The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - The People & The Police Ft. Tyler Chronicles & Pat Labat Hosted By Karlous Miller & DCYoungFly | 239

Episode Date: June 5, 2020

The revolution is here! Atlanta has been home to many civil rights leaders and their legacy lives on in the policy and political control that Black People have in the city and county. In an effort to ...better educate our people about the political process AND to ask the questions to police officials about why and how they operate, Karlous Miller and DC Young Fly sit down with Fulton County Sheriff hopeful Pat Labat. Pat is the former Chief of the City of Atlanta Department of Corrections, so he knows how a part of the system works and explores the problems and what we can do to impact change. Plus, Tyler Chronicles stops through for a revolutionary conversation about community, Black history and forward progress. Tyler also breaks down what happened with Clayton English during his arrest for protesting peacefully in Los Angeles. This that episode where DC gets really WOKE! ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿 Make sure you visit www.85southshow.com to find out when and where to vote in your city! Click the voting poll locator. If you haven't already, you can also find out more information on how to register to vote. #nojusticenopeace #85southshow #powertothepeople CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WITH DR. CLAUD ANDERSON: https://youtu.be/fW39KOf_f04 FOLLOW THE CREW KARLOUS MILLER - https://www.facebook.com/karlousm/ DCYOUNGFLY - https://www.facebook.com/DcYoungFly1/ CLAYTON ENGLISH - http://www.claytonenglish.com/ TYLER CHRONICLES - https://www.instagram.com/tylerchroni... JOE T. NEWMAN - http://www.ayoungplayer.com CHAD OUBRE - https://www.instagram.com/chadoubre/ LANCE CRAYTON - https://www.instagram.com/cat_corleone_/ J.O.N - https://www.instagram.com/heeeyj_o_n/ CRIAG GRAVES - https://www.instagram.com/craigshoots23/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:42 What's up, D.C.? Man, what's happening, man? So look here, man, we decided to use our platform to inform our viewers, our listeners on what's going on. Uh-huh. Voting is very important. It's very important. So we want to try to get some people some information so they can make an informed decision. You did.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah, man. So we would like to welcome Sheriff Hopeful, my man Pat LaVette. Yes, sir. He came to use our platform to get some information now so, you know, maybe he could hit a different demographic, a whole other audience. Kill the music. We're talking politics. Hey, yeah, this is real.
Starting point is 00:02:17 What's going on. Let's go through some of these, you know, some of these asterisk by you there. There you go. 30 years of service and public safety. So, absolutely. I'm from here, born and raised in Atlanta. Frederick Douglass High School, Clark Atlanta University. You know, no stranger to hard work.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I started working 11 at night to 7 in the morning at the jail and then going to school during the daytime. And over 20 years, worked my way up through the ranks. And in 2010, I was appointed chief. And we ran one of the most humane facilities in the country. Doesn't matter where you come from, care and custody and customer service is what we focused on. And so now it's time to do something.
Starting point is 00:02:58 different move to the next platform and figure out how we can have a seat at the table and change the dynamics of law enforcement 10 years as chief oversaw a 30 million dollar budget while serving on the mayor's executive team served as president of the Georgia chapter of national organization of black law enforcement executives what the hell is that so that's so that's noble right noble was established and and part of the mission is justice by action Right. And so you see some of the things, and it's more relevant to data than was when it was created 76 years ago. Right. And that is to give us a platform, right, in an environment that wasn't dominated by us and figure out how to train better, how to get better leadership, so that we can become chiefs of police, we can become sheriffs across the country in a field dominated not by us.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Right. Because we just need y'all on the other end, especially in judicial system, we ain't got too many of us. represent represent us you did what I'm saying and you and we got to really bridge the gap with just the community and the police now we're under I'm gonna tell you right now the war is not against the people in the police it's against the injustice and the people like you clearly see the George Floyd situation was literally just murder that's purpose like I've been apprehended for folk you dig what I know it is puts me a handcuff nigger I'm no danger to you you dig what I'm saying so when you you see stuff like that and then the civilians get rotted up like we got to even have that
Starting point is 00:04:32 force and feel protected from y'all you did what i'm saying so we know like our people are with us and behind us you dig what i'm saying but we don't have that that community right now well we've got to have a seat at the table right we got to have the right leadership and that was murder i don't care how you look at it including the three officers that stood by and did nothing right right and as long as we have a seat at the table we can begin to change the dynamic of what that looks like and that's why we have to focus on that because in every field of human endeavor we need somebody that looks like us so that we can really lead that right lead the conversation because they're not talking for us at all they
Starting point is 00:05:09 assuming what we like indoors soon because it's really beneficial to them well the piece is we have to create an environment that's beneficial to us right all right so I got four kids we got a blended family two girls 25 years old and two boys I cringe every time they they lead a house they're 21 years old right I cringe every time they leave the house because that could have been any one of them on the ground. Right. Let me ask you this. Where does so much of the aggression come from between the police and black people?
Starting point is 00:05:37 Like for you being in law enforcement so long away. What's the culture behind that? Like you have to pull a nigga over. You assume he got weed on them. You just target him. Well, it's not, I won't say it's about targeting as much as it's about the lack of training, the lack of communication, right? So we hear that a lot. training what does that mean so that means that and follow me with this so both
Starting point is 00:06:02 my boys are 21 right imagine if they can they can do the one thing that most people can't and that is they can go join the police force right follow me get trained be issued a weapon and be allowed to take someone's life right right now take a look at your partners right as I look at my son and I know that they're going to put him in the worst parts of Atlanta. They're going to put him 11 at night to 7 in the morning. So 2, 3 in the morning. Would you give a weapon to some of your friends and tell them to go patrol? No, you're talking. So, so we, that's, that's what training has to come in. We have to put them in high pressure situations so they know how to react. How does that
Starting point is 00:06:45 fall on the people, though, the lack of training for the police? Well, here's the piece, right? Here's the piece. Under President Obama, the one thing that he created was a 21st century policing platform. And the very first pillar in that platform talks about diversity, talks about being a part of the community. We talked earlier, if you police your own community, then you know the people there. Right. Right. And so I, and the best example I gave earlier today when I was talking with Ronnie Jordan is, again, I'm from here. Right. I'm hanging out on Beach or over near Cascade. I'm flying up the street. I just got my my license at 16. Please. police officer pulls up behind me you you know the feeling when them blue lights come on
Starting point is 00:07:26 right he walks up to the car and he said well where's the fire right no aggression he looks he said i know your mom take me to jail don't tell my mama but see i don't want none of that take me to jail but that's where we got to get back to we got to get back to people policing their own communities and in an environment where it's we're working together to make that happen it starts with conversations like this right how many people would come in here and have an honest conversation about this at at that level right it takes people for like you to get into a powerful enough position where you like who we got a nigga that's willing to listen to us you dig what I'm saying like ain't nobody do what you're
Starting point is 00:08:09 running for the what you running for sure share right there for folding okay ain't one me wrong you think what I'm what so we gotta make a change if we got to step into the system because they have a system we had to rewrite this system if niggins understand that they're trying to understand what they see right that's why they so misguise the system you can't see a system it's a system so if you that the table and i'm gonna be like man i'm gonna call my body back because i hey you're fair me it's just too much going on and we can make that phone call he's gonna be like hey dc you know your folks was a little rough i'm like you know what i take care of that but we need to come to a consensus but we got to have that
Starting point is 00:08:46 communication we got to have that communication that's what i was going to ask you like why is it important to you to become the sheriff at a moment like this at a moment is a pivotal time for us we can change the dynamics of law enforcement just by having these communication this communication I could ride off in a sunset let me be clear I got a good picture right no bones about it 30 years of hard work with the city of Atlanta Department of Corrections retired as chief and people are saying why are you this is my community right this my community and and I can't sit by on the sidelines and do nothing right we got to be have that voice because Because here's what, here's part of the problem.
Starting point is 00:09:21 We teach our kids and young men like yourself to ask why. Right. But then we get mad when you ask why. Talk your talk, OG. We gotta do better. Exactly. Because people just want to be heard. Now that's both internally and externally.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And what I mean is as chief, one of the first things I did at the city was sat down with all my team members, right? Ask whatever questions you want to ask. But what you're charged with is doing a better job than you did yesterday. and adding value to what we do. And so we have to figure out how to bridge that gap, just like you said. And as we start bridging that gap, we know better, right?
Starting point is 00:09:59 So we got to do better. And we have to figure that part out. Right. So this is my thing, though, is like, I feel like this is the people and the bullshit that comes between the people and the police, and the bullshit in the middle. It's like, we don't see videos of black police officers
Starting point is 00:10:13 accidentally shooting white people every day. So where is the lack of training? Are they just not training the white officers the same? I think the niggles know better. Well, here's the thing. Here's a thing. It's, I would submit to you it's less about that, but it's also about fear. It's about fear.
Starting point is 00:10:31 When you have a white police officer who doesn't, they arresting somebody that don't look like them, right? Or when we talked earlier about when they do arrest somebody like that looks like them, they're taking them to Burger King first. Right. Right. It's a level of fear. After you killed 23 nigg. It's nine, but I got you. The other one killed 23.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I'm talking about South Carolina, the guy with the burger. But there's more than one, go ahead. And what you're sad, right? I'm with you, that's real. That's real. But it's also about supervision. Right, right. And moving through that conversation so that we can, again,
Starting point is 00:11:08 train in the high-pressure situations and really begin to resolve the problem. Now here's the other thing, and I'm sorry, I mean, cut you off. Here's the other thing. I'd love for, and we talked about this early as well, I'd love for us, once I become sheriff, to have you all come sit in on what that training looks like.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Right? Right? Because then that gives you an opportunity to help us get better, right? Because it's real life and it's not just a practical exercise. Let me ask you a simple question. How many police officers does it take, to take a black man to jail?
Starting point is 00:11:43 That's not as simple as you would think, right? And I say that from the perspective of... One that's not resisting. Well, now, it shouldn't take any but one. Right. That's what I trained. That's what I trained. That's what I have trained. We got to tell them, don't resist. That's what I trained. But I'm saying, well, one that's not resisting. Well, are we talking specifically about George Floyd?
