The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Tye Tribbett in the Trap!

Episode Date: September 9, 2022

GRAMMY winning gospel artist Tye Tribbett (@tyetribbett) sits down for an in-depth conversation with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly, and Clayton English 💎 *Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || +Our Website: w...ww.85southshow.com || +Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:40 Yeah, your church got a class rooms in it Oh yeah, you got a big church Annex You got an NX Then my church end up getting the inside gym Oh On the west side Oh, Jack's my board
Starting point is 00:02:54 Oh yeah Folks go to church, just to who? I was definitely saying, bro, we just go to crime. We had a whole crazy church league. You got to leave. Yeah, yeah, you know you got to go ahead and play. Yeah, all right, you gotta go ahead and play. I'll be here, Sunday.
Starting point is 00:03:09 They used to make us recite a Bible script before we play. Yo, stop playing. Look, God. Are you from here? I'm on the West Side. All right. Yes, West Side Atlanta. My Lady King.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Gotcha. NL K. No, he passed in 2013, no. No, he passed in 2013, but he was a pastor. All right. All right. Yeah, man. I grew up in the church.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I got you. All day. Where it up? I'm bringing my blood on here. He's ain't going to play drum. We ready. I'm going to buy my drunk sit. I'm going to get a friend.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I'm going to do it before and now. I'm going to let him come in with his clothes and then we're going to go get some more clothes. We're going to put him in some 85 South man. We should have kept them eight in ones. They're wrong here to bring that man here. Oh, we should have kept them and one. Hey, look at. We've got to go get up a new glove.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Hell good, fuck. They're part of the intervention. Todd, give me one. What you're gonna hear? Pre-show. Pre-show mix. What you want to hear? Don't you on the show.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Don't me one. Really just put them in real. Don't do that. That shit likes, is it right. Oh, who I want, what I want to hear? Where are you going? I've been trying to find one. It can get higher and higher.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Oh. Boy, y'all going to have me riding home texting random motherfuckers tonight. That's a goddamn vibe right there. What's there right there? Oh, ooh. I'm in your brain. Brown sugar. Let's do a...
Starting point is 00:04:27 What? That brown sugar, why I'll be in that like this. This is so, I love it. Being there with a little white woman, huh. No, hell no. This ain't for you. It's not for you. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I'm loving your brownship. It's not for you. Oh, God. What I want, bro. It's popping off of this. Brown sugar. You got you called. How, man.
Starting point is 00:04:49 What's your feeling? You know, Diagelo sound like he, he sing like he playing the guitar. He didn't play the guitar. And this song about smoking a blunt. Yo, it's about smoking weed. Yeah. It's it? Brown sugar.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Even got a big sister by the name of chocolate tag. Brown sugar, babe. They're pretty little bit. They persisted when I hit it, make the minute. I don't think y'all are with you. Okay, okay. Let me tell you about this girl.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Maybe I shouldn't. I met her in Philly. A feeling. Wow, that. Okay. constantly, it's why my eyes are a shade, blood burning me. Uh-huh. We ain't gonna make you no money off the episode, y'all.
Starting point is 00:05:32 No, this is a pre-show. No, this is a pre-show. Oh, okay. I'm about to say, because that's a minute a half. They're gonna be in friends, man. Yeah. I hate all that stuff. I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Good, great. We get your money. We did your money? Yeah. Really, we're celebrating. No care. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Fair you, Zach. Y'all don't play it on the radio. No. I wish she could be a way. They can still get the screams like how they would normally get, but it doesn't, it doesn't affect your screen. We need a radio station. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:04 Like we played, you still get screams. Technically, it's still a scream. Right now you should be getting played, getting money instead of you saying, take that down. It's going away from the views. So our views should accumulate to some screaming. Literally. I feel where you make too much sense.
Starting point is 00:06:23 You know what I ain't in front of do, no shit. They're like someone. The money flow would be like that, though. Yeah, YouTube, you know, if it's, you can't play nobody's stuff. They ain't yours. If it ain't registered yet. They're fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:34 If you're registered, they come to get. Hey. That's like YouTube, but some people who got your songs behind on their video, they're not going to get paid for it. But who's going to say that YouTube giving you all the money? They just give you what? They're giving you. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Penis. How much I'm getting you? That's what you made. How much I'm getting a per screen? What you say that electric piano call? Pender Rhodes. We put you up on this. On the dog.
Starting point is 00:07:03 My dad was a fan of the musician. A word of finning. Get to a dollar. And kill me. You play the organ, too? Yeah. You play the organ? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Oh, I saw that little or that road. Yeah, that one. That ain't nice shit, but. I heard about you on the keys. I saw some, but I'll wait till we really start to bring it. Yeah, that's a bullshit. All right, let's do it. Yeah, what that is.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Prepare the pimpy, please. E. Ooh, that's the golden mic. Yeah, that's the golden mic. Okay. Brush it out, man. Ooh. Too much.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Oh. That's a hot mic. That's a hot mic. Come it down, the way down. The vocal. Come me down. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yes, sir. Oh, this you, my bad, gentlemen. I'm sorry. I had to control over here. Yeah, I can't control him all the way down. Because you're going to sit on. Come down just on another bit. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Because when I ain't talking over, the speaker. Yeah. Just smooth. Yeah, that's smooth. We've got a tie driven in the house. Yeah! Yeah! Who we got, D.C.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We got tight driven in a house hole! I got to bring in, I got to walk you in to the trap. I got to walk with my wife, Tidtribbing. Yeah, yeah. Lickland to the tribe. Who we got? Tye tripping the glades in a trap. Gotta break in time.
Starting point is 00:08:40 They say if you can't take a joke on no. Tad triple a gland. No, not in all those two. Not all of them. Tad triple a glance. Tad triple a glance. Tad triple a leg. Who are you get?
Starting point is 00:08:54 Tertribilla Glenn Tertrievee Lugland Tertrievee Lougham You know Hey man Oh there you have it folks I love
Starting point is 00:09:08 I love it I play a partner I had third cousin on our father's side everybody cousin Tert Triblet is in Yeah Thank God
Starting point is 00:09:16 What up? Yeah Yeah You got Can I say there's all jokes aside, you are an amazing performance. Exactly. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:30 That takes a lot. That takes a lot. That takes a lot. And then not only do you, you do gospel, but it's ministry. Yeah. You feel me? And to actually, like, really be engaged in it and giving the world to the people, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:42 Like, you're really uplifting people's spirits and I want to just tell you, like, we're going to kick the jokes, but we give, we give, I don't know what I'm saying. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. You bring us up to speak, man, give us a brief introduction for those of you, you know, of our audience who may not be too familiar or know what you got going on, how you came to the game, and how you start killing the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, me, I'm a church boy, man, grew up in church. My, when I first came into consciousness, I think I was on the front row of church somewhere.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And my grandma was the pastor at the time, and my dad was on the organ, and my mom was like directing the choir. You know what I'm saying? That's my world. Who was watching the baby? He was right there. Nobody was watching me. Jesus was watching. So that was my whole reality growing up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:28 I was the black skinny buck tooth guy who got clowned and bullied at school all the time. You know what I'm saying? So that never felt good. So I didn't feel comfortable there. I only felt comfortable in my little small church with my family, about 50 of us, whatever. So when I got a age and was able to play,
Starting point is 00:10:43 I was about 12 years old, you know, I spoke in tongues. I got the Holy Ghost. You know what I mean? You couldn't test the keys unless you did that. My church was very religious, very legalistic, very, can't do this, can't do this, can't do this, can't do this, can't do this. And I appreciate, I appreciate the foundation, but not the tradition. You know what I'm saying, let all that go.
Starting point is 00:11:04 But I started playing defender roads around that time, 12 years old, just taking over. Then my dad became the pastor, then I'm playing the organ, and we just cultivating this sound. When I say we, my brother started playing the bass after a while. My mom bought him like every instrument. He like landed on the bass. Like flute, trumpet, sax, nothing was working for him. One day he was coming downstairs and I was making sense on the bass. He was like, that's mine.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You know what I mean? He took it and he didn't put it down yet. He played for John Patis now. He don't play for everybody. John Legend and everybody and every other John. He played for all the John. So we started cultivating the sound though. Like just yumble, just 13, 15, 16 years old.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And in our garage, just like a garage band. Like me and my cousin and this sound that we would put like hypnotize in the hymns. You know what I mean? Because we were so bored with how everything was, all the hymns was the same. All the churches were the same, all the... She was like, pass, me not... I was like, do, do, do, do, do... Me not close.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And the church mothers ain't know what I was on. They was like, yes, Jesus, yes. And the young people was like, I'm feeling that! You know what I'm saying? When they found out we got in trouble. that we got in trouble, but we started just trying to find another way, another vein. And that kind of grew that we had in my own group. I started my group, 96, 96.
Starting point is 00:12:27 We immediately did this movie called Prince of Egypt, which was an animated journal about The Life of Moses. Yeah, so they actually made them brown in that movie. They made it a movie. No, I wasn't in it. It was a cartoon. I know the cartoon because we're watching it now. We was in the soundtrack to the movie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:46 So we were like the only choir in the soundtrack, so Faith Hill was on at Whitney Houston. So when we did the movie premieres, we was the only, like, group of choir backing everybody up. Faith Hill, fall in love with us. Everybody, we go on tour with Faith Hill and Tim McGraw. They sold a soul tour. We go on tour with Don Henley. And I go from this small church to the world, to stadiums and arenas, like, talk about culture shot. So I went from, you know, you can't win.
