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Episode Date: February 24, 2024

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Yeah That's when you, that's when You used to run Niggins and dive on the niggins. Then it's robbing this Yeah, that shit was wild back there, but I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, that's what basketball was. I loved you.

I couldn't play in this shit right now. I filed out this motherfucker. Yeah, you'd be out. This motherfucker, yeah. Three games. Yeah, then y'all, yeah, I'd be having a hundred games suspension and shit. I'd be to slap the shit out of one of these niggas and shit. These niggas be acting like holes and shit.

There's too many lights kid, niggas. Yeah, yeah. And then... Shut your eyes up, man. I mean, you're going to do it. I lost your damn mind. Too many tall, young yellow niggily. You got out of the hell.

See what I'm saying? See what he's saying that? Nah. Check this out. Is he bright skin or dark skin? I'm right in between of us. He brown. Who that?

I'm brown. Shippole bad brown, nigg. Shut your ass up, dude. Pote a bad brown. I'm checking. Bigger. on your head. Yeah.

Cigarillo Brown. You feel me? Right. Playing the Golden Arrow, though. Yeah, that shit was tough, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I loved it, though. It was different.

It was different. Yeah. Yeah, it was different. Yeah, it was different. No. Not today. No. Hell no.

Especially when they got their look. What do they got? When they got their little booths in the audience. They can't focus. Man, they were lost their mind back then. Man, I don't even know how they're not going to be coming in the gym. I'm like, goddamn many young boys coming in the gym with some different shit on them.

What's about the deed day? Yeah, they're going to short and short, man. They stay from overseas. Them necks go overseas too much. They go to L.A. fitness guy that was a drawl on in the other. That's like a motherfucker. With the draws on. With their draws on.

All right. See what I'm saying. Who's doing that. That shit crazy. That's what I'm saying. I ain't even going in that there. I'm going to stay the fuck away from that. If a nigga is going to do that, I ain't going in there.

Like, this is a goddamn spot in Charlotte, where I live in Charlotte, North Carolina. That goddamn YMCA downtown, I think it's called the Dow Y. Man, I went in that motherfucker like a couple of times, man. These motherfucking white men be walking around that motherfucker, just bare ass, just walking around the motherfucker. I'm like, what the fuck? What the fuck is going on this motherfucker?

They ain't even in the locker room. I'm like, yeah, man. You know, man. They go to scale right there about to do. And no, in a lot, in the, it's just when you're at there when you're going to change your clothes and these motherfuckers coming to the goddamn steam room. I'm sitting in the steam room.

Oh, shit, yeah. That's what I want. Get all this alcohol and shit out me. Get all this shit out of me. I'm laid back. Man, the motherfuckers coming there with the balls hanging out and all that. Yeah, man, I had to get out of that, man. These white folks are got there.

That's a lot of queer motherfuckers. I ain't got nothing against it. Now, if somebody in here doing that shit, nah, that's what you're doing. But I'm just saying I ain't got nothing against it, now, now. That's just stay in your life. That's all I'm saying.

But I'm just saying, man, but goddamn, I don't, that'll stop me from going to your establishment if I see shit like that. I ain't going to be. gone. They can't put no sign up. Warning, maybe you can't do that. You can't do that shit. So that's what I ain't, I try to damn ride a bike like I do.

Get up in the morning and ride my bike. I was going to ask you, what does retirement look like? Oh man, God damn. It's a beautiful thing though. But the only thing, you got to still take care of your motherfuck of the stuff, nigg. You can't got there and just be lack of You know, it's a good life, you know. God damn, every day it's the weekend, you know.

You know, so, you know, so, and then, but you got to damn take care of yourself, you know, on the other split side of this shit because, you know, I'm 58 years old, so. How the hell I was going to know that? Jay, what, switch it up to the original content, aka the family. There you go.

Hell, yeah. Yeah. Let's go. How was you when you got in the lead? Oh, shit. I was an old-ass goddamn nigga. You know, back in that, when I come in, they weren't letting us come out and in first year and come out of high school and shit. So the shit was like, it was like, I was 23, I think.

Yeah, 23. Yeah, I was 23. Yeah, I was 20. Oh, yeah, yeah. All time leading scored at the University of Florida. Ooh, that's cool. Yeah. You're still holding that down too, huh?

Oh yeah, yeah, you know, this motherfuckers ain't gonna stay in school long enough to do what I did. You know what I mean? Motherfucker, you go on the first year. Yeah. You know, because I beat your record in one year. That's a bad motherfucker.

That's what I'm trying to say, my school. There we go, there we go. That was a big. You put the cold in. That you go down, Mike. Shit and me. All time leading score. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I got by 18 motherfucking records at that school in basketball. Oh, you hooped out. Oh, yeah. He went crazy. Mm-hmm. You was in the swamp. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm born and raised out of Gainesville. Oh, so you was right in your backyard. How that fell? Yeah, I'm from, yeah. I'm from Gainesville. Yeah, I mean, I think I grew up like about two and a half miles away from that motherfucker. Mm. It was a beautiful thing, man, because I got recruited real hard by God damn, God bless him, Jim Valvano.

They won the championship in 83. Mm-hmm. I was coming out in 84. He came down, he spent a lot of time down there in Gainesville, fucking with me. You know what I mean? He used to be at my high school. He was at my mom, Dukes, and, you know, I was, you know, but, you know, back then now, they had bags too back then, too now.

If you was a motherfucker, you know, you got to be a, if you're a motherfucker, you can get a bag back then too. So it's safe to say you got a little bag under the table before you got to Florida. Well, you can say that our rigors, you're tired now, right? Yeah. You didn't pay your ass to come to Florida then? Well, God damn, no. Well, we're gonna-

Hey, man, hey, hey, hey. It was like NIRL did. That man said a bag. He ain't say what was in the bag. He didn't say, I picked the bag, all right, all right, all right. We just say, marijuana. You don't say, that you're not.

He said he had an NIL deal. It was an NIR deal. It was an NIR deal. I had a, well, Florida really, but no, but really, though, I don't like North Carolina State, but I had never been no motherfucking way. You know, I'm a country-ass bunking-ass, nigga. I'm a country boy.

You know, I'm from Goddeningfield, Florida. My mom ain't let me go too far away from that motherfucker. You know what I mean? And because, you know, she knew I was crazy. But besides that point, but I'd never been nowhere really like that. But besides the Orlando or some shit like that, Jacksonville, I ain't, you know, playing ball somewhere all up and down in the state. But I'd never been like, and then motherfuckers put me on a plane to go to damn North Carolina State to Raleigh, North Carolina.