Starting point is 00:12:03 No, we're talking about a black man. Because every black man in this room has been pulled over, and a few have been unfortunate enough to have to take that ride. But it won't take six of them to do that. No, I agree. I agree. And shouldn't, right? But they use six. Well, it depends on who it is and where it is, right? Because oftentimes the facts show that they don't have six people available to do that, right? Because they're shorthanded, right?
Starting point is 00:12:29 But again, let's look at what happened in and throughout other parts of the country, right? Where you have people being put in paddy wagons alive and pulled out not so alive. Exactly. right but what we were able to do on the front end was uh take all our paddy wagons equip them with video equipment all right that was recording whether the van was on or not what's the purpose of having body cameras if they never turned out well again and i agree with it intentionally like me fuck dick i agree with you but here's the thing at the city of atlanta one thing that we did was control that environment so when you start running the
Starting point is 00:13:10 camera comes on when you pull out your weapon the camera comes on. See, you give, you, you remove the choice of turning it off. Okay, but they also had the choice before it was a gun. It was like mace and the stick, flashlights and shit like that. What made them,
Starting point is 00:13:27 in the taser, what made them jump over all that and grab the gun? Which time? Every time. Well, yeah. And I don't disagree with you. Right. It's an escalating use of force, right? They jump over all them options. But it also goes back to what I said earlier.
Starting point is 00:13:43 It's fear, right? But you're supposed to be secure, why are you scared of the civilians? Well, you shouldn't be in that field if you can. You got all the weapons. You got everything that need to control the situation. What are you scared of of a nigga that don't is? Why are you scared to me?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Again, again, we gotta keep in mind, right? And we're talking about most cases. Right. Where you have people that wanna go home at the end of the day. And that's how- him and try to go home no that's how we're trying right we train to mentally think I'm already scared right it's not about why it's about how we change it that change right
Starting point is 00:14:23 that change that change that change that this has been one of people's loudest arguments that we need more black people in law enforcement I agree do you agree with that I agree we definitely need I agree I agree as you look around so Atlanta's the exception let me be clear if you have a lot of black people right right but we need more more black folks in law enforcement make no bones about it all right it doesn't pay as well as people wanted to pay all right but we need people that have a seat at the table so we can do better beyond where we are does that make sense it does but i haven't seen any difference in the treatment between a black officer
Starting point is 00:14:59 and a white officer in most cases the white off the black officers would treat you word because they overpower it's like we we don't have enough we they like we sprinkled in through the judicial system Like, we sprinkled. It might be three niggas over here between a hong-up white people. He has his voice is, he had no power. He ran a hundred white people. He's fin to do exactly what them,
Starting point is 00:15:19 what the hongy's been to do, man. You digger what I'm saying? There's a lot of people that's not really with that shit, but they can't do nothing because it's a oath, it's a cold. These niggas ain't speaking up. They're like, I hear you, my nigga,
Starting point is 00:15:28 but just, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I'm with you. Like, that's how they got to talk during the protest. I'm with you. Niggin, you know, you're the law, nigga talk, nigga. The other piece, though, is what I'm hearing you say, and you're 3,000% correct.
Starting point is 00:15:41 We've got to change the culture. We've got to change the culture. And when we do that from internally, it'll get better. You've been in the culture. What is the culture? What's the culture of law enforcement? 30 years. Well, I mean, you brought up a great point, right?
Starting point is 00:15:56 Think about what you said. When you go to Cobb County, who don't go. Right? You see what I'm saying? Right. It's still what you said, right? It's sprinkled. And so the culture, it becomes one of individuals adapting to their surroundings.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Right. Right. Instead of standing up. Right. Until you can get to that point. So is it a negative environment inside the culture? Well, it's less about negative and more about survival sometimes. Keep in mind, right?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Keep in mind when the first eight Atlanta police officers couldn't even get dressed in the police precinct. right they had to go down to the butler street YMCA right so that culture had to begin to evolve yeah and they couldn't arrest white people first they couldn't arrest white folks you see what I'm saying so but again it's about evolving and the police told them niggas they couldn't arrest that's crazy that's my point and so when we change that systemically right we can create an environment on that and and let me give you a couple facts right under President Bush his last term all right the Department of Justice put out some information that
Starting point is 00:17:04 showed there were 12 to 13 interactions about maltreatment on police under President Obama. In his first term, there were 15. Under 45, our current president, there was one. So the question you have to ask yourself is who's policing the police? In this case, nobody. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So we gotta do a better job of policing the police internally. Why do the police police black people black communities and black neighborhoods differently than they do why i would tell you that it's just as much crime in the white community here's a question here's a lot of cocaine a lot of drugs a lot of pills they abusing all the prescription drugs so so we snitching no they don't mess we snitching no you can see in their face we ain't snitching it's a nigga it's a niggin right now let's take it from this perspective and i tell people this all the time right who calls the police on people Right.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Right. If police show up in your neighborhood, who called them? We don't know. There's always they got a call. They don't tell you who made the call. Well, here's my point, right? One thing we know is they didn't call because everybody's singing too loud in the choir. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:18:18 This is killing me. Talk your shit. How to hell? He opened. How can we all fit the same description? As black men, ain't no way we all fit the same description. Who is writing the fucking descriptions? And I don't disagree.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I fit the same description. I fit the same description. Black, who? I think all the thousand suspects. Nobody ever questioned the lady who putting the descriptions out. Pitchin don't need me, huh? Doesn't ever change. And we have the same issue, right?
Starting point is 00:18:46 Same issue. I mean, it is, it goes back to really high pressure situations and putting people in an environment where they revert back to their training. And at that point, we can create an environment that does better. It goes back to what I said earlier. We gotta be able to have conversations like this.
Starting point is 00:19:04 You gotta be able to really just communicate. Right. You feel like, but I like the lane you approach, but we also gotta educate people on black Wall Street. You feel me? And also give us a blueprint and saying that we can, where it's like, yeah, you're the, we should try to vote you to be sheriff of Atlanta, but we really want you to be sheriff of a community. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Where it's like, I, you know, you might know how to be the sheriff of Georgia the way we orchestrate this shit and really become a black power, successful entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:19:33 entrepreneur you feel me we can have a group of us where it's a list of us but we don't have to go vote we already know who we want now we got to go vote I mean we all got to go vote but we come up with our own plan we got to go no more but that's but that's that's and I don't disagree but I would tell you one we certainly always got to go vote right the other thing is that to your point this is just the beginning for many of us and and as long as we can have a conversation we can change the dynamic anytime we stop communicating It's like a bad marriage.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Right. Right. You stop communicating, then it's only going to get worse. But when is the system going to start listening? When I get to the top of it. That's what I was getting ready to ask you. It's like all these protests, they heard exactly what the fuck going on. Like, they heard, but I don't think, I don't be thinking that they're listening because the motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Just like how you said APD is, like we know APD got so many black police officers. Right. So if we take that initiative and understand the system, if we put our own body, black people if we want or even the people that of color want to do something, all of a sudden it just seemed like all the black people want to be police, they come to APD. And we have a whole gang of these people that just want to make a change and do that, we can start small. Like how you said, the first four, the first eight had to go down the screen to the WAFCA,
Starting point is 00:20:52 and now we don't took over. No, I agree. Let me ask you this, what did you do in your time? I think y'all can be telling niggas about that. What did you do in your time in law enforcement to change some of that culture? So let me tell you the one of the things I'm most proud of is we created the number one reentry program in the country. So we partnered with the State Department of Corrections. And I won't say most proud of because I got a couple programs.
Starting point is 00:21:16 We partnered with the State Department of Corrections if somebody looks like us, right? And it wasn't limited to race. Let me be clear. But it was limited to gender only because we got so many males arrested and incarcerated throughout the country. Well, you know, they changed the culture. Well, and this is part of changing the culture. So with 15 to 18 months left on this sentence, we became a certified transitional center. And one of the things that most incarcerated folks face coming out are challenges with being employed.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Right. Right. Right. So we led this conversation and had jobs while they were in prison. So instead of leaving with $25 in a bus ticket, you left with $20, $30,000 in the bank, right? you left with a job you left with a sense of dignity because I don't have to go back to where I was right and and in an environment where my future is much brighter right and so they still are city employees to this day damn they're gonna be going to get their credit right but that's not an unreal situation that's that's that's true six months over to get my credit right But those are the kinds of things that we had a vision enough to do. And the other thing is really put an interruption in this school to prison pipeline.
Starting point is 00:22:46 So every Thursday, we'd send our offices over to read with third grade students, right? I'm dyslexic. I make no bones about it, right? I leave out the, them, that, and change the whole connotation of a meaning, of a paragraph. to add support to those, especially it looked like us, that don't read well, right? Right. We close that gap. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And for me, over the years, it was about how do we close those gaps? We created a junior corrections program that, for me, I told them earlier, I graduated, thank you lauded from Douglas, right? I went through. Right? That's how we get through. But at that, at an opportunity, I had a chance to change some of that, we created of that we created a junior correction officer program and yes we took people
Starting point is 00:23:33 through the jail we took them through the courts we took them through the homeless shelters but we also took them to heartsville jackson right we also took them to charlie brown airport and so as you see those planes lift off you see their hopes lift off you see their vision get a little more clear that I can do anything that I want to do but we also took them to the morgue so this was about choices and so for me those are the top three things that we were able to do including feeding seniors every Tuesday and Thursday we've I mean Tuesday and Wednesday we fed over two to 300 senior citizens in the community so we were able to move and internally from a jail
Starting point is 00:24:08 perspective into our community sometimes morality has to be taught so people can understand like okay it's options to how I want to live for where I want to go right or just by me or what am I doing that helping my surroundings like with my people you feel what I'm reading a book that basically said fuck with people that's around you. Damn you. If you can't happen a thing that's around you, you're wasteful. You're wasting your power. You wasting your talent. You see what I'm saying? This is what I tell each and every one of my staff members and I continue to live by it. And it's exactly what you said. If anybody in this room haven't met me today cannot use me. That makes me
Starting point is 00:24:49 useless. Right. Now, I don't say abuse people, but if you can't use that person to your left into your right for good and have the resources like you said then that makes them useless exactly and you got to get rid of their day at weight right in order to continue to take off and lift and be that positive impulse influence like like we understand and and i understand the authority and i understand how y'all you know what's saying should be talked to what i'm like not just saying like in a proper manner i understand the the what's the word and i'm looking for the code when i'm talking to the You feel what I'm saying? I know y'all have authority.
