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Well, I don't know. You introduce me to brand. Yes Yes I did Jason Weaver too Because the other thing Other than you

It was smart guy Yeah That's what Jason He got Oh my eye Um Jason He did good

He's a really nice guy He's a really nice young man So is Adam I haven't seen Brendan in years I don't know what And people still ask me Who cut his head?

hair. His daddy. His daddy gave him that cut. Yeah. It reminds you that Richard Pryd joke. It gave that bold cut. Yeah. And he wouldn't let the hairdresser or there was

a barber on set. He wouldn't let him do it. He wanted the bowl for himself. Damn. He definitely made it. It was so it was so Trey fucked up. And I couldn't say nothing. because he's not my child.

That's in daddy's boy. His daddy was serious. You have no idea how serious his daddy was. That motherfucker was serious. I see. He got him in a military haircut. It's not... My dad was in the military.

That ain't got nothing to do with nothing. I don't know... I don't know what the fuck haircut that was. He made history with that one. So he was on sit. His dad stayed on sit. He was like Derek Coleman, Dad. all in the damn way.

You know what? Long as nobody cut his hair. Won't be no goddamn proud. They all right away for my boy head now. I did that. I said him on a bucket in the back yard. That's a custom cut, one of one. I had that, my dad had that.

All the little kids are going to want. We're starting at $150,000 and up. Passed that cut down through generations. I thought he was going to grow up to be a boxer with that haircut. There's got to be some kind of fight. There's got to be some kind of fight. like Tito Trinidad. That was a good-ass show, though.

That's what I said. It felt like, you know, as young black kids during their time, it felt like. They wanted them to be real disrespectful. And I said, we don't roll like that. We don't. That show and me and the boys remind me of each other because they only did like, what, one two seasons? Yeah, one season. And I was like, that.

What happened to that? They're good shows. Because they don't want black people to have dignity. What the fuck is wrong in here? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like they killed James off a good time.

I was like, exactly. A black father in the house. They don't want, they didn't want me to check the kids. Yeah, they wanted me to be reigned over. It's like, you know what, that's, so you think that, that in real life,

they wrote this real messed up script one time. And it was so messed up that the assistant had sent, The assistant to one of the directors had sent the script to my dressing room, and it was the table script. And I'm reading it, and I'm a reading, and I'm a reading, and I'm going, what the fuck? And so I read the whole script, but they don't know I read it. The writers don't know I read it.

The producers don't know I read it. So you was privy to it before? But they unleashed it. So we all got our scripts. And there's a part where it says Uncle Clemonds. He's that old fool. Jason says it. And you could tell Jason was choking up because he's not crying,

but he knew that wasn't right. Right. You don't talk about your uncle like that. And you definitely, not as a child talk about him like that. And I don't think my character would have took that shit either. Right. And he looked at me. All of the crew looked at me like, what you going to do?

And I stopped when they said something derogatory about a woman past her salad days. And I said, what in the hell? And they said, can we continue reading? And I said, we will continue reading because I'm fair. And after that table read, I said, gentlemen, I will see you in my dressing room. And I walked, and I walked ahead of them. And one of the writers says, I can't speak for everybody. Now, mind you, these are all white writers.

Right, of course. And they say, I will not be spoken to it that matter. I said, last time I checked Theo was at the top of your paycheck. And for me, that was you. And then he left. He would soon be gone. And I learned a lot from that show. If I had to do it all over again,

there's a lot of things I would do differently. But I would tell you one thing. I wouldn't have never trusted them backbiting. Uh-uh, no. I trusted people. I had no business trust. I'm walking to the devil's ground. You think that we're all black.

We should all be united, but it wasn't like that. It wasn't. Everybody had their own agenda, and I didn't take that into consideration because I used my southern sensibilities, you know, having people over dinner and barbecues. Thinking we're friends. And in real life, they're the enemy. You know, so I learned a lot, and I learned that children can be treacherous just because mine ain't don't mean everybody else's ain't.

Because Brett Butler, she said, I will never do another show with children unless they're orphans. She don't want to have parents. No. But then Brett was crazy, too. But you have to remember, I came from the 80s in stand-up. I came from the 80s. It was a different game. Y'all got it considerably easy.

There was no black wave. There was no black wave. And then when the black wave, death jamming all of that happened, I had a club on and said, you're not black enough. What the fuck? You just discovered black people. I've been black all my life. Jay Anthony Brown said that same shit.

It's, Jay, I knew Jay, Steve, Vince Champ, all events turned out to be a serial rapist. We ain't know nothing about that. What the fuck? You didn't know that, did you? Oh, man, my God.

Oh, that was fucked up the way I said that, huh? Yeah, it is. Anyway, okay. Okay. Okay. You just said it. Okay, Vince Champ, one-star search. He was very funny.

I have a little Vince Champ. I don't want to look at this. Look him up. I don't want him in my phone now what you said. Well, hold on now. Hold on. That's my algorithm. I love Vince.

He loved white women. I didn't love Vince in the carnal sense. I love Vince because of his spirit. He was very kind and sweet and handsome. He was everything. a sister would want. But they would never get it because he like white women.

Well, Vince was brilliant in the sense of he made everybody happy. But the next thing you know, he plays all these colleges in Nebraska, Iowa, you know, places that don't have black hair care products.

So anyway, we get up there and they say, Vince has been arrested, and I said, for what? You know, because we all come up, and he says, he, he, he's, they're accusing him of being a serial rapist. Well, now when you say white women, that kind of made me think about it differently.

Okay, so now, so I go, I'm not believing it. I'm not going with it. You can ask Shane for, you can ask Shane, he'll tell you. you. Jay Anthony Brown, he'll tell you, I called Jay Anthony, and I said, is this real? So they said, Ben's up. He said, yeah, it's real. They have his date book.

Wherever he played, there was a rate. And I said, damn. And he drove a white BMW in Nebraska. And I said, a brand new one, too. I said, you shouldn't have drove that. You wouldn't have got caught. because I'll be watching those criminal stuff. And I said, that was a bad move.

You'll never take your date book with you if you're raping for him. It's just a bad move. And I mean... And I'm not laughing at him because it's not funny, but somebody you know that's so sweet. You never know. That's how they always say it. You never know.

You never know. You never know. killer across the street day, but like, he was such a quiet person. He was a nice guy. He used to have ribs with this name. We used to, we used to, we used to eat ribs and listen to saucer music. And he got 14 heads in the refrigerator. He was such a nice person.

Yeah, I bet he was. I bet Vince was. He was, and they, and you know how fucked up it is? They said that he can't profit like write his story he can't profit on it

because he didn't because he not just because he did it because he can't he can't tell ain't nobody going to be able to write well that's not true

somebody could write the story but it would just put a damper on the comedy community if you wrote that yeah that's a dark that's a dark but that's a horror movie but you know what

comedy is dark. If you think about it, some of the most prolific comics had addictions. I mean, even Richard Pry, his grandma's a madam, his mama's a hoe, you know, I mean,

those are traumatic things, and comedy is like your only salvation. But see, only the comedians have to deal with the dark side of it, Not the audience. You see, they got a whole TV show called The Dark Side of Comedy. Well, they talk about the darkness that comedians go through, and this shit got serious. This ain't just no seasons.

Like, this ain't just no... You know what? Let me tell you something. If you... It's different for your generation, I think, because you guys are having... You didn't even ask me if I wanted a puff or anything. You're so selfish. You know what?

generation is fucking entitled. I'm sorry. I should have asked. I should have asked. I had to ride an act court. I fell down today. No. Yes, a big bitch fell down.

And let me tell you something, not even like an hour ago. And let me tell you something. My daughter was looking at me like, how did you get on the floor, Mom? I go, I don't know. Because you don't know.

I'm sorry. I should have asked the first black woman with her own sitcom if she wanted I did. Y'all got to shout for that. The first black woman with her own sitcom. She had Brandy and Jason, we've on that motherfucker. I didn't even know them first.

Yeah, we had your TV sign up here. Really? Which one? Jason. Jason's nice. He's a sweet boy and talented. How did you start in comedy? If I tell you this, you wouldn't believe it. I'm going to believe it.

I was a housewife. Yeah. I married a man 10 years older than me from Trinidad. So I was real fucking happy because he knew how to roll with a paper bag. God, damn, y'all smoking strong. You have to hit it. Don't pass that back this bad.

I was being polite, naked. Don't put it to you. Smoke? Right, you know, you don't want to fail. I'll say something. Now, you don't know how legendary this is, I'm telling you, I can smoke a blood. We got a thousand and one question.

We didn't even did the intro yet. I was like, right. We go in and everything. Let's see, whatever happened. You wanted to have TV stations, the TV show, can we have a 27 channel as where I'm from? I used to watch you.

Let me tell you something, baby. We didn't have but three. Shit. Let me tell you something. They were black and white. NBC, NBC, CBS. And maybe sometime if you had an antenna on top of your house, you could get,

somebody have to twist it. And you can get UGF, H. What was on there? I ain't ever had that station. Wrestling. Oh. You know. You was ABC.

I was ABC. I was the first one on the back. You were for TGIF. Yeah. Yeah. You were for TGI. It was, I started in Pasadena, Texas. Comedy?

Uh-huh. Damn. Some redneck white people sold me at Steak and Egg Kitchen. You don't belong here. And I was the first black in 20 years to work there. we didn't just happen. This isn't a happenstance. A lot of grind went into this.

So they said, you need to, you need to go to a comedy club. I said, I don't know what no goddamn comedy club is. Right. I've got four little babies. I have, I've been pregnant three times. I had twins the first times. I didn't want you thinking I was habitual.

So, anyway, I'm just laying around fucking. Anyway. You said you was a housewife, though, so it was all clicking. It's work, work, work when you're a housewife with four little people. And so we get up there and they tell me about this comedy club. I say, where is the comedy club? They said, we'll take you.

