The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - TREVOR JACKSON in the Trap | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

TREVOR JACKSON, a man of many talents, sits down with Karlous and DC!   || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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A vest with no shirt on Yeah Extra long pony tape Where you're dangling, everything is it So I'm tripping out Because I got to meet the guy who played Darth Vader, bro. That's the only reason I started growing

Is yeah, Anakin Skywalker. But I met him in person. I was like, dude, you know they wanted me to cut it for grunice? They were like, cut it. I was like, I can't. Can't do it. Can't do it. That's the coolest motherfucker you met?

In terms of like nerd shit, probably yeah. For real? Yeah. I'm obsessed with Star Wars. Really? Yeah. The old one? I can watch the old one, but, you know, once a great,

once you get past a certain generation of graphics, you can't really go back to a Muppet Yoda. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Yodda's like, bram right? I'm like, dude, what? No. Yodda's got to be back to. So the coolest motherfucker I met

In my whole career I tell this story a hundred times I got to meet Freddy Krueger one day Oh for real? Real Freddy Krueger Did nobody even know who he was Yeah So I'm at LAX this before they rebuilt it And all that shit just over there getting one

A little bullshit sandwiches So I'm like hype because I'm in lying by myself And I'm like bro that's And the lady's like who? Who? Who what? Is this random white lace? I'm like man That's Freddy Krueger right there She was like, no, it's not. I'm like, man, that's the dude that played Freddy Krueger.

I'm telling me, because he looked like Freddy Krue. Yeah, he does. So I went over there, I was talking to him, and she was like, oh, my God, we're talking, right? So she was like, can we get a picture? He turned around and hit him with the Freddy Krueger voice. He was like, listen, bitch, I'm talking. Everybody in the whole airport, and the whole airport was like, it isn't him. That was the coldest day of my life, yeah, man.

That was one of the cold. That's crazy, dude. I got to meet the Fons a couple weeks ago. Who? The Fonz. Yeah, Henry Winkler. The coolest white dude ever in history.

Happy days. He's on what? Oh, the older guy? Oh, he's cold. He was in a, not the graduate. He was in a lot of shit. A boy, all that. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

He was defuncts. And he's in holes. Happy day, exactly. He was on my flight. He was sitting right in front of a cool white dude. He got a act, too. Funny, he's funny. Absolutely.

I met a lot of randomness. Leo was cool. I met Leonardo. He was cold. He had like three mafia dudes behind him with the leather jacket on. He had his hair in, like, a ponytail. He was, like, why he was shooting Revenant.

Had a blue cigarette and a cup of scotch, bro, chilling. And I was like, hey, man, I got the reason why I do, he feels dope, man. I'm saying my shit. And he was like, he was like, someone to lose your name, bro? I was like, I couldn't believe it, dude. Leo, well. I mean, Trevor, Treve, Trey. Yeah, I love when you meet random, man, people.

One day I was at this hotel in L.A., I was standing on the balcony, smoking a blunt. And then somebody under me was smoking a blunt. And then somebody under me was smoking the blunt. And then I was like, man, who was that smoking the blunt? And he walked out and he looked up. Man, it was fucking Tone Loke, man. Wow, that's crazy. You're too young for Tone Loke.

Your mama know who I'm talking about. The guy sings that? No, that's mixed a lot. Tone Loke's fucking called Vandina. He's the nigga with the deep voice. He used to be a... Oh, from Aintura? Absolutely.

There we go. Absolutely. He said, A's like, Kandum. Yeah. That's Holyo. Yeah. Just randomly running into people. Brammer came to the show a couple weeks ago when he was in Oakland.

Yeah. What are I picked on? Fulienti. Yeah. Who's no fooling? It's my boy. This nigga is so talented. Bro.

You telling me? I was just talking. I was like, bro. I feel like we watched this nigga grow up, man. I was like, dude, first throwing in a grown man. He was 17, bro. This nigga is a phenomenal actor, phenomenal singer. When I knew the nigga sang, I said, God!

God, damn. Br, five minutes ago, I just said you should have hit it. You in D.C. should have locked in. I know, dude. Please, please, please. Anything you need, anything. It's on the way. I'd love to, man.

It's on the way. It's on the way. Chiving it up, man. Charming it up. Tracking the motherfucker. I know. I had to go all the way around and come down John Burrough. I'm in the car like, mm-mm.

Like, D.C., I'm like, not today. And then, that's a day. That's a day. My nigga got to play in the game. I got to go. You know, we here, though, everything is school. It's been good, bro. It's been good. I was, did some, it's called Silence, The Shame. Have you heard of this?

It's like a mental health, like, organization that this lady used to be in music heavily, and now she's been putting on at colleges in different, like, events. So I got to go there and talk to some college kids about just life and, you know. That was really powerful stuff. For real. I love seeing us hungry for that type of knowledge. You know, I feel like we're always something like, no, man, we good, we good. But I like something like, okay, yeah, how can I improve?

I can I feel better about my current life and shit. People be acting like they, you know, man. You know what, man? Then two weeks later, they come and like, Hey, I got something like, why you've been faking it just so long? Right, right, right. You know what you should milled up just? Yeah.

Express yourself so you can get the help. Exactly. But, um, I want to talk. Yeah, because I've seen it, but I knew you were talking about something deep. Well, how do your brain stop and then you pick up with the... Pick up right here. There's a little space here. There's a space and then it's a...

It's a... It's a... Why can they keep it going, dick? You got three different handcuffs, yeah. I've had it too long, I have this, I've had this too long. I'm like, I can't. This thing is an avatar. Let's go, let's go, I put it after.

They got three different hats styles. They got a fade, some braids. I ain't need seeded face. This shit got the Gucci in the back. I don't know what this thing is. They forgot to put this with the tent. They don't have too good. They had dreads.

My brother's got dreads. Oh, yeah, my brother. What's your ethnicity? My mom is Mexican and Creole. My dad is blacky, black, black, Black, black-black-o-black-black-black-de-black-de-black-de-ha. What, Patois? Patois.

Patoa. What? Is that what it is? Frio. Yes. No, they speak Creole. No, that's Jamaican, ain't it? No, that's Jamaican, ain't it?

What is Patois? That's Jamaican. What is? What is? Creole is French is black, and Patois is... Jamaican slang, ain't it? Patua. You know what?

I thought Patois was a French word. Patois is a English. No, he's a English. He knows shit. That's why he is. That's why he said to any former broken in there, but you had to Google that. That's what you got to understand. This is the coolest motherfucker in here, bro.

You know why? I never knew what he meant. Because he can draw Ninja Turtles, bro. Okay. My whole leg is Ninja Turtles. This whole... Any nigga who draw Dragon Ball Z, he'll kill you. Yeah.

He do that, bro. I got three pictures of Goku. I'm like, nah, you is a killer, my nigger. You're a killer, man. Hey, I used to. You were all. You did? You did?

The only thing I could draw when I was going. That's why you got that damn bad. That's why. That's a break in the nigger who grew up on Dragon Ball Z? Dude. You know why I fuck with them, though? You like that shit, too? That's why you shaved your face.

And he was going to and going through that shit. Like, what the fuck around with Klan, man? You know what made me start fucking with? Because them Dragon Ball Z niggas wasn't even big, bro. What they were? They were just little. They just fight like hell and be like this. It was too weird.

Can anybody keep up? Take you all. Take you all way in the scatter-whoop your ass all way back down to Earth Facts. There's some crazy fight scenes in that show. It left me with the Green Man. Piccolo? Piccolo's call. And I hate to say it, but he was represented for us, black people at that show,

because it wasn't those niggas in the show, really. I felt like he was like, they go Goku, bitch-ass. Hey, exactly, see those people. Bitch-ass, that was us. We had to be on there somehow. That's all we got. That's all I see the Green, man. I'm like, this one is always hating him, right?