Starting point is 00:25:27 So I'm not gonna come in y'all with aggression. Fuck you pull me off us out, even though I want to say that. Like, no, I'm, hey, how you know, I'll give you respect. How ya, how you doing? Niggas don't even, y'all think ain't even respecting, hey, how you doing, sir? Well, here's the thing. But we gotta change that. We got to change that.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Because it happens the other way around. It should be, yes, sir, no, sir. This is why I stopped you, sir. Right, y'all should be talking to let like there. You turn straight straight to his thing. Absolutely, sir. In order, in order to, in order to get for sure. In order to get respect, you got to give respect.
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Starting point is 00:29:14 Even when I do, like, community, like, service stuff, I want y'all to be a part of the community stuff, too. Like, even when the COVID shit happened, right? Like, I couldn't call, I know the mayor, but like I couldn't call her. Or if I had your number, I was like, but Mr. LeBatt, I'm gonna push up. I know this is unannounced, but how do I go by the right way? Just so nobody who worked in enforcement come
Starting point is 00:29:35 try to tag down or think we're doing something. I'm only feeding the community. Now, if I had your support or somebody that was there on your behalf who understand, boom, oh, what going on? Oh, Mr. LeBatt sent me. What cat, damn it, Mrs. LeBatt, I'm up with you.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Y'all posed it. So if anybody here, y'all are protecting the community, because we're here for a good call. I'm here only feed my community. That's all I don't know, cause COVID shit that went crazy, these folks fin to go crazy. So I came over the plan to just say,
Starting point is 00:29:57 you know what, I'm gonna feed my community so they could calm down so they know that somebody got their support. Now, I only do, y'all got somebody support, look at the police officers. They're not here tripping on y'all. They're here making sure they're who safe.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Y'all need safe. They ain't staying y'all, they know what y'all here for, but they're here to make sure y'all say, we don't have that connection, period, we don't have that connection. I would tell you we take it a step further. You make a phone call like that,
Starting point is 00:30:20 then I need to know how to support you in that effort. So not just standing around. Right. We need to get involved. Right. We need to get involved. So I look forward to that opportunity. Fucking right.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And let's make it happen. We got to get folks to vote. Oh, shit. Mithin LeBatt. Come on. Missing LeBatt. You got to vote. What?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Mr. LeBatt. That's what I was saying. Before we get you out of here, I don't know if you want to take a few minutes to speak on some of the some of the platform that you're running on. Some of the changes that you bring to the table. why we need you as I share so again first let me say thank you right it's an amazing platform I appreciate what you all are doing to really increase the
Starting point is 00:31:00 conversation for me it's about a way of life of changing what our law enforcement looks like from the inside out we can do that and then become a part of the community so a couple of things as you start you talked about in terms of the platform right we got to improve our jail conditions all right just because a person has been arrested doesn't mean they need to be treated inhumanely. Exactly. You look at the South Fulton annex, houses women. They're under a federal lawsuit or going through a federal lawsuit now because you got women out there that hadn't had a shower in a month or two. Right. You got to care. You got to care about how you treat
Starting point is 00:31:42 people. Our job is caring custody. If you want to judge somebody, you need to go down the street Georgia State Law School, get your law degree, put a black robe on, and become a judge, right? Our job is caring custody. How do we focus on that? We focus on that through customer service, right? We got to do a better job of serving warrants, right? We got so many brothers out here with warrants that we know have done bad things. Circle around domestic violence, right? If you've had, if you've ever been in a situation with your mom or your sister has been vulnerable in that, that in that space. We've got to do a better job of protecting our community, just like you said. And so we have to focus on those things, but we have to do it in our communities.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Is there anything in your plan for nonviolent offenders? Nonviolent offenders. That reform comes up a lot also. And nonviolent offenders is a little easier issue for me, and I say it like that because I helped Mayor Biden spearhead the cash bail reform piece. All right? We talked earlier and we say the time and I grew up in a system that was the exact opposite let me be clear but you shouldn't just be in jail because you're poor right right you should be afforded an opportunity to justice and adequate representation throughout and so that part of bail reform for us is is the easier part you know there's some
Starting point is 00:33:07 sheriff's office you know you get processed in and you come on out for misdemeanors right and what that looked like now a signature bomb the signature bomb absolutely absolutely and but But let me say, just because I'm law enforcement doesn't give anybody in this room or other places the right to run rampant, right? Right, again, a great example. When I became chief, we were so oppressed
Starting point is 00:33:31 as a department, I had the union tell them that we expected to have a revolution. Well, what's that mean? You don't come to work on time? What's that mean? No, just because I'm black and I'm in charge does not give anybody the authority to break the law. Yeah, no, what's what you said?
Starting point is 00:33:46 don't go crazy and call you well no no you can still call me oh yeah I'm gonna call you come and I'm gonna tell you know what I'm so glad they did their job but I'm on my way to see come I'm gonna come see so I say that to say look we we have a unique opportunity right and and even more so because there's no Republican opposition running for sheriff which means we can start the conversation in late August about how we how you are as a group want to have part of the sheriff's office what it looks like right then I'll have my own thoughts and how we move forward and then how we begin that conversation because can you
Starting point is 00:34:30 imagine the platform of us working together to feed people to educate people right to keep people out of jail so you know them people that have 40-counted car house that's in the brown too they they sheriff that's the sheriff that's the sheriff but the niggins like what is y'all position could the police be like y'all niggins be just like man i ain't doing god damn you just you have no idea how powerful the sheriff is so i know but i'm gonna be chilling well but to your point i mean you bring up an excellent point right we gotta change the dynamics of what that looks like right when you walk in and well first of all you'll be coming to see me i don't mean from a perspective of me coming to see you right right right right right right you'll be
Starting point is 00:35:16 But when you walk in, the professionalism and the courtesy goes along with it, we have to change that dynamic for it to be a positive experience. Because you're absolutely right. The fact that you recognize that they're sheriff deputies down there that aren't as professional as they should be. Very disrespectful. Right. Right. You need to go back through that metal detain, little boy. We're going to change that. We'll change that. We'll change that. But that's not just for you. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:35:50 That's for everybody. Right. And there's no problem with saying, yes ma'am, no ma'am, yes, sir, you know, no sir, we have to change the culture. And I am a firm believer that starts with us. It is. That starts with us on this side, right? Because what you'll never be able to say about me is I, no little boy is out of here.
Starting point is 00:36:08 It's, sir, sir, can we get you to go back to the metal detective, right? Sir, you know, and I get to a point, and this is what really over my career, this is what this level of law enforcement has talked I would say listen I apologize maybe you didn't hear me but I'm gonna need you go back through that metal sex right see it makes us even want to do it again because we're like you know what I maybe I did fuck up we'll make that it's all good man we appreciate you mr. LeBette we appreciate you coming through I appreciate you I appreciate you I appreciate you yeah I'm trying to stay married y'all not gonna trick me now why you better be in front of Zoom me
Starting point is 00:36:46 Much look to you. I appreciate it, brother. See you in the future. Hold on, hold on, you ain't telling me when to go vote, shit now. They're going to be in the comment, like, what happened? All right, so. Yeah, hold on, sit down. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:58 All right, so June 9th is Election Day. And so the county will have over 100 precincts open. You can pull it up on my website, Labat for Sheriff, tell you exactly where to go vote. All my social media is Labat for Sheriff. If you vote before Friday, there's six locations. The closest one being Adamsville. the CT Martin Reck Center, and you can go in,
Starting point is 00:37:20 they've done a better job, gotten more machines so people can get in and out, but we gotta go vote. We gotta go vote. And so if you haven't voted in the primary, you haven't voted earlier in March, you'll have an opportunity to vote for president as well. And so that is how we change this conversation. Well, we appreciate you stopping through,
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Starting point is 00:38:43 Bring me in. Come on, y'all. You know what this is? Juice, nigger. You know what this is, man. Man, so much going on. Hey, bro. Exactly what you said, but I'm prepared for that.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Because at the end of the day, now I can really just go to war. Like, I can really go to war for a car. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, you don't understand that they might kill you about these head, bro. You have, you are wrong. Right now. Right now. now because for a while it was only people of a certain age group but you
Starting point is 00:39:18 was a little young probably when Trayvon happened but you got to see it. But I understood. I understood what was going on. That could have been me. So now think about it like this. Did you ain't see Rodney King? I ain't see Rodney King. Now we would have had a hundred people that was on this same shit like demanding on some shit like,
Starting point is 00:39:32 bro, you're telling me you like how even see you said like they are afraid. Why is that the first thing that come to your mind if you're supposed to be the police officer and you are afraid? afraid of niggas you protect hey bro they don't see this as human beings it's like this it's like this it's like this roach i know you fuck with roaches but roach running in somebody house they kill it automatically don't know why they don't have no reason to kill that they don't know that no fucking not bother you you are in ex-face you're a trip if somebody look at you say man why the fuck you step on that roach you mean it's a roach that's how they look at us so we're trying to reason with motherfuckers that ain't
Starting point is 00:40:07 got no reason like nigger on the debate team they say you got to attack a person's reason in order to get them to change their mind i can't change a range his mind because he don't have no reason to hate me I was just well hey oh we were driving over here saying bruh can niggins saying the same shit I said bro man you'll turn this Sanfield as shit oh that's hilarious that shit white as fuck no turn off that cocoa's all I'm like these niggins talk some real shit right now niggins leis Simpson air theme so well you're fucking up by gangsterism man my gangsterism nah we was on some revolutionary shit bro
Starting point is 00:40:41 like that's just for example like like the white white people they're waking up with just pure hatred in their fucking and like ain't i got some white friends i understand that but it's a majority of people who's got that cover up like hey how you doing that's really trying to be like you ain't got a problem with it but knowing you got a problem because you voted for a motherfucker who's part of this one it's less us against white now it's people versus the authority because it's the first time in a long time that white people being fucked up to being broke being at the house can't make no money so now they feel marginalized just like we do it's three types of white people you got uh white people that they like black people white people that hate
Starting point is 00:41:14 black people and white people that tolerate black people yeah well they don't even care what happened to you live or die yeah it's a new one fuckers that care they're seeing shit now because they fucked up they they they're like oh shit this is happening they fucked up they fucked up but they realized who really run the economy you did what I'm saying and it's like if they're not working then it affects us come on which it's been like that from the junk nigga if we were to choose not go pick cotton yo bitch ass ain't gonna go out there pick no country you You can't stay in the sun too long. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:46 You're gonna burn. Your skin ain't gonna start. Straight up. You dig what I'm saying? So you need a certain particular, a group of people to go do your hard label for you. Nick, this whole country built up. That's what minimum wage is.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Nick, that's what slavery is. I can minimum wage you. I can minimum wage you to death. Nick, I can have a whole business, minimum wage, no salary, no bonus, no net. I'm a minimum wage up. I'm gonna make you build my whole entire land up that I got over here.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I'm gonna take my money instead of you. Never told us what was going on. Just use our creative thinking. When you seen the nigga was doing something unordinary than the rest of the team, you're like, hold up, hold up, hold up. You seen the way, oh, Billy Bernard down now. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
Starting point is 00:42:33 you know that's that liquor now. Oh, but what's, what's fucking with that damn dirt? Yeah. They watched niggas, we had, we hadn't had that many resources. Nigger was building the shit out of dirt. And then was like, hi, come teach you. Come teach that to me right quick.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Because you don't have the resources that I got to make this dirt foundation become something. So now you're an architect. You have been an architect. You got me. You've been an architect. But you've been standing out of this.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I don't know what's going on. Wait a minute, man. You are all over the place. Welcome back to the 85 South show. I don't know what the fuck. That's been in the street. You lost. You can't be in the street.
