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Okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Man, we got to do an episode with you and KP on that.
Sure.
Man, you didn't put this nigger name in some of the coldest land.
Even before I ever knew who this nigga was, I still felt like he was a cool-ass nigga.
Hey, man, the least I could do for the motherfucker who got me off my bike selling crack on bankhead, man.
You know what I'm saying?
That the least I could do.
But you know how that shit be.
You hear, once you listen to a certain artist so many times
and you start hearing the name drops.
You're like, yeah, that's his partner to KP.
I know what you're talking about.
He's a cool, lad, nigga.
He don't listen to nobody but KT&AP?
Like listen to KAM, you know Beatrice.
Yeah, most everything.
You know, we'll be Aetrious, man, yeah, man.
Y'all have been partners for a long time, though, man.
What does it feel like to know that after all of this success
and all these years in your career
that you still got your day ones down
and they still at arm's length, bro.
And y'all only fell out
and everybody right there in place, man.
I got all, I mean,
it feels about right.
I mean, like all the people that I,
when we lock in, we lock in,
you know what I mean?
All the people that I had around me
is still around me.
Well, that's a testament to you as a person
because, you know, money will end up fucking friendship.
I think it's a testament to them as people.
Most definitely.
It's the other people that came and went, you know what I'm saying?
But I think it's more of a testament to them as people.
Yeah, that's, man, it's just dope as hell that you didn't stop through here.
And I just want to thank you, too, as a fan of your music, you know,
I'm serious, that was my first album I ever purchased with my own money.
The first album was that I purchased that album.
You look so much younger than that.
Damn, my goodness, man.
I was in elementary school
What
That's your most slept on album
Yeah
I don't know how to
I don't know how that shit didn't work
I heard my home girl
It worked
Baby Daddy baby baby
It worked
I do I know how I do
That motherfucker is still getting play around the city
The day it can't
You a baby sticky baby
Man all of this
They still get played in the flag
Right now
So thank you bro
So okay I'm fresh out
I'm fresh out of the street
Fresh Out of the trip
I'm serious out of the street, I'm serious out of the trip
I'm serious when I got a record deal
and they say, okay, they work on the album.
Did the first time I had unlimited resources
to go in the studio and just make whatever kind of song
I want to make, work, whatever kind of
produce I want to work with.
So I'm really just seeing all the different tricks I can do.
I'm doing every kind of song.
We're doing Calypso.
We got a little, you know what I'm saying?
We do everything.
We got, hey, man, let's do it.
And I don't think there was a lot of
solidified focus direction.
You know what I mean?
We had some pockets, some songs that would direct, that, that had direction.
But I just, I can see how it was a little all over the place, which a lot of people don't really understand how sporadic my creative spirit is.
You know what I'm saying?
Like right now, I'm talking about a album, movies, music, comedy.
I'm talking about, you know, comedy, stand-up comedy.
I'm talking about, like, so much stuff.
We're talking about.
Like, so all of my creative energy.
It's so sporadic and all over the play
that I can understand how
motherfucker like, man, I can't wrap my mind
around this shit. I get it. I got it up
perfectly on the breakfast club when you said
motherfucker I'm all love.
Right.
But it's the truth. Exactly.
You know what I mean?
But have you as an artist at times
struggled to pick which
one you should be leaning into at the
time? Because it could be hard to
redirect and honing on that focus yourself.
Certain periods
and times in my life and my career
I have, but right now
I think
I have a great
idea of
what I should and shouldn't be doing.
You know what I mean?
Like this is probably the most present
I've been, you know what I mean?
Because success
is like a deep sleep.
It's like a deep sleep?
Yeah, when you're real successful.
I'd imagine you and D.C. and Chico, I'd imagine
And, you know, people be talking to y'all, y'all, you know, when you're talking to somebody, they nod and off, but they, they respondent, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's how success is.
You know what I mean?
Like, when you really own fight like that, and you're the hottest shit in the world, you don't hear what nobody's saying.
You know what I mean?
And you're just doing what you want to do, and it ain't until you get used to it, and it's started to kind of, the smoke clear, and it levels that.
And then you'd be like, damn, that happened?
I said, what?
For real.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, I think once you sustain it and maintain it for a certain amount of time,
it comes back to your understanding and you have a clear vision of exactly what needs to happen.
Well, man, before we wrap this up, I speak for me and my lady when I say,
thank you for giving us the opportunity as fans to get the no tip.