He said, get mad at him. Yeah. He's cold, though. He's cold. Piccolo and the dude with the dingling on his head. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Musumbood. Baja, Bajibu. Yeah, okay, so who the baby, that was my partner?

Baby Goku. Baby Goku, yeah. So where did the people come out, like? So, Goldoo was supposed to be the main nigger, and then he ended up having baby Goku. Was that supposed to be like a mutant? Is that supposed to be like his little brother or was that his baby?

Yeah. What a girl? I don't think he had a girl. You made Thad break down the whole. Hey, but dude, that show is too long. I haven't watched, though. It's too long, bro. It's like a thousand episodes, bro.

So I didn't really get. They just evolved. He ain't got shit on Pokemon, thing. Fuck that shit. When Mew and Mew 2 came out, nigga? What? You're talking about the hardest nigga is. The nigga that's ain't.

Oh. What? Then Digimon came down. That was trash. Hey, man. I was like Yu-Gi-O, though, kind of. I kind of fucked with Yu-Gio a little bit. Was that after Digi-Man?

Yeah, that was after that. Yeah, they had to rebrand. and G. Munton, DJ Munster, man. Cut the shit off, man. Hey, who was the most powerful, those two twins in Dragon Ball Z, though? Remember, they were the alien guy? And they're just like, let's finish that planet, and they, like, put their hand

out of the whole planet. They were the most powerful characters in Dragon Ball Z. Come on, on, guys. Come on, guys. It was two, it was twins. It was twins, and they ran the whole, like, universe. Them two would just sit there, and they'd be like, who want to kill that plant. Come on.

He don't know. We're going to have to look it up. Somebody took it up. Oh, Android 17, is that where they are? Yeah. They were, like, running shit, bro. Walk around and they found out that and know all this shit.

Hey, but on some real shit, D.C., don't J.O.N. look like Devin'Haney Daddy. Why you do Floyd like that, my boy? You don't floyd. Hey, let's talk about that fight. Before we do that, we got to say this. Welcome back to the 85 South Show. That's true.

Yeah, absolutely. That's my nigga, man. That's my nigga, man. I don't want to go. I ain't see it. I ain't see it. Before we even get into this, man, we got a very special guest in here with us today, man. This is like family, bro.

We didn't watch this motherfucker grow up to be a grown-ass man. So he grownish now. Super talented, great actor, phenomenal singer, hell of a young man, bro. He stopped by the 85 South Show before he got up out of here, none other than my cousin Nell. Trevor Jackson, bro. Hey!

Hey! Nicky, here's the baby. Oh, should tell him, Nicky, Mike. Hey, D.C., I told him earlier, bro. Once I seen him on there singing with the dangling it ring, I knew he was out of here. You know, only that I knew he was out of here when it's actually good because, bro, we got this persona about our,

I don't know why in the black culture. You're only good at one thing. And that's it, nigga, don't you pick nothing else. Right. We should be able to give honor to motherfuckers they can do multiple. Right, yeah, yeah. And help them groom that talent, right, right, right.

So when you're actually good, when it's like, damn, you really can do both. Either and one of them could have taken you out of any situation that you wanted to go. But when I saw you, I was like, no, it's beyond that a nigger trying to do music. It's a motherfucker who do music. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You get what I'm saying? Man, let's get a brief rundown, bro. You say you've been at this entertainment business for 20 years.

You're seven years old. No one is your introduction to it. production to us. Tap dancing. Tap dancing was the first thing. And you know what? I've fallen in love with tap dancing and I've gotten older, and especially being a black man, I realized that was the first time we were on stage ever, you know, to get paid, going

to a club. Niggas had to go up there. Even at that where black men, we had tapped. And so just the history of that. But I fell in love with it and I was like, okay, who do I really love? You know, who's great at tapping? That was Gregory Hines was the first guy that I saw. Oh, yeah.

I don't know how you skip right over, Samuel Davis, Jones, Jones, and all. No, I didn't skip. There's so many. There's so many. He was the most talented motherfucker. I know you were talented. I didn't know you were tap dancers. Sing, dance, motherfucking act, do impersonations,

anything that had to do with entertainment. Same and David's Jr. can do that shit. Yeah, you're talking to this too? Mm-hmm. Oh. I'm gonna put me in this shit. What the hell? Bad as fuck, I'm crying to every...

Every day I didn't want to go. What's it did. Keep on Tate! Keep on Tate! But Gregory has been there in this shit. Dude, yeah, no, Gregory Hines fell over him, and I was like, okay, he's on TV, so I want to act and sing in the movie I was watching.

I was like, all three of these things, so I want to be the only guy. And then I did a local show in Indiana. I did a Broadway show in line came for like three years and I toured. Thank you, bro. And then doing that kind of was like, I'm seeing everybody at the top of their field. The dancers in there went to Alvinaneli, all the singers, you know, they all just are the top of the line and I got to just see work ethic and just hard work.

And then I fell in love with it. I was like, I got to do this rest in my life. I'll never forget I was on stage. I was eight years old. And I was probably thinking about what I was going to eat later. You know, I've done the shows many time. But I remember looking at the front row and everybody was just smiling.

I was like, no matter what they were going through today, they got here and they were like happy. And it was like, just if I'm on stage doing something I love to do. I was like, why wouldn't I do that for the rest of my life? That's part. It's kind of the beginning of the, I don't want to give the whole thing.

We'll be here four days later. We got a time, but that's great. You say Broadway. Yeah. That's where, because I can see it. The theatrical and you speak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's also anxiety and ain't sure.

Try to figure out why I'm here on Earth or Rock and Space. But tell the people, a lot of people skip over theater. Yeah. And the only thinking is just like, okay, movies and all that. Like, no, that is a real fundamental. You can make the whole lyric off of that.

Yeah, no. Lots of, yeah, a lot of money off that. But also, to me, that's the hardest work. Because I feel like anybody, you guys can agree, you guys want to kill it every time you do anything. I want to do my best job. So if you got to go every day and do your best job, you can't go out after, you got to go home.

We probably can't talk. Every boy's going to be going. It's just so much discipline. I just went back and I had to do, I did like a week-long run of tapped-in kid, which was a huge Broadway show back in the 80s, and I did it back in the beginning of last year. And that was the hardest thing I've done in my life. It was the hardest thing I've done in my life. What you say to? Because I mean, I was the, when I was young, I was

only the first hour of the show. And now that I'm older, I'm doing the first half and the second half, had like five songs. I was the whole show. And I was just exhausted. I was tired. I was like, man, I don't want to go tomorrow. I want to sleep. Um, and so, but yeah, man, I think, uh, Broadway's a different thing, man. It's a different, it's a different beats entirely. So I commend all Broadway people. What's your favorite Broadway show? Probably Lion King, man, just because I was, because I did it. Yeah, but have you seen Michael Jackson?

Yeah, I did. Amazing. I loved it. You seen it? I loved it. What? Yeah. And Lion King was still better?

I got to go, come on now, because I got to see it. Hey, we can't, we're Michael Jackson fans, though. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You ain't seen Michael Jackson did. But I heard he was killing it, though. Doing the Michael Jackson's. I've seen that shit. Oh, you're talking about in New York?

Yeah. It was good, bro. In that production, I've never seen, yeah. I want to see, you know how I'm a real entertainer. I'm studying shit. I want to see and she going to do this shit every time. This motherfucker. Don't miss a cue.

This nigga, it's Michael, nigga. Every time he was, excuse me. You have to win it. Bro, bro. You ain't see Mike then. Yeah. Bitch, Mike there. Yeah, it was really, really good.