I said, well, next, when tomorrow, I'll think about going. These are the people that told you don't belong here. Oh, they meant you, I thought you meant like. They meant I don't belong here because I need to. to be doing on that stage. Oh, okay. I thought you in a black person. Who let you in here?

Listen, I thought it was she in. You said Pasoena, Texas. You don't know. Passingina, Texas used to be a sundown. Not by my eggs and grits. They used to be a sundown town. Yeah, see. They don't need to be right.

I used to work 10 to 6. 10 to 6, I used to call it the lynching hours. Damn. And two Pasadenaean policemen would always come drive by, and they come. And I wasn't far from the Clu Klux Klan building was not far from there. So what happened?

This is where your family's from. This is your family's from? Who's where in the hour ago? You got to be out there hour early. I got a clock out of hour early. You know, you know, you already know this. Front night on time. I need machine change.

I need to be out there about 4.30. You know some white men don't feel out about that. God damn it. Oh, you ain't rode by and intimidated niggas with us for three weeks. What's what's doing on, man? You know, it's laughing. You're laughing. You're laughing. I saw a white woman.

An old white woman came into the place with her family, and she saw me, and she told her family, we can't eat here. And they said, Grandma, why? And she pointed at me. And I said, well, take your rickety ass on there. Yeah, yeah. I was going to speak to your food anyway.

First off. You're fucking worthless. We did. We did right. So anyway, they took me to the comedy club and I saw these guys get on stage and it was like, it was like, it was like, I could do this, maybe. I could do it. And then I started sneaking. I changed my shift from 10 to 6 to.

two to ten so I could go to the comedy club. What year was this? Huh? What year was this? In the 80s, 83, 84. Oh, wow. So then, once I got on stage, my friends was looking, I was looking down at them talking. And I wouldn't look at the audience.

I looked at them. And I was talking about what happens at the Steak and Egg Kitchen and how a woman almost choked the death on a piece of state that was rare. And I wasn't going to help her. I wasn't. I won't stick my finger and get that meat out. Her man kept saying, darling, are you all right? And I'm just like, this motherfucker, when white people turn blue, that means bingo.

That's it. So the next thing you know, I'm hooked and I can't stop. And my husband, he came and saw me because, you know, he's from Trinidad. And, you know, he's real territorial and abusive. He said, me want to be married to a comedian, me marry one, you know. I said, well, fuck you. Y'all remember it like it was yesterday. You said it.

I hate to eat curry. You don't even know, baby. I don't fuck with curry. Let me tell you something. Somebody cooks bring some curry in here and see when I walk the fuck out. That's how real it is. I don't eat no peas and rice. None of that.

No, anyway, I'm not doing that when I go there. So he really didn't want me to, and he was going to beat it out of me. Yeah, he was a niggis, but I give as good as I get. Let me tell you something. I sit on your ass. You remember. So it was like this whole battle. Damn.

And I just couldn't stop. It was like a drug. Don't you think it's like a drug? Yes, indeed. That's for a loud, I agree. 100%. I ain't gonna lie. Sometimes you...

I used to work on Carnival Cruise line. I stopped in April. Okay? Let me just say to something. I ain't trying to be fucked up, but Carnival a ghetto motherfucking shit. Let me tell you something. Them niggas act so bad.

It made you shame to be black. I was like, you're gonna make us... They stopped playing rap on the cruise. Yeah. That's a new one. They've got to turn these niggas down. Let me tell you something. Them niggas get some...

And it's not the... It's not the... black people. It ain't. It's black people who ain't never been nowhere for real. Because like the black people who go on cruises, that's like they first time venturing our travel world. I don't blame them though.

I know they don't know no better. I know they don't. I know they don't. My dad was in the military. I lived in Japan for three and a half years. I got a sister that was born in Panama. I mean, I've traveled even as a child. And

it's true it's because my daddy was in the military. but still a bitch went somewhere. A bitch saw something. And black people, we're not exposing our childrenness. And when you get on the ship, could you act like you got some sense? It's already scary. I know you sold some of your stamps off your E.PT card.

But bitch, act like you know. It's $79 to get on a carnival cruise. That's why. Since carnival made it cheaper. That's what happened. I didn't know. You get on a coupon. They can get on a carnival cruise.

I ain't never been on that. I don't fuck with all that water. Okay, let me just say this. You sound like my brother. I don't fuck with that. It's just so much water. I said, you ain't swimming in it. You just want it.

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When you're on the water, it can be so peaceful and you can gather your thoughts. Yeah. You know, and if you got some weed and you brave, smoke it if you got it, but just let me say this to you. I've seen the Bahamian police come on the ship and grab somebody off of it. I said, well, what did they do? I asked Bill, I said, well, what do they do in foreign black years?

Your bus rocks, your bus rocks. I go, what the fuck is buss and rocks? What is that your punishment? Just buss and rocks open. Bus and rocks. For how long? For the longer you there. Or day.

Or day for how long? for how long hell. That's what I'm talking about. For your sentence. You was on international waters. I keep trying to tell people, don't bring no motherfucking drugs on the... This dude, they busted.

He would not... Okay, let me tell you. The first time I knew he was going to be trouble because he looked wild. You know when some people look grimy like they... Like they've been to jail before. Not that I ain't been,

but I'm just saying. This... This nigga looked like he was up to something. I love my people and I love my brothers. But, you know, I, I did. He looked like suspicion. Okay. So, this guy after the show,

white boy says, you want to snort some coke? And I said, no. Because that's not a good drug to do on the ship. He just asked you like that? Yeah, my. Just walk him to you, want to snitch some good? No, we were talking because I really liked your show

Dada, da da da da da da that you want to do a line? No, I don't. He's snuck it in there. No. You're flurring this motherfucker. You want to lie under this a little bit more? Cocaine is like, that's a fuck drug. You got to have somebody to fuck or it doesn't mean anything.

Anyway, so I thought, I said, where did you get Coke from? And I'm thinking in my head, I didn't ask him, but I knew. And so the next thing we get to Jamaica and he said, I'm going to the hood. I'm watching him. I'm down below. I'm going to the hood. And I thought to myself,

didn't I just say black people, don't go to the hood in Jamaica. You know why? Because you got a perfectly good hood at home. Why would you go there? And I said, not to mention, it's nothing in it but a dog and a goat, really. I've been there.

So I'm not saying I bought drugs, I'm just saying. Yeah, I understand. So Homeboy, he goes, and we got to go through the metal detector when you come back off the island. You go in, okay, he got them doctor shorts on, right? And those little metal buttons, so they go off. And I'm nosy because I want to see. He had the shit in their pockets. He had a half an ounce of weed in his pocket.

I ain't down a bitch. Okay, you could have put it in your dick. Nobody would have been none to wiser. But no, Mr. Brilliant. So we get up there, and the next thing you know, for some reason they say, the maid want to clean the room. He said, I don't want the maid, but you didn't let the maid clean yesterday

the day before. They will need to clean the room. He won't open the room. Security come. Won't open the room. Going too much. The captain called him and said, we're going to bring the dogs in. and that's real.

And the next thing you know, he opened the door and they found black tar heroin, cocaine, roofies, Xanax, all kind of drugs. He was supplying them all over them. And who's going to be shooting up heroin on the buck?

Yes, she is. You'll find somebody. Let's take time. He didn't just go get that shit for nothing. Somebody didn't get that shit for nothing. Hey, man. If you can get some heroin. Somebody on the ground.

I'm not saying you doing your name. But if you just so happen to run up on some black tar harry. Everybody at the buffet and like, I'm just talking all this is a fool. I ain't saying that bad, man. But I can help you get rid of it. The Bahamian police came and got him and shackled him and took him off the boat.

And I thought to myself, that is so fucked up. That is so fucked. I went out how long they gave him. I don't know, but I know one thing. Bus and rocks. You had to have them. Bus and rocks. And not to mention, and I'm not being a bitch.

I'm just saying, when they used to have this commercial when I was young girl, when you go to their country, their laws are different from ours. I can't even tell that story. Yeah.

They'll cut your fucking head off over some of the hood. Few little drugs. They're ready to kill you. Yeah, you don't need to do that. No, we don't tell it. Don't tell it. We went to camera go out. We were talking about. So you was in Pasadena,

did you, you went to L.A. from Texas? No, no. I went all over the country. I was a road warrior. Okay. I was doing all kinds of shows everywhere. You had to be, before this happened. You came up with Roseanne and all of them.

Brett Butler, all of them. I used to love her show, too. The white lady with the deep voice. What's on that? I forgot the name of it. Well, that's not good. That's not helpful. I can't remember all that shit.

The first white show with Mr. Bean. Really? My first white show with Mr. Bean. I felt that like that was... We didn't have nothing but white shows. You know what I'm saying? You used to come on late night on HBO some nights. Yeah.

And I used to watch that shit. And that was, to be honest, now that I think about it, that's what taught me how to make people laugh without opening my mouth. Because he didn't talk. I used to love Jonathan. winners. He was funny. Damn, I ain't never heard of that. Heard him. I'm being honest.

I know. How old are you? 38. I'm 68. Yes. Yes. I see you. Yeah, me 68. Yeah, my birthday, I'd be 69 November the 20th. That's what you. I'm a Scorpio. There's something wrong with us. I think

Scorpio's are, we have a loving heart. When we love you, we love you. but when we hate you, it's like forever because we're grudge holders. And if we can burn your house now with you in it, we will. I'll board that bitch up. We will.

I put boards on the window. If you see... And put gas through the water pipes. You see. Put gas on in the sprinkler system. Put gas in the sprinkles system. The gas shoot all around the bitch. You don't even know it.

