be a great leader, you must first be a great follower. Right.

Right. in order to understand the game I have to make sure that you understand and I'm serious when I were going to a fight with somebody and I had some people with me they got my back and want to know why

because I'm sledge hammering niggas wah! Ra! Niggas! Like this nigga crusher is crazy! Check my resume. But what I'm saying is that listen, it's a situation where that's what people like. Right. They believe young DC Youngfly. They believe you. They believe

in it. They believe that you believe it. So they're with you. People are generally we are a gatherer people. We like to follow leaders. That's why we got a president. We follow the president. Why we have congressmen? We follow the congressman.

Right. People follow things that are real. Right. Right. I can remember when people used to say, bottle of water, shit, anybody going to buy that. Right. That's all we drink is bottle of water now. Want to know why? But somebody said, Oh, we just keep pushing it.

We believe it. A ball of water is what it's all about. Drink it. Drink it. We're drinking it. Now you're drinking it. Why? Because they believe it to be true.

That shit. Yeah. Can't believe I fell for that shit. But you know one thing I learned to, one thing I learned to by being young, and you got to tell the young ones in the game because there's a lot of people out there that just, especially the young crowd. Because I'm 23, there's a lot of young people who think they know it all.

I mean, that's just. But, see, but one thing I know about me and by me being from the streets is that I know how to listen and observe. Before I even open up my mouth, you wouldn't, but you, before I even said, the fuck you mean, bring that ass here, but motherfuckers would be watching me because they're like shout or too quiet. What is he doing? I'm scheming. I'm watching y'all. I'm watching y'all. Right.

You feel what I'm saying? I'm watching y'all. I'm listening. Before I even open on my mouth, you won't even know how funny. I'm sitting here. I got, I'm checking everybody out from head to toe watching your move. I got to feel you before I even open. on my mouth because a person who talked too much

is you let somebody get up under you before you even, you don't even know it. I mean, you're smart. A lot of people aren't. They are not dumb. I mean, they're not stupid. They're ignorant, which means that you don't know what you could know.

Right. You know, it's just something that he, that he, when I say he with them, it's something that they don't, they don't know that. Like someone taught you, some OG, your uncle, your dad, your mom, your auntie, somebody told you the shit.

your damn mouth and listen because listeners you can get everything if you listen I do that a lot too you just sit and listen I just sit and listen to people they'd be telling me

everything I need to know I'd say nothing I'd say nothing like yeah hey yeah that would be right right right right before you know you get all the answers all the answers

and you don't have to say much you know just just listen that's what I do I sit back and listen to people you know and I've been in some great positions

because I'm a listener I was just in a great position today we were around some very powerful people, too powerful people. I just had to be sitting there and he's just talking, I'm just so listening. Getting game for a little. I ain't said

nothing. Right. It's almost like I'm going to fly the wall, like I'm the paint. I'm just in there listening. Absorbing game. Right. You know, and that's what it's about, man. You got to listen to people that know in order for you to know more. Exactly. But Bone, what's your social media, bro, so the people can follow you

and get some more games. Oh, the real bone crusher and storytellers is storyteller. It's Storyteller, Project 143? You should talk to her. I mean, she's very, very good. Well, you know, this is my first intro. You know what I mean? No, my storyteller's a monster.

She's a great, it's a great spirit. She's a, a wonderful rapper and singer. What's she from? Where you from, Storytale? Shottown in the building? From Chicago, hold on, hold on. I just talked to it. But we appreciate, Bon.

Oh, no, I can keep talking about it. Yeah, but. I'm from Shatown, actually. Shatown in the building. They ain't anything to be played with. at all we don't know we don't know who she know up there I'm kidding I've been here since 98 though that's what I'm kind of you know shy Atlanta bread okay so tell us a little bit about the project 143 man I can't wait it come about it was an accident actually really

yeah a lot of people don't know but um uh bone and I met about a little over three years ago at uh MJQ at a show a mutual friend of ours shout out the MJQ yeah that's that's one of those little Atlanta gyms. Oh, yeah. Heavy on the music scene, like an artsy scene. It's just got his own little scene down there, man. I love MJQ. Yeah.

So we actually met through a mutual friend who actually did some work with him. Right. And that next day, you know, he found out I was a writer because I moved here in 98. And that was, you know, when I got here, I was on the ground running. I was doing guy vocals for TLC. I was doing, you know, like scrubs. I was doing vocals for T. Oh, what?

Bragston. You wrote scrub? No, no, no, no. Oh, I about saying, you're the reason why you're being called scrub. No, no, no, no, no. No, but I work with Red Zone and DARP, and I did a lot of guy vocals. Yeah. I was just 18 when I moved here.

And I jumped right in. I jumped right in. I had been connected back and forth from Chicago and my management, and I had a couple deals. I had a deal with LaFace. I didn't take. My father was an attorney, so he saved me from a lot of bad contracts. I'm glad he told you that.

we saw the TLC movie. You could have been riding in the Suzuki sidekick. In a seabring. You're right. But, you know, that's a really good thing because I'm really grateful that, you know, my tenure in the music business behind the scenes, I learned a lot from the old industry. Right. And now I can come, you know, with someone that's a legend in the game and really put out something

that's much more powerful. Right. Impact. And not be that one-hit wonder or, you know, that bad contract to be under that type of you know, a bad label dealing, if you will. You know, the A&R, and I got all of that. And I got the experience of the culture here and, you know, even in Chicago. But actually, the next day I met Bone, he called me and said, hey, I got an artist from New York.