It was amazing stuff. That shit fired. Amazing show. Amazing. They said Spider-Man was the worst Broadway show of all time. Spider-Man? How'd hate you going to have a nigga flying on stage? It's hard, it's hard.

It's hard. It's hard. Harry Potter was good. I never saw that. There was a Harry Potter, brother. Did you see Fattenmore Opera? No, that's, fuck. These still has been sneaking and going to Broadway shows and shit. I'm a theater major.

You know, I could never have shown my talent. I was there. I was there. What was your intro to the TV, though? To the actor. Um, dude, so I moved down. out to L.A. when I was 11 years old, and when I first moved there, they went into some strikes. So, like, the first two years, I didn't really get nothing. But I was auditioned

a bunch, and then I think my first drive was, like, a T-M-O commercial, and I think I said text. And I screamed. That's how quick it was, man. It came on just real quick. And it cut to a bunch of other stuff, and I remember me and my mom was like, oh, TV, right? It's just funny now, you know what I'm saying? You're like, oh, man, but it's wild. That was probably, like, my first being on TV, but my first TV show was Cold Case, and I Played some, like, little ragamuffin, a little hood rat who got killed. I was a tagger, like a spray painter guy. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I didn't think you were. Where was it? Oh, Colgate, right? Do you lie to me? Are they all real stories? Cole case.

I don't know. I have no idea. Maybe it is. Maybe it is. I had no idea. I was like, where are they making this? Joseph, he was only 14. Joseph, only 14.

He was a lie to my God. God, Stein, 25, Chal. But he caught to that. He saw himself back up in his back to him. He's still a lot. I know that ain't Joseph. Joseph.

That'd be fine. Let me see you're coming here. Let's start me. But that's crazy to go from just having just a commercial with one line and now you're on TV doing seasons. Yeah, yeah. Love stories and love sales.

Kissing and being somebody's love interests and shit, man. It's crazy. I've been trying to work on myself and just be more grateful for that, you know? Because now I feel like you get it too. Like we've been doing it for so long. He's like, man, whatever. You got to be like, wow, we did it. Like, we're here. I'm just trying to celebrate myself more and appreciate the moments and just live in them because, you know, you do one thing. You're like, man, that's not a good enough. Next thing, next thing, next thing. How can I be better? How can I do more? Instead of just being like, man, that's tight and being proud. You know what I'm saying? Celebrate living the moment.

Yeah, yeah. Took a minute. I try to learn that. But I, sometimes it takes away from craft when you're so busy celebrating because, I guess, because you know where we come from, it comes from, that can be the last. Yeah, you feel you. So it's like, I got to, I let people celebrate for me and then allow the legacy to live and you go home and be like, I guess. Because I ain't like, I watch myself to see what am I doing. I'm like, yeah, I want to do that.

I could have tilted my head. Because it's also what you're thinking, because you don't see yourself when you're doing your job, right? Right, so now you start to associate, hey, when I'm feeling this or that, that's how it looks. So I get what you mean when you're watching it back. But to celebrate yourself, it doesn't have to be like going out and being like having the best, but it's you being in the mirror being like, hey, nigga, I love you, hey, man, I'm proud of you. Hey, man, good job.

Hey, man, you're strong. Hey, you did it. And, you know, sometimes we don't even give ourselves that. I didn't tell myself, I was proud of myself until I was 24. I paused in the mirror. Like, damn, why have, everybody else told me this. I ain't never said. Self-appreciate.

You know what I mean? So, got to definitely do that. Fat. What? I don't cry. I thought to laugh at. I didn't know. I was going to be. I'm like, what he? I don't know him like. I don't know. I'm going to stop like that. I thought he was about to laugh at first. Don't think he was going to be. I don't know. Don't you do it. I'm going to go look in the mirror because I don't never stop. I just do that shit and keep going. Yeah, no, you got to take that. I don't really take the moments to be like, like, Damn, we came so far.

Yeah, bro. It's powerful. It's the joy. I mean, I guess that's the appreciation. Everybody appreciates it a little different. I feel like my appreciation comes from when I know that you don't overcome so much. And God don't continuously to bless you and keep giving you the strength to keep on going. So I'd be at the house like, I know I'm strong.

You know, I put on the face when I go outside. Like, when I go home, I be like, these nays are going to stay. Yeah, right. They don't feel a, nigga, pain, you know what I'm saying? And I'm having to let that shit out. I'm like, yeah, nigga, yeah. Now, straight up and go back out there and go ten times hard. 100%.

See, you got it, like, I know both of y'all, though, you get it on both sides from what, the act and accomplishments, and then you go to the music with this, you know what I'm saying? Especially when any other. I mean, come on, a man can sing, he'll write, do all this stuff, so I know, like, it hurts when you see people maybe, We're just not, and you're like, why are y'all? I don't get it.

I don't get it. He said, that's pretty, you didn't hear this? Do you have ears? Sometimes this can you hate on a nigga bless. But you know, that's my, that's my life. And there you go. But so, like you're saying, when you get home, you're like, man, what the, you know? But I think that just makes us better.

We just keep keeping our head down and put the work in, and it'll happen in God's time. But I definitely understand that struggle and that pain, you know? That drives us. Yeah, for real. But that goes back to us saying, why should we, prove ourselves when the talent is already in front of you. So it's more so of us

saying the music is good, you know it's good, we have to prove you for you to tell me. I got to prove you for you to tell me. You're like, oh, well, you pulled it out, man. You really good. Yeah, right, right. Why have to pull it out? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'm gonna tell you straight up. Hey, boy, that shit, fine. Yeah, yeah. I can pull that shit out of me. Right, right. That's got your motivation.

But then, going back to you, talking about us, so I think it's hard for us to give you. Like, we only think there can only be one. It can only be a and just unity. We need more of it, especially when it comes to that kind of stuff. I say it continues to go, go hard, continues to strive for the best because we're living in a different time

now where the Greeks is overshadowing and all the bullshit. So it's like you can hit all the bullshit but then as long as you keep going, that's why I said, first thing I just said, this talented motherfucker here, he do this, he do that.

Before we say anything, I'm going to tell you what I see. Off top, Whatever you're selling, I bought it. You feel me? I'm not coming here asking you what you got. Yeah, right, right. I'm coming here and saying what you're offering.

Yeah, right, right, right. You see what I'm saying? So we got to be like that more so as consumers is saying, and instead of saying they're like, you're only good at one thing because that's the only thing that I want from you. Yeah, that's the only thing. Right, right. This is my life.

And that's what I tell me, too, don't create for, I mean, people I guess you can, but for me, like, when I'm making music, I'm not making it for nobody with me. I make music to survive, all this stuff I can't say. how loud or that I'm heard about that I don't know how to like, you know, I make a song and I feel better about it. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney,

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and this is Vine, six seconds that changed the world. The untold story of genius, betrayal and the app that died so that TikTok could thrive. From overnight stars to the fall that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic. Listen to Vine on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on. Well, I lost my job and my parakeet is missing. How is your day? But the real world is different. Managing life's challenges can be overwhelming. So what do we do? We get support.

The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council have mental health resources available for you at loveyourmindtay.org. That's loveyourmindtay.org. See how much further you can go when you take care of your mental health. Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the movie pass era?

Where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents. and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators

who are left out of the tech headlines. Like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of movie pass the company that he founded. His story is wild and it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary.

We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, Those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt, they're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a Black founder. Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you.