Bollicably. You see five episodes to snap, you ditch, maybe I can get away with it. No, you can't. I don't watch all that, because I'll fuck around and try some shit. No, no, let me tell you something. You wouldn't. Well, maybe I wanted to my ex-husband. I just...

The one who said, me, no married, no kid. Yeah, let me tell you something. I didn't... I love that man. You ever love... No, you haven't loved a man. No, I haven't. If I did, I ain't going to say you.

I'm letting you know right now no, I have not. But I have loved somebody who fucked me over. Let me tell you. I used to love my husband so deep. My aunt would say, here come your God.

I loved everything about him. Did you all break up that night when he told you he didn't want to be no car? No, but it wasn't too long. Damn. And I gave him custody of all four of the children. And let me just say Is that camera on?

Oh, no. Okay, let me. I'm gonna say this to women, sisters, especially black women. I'm not burning my nails trying to hold onto that and relight. Me, you ain't worry about it. Ain't got no nails, that's for me. Let me just say this. I ain't trying to tell you about your business or none of that.

But since I'm in the vicinity, just let me say this. If your man wants to see his children, But he don't want to mess with you. You should never stop him from seeing his children. And if you are smart and not trying to seek revenge, let that motherfucker have custody of those children. And he will see what you've been going through. Damn. I lie.

If you could lay down your body with that man and give birth to his child, give him his children and you, I paid child support. Well, I know you was on TV, and don't digger for the last you to get away with it. She, I had your hands for God, he said she got branded and Jason Weaver. She's making a band. And I got the kids.

She got a big deal up there at ABC, man. And I'm saying, I'm done now at the plant, at the bread plant, making some things out. You make way more money than me, man. You know, me and my children need. $3,000 plus life insurance. She gets 50 episodes. So your show were really based

sort of kind of on your life. Kind of sort of, but... Can you have four kids on the episode? I have four kids on the show. I had three boys and a girl. Is that how many kids? No, I have a set of twin girls, Magdal and Median,

and I had Adam and Sergio later. And I don't regret them at all. but motherhood sucks. I'm going to tell you that. And grandma, being grandma, it's like a reprieve. It's not, it's not that way. Let me get either in with your motherfucking ass. I'm going to sugar these bitches up and send them back home.

Yay! Swing. Anyway, so, being mother. See, when you have twins, I have a dear friend. She has twin boys. She said, and we were fussing about our children, she said, you had the good twin and that other motherfucker. I had the other, I had, Medea lives here,

and she's a good girl. She's a good woman and a minister. I don't know how I did that. And Magdalene is amazing Yeah, watch it, motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? You know who you got to watch. You have children? Not yet.

No, shit, I want them. No, nigga, you won't sleep. That's what you are. You're going to miss sleep like a motherfucker. You don't even know. I didn't even know. I slept so hard one time. I slept three days.

I didn't even know. But what day is it? They said, where am I? Grandma, you've been asleep just Friday. Damn. You've been sleep since Tuesday, Grandma. Stop smoking weed. And like grandparents are being used to be not just their children's babysitters, but to, but to raise their children.

This past year, I have. five children in my house and I don't even like them. You know what I'm saying? You do know this man. I know them. I know them, but, you know, if you was going to say, do you like them?

All five of them at once. You're like, I love you, but I don't like you. Now you got a smoking weed outside, car you at home? No, I lock my door. Hot box. I'm going in my room I'm going to my room

I'm spray osium spray that shit You're like you're You're real My kids are real My kids don't You know about OZE This how real I am

My daughter Magdalene That's the first twin She says Mom is that your first joint And this is the morning This is your first joint I said no I said why

She said I'll come back When you're on your second one What you mean about it She means I'll be really good and happy. Oh, so you got to throw out in the morning. I'm like, let me tell you something. I was living in L.A., and I think my children

became the most spoiled then because you want to, I don't know, my mother said you're giving them too much. And I wanted to know every motherfucking thing because these are my children. And she was right. You gave them too much. gave him too much I mean

you're trying to make her for the mistime and you had it my daughters in my children they were talking and they said you remember how

we used to play mom and dad against each other and I'm like what the fuck is this my see what I do

yeah what I do you would be on this I'd be on this tirade about you don't ever call me you don't ever ask me how I'm doing

And I'll tell you something. I'll just go on this. All you do is want stuff, one stuff. And so they would pass the phone to each other and go, where is she? She says, she's at the ungrateful part and we're breaking her heart. Okay. No, Mom. And they were just passing it down.

And I said, that is the saddest thing. I feel so fucked. So how do they happen to you being on TV? Like, their mama on ABC, one of the biggest. stations. My son turned the hose on the inquirer. They used to come to the house. Yeah, they was looking they was looking for something and it was cool look bitch I don't care I don't care. I'm living my life

my I told them that this was a gift and that bragging or being boastful is not cool. It's not cool because you ain't told that joke to get here and you need to mind your peas and cues

you know, even like when they were little and I was doing Thea, I said, well Magdal and Medea and Adam and Sergio, you saw a mama go to bed. They were taught to just go with it.

just go with it it's mom's job it's mom's job that's what it is it's a job and you know one thing Michael Jackson said

I didn't change the people around me change yeah my family don't even like me and motherfuckers just loving me now anyway

that's no but like I was saying I digress I do that a lot I digress I need to take something So I got a question. Who used to be stealing jokes back then?

Oh, my God. No. That's the idea. Ollie Joe Prater. Y'all don't know about him. Look him up. Ollie Joe was tell you he's going to steal your joke. God damn.

And you know what's funny? He did your joke better than you did. Oh, he was going to last the hill. This is the new generation. He's a cold motherfucker, man. Hey, man, Holly Joe's a cold dick. Watch this. Again.

You imagine waiting on them to call your name and the nigger could go up before you and rip with your shit and wait better than you would. You wouldn't even know, let me tell you something. There are some comics. You know who else used to do it? Robert Williams, there are certain comments that we were going to say.

Robert Williams was still jokes. And you know what? It's fucked up. He would do it better than you did it. And it is fucked up. But my things, my thoughts are, Charlie, I can't remember his name.

Damn it. There was a comic that he said, Tishon Shannon, he wrote for Saturday Night Live, he said she can say anything and they'll laugh. And he goes, go up there and tell them, you heard Reagan was a shit. And then tell them, I don't know why. Nancy told me that.

It was like having a little sister and teaching her cuss words. No, it just, man, you could, those, you could say anything. Okay. And he told her just go say that. And I got to stay, and I wouldn't say it. And everybody busted out laughing. And where were you? In Pasadena, Texas.

I would say things to white people. And my mom would go, Dia, don't be so hard on white people. And I go, sometimes it, you know, I couldn't. I was with a comic and he was playing Louis Farrakhan speeches in the car. This is when I was on the road. You were angry when it's a cold-naker guy. And I was in Birmingham.

Oh, boy, you were angry when y'all pulled it up. Fairtime audio is crazy. Let me tell you. On the tape. I was not going to be good, serious. What did you? This was in the early 90s. Let me tell you something.

And there's this place called the beauty salon called Sharon's stone or something over there across from the hotel. They used to turn into the mall and stuff. And I went in there and my nails were longer than they are now. And I said, I like to get my nails done. And they looked at them like they were a foreign creature. And they go, oh, we don't do that. And I got, oh, oh, bitch, it's like that. Right.

Oh, it's like that. Okay, cool. Okay, so when I got on stage, I roasted that bitch's ass. I roasted her ass. I didn't give her two fucks. I said, so the white devil, she didn't want him. And the guy said, see, you know what? Maybe we shouldn't listen to Farrakhan when we're driving.

You didn't have to my white devil. Eric kind of had you hyped up. The white devil didn't want to do my nails. The enemy, didn't want to do my nail. But they're the ones that nailed Jesus to the cross. Nams nails like, they're all in no whiteboard and no shit about it.

Oh, man, we're going to do that. Speaking of nail, like the ones they put through Jesus head, but we're not going to talk about that. It's crazy. Do you guys know how long it's been since I talked to comics? Hello. It's been since April.

I mean, like laugh and be around creative people. Because I don't know the motherfuckers. I left L.A. and moved back home to take care of my mother, which you all should do no matter how much of a bitch your mom is. Okay, suck it up, bitches. Okay, so look.

I ain't going to let you hit mom with you. I wouldn't mind, though. Anyway, let me just say this to you. When you have to care for your mother, I left L.A. because my mother was ill. And my sister said,

and this is the words that just triggered something in me. We'll put her in a home. You ain't putting my mama nowhere. No, you're not. We're in the fight. So I flew from L.A., packed up my house, like the Beverly Hills, and moved to Victoria, Texas, which was not cool. But Cedric the entertainer came.

So that was a cool thing for me. But I have allergies. Yeah. Yeah. Victoria. It's a big town. It's a big town in Houston. Okay.

It's like here and then San Antonio's over here. Austin's over here and Houston's over here. You're in the middle. Victoria, it's in the middle, yeah. And I did a comedy show there at the community center. And it was the first time black swan. whites and Latinos all got together in that town and came to see the show. Oh, you bring me.

And that was so fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah, it was. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we've got some incredible guests like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she? She is not with a thing.

Okay, great, great, great way to start. So this is a great beginning and hopefully you'll be able to, I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seifred. life is so short. If you feel something like that, you have that fire in you for this experience. It's not for a guy. It's for the experience of being in love. And like, it's bigger than a guy.

Elizabeth Olson. I love swimming naked so much. And I know you love taking pictures of yourself naked. I love to be naked. I just want to be in my brown underwear all the time. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me? Are you a boy or girl?

Oh, my God. That's so funny. I love it. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butcher it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up is basically like Doris Day. Right? No, I turn into Be Arthur.

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and start understanding what's underneath, listen to the mailroom on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. Now, you just got to understand this, too. We don't get to see a lot of 69-year-old Black people just talk unfiltered. For real. So it's still a like a shock factor to it.