And he's leaving in the morning. You come right a hook. So that next day, I went and I smashed the hook. So he said, well, what are you doing tomorrow? And I came back the next day. Let's do another record. So I came back the second day. we've been together every day

since the first day I met him you know what you know what though I hope that really people picked up on that you heard that flat they was doing whole records in one day yeah not this whole six eight weeks this dude don't feel like coming today

you know what I mean like work progress I dig it so what do y'all do like when writers block we don't really oh y'all don't got on bad writer's box no We've done about 40 records for the album. Wow.

The album has taken two years to do. Actually, we're a little over two years. We're not rushing it. I actually just was taking Bone to the studio, and it was like, you got something for this? Yeah, I got something for this. What you got? And what he wrote about was something that blended with what I was writing about,

and the track was, and we all had this synergy that was just truly organic. And after we did about 12 records, and we realized Bone wasn't saying the N-word, and he wasn't saying any cuss words, you know, we realized we had something that was bigger than what he had intentionally set out to do for a project for his next Bone Crusher album. So we coupled it with the Project 143

because Bone is really, he buried Crusher on here. He ain't doing no attention. He ain't screaming. He ain't real laid back. This is some dancing with the stars type music. Oh, word. I can't wait. Go get a lady.

Can I do a skit? Yeah, we love that. Well, see, that's the whole thing. man we got the west side connection in here bone crusher D.C. Youngflap, D.C. Young Flack. Big homie, bone crusher, man. Everybody's in the big. And I appreciate my big homer coming through. It's 85 Southman.

And I appreciate it. For 85 South show, we got a new friend, storytelling. And I'm sorry for not knowing what was going on earlier. You'll find out when this album dropped. It's been swirling around the industry. Everyone's waiting on the week. We're going to release the all-night record on Valentine's Day. whole album is about winning just love for our people

right you know just women embracing men and accepting their own faults and moving past loving themselves it's a really powerful totally clean universally well-round album yeah we've got Stevie Wonder

we got shipwere don't don't tell them we got some we got some big kids with it because I'm a lot posting on your boom did you see Stevie Wonder dabbing? How did he know how to dab? Somebody told me doing it.

Did he take your own and do this? Yeah. What? How did he know what this was? He didn't never see in? Do that on your own. Yeah. Yeah.

Man, I'm telling you. I ain't. And then walk Stevie through the dab. Hey, man. Bone, you know we're available on SoundCloud and iTunes right now. 85 South Show. And we want to, we want to thank you. Well, you're welcome, guys.

All of that. Project 14. three. I thank you. Bone crusher storyteller. The new bone crusher, man. The new,

this used to be the bone crusher that was knock your ass out. Now he's going to hug you and tell you. I love you. See your enemy

across the room. Wait to the first verse, bitch. I'm going to beat your ass. That is crazy. Hey, this song started something in the fights. It didn't start it.

The fight was started. This was just the soundtrack. By the time, by the time, T.I. came. I take your cookies. Ambulams was already coming.

coming in picking this niggas up all the flow man yeah this song was uh epic how you feel when you hear this now like does that beat do anything make you want to do a remix no no can you bless 85 soft with a remix no no he bone crusher said he go i do it in your behalf what he's attention that is it's me dc young fly with bone crusher nobody can do another because he You don't stop cursing and saying nigger, but I say it for him because I'm his little nigger, bitch. Whole fuck, Trit.

I hit you in your face is sucking. Girl. Stop. Got bars. I got bars, ho. Mini bars. Many bars. Those mini bars.

Hotel mini bars. Hold on. Don't make me right. You got a lot of colorful metaphors. Don't make me right. All kinds of beautiful. Who did the track? Dude named Avery Johnson.

Avery. You're going to say it like he ain't a big doubt. Well, Avery Johnson. Yeah. You still cool with Abe? Of course. Shout out the big Abe for making that track, man. Yeah, that's a cool Abe.

That's what's up, man. Thank you, Beck, bro. I mean, but look out for the album, Project 143 again, man. We got, you know, it's me and story, and the features are the participants in the album were Celo Green, music Soul Child. Celo. Yeah. Good people.

All of them, good people. Gip. Gip Goody. Man. Mutant. Man, friend. Stevie Wonder, Shalea. Who?

Ying Yang Twins. You got Yinyang on them? I sent you a song with them on it, actually. They whispered? You sent one? Yeah, it's called Hip-Bone. And I sent that and then we got, who else is on the album?

Sir DeBaptist is a gospel rapper from Chicago, Real Doe. Okay. Yeah, he's on Atlantic. He's just signed to it, Atlantic. Yeah. We're just working. We hope that, not hope, we are enforcing love on people.

because, you know, our children need it. Our people need it. Right. And, you know, oh, I forgot, we're going to have Jay-Z on the album, too. That's, yeah. Oh, shit. That is 85 South. You talk about Jay-Z. We got to go home. Hold on, man. I'm looking for a button to press.

I wish it was some sound effect, but we need a Jay-Z sounder. You got some money going in the bank or something? We need a sound effect. Thank you. Shit. As thing you shall receive. It's not dead. seriously it is serious boom this is huge you got a song

you got a song with j z i said it two times you got a song you got a song bone is who he is he is bigger than life man j z is j z is stevie wonder is fuck you mean right these are all legends though how we're going to out legend a legend we're talking about the dabbing stevie wonder though the dabber

the dabbing what if stevie wonder was in the studio with you one night boom and then he took his glasses off like Nick, I've been playing a little bit. Don't tell him. Don't fuck my truck. I'm putting them back down. Nick, I've been working a hustle 40 years.

Don't tell them shit. Put the glasses down. Right. What's so wrong with you, man? I know it, man. 85 South show. Shamea and Carlos Miller. It's your man.

You know who it is, man. All right, whatever. Fuck you, me. It's so wrong. 85. 805 85 855

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