I created There Are No Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There Are No Girls on the Internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But I wanted to say, too, about all the stuff that maybe people aren't noticing now, the good news is once they do, recognize and they go back, everything's going to do. Up to that point. And that's what makes a legend, right? A consistency. It can be you're going to be a flash in the pan and maybe have a hit or two or have a good movie here and there, but when you go back and like,

hey, they're this, this, this, this, this, they just kind of, those are your legs that stand on. The body of work. Yeah, exactly, exactly. What do you see yourself? Like, what does ever once? I want to, oh, man, I, uh, is this big. It's huge idea. It's something big. I just want to be

a part of the good side of life. I just know there's a lot people that are trying to destroy love and good things. I want to, like, be on the other side of that war. And I know that's why I'm here, you know, to just promote self-love, freedom, and creativity. But yeah, man, I want some Grammings. I want some Oscars, you know what I mean? Take it out of those.

To do the Charlie Chaplin, which is produce, direct, composed, and star in my own movie, write it, and, you know, whatever that day. It's all right. Yeah, that'll be time. You've been working on your own movie. Oh, dude, I'm like started and then I got a bunch of like starts. What he does? He don't know I watch everything.

You do it in your music video. Right, true, true, true. Those are all that stuff. I think what you did with slow-mo and all the other extra stick was going on. That was the first thing I directed music wise. You said why? Yeah, yeah. You directed it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you see that was the video I brought up. Yeah, thanks, man. You directed it. Yeah. And that was the video I brought up. Yeah, yeah. Thanks, man.

That was definitely, yeah, I was just like, man, what would you do, like, for someone that you love at the end of the world? Like, it was like, what's going on? And I feel like that's life, too. You know, you don't have comments. Girls are going to be trying to hit me up, guys will hit you up. There's going to be a lot of, like, people coming out of us. As long as it's like this, and I see you through all the beers and you see me, right? That was kind of like what I wanted to represent.

That's your part. So how do you balance it, though? Like, you know, from half, that's two different careers. Yeah. How do you split the time in between music and acting? You know, I kind of let God do that. I feel like everything happens in the right time, and that's why I'm just like,

I kind of like to sit back, and I laugh at myself when I try to get in my own way. Because there'll be times like, like, let's say I go through a breakup, and then I'm, like, depressed, and then the next day, I don't really look at the script before I go. You know what I'm on my line?

We're going to say, going crazy. But, uh, so then I get to sit the next day, and the scene is a breakup scene. Damn. And I'm like, what? And I go in there, and I basically let everything I've been holding in all night out.

I got to say a line, boom, and the people come to my copy. they're thinking I went crazy I'm like I just sit in some real shit I'm sad I'm really fucking sad I'm really fucking sad I'm like damn that's how I'll be working

you know you just never know what the purpose is so I think both things have showed up in my life when I've needed them and it's all been for me I think to be able to just release because I think when you're creative

and you love hard you hurt the deepest you hurt the deepest hurts and so you're just trying like how can I how do I relieve myself at this and then I'll present moments like that. You give you outlets, and that's why I say to go back to you being so talented.

Like you said, the music gave you an outlet to not bawled a lot of things in. But you still have things in, but when you're an actor, the emotion is there. Right, right, right. The passion is in the music. Yeah, exactly. You can't cry and sing. But you're going to cry because you feel it. Yeah.

This is real. Yeah, yeah. They don't know it's real until you give it to it. Yeah, exactly. But when you're acting, they're like, oh, I know it's real. But it's like, now I've got to put emotion into it, but I already know the emotion coming from. Yeah, yeah. I never released it yet, but now I have a character that I can relate to.

Exactly, exactly. I'm fin to hit him in the head. Yeah, exactly. You see what I'm saying? Without even trying to hit him in the head. That's when you do it too. You feel me? And it's coming.

I was gonna ask you this, I see you got your mom with you. Yeah, yeah, sorry, all the jingling and jangling. Motherfucking. Boat with everything? Hey, boy, I did the same, boy. So as I walked this, boy, we bought your ass in a way. We fucked with you, but who did you? We fucked with you.

is I bought a boat from his daddy. Oh, for real. Been knowing him since he was a little boy. He turned down a job at ABC to do this shit. You ain't the police, bitch. Hell no. Hell no. Shit, we gotta add that shit.

Not what I was saying, you're required to tell us. You got mom with you and she's been with you through the whole journey. Oh, yeah, man, she's a queen. I wanted you to speak on navigating through Hollywood and then keeping the family close. You know, a lot of people who grow up,

especially like child actors and they come up through Hollywood. Yeah. see like nobody around them that's family that love them for real brus so you know what's been that what's been your journey with that as far as keeping the family close dude my whole family i'm super duper grateful and as you go through life and you meet more people more families you realize how special yours is um and i just i have no words for it you know since i was young just support love and protection um i talked to my dad on the phone every day my older brother is a part of my business

my mom's been a part of my business and they just keep it real with me and they love me regardless That's why I'm at. And I think that's why I always went them around because I feel free to create, you know? I feel like, you know, if you don't feel safe, it's always like there's a filter. But it's like, hey, man, if I know, even if I don't get this job, even if people don't listen to my music, I go home and I have a family that I love and that I love being around and that help me be a better person. I help them. Then that's really what life is about.

This stuff is the tools, right? But the, the thick of it is that, you know, you want to be. I got a question for mom, did you feel like you had to extra protect a young girl? black boy coming up through Hollywood, like, what was that? He had a kid, too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he didn't go anywhere without me. And when his brother was old enough, he goes with him, obviously, not trying to bring his mom to him to lose school points.

But I feel like you have to, any kids, period. Yeah. You saw the documentary that just came out. Nickelodeon shit. Yeah. Yeah. Nuts. Just people would try to stop you from going. And I was like, no.

wherever he does, I am. Yeah, they would. They'd be like, you staying here. And I'm like, no. No. That is crazy. We're not doing that. We thank you for being strong.

Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Mom. Thank you. But we just see, like, how toxic the environment can be. Dude, super. Right in front of the parents right under their nose. Like, yeah, y'all stay back here, you're all cool. And then it's bullshit going on in the other room.

Even if it ain't like the perverse type crazy shit, they still pushing you too hard, or making you work beyond, you know, the pay scale and shit like that. Exactly. Mentally, people don't understand, like, the dollar. They put so much power on the dollar. They will be little themselves and diminish any type of morality that you have for the money. For the fucking dollar.

Once you realize, once you do that, it makes you feel even worse. Yes, 100%. So it lets you know that you shouldn't even done that from the job. Yeah, never for the money, dude. I tell everybody, don't do it for the money. Don't do it for the girl. Don't do it for the car. Don't do it for the house.

Because it's not going to sustain. That's not sustainable, man. You got a lot of Hollywood. friends? Since you started so young. When you say friends, that's a strong word. I would say peers then. I know a lot of people, yes.

You're going through the industry. And it sucks because niggas that you do think are your friends. And I've had this happen to me recently, no names, but like a nigga that I was thought my brother told stuff I never told nobody. I'm finding out we might mess with the same room. He telling the girl all my personal. No. Yeah.

Niggit, this happened recently. I was like, wait, huh? No. Even when I told my family, he's like, no, he wouldn't do that. I said. Yes, he did it. He did it. And my heart was like,

pillow talking, like, boom, boom, boo, boom. Bro, pillow talking or not even went in a bed, just anywhere. And then I'm finding, oh, man, it just hurt my soul, bro. It hurt my soul. And there you go back to the family stuff. Like, why your family so close? I don't know she would, my brother, nobody would ever do something like that. Yeah.

So, yeah, man, it sucks. What I was getting at is like, you ever just look up and be like, damn, whatever happened? Fuck, whatever happened then? He's a sister-s-it-sit. Dude, there's a story no names, but the guy that was my, also my brother, and I saw him, you know, a few years later on the street, bro.

And I'm talking about on the street, like, nails longer than the, you know what I mean? Are you laughing? It was that long. I'm just kidding, I didn't want to make a laugh. But, no, but, like, he was gone, bro. And I'm looking at him in his eyes, and it's not him. You know what I'm saying?