Like, oh, this is the shit we been. No, because it's like with the social media now. Yeah. For real media now, we don't get to see like real black people talk shit. Like when we were growing up. Like you were saying, when freedom of speech was really free. Sometimes, sometimes. You just said the L.

A few minutes ago. You just said F word a few males ago. Just so funny. Why the fuck not? I mean, really. Look at me, I'm six, almost 69 years old. I should be able to say, let me tell you something. When you get older, you get to do shit.

You get to tell, you know what? You don't look at your little grandson that's two and go, you know what, I will fuck you up. I will, you need to know that going in here. Grandma love you. I'm going to buy you a popsicle and shit. But don't get it twisted. Grandma will fuck you up because we got trees in the backyard. Switch time.

You don't. You should be able to say whatever you feel. You still use switches? Oh, I don't use switches on them. I just got a gun. And I think that's best. Real sweet. I think that when you show a gun and a pit bull to make a motherfucking thing,

You have a big one. No, I don't have to. I don't put it past you. Raising their grandkids like a drug king. You have to get kids. You love you on Comic View when you was the judge. Yeah. I love it.

Yeah, shit. That was some of the best seasons. I had fun doing that, Renaudo Ray and shit. Rinaldo was a sweet man. Renaldo Ray. Yeah. He was a sweet man. It was so many comics.

You don't know this. There used to be a newspaper for comedians called Just for Labs. And it told you all the comedy clubs, right? And it showed you who was playing for a month. Oh, yeah. And you would know people

that was in that town, you would go there and perform. It was just... That's the first time I ever heard that. Yeah. I wish there was a Just for Labs now. Because we need to know where the comedy clubs are because I miss being on stage.

I do. I miss it. It's like a drug. And I can say what I want to say. I don't give a fuck about Trump. And he don't give a fuck about me. Or white people or Latino people or Asian people. He don't give a fuck about nobody. You need that money. You know what?

How much money is enough money? All of it. I have allergies. I think I'm snorting something. It's not, no, I have allergies. Is that what they call it in these days? No, let me tell you something. A line of allergies.

When cocaine came, now see, I should write a bun. Talk about it. No, tell me, before you write the book, tell us. These are all exclusive. My secret keeper. When cocaine did what now? Okay, let me say, when cocaine started getting prevalent, started getting real, it was powder.

Now, you have to know that powder, all the white people did powder. black people smoking rock they were basing okay free base which is it which is the purest form

if you're gonna do it I'm just saying not that I know I'm just saying what they say free base will purifying the cocaine yes I don't see how you purify crack

but but exactly when you free base it never mind anyway I'm not going fucking there with cheese I mean we don't need to

because we don't know little boy you don't know what this little boy them seems You don't know what this old woman is done. I got sin on Rolodex. I got archive for sin.

You got to go in the cave and see some of my sins. Okay, so you got all these Bill Higgs, Riley Barber, all of them. They're snorting. Who? You know? Pepperone. He wants some pepperon.

He wants some pepperon. pepperoni. And so, I'm high. I don't care. You're old enough to be high. All of these white- I'm getting this with me, not you. Charlie Shannon, all of them, you know, Charlie Shannon didn't and fuck with it, but Tishon, he did it every now and then. These comics, they were snorting Coke and having a great old time. I didn't know about any of this. I knew they were snorting. but I didn't know what was the deal. Then I had a friend. It was like two or three in the morning.

He came in. Then you got $20. Oh yeah, he would fuck up. I said, let me wash your feet. Let me wash my feet. And I said, what the fuck? So I said Robert, he goes, yeah, let me wash my feet. He's trying to wash your feet for $20?

No, he washed his feet. I'm like, this is too early in the morning for this shit. So he washed his feet. He said, I just need $20. I said, okay, I gave me $20. And he left the house. And he's just fucking funny because he's scurred. He's scared away like a squirrel.

And I didn't. And then I realized. That was your first experience with a crack to you. That he was, that he was getting. And then I had another. Oh, he was gay. No, he wasn't gay. Oh, he's on crack.

He was on crack. Yeah, yeah. And then. I know that was your first experience with a crackhead. He's like, why'd he do that? He had him for $20 an ass watch his feet. That's so crazy. He could have took a whole shower,

then got in the shower and just watched his feet. But I bet his reason for needing to wash his feet. What type of thing? In the shower and just watch his feet. He probably needed to watch his feet real. Come on, man, let me watch my feet. I was at the gas station and the goddamn gas farm on the hook. But you don't understand.

Got gas all over my goddamn shoes and sock, man. Let me watch this shit off my feet. You don't understand. He got naked. and still only watch his feet. Everybody said, oh, watching his feet. Like, hold on, bro. Where's all by them?

I've been wearing new sandals. Oh, that damn thing. And that's what he had on. And he said that, he said, I need to wash my feet. This in Texas. Huh? This was in Texas. Uh-huh.

Yeah, that's the shit was wrong. He didn't wash my feet. It's like, dude. I didn't ask him what's wrong. I just said, okay, Robert. I never see no bird ass to watch your feet. Next thing, I know a few weeks later, I get another phone call, and it's Darren, and he says, Thia, guess what?

If I tell you something, you ain't going to tell nobody. I said, I ain't going to tell. But I'm going to tell now because I'm 69. What the fuck you're going to do? They're going to crack anyway. He said, Thia, I smoked crack for the first time. That shit hit him. And I said, what was it like?

He said the whole time I was smoking, I was thinking, how could I get some more? Yep, that's what to do you? I said, damn. Okay. And also, do you have $20? If you don't mind about also go out of my feet. If I can just get $20, just get my feet. This is my right foot, actually.

I don't even need my left for, right foot. I don't know what going on right foot dirty. I just need to let me get some of the craziest experiences with people. And it's all through comedy. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't trade it. for nothing in the world. Because how long do you think you can sit around

and not do nothing? I don't know. Crackheads do a lot. Crackheads are busy. They do busy work. You know how you have to look like you working when you're on your job when you really ain't got shit to do?

Crackhead really would be working. Crackheads make over $70,000 a year. I know. But they just spend $75. $5,000. I know. Let me tell you something. I have seen some of the way.

But that's how the evolution of cocaine was in the comedy community. And people were doing that. I lost a gig because Mark Wilkes, he wanted to do, play golf with Flato. And the, but they were really going to be doing Coke. Oh, we can. So how you lose it, though? Because I had the gig, and he wanted to give Mark my gig.

Oh, man. Because they were snorting. He lost it overcoat. Because they were snort, and they were doing it. I ain't got no money, but I got show Saturday. You can do about 30 minutes. I know I can tell you stories all day long, because some of the, some of it, I know,

I'm not going to say Robert, this comic named Robert. You just said everybody else name. You just said, Dillon, Robert. You're named every white name. We're at the Montreal Comedy Festival. when it was important. I don't think any people still working anywhere are they?

Robert, you passed. Oh, well, you can say it. You want to say. Okay, so he's the only person we were all going to be together. Tim Allen, Ray Travis, Uncle Lair,

what's his name? You got a good-ass memory. What? Because I don't know of these people. You don't know hit your peers, man. Before, I mean, you have to know. He would need, loathe and got down who else?

They were all. Him the food man, Taylor. Ah. You know what? I bet you don't, don't, uh, I bet you never forgot, like when you first got that call or notification about your TV show. Like, how did you, how did they go?

No, how did you feel about how did they come about? I was in Huntsville, Alabama when I got the call. Shut out, working at comedy club. And they said, um, Thea, I said,

yeah. And he says, they're gonna do the show. And I said, what, what are we gonna call it? They said, Thea.

Damn. So you knew it was in the works. I knew they wanted to meet me. I knew they wanted to watch me. Do stand up. Because if you remember, Everybody loves Raymond, Seinfeld. All of them.

That was back when people were getting deals off. They were retooled five times. I think three or, no, maybe three or four. Because his ratings weren't good at first, and they just kept retooling it until it got clicked. That's the shit they would never do for a black show. Hell no. If you want to see racism up close and personal,

go to Hollywood. You'll see it. That bitch is shining like a flag. It's like... Also Mississippi. Oh, hell, it's always Mississippi. It's a flag over there, too. Let me tell you something. Mississippi is... You would think they would get it together. I'm sorry.

Anyway. I'm just warning. This is let you know. Yeah, I just let you know. Mississippi, I just, you know, I'm going to be honest with you, it's so ridiculous to have all that hate and all that foolishness. But it's nothing new. It's nothing new. I know what the color water fountain look like. I know why I had to sit upstairs in the movie theater. You drive two hours outside of Atlanta, too. I knew. And you know what? White people are They don't get it. They don't got to get it.

They're chilling. The deal is this. They know their numbers are dwindling. You know, their numbers are dwindling. And you elected a man that don't give a fuck about you. And poor white people, they so hopeful. They're so hopeful. He's going to do, he's going to, he's going to fuck you in the ass.

And he's not even going to spit. Because he's a soulless entity. He doesn't believe in God. He's a nitwit, and you're a nitwit for voting for him. There's nothing he could ever tell me that I would go, oh, wow, he's telling the truth. Yeah, fuck you. That's just me. not be everybody.

Are any of your shows on streaming? Like your show is on any streaming platform now? I wish it was. Got to get it on there. Nope. Because you know what? Another thing is, ABC wanted to buy Fia.

Oh, so you? They wanted to buy, no, not buy me, the show. No what I'm saying, you own? I don't own the show. The motherfucker crazy, man. You know what I'm saying? So she owned the show. No, I didn't own the show.

Oh, okay. You know a Negro have to do Bill Cosby on the network. See what I'm saying? You can be small, you can be large. You just get fucked everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I learned a lot about how they think about. I knew I was in trouble.