Starting point is 00:43:10 You from Mississippi. You got all people to know. Mississippi? Shit, they've been keeping shit from y'all, niggins so long. What you mean? Shit. Mississippi is the racist place and the most niggerest place in the United States of America. Ah, man.
Starting point is 00:43:26 If you want to take any state, you're like, who you think is the most racist place in the United States? You're like, niggins. Don't go to Mississippi. Mississippi. By Mississippi? That shit sound like they still rest in Mississippi. You better not sit. I can't believe you saying that's sitting in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Georgia. The whole South is the same place. But we covered up industrialized though. You see what I'm saying? Like it's covered up but we know it. We know exactly what not to go. Like when you say certain shit, shh, what? Who? Don't go over there. You go over here? Yes, it's people who are racist because they have an own personal business so they don't have to hire you. They don't have to do that. Of course they're going to show their power because they are in power. This they shit, but if we had our shit, they would see it would affect their dollar. we wouldn't be over there you see what I'm saying and we're not the minority
Starting point is 00:44:15 nigger they told us that how can we be the minorities when every time everything we touch and it spreads everything we touch plural how we minor no that was a wealth class minor minor majority that was a wealth it's harder for white people just don't get these folks twits we're not minors man it's come from people who who is that's a poor class everybody's poor you dig what I'm saying it's harder to teach your kids racist values when they when they heroes is lebron james j z two pop you know i'm saying they're growing up on different people that they idolizing as my dad hero red fuck yeah but your daddy black i'm saying though who like a white person oh oh yeah my niggins my bad you was on your
Starting point is 00:44:58 shit my fault yeah now i'm just saying like it's we're getting more white people that that's seeing the struggle and the revolution and shit because they they're unable to be raised in that way because their favorite person in the world is lebron james their favorite person in the world is Michael Jackson. Like black people are in the forefronts front. So we are the minority in terms of total population, but in terms of fucking popularity.
Starting point is 00:45:21 No, listen, listen. Not really population. Because everything we touch, niggas, if you're going to fuck a white woman right now, a nigga, that baby, black. Guys, guys. Godhead, we minority, nigga, we are the majority. Guys, guys. White people came up with the 1% rule. Relax, gosh. So if anything, so any
Starting point is 00:45:37 time, anytime a white woman gets touched, that that motherfucker ain't pure. Who's the minority? Guys, relax. You guys are making some great points. You're just all over the place right now. Guys, we're on the same page. Guys, we're all over the place right now.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Stop saying guys, my nigger. I said two citizens. I don't know what the fuck they were about. Listen, guys, we're all over the place right now. That's what we're at, though. I know everybody's angry. I can still drive all over the place. I want to smoke.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I know everyone's angry right now. Get my revolution near wrong. I've been fighting. Let's direct this. I'm ready to go. You see my rad. I ain't bullshit. You know what?
Starting point is 00:46:15 I was at the protest. I went down there. What? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Watching. Where you was at?
Starting point is 00:46:24 It's been downtown. There's been a lot going on, man. Watching. Getting the people to go. Come here, buddy. Hey, I'm pulling the niggas shorts. Hey, nigger looking around. Nick, look.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Look, left, Nick. You look. What you're doing all that? Like a fly around. Hey, look at left. Listen to me. Look straight and listen to me. Knick like what?
Starting point is 00:46:47 Look straight, listen to me. I'm talking to the side. Look straight and listen to me. Mm-hmm. Look straight and listen to me. Look straight and listen to me. For real. Now, guys, there's protests going on all over the world right now.
Starting point is 00:47:03 People are upset and... Appreciate it too. About that they should be. Because, man, this is... We're really watching death. Ultimately. I'm alive though. And it's just like this shit is every other day
Starting point is 00:47:14 we're watching another black person died right in front of us. Me and you old enough to remember what they couldn't show dead people on TV. You remember that shit? I feel like it was illegal. They either had to have a sheet on or it was blurred out.
Starting point is 00:47:25 We're seeing actual physical murders. But you got to keep in mind, you said our generation, bro, we've been around to watch all the police brutality since it's been available. Right. Since Rodney King.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I was just crazy. It brings power to to even like even see that type of shit like I'm young I'm gonna 90 what year was that 92 I was 91 when he got beat up 92 was a riot 91 we got I won't even born then yeah you see what I'm saying and to even watch them beat a nigga trying to fight for him like just to get up and hit a nigga with the billy club and he fall again like yeah what type of enjoyment Natasha Harley was the first murder I saw on television if y'all don't know about that Natasha Hollis young black girl in New York man she was talking to a Korean store
Starting point is 00:48:07 on her and you know i mean cursed her out a little bit of when all that when she turned around the cream store and shot her in the back you can see it shot her right in the back and that was that was a huge that was a huge thing and that was the first time in my age that i saw a murder on television right yeah and you don't really get to see white people get murdered on tv either oh that she was what no i'm trying to see if anybody ever seen a white person murdered damn no the one guy in the hotel the one guy in the hotel who he had the yeah he had the BB guys oh yes yes i ain't see that They ain't televised that one. Unarmed, unarmed.
Starting point is 00:48:40 But that's it, though. Yeah, yeah. I see that. I seen the one when the white boy had the rifle and he was wrestling with the police. Y'all seen that one? Yeah. I seen that one.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I'm like, damn, boy, he went up to that nigga like a scared cat. But there's just been so many instances of police brutality since these protests have started from them, tear gas in the peaceful protest to them, you know, and trapping them in certain places, like the shit that happened with Clayton and getting people.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Trapped up on the roof and shit. Yeah. What happened? What are we talking about? He was on the roof last night, bro. Well. My nigga, he was protesting. The curfew was nine.
Starting point is 00:49:17 In the middle of it, they said the curfew was 8 o'clock. So there was a lot of people obviously trying to get home. He was on his, the street that he lives on. The police was cutting off streets, started shooting the rubber bullets at him tear gas. A white lady let everybody up onto her roof to just keep him safe. And then it was up there for a few hours. And the police came in the house and took all them people outside,
Starting point is 00:49:37 like on some real some Nazi shit Took them outside to do what? Churched them, I'm sure they'd look for warrants and shit, you know, had them handcuffed. But you say the curfew and we inside. You said the curfew, you know. But they ain't their house.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And? No, you were arguing with the wrong nigger. I know, but I'm saying, but I'm with you. No, I ain't arguing. I'm like, I'm just speaking in general. I'm gonna, yeah, we spend the night. Nah, but yeah, they had helicopters on them and everything, shit was on the news,
Starting point is 00:50:02 bro Clayton was on the news, man. But that one I'm trying to tell you, they came up with a system in order for them to be like, okay to do this shit we're gonna come up with a nine o'clock right and say to you need got to go home in nine o'clock now we pay everybody now you're gonna tell me when to go to fuck home yeah it's 24 hours in the day and you're gonna say go home at nine all right yeah because in nine 15 I'm on my way home though we we I stay a hour and
Starting point is 00:50:23 half away I ain't know you made this rule nigga at eight o'clock you dig what I'm saying all right so now it's a problem come on my way home and you feel like you know never get to talk to the police that long right you see what I'm saying you're saying a lot of words they yanking your ass out you dig what I'm saying so but for me to be a citizen and I'm paying my taxes you dig what I'm saying you got me fucked up that you think you just gonna but you're a blittison I can I ask you a black citizen I'm trying to think of this I'm like in my I don't recall ever seeing this many white people protest nothing black could they not no yes they k kkk has them in a different situation because protests normally in on monday because
Starting point is 00:51:02 people got to go to work they poor kkk they're like what y'all are marching to my shit I got to be the work out. But ain't nobody going to work now. So now everybody is fucked up. Exactly what he said? They poor, but they can't, KKK. Yeah. But if you're a poor white person,
Starting point is 00:51:16 you're just a lighter-skinned nigger. Because when you loot it, it's y'all. You ain't fighting for no calls, no black lines, mad, you know. Oh, we're talking about two different groups. I was going to get to the white looters and shit. But you're talking about the white people that's on our side, the protesters.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Yeah, I'm just, I ain't never seen white people. Oh, they're pook-KKK, them niggins too. Dickin I ain't through shit. They ain't poor KKK. I think it's because they poor. now because they're hurting now they're struggling they've been in the house three months like white people was grabbing a bunch of shit out of a bunch of places like that target like ain't that many niggas in minnesota so they couldn't
Starting point is 00:51:46 been doing all the looting you know what i'm saying it was white people everywhere again shit patagonia you know what the fuck they did yeah no what the fuck they did you wouldn't even know to take stuff out of there white people took bro i don't know this palagonia see what white people stole from is what i call it now oh this one i knew it was white people looting when the motherfuckers ride and they looting hot topic hot Top of it ain't. Nigger, they burnt down. Popeyes, that ain't us.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Motherfuckers hitting windows with skateboards. Who on a skateboard? Yeah, a couple of y'all nigg was my own skateboards. I don't think no nigga on those skateboards. There was a nigga on the skateboard in the van. That nigga hit a pothole stupid. I watched that name. Niggas straight-pane kill whitey on, shit.