And that killed me, too. I'm just like, what? Drugs. I think drugs did it? I think it was something here, though, already, you know, And then it kind of maybe, like, switched. You don't know, it's three things that's going to self-destruct you. You got drugs.

Yeah. You got life. Yeah, I've seen a nigga spend off life. And you're like, oh, wait a minute. Like, I thought you were strong enough to deal with any situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You dig what I'm saying? And then it's just like themselves on, they're putting the wrong energy toward things.

Yeah, yeah. They don't even know they're dragging their self-down. Exactly. It's self-destruction. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, I knew to stay away from drugs. Yeah. And I knew that anything that I could deal with whether it's heavy or not.

I got God on my side. Yeah, he's with you, he's with you, he's with you. To drain me, and then I know myself. Yeah. So I got to know, I want to react to that. Yeah. I ain't too perfect. Yeah, yeah, right.

So why would I go over there knowing that I know me? Yeah. I'm not going to say he did it. I did that to myself because I went over there and involved myself in that situation. Yeah, exactly. And they got me out of character. I'm the only one to blame. Yeah, exactly me.

Yeah. People do do that. They do try to blame other people, man. Oh. Yeah, I know people to this day, you know, maybe didn't make it in basketball, so that, man, if it wasn't for the ball, if it wasn't for it. No, you wasn't supposed to, not only that, you stop.

Yeah. Dreaming. Yeah. You stop. You allow somebody to stop you from thinking that you could. Yeah. Because I said to this, if I would have knew that Michael Jordan would have got cut, I would have kept going.

Yeah. When I got cut, it was like. You felt like it was over. Yeah. I was like, oh, but that's the power of belief. That's the power of the mind, bro. You know what I mean? And that's why I think that's our jobs as creators and black men.

Like, we're just showing people that it's, possible. In the minute that you do, that's how crazy humans are, because we're like group creatures. Like, you see, it's like, hey, oh, we can do that? Oh, okay. Easy. Your body will just, you know? I remember the first time I saw somebody do a backflip. I was like, oh, I can do a backflip then. Because it's possible. I just saw somebody do it. Yeah. Did you do it? I didn't land good, but I got over, though. The top, you know what I mean? I didn't land on my head, but I was like, I got close enough to be like, ooh, okay. Right, right, right. You were the confidence. Yeah, yeah. You was just saying you when it spoke about mental health to the college kids, man. What are the, what are some of the things that you do to keep your mind short?

Therapy, man. I recommend everybody go to therapy. I think it's the most powerful thing. There's so much strength in it. And I think, yeah, just having somebody to talk to an unbiased opinion is really, really positive. I try to do breathing. There's super deep breaths, you know what I mean, in the morning. If I'm still in, like,

stress out, overwhelmed, I try and just breathe. Yeah, man, there's so many different things that you can do, but those are kind of the main things. I was surfing until I tore my Achilles. That was something I did almost every weekend. I'd be out there for hours in the ocean. I do, but I'm As soon as I'm healed, I can.

But I got a, I tore my Achilles. Like, recent? Yeah, yeah, two days after Christmas, bro. Surfing? Yeah, no, no, playing basketball. Oh, okay, okay. Did you want to? You got to keep doing all that.

Yeah, you know what? Exactly. Hey, you got the move. You've been or what? No, he's just a talented. Come on a fucking, right? Come on, dude. Come on, man.

Hey, this. Oh, that watch it out for shows, you shit. When I know this, this is different, one day when that nigga went to Colorado. And we didn't know how you just be on like, it was like Christmas break or some shit. Yeah. Motherfucking be like, man, we got his skin,

we fucking off. You know, he's doing the latrini shit. Then I seen this thing come down the mountain going on. I was like, oh, this thing will be completely different. Nobody else on this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, like this thing, he got this good.

Just by watching this shit, that was hit their head, bro. Pick it up that quick. You got a photographic memory, yeah. You know, that nigga, man. I said, boosh, boosh, boosh,

shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo. Then the first time they're like, oh shit. Yeah, scared. You're scared, you're scared. This nigga on there on Pigabooch Street ass, right? Looking like a chastick commercial on the evening,

where we got that? I'm in Colorado, you said that. I love that shit. That's the only thing I haven't done on a board, bro, is snowboarding in order to like skin. Snowboarding line with that shit, because I need control both my legs. It's kind of scared they're both locked in there.

It's hard. But with them ski, All right, one leg go this way I still got that motherfucker We still can balance it out But I love that shit I'm an outdoor man Yeah, tired, bro

Dude, we got to get you I'm surfing, man I want you on some ways, bro Come on, man, come on I'm gonna lie I'm kind of stick to what I know I kind of be happy You know how you just be like

I'm an athlete But I don't want to be like I can do everything Right, right right I'll let you do your shit I'll be proud of you No, go go go We need more people in the water

man I'm in the water I'm not out there You see that little line I don't go past the light I don't go past the light No brother I had to swim last summer

So we've been going on vacation This shit You've been sick and getting left Swimming in the ocean my nigga I don't like that shit It's different There's current here It's the salt

The salt is gone I don't fuck with I guess I'm You think the salt When the salt get on my brownness And then I get out of the water And then the sun I feel like they're trying to cook me

I don't It should feel like you'd be in some broth Or something But let me tell you about That salt though That salt good for me Really good for you. If you ever think you're sick.

The people don't understand. He brings you by steel waters to restore your soul. Yeah, understand. Jump in. Jump in. Jump in. Water. I want more than cold.

You ain't got the cold. No. No, seriously, though. When you get out of the water, all that shit can't have enough. Clean, clean you out. Bro, you're right. You're not wrong. The flu.

It's out. You're not wrong at all, dude. I'll tell you, that's real. That's real talk. That's why people buy the Caribbean or anything. They don't be sick. They're healthy and fuck. You think you sit, man, gonna take a dive in that water.

In the ocean, yeah. And I always tell people, I was like, y'all feel like I'm baptized every time I go surf. When I get out, I'm just feel cleansed. I feel like, okay, let go, something like, ooh, something. And it's cold in L.A., so it's, you know, people say that's some of the best. You're surfing in L.A. Yeah, yeah.

The fuck is wrong with you. That's some of the dangerous water out there. There's sharks out of all the shots. Yeah, a lot of sharks, yeah. It's the adventure, man. I love it, L. Is that the Pacific Ocean over there? Yeah.

Is that, yeah, I think so. Yeah, Pacific on this head, Atlantic on those. No, so you've been over there about Venice? What are you in? I'm in Malibu, North from Alibu. Dude, I've seen pictures, though. Like, I've served today, and then people have sent me, like, reports from, like, the helicopter. And there's been, like, big boys.

Big boys right, right by you. Like, hey, yeah. I love the good guy. My type of dude. And that was me growing up, that's my whole family. They're like, you do all the white sports. You're skateboard. I was the first naked wear skinny jeans.

I'll say that. I was the first thing to wear skinny jeans. I was 10 years. old, nine years old, everybody made fun of my family. Now everybody works people. Do you watch that certain movie that was on Disney Channel? Oh, Johnny Tsunami? Johnny Summa.

Come on, niggas. He was like a trend day. Oh, man. You know that nigger was the one in Mortal Kombat. The guy who played his granddad with Shane's son. Your soul is mind. That was his granddad and that. No.

Johnny Sunami. Yeah. Two niggins from the same generation. Johnny Sonami was shit. I was 96. He right now Yeah, he's right under you He's good

92, yeah, he was up there You know what I was doing at 96 What did you do? I was just playing with the little cooja Just right on the top In 96 We were still fingering

Yeah, we were fingering in 96 Because I remember we was And like in 95 The biggest shit on Sega was NBA Live 95 That was the shit So then 96 that was Sega, right? So that was going to the movie.

that was playing with a coochie, we were sucking one titty. Okay. Not both, no. Till one. One. That time you said titty, you passed. Ah.