And then I was like, oh my goodness, goddamn. I said, God damn, when I got a goddamn plane, I looked at that, I was, even when I took the first step off that goddamn motherfucking, they flew me back in their plane, their team playing with the coaches and shit. So when I walked out that motherfucker, when I touched the first step off that goddamn plane, I said, oh, shit, I know I ain't going to this motherfucker. This motherfucker, I flew two hours and a half to come to this motherfucker. I knew it to take my mom in them and we fucked up. So I know it was taking my motherfucker, mom and them got damn back, got there, about at least eight to nine hours to get to this motherfucker. And I would say, oh, shit, no.

I know I ain't come this motherfucker. Ain't no motherfucker away, because I know, I mean, I know, you know, but before I got to the motherfucker on the visit, my mom already had told me like, motherfucker, let me tell you something. Now, my mom was a motherfucker's something, man. As a country, yeah, she was like a probation officer and shit. She was, really. So, and my mom, she was like, she was like, nigga, let me tell you something. Don't put your name on none of my, not, don't sign shit.

I get there. She said, don't sign shit. She said, just don't sign shit, because it was really, but we had a bag at Florida that we already had. Of Legos. You know, we had a motherfucking bag. So, and they had already helped us out. Right.

You know what I mean? So, and I was like, well, damn, I was like, I ain't, you know, I just verbally, I went up to North Carolina State, and I verbally committed to them motherfuckers. I was like, yo, um. Coach Valvano, I verbally commit to North Carolina State and then the motherfather. And then he told his boy, you know, Dick Vettel. When he told Dick Vattel, that's his main man, you know.

So when he told him. He told everybody. Oh, man, Dick Vattel came out and told it and said it and shit. And before I got there, I landed in Gainesville and shit on the airplane off of North Carolina State airplane in Gainesville. My motherfucker, my motherfucker, my mama, my mama, like, damn, well, we ain't fucked up in money, didn't.

We good? We ain't fucking no money, dude. I was like, nah, we're good. We don't fuck that in money. You know, I was like, no, I just, I just said, I mean, got there. I mean, it was a great visit, you know, because a man, I mean, I mean, he did, about Vanano, he did, I mean, it was a great, man, I was one of the best visits I had.

And I took all six of my motherfucking visits, too. You know, I mean, everywhere. Yeah, yeah, you get six visits, motherfucker. Where you go? Yeah, I forget the motherfuckers. I went all across America. That's when I knew I wasn't going to the motherfuckers. Because I could just go for the weekend and go hang out and have a good guy there.

Yeah, this motherfucker, I think I went to Nebraska or some shit like that. I was like, I know I ain't going no motherfucking Nebraska. When I was winning that motherfucker, I see it all the cornfields like that motherfucker. I was looking at one in that motherfucker. I was saying, man, these fucking crazy, man, no disrespect. I'm sorry, that's where... They know it too.

That's well... They look around like, how did I get it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna do it. So, and then I'm not gonna do it. And then I went to West, I went to, I went to, I ain't have to go to Florida. Shit, I stayed on Florida campus. Shit, I went to Kentucky. I went to, shit, I went to a bunch of motherfuckers.

I mean, I don't know. I forget, man. But I was, like, top-rated. I was 15th in the nation, so I went to a bunch of motherfuckster place. And then football, I should have came and played. Like, I was a football player, too. And my motherfuckers don't know that, you know. What position you playing?

Cornerback. And why I received a point return. That's a perfect position for you. Oh, you can jump, too. I know you were picking, well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, what do you see what you say? What you say? In picks, yeah. Damn right. And that's what I was.

Yeah. I had 16 picks my senior year. Damn. Now you're snatching them bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I feel like wide receiver playing cornerbacks. Okay, and I was, you know, I was running for two-fort. You know, yeah.

I was blazing, yeah. You know, so you ain't playing Florida. They wouldn't let you, or you just didn't. No, they wanted me, too, but I wasn't going to do that shit. I couldn't because, you know, I was smoking too much do, man. I had done a lot of shit, man. This is a lot of shit I was doing, man. Without the college, man, it was a lot of shit I was doing.

I was a lot of shit, but to be honest, you man, I don't know how I made it. Most of the nigg was on dogs. Lawrence Taylor and Michael Irvin, that nigg was monsters. Oh, man, I'm telling you, they were doing like I was doing too. Man, Mac. When did you get the name? man, man. Oh, man, like I told it, like early, man.

I was going to stay on the podcast early. When I was probably, you know, like, man, these motherfuckers. You know, but hey, listen now, I want everybody. They can say that first. Listen, I am not motherfucking racist, okay? I know there ain't number brothers in this motherfucker. I'm like, who's going to, he, he's going to say crappler, too. You're going to say crap.

I'm not motherfuckered racist. I'm not as a motherfucker. That's the part of the floor. Yeah, that's part of the world. I'm talking to all my families over here. All my peoples and I appreciate everybody coming out. God damn, I'm not racist. But, ah, no, I'm just gonna leave that long.

Okay, but. All right. What do them cracker do, man? Hey, man, welcome back to 85,000. Yeah, let me, yeah, and ask me that question again. Ask me that question again, because I really got something to say, though. Okay, bet.

Well, look, before we even get it started, man, man, We ain't even gonna do this shit long because we already ain't here talking good shit and getting straight to it. We're gonna bring nothing but straight, hood, ghetto legends through the 85 Southshould. That's exactly what we do, man.

And we all grew up super sports fans, and we've seen this man one of the greatest to do it, played in some of the coldest NBA games in history, a legend, a ghetto Hall of Famer. That's right. The craziest nigga they ever let put on, put the jersey on. The motherfucker won't put me in the Hall of Fame because what I've done.

You already in the Hall of Fame. Hey, we put you in the Hall of Man 12 in here. On the next wheel. Good day. Put in the next well. Yeah, man. My people. I love it.

I love it. Your legacy gonna live forever. No doubt. My goodness, thank you, my people. That's a blessing, man. The ones who know, no, man. And just to see. see all the great things you did on the court.

And like we said, in the golden era of the NBA, it's an honor and the privilege for you to stop through the show and just kick it and talk some shit with us. Come on, man. That's what I love to do, man. That's what, you know, I'm an old, cool-ass nigger, you know, a real-ass nigger. You know, I'm southern-ass nigger.