Not TI.
Uh-huh.
It's a difference.
The real Ti-I.
And I didn't even recognize that it was a different.
until one day you might not even remember this we were sitting in the studio yeah
and we were talking about the TI and the tip shit and you were like man that ain't
my fucking name people who know me don't call me no fucking TI my name tip my name
my name Ben Tip and I was like the more I was around you I was like okay this
tip all right yeah that okay I see the difference we're not just in the Glade
pad the fact that you said you and your lady yeah everybody knows my life
tip this been my lady for the bro let me tell you right quick before we wrap
up when I first started
doing comedy.
You didn't do that out there
and just kept moving.
I didn't know that.
This was my first lady.
What?
Bro, when I first
really, we've been
dealing with each other since
I made this man
in uptown comedy.
What?
Literally.
Oh, man, congratulations for y'all.
Yeah, this is a whole
full circle.
And that's why she said
it was crazy.
That's why I should have had
my own leg club.
That's why I was saying
it was crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
I was a third wheel.
Hey, Tiny.
How you want to pop in
before we rap, come say what's up
one time. Well, don't then.
Huh? I said, you can come in and say what's up.
Yeah, that's why I was saying it was crazy
how we back again. Come on and join us.
So, Leah, when she said it was crazy that
that moment at the studio,
do you know that that was like
the beginning of the pandemic? And that was
the longest that me and her went
without talking to each other.
And we saw, what is that?
Look it, expeditiously
bringing love back together.
All right. We just got joined by another
special guest. How you doing, Queen?
Miss Tiny is in here with us today.
Another musician, legend.
That is my lady.
She's been knowing this.
Did you know that?
I had no idea.
Because we never were like really public.
We both was on the grind just chasing our own dreams.
So it's like, we're going to figure it out.
We haven't really figured it out yet.
But now we're figuring it out.
Yeah, she's been running around here trying to act like she ain't my lady for the long way.
You know, my mind did that too for a little while.
You know how that's...
Well, I was going to ask Tiny since we're talking about.
black love like what's some of them
hold up we got hold up tip got to go on stage
yeah that's what they're telling me you got to go hit the stage
okay all right
I had no idea yeah
yeah I'm here for this
I had no idea
I mean if there's some money for me
I want to be there to receive
see still no they were telling they were saying we had
I think it was to make sure he was good
Yeah, they told me to go get in the cart, so I think he's supposed to be going.
We good?
All right, Ben.
Go ahead with your next one.
I didn't want to ask, because you said, like, it definitely puts a strain on your relationship.
Were there any things that y'all implemented early on?
Like, give us some game on how you could be like, let's put this in place so the industry doesn't put unnecessary strain on us.
Like, what can we do in-house?
I think it's just knowing what your relationship is about.
Could you roll, though?
Huh?
Really, just cut your phone off.
Cut your phone off.
You cut your phone on.
Cut your phone off.
I don't put your phone down.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of bad information won't even make it to you, a lot of bad energy, a lot of doubt, a lot of hate.
Won't just put your phone down.
It's hard to put your phone down, though.
I mean, these days, since he don't have no, you know, Instagram and stuff, he think it's real easy.
But he's stay on his phone, even though he still on.
I have the business.
And he got all the stuff that's on Instagram still coming to him.
Oh, they sent this to me, but you still getting all the news.
Right.
No, I don't get all the news, baby.
I get the news that make the way to meet.
I don't have to go out there fishing for it.
We know that they hit me in the head.
But that's the way.
That's just my, she may have a different.
I always say, what's one of yours that you like?
Let's put this in place.
Here's to put the phone down.
What's something that you feel like you need?
I mean, I just think it's about, you know, knowing who your person is, who your partner is.
you just got to know you got to just be strong on knowing like this what it is with me and him
and knowing if it's really real because I mean to me I feel like you know to keep a relationship strong
each person has to fight for it you know what I'm saying so that's I love that and fighting at the
same time fighting for it this little girl right here is so you don't no no time
yeah we don't always fight at the same time but when we fight at the same time but when we fight at the same
time, that's when it really works.
It do, but how do you keep?
Because I feel like that's been me a lot.
But sometimes one of you got to fight harder, because the other one ain't fighting.
So one of you got to fight harder.
So you just step up.
You see the other person can't fight as hard right now, so you just step up and overcompensate
for that.
Because I feel like that's what we lost it, going on 13 years of dealing with each other
back and poor.