Now there's a kid on the sand. They're just sensitized. We couldn't have Instagram. I didn't want it. I was jacking out earlier. Eight miles? Eight mild, that scene at eight mile? That used to be my scene.

I used to try and find little scenes in a look. I didn't even know what I'm doing. What I'm doing? So much shit going on. So much shit going on. Hey, a lot. I feel like I'm going to be doing this stuff. Yo, Instagram is crazy, man, yeah.

Your girl got so much ass and tinnies on it. It's nice. You remember when they head that shit from a, that girl can touch your knee. Yeah. That shit. Oh, oh my god. Oh, shit.

Her whole knee on my knee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For real. I know she liked me, but her hand touch your leg. Oh, yeah. Dude, not my nephew. My nephew, my nephew be telling me stuff he'd be doing that shit. What?

How? How? shit did what? You ain't scared? 13, 14? What? What? You're watching that shit not? It's nuts. I'm glad that shit wasn't that one. That was a kid. Yeah, I feel like my life would have been a little different. That would have been terrible. It would have been bad. It would have been bad. Oh, my goodness. I have a question for you guys.

Phone-wise with your kids. Like, when you let them have electronics and access talk? I'm always... I mean, my daughter got a phone knock. I need to know because the world's crazy. But, you know, it's good with the apps. I can delete shit. Okay, okay. You don't get on the internet. You don't get to do all that. No, no, no. You have little games. You got a little phone.

Okay, okay. You better be glad that ain't getting no flip phone. No, that what's the gym? Open, close. With the, I fly, you get four buttons, one for your freaking people. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was my phone at first.

Yeah. You only had like three-four numbers in that bitch. Yeah. I don't let her do too much. At the house, you watch a lot of educational shit. Tight, tight, tight. She's smart. Because I want to, you know, obviously, I want to have kids one day,

but I'm just like, I get scared. You know, the way the world is like, how do I navigate? How do I navigate? They're trying to tell you how to raise your kids. You got a whole mama right there. Girl, just give her the baby. No, you got to give me to it. Here you go, mama, I got to go out.

Come on, baby. Do what you're dead for me. Show it, show it. Hell yeah. Bring them babies home, man. Yeah, it takes advantage to raise them now. Yeah, yeah. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney.

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You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories.

I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you, stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your Do you remember Vine? It changed the internet forever, and it vanished in its prime. I'm Benedict Townsend, and this is Vine, six seconds that changed the world. The untold story of genius, betrayal, and the app that died so that TikTok could thrive.

From overnight stars to the fall that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic. Listen to Vine on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the Movie Pass era? Where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents, and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines,

like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spike. who was pushed out of movie pass the company that he founded. His story is wild that it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary. We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt, they're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a Black founder.

Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like. like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created There Are No Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There Are No Girls on the Internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on. Well, I lost my job and my parakeet is missing. How is your day? But the real world is different. Managing life's challenges can be overwhelming. So, what do we do?

We get support. The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council have mental health resources available for you at loveyourmindtay.org. That's loveyourmindtay.org. See how much further you can go when you take care of your mental health. But now your children get to see where the wisdom come from.

They just don't see that, oh, it's just a one-sided thing. They know it's like, this is how you got to walk. This is how you got to talk. I know my dad was a good man because my grandma was a good one. Right, right, right, right. You feel it, and I knew it came from a line of, oh, his sister. His sisters are real women. Yeah, right.

We come from women that wore stockings. Exactly. Now, that's different right there. That's different. Try to go on that find some shit that match your skin. I got some stock in that match shit. You got some stock in that match this color? No count.

Trying to find some match your skin is crazy. What? No count. But it shows, like, even with you, because your mama was there. You did what I'm saying? about her being around you, she didn't allow you to deteriorate for what she was instilling in. Yeah, yeah, right, right, right, right. Because you knew that the life that you was about to get in default be.

And they don't care about you. They don't care about you. It's money. They don't care about you. Monetary game. They're not your friend. Yeah. They don't want to see you succeed.

And that's what sucks is when you're young, you really think that what they're saying, I remember when I was, you know, going, like, in meeting with different labels and stuff, what they'll say to a kid. And now that I'm older, I'm like, I would never promise her say these things to a child. Like, I remember when I was, uh, I was mean with certain people, and they were like, hey, get your own, uh, shoe design. They brought two ladies in there and drew up a shoe with T.J. on it. This is going to be your shoe brand. All right. Put that away. Bring some of it. You know, just lying. Give you to just lying to me. Right. You know, that's like, wow. But that's building your head. They got to make their phone call and be like, did you get several with Jackson? Did you get him? Yeah. Yeah. We're working on it. Send him another shoe. Yeah. Send him a shoe. But it's just crazy. Yeah. But I want to create eventually, like, you know, a label.

And, like, you know, actually, I understand, you know, the vision and what it's like to be a kid trying to, you know, because it's a dream. You moved to L.A. You're seeing people, like, oh, my God. You know, you kind of believe everything everyone tells you. But you got to be a part of one of the, like, the biggest new shows for the last couple years. Thanks, man. With the Blackish series. Brunch, yeah.

Man, what's been your experience with it? It's been amazing, dude. That's become my family. I got to meet this guy on there. Me and him and Dig were acting. We were acting out. We were acting at. Yeah, but that's what I think a job should be.

You should be like when you guys come here, you guys just have fun with people you enjoy, people that you respect. But yeah, man, I played that character for six years. I love it. Shout out to Kenyon, shout out to Yard. Everybody did. And I'm ready for the next thing, though. You know what I mean? So how did that go?

Because at first it was going to be a couple seasons, but then it was so great. It was so good that they had to continuously continue to write. Yeah, yeah, yeah. After season after season. How did y'all build that chemistry and that dynamic? It built the whole franchise. That's what I'm saying. I'm writing on the, I'm on the, everybody.

everybody get grown, they can do brokish. Oh, that'd be hard. Motherfucking be out here just struggling. Brokish is hard. Hey, brokish is kind of hard. You ain't fucked up, but you're kind of like, he's a lot better right now. He has a great idea.

For real. Brokish is kind of hard. That's fire. Yeah, that is. But I think, yeah, man, I think everybody just loved what we do. And so you're spending all day with these people. And like I said, they just...

What a fuck are your drink, go? You, Dr. Pepperman? That's my grandma's favorite drink. For real. People who smoke cigarette drink drink, Dr. Pepper. I'm going to smoke fucking cigarette. They got to take that nicotine down.

Need some frown to grab that nicotine. Funny and shit, niggins on Twitter said, Dr. Pepper tastes like barbecue water. That's hilarious. That's funny. It's the after taste. It does a little barbecue water. There's a little barbecue to the aftertake.

Man, we got a pitch broken to them, bro. That's hard, bro. That's a go. I'd love that. That's fire. Any movie or shows, y'all have been watching? you really like that you just seen and you were like that was yellowstone hard

the last shit that I watched recently on Netflix that shit called unlocked where they in jail and the motherfuckers unlocked all the gates all the sales and shit it's a show or it's real it's real I can't watch jail show that shit fuck yeah I don't want to watch

I don't like to watch people in cages yeah no you need to watch it so because you need to know that we need shit like that no I know it's crazy we need No, I don't. It's some motherfuckers I don't want outside with me. More definitely. Lock a lot of these motherfuckers up.

I know exactly what you mean. I wish they was underground. I don't even want these motherfuckers. They don't need some. They got the underground, motherfucker too. No care. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, some of these motherfuckers don't need to be around.