Theo was in trouble the show. I was in trouble when I talked to Bill Cosby. Oh, shit. Wait a minute. Exclusive. You ate the pudding. Yes, indeed. Let me tell you something.

I was supposed to do David Letterman and Bill Cosby was on the same night and he kept talking so he kept talking during my part so I didn't get to go on. So he told Bill told David you better

bring her on tomorrow. I'm sorry that I, you know, he didn't say sorry but you know he had knowledge that I was back there. So anyway he sat down and he talked to me in the green room. He took out one of the biggest cigars and tried to stick it in my ass, but I shot it. I'm going to ask you whether the kind of you smoke or wasn't it's something else

girl. So anyway. So I got you, I got you a spider to show tomorrow. And he sat in there and he was talking and he told his assistant, white girl, leave. And he started breaking it down to me. I had, because I, in my mind, I had Bill Cosby's director. I had his writer. I had his producer. I had, even the assistant, um, the assistant to the director was from Cosby. I had, I had, I had it.

You can't be in a single mark. When he broke it down to me, I knew I was sunk. What did you say? He told me that Bernie Kukov only has one script in him. He told me Jay Sandruff, he'll go along to get along. He told me everything. He told me the shit I just looked at him. He said they do a drive by us.

they know nothing about us. They do a drive-by, and I said, oh, man. I thought he was hating. Yeah, I was just like this. And he talked about Lisa and Bonnet and stuff, and I'll just let that out. I'm going to leave that alone. Oh, really?

Yes, motherfucker, I said. I mean, you didn't leave alone. Look, you go on. I just leave me alone, damn it. Motherfucker. And I meant that in a loving, gentle way. I appreciate being called. a motherfucker about this.

What you're talking about? It's your great grandma called me a motherfucker. I remember back in 2010 that she was just as spicy she wanted to me. It was way more motherfuckers than it is now.

You very rarely see a motherfucker. Every night and then you see a motherfucker, a lot of them at least. Back in them days, there was a lot more motherfuckers to see.

Everyone. So you said you had all kinds of people and you thought that was it? I thought if I had his team, in my mind, if I had his team, I couldn't go wrong. I feel the same way. Wrong.

It was so fucked up. I almost punched somebody. It was just a, you know what? And you know what's funny? White people fight different. Oh, of course. They discussed things. And he bought me a bottle of Chanel.

Andrew Suskind, and I bought him a bottle of Glenn Fiddish. And we gave each other some kind of gifts, like a truce gift or some shit. And he said he wanted to fire Mary Ellen Jones. And I said, if you fire her, you're going to go right behind her. He says, I don't like her. And, you know, it's the first time a white man told me about some black person, and he was right.

He was right. Damn. She was a colic and I was sitting up there and she had talked, could you talk, you know, and I stood up for her

and that bitch stabbed me in the back like I didn't do shit. I said, this is how Jesus felt. This bitch didn't even kiss me. I don't even know. But everything Bill Cosby said about them was true.

And I just, I don't know what, Mama, I was just so glad my dream, you know? It wasn't their dream. It was my dream. And they were fucking it up.

But if I was going to do another show, bad needs and all, I wanted to be where I'd be a grandmother and tell children the truth. Don't nobody really like you. Some days your mama don't even fucking like you. She love your monkey ass,

but she don't like you. Sometimes she'd be like, why did I fuck your daddy on Wednesday? You need to be on that box. You know what I'm saying? I mean, the truth is that there are days

if you're a parent, you don't like your children. You don't like them motherfuckers. You ever been around a two and a three-year-old? Motherfuckers just keep fucking up shit. You keep telling them, don't do that, don't do that.

And the motherfucker, keep doing shit. And if you beat them, You're scared you're going to knock them unconscious, and you know you're going to go to jail for that. I'm already black, so you know what I'm saying? And white people would be pretending like they care about children that get beat to death. But anyway, sometimes your children,

and if you have teenage girls, sometimes, Magdalene made me so mad one time. They're going to be mad when they see this year. I don't get a fuck. What are you going to do with my? What's you going to do? Maglan put me in a home because I better watch her. But anyway, I'll shoot that.

Let me tell you, Sam. Mommy's playing, baby. Mommy's playing. No. So anyway, let me say this. There's something about a teenage girl that will make you go to jail. Because they got an attitude, they got a period. and they think they so fucking slick.

Arkella learned a hard way. I know that's right. Because he wouldn't, I ain't going to lie to you. I wouldn't let my children fuck with Art Kelly. But then again, my children kind of thuggish, you know what I'm saying? You're not thuggish. My children, when they were younger, they were rough, a little rough. Sarah Adam.

Adam's such a sweet boy. He's a good boy. He's sensitive. Kelly had some girls up in there, some basketball jerse and shit. I don't care. You must be dreaming. Rough little girls in there. That West Indian, when boys used to come by, he sharpened his machete and shit.

That's not cool. You have machetes in your house? West Indian. He was standing there. They're born with a machete. Where you're going, boy? Where you're going to tick you? My daughter is he'll call him.

He's a mom. He up here. I'm just a machete. I go, I know he's, honey. That's good. And neither one of my children daughters have any children. Oh, damn.

Because you know why? The machete. We fucking motherfuckers up on the Vidal plantation. We don't want no stray spulins coming up in here. In that, when did get pregnant there'd be some shit. The boys fucking get somebody pregnant. That's not my bad.

You know what I'm saying? So how many grandkids are outside the house? Five. Okay. And four adopted. That's nine. And none of them fuck with me. I know.

Uh-uh. What kind of grandma are you? I don't like to be fucked with. I'm the kind of grandma that needs to be high. Just the four-yo is my baby. I love him. E.J., I love E.J. You don't give him a shit, do you?

I do love him? No, but you're gonna give her shit. You just told her about who you're favorite. Fuck the other eight. Yeah. Well, okay. When you were in the play with y'all, y'all, y'all you know what my favorite is.

He didn't want to get everything. He said getting everything. Don't even worry about being the wheel. He don't know a got name. E.J., fuck the rest of y'all. Know to your other grandma. He's that. He's a.

Moving right along. He even tells his other grandma. Grandma Thia's my grandma. And I don't want, I'm not. I'm not supposed to say that shit. I'm not supposed to like, bitch! No, anyway.

That's fucked up. Sometimes grandma's being competition and they don't know they are. I would hate to see my grandma on a podcast saying this. Really? You know who my favorite is. Grandma, what the fuck?

Come on my mom are you to drink? No, would you? I know, you know what? My daughter says that I am not the grandmother that her grandmother was to her. And I said, you ain't the daughter I was to her. What are you saying? Y'all family having grandma off.

You know what, though? My mother baked cookies. I baked for my children. My grandchildren. You know, I made meatloaf with them. No, we need cooking. Wrapped in bacon

and you know. Meatloaf wrapped in bacon. You're trying to get them a stroke. What's he called that? A stroke. Shit. It's yummy as hell though.

And then this is why the boys like to do the cooking and I do let them cook. My granddaughter, Zai, I love Zai. She's a teenage

girl. And, you know, they get these moods that just aren't cool. Teenage girls get that mood. How they're in your show? Can I get some water, please? Yeah. My grandchildren were laughing in a room.

And my daughter-in-law, thank you so much. My daughter-in-law, she kept saying, And what are they laughing about? And they had pulled up me on YouTube. And, you know, that's the damnedest thing. And so, I don't know if you ever saw it, but I used to do this joke about teaching women how to suck a deck. Oh, Lord.

You might need to start back. No, I ain't. I'm sorry. Anyway, so my sons, my sons. My son's ain't. Good word. Great joke. He might need to start back.

You do know this is the YouTube still pop. Okay, okay. So my sons were in the audience, and I stuck the whole mic in my mouth. And my son, Sergio, he, don't be mad because I'm proficient. Anyway, so my son, Sergio is looking at me. You were a headline to right.

Then nobody had to go behind you. Yeah, I was saying nobody had to go behind you. And his teammate said, oh my God, he said, your mom is off the chain. And my son said, say something else about my mom. He said, did you just see her put the mic in her mouth? He said, say something else. And I was like, so my two boys sat me down. And they said, Mom, we need to talk to you about something.

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You don't think nobody... But wait, life turns around. My grandchildren, once they say so, my grandson, Grandma, we need to talk to you. I said, what? You can't keep doing that dick-sucking joke. You can't keep doing that dick-sucking joke. Come on, the whole microphone.

You in the church, Grandma. Wait, man, Marcia told me, he said, Grandma, that was, that we saw what you did. And I kept my word to my sons. I said, I would never do it again. But my grandsons, they said, Grandma, that wasn't right. I said, we saw what you did. And I said, what saw did you did, saw me do?

And they say, you know. I said, I said, Grandma's told your daddy said we would never do that again and Grandma hasn't done it again. One day Grandma gonna get real. Listen, it's time to be real. Grandma, then sucked a few dick.

I mean, it ain't nothing to have. This ain't nothing to have. I start this whole family. And how they do it without fucking dick. I start this whole family Wouldn't we know y'all if he wasn't going to be my grandson about sex And my younger grandson said I don't want to hear about it from you Because you probably didn't deliver it right

I did deliver it Okay Okay I told him that this is how it started He'll tell this girl he called his baby cousin This is my daughter, this is my daughter. and I take care of... You said he was a cold who?

His baby cousin. He was holding his baby cousin. Oh, he was holding him. Holding them. Oh, okay. He said, and I can't wait. And I take care of my baby. I can't wait to make love to you.

And so I'm on the plane, and Sergio calls me, he said, let me tell you about what your grandson did. And he said, he's telling this girl he wanted to make love to her. and I said, what? I said, that's crazy shit. Excuse me. So I say, I'm coming over there. So they say, okay, I go over there.