Starting point is 00:13:16 to this whole world, and it just opened me up. From that point on, I was like, oh, I ain't going to be the same, y'all. The world is bigger than just what we thought God was and what we think, you know, this world is. And from that, we was doing this whole neo-soul movement in Philly. So the Roots, my people love y'all. My first album was in the Root Studio. Jill Scott, Erica Batu, DeAngelo, Belial, Flau,
Starting point is 00:13:40 all that whole sound. We was playing for them. All, we was playing for all of them. One of the, her name is Vivian Green, we're basically cousins. She was about to get signed to Columbia Records. So she said, I got to go. She was singing her ass off. Huh?
Starting point is 00:13:53 She'd be singing her ass up. Oh, you're like, okay, see, I love Vib. So, shout out of Vib. So she was like, Tad, I need you to put together a band, a couple of singers. I'm doing a showcase for them. They like my demo, but they just want to see me. So I put together people from my group, you know, they was called GA. My gospel group and my band, they was called Soundcheck.
Starting point is 00:14:11 So I've got a couple of people we did the showcase. and Tommy Mottolan was like, yo, and Donnie Ainer, they was like, we love Vivian, we're going to sign her, but who's that guy? Because I just got energy, I was on the keys like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:23 I don't be chilling. I'm always giving everything. I'm always like, ah, who the guy on the keys? And the producers were like, well, that's a different story. That's a gospel guy. He's gospel, but thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:35 We're going to sign Viv, right? He said, yeah, we're on a sign Viv and the gospel guy. Right. I was in there, like, I ain't had no black and white. I ain't had no bio. I ain't had nothing. Yo, within a couple of months, I had a contract sent to me.
Starting point is 00:14:46 They ain't heard no music at all. And we got signed to Sony, Columbia Records. Don't tell me God ain't good. My story is real. You can't tell me God ain't real. So we had our first album out without all that. And from there, it's just been like, boop, boop, boom. And God's just been blessed, man.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So now I got my latest album is called All Things New. Just came out Friday. Well, I don't know when it's going to air, but it just came out recently, and the response has been really, really good on that. But the journey to get to that was kind of crazy, and I'm sure we'll get into some of that now. Yeah, but that's me, man. I've been married.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I'll be married 25 years in December. Woo! How you doing it? December. What? How you doing? What? What?
Starting point is 00:15:33 We can talk about that. How do you do it? How I do it? Yeah. Messing up. Mistakes. Learning. Humility.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And communication. If you can make those be your best friends in any relationship, not just marriage. You and your homie. Humility, communication. As soon as we offended, we out. Soon as ain't something we like, we out. It's just like swiping on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I don't like what you said, bye. I don't like what you did, bye. You can't treat people like that. You jacked up too. You messed up too. Some people are worth going beyond the offense. And you know how much you love somebody by how much you go beyond an offense.
Starting point is 00:16:11 an offense. So I told my wife, we're going to be in this forever. So I'm offended by some of the stuff she did and said. She's offended by some of the, or argue like anybody else. But she's worth going beyond that to me.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And if the person ain't worth it, then your love level's probably you're on four or five or six. But if yours is on a hundred, that's real right there. And that's lasting relationships, whether it's a boss, employee, wife, boohing,
Starting point is 00:16:38 whatever it is, relationships, My heart bleeds for relationships now because everyone is about themselves. Everyone has a list of how you're supposed to be and if you don't meet the criteria, people are disposable to people, man. Love don't exist no more.
Starting point is 00:16:53 It don't. Not that real thing. You know, very rarely do it exist. So we're trying to be that and examples of that. And through many bumps and bruises, through infidelities, through all of that stuff, through stuff that couples do not make it through, It was tough
Starting point is 00:17:11 It gets rough It gets crazy We separate You sit over there I sit over here You stay in Jersey I'm going to L.A. for a minute But at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:17:19 With God on your side And with some humility And communication And understanding And finding somebody Who's worth Going beyond The hurt
Starting point is 00:17:29 The offense The betrayal Some people are worth it Everybody ate To you And that's fine But she's worth it to me And when you find that, you're going to be married a hundred years.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Thanks. Two girls, 16 and 20, so y'all pray for me, please. Wow about that. And that's me. I'm a leader of a church called Live Church in Orlando. We be chilling. I love it. Shout out Live.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I love y'all so much. And I'm just enjoying life, man, and enjoying the journey. You know what I'm saying? I'm just making the world a better place, one conversation at a time. Thanks. And that's real what you said about the humility and conversation. You feel me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:10 That's what keeps the nation together. But, and it... Go ahead, brother. Speak, pastor. Once you offend it, though, that's the leading character in your new movie of thoughts. Like, that's it.
Starting point is 00:18:26 You just see the pain of what you've been through, the offense of what happened. How could you do that to me? After all out, man, that's all we see is red and black. And I'm not saying we shouldn't feel that. That's even the problem.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Bible says be angry, but said not. Be angry, but don't, all right, don't let the sun go down. You're still mad. You're mad all week. Right. You mad all month. I remember the movie Life with Eddie and Martin. They mad 40-something years. They wasted all that time. Because all this song is red.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I get it. Been there, get there. But, yo, and it's not the easiest thing to do. I depend on God. So I'm not telling anybody to do anything in their own strength, but I'm not here to preach. My story is I depend on the Holy Spirit. I depend on God. Asked him for help and through the wisdom he gives, through the knowledge he gives, the way he gives, it takes humility because it's not like, well, lo, you may not, like, it takes that discipline.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And people don't feel like doing that. It's like, nah, you know exactly what you did and why you did it. You know exactly what you said that you know. And they do sometimes. So we feel justified in holding that resentment and that angle like, nah. Like this is our justice This is my justice to me This is me protecting me
Starting point is 00:19:43 And doing me right And sometimes to a certain extent You need to do that because you don't want to be a doormat You don't want to get pushed over or abused And I'm definitely not encouraging that However, it got to come a time Like I said, yo somebody got to be worth it Besides your kids
Starting point is 00:19:59 Your kids can do no wrong to you That ain't the most tripling Come on You feel me? Don't touch that What this? Don't do that But as soon as you got rules with your spouse or whatever, it's like you ain't got, your fuse is short. Somebody got to be worth it.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And if we worth it to God, that he's going to get on that cross. I believe he did that for us. I believe that. If we were it to him and we still ain't even thinking of, you know what I'm saying? Somebody in our lives should be as well. But even, I do not want to go here.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Go hell. You better go that. Because we're dead. We weren't on you to come in. Y'all waiting on me to come in? Yeah, we brought you here. You brought you in. You're at the house.
Starting point is 00:20:42 You're at the house. It's touching. God welcome all over here. It's touching. No, I'm not. I'm just touching. But I need to be able to get in brief. I do your thing.
Starting point is 00:20:51 All right. All right. You're going to be happy. I need to be able to take it in. That's what we're going on. I'm like. No, I didn't know why you brought you. We wanted you to get this deep.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Got you. Even race. Racism. Everybody. talk about the white man and this and that and there's a lot of truth. I'm not denying any truth. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:13 I stand for the truth. My whole thing is about the truth. But that's... Go ahead. Go ahead. But... At what point do we respond differently? What people do to you
Starting point is 00:21:29 reveals them. How you respond reveals you. One more time. Say that again. Say that again. What people do to you, it reveals them. Wow, that's whack. They tried to, they, wow, I can't believe they did that to me.
Starting point is 00:21:43 They, they wrong for that one. How you respond reveals you. So I'm trying not to let happenings get me out of pocket. It's got to be a way I could just be forever chill. There's got to be something that I could just lock in and, okay. You know what I'm saying? It didn't move me off my pivot. If it don't mess up my faith, my family.
Starting point is 00:22:06 or my finances, I try not to let it get me out of pocket. You understand what I'm saying? So when everybody put up posting and there's a hashtag every week and we're getting out of pocket, now I know that as a nation, we got it, something has to change and I get all that and I'm not trying to be political. That's why I want to go here because I'm not on a political thing. I'm on the kingdom tip right now.
Starting point is 00:22:26 But at some point, we've got to not emotionally invest in so much that we are now out of line or deterrent. in our destiny or what's best for you. Now, you are out of pocket for your purpose because you're so upset at either what you see online or what has happened to you personally. Anger, Moses, yo, is a guy in the Bible named Moses. Talk to me.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I'm not just being funny, but... Yo, he was supposed to go to the promised land. God said, yo, speak to the rock. He hit the rock. And God was like, oh, okay, so you're so mad at the people that you're going to disobey me, you ain't going to see the promised land. Moses doesn't let these people do all these ten plans.
Starting point is 00:23:06 in the red seat and he didn't make it because he was mad he was so mad all he saw was black like yo so i don't want another person to make me miss it no i don't want no i don't want no i don't want no there's another guy in the bible his name was jonah he got on this boat he was disobeying god said go this way i'm going this way he got on that boat and he robbed the boat he rocked that whole boat that boat started they was like who messing up on here who whose problem is essentially what they're saying is I know how to cause problems in my own life I know how to rock my own boat but this
Starting point is 00:23:44 rocket ain't me somebody is somebody outside of me is causing my ship to have turbulence to have causing my heart to be troubled causing my mind to have warfare I'm giving them too much of me you understand what I'm saying especially if you don't know especially if it's a post especially if it's the president or whatever
Starting point is 00:24:05 It's too much to invest in when I got things around my house to take care of, my kids. I still got a goal I'm trying to reach. I still got da-da-da-da-da. And I'm not mad at knowledge. I love knowledge. But at a certain point, when you get off your pivot and all that stuff, I think it's good to pull back for a minute and look at it from a pure view. That's why I love the pandemic. People like, you love the pandemic?