But that one is real.
One of y'all is ready, the other one isn't ready, and the other one ready, and you
ain't ready, and you ain't ready, and then you find yourself at a place.
Well, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I've been broke out with this woman, 10 summer straight.
We do this every summer.
I come back, I check the trap, you still on bullshit.
Ah, shit, I got to leave.
Come back, ah, she caught me fucking up this time.
Leave and come back.
Ain't nobody fucking up.
We both going to fuck up.
Hey, man, we're about two fuck-ups away.
I think we can go up too fuzzle of a bit.
But I'm going to tell you that, you will never find a couple, 50 years.
in they don't have them stories right all you seeing is the picture they took on their 50th
anniversary you didn't see the other 49 years exactly they got them there you know what I'm
saying a lot of things have to be overcame a lot of things have to be endured there's a lot
to withstand to make it to a place where you reach a 50 year milestone you know what I mean
yeah I was just looking over I saw you the little one you know in the early days two
fast, you won't meet, you won't, uh, you know, meet the sweet spot to where you are laid on down.
That's right.
Yeah.
Don't leave before the magic happens.
You're right.
You're right.
How do you get like, you know, it's so many.
Just don't go nowhere.
Okay.
That's how you do it.
Just don't go nowhere.
No way.
It don't go no way.
Now see, I saw the little one, though, but this little girl is so funny.
Yeah.
Like I see her cooking show she got with her cousin.
Yeah.
She's cooking and she'll just bust out singing just.
I don't know what I think that that little girl is so funny man
little eras how are you doing?
She's like, I'm ready to go
I was like, but they're talking about your brother
and she said, why aren't they talking about me?
She knows she knows she the next star in line
that's dope no but one thing about marriage
I feel like we only like you said see the picture
the glitz and the glam but what's something y'all wish
people knew more about marriage that could possibly
like help bring or keep black marriages going strong
50, 60 years?
Oh, that's tip question right there.
Go ahead, baby.
What you wish they knew about marriage for real?
Not the glitz and the glam, but how to make it customizable.
I wish they knew more about their own marriage than they did about mine.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, just that minding your own being is to take you so far?
Right.
Comparison is the thief of joy.
Preach.
You can't enjoy what you got going on if you comparing it to somebody.
else. You know what I'm saying? Y'all might have a great conversation or a great communication
aspect in y'all relationship. But here you is comparing to somebody else. Oh, they're so
affectionate. They so, you know, he gives such good gifts. Oh, she, she, you know, she cooked, she brings him
lunch to his job. But, but they not communicate. All they do.
doing is the things you see them doing.
Right. You don't see the other stuff that's not
being done. Don't compare yourself
to nothing. Be the change that you want to
see. If you see somebody else doing
something that you want to see in your life,
then start doing that.
Don't you get to compare yourself
to other stuff because that pulls
attention away from what you need to be
focusing on in your own situation.
And I'm going to shut up.
You could just drop the mic right there.
You ain't selling that but some hot shit in the truth.
That's real, though.
No, but, Tony, it's like I said, 50 years of hip hop, you're alleging yourself, you've been just been on tour of yourself.
Like, how does that feel to be like, like, did you know starting out that hip hop would take it this far, that escape would make it this far, that you as a self, that, you know, everything that you've done on your own will go this far?
Like, what's been some of your favorite moments through this journey?
I mean, for me, some of my favorite moments would be just, you know, being that we had broke up.
up for like 17 years and we came back and we were able to do things that we never done
when we first put our records out when we had actually hit records on the chart we were never
we never like did sold out arenas on our own we was always like you know a opening act or something
cool headland you know we did a lot of tours with our killer at the time so you know um okay
some of the best shows you probably ever seen back in the night art we can't piss on that and
Damn shot.
We're just going to have to cut it after their performance.
We can only watch their tape to Escape get done.
That's legendary, though.
That was huge at the time.
And, you know, so coming back 17 years later, we were able to sell out arenas and also have, you know, it was our own tour.
It was called the Great Escape Tour.
We've never done that before.
And, you know, I guess the range of our audience went from seven to 70.
We had seven-year-olds at our tour
And also 70
So it's of wider range
You know what I'm saying
So that was, you know
That's super dope
Tiny me and Bree were talking about this earlier
We want to ask both of y'all
Because y'all both are well-established artists
Who have written hits
For other people
Not just regular shit they put on the album
These were some of their biggest song
What does it feel like as a creative person
To create at the same level
For someone else as you would
for yourself.