Starting point is 00:52:24 There were no real niggas say kill white. I was like, did Damon Wayne come downtown? It's the last little color downtown riding. What if there was an old nigga down there, 71, kill? What? That's what we're doing, right? It was a white lady down time I had a poster talking about some.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Write two thoughts on this poster that you think wasn't saying. Man, I'm going to get this Archie Crabbs shit. I'm going to kick that hole in the face. That too, what are you going to take these thoughts and do, bitch? Who are you going to tell them two thoughts too? My thoughts. My thoughts. My thoughts.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Miss going to use that up. Yeah, I had a whole bunch of niggas right their thoughts. Ha, ha ha. White women been letting us down, bro. They don't want them. They didn't want to vote for Hillary. When did white women ever have our confidence to let us down? They voted for Obama.
Starting point is 00:53:12 White women helped him to vote for Obama. They helped me in tremendous. They didn't vote for it. Huh? You're going to have a whole bunch of black women coming at you. Because I said white women helped there with Obama and not with Hillary. I think they have them get Trump elected. Man, I'm going to tell you who helped Trump get elected.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Do you fake-ass who ain't with the KK? Hey, real quick, take that back about the black women getting on me because I know how they- All right, black women ain't going to get on you. Yeah. Don't get on them, y'all. I like my social media. Where is that? But what I'm telling you is,
Starting point is 00:53:40 it's so many undercover people that is represented by a particular party. You see what I'm saying? Think about it. All these people that, for him to feel like that was okay to kill,
Starting point is 00:53:51 but you knew he was with a particular party of people. You feel what I'm saying? Even though he's with, bang, bang, bang. Protected by the game. He's got a particular part of people that's with him that he feel
Starting point is 00:54:00 like he's going to be scraped regardless. You see what I'm saying? We don't have a particular party of people. Well, we're going to be scrape with God and dig what I'm saying that's what we need we did okay here's the breakdown on the talk your shit I hear you so what we need is justice the way the reason we can't get justice what is justice well you right because the
Starting point is 00:54:18 system is working perfectly because that's how they're made to work but I'm saying we need we need different prosecution for these people because they're except they're expecting motherfuckers to prosecute people that they cool with it like expecting me to prosecute you but I've been working with you five 10 years on my cases that I need help with so even if I don't work with you, I might work with fly. I work with somebody you know. And if I also prosecute you to the fullest of extent,
Starting point is 00:54:43 I will never win another case because that police department is not going to help me. So you got to have a whole separate ended, just like in Minneapolis now with George Floyd case. They got a special prosecutor on the case now. You know what I'm saying? But at first, it was about to be the homie. It was about to be the homie. So the black lady came in. Yeah, I forgot her name.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Yeah, the fix is already in with the autopsy and all that. Yeah. What they did say is asphyxiation. They tried to say a pre-existing conditions at first. What the fuck is a fixiation? That's something okay? Choking, yeah. Why they just ain't say that?
Starting point is 00:55:12 Well, because there's... It's called a fixage term for. We need to start saying that. Nigger, you don't fixiate me, nigga. There you go. There you go. You're like, what? There you go.
Starting point is 00:55:21 You know what? They're like, oh yeah! The officers tried to affixia. Hold on, hold. You got to get it. Asphyxiae. Asphyxiae. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Don't fixiate is not going to get it. It's not. It's not. I mean, it's too much. Yeah, it's a lie. Yeah, they ain't. Hey, hey, fuck. They got Google.
Starting point is 00:55:38 That's what you call a valiant effort. That's a damn right. You see what I'm saying? But we got to understand what war that we fight in. We're not, niggins, that same goddamn war that we fighting equally. We understand that we end is the war on the begin. What, what do you mean? Niggins who understood, though.
Starting point is 00:56:00 No, I'm saying, like, I'm asking you to go deeper. Oh, you can come on what I'm saying. No, I'm not being dumb. I'm trying to lead you to talk more shit. Communication game is always. No, see what we're saying the same thing. The world got us fucked up. The older generation.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Uh-huh, I see where you going. Yeah, that's stupid. That little nigger, that is stupid. I see where you going. Keep on. You know, the old nigger, they just want you shut up. I see where you're going. That little, that is stupid.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Now, we went to, you just want to get, yeah what I mean? No, but you got to understand, like, we speak in the same language. I understand. I want to be able to, I want you be able to go out there and speak and know you got a force behind. I want you to be able to go out there and speak and knowing you got a force behind you. Not only you got a force behind you, but I believe in what you're saying, because a lot of people don't believe in what niggas are down there. If I can get a bullhorn and get 100 niggas behind me, but 50 niggas is probably, together, it's like,
Starting point is 00:56:52 man, they don't, they don't believe you. We got to actually believe in each other's perspective so our fucking movement can be stronger. Everybody ain't got to be down there yelling. yelling. Everybody ain't got to be down there yelling. We can move in unison and have somebody and it's in order. Once he done, once he done, the next person takes the flow. Yeah. And once he done, the next person takes the flow. There are some things that are doing that already. You might be 146 that's in line to talk. So until it's your time, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up and move. Because they ain't going, they're going, they're going, they're going to hit it for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Damn, what are they going to? And it ain't got to be announced. Yeah. What we're walking and when we meet up and when we walk it. Right. You keep putting this shit on social media. They'll find out when they call the news. Look. Just give everybody a password to the same email, write what you got to write in the drafts and they can't never trace.
Starting point is 00:57:45 No, it's still ain't going to work. This is... What you mean? This is America. There's no way around these. If all of us got the same email address and we never send the email, we write it in the draft, I log in to see what you put looking in the draft. Come on, man, cut that part. I like that.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I like that. But then it might be an infiltrator that got the password to the email. Yeah, that's fine. You trick them. I mean, you drink them. Come on, man. It's a strategy, man. I'm with that.
Starting point is 00:58:07 That's part of war. Strategy is, what you're saying is where the war started. Part of war is the strategy. And we also got to be. You're doing it. You're doing. You're doing. All the stuff you're doing, giving back to your community, making people stronger, making
Starting point is 00:58:18 making niggas in the hood want to do comedy. Right. That's part of the strategy. That's part of building us better instead of when we was growing up, the dope boys was the niggas that we looked to. That was all our strategy. You understand. I think there's somebody that's in power wanted this.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Because they let this festival for so long. Like they created a powder keg of just problems for everybody. And then you just look at all the things that have happened and over the course of, you know, the last three, four months. Yeah. It's just like they sent out the stimulus check just to start some shit. Just to start some shit. Where y'all get the money from?
Starting point is 00:58:52 Nika been poe for a long ad time. The country has a lot of money, nigga. Four got $500 to give it to $500 trillion. Just like how you said, it started affecting the white people right. When them folks start losing their job, they have. a plan to feed them they immediately but we was amongst the group of people that everybody became niggas for corona the everybody everybody had to get on the unemployment and what happened to corona once all this happened niggas that's all right we ain't gonna get
Starting point is 00:59:17 revolution yeah man check this out yeah yeah smokey blood so shit get deep yeah man ain't enough bro it's so fucked up i got a lot of weed and ain't enough weed it's crazy I'm gonna try to eat 40 million people unemployed come on nigga that's more than black people I didn't even know I didn't know about the recession I knew but I didn't understand you young I didn't understand I'm like oh I can hear Jesus boy he did through rescission I'm like that I'm saying that's 40 million is more than there are black people on the planet 40 million niggins more than 40 million black people look it on the planet it's 40 million black people
Starting point is 00:59:51 in America okay look it up that's another that's another a statement I got look up but guess what we are this is the highest unemployment rate and it was higher than the recession right right you see what i'm saying so the the social media can cover up a lot of shit and we were headed towards a recession anyway so the shit is like double trouble yeah so they got added like oh shit it's going it's going further than we wanted to go so we're going to have to goddamn now think about this curtail something Detroit went up under the recession and still been trying to bounce back for the longest right you did what I'm saying so it's like we don't want them folk to come up with a plan and then we still been just trying to fight the
Starting point is 01:00:28 work again you see what I'm saying just to even work so now that we can work black wall scree i'm gonna keep hearing you in your motherfucking faith now that you're able to work let's spend the dollars with each other because i think that's perfect spending with each other with each other because i think that's what this whole thing is about though but this this is the reason they try i think they try to level out the economy because there are more entrepreneurs now than there have ever been motherfucker. They were like, hold on, this is getting out of control.
Starting point is 01:01:00 We can't find where everybody getting their money from. That's why they're doing the census and shit. They're trying to figure how many the niggins in your house? Miss, you got a barbershop or salon. How many people in your goddamn house, man? They feel like everything in the trap. To be fair, they've been doing the census, but... We ain't been answering them, nigg.
Starting point is 01:01:17 How many people in your house? If you don't keep fucking walking, mitchie-ass, we see their ass. Wait a minute. According to the research, according to the research department, There are 1.2 billion Africans. There are 37 million African Americans. That's what I said.
Starting point is 01:01:32 That's under 40. That's under 40. That's under 40. It was 40 million black people in the world. You did say that. You just had. I'm just showing you my research department. We didn't show us black.
Starting point is 01:01:43 No, more black. Hey, niggia, did y'all get this camera fit right here, whichever one and they had these. He's looking like this all the time, one. The glitching. No, that was because we was doing a live stream. Oh, okay. That shit was tripping me out, man.
Starting point is 01:01:54 We were testing out. I was like, all this shit is wow. We don't fuck with that technology anymore. All right, cool, cool. When you said it ain't but 40 million black people in the world, look at Marvin Gaye started looking at you. Fuck you. Marvin Gaye was like, man, this nigga is.
Starting point is 01:02:06 I want a woman that listens. Hey, bro, I found it. Hey, I knew I should say, hey, y'all niggins set niggins up. I was like, well, I fly you sitting way over there. I get it. I get it. That's a mean. That's over for me.
Starting point is 01:02:19 No, really to be honest, Marva Gay made us realize he was there. It was like some shit had to win on. And we looked at, we were like, hell no, he was like, nigger, I told y'all. I did try to hear y'all. So we're like, we heard your bar. Oh, man. So you got a plan fly?