I see everybody, you know, because Sergio's the party house, the Kool-Aid house. I say, Uh, Jay, what's making love? Uh. I said, tell grandma what's making love. Because that's my grandma, boys. Tell grandma what's making love.

Well, grandma, that's when you take your thing. Oh, no. Well, you know, I said, okay, let me, do you know how babies get it right? Kind of. I said, okay, let me break it down for you. And I started talking about the eggs. I said, and even that little cum, that pre-cum that comes out your dick, that makes a baby too.

Your grandma, my grandma said, ball you want to. It would be crazy. I'm smoking with Grandma. And anytime anything go wrong on calling Grandma. Fuck, call him on. And I told him, and I said, and let me tell you something else. You need to stop jacking off in the bump beds because your brother thinks is a ghost

and you're scaring the fuck out of him. You need to, I said, and I told him, I said, let me just say this to you. Do not jack off in the bunk bed, bro. How are you going to take a shot? How hard you going? You just gotta be going, nigga, you can't jack off in the shower.

Not that I know, but I'm just saying, but you can. But I think you do. No, I'm just, you got out. His grandpa jacked off, his great-grandpa jacked off, your daddy jacks off. A long line of jacks off. I said, it's a long, I mean, all you can do it. But you need to stop doing it in the bump beds

because Dietrich is scared. With your brother, he and it. Ooh. You jack-knit with your brother. I just, It's a ghost in here. That's gotta be the worst, man. You gotta share a room with your brother.

That won't stop jacking off. That's a fucked up situation. That's a lot, man. That's trauma. That's traumatic experience. You know the top bunk, the whole bunk bin, shit. Look, what the fuck is going on up there?

I know they don't. They don't know. Please, grandma, don't tell us. I don't know about what their grown-in-a-tell don't to stop beating their dick. I said, you- I said, you-ha-old. I'm not coming over your house, she ain't telling her to stop.

She said stop beating her on the butt bed. But I don't want to talk my grandma about beat my dick. I ain't coming over that number. I don't care what you're cool. I would talk about pre-cum, but shit, that's where we at. Well, yeah, you know. Because your grandma ain't gonna hide it. Yeah, grandma, yeah.

And she's gonna say it. In front of head about it. What you better do? Go back in there and play with your dick again. You gotta take love to your dick, huh? Your mama says she's been hard and white. Stop jacking up in the bump head. He's shaking your brother.

He can't sleep at that. He can't sleep at all that house. Hold on. He brought it back there playing with the dick. He ain't back that bathing. I'm scared to go in there because you know. You know how he's been doing with that dick in there. Well, they don't let shit go.

You go in there and put your clothes. He's going to jack off in that. He ain't taking up your stuff. There you know. It's crunchy-ass socks. You just say it. Baby, you can come in here and eat. You got time to play with your dick later on.

I ain't nothing in my fault. I don't do that. This is my life. That's for serious killers. You got too many grandkids. How many grand boys you got? My necklace. You just kind of look at them and just go, you know what?

You can tell when boys are having sex because they just be walked around with their chest puffed out. But it's girls, when you, think when they got it, when they've been given penis, you hope it's not mediocre, you know what I'm saying? What do you mean?

Because some men are mediocre. We're not going to do that. I never fucked teenage boys when I was young. I fucked their dad's. Oh, wait, wait, wait, you know.

I fuck their daddies because they had their own car. I don't mean, why why did I fuck somebody somebody got to borrow a car? Oh, man. It's a different size. You know, different era, man. It was like that.

Especially at being a conger people. So, you know what you? Your daddy's 16 years older than your mom. You know, my mother and father are no longer with us, so they didn't hear me say that. But they know me. There's no time. I mean, that's how it was back then.

So you didn't want to know your own picture? You didn't have no young birthday at all. I mean, talking about back then shit. It used to be niggas picking up girls from the school when I was in school. I, oh, I'm. You know, we ain't going to do that. My boyfriend bought my school clothes. What are you talking about?

Jesus. We're going to do that. Different error. You know what? I just say to this. The show was up with. Okay, I'm sorry. We digress, and I just run.

I do that. How did you find that? I was going to ask that. Okay, I'm sorry. You have to bring me back around. I was Huntsville, Alabama, they told me. No, you was in Huntsville when you got the car that it was over with, too? No, no.

I was in New York when that happened. That was, I was, had ordered something from. Carnegie's Deli. You don't forget shit. That's a day you remember right there. She don't forget shit. I had the pastraman. No, I had turkey.

Turkey. And their sandwiches be like this. Yeah. I don't know. So anyway, you have a sandwich for four days from Carnegie's Deli. And it was like $64. So anyway. God damn.

Poor sandwich. Yeah. Yeah, it's a big sandwich. So anyway. and I had prayed and everything because I didn't want to lose my show. I didn't. So you knew this was actually...

I knew. They hadn't renewed again. They didn't renewing. And I was... Bill Cosby said it. I took it. I think I took it like a champ because I was still working.

I kept working. The show was off. I was still playing clubs and theaters and stuff. So I didn't. And I've always been like that, a workaholic like that. And then one day I said, well, what do I go now, Bernie? And he says, you go home.

Because you have to have a life. Everything is not work. But to me, everything is work. Everything is work. What is, like, this is to me like an adventure. It's like, I've got to be. I don't tell you everything. And I can't tell you everything because it would be crazy.

But it's just nice to be around creative people that are funny. And I think real. You guys get to say a lot of shit. You do. Well, somebody had to break ground, motherfucker. Wait, what do you want to do? Okay, I do say a lot of shit. And I've been blessed that people receive it.

You know what I'm saying? And when they tell you your show is over, it doesn't feel good. Because remember, the show was my name. And I had to take in for a minute. Does that mean I failed? No, it doesn't mean I fail. It means I just keep going.

And I think if we had had the U.P.N., the WB or all of those things, my show would still have been on for five years, which would make me golden. But I'll be honest with you, I don't regret doing the show. I regret some of my behavior. Okay? I regret some things that I didn't. You know, I want to fight like this.

Yeah, a fight like this. Because they're playing a different game. and I was like, I will fight a man, I don't give a fuck. I'm like Sophia, I don't give a fuck. So it was definitely the network, though, because, you know, Steve only did one season, too. Well, I didn't know. Okay, me and Steve, he don't even remember this, I bet. Steve, me and the boys had just game on ABC,

and I was at this gala or something, and Steve having to be there. and he was, he doesn't know that I know, but he was kind of cocky. And surprise. Anyway, so anyway. I didn't mean to do that. And I knew when I heard they mentioned it, I knew it was going to last. Because if they think I'm rebellious, you don't, you ain't seen it. this is a black man

he's he's not going to take guff like that I knew I knew oh so that's what you mean oh okay you mean you're saying so you know if you weren't going he definitely ain't going and he lasted a year but he had Mad Sinclair

and I really would have liked to meet her but other than that you know it was funny because on the studio set I heard

all of the PAs were running around and I said, what the hell is going on? Roseanne caught Tom messing with this girl and I said it came all away from over there to over here. Y'all crazy as hell. Go find

something to do. It was a different kind of work. Will Smith was very nice to me. So they were doing all these shows in the same studio. Around, yeah. Same lot. Same lot.

I remember Coach, his actors would come over to our set. I used to watch that show. Okay. And the kids wanted to see Coach being filmed. And they said they... My kids off my show wanted to go see Coach being filmed. And they told them they couldn't watch.

So when Coach's people tried to come back over. I said, tell them, get them out. If they can't come over there, you can't come over here. Damn right. And I don't play that shit. What movie you're watching? So, you would just see the little...

So they were ready to get your ass off the city. You know. Who called you? Did they have a good sort of courtesy to call you or they made somebody... My manager called me. My manager. The same manager, Rosie O'Donnell had. And Martha Stewart.

So he ain't going. They kick you to the curb, but I got overshed going on. They're going in another direction. But don't worry. Don't worry. That's the bullshit. You know, I wasn't mad. I wasn't, I was just wounded.

I think that's the most honest thing I can say. If you had your dream detoured, you'd be pissed too. No, of course. I can imagine. But when I heard other things behind the scenes, I realized I already knew, because Bill had warned me.

And he said, don't let them not make you be who you are. Don't let them maneuver you. And he was right. He was right. But it did cost me a lot of money. and it pissed me off because I like that track. You know what I'm saying?

Oh, yeah. I already know the residual. No. So why don't they put it on? They have, there's episodes. They've said that they've seen, some people have told me they saw it on bounce. And, you know, that's not a bad network.

No, a lot of stuff come on bounce. But I'm saying, though, like, they need to keep it. I would like. Or at least put it on DVD, like they, well, not now. DVD, you know what I'm saying? Back then they didn't put it on DVDs. Now they just cranked it. It was a little squirrel.

I'm sorry, my mind went somewhere else. It was something that thousands of comedians, my mother told me, she said, you have nothing to be ashamed of. You did a good job. She said, let me tell you something. Do you know how many millions of comedians, thousands of comedians, wish they could do half the stuff that you've done? and I never thought about it like that.

Man, we weren't at bump beds because they're what your kids had in their room on this show. Oh, shut up. You're so serious. We're not really serious. We want the bump bed because our room used to look like the kind of jail without them twin beds

and stuff on the grumahy. So we wanted to bump beds in that motherfucker. Oh, my God, you're so silly. That's huge, though. That was a little flex. That was a flak. A bomb bed? Come on.

Oh, me. Then you had stairs. And I had stairs. You know, I never thought. We have stairs and double-wide trailers in the country now. I'm going to let you know that. Let me tell you something. Having stairs ain't everything.