Exactly. And that's what I do. You know, that's what we do. You know, we keep it real homage and, you know, with our peoples. You know, I couldn't wait. All my people's, they said, 85, sound. Damn, B, they won't be on 85 south.

Most definitely. The niggas was like, oh, my goodness, nigga, you got the gold. Nigger, all my niggas, this is all my niggins. Exactly, this is, this is crazy. I love it. I love it. Goddamn, let's go, let's go, let's go.

That's my crack. That's my crew over there, all my nigg. They're a retired NBA legend would have accrued deeper than rappers. Right. I ain't know where the fuck was going on. He's got one young niggas over there. Right.

Everybody from Florida? Everybody from Florida. They're from everywhere. Everywhere. He's from Florida too. Everybody looked like they clutching too. They ain't on no bullshit over there either. You can fuck around you want to.

You know, we got athletes over there. We got a goddamn, oh, that's a whole motherfucking bunch of shit going over there. It's all kinds of people over there. They got tablets and shit. They're taking over, man. I love this black eggs. as we got going on today. Oh, man, that's where we gotta keep this shit going.

I just played that 100 black man, like golf tournament yesterday. I was. The Doug Williams was over there. You know, he was like major, you know, and that part of the event. So, but it was great, man. It was a bunch of motherfucking black men

out that motherfucker powerful. Money. I mean, that's right. There's nothing like black money. Lawyers and just play the game and enjoy the game. And it was, it was just, man, That shit was special, man.

That's what I came down here, but I knew I had to do y'all. But I was, like, glad this shit fell right in line, you know. So it was perfect, man. Oh, my goodness, this shit. I'm so happy to be here, man, too, man. Man, you can stop through here anytime. If you just hear some shit, you feel like you need to say. I don't say that shit, now.

Man, don't be saying that shit now. Cam, we got everybody out of damn information. We're coming back. Cam because we're gonna beat through here now. Yeah, let me know. No, yeah, we need you to just get the game to the people like you just said. You said, you don't know how you made it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they need to him, bro. Well, goddamn, well, shit, I mean, you, if you, you want, how I made it is. Yeah, shit, man. This nigga move slow. We all got a story. I'm gonna get it.

What the fuck I do. That nigg was like a moose. Get up, man. God damn ghost, what that niggas? That niggas, what? That my motherfucker came. He can. Hey, niggas, come through him.

Come the way next time, my nigga. I love you, boy. That's my guy right there, camera, God, right there. Hell yeah. He brought the tablet. Oh, that motherfucker bad. It's still in the place.

He's hooked up, because I use it tonight. Yeah, yeah. Don't send me no bill. Is it like, is it? Now you get a 12 months free. I can make money. Doing what? No, don't see me nothing to do no fraud and shit.

You all were talking about bank accounts and shit. That's a chip. That's a chip. No, you know you can get paid off the bank accounts. Well, what do you mean? Banking account? And all you doing is somebody else. Oh shit.

They give them out. Is it on? So if I take it out the box right now, I can use it. Get online and everything. With no bill. No Wi-Fi or nothing. Just. I knew the shit was too good to be true

I don't know nothing that shit was too good to be true but that ain't about But that nika, I hope in the way you go You have Wi-Fi You have mobile You know what I'm saying So long as you get Wi-Fi, you're straight

I mean you need Wi-Fi with anything ain't shit gonna work without Wi-Fi You gotta have Wi-Fi and you earn points And then let's say Yeah, see All right, Javier, come put this This is my fucking

Now y'all got to talk to my nigga about all this shit right there You said, I'm not to put Tell Javier to open it then turn the Wi-Fi on, then he can bring it back when the Wi-Fi jumping. Yeah, we're gonna make sure this shit will fly it right. And it's all legal too, man.

Yeah, it's legal. We paid for the Wi-Fi. Now, them his tablets, my Wi-Fi. Say that again, that's his tablet. Right. My Wi-Fi. Now, you say- Nothing about where he got the tablet from.

What you want? What's saying? But it's my Wi-Fi. Tell what you're saying. You said you run a 4-240? You ran the 4-2-40? Yeah, yeah, back in the-off. Ain't something that Florida...

But say, motherfuck can't teach us how to run back then, though. But Florida bring the fastest niggas-knickers down. Yeah, we weren't able to run. The last-st-signers from Florida? We wasn't taught how to run back then. These motherfuckers go to trainers and these motherfuckers goddamn go to this goddamn simulators and shit, learning how to run and shit, man.

We don't... Man, we were just running like. I was running wild, but I was running 4-2, 40, you know, 4-3. You think all that extra training this shit be hindering motherfuck-a-fucking? It's real country, man. Man, I know what this nigga was doing. That fucking jazz. A nigga was fast.

Yeah. These niggas never running with shoes. Man, them niggins say... Well... You can have shoes, bro. Don't do the dick like, man. No, I'm saying... Now, you're right.

That's when I ran my fast. It's time. I'm trying to tell you, man. You got to get bad foot, nigga. Let me tell you, you got to get on your motherfucking bad foot to run the fastest time you want to run. I mean, I'm talking about I don't give a damn if you're on gravel. If you do on it around. God damn.

I'll just fuck with you next. I just fuck with your niggins. I just fuck with your niggins. I don't say what you mother. I won't see what you motherfucker won't say something laughing. But no. But no, you got the goddamn on the street. I would rather.

Get out my goddamn shoes and get on the street, money. You know, I run back foot on the street, yeah. On the street? Yeah, goddamn, I'm on country boys. I'm from Gainesville, Florida, nigga. That's what we do? No, not, yeah. They don't run the road no more.

You think how they train? We used to run a stop sign and stop sign, huh? All they train and make fucking soft because these motherfuckers that don't even play outside no more. Like, on business, all that's why the motherfucking game is so fucked up. Man, that's why the fucking games. So fucked up.

Because niggas don't play outside no more. They don't play against older motherfuckers. Like we used to play against grown-ass man when we was kids and shit. Like, I just played against motherfuckin'nigas was 30 and shit. I was like 15 and shit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I'm gonna drop down. Yeah, they'd be like, hey, you better get this mother's. I'm getting buckets, bitch. I don't give my fuck. I'm gonna drag your old ass nigg. I'm gonna drag your old ass nigg. Run your old ass of death, because I just remember, I'm fans. I'm going to run that old ass nigger to death.

And pull somebody straight up on that old ass name. Man, I'm going to fuck that old ass man up. We can't, shit, that man can't play with two, three games. I'm going to get big man. You know, you can't lose back in the day. Got damn you lose back in the day, niggas. Take about five, six games before you get back out of that motherfucker. Nigger, unless you're a bad motherfucker, then the nigga be like.