Starting point is 00:24:29 I love that time. Well, not the pandemic. I don't want nobody to die. Not the virus. but the quarantine, oh, bro, I loved it. I wish we could do that every other year. I love it to pull back from all systems and things that I was connected to
Starting point is 00:24:46 that I didn't even realize I was part of habitually things I just did. You had to unplug. You had to get back to you. We're supposed to get to savvy. Because some people could never even imagine a day or a week or a month where you can't go outside or go to work.
Starting point is 00:25:01 You can't go do this. Do you understand that? Where it's life of death is urgent. Is it worth it? Right. What's worth it? Right. What's worth going outside?
Starting point is 00:25:09 It says in the Bible that it's certain things that we're supposed to do. Straight up. You see what I'm saying? That is required for us to do that week. And this is why it says it because you are detached from all the things that's got you deterred from the right. Even other relationships. Now we back to that. How do y'all feel about that?
Starting point is 00:25:27 Like the relationships, how do you relate to people? Do you feel like, you know, you got a long fuse with people? got patience or is it like... I ain't got no patience. That's why the place me to do this. I don't even like people. Got you. I understand that. He said, I'm going to put you around so many
Starting point is 00:25:43 people. And not even that, they come to you for everything. You got to make them smile. You got to make them happy. Not only that, but I need for you to see the joy that it brings them. But that's going to make
Starting point is 00:25:59 you feel good. So even though I don't like y'all, I need you. I need you. That's everybody's reality. And that's a humbling thing. You understand what I'm saying? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:26:13 We need each other. I need you, motherfucker. I know. I can't stand you, but I need you. Word. I know we say we self-made and all that, but nobody self-made, yo. Can't do it without the people.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. So we got to get a healthy perspective of relationships so that we can be we're supposed to be in the earth. Now I'm about to go a little bit deeper now, but I'm chilling. Talk. I was doing this study. I forgot his name, forgive me.
Starting point is 00:26:41 But this ain't me right here, but this is something I study. I'm going to add me to it. He was talking about how most of us live out of, and my wife brought this to me because she was doing some therapy. And most of us live out of unmet needs, right? So we have a lot of unmet needs which cause like complex trauma. So let's say a basic need from a child from the ages of zero to 12 is love, affection, safety, affirmation, validation, encouragement.
Starting point is 00:27:15 These are all basic needs. So when I don't get that as a child, I don't get safety, my dad ain't there, or, you know, I grew up with just my mom and I don't feel that safety or protection. When you three years old, and that's a basic need or validation, little Johnny, you're going to be amazing. And your, Ty, you're going, without that basic need from the age of three to whatever, you either shut it down. Like, I don't get affection from my mom because dad left and she's always working. So affection is a basic need.
Starting point is 00:27:45 If I don't get that, I either commit what they call soul suicide and I just kill that part of me or I look for it in anything, which is where addictions come from. Now I've got alcoholism. I'm just trying to soothe the pain of not having a basic need. It's painful at that age We are of age now We grow men But when you five and four
Starting point is 00:28:09 It's painful not to have The basic needs met So we're wired to go away from pain Towards pleasure So I'm gonna shut it down I don't need affection now You grow up in the hood You go, I don't need it, I'm good
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah, you're just hard Now you're married or dating somebody You don't know how to be affectionate And you're crying at a fucking cartoon And you don't know what Tom and Jerry Tom and Jerry Man, they're trying to hug this, mama.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You were mouth. Oh, man, shit. Oh, shit. What you know what you know, man? I ain't never seen what beautiful shit like that before. He's a beautiful, fuck, man. What you're watching? What are you watching?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Shrek. Yeah. He's the feet on the tide to knock. That's a good dog. He got him. He got one. He got one. He found your one.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Word. She stayed. She stayed. Man, every time you look on social media, man, one of the black band got to talk about some love and shit, they're going to start crying. They got this new card game commercial. This lady was like, tell me why you love me, that nigga said.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Just cut the way you love me. He did not explain it. Brother, that's what I'm saying. We're not used to love this black man, bro. How affirmation is love. Yeah. Literally. Like, it's not a...
Starting point is 00:29:32 Maybe like, so how do you want us to love you? Well, if you read the book, you understand. A king, we reap out of the most simplest motherfuckers. You're right. We're simple. You're right. Simple. Simple.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah. It's a little shit. Yeah. You tell your man, wake him up and tell him here, King. Just watch the energy chain. Mm. Mm. True.
Starting point is 00:29:52 You see what I'm saying? Yeah. It makes a nigga go out here and it's just that emotion of saying, okay, I do have a backbone. Yeah. I know when I, because I'm getting that. affirmation because even when I walk and I'm talking like it yeah I'm a king yeah so you sometimes your girl a lot of us do things for our girl because she feeds us she feeds that she feeds it yeah yeah because we ain't having we was going up we ain't got it man
Starting point is 00:30:15 if you grow up in a hood or in a religious church like me the whole vibe is fear right it's like you in a jungle like they call new york and you know the concrete jungle so like the hood is like the jungle and the main thing there like only the strong survive you gotta be tough you're You got a roar at, roar at this invisible enemy. Yeah, you feel me? You got to just like, ah, make sure you, you know, I'm not playing. Because that's fear, that's fear. So fear and love can't exist in the same place.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Either you're doing something because you're scared or you're doing something because you love. When your car is making a strange noise, no matter what it is, you can't just pretend it's not happening. That's an interesting sound. It's like your mental health. If you're struggling and feeling overwhelmed, it's important to do something about it. It can be as simple as talking to someone or just taking a deep, calming breath to ground yourself.
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Starting point is 00:34:48 concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season. of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I grew up performance-based. I didn't get any validation
Starting point is 00:35:13 unless I played or did something or you live right, you're doing what God's say. Now you accept it. I didn't get acceptance unless I perform. So now I've got a performance-based mentality. Now I'm around people like, hey, I feel like I have to perform. just chill and be tied, because I'm not going to be accepted of love.
Starting point is 00:35:31 You know what I mean? A lot of us got that type of, it's a different way of how you're showing it. Yeah. Because like even when you bring it down. Yeah, they're not showing it unless you're doing something. Unless you're doing something. So we don't know to do that. Like if you do that, they're not accepting and you're receiving the love that you need.
Starting point is 00:35:45 That you should have had before you perform. So now the child think they always got to clean the dishes to care daddy love. See, that's another thing. See, like we always feel like we have to do something to be love. That's what I'm saying. But we grew up like that, y'all. And I'm not mad if the parents, the parents had unmet needs,
Starting point is 00:36:01 and their parents had unmet needs. They're just being a man, though. There's nobody just love men, unconditional. You got to do something. Like you said, our rewards are performance-based. If you're not a provider, if you're not a protector, that's pretty, you either get to be a provider or a protector or a protective provider. But if you're not doing any of those two things, you pretty much useless.
Starting point is 00:36:22 You're not, nobody's view. They don't respect you as a man if you're not. Being a provider. the breadwinner or the one who's providing the safety or the one who has the resources. That's culture, though, man. That's not humanity. That's not healthy humanity. That's culture.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And I get it that man, the heads and we're responsible and all that. But it doesn't mean to degrade or disrespect or not honor if we're in that space where we're, you know, going towards or whatever. Because right now we're living in a time where I say a man can upgrade a woman and she has. you could not say nothing, but she, Taney ain't got that. But I'm like, it's not vice versa
Starting point is 00:37:02 that a woman has something and go find a man who has nothing and not it's still. It's just fun of it. And instill in him like he's a king.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Got you. You see what I'm saying? Like he turned him into a king. He was lost. Yeah, yeah. He needed you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 But he had nothing. He's a man with nothing going to meet a woman with everything. You're a man with nothing. Where are you going to be meeting these successful as women now?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Well, let me say this. Walking back. Sometimes, if you got vision, like, if you got vision, I ain't had nothing. I was playing for my church. I was making, I don't even know, $100, $100 a week. My wife, her father passed. So she came into some change. When we first got married, she put up money for the first apartment.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Her mom gave me the first car. I ain't have it. So she carried, like, that first year. The marriage, like, and I'm like, whoa. You know, I brought my, I paid the rent. But to get us in place, you know, you got that first and last month. Yeah, yeah, you need that deposit. You don't need that part of the first and last month.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I got $500 a month. I ain't get between. I need you. Man, man. Come on. Then you got to put the utilities, you got to set in with all that. We got to make that hard-ass phone call. They're looking for you.
Starting point is 00:38:15 That one. That one. These folks are talking about they need another something. Yeah. No, I gave them one. That. We need another co-sounding, man. So I had one to hold me down.
Starting point is 00:38:26 for a minute you know I mean because she believed in the vision and where I was going right I understand a man not having nothing but if you got a vision at least right and goals and working towards him but that's what I'm saying but that's the thing the vision is there it just made me the process so it's just the way the tables are turned and we have to have something I got you like it's hard like it's safe for she was with me with us when we had something this I'm having you she made she made thing around yeah because she ain't used to that you gotta uphold her lifestyle as well how was it that women
Starting point is 00:38:59 I don't know I've been out of the game again I've been married 25 years how is it that a lot of women though can get these things apartments solid jobs da da da da da because somebody else they don't have to do everything somebody gonna meet them halfway right same sales they got a lot of a lot of women have silent investors without fucking I want to make who's gonna make things happen right the you know that hard phone call yeah I got you call is easy for them. Yeah, they said you can make the check out,
Starting point is 00:39:29 or you can just go online. So humility, there's male pride. It's the male pride. And women are proud of going to go on a college. We ain't going to work at Target. So look at our homie see us there, but why not? They feed that to them like, oh, you being the king by doing that, instead of the bigger trying to put her on some line.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Well, you ain't had to be making any four o'clock in the morning to fall, bitch, I'm asleep. See, that's the worst part about it, though, because you don't never know at what level that you're at, bro. You want me a baby. There's always going to be somebody. on the next level who got more resources than you.