I've had a lot of stairs, a pool in the backyard and all that silly shit. It don't mean nothing. I mean, you got to have it to know that, though. That's true, too. What's the craziest thing you bought when you first got the show? A big screen TV. but not but by your standards with their flat screens and stuff it wasn't that it was this this big ass big ass I still have it a word I still have you're tight on your money you're gonna get your money and it's still worth come on now

no it's no I have a D I have a D D D player ain't nobody D player that shit do not I have a DVD player it just show people tap dancing on that My father. That shit does not show regular TV. You could not get the game on that TV. That shit is a bunch of niggins on there doing this. It's only showing cable from that year. That's it. That's it.

You still play juicy fruit commercial. Juicy fruit is God to mood you. And choose my song. It gets right to you. Chucy fruit. The taste and taste and taste is going to. There's regularity commercials on that, motherfucker. Still got the TV.

That's crazy. I still have a TV. And it still works. And I bet you, I bet you if I put it out on my lawn, some Latino people will buy it. Yeah, hey, man. Let me tell you something. I'm bad.

A TV is the fucking TV. I get your $125 for it. And my daughter would make me take it. I'm a hoarder. You're a hoarder. Because I want to see that juic-sfruit commercial. One more time. Are you the kind of hoarder that hold on to stuff that's valuable?

Or you hold on to everything. Okay. I'm the kind of hoarder. that holds on to everything. I got dresses in a size 10 like I'm gonna get that size someday. Talk your shit.

I'm gonna lose this way, bitch, please. Does I throw it from your show or whatever? I do. I do. I have a chair with my name on the past of it. You're supposed to keep that, though. That ain't hoarding. That's keep saying.

I do, no, but I do hoard like yardroves and that's the ceramic So if you invited somebody over, can they walk through your house or you got a fucking maze? No, you can walk. You're in that kind of hoarder. You can walk through my house, but you can't go in my room, no. Oh, shit.

It's the devil in there. That's the devil in there. That's not like you're. Yeah. No, let me tell you something. Inside him in my room. There we go. Where the fuck is this shit?

That my fucking Hennessy is crazy. He think I'm drunk. Are you? He don't know I always say, don't it? He don't know how I'm going. He don't know how I do. Hey, a drunk nigga always say that. Ah, this thing you know, hey, y'all ain't hot.

I'm the only one. I think I got that. No, I used to, I used to worry. The toasting this motherfucker ain't. Yeah, let's stop. Nothing's wrong. Have you had Hennessy Pure? Hennessy Pure.

I've had the Dalton, V-S-O-P, black, the white from the island. Okay. I had all of them. Which one do you, this is the one you like? Any one of them, just long of them. Oh, so you, are you an alcoholic? No. Let me tell you something.

Shut up. Yes, me. I ain't trying to get you in a minute, and I'm just trying to say it. No, I have lost. We're just between me and you. Okay. I used to drink Southern Comfort and Hawaiian Punch. What is that?

That's called a ratchet. No thing, but what is, is it a cognate? Is it a hymn? Southern California. Vodka or vodka? It's a whiskey. It's a whiskey. It's a whiskey.

With Hawaiian Punch? Yeah, I was a teenager. That's what we do stupid shit. But you know what? I would drink that and smoke me a joint on the side of my trailer. And, um. Let me be on fire. Oh, boy.

Let me tell you something. No. No. And I was so, I was lit. Of course. And I walked by my mom and my daddy in the house and went to my room and laid down. That's all you can do. That's all you can do, right?

And I was comfortable as I could be. And then my mother turned that light on and say, them dishes waiting for you. I was like, God damn it. And I was so buzzed. Why didn't do dishes before you got flung up? Well, I thought Dinette would do them. You know, when you have a lot of them.

siblings. You have motherfucker my thing. It ain't never your turn when it's your turn. Oh, it ain't my turn. Oh, it's your turn. Get up. You at that drinking. We're with Hawaiian Punch and who? Southern Comfort. Man, this shit sound like I. No,

that's not like a good throw up. No, the Southern Comfort is smooth with this. Whisking with sweet-ass Hawaiian punch? Well, it was good. She was a teenager, man. That's Poloko before Folono.

Yeah. Mad Dog 2020, my girlfriend Carlin's tongue, she drank so much Mad Dog, her tongue turned purple. She was doing something else. Damn, she was ganglap.

That bitch was busy. And we, she was so drunk. And we was trying to help her. And so we just left her at her door because her mama was a Black Panther. Oh, damn. Her mom and her daddy, I said, oh, shit,

Mrs. Table gonna be mad. I said, we just, we just. just left her at the door. Yeah, that's probably a good idea. She was drunk as fuck. She was sick for two weeks. We just laid her down by the house and just like, well, Lord. Y'all chase that whiskey with Hawaiian punt. Blow the horn and drag off. And drinking Mad Dog 2020. Good God. Pull up in that big beauty. The daughter out there.

She had that slumped over in the damn Missa. I had a Lincoln Continental with suicide doors. Oh, I know that'd be got the hell on. Oh, oh, wow. Oh, wow. A little five. She gets snatching up the goddamn road and shit. Well, you can tear the asphalt up in that song, bit.

It was a five point out of that one, wasn't it? Let me tell you something. If you get hit by Lincoln Continental. You did. You did. Your car is fucked up. Let me tell you something. That's when America made a car. That bitch were made out of God. And when you rode, I was driving, baby, and I was doing 80 and a 30.

I swear to God, I didn't know it. It was so smooth. That's come from that drinking and Hawaiian punching that whiskey. Could be. I know it. But I always made it home. Suicide though. And you can hear my A-track playing the Funkadelics. Shit, goddamn, get off your ass in jamming.

It was loud, you can hear me coming, and my little sister was in the car with me. So what car you bought when you got that big chick when you got that TV show? I know you had that Lincoln were gone. She bought that TV and she said, fuck. I bought the TV, I was done. No, I had a nice little.

It's all I have with me. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we've got some incredible guests like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she? She is not with us in. Okay, great, great, great way to start. So this is a great beginning and hopefully you'll be able to, I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seifred.

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Yeah. They tell you you don't blow you, you don't start blowing until your third season anyway. Oh, so you did, right. Well, you, the money that you make from the first season is not as, is ample as it is now. You know, you got people getting a million dollars an episode. I mean, that was sad for you back in the day, though. Yeah, so, I mean, but. Yeah, no, I know, I know, yeah, yeah. You know, come on, please.

Oh, Evay. Anyway, um. I ain't never watched that shit. I don't, I didn't enjoy, you know what, I have, I, I know he's, he's a good performer, but I never felt close to him. And I think when you do comedy, you have to, you're bridging a gap. And you're trying, I like to be around my audience. I love my audiences.

You know, he's very sterile. He's very. He said he's doing the same set for 20 years. I don't think so. Well, he said it. I ain't talking about it. He said it? Well, fuck it.

Then he's doing it. Let me tell you something. He sell out Carnegie Hall, what the fuck? He was on some documentary. He was talking to Chris Rock. He was like, yeah, we're doing the same thing. I worked with Chris Rock and The Dirtiest Dozen when he was young, a teenager. Yeah.

What's the Dirtiest Dozen? It's a show, a movie I did with Rodney Dangerfield. Oh, okay. That's who gave me my first break. So it's like, Rodney Dangerfield. That's dope. I get more respect. Yep.

My first introduction to him with Ladybug. I'm sorry. Really? I'm a kid. Oh, that's all right. I forget that. 38-year-old nigga talking about I'm a kid. When he was out, I'm a kid.

Damn, come on. He had been out. I'm a kid. I didn't even, my first introduction, with later books. And I went back and saw some other shit, but. College kids made him a star. You said he gave your first break.

What you mean? Like, he took him a row or something? He let me be on his sitcom. He let me be on HBO, the Showtime special. And he gave me my first opportunity, and he filmed Dirty as Dussin. And I got to get it. Shout on the Ronnie Day in the film show. I ain't never heard nobody get him created like that.

You know, he, you know, he saw something in me. And when he called me, my friend said, she answered wrong, she goes, and I say, no, goddamn Randy Dangerful you're calling here. Here they get y'all number like that back then. It was easy. All you do is look at the Just for Labs and see who's aging. Okay, okay, okay. So he called me and he said, I think that you're really down, and I like you.

I just love it. I think you're so down to earth. You're just down. and if he could recognize it, then why can't everybody else recognize it? And why am I not allowed to say what I want to say? And that's another thing. Why am I allowed to say what I want to say

and I'm a woman? I got just as much thought as y'all do, if not more, because I'm older than you. I got wisdom. I didn't hide, man Come on. Yeah.

Loz family can't use it. I didn't do it, man. I got used them. No, anyway. No, I mean, it's always been hard to say

with some of the shit I say. It's always been hard. You got to stand on it. Got to you. That's what makes us comedians. Hell yeah. Yeah, but sometimes I think it's wrong for

why does everybody give a fuck about that if you say something about them they get beside themselves and I laugh because it's funny because you know what they are so united so united and we ain't shit you can't get us to have a barbecue

without a problem it's like uh-uh-uh everybody you ever notice they got their whole shit set up Guys, the regular fuckers are trying to fuck with us again. The people who fuck regular. Regulars, regulars, regular. No talking about that. We're in the presence of Reggis.

What's the reggie? People who fuck regular. That's funny Shut the fuck up. That's funny. The Reggies. No, for real. The Niggies are straight Reggies.

Oh, man. They're mad. Man, we could literally do this shit all night, man. No, we're not. No, I know, but. Six years old, it's time to do it. Because mother needs a cigarette. I'm not lying.

What is? Either one weird, but I love. No, I smoke Darjaro. Darge, all them jarms. It's a, oh, this is so nice. It's like gango. Help me. They're like.

Cigarettes, 15 dollars. It's like clove cigarettes. Oh, my goodness. Oh. Yeah. Some hood. Oh, this is so nice. Thank you.

Yeah. You're so sweet. Got you a hoodie, y'all. Oh, my God, I got a hoodie. Yeah. I'm going to keep this for myself. I'm not going to tell my children. Don't know.