Right.
For me, I mean, it was a great feeling.
I think it was one of the best things we could have ever did
because at the time, me and Candy wrote this song for our project.
Me and Candy was doing the project called K-A-T for Candy and Tiny.
And it was one of the songs that we wrote for ourselves.
And, you know, I think Tony Mercedes ended up taking it to L.A. read.
And, you know, they end up loving it and one was like,
yo, we wanted to cut this on TLC.
And for a moment, we were like, no, this is our song.
You know what I'm saying?
She's talking about the very successful, the very lucrative, no scrubs.
If you don't know.
Right.
And, you know, so that was one of the best things we could have did.
You know, our background vocals are still on the song.
And, you know, it's still a very lucrative song.
It's still, you know, continuing to make money.
Ed Sharon
recorded it
I think
Doja cat
What's the name?
No it's not Dogey
Docee
A few other people
I mean like the song
I just see the money
I don't know
You know what I get the checks
You're the red box
For people too
No I take the checks
The check come to the man box
I say baby
Look what we got
Look what we got
Ain't gone good
He is
Right now as a writer
You know
It's a lot different
The music now is way different
from what it was, you know, back in the day,
do you feel like it's not as,
it's just too much,
do you think that the women now are just putting too much out there,
are we not leaving enough to the imagination?
Like, it used to be way more subtle back in the day.
Yeah, I think back in the day was a little more passion,
a little more love, a lot more love.
You know what I'm saying?
A lot more love driven than it is today.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Not to say that it's, you know, it's not cool,
But it's just a different vibe, you know what I'm saying?
I think what you mean to say is at the end of the day,
we support whatever keep them from breaking in our house.
So whatever they get to do,
then get them the success to keep them from breaking in our house.
You keep doing that, and we're going to keep doing us,
and everybody will be happy.
Well, look, man, you and your wife want Atlanta's favorite couples,
and hip-hop's favorite couples.
Thank you. And we need y'all to keep doing this shit and giving us that example that it can work, man.
We got to go to Tribe City and have like dinner at a karaoke night.
Yeah, huh?
Oh, you ain't bet.
We're going to pull up at the Black House.
She ain't pulled up to the Black House yet.
Got to get to the Black House.
Man, most definitely.
What are we going to do?
Sure.
Y'all will play Scrabble?
Something.
Let me tell you something.
We used to do, like, have to try to set up our own a company night at this, at the
Black House.
We had come in a night's down.
Yeah.
And I ain't bad.
And I'm a motherfucker on that mic.
You know that.
But you'd be booked and be easy.
Well, I'll pull it, make sure.
We got space at the Black House.
Oh, and I won't everybody ask for space.
Okay, so we are the champions.
Let's go.
I don't know how to play space.
We don't want to break y'all.
No.
You ever seen stepbrothers?
Yeah.
When you go over Tip and Tiny House,
there's so much activity.
activities to do.
We're going to have fun.
So much rule for activities.
I learned how to play space and the plane on babies, so I could play.
We need some old people though, besides just y'all.
We don't need to be double dating.
Yeah.
Because people like us don't need to double date with folks who just getting back together and still cute.
And you know what I mean?
No.
I don't know.
I feel like we passed that stage.
Mm-mm.
We all folks now.
We need somebody who can argue.
You know what I mean?
Who's sick of each other.
Are you having two of the greatest?
We don't agree about it.
We need like Rashida and Kirk.
You know what I'm saying?
Christian and Blueface.
We don't know what I'm saying?
We are Christian and Blueface without the violence.
Without the violence.
Yeah, we don't do the valet.
Man, I'm just joking, man.
But y'all enjoy y'all self.
I appreciate my time.
And I don't know if y'all recognize it than that.
While we've been sitting here, we missed the hell of a sunset.
You know what I'm saying?
We missed a hell of a sunset.
We got the rapping, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
We ain't going to catch that no more to tomorrow.
You're right.
You dig what I'm saying?
So let's enjoy the moments that we have with each other.
You feel I mean?
Speaking of which, let's get a picture, man.
We just enjoyed this sunset together, man.
Let's take a picture.
We got Tilly.
We got Tilly.
We got Trey Renee and we got Carlos Miller.
Straight from the backwoods, backstage lounge, and we are out of here.
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It was expensive. But I was
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I don't have to do anything.
Main thing, I don't have to
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