Starting point is 00:39:59 The man with the most resources is going to have more than everything. Yeah, if she don't have nothing, if you got a little bit, that's a lot to her. Right. How many women are like that, though? They go from man with more to man with more to man with more. That's the game. That's the game.
Starting point is 00:40:13 That's exactly. They just keep dating up. But are they women? The nigga who got the most. So they never, they never like connect with nobody and like really like, yo. No, it's an incredible security blanket. I do a girl right now. If you meet a girl, if you meet a woman, and she dates professional athletes.
Starting point is 00:40:30 No cap. She don't just date one. You would think this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for somebody to meet somebody who's rich and famous and successful. But you got to keep it right. This is who she dates. This is her dating pool, the entire league. All these motherfuckers are rich. And those dudes, they never really had a girl that looked like something.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Right. So once they get the attention, the un- Unmend needs, I got you. Now it's like, you got to understand. A nigga ain't never had no hose, and all of a sudden he got some money. And that shit is. I got a hole now?
Starting point is 00:41:04 Right. Oh, I ain't never had the holes and you're telling the these men you said, they're doing anything I can say. You can watch the levels of how that shit works. Like the rapper boyfriend, that's like the intro. That's like your starter baller. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Then one of them guaranteed contract athletic niggas show up. 150-em, yeah, them motherfuckers show up. And then it's another level. You're gonna build that nigga four months down. You made sure to take the real ball. Just be some random-ass baseball player with $100 million. Can he speak? So love don't exist across the board.
Starting point is 00:41:35 You never even know who these mothers are. That's a small percentage. That ain't, all. But what I'm saying is. No, we ain't even women. Yeah, because that ain't even women. I would put them in the whole category or, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:47 There's some holes in doing that. There's some women out of, like you said, it's helping their men. But they don't get the acknowledgement. Man, that's what I'd be saying because I know for a fact, it's real, right. Those women are, right? They're catching hell.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Because they are believing in bullshit and they still supporting their out of. That's what I'm trying to say. It'll be the bullshit, nigga, that'd be running them motherfuckold to the ground. Right. Yeah. And we got to say that.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Babers, we know it's y'all out there. But we know it's bullshit that niggum that's running y'all to the ground. What we're trying to tell you is, me, that nigg ain't getting with a real niggum. So y'all can be a power cop here. He didn't fuck their confidence up, Don't she think don't nobody want her but him right and he ain't even shit to have
Starting point is 00:42:29 He ain't shit that nigger siren is pirate he know took three refund shit and went to the club He can fuck up everything he touched everything everything everything he touch ain't dropped yeah Hey but you do you like man hey hey hey you're the laid dick for larger But she left around for a long time that's the thing though But it could lie that motherfucker for a long time. We didn't think dick got so much value. It do. Don't take the value away.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Man, you know how many times women get dick off a dick or in a day? They ain't never short them. They're in a week. They're like ads. You can't stop the ads from popping up on your phone. Man. How many of them motherfuckers' ass you think they're going to click, though? She ain't turning all of them down.
Starting point is 00:43:15 She might not fucking the day, but she'll throw a few of them in the freezer. Right. They keep some dicks around. She's more pussy than you ever got. Her pussy backed up for the next three years. She knows the next four, five niggins she gonna fuck. She didn't already put them in order. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Ain't nobody just showing up getting no pussy these days. You gotta be on the wait list. Like you're buying a Ferrari, my nigga. These three niggas who been taking care of her the months that she was just playing the niggas over. I must know the owner because I ain't waiting on the last. I know the owner. Some motherfuckers don't.
Starting point is 00:43:45 We're pulling up in them on the bad ladies. Yeah, man. Part that was close. Yeah. They're running. People are right there right there. Going up coming down. Yeah, you ain't going to be up that long.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Going up coming down. This is a motherfucker like, no, take my shit to the garage. I'm fend to be over here. See, that's the point. I got somewhere to be. I got another meaning to go to. You don't get the luxury, bro. Whoever you, something like, the girl you want to fuck somebody really trying to cuff her.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah, that's every girl. The only reason that she's not letting this man cuff yet is because she got three more pieces of the pussy she want to give up. I'm going to get it. about the sheep. They look, they're like, wait a minute, I need to get the place before they go. I'll be outside five more minutes. Just let the street light come on. Five more minutes. Five more minutes. I'm getting all the free plates until there. Ain't no more place to get. This is a cultural tutorial for me. No, can you know.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Oh, gee, we didn't let's go on outside. In the last 25 years, man, man, when you was out here in the streets, it wasn't a whole lot of pussy out here. Yeah, well, I don't know. No. Man, I was out here For the 9-9 to the 2000 Because you lit That that ass up That was the year That everything got fucked up
Starting point is 00:44:59 For real Everybody always praised that shit But that's the year That's the year that everything got fucked up When they When the 9-9 in the 2000 That's what I'm telling you
Starting point is 00:45:09 It's like somebody had The motherfucking thing And they just flooded The streets with pussy When it was just giving pussy It way with reckless abandon And now pussy don't even have No value to them
Starting point is 00:45:18 We used to be like Man that shit was fly. I got some pussy. Now it's like you got some pussy. You know what the equivalent to getting some pussy is, man? It's like smoking the blood. You can smoke everywhere
Starting point is 00:45:32 now. Pussy isn't exclusive. Women give you some pussy first now. Yo. First. Yeah, they give you the pussy first. What's you going to do now? Now you got to talk to me. The pussy's out the way. You want to smoke? But you can't out fuck these new women.
Starting point is 00:45:48 These men, I can't smoke. I don't know. I don't know. They're doing real push-up now, not them girl push-ups. These are a different breed of motherfuckers. Oh, me, if you do a push-up like me, I'm leave. I'm the type of- You get down there and do a whole push-up down, two-thous out of you. I mean, that's why it's, I mean, I guess ways matter. Ways matter. I mean, I'm the type of dude by nature, and my nature, I'm a rule breaker.
Starting point is 00:46:15 You know what you mean? Like. You're just going to break the rule. You're just going to do what they say don't do. what they say don't do. Yeah, I enjoy everybody going that way. I'm going this way. Everybody stand up.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I'm sitting down. I enjoy that naturally. Okay. You know what I'm saying? When I say naturally, I mean like, you know what I mean? Like, with God's help, I, I kind of stay in the rules. If the, if the speed limit is 55, I'm definitely going 70, 75, 80. That ain't 50.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Everybody else doing that too, though. Okay, cool. You guys got what I'm saying. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Say that again. That's for safety. One more time for the people.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Okay, so there are ways and rules and laws set up for relationships for safety from everything we're talking about. We just don't like to go by. Who is abstinence? I mean, see how quiet it got in the entire Atlanta? Because we could talk about how messed up all this stuff is, and I'm like, yeah, y'all right, y'all right, y'all right. But that's that way, that's that way. It might not be, though. Would you say?
Starting point is 00:47:20 That might not be the right way. That's what I'm saying. I'm suggesting it's strongly that it's not. Like even now, a lot of us are talking about and I'm no, I want to say, I'm no saying, I am not perfect, y'all. I just talked about infidelity and my marriage. I was one of them dudes like, yo, I'm finally getting attention. Whoa, did she like me?
Starting point is 00:47:37 She liked me? And she like, hey, you married now. I'm like, oh yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. You know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:47:46 When that first started happening for me, I was like, wow, I was jaded by that. was jaded by that. But my point is saying that the rules, the ways are already established, we don't enjoy it. Everybody's talking now about the abortion thing. Right. I'm not even going to get on that.
Starting point is 00:47:59 But nobody is talking about like abstinence, which is the step before that unless you rape, and I ain't talking about that. Yeah, it's too many what ifs. You understand what I'm saying? Nobody's talking about like the step before the issue. We just talk about the issue. because the step before ain't sexy
Starting point is 00:48:19 it ain't fun it's not culture it's not what everybody on I don't know if I could do that I ain't got no self-control I need to hit this this and that who want to be by themselves who want to not have sex
Starting point is 00:48:28 so we gotta get married to fuck I'm just saying there are way I'm just saying right right right look at you so you gotta get me I see you scratching that nose I am not I am not laying the rules
Starting point is 00:48:39 I always tell people I'm not the judge I just work for him and again I'm feeling I felt like this Moses stood up and said thou shall not kill after he killed somebody so I'm that I'm not saying I'm just saying there is a way to avoid all of that area of frustration fact that we just talked about
Starting point is 00:48:59 but it can't just be you on that she got to be on that too you understand you're saying no or that doesn't happen no it doesn't happen or you don't want to do it don't exist I know even if it that's what I'm saying there's not enough of that to go around I understand I understand I understand so So you're so we're saying here like that's impossible No it's not impossible It's a discipline dude it's a discipline no it's a discipline no it's a discipline It's temporary
Starting point is 00:49:30 That shit ain't working in the fucking world It's not possible Ain't nowhere in the world we're doing that In the world it ain't a tribe that do that It ain't a culture that do that that shit is happening Even the people who go to church and say You're right? You can't be married until you're 35 years old.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Well, why are you fucking 96 women in this church? Yeah, right. This man, some fucking going to happen. You put two people around each other. They fuck it. All that shit gonna go out the window. It was fucking why they was making the Bible. What you think they did when they was leaving?