Starting point is 01:02:34 I do. What's your plan? It ain't meant to be told to everybody. Oh, I really just want to know if you had one. Yes. And it's not only just, and it's not only just a plan, it's a, I can say this, it's a group of people. Not only we, we not have a plan, we also have a destination.
Starting point is 01:02:51 There you go. Once we, because a lot of people want to be leaders, but where are you leading your people? Right. You feel me? You're gonna be like, let's go over here. And then once we don't fought so hard to get over here, then they're like, now what's next?
Starting point is 01:03:02 Because I'm gonna be hon. It's a lot of people that don't mind being guided. That don't mind being guided. And there's a lot of people that's having to say so. But we want to let people know that we respect your opinion, and we're going to add your opinion to the agenda that we got. Now when you're out there fighting, you ain't just fighting for, oh man, we're fighting because you're gonna be out here.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Nah, man, I'm for adding my opinion to the agenda, niggins. Right. So I know they need me. I'm fighting for my shit now. I'm fighting for my shit now. Even though we are here together, nigger, we're out here together. You did what I'm saying? All of us in this room right now, nigger.
Starting point is 01:03:33 If everybody write their problem on a piece of paper, and we put all, that problem. You sound like the white bitch at the protest. Who? Hell now. Hell now. Because she's doing that for show. You see what I'm saying? She's doing that for show.
Starting point is 01:03:47 She's talking about some writing this shit on the poster and then you go home. Like we, you're talking about writing a problem. I'm asking you what's your problem. I'm asking you what's your problem. and what's your contact brother you dig what I'm saying because not only I'm letting you know niggins your shit got a voice yeah and any you can come so well where you feel like you got a voice you dig what I'm saying yeah you're yelling but I'm we're feeling to show you how to organize a structure day
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Starting point is 01:07:20 The I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you go to find your podcast. We definitely need some resources. And some opportunities. That's the only way you can fight a war with your resources. That's how the bank started. That's how to do the, or a fund. Everything, you can't be president without resources. It's a fun.
Starting point is 01:07:34 We have a fund. We have a fund. And it's more than just, resources is more than just money. You know what I'm saying? It's real estate. It's knowledge. Talk your shit. It's lawyers.
Starting point is 01:07:44 It's access. Our, our police. But this how, but this. You got four, five homeboys from your hood in the police precinct. This is how the black wall screen shit came up, right? We get a list of all the doctors, all the mechanics, all the business, all the real estate developers, all the architects, all the barbers, all the teachers, all the everything. And guess what? We don't have to go to the CVS's and these doctors and that.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I was just telling my photo that I was like, man, I wish I had a doctor I can call. Right. I know a nigga. I know a doctor. So I can call this nigga for a call for anything. Hey, boy, I think you've been doing that at the beginning time, house calls? Ain't a black person ever had a house call from a doctor. That shit looks like it's on the movies.
Starting point is 01:08:22 That shit is a real life. That's how community to be built, my nigga. You dig what I'm saying? How to hell if we get eight teachers and we come up with our own curriculum and we teach the kids? Come on. Who to fault making up this curriculum to tell you to teach the African American? We didn't come up with a curriculum to tell you to go teach the white folks. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:40 School is the institution to get you prepared for jail. You know, school is to get you prepared for jail. Especially black private, like private, I mean, public, schools especially. You got to listen to all jail or work, but go ahead. You got to do everything I say. You got to get up by the bell. You got to sit still when I let you go. You got to walk in a line. You got to eat
Starting point is 01:08:58 child together in a certain time. You got to go to the yard at recess. You got to get your physical fitness. We're going to teach you everything we want you to do in order to get a job. We're not going to teach you how to live life. We're never going to talk about balancing a checkbook or balancing your accounts. We ain't going to talk about finance. We're going to never talk about none of that.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I'm not going to knock that. I'm not going to knock that but let's change the narrative. Let's go. Let's go. I'm with you. That's exactly what the fuck they did. But we still need order and it need to be structured. Not saying that was wrong.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Let's use that demonstration. Let's use that blueprint. But then we educate them on. Knicker, yeah, we're eating at 1 o'clock. But we are teaching y'all. We are showing you a system that works amongst us. Shout out, LeBron, because you already started that with the school you got. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:46 So it started off with that. He built the school. Hey, it ain't got 1,000 kids in that motherfucker, but got 150. That could change the world. 150 kids with your own teachers and your own curriculums. We're passing these niggas. We ain't got to do no test and be looking over no scantron and shit. Y'all, nigger, we talk.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Nigel. Skatron. You're going to go off, nigger, go on. Nigger, asphyxiation. Nigel scantron and sixie. Go on. Talk your shit. Go on, frack.
Starting point is 01:10:13 This shit is indispisible. Stay out. Stop living in a, hold up, hold up. You got a pessimistic mindset. Right again. Right it again. Pestimistic. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Hold on, I thought what the T in it. Hold on, at the end, at the end. I know it's pessimism. Yo, I don't got it. Okay, leave the Tiat. Because I would think of optimistic. Okay, okay, here we go. Pessimistic.
Starting point is 01:10:47 You bet you. You bit you. Take that mindset out, man. Come on, man. We got to, we got to educate. Like, see, I don't mind listening to somebody if you're going to educate me. Like, you should not listen to someone
Starting point is 01:11:04 that's not teaching you something. I don't mind. See, we got the damn little let out niggas know to like ball players and you want to be a dope boy. You got the ambition to want to do that. Yeah. Got to have that same ambition to want to listen. So, nigg be like, boy, I'm going to be like,
Starting point is 01:11:16 boy, I'm going to be like, I'm gonna go listen to the nigger who up here who fined to go speak. The nigga talking that shit. He's, he's, he wanna go. You're like, why? Man, that nigga be feeding the nigga so much knowledge, nigga, nigga, the shit that I learned from these motherfucker man, and I implement that in my life,
Starting point is 01:11:30 nigger, what? As I get older and realize shit, I'm like, nigger, I'm picking up. Like, I realize why they didn't want us to be smart. Because when we're smarter, we educated, we understand that the system that they built don't work for us. It's not our system.
Starting point is 01:11:44 We don't understand it's a system because it's not educated. The system works because it was supposed work this way. Right. It was made by the people that's benefiting. The trap. The trap. You feel what I'm saying? Put a system the trap they are. You feel me. Why are you scared to read a book? Told you, but I'll read your ad won't get killed. You'll get killed for reading the book. Now it's just so hereditary. You don't even want to go to the library. Go on now. Nick, that shit is a building full of knowledge that you walk in bass.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Every fucking, go get high and just look at some shit. Or just walk around. You ain't any got to read a book. Sometimes I take baby still. Just go in there and walk around. They might They might harassing. Excuse me, sir. Hey, hey, shh, bitch. I'm in the library. I don't know where I'm going. I'm just walking in faith.
Starting point is 01:12:26 You hear me? Some let me to come in this motherfucker and get a creative mindset. Hey, man, welcome back to their fast now. This nigger is going to fuck off. Oh, this is a motherfucker doing shit, gay. They're going to be like, Lois, you're just sitting there high. Like, nah, you got to understand. When this nigga go off on the rent, you just got to let them have it, man.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I haven't, man. I don't have that, you know, it's not often that you're in this mode. Yeah, you've had that shit. I've been in months, my nigga, because that shit just give me energy, because this is one of the first time people in your age range are feeling this way and speaking about it. And being passionate about it, man. But be passionate and also understand that if we're going to do it y'all, if we're going to do it, let's not be one to one that do it just because when something happened or when
Starting point is 01:13:09 some who, woo, woo, whoa, let's do it for the ground. Let's do it for a cause. Then after we know what the cause is, let's have a destination. to take our people. Shit, the cause is our lives. This is a turning point in our lives. This is our lives, but we gotta have a promise land. And we're gonna take our people to the promise land.
Starting point is 01:13:29 We got to have one. We got to have one. Don't just sell them a dream and a hope, and you heard what the promise land was, and you ain't a part of creating the promise land. When I say Black Wall Street, that's a promise land. You see what I'm saying? That's an area where we are defined as whatever we want to be.
Starting point is 01:13:45 whatever we want to be. If you think you're a king and you're a pharaoh, nigger go down there on Black Wall Street and watch how you feel like a king and a Pharaoh, my nigga. Cause that's the Promised Land. You over here on need four territory. That shit ain't made for you. The energy wrong.
Starting point is 01:13:58 The frequency wrong. The vibe is wrong because you're not wanting. You dig what I'm saying? Because the system that they built wasn't for you. When you walk on down down on Black Wall Street, you can be whatever the fuck you want to be. Dig what I'm saying. That's the Promise land.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Do what you want to do. Niggas need to be educated on that shit. That's why I'd be loving hearing motherfuckers. Like, I don't care. No, I love hearing you say that shit. But this is what I'm saying. It took time for me to understand and grasp it and use it in my own life.
Starting point is 01:14:26 You feel what I'm like, you're right. Because there's a lot of people at the career they're like, man, that shit ain't affecting me, man. You know what I'm gonna do-bo-bo-bo-bo-boo-but. But yes, it is, bro. So the same thing, we gotta talk about the civil rights error and shit, it didn't affect us until we saw Rodney King. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:39 So it's the same way with you. You've seen what was happening to maybe a trade around Martin, Sterling, Philando, Castile I can keep going with the name and I just watch and I just watched the repeated cycle after everything it's like it's the every it's just the only thing they change is the name they give you the same information same take the same time to delay and I'm gonna tell you what else you got black children right so and and not only not only that I know white people so I can get an opinion where I got
Starting point is 01:15:05 a source what the fuck they're saying over there since you're gonna be my friend homie could get with no you my friend shit no you my friend no you my friend you you infiltrate they shit how we do it I got white friends nigger what going on what's being said I don't fucking know DC man but I promise you man this shit ain't right I promise you man and guess what I tell them that ain't a fuck enough nigga go dead fight get out my face and d right you dig what I'm saying cause it ain't no fucking reason my nigga get out my face and go dead you dig what I'm saying because if you were around my pungler and they felt like punching your
Starting point is 01:15:39 ass and I'm gonna be like hey hey hold look they my little ponder bro you did what I'm Don't punny man in the act. What do you do to you? It's like, fuck you mean, bro. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So it's like, what's up? We don't walk around with hate, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:15:52 You know what I'm saying? So, but it took like for me to go listen to people like Farrak Khan and just go listen to leaders and understand the Malcolm Met story. Just understand the purpose. I understand people's lives and careers, but I'm trying to understand the purpose, even for what the time frame, even with the Marlou de King, not even with just those people, like the people who just died, right?