They got your name on the box. Hey, you got a kid. You got a hoodie. You got a hoodie. on in bears and put their old business out. Let me just say this. I want to give a shout out to Keehan and Nuff Sad, Keehan and Nuff Sad

for making this happen. Y'all for letting me. Yeah, that's Kenan. Shout out. Shout out to Kenan. No, you don't understand what it's like, you know. We are the generation that grew up

watching you on TV. It's an honor and a privilege just to sit here and listen to you. Talk your shit and tell your stories. This is your first time coming. Oh, what? I would love to be your last. Because you guys are fun.

Most definitely. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the 85th South show. If you made it this far, then you would know that we are talking to some comedic royalty today. A lady who put it down had her own show, travel the world, doing jokes. The first. First black woman with her TV show.

On National Network. on a national network. The namesake. Had Brandy, Jason Wheeler. I made a classic. She raised us. I, Auntie, for real. There is.

None other than you. There. Yeah. Thank you. None other than. Bus rocks. Well, we really appreciate you stopping through here. Come here and see you guys.

No, thank you. Yeah, how it is. No. Because I watched, I said, well, I've never, let me find out what the same. You can go offender saying, I ain't never heard them niggas. You don't fuck with the game. No, no, no, no. You're about to say it, but I ain't heard of the g-gain.

No, no, I said, let me just say this. I said, what is 85 South? What is, what is that? And what is it, 85? I don't get that part. But my kids. That's why you got to give a shout out to Kenny because he knew. Shit, these niggins.

Hey, you don't know who I am? Trust me on this. You might not know, but these motherfuckers, shit. Let me tell you something. My kids knew who you were. And I said, oh, I want to. My daughter's going to work right now.

And because she works. She works. God damn. Your kids watch us on him. Well, we're just going to tell him, yeah, your mama came to the train. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, thanks that man.

Yeah, yeah. All we down to the nails. Puck your whole lugs. Oh, the shit. Do it back at Justin. Yeah, yeah, Nick. No, tell the truth, that, that bill caused the joke was funny, is it?

Yeah, yeah. Took out a cigar. I tried sticking to my ass. Yeah, yeah. Caught me off guard. I ain't gonna lie, that was that. This is my cigar. This is my cigar.

This is a... Y'all are just, y'all are some, I don't know how long you've been doing, how long you've been doing comedy? 15 years. How long you? 13. Oh, he's a musician. What do you, how long? 20.

20. We babes to you guys. I think that you're very, very, very, very smart and very, very funny. If, if I'd have known you, I've been doing it a damn near 40. Damn. That's the law, ain't it? Yeah, yeah. Let me tell you something.

I would have hung out with you, motherfuckers. You damn right. I would have hung out with you too. We'd been hanging out with you back in the day freebase. No, not, no, no, no, not doing that. I mean, not you. We would have been doing it. I got children.

Not you. We didn't. You're crazy, bro. This same way we smoke a weed with me. It would have been ston powder. You fucking think, who the fuck do y'all Thanks, y'all are. We just had been born in the wrong generation, bro.

We would have been to all the things we've talked shit about we have been done. You got some money. Hey, most how long does it got that I got to go get my medicine? Come on, man. Say good night, nigga. Say good night, nigga.

Say good night, nigga and 85,000. Shit. Hey, hey, y'all. Hey, hey, hey. Thank y'all who watch you, man. Y'all think we would have been exempt? We had. Hey, hey, not only do we have.

but we got a man, we got Theo on everything. You do no Thiel, man. She was on everything, man. I'm telling you, we would have been on that show. Hey, man, we got Thia from Thia, man. That's right, Jack. That's right. Next, we're going to get Tia and Tamara.

I'm telling you, man. We doing big shit over here. Hey, man, pass me some more than me. You think we would have been exempt, nigga, you out your mind. No, don't do us like that. I'm glad we were born right. It was a party drug. But you know what I heard of two people arguing,

my daughter was telling me, she said she was working, this was when she was working in a holistic store. She said, you know what? Cocaine back in the 90s was the best it could be. It had to be in 80s. It had to be an 80s. And they said it was, it was the best.

He said, just the cocaine they got now with this fentanyl in it. Yeah. It's ain't shit. I can't do this. That 70s coat looked like it was the best the way they were dancing, like how hard they were spinning around. Yeah, they were having to add time.

It was also anil nitrate too. Show me that you might give me just a minute. No. That was cocaine. That's the last. We both are here. So far, so let it will slow out. That Coke was pure.

Take your time, young man. Mama used to say. Shit, bro. You crazy. Can I? I always said, like, somebody's watching me. I need some privacy.

That would tell me surprise. Nick, he tried to watch me hit this powder. They're proud of him. Good. I saw you. Walking in the rain. Yeah, I disagree. You know you got to be on powder

to ride around in a car and follow some motherfuckin' fucking your wits. Now, you got to be on powder to walk in the rain, That's what the man. He told that man a chicken McNugget. He told that motherfucker. He told that bitch. Tell me that coat.

Orange Juice Jones. Oh, man. Y'all missed a good time. And you know what? We didn't fight. We didn't snitch. You didn't fight and not go to jail? But, you know what?

I think it would admit for our generation not to be. Like Tyler said, we'd have been some fucked up. We probably got over it, but we'd have been on it. Well, some of you. would have got over. Some of them never did. Some of them never did. That's what just what happened. I made a lot of money all the ones who never did. Once they got solid, once that shit got solid,

we probably would stop fucking with it. I think that's what I think ought to be. I think I got in the power. They didn't know what I did. You can't trust drugs like you used to when I was young. No, no. But see, back then, they didn't think crap were going to do them like it did. They thought it was like we. I'm saying.

I mean, get it. They never, they never. Richard Pryor tells you that they never foresaw it. Because I threw it away, grandma, I threw it away. Nicky, you could have spayed, got your money back. I mean, did you, no one. You know what I'm going to took it back to the man you got it from? Grandma, they're ain't how it worked.

You can't go back to the dope man and be like. Excuse me. I don't want this anymore. I flushed it down to $15,000. I got my seat right here. I got my receipt. You're going to give back my money for this dope. You would have never thought that

that cocaine would have did what it did. Of course not. Nobody foresaw it because it was like... It was cool until they put it in their microwave. Exactly. It was cool until they discovered crack.

Until they figured they could turn it into crack. You know what? I'm a digress for a minute. But if you watch, I like to watch movies. Old ones, I'm a real big fan of those, classics. Also, if you watch Hollywood, it tells you what it thinks of us. When you see Black Panther, the movie, not the Marvel, I'm talking about the movie. they gave the dealer free heroin and cocaine.

They never foresaw that if you give him this, he will become rich. They never saw that. The godfather, when they talk about drugs, you remember? He says, I would keep it amongst the color, because let them lose their souls. We don't do dope in this family. Give it to the niggas. And they did. Give it to the fucking moolies and let them figure it out.

The movie on. If you watch enough film, you'd be like, white people just bold enough to tell us they don't give a fuck about us in film and we're looking at it in our face. I just think that, you know, and then Angel Dust was before cocaine. You didn't know about Angel Dust.

You would lace it in a joint or tobacco and they would smoke it and then they would jump off. They would be crazy. Dust heads, yeah. They would be crazy. That's what Hector gave smoking. That you would watch the evolution of a drug

in just 40 years that, you know, went from weed. I remember you can get a four-finger lid for $20. What is it? A lid? Yeah. It's an ounce of weed. Oh.

A lid, man, it's a zip now, man. Yeah. They fuck me up. She said, four-finger lead. Let me get a lid. That mean, you got it. You got that much weed in the bag. You got a lot of weed.

No, you got a lot of weed. I went to Mexico and bought it. But I'll say, why are you in a four? Let me tell you something. You got a $10 and it was good. Red hair since, Amelia. How much it was? You bought some field.

$10 a lid, an ounce. You got an ounce for $10. Yeah. This is back in the States. Yeah. It wasn't the fuck, man. $10. You don't think it started off at $200.

No, I'm just saying it took his weeks to make $10, nigga. All right. You go to Mexico. Mexico used to be fun to go to Juarez. You go to Waraz. Waraz. I thought if I said Tijuana is, that's what the real partail is. That's where I was.

That's where I went right. It came right across back. Because you were in Texas, though, right? I was performing in Texas, but I, we all would go to, I was performing in El Paso, and I would go over to Juarez and give me some weed. Let me tell you, and I go to the Mercado and all that of the shit. But anyway. You really wanted some weed, you took your hat.

Let me tell you, would you say, baby? Do you call it weed or herb or something? No, they called it weed. We always called it weed. We always called it weed. You didn't ever call it a refa. What? Reefer.

No, you came up to me trying to buy some marijuana. I ain't telling you shit. I ain't called a cheetah or reefer. She said, we always call it weed or marijuana. You come up to me trying to buy some marijuana. It's got there for you. It's got there for you. The white boys would call it grass.

Grass, yeah. But you know what? You know what I wanted? I always wanted. What? Some pot. We called it pot too. I ain't never had no pot.

I ain't never had no pot. Hot. Yeah. Smoked a little pot. It's a lot. It's a pot. All good. I want to smoke some.

Potts. And get stoned, man. We, we, that era gone. We can't get that. Pots gone. Pots gone. Pots is when they started growing. I don't think we'd like pot if we got it.

The only thing pot was was when they started to stop growing weed outside and started growing inside and it was growing in pots. Yeah. So that's what they started calling. I was there for that way. I just got some pot, man. That was really amazing that you could grow it inside with the lights. It's a man.

You might have some weed. I got a bit from. Argentina, she was growing in in her closet. Man, you remember everybody named, man. That's crazy to me. Where they from and all that shit? I forget the motherfuck out of me yesterday. This is going to end up being a 10-part miniseries.

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