That's a real tough. And then unless you're a bad motherfucker like, I was, and yeah, niggas, don't forget that. Like you're a bad motherfucker like I was, the nigga picked you at the next can. Oh man, Max, you know, oh yeah, break Max on back in him. Yeah, so unless you wasn't me, nigga, y'all wasn't.

Nah, nah, motherfucking, this motherfucking building was doing that. What you said? I'm not, that's right? Hey, come on, niggas. None of you, niggas. No, no. None of them nays got picked up on the park.

Bro, the goddamn. When they got down, when they lost, and it's a, the coach packed, and they got picked right back up. Look at the who said that. Look at my nigga. Stand up, my nigga. Stand up, my nigga. Look at that nigga. He said he did.

And nobody else said that with him. How the hell that happened? Who he was playing with? Cam you? My nigger, my nigger, my nigger, right there. He's playing against you. That's my nigga, I love it now. But goddamn, I don't know that.

Nah, I ain't know all that was going on. That's the real shit, yeah. I ain't know all that shit was going on. That's real shit, yeah. No, I was just real one thousand. I didn't know my nigg was a killer like that cab. Oh, he's moxie? Oh, he'd be dribbling all day.

He was moxie-pose. Where are you from? Oh, okay. That's my nigga. I love him. Okay, okay. That's my nephew, got that. I thought he was one of New York dribbling motherfucking.

That's my nephew. about that. That's you? That's you? Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord.

Oh, no. No, not that one. Shoot it. No, no, no, no. Stop, man. No, that's that New York shit, all that hip-hop. New York. That's no, do not.

Do not bring that shit in the game. That's why a lot of niggas don't make it. Because all the, hey, hey, hey, hey, stop all this shit. That's what he, man, that boy, he tell you keep telling Oh, you just don't understand, man. You ain't never seen me play, niggas, stop. Man, if I won't see you, goddamn,

how are you gonna snatch some motherfucking body, Marry? Now, damn, why, nigga, he ain't? You tell myself, I'm like, God damn, I'm looking at him. Stand up, Marry. Look at him. He's snatching, niggins. Look at the snatching niggas.

Look at your snatching no body. Look at you snatch somebody, niggas. Look at you snatch somebody, niggum. Come in. I'm right here. Right there. What? Oh, yeah, that's nothing.

Oh, no, no, nigga, that's nothing. That's nothing. I'm just going to test it. That's nothing. I'm just saying a lot of my niggins show, but I love all my people over here. I think all my people's coming out. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, I got to get credit to a lot of help, too, first of all. But I was, you know, yeah, them nays. Yeah. I would do something. I would do something. I would do something. That was a playoff team almost a year. Shit.

Well, we didn't start out like that though. When I first got there in like, in 91, 901, when I first, we weren't first. We was like, we was under 500 teams. 500 team and shit when I went on that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Was there the player that gave you a hard time? You like, damn, this nigga, he'll just like that. I can't do shit with it. There's so many of them motherfuckers that should do that to me. There was so many motherfuck was so tough. Back when I played, man, I mean, night in, night out. See, you can have nights off in this motherfucker right now in the league.

But back when I played, man, I can just go down there. I'm trying to, and if I forget some motherfuckers, y'all could tell me. tell me who you're most underrated motherfuckers who you feel don't get enough credit that you actually had to go out there and play and know that they was like that like you said my home boy Mitch Richmond

oh yeah he was a dog he's underrated like a motherfucker that motherfucker was a killer man Mitch Westman yeah yeah we can we played against each other in high school and all that stuff I mean he was a he knew how to use that big body and Mitch was a killer

But see, back then, see, Mitch had the mid-range. See, these guys don't... These motherfuckers don't play with the mid-range no more. They don't fight. Either the motherfuckers are going to shoot the three or they're going to drive all the way to the goddamn basket. The fucker, don't forget about that in-between game.

That's what the game is made at. That's how you get going. You play the game right through there. That's how the game was invented. Right. You know, bam, pump-faker motherfucker. You jump shoot, motherfucker. Like Steph Curry, that one fucking

know how to play the game. Yeah. Who's your top five new schools? Huh? Who are your top five new schools of today? Today? You just watch them all the time, like. Oh.

Curry, Ron, the white boy, the center. Which one, Jokic? Yeah. Yeah. Um, um, uh, Jah. Uh.

Yeah. Um. Shit. I said LeBron didn't. Yeah, he said Brian. I like, I like, but I gotta get my boy someone. I got to get him. I ain't like what he did when he came right to the press conference and shit.

With his hat shit. Jim Blah. Oh, Jim Blah. Oh, yeah. That's my nigga too. I like Jim Bullock. That nigga a dog, you know. When they're all, when all boys dies, you know, he gonna show up.

You know, so he died just like him because he gonna, he gonna, he gonna carry the ball. niggas yeah he gonna he gonna be he gonna be who he gonna be yeah who you couldn't stand in your time in the NBA like man fuck this shit we gotta play these niggas damn hmm shit well I couldn't stand no shit shit well I couldn't oh I couldn't stand well shit I ain't want to see god damn I ain't want to see Mike this shit I ain't want to see Mike right right Anybody want to see Mike back then?

I ain't want to sit goddamn Mike, shit. I'm glad I was sitting that motherfucker two times a year. See, I was on the West. Right, okay. I went playing that motherfucker six times a year. I was playing everybody else six times a year in the West, you know. And shit, probably Mike, you know. Yeah.

No, it's a goddamn, it was a problem, nigga, when you got there, when you play against that motherfucker, man. Yeah. I'm just, I mean, I mean, it's just. It's a goddamn problem. I mean, ain't no goddamn, when you go in that goddamn arena, well, before you walk in the arena, you better have your mind set and write the night before. You know, you better get your motherfucking mind right.

God damn, and if your mind ain't right, night before, me because, you know, black cat, black Jesus, whatever we used to call that motherfucker, he coming. Yeah. He's coming. That motherfucker coming. Ain't no... You better get your rest. God damn.