Starting point is 00:50:03 I got to go to Bible in the morning. Go ahead. They shot up suck it to the penis. Again, I'm not preaching And I'm not to tell you what to do Yeah, I understand Yeah, word up, right up Word up, man
Starting point is 00:50:26 Yeah, I'll tell you So you're too far gone As a people It's not, that We're not built like that The people who put that shit in place Wasn't even built like that These was freaking motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:50:38 We're in powder wigs And they had mutilated genitals and shit These people are fucking weird This whole shit that we following is created by some fucking weird-ass people. All right, let's go, let's go, let's go deeper, though. Let's go, yeah, let's go deeper, let's go deeper. It's going to go real deep, because, like, we're going to sit here and talk about all the
Starting point is 00:50:56 shit in the Bible, talk about all the shit about how black people lane, all that shit, talk about that shit, talk about that part. That shit wasn't even created with us in mind. Let them tell it we're supposed to be slaves. We got that, all this old bullshit. I don't get parts. I don't know we got enough time. I'm not saying you.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. I'm speaking to I'm saying, I'm going to. People like to pick what's healthy for their argument, but they're like, they can read the rest of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:23 You don't know the second part? Yeah. Like, how are you just going to keep saying the same shit over and over again? Most of this shit that people try to use an argument. Yeah. Ain't even in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. A lot of this shit is just an interpretation. We're not going to all see this shit like, like you said, thou shall not kill. Right. Unless.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Right. Most I'm going to try to kill you. You feel me? But, you know, but the commandments were made for the wicked. So it's two things. No, not unless I tell you to kill them. It's unless for everything. Doubt shall not look at your neighbor's wife.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Unless she was looking at you first. It's got to be a grip, but y'all got to get some consent. He's deeper than that, though. Everything is, and that's what I'm going. That's what I want to go. So you got the law, which is the thou shale nots that you're saying. Made for the wicked. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:08 And then you got the spirit, though. That's. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Talk your tongue. Go on. I'm not disagree with anything.
Starting point is 00:52:19 To me, to me, we all got the voice of God in us. I call it. I don't believe that. I got you. That's why we rap. Everybody don't even believe in God, first of all. They don't have to for him. If he's speaking, you don't got to believe in him or not.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Exactly. You speak? Yeah, but your belief is your response to the voice or not. not. So if you don't believe it, you're not going to respond. And I mean, you don't, we call it intuition or something told me not to go there. Man, that's the voice of God. We ain't that smart, bro. Yeah. Yep. So I'm just saying, hold on.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Some people are and don't have that. No, listen, listen to me. Just hear me out. To me, it's called like the secret place, right? God can and does communicate with any and everybody. Hold on. Just hear me out. he could communicate with sinners he could communicate with save he could communicate with water
Starting point is 00:53:20 stand out let my people through he can communicate with birds and animals y'all come two by two to this art he can communicate with anything like who is this man that the winds and the seas obey him peace be still and a storm stop he could communicate with anything
Starting point is 00:53:35 not even just people so how is people out of his reach just because we don't respond to him and we don't stop doing what's right oh, what's wrong, da-da-da-da. Don't mean he ain't speaking to us. So I feel like he's speaking to us, drawing us to righteousness or what is right. We take baby steps or no steps at all,
Starting point is 00:53:54 or opposite steps. It does not mean he's not speaking, and that's why he could be a fair judge. So let's say, when you get to heaven, and he's like, bro, I've been telling you all this time, I've been feeling that. I've been feeling something in my eye. That's God like trying to
Starting point is 00:54:13 Why are we so sold on this concept of heaven? Why let's forget heaven that? There's something greater than all of us that brought us here, bro. Maybe. So who, so, okay. So if you don't believe that, period. I didn't say nothing about what I believe. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:28 That's why, that's why this whole thing is so subjective. Because it's a million and one, what ifs. What if we do, we could be doing this whole thing wrong. It could be the flip. Because just like you said Like you said, the wicked No man is perfect But what if somebody was
Starting point is 00:54:49 Maybe he was God's son Even he couldn't survive in the wickedness So we're just gonna say What should mean he couldn't survive in a weakness? They killed him Just because he was of a higher source And a higher power And he had the ability to transform
Starting point is 00:55:07 Or reigncaronate or rise after the death like so if he if he did get killed if no he did well he said no man I lay it down he said no man takes my life I lay it down right that's the Bible right so if you're gonna say he ain't have to go for real for real because you really could slap me that's what I'm saying but so in this situation who won the good Hold on, hold on. Which one was you on? What's what I'm trying to tell you?
Starting point is 00:55:39 Fuck y'all, man. But see, that's what I'm trying to tell you. It was bigger than him. Why did he do it? Why did he do it? He had a purpose. Right. He had to go do what he had to do.
Starting point is 00:55:49 You gonna get hit. Yeah. Because if they do it to you, they're doing to anybody, but get what? Keep going. Yeah, I just love to be objective about this shit. I love it. That's why I said, talk to him.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I love it. It's all ways it's the possibility. It's like, I don't try to, I don't, I don't try to, I don't knock. anybody's religious belief because I think it's a million and one ways to get to God. Okay. And there is no right or wrong way to do it because it's, like you said, that there are a million names that people call God.
Starting point is 00:56:17 But it's the same entity and they feel the same way and they have the same passion as you do in your translation. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. But once you tap into it and you really know what going on, you feel me? You just break it down, like you say, interpretation. Once you break it down and you really see what going on, because you will believe an American history book,
Starting point is 00:56:34 And I don't want to believe this book, I ain't even sitting here and tell me that we was in Egypt and all this and these folks ain't black. Even sitting here telling me, I already say, yeah, he's going to bring us out of the wilderness, but we're going back in the slaying of 400 years again. It's telling us. We just, like you say, we want to sit and believe and do it everything else. Absinence, that is a former way of him getting closer. Right, right, right. My former way is keeping the Sabbath. I understand that ain't perfect.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I'm gonna fuck these holes. I'm sorry. See how you pick and choose your sins? But that's not sense. Hold on. But everybody got, hold on, hold on. Let me say this. Everybody has their own relationship.
Starting point is 00:57:15 That's what I'm saying. That's the... Oh, come on, man. Come on, man. Moses was a doubter. Oh, man. Moses was a doubter. You're not using other people
Starting point is 00:57:24 who fucked up to justify you fucking up. No, Moses was a doubter. No, I don't matter. He kept blessing Moses. Now, I had to see? Moses kept down. Was he really down then? Yes, he was.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Every time he said something, he was like, I don't know. Man. But see, God, it's all. Man. Oh, man. Moses might have said that for God, like, I can see your heart. I'm God. You don't really feel like that, Nick.
Starting point is 00:57:45 No, he goes a more blessing. He made him comfortable. Why? Because he still had a purpose. They already said, God will spite for him like when you don't listen to him. He ain't. I'm going to tell you one time, God does get angry. He was for the key of the people.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Yeah. One of the people had to tell him, hey. He talked him down. Boy, it's in the Bible to Exodus, first action is all, uh, uh, I don't want to think, I don't want to say Aaron or Moses, but they stop. Let me ask y'all like, they said, they said, why would you kill my people if you're leaving us out of, out of the wilderness, you're taking them back to Israel? He was like, you know, go ahead, go ahead. He was like, you're right, go ahead. What do you like?
Starting point is 00:58:21 Y'all keep it like. You keep down this. He said, I'm sure to you. He said y'all go ahead. God was like, all right, y'all go here. There's no doubt. There's no doubt about God. It's just to.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I don't doubt the interpretations. But check this out. I'm with you on that. And I'm with you on that. Because I'm not, I believe in God and all that. I'm, you know, I'm very. I can't get you speak Moses at him. So look, could I say this?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Very in life. Can I was just going to ask like, do you think God had an old lady? God had an old lady. You think God had an old lady? You think God had an old lady? And I don't feel like he would give a man an old lady if he didn't have one. Well, the Bible says he did nothing without wisdom.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Mm-hmm. Wisdom is considered a she. Wisdom is considered a she every time it's mentioned in the Bible. See, I'd be on this shit. I'd be thinking he was hitting on Mother Nature. What you say? Who's Mother Nature.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Exactly, who was God. What'd you say? God is a spirit. And then Mother Nature is a what? Nature is natural. It's got to be something natural. What that mean? You tell me.
Starting point is 00:59:23 You brought up. Everything has a spirit. Mm-hmm. So when you see a tornado or earthquake, is that God? Well, they blame that on who? What you mean? They blame Mother Nature.
Starting point is 00:59:36 It's Father God and Mother Nature. Mother Nature is Santa Claus, bro. Now Mother Nature ain't real. See, see. That's not even in the... We're talking about a specific source. I'm talking about a specific source. They didn't have a blood in the Bible?
Starting point is 00:59:49 I'm talking about a specific source. The Bible. Now, we're talking about... I'm just talking about that book. That's all I'm talking about. But did you say every time they reference God, it was a goddess? No, every time they referenced wisdom, it was her or she in the Bible.
Starting point is 01:00:03 What makes you think this Bible is real? It's real to me. But it's a book. I got you. We're on the earth then, right? That's a book. It could be Harry Potter. If you believe the words, there's a Bible too.
Starting point is 01:00:16 And H2O is water. Go beyond the truth. We believe H2O's water. Go beyond the truth. If you try it down, if you try it, if you put H2O together and try it and it's water, you're going to believe it. I tried the word. I tried God. And I believe it.
Starting point is 01:00:31 It works for me. He works for me. His ways work for me. I don't always follow his ways and he's still good to me. He's still good to everybody. Yeah. He is good. I am black. I can't change that.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I can't come here and not be black because everybody in the room white. He can't come here and not be good because everybody bad. He's good. And the Bible says his goodness leads people to repentance or repent means to change your thinking. He's so good. It made me be like, yo, I've been wilding. After a while, I don't know if you're 50s, 709. Or on your deathbed, you can be like, I've been wild at my whole life.