That's like you fuck me up. Yeah. I can't get jig with white, like, being glad that people are in jail. I know what you mean. I just can't fight. I get in jail. So Yellowstone? Everybody's not supposed to be in there, but some motherfuckers need to be in there.

No cap. I've been watching Shogun, bro. It's phenomenal. You watch it? It's on me the app. So what is on? Bro, Hulu. Oh, shit, I ain't got it.

It's, you got a Hulu? You got it. Okay, we got to get Disney Plus and Hulu, man, because that they just merged, so then you get one from two banks. I got Amazon. I got all that shit on. But I'm sure, yeah, if it's on Amazon. But, dude, Shogun is hard. Amazon, be bushing, because they'll go around and all the networks, though.

By every fucking movie. No, and when you do a season, it's every episode. I'm like, and I'm four Amazon pride. Don't get me wrong now. We love Amazon. There's a couple of movies on that, what I'm saying here, I love Amazon. I got pride and everything game pride.

What I'm trying to say. And then you got at the top, like, I know you were like this, if you could even have in it. Yeah. It's $8.99. Why the free movie is at? They'd be trying to get you.

Oh, shit. They be getting you. Welcome to Colorado. This shit came out of 18. Watch all this shit, man. But show gun, man. It's about 1600s back in Japan and how the English, like, we're battling the Portuguese, and then they're going to try and take over Japan?

Yeah. And it's like, you know, them think, I'm going to be honest, guys. The Asian culture back in that time, Chinese, they didn't care, bro. They were ready to die on everything. They just spilled a cup. You know what? I'm going to kill myself. You're all ready?

I'm like, what? Calm down, dude. You just spilled a drink. You'll be all right. Just say you're sorry, but they don't play that. It's on Hulu, man. It was deep. I need somebody to pay it with it.

Yeah, I'll give you a password. All right, send him on. What you got coming up next, man? What's next? So he don't know the single came out yesterday. The, thank you, thank you, thank you. The EP, the next EP drops May 14th, and then summertime I'm dropping the album then. So if you guys are in LA, I love for you to be.

I'm trying to do a huge, I've never really done this, but I want to do like a huge, like, 30. Oh, man, all of us, but what up? Yeah, please, please. You're bringing everybody, man. I already know the music going to be good. I want to hear this shit. Thanks, bro, thanks. Thanks, bro.

You need to produce you. You know Jay and win go crazy. For real? Look at it. They didn't know that. Oh, you play? Sing. And he looked like dude dead, so.

We ain't even talking about the fight, bro. Oh, please. Okay, thoughts. How do you? That's my boy, man. I didn't watch you. He came on the show. I really wanted Devon.

Oh, for real? Yeah. I ain't saying that I don't know Ryan. Fuck Ryan. I work with Bill and Devon. They came on the show. I don't know Ryan Garcia. I know.

That motherfucker was crazy. I don't be honest with you. I thought it was going to. Why? Why did the thing? Because he made us believe he was crazy. Motherfucking sitting over that time. Butterflies like to sleep with their eyes over in the shit.

Oh. They fuck me up. The butterflies have eyes. They can't. They got to. They're flying. But that's the reason why they like. You know, exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. This motherfucker don't know what he's going. He's got cincers, bro. They've got cincers, bro. They got cincers and such a day. I got too close and they go down the way. Look, that fly with the wind.

Hold on. They don't wait for the wind. I'm telling you. I don't know what the fuck happened with that fight. I was watching that shit. And everything like, every time Ryan Garcia hit that, his energy went. Yeah, his life, his life.

It's like a video game. But look though, I feel like, I feel like Ryan distraction, distracted us. And I'm thinking it's just. distracting him. Yeah. So where I'm thinking, I'm like, damn, man, he looks in there marbles, man.

Yeah. Man, go ahead, Dev. You know what I'm saying? Man, go, go, go crazy on him. But then it was just like, oh shit. He got this. He got that. That was a way for him to distract everybody else,

not knowing I'm fin to come hard. You know, my brother told me. We all underestimated. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Everybody did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know the motherfucking, uh, spread was 500? Yeah. Plus 500. Plus 500. Yeah, you put on. nigga put a rat down $121,000. But check this out, I never...

Imagine the nigga who put on a whole lot. Oh, he's getting paid. And there's a huge payday on that. But my brother was telling me, because he watches a lot of boxing into it, he's like, yo, Brian is 25 and 1, bro. He's 25 and 1. He only lost to the greatest thing in the game,

Grante. That's the only thing he's lost to. And 23 of the guys he knocked out all knock out. So we kind of slept on his little track record. He's nasty, bro. I feel like he didn't, he wasn't even all the way on the gas, though. No, I don't think he was either. He preserved the integrity of the fight.

He could have easily ended that shit. You get with him? Because it was like, yeah, because he was boxing, but he was still like, come on, he was doing this. He didn't going to do you dirty. Come on, fight you. I'm not, I see you out on your feet, and I'm not going to do you dirty. I'm going to hold you out to the last 10 seconds.

To get back up. Hey, take these body shot, my boy. I'm not trying to do it. I was like, damn. He had a whole other gear that he didn't even have to go. I think so. I think so. I think so.

Damn, Haney, I'm going to see you go crazy. They're going to do it again. They're going to do it again, though. They're going to do it again? Okay, here's a fight. I'm putting it out now. Fuck the bullshit. Haney and Brona.

Who? Brona is out. They don't want, they're done with. Adrian. He's out. He's out of the line light, bro. He ain't out of the line light. He ain't going to get no more big fights.

Nah, I think so. Okay. I think so. I think he's going to get some more fights just because it's a marketing strategy. And see, now they're looking at it, it's like, ooh, we like niggas the market. We need a motherfucker to the market. All you got to do is boss. I don't give a damn what you do.

You saw we thought Ryan was losing this fucking mind. We don't care what you do. We just want you to come to the ring and finish. Yeah, fight. You feel me? I think he still got to-hack. Because right now, he's going to go fight in Miami. Niggas won this.

He's wrong to fight. Oh, Adrian Brown? Broan. He's coming up. Some digger. Oh, that nigger good, though. The guy he's about to fight is good. I wouldn't look him up.

Oh, he is good. Can't underestimate this. What is he black white? What is he Mexican black white? I think he, I think he black. He's asking him to some shit, but he definitely,

I went and looked at him up. The bug got. He's cold, huh? He wanted to warn that if you make me win on you, it's going to look better for me. You need to beat me up so you can show them nigger there. Oh, I'm still kicking ass. But if I end up winning over you,

it's over. It's a pay grant. It's a pay. You may be. I think A.B. I don't think he got to write the corn. I told A.B. yesterday. I just told him. He's so many

the avenues. He said the wrong people. He said the wrong shit. But he can go crazy. You got the Jake Paws and the D's deep, what I did, the dads and shit. He can be a mobile in one of those sectors. All he got to do is know how to navigate this shit. He don't. That's the thing. He don't. He showed his ass. Every time he

got back, they gave him too many chances to bounce back. He said the wrong shit. He called out the wrong folks. Now they're just like, hey, okay, you you such, fuck it then. We ain't You can have all that shit you said. I think you can't say anything, but once you start losing, boy.

That's the thing. You can't keep losing. You can say whatever. You know, that's what boxing is about, I think. You gotta be a little crazy. You gotta say the hot weight and shit. But when you get in the ring, if you're not winning, all of that stuff is...

See, it ain't never been like that. Like, boxing, it's always been like a black champion, but the sport is, like, it's owned by the other people. Right. So it's like, for them to make you the champion, you gotta have a certain kind of decor. Right. You're right.

just be a nigger. That's everything in life, to be honest. That's TV. I mean, let's get into it. That's right. When we starred and they had four movies in the theater. Come on, huh? That name was like, I mean.