Yeah. That's what I'm telling you. Yeah. And that's really, like, one of the only motherfuckers, you know, and I knew it. And, but, you know, and that's really, like, might be rest against, like, other motherfuckers, but I'll talk about them later. But this motherfucker I'm talking about right now, shit, you got the, I used to have to have to got them lay down, got them put my feet.

above my motherfuckin' chest I can get all the circulation coming back in the middle I gotta get ready for this motherfucker but I know this mother's every goddamn every goddamn time you know he don't know

he'll not take his feet off your throat you know he's gonna put his feet on your throat and he's gonna keep it on it if you let him so what we used to I love that and that's what I wanted do you see anybody in the league right now

that would bring that quick as hell. Nah, yeah. Fuck those. What the fuck ain't me talking about? So nobody bring that energy like that? Damn. They're just relentless. He said, you said, y'all would a man handle

LeBron back in the day. Y'all the man had a little. No, no, see, this is what I said. I never did say that about LeBron. I said, LeBron is one of the motherfuckers. as one of the motherfuckers could play in the NBA when we played in the NBA. That motherfucker's six, eight.

Yeah, he can play in it. Yeah, that motherfucker, you see when that motherfucker get it downhill, I don't give a damn movie, man, that motherfucker got a man, what the fuck what the fuck we're talking about, man? Come on, money, man. That fuck, you're talking. You don't hear something, something.

Come on, man. You're talking about the father. That motherfucker, you... Now, if you said another motherfucker, like Kyle Reed or something, He got too much side of them. He got a lot of shit. Knocked that motherfucker in the stance.

No, Carvee, you know. Hey, Des, Daddy, Daddy. I'm sorry, Dedrick. Dedrick to Daddy. Dedrick to Daddy. That's Kyrie's Daddy. Dad, I apologize. I haven't just said.

But you know how I played. But it's true. I'm just, I'm just going to have him truth. Yeah, I'm just saying. But that's my people. I love them, you know, but I'm just saying, but motherfuckers be danced with that ball, like they'd be dancing with that ball,

and you couldn't do that back in the day. I push your little ass right on in the stand where you want to go to. You got me. Right on in that motherfucker. Right on in the motherfuckold man, right on the motherfucker's stand still. I'm going to go in there with you, too. I just see you on a few different shows. But you've got to feel, man.

You got a feeling, motherfucker. There ain't nobody brought up. He was a cold-ass shooter, too. Oh, yeah, yeah. How you developed this shit? Oh, man, see, and that's another thing, too. Like, back in the day, like, when I came up, man, see, I'm a 65, baby. I'm 58 years old.

And, I mean, back in the day, we, we ain't had nobody to, we ain't had no motherfucking gun. You know, like, you know, I grew up by a motherfucking graveyard. Our basketball court was wrapped by the graveyard. I'm scared as hell the graveyard. I'm scared to die. I don't want to die, nigga. I'm scared. I want everything I love.

I don't get down. I want everybody to know that. I know I got a short time. I'm 50-8 years old. I say I got about, at least by, I'm going to make a hundred, niggily. There you go. That's what you're supposed to say.

I'm going to make a hundred. But I'm just saying, but I'm scared to die. scared that. So, so, but I'm just saying, man, but you just, man, this, I don't want to talk about. You talk about this shot, man? The shots. The shots, man. I know I made a lot of goddamn shots, but, man, I used to work out by a graveyard, man. And when I worked out in a graveyard, man, and I knew I couldn't miss a lot of shots because I

didn't want the brother to go over there by the graveyard. Right. So I just have to concentrate like I'm in the game. And I used to, you know, visualize myself like, because when I mean, I just like, shoot, bam. I couldn't shoot a lot, you know, because, you know, when the lights come on, my mom tell me I better have my ass back at the house. And then I just get my, you know, I just, I didn't talk about that. But I had to be back at the house.

So I learned how to shoot doing that, you know, because I ain't had nobody to rebound for me. I ain't had nobody to do nothing for me. So I learned all that, but heart came from where I came from where I lived at. And where I lived at the Sugar Hill, it's on the southeast side of Gainesville, Florida. You know, my hood, all my niggas, and that's why I learned this heart and that grit. And don't never back down from whoever, I don't fuck, whoever you plan against, God damn, you gotta kill me. You know, when I'm playing a game,

motherfucker, you gotta kill me. Because this ain't nothing, bitch. I know you can't kill me. Bitch, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do what you do to me. And I'm gonna do more than what you do to me. I'm in, cause I know my mindset is so motherfucking crazy. My mindset crazy than a motherfucker. I know it is.

And I know me, and I know ain't no nigga won't lose this. You know, because, nigga, I ain't care about losing no goddamn money in the goddamn NBA. Y'all lose a bunch of money with your bitch-ass. You know what I mean, nigga? I lose a bunch of money with your motherfucking bitch-ass, nigga.

I don't give a fuck, nigger. We can lose all our whole fucking year check. I don't give a fuck, we can goddamn do this shit from, I don't give a fuck. But, you know, I was that kind of nigger. And so, but I ain't saying I was the baddest, nigga. But that's a baddest, nigga. where I was, but my mind said, and a lot of niggas, they knew that.

You know, this niggas is crazy. You know, so, but there it is. And then, but learn, shooting, making big shots. Like, I didn't care about taking the last shot, and that's why I made a lot of last shots and won a lot of games and shit, running out of bounds, shooting a bitch, turn around. You know, but I ain't care because, you know,

the next day in the paper, the motherfolks gonna come to you and say, You know, I didn't do money back. The motherfucker would be like, talking about something. Damn, this motherfucker lost the game. Yeah, I did, motherfucker. Yeah, I'm going to raise my hand. I'm going to say, I took that goddamn shot. I did.

I lost that goddamn guy. But that's what they're going to put it on. Because it wasn't really mean. And the fans, I mean, real motherfucking fans know it ain't mean. But I'm going to take that motherfucker. So I wasn't scared to take that motherfucker. That's why I made a lot of gang winning shots in the NBA. A lot of them motherfuckers, no doubt.

That shit, that pressure wasn't on you, man. No, I don't give a fuck, though. Really, it's still in the day. That's why I keep my tool on me and all this shit. All that shit. Did you have any other athletes in your family that came out, like either ball and the football, like you said, you play football too?

Yeah, I had my oldest son. He was a hooper, and he was a football player, Vernon Jr. Man, he's out in Houston. He's working. Uh, shit, my youngest son, Brandon, he went up to a school, a motherfucker, white man tried to kill him. What?

Yeah, yeah, so, but then he's, he's working, he's living in Jacksonville right now. But then, but now I got my oldest, my son and my second marriage and ex-wife, my people, Tristan Maxwell, he's at Hampton University. Okay. He's the man over there. Okay. He got the ball in his hand, got damn, that motherfucker got a chance to make it. to make it.