Starting point is 01:16:11 The people who just died, right, I love history, but I love hidden history better. Yep. So the nigger who just died, right, I don't want to call the nigga the king, John Lewis. John Lewis? John Lewis. John Lewis, yeah, yeah. Now, off the credit. John Lewis, who the light skin, nigga wore, who Jepad?
Starting point is 01:16:31 Oh, the fucking man. No, no, man. Well, everybody is not up on shit. Who cut this out. We don't know black. Who cut this out. This is a shit. There's a lot of people in the house smoking like, boy, what the fuck.
Starting point is 01:16:41 But who is that thing? Who are they, Mena? How you spelled Mena? Huh? Rob David. Raph David, that pair. I knew he was light skin. We had a lot of light skin, civil right.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I don't know Joseph. My bad. I knew it was JL, though. But I knew it was JL, though. I said, John. My bad, my bad, John. It was J.L, though. It was JL.
Starting point is 01:17:04 You didn't. We healed. We healed. All right. So Joseph Larr, right? Yeah. What was he? What was he? What was he over the Indiana Southern Leadership Pressure Conference?
Starting point is 01:17:16 SCLC. SCLC. But weren't he part of NWACB? Bro. He probably, he was in all that shit. Okay, cool. He probably started that shit. Okay, but think about it like this.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Okay, but think about it like this. When you, when I say history and we need to have a curriculum, when I say I love hearing the hidden history, the real shit that they're not going to tell us. So you got years of stories and knowledge that you need to tell to the next generation that need to hear it that they're not going to inform us on. You see what I'm saying? If you knew some of those stories when you were with Martin and you were with Malcolm and some real shit that y'all were talking about, man, niggas won't hear that shit, man. What happened? Man, I remember when we was fighting for this cause, but we went at it with this approach and we would do with you.
Starting point is 01:18:05 You know what I'm saying? Like, we want to hear that knowledge because now it makes us more strong and powerful because now we know our roots. Like, nigga, now we can go out there and even say your perspective, your perspective, his perspective. Now, this is a young generation. Now we got the older generation perspective. Nick, you remember when, Nick Joseph Larez, they're like, nigga, Joseph Lange, they're like, nigga, Joe, what? What?
Starting point is 01:18:24 Who the fuck? How do he know that? Like, yeah, nigga, we tapped in, nigga. Yeah. We tapped in, nigga. We tapped in, nigga. We talked in, nigga. That's what you mean.
Starting point is 01:18:36 And we ain't fin to do none of that. Nigel y'all, when we know so much shit, once we come. Come at them with all this knowledge and power, bro, they're gonna be like, bro, we're unstopper. Let me tell you some. Let me tell you some. Which one, my camera, though. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:18:49 All on, this shit roared. Hey, look, I know it. Hey, all y'all young niggas with the Dracos and the little jeans. This the nigga you protect at all cost. You hear me? This is the one you ride for. Okay, this is your nipsy. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:19:03 So this is the one, straight up. You're getting to the point when nigg is getting tired, bro. And nigger, like I say, at the end of the day, you got to understand that, you got to understand that when you leave, your house you might not make it back home come on so I understand that so when I'm out here fighting I'm risking my life I ain't tripping on it because I got nieces
Starting point is 01:19:19 and nephews out here you feel I got my nephews out here I don't want to get a call that niggie you know officer put that knee on my nephew and I'm like wait what right man you think that's crazy is you think open that this is like man you're gonna say it again you think open that that's just like big I bet. Nobody gonna be able to stop. First of all, because I'm organized. Now my angered frustration is organized.
Starting point is 01:19:46 You dig what I'm saying? I got a group of people that's behind me that understand that other shit. It worked, but we need something else and we're ready. We need something else. Damn, that man was 99 years old. Real talk. That's so much knowledge. That's so much knowledge, my maker.
Starting point is 01:20:02 NAACP Lifetime Achievement Award, Presidential Medal of Freedom, and he founded the Southern Christian leadership. Now think about this. He found it the Southern Leader, what it is, SELW? Southern Christian Leadership Coalition. SCLC. Now, why isn't the, I don't want to speak out of term, but why isn't the SCL more bigger? Yeah, it is it? So you got to understand also, you got to understand also a lot of the leaders that we had were getting attacked and murder. So a lot of the organizations they had were falling down. Because when you hit the head, the body and this mouth. Yeah, I was saying, you need individual leaders, so they can't, that goes back to that.
Starting point is 01:20:44 So that's why these things, you might have read about them in school, may or not, but you're not going to know. But people can't unsee this on social media. It's there forever. You can't unsee this. But that's what I'm saying. Not only am I getting instructed to make sure that a group of people is on the same path, it's also another group of people that's getting. ordered and getting structure that's on the same path as just like he it's got to be a numerous of leaders you dig what I'm saying not just one I want I want to be able to go
Starting point is 01:21:21 hey man we got making all cities got a leader yeah but they all got achieve that what they get you see what I'm saying I just won't be sloppy that's the mob but see that's what I'm saying it all sounds good hypothetically but you got to look at what's going on right now like this whole all these protests right now that's going on. This whole movement has been hijacked and infiltrated by people who don't have the same agenda. Right. You're not in fighting because you just see looters.
Starting point is 01:21:48 It's making all these things that you saying 10 times harder to achieve because you do have people who came down there just with some fuck shit that ain't got nothing to do with none of that. Dressed up like what? They've been waiting for this. Dressed up like a group of people that have no organization. They have no
Starting point is 01:22:04 structure. So of course you can just dress up. That's what I'm trying to get you. That's what I'm telling you. The people who have infiltrated the movement and shit like that, they are more organized within the infiltration than the movement. They are being told to go infiltrate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Right. They had the plan already before this happened. They were waiting on it. We are reacting to it. They were waiting on it. That's why if we march, you can march with us, not saying you can't, but you just can't just, but first of all, you're not going to walk when the army walk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:37 You don't just, you sit down. why like what the fuck they're going you don't go up with them like boy I used to be an army vet too let me got now hey well you better you better yeah I ain't say no more walk your bitch out back on the street yeah yeah yeah it's like it's like it's like a fraternity I'm in a fraternity now you could tell me you're in my fraternity but I got a series of questions I need to ask you first before because he up under a chapter right okay yeah yeah yeah yeah because I ain't want no they don't mean I do my history you understand what I'm saying you know saying you may not be for real you could just be saying
Starting point is 01:23:08 that shit but I can find out so we got to have the same thing but just like just like I fought with a selected group of people and I'm not one of y'all that's power I have a source hey brother aren't you with a certain organization right right I like how y'all structuring and get what me and you are in a certain organization now you can lead another certain organization up under the same form guideline talk your shit you dig what I'm saying but we got to be on the same accord man talk your shit for real man hey who had told y'all I didn't go down there, man. Who the hell is orchestrating all this shit, man?
Starting point is 01:23:40 Come on, man, when those folks move, don't know how you say the SCLC, it passed on, or the NWACP, you end up somebody white, took the name, owned the name. You just can't infiltrate. I'm gonna speak how I fought with the mud, just like the nation of Islam, right? The way they move, when they come out,
Starting point is 01:23:58 you just can't walk in between them folks. You know not to. You know who fought the nation of Islam. I mean, because they dress in a certain way, they're talking in a certain amount. They're moving, you see what I'm saying. I take it a step further. all them crackers that had them ARs down to the state house they didn't move back they
Starting point is 01:24:10 ain't move at them it's a different it's a different drill it's a different drill than with your fist up than when the nigga you got the strap on it's a way you shit that nigga with that scrap it's rest of it ain't got nothing to do a color then it's respect it's respect I respect you enough not to agitate you because if I agitate you I feel like you're on your right but you feel yeah you feel safe because you know the folk on your side I'm not going to I don't I don't The only way I'm going to feel safe is because I got a group of people that's speaking the action that I'm talking about. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:44 He's going to speak it, but we're going to act it out. It's a different. So you've got a thousand people that's talking all up at one time. The protests look great because y'all are speaking for a cause, but it's too much talking where they're not getting the message. And you don't have an army down there protecting y'all. It's a down there at the protest today. I was just walking amongst the people just checking it out, getting the vibe. The four got the Army, down there, four loaded, them folks scrapped up, who down there
Starting point is 01:25:11 protecting them pro-Tead people? Who protecting them pro-Tead people? Before when they folks start shooting y'all niggins with them down, them, dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum rubber bullets and shit like that. Tell you the cold of shit, half the niggas in the Army or in the National Guard that's down there, gonna have to sleep on them same streets when they get out the Army. Come on, man. They're gonna be homeless.
Starting point is 01:25:31 American, I finished care y'all. You just said some powerful shit. He definitely did that, me. America don't care about you, bro. He definitely said that could have, I seen so many homeless veterans. I'm like, damn, that's how they treat y'all. This how you treat your Indians?
Starting point is 01:25:41 Yes. Them niggas go to war for you. And you, no, this is a particular part that you always got a brother. You always got a resource. This ain't no, like I said, if I know somebody, brother, but we're so powerful and we are connected
Starting point is 01:25:54 with anywhere. Oh, you're going to go to Kentucky? Boy, I got a group of people that will take care of you. Oh, you're going to go somewhere else? Boy, it's a community up there that are take care. My nigga, the same thing with the fraternity. I was in college, I can drive to damn near any school and know I had something to eat
Starting point is 01:26:06 and somewhere to sleep just because of my fraternity. I ain't even had the call ahead. I could just pull up. Why can't it be like that? It can't. That's what I'm saying. Why you can't? No, because you didn't know.
Starting point is 01:26:18 They didn't know or it wasn't people willing to be guided? Because once you see a movement, people tend to adapt. So that's why I say it takes time. Because when motherfuckers would be like, yeah, it took time. You got to think about how long we've been fighting. And it took time for us to actually come together. Like how you said, the Black Panther movement was so strong. But they saw how strong you were.