Starting point is 01:01:06 He's been good. But that's what I'm saying is, objectively, somebody had to teach you to believe that. And I tried it for myself. You're right. Right. Two plus two is four. Then when I did this, one, two, one. It is!
Starting point is 01:01:20 Right. I had to be taught first, but when I tried it, it's true to me. So it's not about the teaching. I get brainwarks. I've been there. I've been in a witchcraft churches. I've been in a cult, like, church. Like, you got to do this and you got to do this.
Starting point is 01:01:32 But didn't they believe what they believe the same with the same conviction that you believe what you believe? They believe what a different perception. That's exactly. With a different perception. Exactly. With a different interpretation. But don't they have a Bible also? It's a more than monetary gain.
Starting point is 01:01:48 It's not sitting there telling the people and breaking it down as of a history book. This is a history book. Lack of wisdom. This is a history book. This is a history book. Yes, exactly. We're up here giving it a feel good speeches. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I don't want to feel, I don't want to hear a feel good. speech break this down but I'm saying at a certain point right in in our ancestry right these exact same words were used to manipulate a situation right how can these be the same words that you that you think because we wrote it they took it from us and tried to tell us what they thought it meant I think that's a good answer you ain't finished sitting here that's why they tried to use slavery There ain't nothing but a way of saying involuntary servitude if you couldn't pay me back my debt.
Starting point is 01:02:36 If I gave you some and you couldn't pay me back, now you're my slave. You got up in seven years. It says, thou shall not beat your slave. Thou shall not hit your slave. And if you do, you must be put together. Then they try to use that and tell the slave with this, why you was a good slave.
Starting point is 01:02:50 It said right here to buy them. They don't even know what this mean. They got it from us. They try to tell us what it mean. That's why when you go and read it for yourself, Thou shalt seek the knowledge if you want it. If you move your feet and walk towards me, I shall feed you. Period.
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Starting point is 01:03:43 Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the movie pass era, where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents, and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines. Like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of Movie Pass, the company that he founded. His story is wild that it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary.
Starting point is 01:04:14 We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt, they're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a Black founder. close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I created There Are No Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There Are No Girls on the Internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebeney, and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you.
Starting point is 01:05:04 On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles, and more. And found the shrimp to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on the street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house unarmed.
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Starting point is 01:06:41 Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you, stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And then after the wild history becomes now, I'm real life walking in faith, trying to every day. What's so hard about it? It's scared. Flesh. What's so hard about is my way.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Jesus even said, who I believe is God in flesh, Jesus even said, y'all, is there another way to do this father? I don't want to go on that cross and die. Let this cut past. I want to do another way. He didn't want to do things God's way. It's the ways, because I got a way.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I want to live my life. I got a way I want to do relationships. I got a way I want to make money I got a way I want to finesse, whatever. And God is like, my way will bless you. That fight between
Starting point is 01:08:07 what you want and what he wants for you, it could be the thing. Like, you can have a gut feeling on the inside. That's a positive thing. And you can override it like, nah, nah, like when I was talking
Starting point is 01:08:20 in the beginning about humility and communication, you could have heard something like, yo, you can forget, you should forgive this. Forgive. Well, what's wrong with forgive besides you not wanting to release something? So on so many different fronts like that, that's why it's hard.
Starting point is 01:08:40 That's why it's hard to live for God because of what I want to do. And when I leave this spot and I'm in Atlanta chilling and I'm surrounded by everybody else doing something, we want to do things God's way and we're in the trap. I'm exposed to everything not his way. We want to, I ain't, my mind isn't even why. to be like that. My mind is wired to survive in the trap. And you're telling me to do, so that's what fights his way
Starting point is 01:09:05 and his spirit. But you still got it. You're still going to get conviction. You're still going to have, you still going to go to the funeral like, I need to get myself together. You still go to the weddings, like, I really want that. You still want to have these moments when the baby is born. You're like, oh, God is real.
Starting point is 01:09:18 You're going to have those things because God ain't going to ever stop dealing with you, bro. Sis, whoever you are on any level, he ain't ever going to stop dealing with you. Not because he's narcissistic and controlling. controlling he loves you and he knows what's best for your life period he put you here he made you he said you are the chosen people he created you chosen for what you are you got that's different everybody got different pet you are the chosen you are the chosen people but it's to be your life
Starting point is 01:09:43 see how we're going on your wife circle this is a wide circle no here it is here people this is what I believe you're chosen to do but this the thing you are the children what this what I think Adam here by itself it's not good for man to be here alone I'm gonna send him a help right not just for sex not even just a wife I'm gonna say help mm-hmm help another human was created to help so you're here to help somebody and something in some way period every human purpose is to help another human or situation in some way wash the car do here do podcast preach rat cut hair Every purpose, do clothes, make couches.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Everybody's purpose is to help somebody. Now, God directs you as to, your giftings help. You know, I'm gifted in doing this, or maybe I'll do this to help. And when we don't do that to help another, when we just do it to make money and we just do it to take, I don't think you're walking in your purpose then, not just saying it and wrong. But when you do stuff just to take only, I don't think personally you're walking in your purpose.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Because I think the human... Humanity about connection. To serve. at the end of the day at the goal of God in heaven that we objectively believe I believe it. He's going to say well done good and faithful serve it. You helped my people.
Starting point is 01:11:07 You helped. What you hit me for? This is not about me. My job is to keep this conversation going. I'm using you. I'm being sacrificial right now. How else what if we provoke these conversations?
Starting point is 01:11:25 Somebody had to be this person. He said, somebody didn't have like, right. And Jesus going to burn his feet. Right. And he said right there in Exodus, he who look at tithes too long and not going into the land a promise of servitude.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Don't tell me about my God. God might have put me here to do the shit is all scared to do. He put me here to appreciate all the tithes. My job, laugh if you want to. Oh, no. That's your job? God might want, Carlos, appreciate all the tithis.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Even the ones that look like sweet potatoes and dog ears. Yeah. Dog. How's that going to help, though? How's that too? You don't know what I do. Dog ears. Did it look like dog ears?
Starting point is 01:12:18 Get your boys. Get your boys. Get your boys, man. Hunting dog ears. Oh. Get your boy, man. Cut your dog. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:26 A hound dog here. That's a hound dog. Yeah. Because everybody ain't in light, you got this. Niggas. Just to be niggas. This niggas smoke these blunts and drink up some of this liquor. Goodness.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Boy. You still got to help. You still got to help. You still got to help. You got to help. You got to do it. Shit. If it wasn't for some of the devils, we're God with nowhere there.
Starting point is 01:12:54 I didn't know whether I'm in. Shit. I had to do some of the devil's work first for some experience. You had to do it first, right? God damn, I had to do something for God to work on. I didn't want to show up in my shape. Perfect. He's going to rebuild me anyway.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Why would I show up in good shape? How I'm going to know I'll like liquor if I'll never drink none? How will stop smoking weed? I never start. This ain't anymore work, yo. Don't know. Shut up. This ain't the intimate work.
Starting point is 01:13:26 That's an illusion. How I'm going to reach the people if I ain't never been one? How are you going to be after you? I can tell the young man. They stop rolling them bloods in front of it. I ain't never wrong nothing. How are you going to be abstinent? How am I'm going to be asking if I don't know what I'm missing?
Starting point is 01:13:43 You're doing that. Come on. You're doing it. How I'm abstain if I'm out here being consistently. They didn't got me drunk off this love in the streets. I'm drunk in love with the love in the street. The streets showing me so much love, I forgot God's love. You forgot.
Starting point is 01:14:06 You got some of the street. Where you think that love? Where you think that love the streets came from? God! He put it somewhere where I can get raped to it. I got you. He put it on my level. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I know God loved me. He got you. You come. He didn't brought me to do too many times. You want to God's favorite people. God fucks with you. I seen that nigga turn 40, $42. I woke up that nigga was counting words and fives and all types of shit.
Starting point is 01:14:40 This nigga won every denomination. Had a stack of tens all way up to a hill. I said, boy, you're using. This denomination. Boy. That's the deal with him. That niggins would gamble on anything, bro. That nigga gambling on Monopoly one night with real money.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Boy, walk everything. Come on now. You ain't no time. God be all up in this trap, for real. I do know that. All up in him. I know that. I know that.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I think religious people don't think God ain't in that God. It ain't know where he's not. Come on, man. He part of it, he gets on. He ain't know where he not. Yes, up. Ain't know where he not. We be taking them everywhere we go.
Starting point is 01:15:19 No care. I already know. He lead us. He already there? Yeah, he'd be waiting for me? Oh, yeah. He'd be waiting for you? Oh, he'd be waiting for me.
Starting point is 01:15:26 The little stuff just be laid out when I'm there. Yeah. You can't wait. I go out there. Give him your tendererone. It's crazy. Yeah. Huh?
Starting point is 01:15:32 I mean, your test to roast. No, it's a testimonial. Tetrazine. Tell him about your testosterone. Tell him about your testosterone. All right, hey, he's coming. We always kicking mad flavors in here. We always so much love to God.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Yeah, yeah. It wouldn't be me if I didn't ask the hard questions, though. It's dope that you came, though, for real, and. Yeah, a lot of people don't come. Yeah. We try to get Yolanda Adams in their mom-in-lawful. We just, yeah, we're just trying to get a lot of people in here. Word.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Yeah, man. They got to kick that, they got to kick that, that, in this environment. Yeah. Because it's a lot of people that we touch, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I got love. I ain't worrying about nothing. I ain't worrying about, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:16:21 representing God in an environment, like, how could you, it's like, yo, I got love for you. You better, because I represent them. Yeah. Full front. Yeah. We don't. We don't.