He's just got a go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got a chance to make. This motherfucking go. This motherfucker's pretty red-ass nigg can go. Yeah, he can go. And then I got my baby boy at North Mech High School, which really the name is Bernie Leon Maxwell for the motherfucker.

He'd be like, you know, Trey, I'm talking about your ass. He said, no, man, we're going to, we call him Trey. Okay. He don't want to be. He said, yeah. So, Tray, try, love you, boy. Let's go North Mac. Here, North Mac, we're an 18th team in the nation.

His teammates is Isaiah Evans going to Duke. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, going to Duke. Awesome. You got it all through the family, man. Oh, man. But were you the first? You were the first one to make it at that level.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody never. Yeah. Good shit. That's crazy. What would you say was your best game? In your crew, like the one that just stand out the most to you. When I had the damn, I think when I had 51.

Yeah. Back then, 51. Against what team? Cleves and Cavaliers. The Cav. Did you have a team that you knew you was going to go off on? Or that just happened? No, not really, no.

Because that shit, that shit tough, man. Yeah. Can I get a bottle of water out here. Yeah. Yeah, that shit, man, that shit tough, man. That shit tough as hell. Yeah, let me go. There you go.

Appreciate it, man. Yeah, yeah. Anybody else want one? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hell yeah. Go on one. Yeah, hell yeah. Still over here.

Oh, oh. Freaky bold. He's bringing wine. There's a man who's over with you. Don't pull it up. He pulled them. He pulled the wind out and talking about here in freaking mode. Shut, man.

Don't say that shit to us. I was talking to myself, man. to myself. What to say it in your mind. Think this shit. Don't do it. Just thinking. Okay.

Okay. I'm sorry. And I saw the Michael Jordan documentary. He said they used to smoke and drink during the half time. Is that true? Back in the day,

50 miles, shit on them. Let's see you. Let's get to that part. Let's go. Let's get to that part right now. Let's get to that part. Now, back, see, but you got to understand, Mike is older than me now. He's a little bit older than me.

He's like, what Mike got me about? I don't know. I think about three, four years and shit like that. So he about three, four years old of me. But he came in an era where the motherfucker was doing a lot of shit. Starting a lot of room. Before the game? Four the game, rock of the game, doing the game. Doing the game.

That motherfucker's shit, big. Not, I mean, in the locker room, there's a lot of shit going on, man, back then. When I came over, man, there was a lot of shit. When I came in the league back in 1980, 89, there was a lot of shit going on. They said the boy mascot used to sell cocaine. See what I'm saying? You had been playing with a nigga and you know he had. You had the free throw line.

Like, bro, you need to cool the fuck out, bro. We're on national TV. You hide some motherfuckers. No, I just, no, I would never be. blast a nigga like that. What's going on, man? Y'all good? What we're doing out of this?

What we doing out of this? What? You're acting like you all know me in front of all these. Fuck. No. No. Cran. That's a smoke shit.

Me sweating for the game's going. Never will do that. They just keep getting dressed and undress. Y'all ain't ready for me? All right. All right. Fuck it. They get back on.

Cold in this motherfucking, burn. Who win the game, first? Who's winning the game for it? I could never talk about that. I wouldn't never say nothing about that. Did we win the game? I wasn't talking about. Did we win?

Did everybody have a good time? That's all I care about. Oh, I'm a motherfucker. Yeah, I do. Yeah. I believe it. You make too much money, not too much money. You take too much money not to do the same shit in the locker room you do at home.

Right, right, right, right. You make a lot of money. I'm here to play now. Don't worry about what's in my bag. I'm going to play. Mm-hmm. You passed through old niggas. You spent like Henness and moved.

Yeah. You can fuck like, took the fuck off my neck. You're just sweating all right. You're just sweating on your head. Yeah, that's right. I can see it. That's right, my people. I can see it.

You have to play. When you say Michael Joy was a motherfucker, did you ever have to play against Dennis Robin? Yeah, that's my God, man. God, God, God, God, God, God, God, shout out to Dennis, man. Everybody gave it up for the dinners. Yeah.

Come on, man. Hey, this is the only motherfucker that can go to career and talk to Kim Jones. He's the only one. Yeah, he's the only one. He's the only one over there and talked about. Vladimir Putin and shit. Yeah, I just lived that motherfucker, man.

God, that's why I was a story. I'm about to tell you. Me and him had the same agent. I should live with that motherfucker out there. We had a duplex out there. Our agent had a sudden heel, it was the bottom part. I lived in the top part. This motherfucker was, yeah, that motherfucker was everything he, like he, you know.

That's advertised. I love you, Dennis. Now, you know that. That's my motherfucker. I love that. You know that motherfucker? That's my nigga. Fuck Dennis.

I love him. I'm not going to do shit. I'm telling the goddamn story. Motherfuck. Shit. You say I had the same, it wasn't it, long time? Yeah, it was out there on Newport Beach, man. We was right there on the beach, man.

As soon as you walk out on the back, out there on the, you got there on one feet, you goddamn touching the sand. We was right there on Newport Beach, man, out there. Man, that motherfucker was so goddamn crazy, man. That shit was weird, bro. He was a great dude, man. That's what's up. One thing about it, man, he's going to compete, and he's going to work out.

And he was just different. He's going to put on, he's going to marry his motherfucker's self. Mm. Like he did. He married this motherfuckin' You know what I remember that shit in New York? When he married his motherfucking self? Yeah.

Google that shit, niggas. That motherfucker married this motherfucker. He put the dress on and made the whole that shit. Gave itself some pussy in all that shit. He did. Look at the name, gave him. A nigga cheated on itself. You mean, where?

You said it himself. So y'all y'all, y'all, niggas don't remember with that shit? I remember the picture of the dress. I ain't know the nigga married itself. That's what it was. That's what he was doing. We thought it was good. Niggas, we thought this one of folks

going to marry a motherfucker something out. He might be on the something. He married himself, divorced itself, so he can get half of his own shit. Yeah, you might, you might now, damn. It might have been a business move. I don't want to have my own. Oh, right.

But I don't make no sense. What are we doing? Why I gotta go through, pay the lawyers or shit. Then they got to do. You got to pay the lawn and shit. Why I got to do all that dumb shit? You're sure they're not divorced. You're about to just get a whole bunch of tax breaks.

Yeah, that's something weird that way of that shit. But, nah, this is, that's my guy. That shit works. Who hit you? I hit me. All his legs worked. I was talking shit. My wife said I came home and I got mad with me.