It's a fine line. They said, yeah. I remember I walk by and they have four movies. When I'm walking to see one of these movies, there's four movies. Yeah. But see, that's what I'm saying.

You just got to get the money. You got to get the money and run. You can't fucking be out there giving your opinions about shit and living your life out loud like that when you're in a system, that's a billion dollar system. It's like, talk your shit, but you got to know where to line

at. I think he got a shot. I know for it. That's one thing. I see talent and greatness in people and everybody fuck up. Everybody says some shit, but it ain't, it ain't like motherfuckers ain't never said some shit. Everybody can literally say, well, I remember when Shonda said some shit.

Oh, you like him? I remember when he said some shit. Everybody had the chance to come over the home. They don't bring it up, though, when the white people says, you see what I'm saying? Yeah, I was like, where's the, when I was here, you know, we got all these. And I think anybody who does in your wrong deserves bad things to happen to them, you know, you deserve punishment and things. But I just feel like there's so many, like, white bands and older people who have done the same things

that don't get the documentary, that don't get all this stuff. I'm like, man, it's coming to me. I'm the type of things that go watch all the old shit, right? Yeah. Like, now they do new shit don't even excite me. Yeah, yeah. I watch all the old shit. If you go look at all of them old cowboy movies,

go look at them. Well, you know the white foe was fucking with them young girls? Yeah, shit, bro. I'm talking about a day. Like, what are you doing? Let her go. She's love for me. She's out of love.

I'm like, that bitch is 14. There's a song that goes, she is 12 years old. I said, wait, what, at the beginning of the song? Did da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yes. Great song, but horrible, you know. It's horrible. A great song.

Let her go. Let her go. What are you doing? She's just 16 years old. Elvis Presley married a 14-year-old girl's like then, like, but, you know. Yeah, and that's the type of shit that I'm saying. Yeah. Some of those things, like, as a Caucasian male, there ain't no repercussions or shit like that.

Long as you stay within the wheelhouse. That was it. You just say, that was it. Yeah, once you stay within the wheelhouse of acceptable white people bullshit, you will never be canceled. Yeah. Like you were saying, Leonardo DiCaprio, they know he wants the bitch who 18, 19. As soon as you turn 20, he has, you have left. You's an old bitch.

They didn't see him with everything old. Long as he don't do nothing crazy and stay right there. He could. Long as he don't go out here and be protesting with the niggas. Yeah, real shit. Real shit. You good. That's real.

You're a young white bitch. You like to get drunk and drive. We're gonna let you drink and drive all year. Lindsay Lohan, but you owe us two more moves. As long as you give us. them two, we're gonna bring your ass back. Britney Spears, they're not done with her yet. She's still all them people.

That's what I'm saying. But they don't, they don't, they shit could go on 50, 60 years, nigga. You fuck up. That nigger can be done in one song. I'm gonna say, they count to you. They cancel you, but they use their people. They got home heard about that way I don't look like it.

You can fall off in three weekends as the nigger, bro. Three weekends, you're out of the left. We just saw them. My niggas just ran down the street in New York City. I lost everything. A nigger ran for his life and stills lost everything. Out of the camera angle. Oh, I'm not going to the bitch.

They're going to bitch. Hey, for real. Everything. Everything, bro. Huh? I ain't got found guilty. Yep. This shit is insane, bro.

Bro. Yeah, it's scary, though. It's scary, a little for me, and I'm sure for you and us, you know. When you see something like that, you're like, damn, that can... It can definitely, but that's why you always gotta say, you know what? I'm gonna stay prayed up, and if I don't like the energy, I'm out. I gotta get out. Everything can't be about the money.

Yeah. Especially when you see some shit and you're like... That don't make sense. Mm-mm. Because I'm been around a situation when I'm just like, they played my friend. They played my friend, right? And then I'm hearing how they talk about others. But I'm still playing stupid.

Yeah, yeah. I'm just like, playing a ball. Now I gotta play a bun, like, now let me see what you're really about. Yeah, what did you turn with? You want some confirmation for the shit you're saying. I never give you confirmation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just get you an ear, ear, a ear. I give you an ear, but I never respond. Yeah, right. Now when I do some shit that I want to do that I don't agree with you, you don't put me over there with them niggas. Yeah. That's cool. I was your friend at first.

Yeah. But now I'm just like one of them niggis. Right. Don't be around that energy, no way. You dig what I'm saying? It's literally, I mean, it's like the same kind of world. Like, hey, you're here, put you over here, if you act up, we go back over here, no, you're going to mess you up in front of everybody.

Everybody see if you act like this, it's whatever. Literally like bug breaking. I'll be telling motherfuckers out. Hey, don't be a fuck. How successful you are as the black entertainer, nigg. Anytime you end up somewhere and it's some white women crying, nigger, your ass in trouble. It's over with it.

If you did something a night, if it's some white women crying, Go it. Right, man. Hell yes. Everybody, everybody knows that. You got no way to hold them. No way to fold up. No way to walk away.

You're going to tell you. You're going to tell you. Oh, hey, what's your name? You got no way to hold them. You're going to boat up. I refuse. I refuse, bro. I refuse, bro.

Especially in the industry, bro. I don't even be like hugging white women. You got to do it to the side. Yeah, the little side. No, I'm fucking hugged no white woman. She too happy to see you. Well, her boss is don't like how. Walking right behind and watch her too long.

They don't like how excited they hear with you around. That's inappropriate. Once you hear that word, it's inappropriate. Yeah, yeah. Scary, scary, scary, scary, scary. That's what the fuck is inappropriate? What is inappropriate? What is inappropriate?

I don't know. What did I do? I spoke. I spoke. I spoke. Now I thought it came in here and didn't speak. Now I'm the black guy. I'm the guy who thinks he knows everything.

He's bigger than people. Yeah, right. Hey, how you doing, beautiful? Well, I got in trouble for calling somebody beautiful. Isn't that crazy? That's nothing. I was like, what the fuck? I'm supposed to call it ugly.

And the crazy part is the bitch who isn't even beautiful. You got to stop doing that. I said, but this is the thing, though. I'm from the South. I'm a man. That's how we talk. First of all, you're a woman. I'm going to address you as such.

I don't know your name, Queen. How you doing beautiful? Yeah. You wrote, you went to somewhere. and y'all wrote me up. Guess what? Bitch is still beautiful with your unglaid. Write me up again, hoaxer.

You're going to learn them hard-headed. Beautiful bitch! No, but it was a time for me to understand that, you know what? That was just a warning. It's a learning. It's not even like that over there. Anything. It's egg shells.

As a black entertainer, we're like this. Every day. Seriously. Every fucking day. And I'm glad we're talking about this, man, because people do need to know, you know. And I want us as people to support us more, because that is how we have to navigate, you know?

That. We do gotta navigate that. Look here, man. This is your first time stopping through here. I know that you got a motherfucking flight to catch, but don't let this be the last time. The next time you come in there, you gotta kick it the whole time.

We got a lot of shit to talk. We got merch for them. And just know, we're super proud of you, bro. Thank you. Brother, superstar, brother. I got you a little something to take back to the land with you, bro. Let the people know one more time what you got coming out, because they're going to be waiting.

Social media, all that. May 14th, my EP comes out, he don't knows, who comes out, following on Instagram, Twitter at Trevor Jackson 5, Apple Music, Spotify, who are in love. Continue watching the show, man. This is a fire, I had a blast. We shamed. Hey, 35 South Show, Trevor Jackson.

We are out. Let's take a pleasure, man. Come on a win. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. That's super dope, bro. We love that. Keep going, bro.

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