Starting point is 01:16:32 He was just talking. All right now. I feel it. The enemy is not welcome here. Not to Tom. Not 10 times. You hit me? My ride, my staff.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I'm gonna tell some people like, I'm like, yo, y'all got to go. Y'all got to do 85 south, man. I did it. That's some cool brothers, man. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yes, sir. You got one to your left that's going, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 01:16:50 make sure the partner. keep going yeah well I'm gonna make sure I ask you know oh my god got me wrapped tight though in a little fluffy ball a blessing flippin ball god got me wrapped in a starter coat of blessed uh-huh I'm a scorn cat is a blessing I even got a blessing all in my glove exactly but he got me wrapped in a in a little fluffy ball and a little fluffy ball It's a little fluffy ball. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:20 That's how it happened, though. When I first went out, like I said, the President Vita thing, and I first went out and all that, that's what I, that's the person who I ran into, like, real people who didn't go to my church and didn't, you know, respond to God like me and all that. And I had to learn how to communicate to everybody in love and not like, oh, you're not just part of mind. You're a warrior, brother. Word up. Yes, sir. Yeah. You're doing this work now, because like you said, you got to come down here and be with the people too.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Yeah, yeah, man. I love y'all, man. I love this. I want to come to one of them closer. Ooh, yeah. They're gonna be lit. Ooh, all the way. That'll be lit.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Energy start to finish. I love what I do, man. Hey, that's fun. At the end of the day, people are inspired, they got some hope, they got some faith. What's the name of the new album again? Do All Things New. Grab it.
Starting point is 01:18:10 All things new. All things new. Go grab me. All platform. Go grab me. man, go grab it, all things. Hey, you ain't just got to listen to gospel in the morning, people.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Right. Be at nighttime. Yeah, man, but you can listen to it, whatever. You feel the urge, you know what I'm not allowed me to change it from no gospel. That had no album. I wasn't allowed to smoke you nor for no.
Starting point is 01:18:35 What? You even look like you. What you doing? Nah. Don't take that radio pole. Man, what? She'd be flashing it. That how I know they,
Starting point is 01:18:44 uh, eh. Oh, Rance Allen. Yeah. Yeah. You hit them those good. I thought that was the auto to the mic. No, brother. I do the other purpose.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Okay, okay. I appreciate you for stopping by though, brother. Of course, man. What do you want to ask me about the drums or something? Oh, no. They said, you said, I think he was on cab on stage thing. I might be wrong. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 01:19:11 This man said he's the dude to play the piano on Crimea River. river, right? That ain't you? Yes. Yeah. You know, really sit here and do all that argument that ain't even telling me about that before. And then he reacted like he didn't do it. I thought we're about that, what they say? What they say?
Starting point is 01:19:30 I was saying all that talk about to say. You ain't even saying that all that argument. Well, listen, God did create dirt. But people were dirty before it was dirt. Dirt don't hurt. And dirt don't hurt unless you get on your shirt. They ain't got to make it work. That's hard.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Yeah. Oh, no, yeah. We was in the Rooke studio, and Timberlin was in there just rocking beats. And me and my homies was just playing, playing. And I was on the electric piano, call the Whirletzer. And I was like, do, do, do, do. Over the one of the beats, do, do. Oh, keep that going, folks.
Starting point is 01:20:04 I was like, okay. Do do, do. Yo, then the whole song just started coming together. Yo, it was crazy. And I brought my group in. We on there, Cryming. Yeah. That's y'all.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah, that's me. You called the hole. You said, I made a hole in this. He said, oh. He said, oh. He said, oh, no, don't know. Justin might have said. He said, crap.
Starting point is 01:20:27 I mean, man. You did. You're ready. You're waiting. You see? You know, you slipped in here. He called me. He said, oh.
Starting point is 01:20:36 He said. He said, if you listen to my, it's vocal. If you listen to the, to the, just raw audio. Yeah. All that part.
Starting point is 01:20:45 We said that, and I paid it on there. I got like $200 on that thing. $200? No, I got $2,000. I'm about to say. You got more than that. I should. That's all.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Without that. Yeah, that's how to business goes sometime. I ain't mad at it. No. I'm saying that's how I go sometime. If you don't negotiate stuff before and you don't know what you're doing it. And I'm 20 years old. I'm 20 years old.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Fuck up. Got you. Yeah. Waiting out see just. Where'd you see him, man? I don't know. I'm just telling him. Hey, that's Timberlin.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Timberton was the producer of that. That's my boy. Timberton. Yeah, that's my boy. That's my boy. I ain't mad at him. I'm trying to do a versus. Facts.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Ooh, yeah. Get you in there. Who you want to see? You and Kirk? I would love to do one with Kurt. You're putting it out there right now. I ain't got as many hits as him, but I would just love to do it.
Starting point is 01:21:43 I don't know. That just be so energy. Their energy, right? That should be crazy. Have he ever shared the stage with me? Like, yeah, someone that were, like, on the same caliber. Is him? You know how, like, you know how that be with artists.
Starting point is 01:21:57 They don't want to, they try to take it away from them. You know how that is. You know, we see it all the time. You know, I don't know what you're talking about. I know, I feel it. I don't know what you're talking about. It'd be like that for Gospel, too. What?
Starting point is 01:22:09 You're going to feel about congregations. What? They said gospel music has gotten too radical. That's crazy. It's going too far. That's crazy. It would be like that too, especially on their hair. That would be crazy, though.
Starting point is 01:22:23 I would love that. Uh-oh. Sound like we got to get a gospel exploding for real. Right. Aversive, type of treatment, catfrey. How y'all fay going to be with that? Y'all can't be looking gangster? I can't be gangster?
Starting point is 01:22:37 Yeah. What? They both go have that instead of the head boxing. Why are we got? I don't know, man. That's just Something Like so is
Starting point is 01:22:48 What is in here? Hold on, hold on Okay, let me ask you Go ahead What you want to have Don't forget You said why we got The praying hands
Starting point is 01:22:55 Brough What could be some new Bible signals That we Like an signal That we can put On the chain There's got to be something
Starting point is 01:23:02 There ain't nobody Got a chain With a iced out Noah's Ark on there Not even Low Yada And that's a vote Fact
Starting point is 01:23:09 You might be on Or something That's fact You get a whole Well you get a whole well, you get TV Johnny to make you a big whale, make it look like the B&Me shark, but then you got the iced out Jonah in there.
Starting point is 01:23:22 And he's sitting in there reading the Bible. Okay. I'm gonna give me a lion's den. And is the lions going to come out? There's too much. I love it, y'all know. With the head. But Dave, he's sitting there with like his hand on his chin.
Starting point is 01:23:34 It's too much. That's too much. That's too much. It is. Or a fiery furnace. Yeah. Yeah. The burning bush?
Starting point is 01:23:41 Now, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. That's five. I'm going to get me a lion coat. You're talking about lying in the last shot? The mouth's going to be said right on my head. He wanted to walk a lion in the last show.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Yeah, he did. He did say that. And I'm going to get that motherfucker and I'm going to sit the mouth right here on my head. And you're going to be walking around, just eating by lying all that. I'm going to walk around my house with the line. But I wonder when Samson went to go cut his head like, his barber's like, you're serious, really? Who is Samson's barber? Yo, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I know a lot of people think a lot of church people are judgmental, which a lot of them are. Right. Is the streets judgmental of... No, the streets got way more respect for the church than the church actually will acknowledge. That's why it seemed like it's judgmental. If you see your pastor...
Starting point is 01:24:34 Because I'm saying, like, street niggas respect the church. You get what I'm saying? They're like, they're going to do street nigger shit. But even if a motherfucker's standing out there and they're smoking, And then like, oh, hold up, bro, that goes on church folk. You feel him? Like, it's a lot more respected in that aspect. I mean, if your pastor is out there drinking and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:24:53 If you saw your pastor have a glass of something on, when you see your pastor at a club celebrating something like that, how is that view by the streets? It depends on. My father's seeing me sell cocaine, so I don't want to do you. It depends. The pastor is drinking. The pastor is.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I don't know that nigga get drunk. No, it's the, it's the smell it when he's sweating. It's the hip. critical side of it that would make it like if this pastor one of them who tried to like condemn you for that giving him to his church or being there every Sunday or the church
Starting point is 01:25:23 man. But if this is a pastor who respected in the community amongst the grandmothers and the like you get what I'm saying then it's just like it's just like it ain't like you're going to turn on them but it's like there ain't no way you're going to try to outcast people and you out here living it's almost like
Starting point is 01:25:38 I don't know when Obama and it was in office and his kids wasn't on Facebook they wasn't It's kind of like you can't be normal because you represent America. Is that because America is judgmental and the kids can't go to parties? It ain't that it's just a perception that when the pastor's up there preaching, he doesn't relay the message that he is one of them. So I have to give a lot of real life circumstances. Black communities, we put certain people on pedestals.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Okay. But if the pastor tell you, you're going to see me in the clothes. I understand when you want a little Henderson. I'm going to have a little Hiddison when I leave here. You're not going to see me after three. See what I'm saying? After three, if you see me, that's the death. I'm keeping the real.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Can I keep the real? But till about 2.30, that was me. Uh-huh. I was on Facebook. I said this thing. I may have said this thing. I may have said this thing. But if they say if they were like bad,
Starting point is 01:26:39 I got you, man. I got right. You put it out there like you... Like my pastor always relayed, like... When he relayed the message, he put himself in the position. And he's like, okay, let me tell you, I'm not telling you a little I'm perfect. Yes, I don't want to help all y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:56 But my duty is to help all y'all. You see what I'm saying? So he's like, oh, when you see me helping, knowing that I'm going beneath me. I'm going beyond me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going beyond what I want to do because it's a purpose. Yeah. So that's Christian life.