You know what? Nick, I said it, buddy. Would you come get me, please, I slap myself. Yeah, my wife don't like people coming to the house. Right. It's just a way to give all your bullshit on. Oh, shit. Y'all keep it down, my wife's sleep.

What you just said? He ain't got no why. He married himself. Y'all didn't see that, nigga. Y'all said, you married a little. Y'all, no, one thing about that one fucking now. And that's one thing I saw. He had Carmen Elektra.

He had, uh... What I said? Madonna. He had the Madonna. Yeah, yeah, shit. He was popping up with him. Who a whole bunch of high-class white women he had?

Yeah, yeah. He's a bad motherfucker. Was he one of the motherfuckers that could party and then play the next game and be fine? Yeah, he was like me. Yeah. You did too? That motherfucker.

I ain't like the regular motherfucker. regular motherfucker I got damn bitch y'all go to sleep if you want to because I'm in these streets you know these streets dude I'm gonna gangfield Florida I'm gonna hang out to four five at the morning if I go sleep at 11 o'clock nigger like these niggas be doing nine days niggins time they gotta get all that rest niggins y'all will kill me then y'all ain't get nobody in the game tomorrow next day nigger let me be mean I gotta get I got got to get I got to hang out to three four in the morning and be doing being really recklessness. I'm drinking, nigger. I'm being like we're doing that now,

nigga. We're me and my niggas who I was fucking with. We're passing blunts, we're smoking, we're getting high, we're drinking. And we parted. That's what I was doing. I got to do this before the game. If I do anything else, you're gonna get a motherfucker gonna score two points. You're gonna pour the all nighter and then had to go play the and didn't get no sleep? done it in the finals when we played against the Knicks. But was bawling on the head.

Ah, man. I'm got to, I can't do nothing but do it. We got to, I got a, shit, it's all about, like I say, it don't matter about rest for me because, man, you got to understand. Motherfuckle, the motherfuckers make us go in the gym at 11 o'clock in the morning. Shit, I got in probably about 9 o'clock in the morning. You know, my family and shit, all of them, share everybody.

I got a bunch of motherfuckers staying in my hotel where I stay at, a lot of people from my hometown. You know, a lot of people, all my homeboys, and people from Houston, all my boys from Houston. So I got about eight, nine rooms in the motherfucking hotel, some shit like that. And so we parted like a motherfucker, so I ended up getting back in that motherfucker

about that, about nine, 8.30, that damn bus lead. bus lead. I told him a goddamn wife, they wake me up. I got them right before they get ready to go because I got a goddamn, I got a goddamn get on that bus at 11 o'clock. I went on that bus. I told Rudy T.

When we got that goddamn to the garden, I told Rudy T. I was like, that damn Rudy T. Shit, I'm just going to listen today. I got to sit my motherfucking dog. That's over. This is this motherfucker right here. I was just going to sit my ass over here and listen what y'all saying today.

I don't even want to take not one motherfucker jump shot. I'm going to sit my ass over here and listen today. And I was over that motherfucker. I was listening. Who did she say, motherfucker? You smell like a goddamn canteen. Oh, motherfucker. Just let me get.

I'm going to be ready to the motherfucker tonight, though. I'd be ready tonight. Right. So, and that was game three, you know, when I was in New York. And that's the game that they say you're supposed to steal, the first game. We lost game two in Houston. And then, so, and when we lost game two in Houston,

so they thought we was done, so the motherfuckers in New York, they dancing all in the streets like they had a motherfucker in New Orleans with umbrellas and all kind of shit. The motherfucker got all kinds of shit going on. So they're dancing all that in the streets, you know, so we pulling up under the goddamn, you know, that guard and that motherfucker's like a dundit.

I don't know what the fuck they take you down to. We got to get on the goddamn elevated. It take about motherfucking 40 minutes and get up that motherfucker to the goddamn main flow. That shit's crazy. I don't know. I don't know what the motherfucker doing in the garden. But so we get up in that motherfucker.

So we know it's us against them. But we know this is a game three is a game motherfucker. You got to go get that game. You got to go get that game. And then we, we, we, we, we, We just wanted to stay close with the motherfuckers. And that's what we did. We stayed close to the motherfuckers.

And unfortunately, you know, it was a blessing that damn. Sam Cassell had a big motherfucker, the young, that damn rookie. Hey, Sam. Hey, baby, boy, you know we love you, baby. 85 South, well, we're out here, my nigger. Sam Cassell. Hey, hey, nigga, come down here, my nigga. You heard my niggas say, tell it, man.

Tell it, my niggas. Come down and stop back and all. Nica, stop like a scare, nigga. Come down here. Come down here. I'm telling you, nigga. We win, bro. Yeah, nigga, yeah.

Yes, we won, but motherfucker. Hey, Sam, when you come in town with the 7 to 60s, take time out, set it up. Come down here fucking my niggins, man, 85 South, okay? But Sam Kucel, besides that, okay, I'm going to get back to this. Yeah, I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna tell that something, bitch, come. That's my nigga. And fuck you, Sam.

Yeah. And, but besides that, that motherfucker hit a big motherfucker shot. Damn. But if he wouldn't hit it, because I was the next motherfucking man in line, I was sitting right over there by my nigga right there, my motherfucker on that motherfucker got damn suit over there. That motherfucker nice hat.

It looks like he got some angel shit going on over there, palm angel shit. I was sitting right over there by him. If he wouldn't a goddamn maid, If he wouldn't have made that motherfucker, I was wide of him right there. Because, you know, I'm a shot making motherfuckers. Everybody here know that. Okay, okay, everybody here.

Yeah. Google me, motherfuckers. Google me. I want every motherfucker back, Google me. But I'm a shot and make it motherfucker. So Sam pulled it up, raised up, made it, bam. And we won it. So after that, shit, boy, I was like, oh, shit.

Y'all know, I was a dead drunk in New York City after that. I was dead drunk. The whole way through. We were out of that motherfucker for a whole week, too. I was dead drunk. I met so many motherfucking goddamn actress. And I was like, Goddamn, well, this motherfucker, I'm meeting this motherfucker here.

Look at this motherfucking bitch right here. This shit is crazy. You didn't fuck with those celebrities back then. You didn't date you no celebrity or nothing like that? Oh, man, I was married, so I didn't even give myself up like that. That do you sound kind of suspicious, though. He said he saw. I saw him.

I saw it. I saw a lot of them. He's like, niggas, did you hit me? I know what that. You know what I mean. You know, one thing I always found, like, entertaining about you when you play ball. Even if some niggas got to argue on the court and you weren't in the argument, you would go get it in that shit. I'm going to stay in some shit.