Starting point is 01:26:39 They come after every strong movement. So, but you got to understand. We got to be prepared that if something happened, do not be scared and let the body fall. Then that mean we have let all this go down for nothing. They're going to kill you anyway. Scared or brave. Right. So continue.
Starting point is 01:26:53 So we would have had another Malcolm and another Martin right there ready. Bop, bongue Martin, the third. Ready. We got to accept. We got accept leaders better, though. Yeah, I mean, we roast the shit out of everything. What we got? We don't get a fuck.
Starting point is 01:27:08 But you know, that comes from hate. We have the people got to be more respectful. That comes from hate now. I think so, though. We got to stop roasting our leaders, man. But I'm gonna tell you never get no respect. Jesse Jackson don't like nobody, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Jesse don't get no respect because Jesse did a lot of a dirty-ass. Motherfucking shit. Even before all that. He got out of King killed. Jesse, he did a lot of dirty mother. a lot of dirty motherfucking shit. Yeah, Jesse said that came up.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Yeah, yeah. But see, that go to show that not only another color would infiltrate, but your own brother would and will forget the purpose and the cause because you want the line. I'm like, this is not something that is fame, or absorbent, you know what I'm saying? You're not gonna get recognized from this.
Starting point is 01:27:54 We don't care about all that. We're trying to lead you to the promised land. We gotta stop being petty. Oh, oh. Harriet Tubman wasn't looking for no fame. Right. She only looked for motherfuckers who was on the same mood. She would kill.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Let me ask you this. What? I'll ask you this, mark your ass if you want with that shit. Fly. Or if you were fin to try to fuck this whole plan up. Yeah. Boy, you gonna take their sad boy, I'll leave. Matter of fact, I'm gonna go ahead and do what they're gonna do to you then.
Starting point is 01:28:21 You're talking about getting famous. How you feel about people saying all the celebrities are canceled and all these people coming out and saying, saying all the wrong shit. saying all the wrong shit. Because they have a movement and I think people, like I say, people wanna be guided. So somebody that inspire you and you feel like they're not saying that about you like, where's the inspiration?
Starting point is 01:28:40 You see what I'm saying? But I understand when a celebrity talk, he wanna come from a place of facts and purpose. And he don't wanna just seem to be talking. Or he don't, because I understand when you put yourself on the political side, you're there, now you got to really, you got to do this shit.
Starting point is 01:28:55 You gotta do that, you can't just be like, You're down now. Well, she'll open your mouth up. It's like, all right, nigga. If it's a pro tech going on, we got to do something. If you're going to have a plan, we need the DBC. Because I got a tour with somebody who was like, why ain't you see you?
Starting point is 01:29:08 I said, damn, first of all, so because you ain't see me protesting and being loud don't mean I protest. I ain't never prostit or I ain't for the people. Now, when the corona hit, I came out my pocket and fed my whole neighborhood. This ain't got nothing to do with. We're talking about a plan after that.
Starting point is 01:29:25 We hear y'all, but where are you going to lead the people? need a promise land you see what I'm saying flip side of that the people are who make the celebrity so we so the people need to stop putting so much on this on a celebrity a celebrity is nothing more than someone that could do something very well to the point that people come to see them and want to see what they're doing right right so we shouldn't put them to be civil rights leaders his internet on a civil rights standpoint is it might not be half somebody asked me why I don't post what I do for the community I was like What the hell does that have to do?
Starting point is 01:30:00 What's that gonna do? But if you did do it, then they would say that you're not being genuine. You're not being genuine, but this is my only part take on. I didn't know that until all of this happened. This is my only part take on it when I'm like, you know what, I feel like that. Understandable, because now it's to the point
Starting point is 01:30:14 where I'm black, like, this shit is just out of hand. And it's to the point where I always been down for, I'm D.C. to the motherfucker, a rock. Once I'm standing for some shit, then I'm on it. I love to represent something. Like, I love that type of shit. When I step out, they go, oh, they go them boys,
Starting point is 01:30:31 who them boy, the motherfucking boys? You dig what I'm saying? I stand for some. You dig what I'm saying? So I always been down for that shit, and I feel like the more and more this shit tap in, it's more so it's like, you know what? It's time.
Starting point is 01:30:48 It's to the point where it's like, you know what? It's time. Because I see other shit, and I've heard about other organizations, and when you see them, and the power of just the name and the force. And when they walk in, you know not to fuck with it. What you're going through right now, what you're going through right now
Starting point is 01:31:05 is the definition of woke. The supreme definition. You finally awake. So I was asleep. Yeah. It's okay. You were riding. You're getting in.
Starting point is 01:31:15 That's why I ain't cut you off. You got it. He ain't woke up. Nika woke up. Fly woke up. That's why that's why that nigga going crazy. But you know what? This is what won't me.
Starting point is 01:31:23 I'm glad. I'm glad it happened like this now versus when. When I was like on pill popping day, you feel like, boy. What was your favorite gun back then? Any gun I'd get my hand right. That big work. Did that big work?
Starting point is 01:31:38 Did that big go? That big, pa-p-pah! I can't let it say, p'pah, in the jam. Dude, that big word, though. You know, suit out. The suit out and say, pauses, you just can't ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta. They get that nigger hide the whole time.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Be real with the people, D.C. You dig what I'm saying? D.C. Be real with these people. Hey, man, they got the pa-p-p-pa-pa. But I'm saying, be real, ain't no shootout like that. All shootouts are going this way or behind the car. Of a niggis skate.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Bray, you didn't, you didn't shoot out, shout out, tore, somebody. Well, you didn't have a nigger reverse. Come on. I'm like, hey, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say that. Excuse me. I'm not John God, I'm not, I'm coming peace. But what I'm saying is when that time is, it's time.
Starting point is 01:32:18 You got to be able to protect yourself and understand how to control the situation. What I'm saying is, I got some niggas off my ass. who thought they was gonna get on me. And I'm not no killer. I ain't saying I'm no killer, but I know how to get a nigga, you know what I'm saying? I know how to, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:32:35 So a nigga thought he's gonna do something to me and I'm just like, no, what, papa, papa, and I say mine, just in case you had some more. Come on. And you went somewhere else. Yeah. I'm good, nobody died.
Starting point is 01:32:46 But you got to mess. You know what's up. You dig what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what's up. So it's like, we gotta have just a force for us because we don't have an army, for black people it's a lot of organizations but they're not our army so i'm a different like i i'm willing to be like okay when you see him that's the or when you see them particular people
Starting point is 01:33:08 it's an army but for the promised land you see what i'm saying like just like how you say it's like you with fraternity right right and you know every every time you go to another state you scrape you good and say somebody house you good or y'all got a selected spot with the fraternity yeah One phone call. Now, what have we scratched this same foundation to blocks? Now, not only your fraternity on this house, it owns the next block, and the next street over, and the next street over. And not only, you are a comedian, first of all, niggas in your fraternity, just like it with your family. Oh, boy, we got a nigga that's in the entertainment.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Boom, that's a source. Whoever's a part of that fraternity and whatever you do in your goddamn profession, you are a source. We use, I'm telling we do that. We know a nigger. That's a police officer. know somebody that's going to be a sheriff you know somebody's going to be a judge or no a judge you know somebody that know somebody and that's how white people got this got control of the country they're what i'm saying like you say when they got control of the country they built a so-called
Starting point is 01:34:10 system for they people yeah see what i'm saying part of their system was got a word for you infrastructure infrastructure boom you feel what i'm saying i didn't want to say the promise lander they ain't wanted the promise land they didn't know they're one the prominent land they stole our They lie. They're like, hey, boy, y'all gonna do that. Come on, we go, it's a free line, oh yeah. So we get away, you're like, boy, y'all, niggins lie. Boy, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:34:33 You feel me? So it's like, we got this, you know what we got, that same goddamn mentality that will, you know what I'm saying, what we got and just build us. Niggins know they lied on the boat. Man, what? Once you got in the boat. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Hey! Anytime you got to get some niggins, then take them somewhere. That means he didn't want to go. Mm-hmm. Oh, nah. So some people were, some Africans were chained in the middle of the ocean. of the ocean they were walked on to the boat by other Africans but that's a oh yeah you know
Starting point is 01:35:02 but then that's when them niggas that when I say they infiltrated the system so you had niggas who had a plan and then niggas who infiltrated the system just so they can live better to please another particular group of people but we woke now whoa we escrowe oh yeah y'all been going in for a minute bro this shit get fun after a minute bro that way I really started like doing that shit though because I can take like my aggression and my like hood tactics and like use them for good use them for good you feel it I'm talking my girl before I love I ain't gonna lie I love I love y'all but I told my girl I said I'm gonna tell you how many white people I knock out
Starting point is 01:35:38 the day I get your man love I can't man I love it to death you know hey I read out of here I'm gonna tell you how many people I knock out the day you see but I went down with intention of peace you feel now now it's not Not the time. No, man. It's definitely the time. Just for, just for, just to get together, bro. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:36:04 I'm just educate. Like, it's to the time where I want to know whatever, like, I'm intrigued by another person's intellect. You what? I'm intrigued. Come on, nigger. I'm going to work. I have been reading my nigger.
Starting point is 01:36:17 I see. I am going to be a new paradigm for the next generation. Woo! Woo! I got that, hey! God damn! Hey! Hey!
Starting point is 01:36:27 Hey! Hold up! Hold up! And guess what? I learned that from my boy, TDJ. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You're watching mercy.
Starting point is 01:36:36 I did. I said pair of them? I said, ooh! I got to get that one. I know. I ain't know. Enthusiasm works. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:36:47 I've been watching them, bro. Hey, man. With that being said, shit, that's it. It's it right there. Well, we don't have to say no more. Game shit. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:36:57 This has been another episode of the 85 style show. My nigga DC is not playing with y'all. You heard it. Yes, bro. When I say, brother, it's to the point where I'm like, it's so serious when it's like, you know it's serious because I ask God to guide my steps, you feel what I'm saying? So it's like, wherever I'm at, I know for a fact, I'm like, alright, let me figure out what going on. Because if my feet place me here, I need to know what going on.
Starting point is 01:37:22 You see what I'm saying? Right. So every time I'm like, you somebody, you're talking the same shit? You get on the phone, somebody from the outside, just said the same shit we just conversated on and get on another, they don't stay saying the same. I'm like, what do I need to do in order for me to, you know what I'm saying? Bet, say no more. Well, it is, man.
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