Starting point is 01:27:13 That's living for God, period. Fact. Going beyond what I want to do for the greater purpose. But I feel like it's just like in anything, though, you're going to get what you give out. If you judgmental and you hypocritical, people are going to know that. And they're going to know, even if it's not to everybody, they watch how you treat everybody. It's a lot of people who ain't righteous. There's a lot of people who are just what you call regular church folks who got the best intentions, who really, like you said, have.
Starting point is 01:27:41 taking their walk and know what their faith is and, you know, really live by at least most of that. But like you said, everybody going to live their life. Period. So they are our pleasants, not the judges, love them and let them have their own journey. You know, you can't be judging people because you don't got no hell to put them in men.
Starting point is 01:28:01 I ain't learned that growing up. It's not up to you to put people in hell. I ain't know that growing up. Yeah, the judgment. I thought my passion was the bouncer at the, The club heaven. Really? Yeah, to please them to get in.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Yeah. You understand? They scare people with religion. Yeah. The three years. They scared. Once you break out of all that realm and all that and be free and be like, you know what, I'm going to do this journey for me, but I know there's a doctrine, because there's a manual
Starting point is 01:28:31 for everything. So yeah, I understand how you feel, but once you realize what this book is talking about, and you're going to seek the knowledge of other individuals who are understand that's on that same page and y'all have these particular discourses so you can enhance your knowledge on the book that's what you're going to do you want to reread this not going to read it first time and get it yeah you're going to be reading this for the rest of your life yeah there's going to be stories you ain't see it's a lot there's some stories in here you ain't see the first time you read you're going to be like oh yeah oh yeah everything makes sense
Starting point is 01:29:05 hey that thing five that ain't really five read the first five book read the tutorial It's alive. It's alive and I think everybody know it. You're about to get into action. Jesus! Oh, God! You know, everybody, everybody know it when they're- I'd be like, holy shit!
Starting point is 01:29:23 You're going to go. But you still say holy. Right. Right. You still say holy, you got, that's God. You're going to bring. He's going to come out. You're going to come.
Starting point is 01:29:40 You know what I'm saying? Don't worry about it. He's going to be, he can't probably about he a pastor. Don't look at me like that. You're talking about it. Got it caught. Word, word.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Can't wait to preach. We'll wrap later on. What do I see your handshake? No, don't care. You know, that pastor's shit with you know, you're like, y'all at different church. Don't do it.
Starting point is 01:30:03 We're already in, you know, Kevin boys in there. You know, we're already in there. Walking up for us. You got your car. Yeah. I'm gonna be in there. When you get there, you see me, I be like,
Starting point is 01:30:14 Ty, what's up, man? You're gonna cry. Oh, Jesus, Matt, though. Yeah, I did in hell. You're talking about? I told you. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:30:26 Yeah. Yeah. What? What? Oh! All they put in here, way different. It's all good. You live in.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Time. Make yourself at home. You're gonna start off. You gotta stay on the west side of it. on the west side of it doesn't. I'm from the east side, though. It's cheap over there, though. You're just cheap over there.
Starting point is 01:30:45 We're on East Heavy. You ain't ready to big business like that. Prelegation, but the refrigerator is white. Anyway. It didn't get steven, bro. No, that's real. Word, man, I love it. But just know that you welcome any time to come to the travel.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Thank you, John. I'm talking about even if you want to just come and try out a new sermon. Word. want me to just be objective to this. I need to hear your feedback on this. Yeah, yeah. I love it. I'm gonna give you my number.
Starting point is 01:31:16 We can just kick past the business. You know, talk about, you know, church functions. Yeah. I love it. Thank you for the love, man. Thank y'all for the love, man. Thank y'all for the love. No, we appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:31:26 What if you start hitting me for real? I'm like, Loz, let me run these churches now. You know I am. You know I am. Sister Agatha has decided to make oatmeal and cranberry. Cranberry cookies For the same. Cranberry
Starting point is 01:31:42 Saints in the field of coming up in three weeks Cranberry cookie and we want everybody to be in attendance for the bake sale we'll be raising money for the St. Louis trip we'll be going to Six Flags
Starting point is 01:31:54 in St. Louis. We're taking a youth choir to St. Louis. St. Louis. We'll be doing that fate at the end of August before the school stars back. I get with Brother Clayton English, if you would like to discuss our travel package.
Starting point is 01:32:13 We still got a few travel packages available for the trip to St. Louis, amen. Amen. Before we go, we still have a few six flags tickets for the one here in Atlanta. We've been going every Saturday. I'd like to remind everyone if you have a Coke can, please give me. Please bring in your Coke cans. We'll be taking Coke cans. Cote cans.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday night at quiet practice. Wednesday would be the last day for Cote cans for St. Louis. The sisters are done sending up the food down upstairs. So we're just going to end this one in the prayer today. Brother J.O.N. Did you give us something to let Brother Tyke take us away? Yeah. We would be remiss if we had him in the trap and we didn't at least let him lead our benediction.
Starting point is 01:33:21 You can also see Sister Agatha about further information for the trip to St. Louis. Louis. Church, we got a special guest in the house with us today and like I said, we'd be remiss to not get a house. few words from my good pastor from down and live church that in Orlando
Starting point is 01:33:42 Florida. If you come down the main trip and you go past that 7-11 and you hang that right and you make that first left and you come all the way down the street.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Almost perfectly wrong. You just see you. Pastor, the triplet over there. You got a lovely congregation and some nice grass out there front of that church also. Nice neighborhood. Okay. Nice neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Property values going up. Hold on to that property. I know the devil's coming through there every week trying to get you to sell. Every week? Sell. No, no problem. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Oh, Rose. A lot of people lost out there. I'm not going to take on too much more of your time. I just want to leave you with a few words to live on something that you can maybe, maybe take with you. Uh-huh. You can't hide from God because he knows where you're at.
Starting point is 01:34:43 That's what he's going. I said one more time for all the people in the back. I said, you can't hide from God because he's no way you at. And he'll put that love where you can get it. Brother, Ty. Come on, brother. I love that.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Talk your talk. I love it. I love it. I love it. Well, nobody's too far from God, man. No matter what you do, no matter what you've done, no matter what you plan on doing. You're not too bad that God don't love you, man. That's what I want everybody to know. You can just get in your feelings and feel like, man, he ain't want nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 01:35:15 That's man. He's not like, man. He's God and he's loved. And he just wants to draw close to you as you draw closer to him. So however you do it, man, however you connect, you know, I used to grow up praying, oh God. It ain't even like that. It's like, man, I don't even know where to start, God. But I want to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:35:31 You can be real with God. You know what I mean? He already knows your thoughts. far off. You're not going to shock him with nothing trifling or nothing. You're not going to shock him. He's not going to be surprised. You can't catch him off guard. He loves you just as you are. He just wants you to get better. So just because he loves you as you are doesn't mean he wants you to stay as you are, especially if it's dysfunctional. So may I receive the love of God y'all by receiving it. Connect, pray. Let's do that right now, man. God, thank you. Just for bringing us all here.
Starting point is 01:36:05 85 South. Thank you for the entertainment that they bring to people, the smiles that they put on people's faces, the knowledge that they bring their people. Thank you for these brothers who committed to doing this to better our community, to bring some joy and laughter. Laughter is good like a medicine. People can get off meds just listening to these brothers. So I'm grateful for what they do. I pray for each and every one of them right now that you increase them in every way, spiritually, physically, financially, relationally, socially. Just bring them increase, let your goodness overflow in their lives. We're in a real world right now, having real issues. But just prove yourself to be greater. Greater is he that is in us than he that is in the world. And no weapon formed against us shall prosper.
Starting point is 01:36:57 We believe that, even though we don't feel it sometime. We believe that even though we don't see it sometime. We believe that, even though we don't understand everything, We choose to believe it. So I pray for everyone who's watching and who's listening, that they will get a greater awareness of who you are so they can walk in their purpose. We're sick of being confused, man. Sick of being distraught, distressed.
Starting point is 01:37:21 We're sick of tired of being sick and tired. You are the only real answer. And by that I mean, if we seek you first, you will lead and guide us. It's not just pray, but it's pray first. it ain't just look to God but it's look to him first and when we look to you first you then say hey do that
Starting point is 01:37:41 say this go there do that and as we obey those words the steps of a good man it's ordered by you and we get better and better each step lights up each step lights up
Starting point is 01:37:53 and we just thank you for your love for us thank you for never letting us go when we try to run from you and do our own thing we still hear that little voice on the inside you're still pulling on us
Starting point is 01:38:03 you still will us. If we make our bed in hell, the Bible says, wow, you're there. Where can we go from your presence? So help us to not try to run from your presence now. Help us to humble ourselves and say, you know what, our way might be good to us, might feel good to us, might seem good to us. But if it ain't lining up with you, man, give us the strength to align ourselves with you. Because that's the best way for us to live is in you and in the spirit. Bless us, bless the rest of the year, bless our endeavors, bless our families, our loved ones.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Keep us all safe, the world is crazy, but keep us all safe from hurt, harm, and danger. And we'll acknowledge you more, we'll seek you more, we'll do better in honoring you with our lives and our commitments and our decisions as your spirit helps us. Thank you for never leaving us alone. Horrible to be by ourselves. Thank you that we never have to be alone
Starting point is 01:39:00 because you're always with us. Bless us and keep us in Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. Amen. 85 South show. Tad Trinley. All things new, baby. That's real.
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