That's what my mom got out. I'm on. Oh man, fuck. I'm gonna just a ignorant-ass niggins. Why are you gonna lose money in them people argument? And nobody will never come losing no money in your goddamn argument. That shit ain't working now, son. Stay out of the people's shit.

You want to be like you, you lose motherfuck on the court. You want to go out there and fight with everybody, fight against it. I mean, I don't know. Y'all should be fighting back then. Oh, man. You slap the shit out of the motherfucker back there. Yeah. get $250 five.

Baseball too, though. Baseball, they're gonna fight like a motherfucker. No, no, no. The gang ain't changed, man. Oh, these niggas are back up from each other. Oh, man. They ain't even close to each other. No, these niggas in the NBA now,

them niggins be kissing each other. Yeah. They put their face against each other. That would a ladd good fight. My face against those nigger face. Get your chin off my chin. Get your chin off my chin. You can come in there.

You come in on here. I'm like, hey, hey, ain't. You come through him right there, I'm going to hang him. I'm going to hit your motherfucker. I'm going to break your shit up. But not coming through that, nah. You can't. They're going to be in there.

They be kidding. Yeah. They be talking faces and shit. And chances and shit. I'm like, damn. What are the fuck the niggas do? The niggas. Man, hey, man.

No, I love all you, you're going to be chest to chest with another thing. Yeah. He never getting the shit on the carpet? Did it? He over there looking at points. I told him. Freaky his ass.

He's over there. Three years. Oh yeah, it's up. It's up. Hold on. Hold on. Let me close it out. Let me clear the history.

See, it ain't been no good fights lately in the NBA. You said Wallace. Nah, they're motherfuckers scared to fight. Now, they're not. What's the fine now? What's the fine now? What's the fine now? He said $250 back me?

$150 make me? No, shit. No, I'm talking about shit. Well, I got shit. They took a bunch of money for mine. It was like, what? They fucked me up. How much you think in total date

that you got it fast? Well, shit. I know shit. Oh, my goodness. I want my goddamn money back, too. I mean, goddamn. Oh, fuck, shit. Put it somewhere.

They need it. I'm waiting on a goddamn pension, though. But I got damn, the motherfuckers hit me prowling for about damn. Damn, oh my goodness. I really, damn, man, y'all making me think about this bullshit. Okay, don't think about that. No, I'm going to think about it.

I'm going to tell you, motherfuckers too. God damn. I think it's probably about, whew, shit. Probably about that. I lost, when I got one of the fans slapped shit out of that white boy. I was down. You definitely did that. I'm glad you brought it up, so I ain't happened to.

That was, that was. A classic moment. Yes. black history. That is very important for black people. Like, it didn't even, like, at that point. No, because he had this.

It was disrespectful. Whatever you, but that's what I'm saying. We don't even know what he said. He was right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever he said, he was wrecked. If you wouldn't have dead that Montgomery would have never had.

What do you say? But he was talking about my stillborn daughter. And then I was telling the goddamn, I'm telling the goddamn, I'm telling the goddamn motherfucking goddamn security guard, the motherfucking, whatever the motherfuckers be, the ushers, whatever the motherfuckiners be, white folks be, you know, in them goddamn jacket. I'm telling this motherfucker, and it was a nigger, too. Telling the nigger, I said, hey, man, go ahead and tell that motherfucker, man, stop talking

about what he's talking about. But everybody had new. I had my daughter just, I just bear my, you know, my stillborn daughter. And, but, I mean, so I didn't know that that. shit be that deep like that. That's when I learned that that shit is deep. These crackers will say anything to you. And so white boys kept saying, you know, fuck that, you know,

and my, you know, my baby daughter's name was Amber, you know, and fuck this and, you know, and fuck you and you and you know, I'm up there in Portland, Oregon. You know, Portland, Oregon, it's really, it's a really cool place. because the motherfolks stay getting high. They got a lot of, like, but back in the day, their motherfuckers was a little, they was racist too up through there too, you know.

The motherfucker of them, hillbilly motherfuckers with them, you know, so they was racist too up through there. So the white boy, I guess he had found out. You know, they learned a lot about motherfucking professional athletes before you come through their city. And the white boy, I guess he had found out, like, you know, God damn, I'm gonna harass this nigger tonight. And he paid his money to do that.

So that's what this motherfucking goddamn nigga told me. He told me the nigger right here was standing the security guy. I was like, man, when I was sitting right there by niggas, I was telling niggas, man. I was telling me, man, get your motherfucking hands off me, nigga, on my team. Like, you hear what this motherfucker saying? And I said, I tell you what, I told him, I said, man, okay, you ain't going to handle it. So, and the white boy said something again. I said, I swear, I said, fuck it.

So I got up. And I knocked the goddamn security guard, motherfucking ass somewhere over there. And I just politely, I ain't even run up the motherfucker in the stands. I walked up from the motherfucker. I just took my damn time. Because I knew when I got to this motherfucker, I knew I was going to slap the motherfucking shit out of this crap.

Yeah, me, I slapped the goddamn pain out of that crap. I should have hit it. I wanted to hit him a closed fist, though. I just slapped the shit out of him. You know, and then... It's a slap-mode distance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they end up kicking me out

and made a long, so short. Then my folks took... That was $300,000 for 10 games. They suspended for 10 games. That was $300,000. I wouldn't seen David Stern. God bless him. He ain't want to hear nothing.

You know, and I was telling him, you just got to understand where I come from where... You know, what he's done. Right. But he's just like, we're just, we're looking at the camera, burning. We're looking, look at, look at what, look at what's happening. Right. It was like, but you're hearing what we're saying.

Right, right. You know, and then. And then security dude, nigga, hing, hing. You said security. Yeah, he ain't. Yes. That's fucking crazy. But he, but that's back in the day.

You got his head thrown out the way. Yeah, I knocked this ass way over there, but I got them pain over that. So I knocked the shit out of his ass. His little bit ass, his little ass, so. But there, I got that, I probably lost about $550. But you got the NBA hands, so I know that snap. Damn motherfucker, face-shifting, boy. Oh, yeah, I slapped shit out of him.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah The consequence can't just say Anything to anybody The nigga you slap get some money? Oh, the nigga you slap Get some money? Yeah, he the one got the money Oh, damn

That's crazy That's crazy Like maybe because he took him to the court. But that nigger named me, I'll go slap his ass again a day for you here, you're talking about. Yeah, we're going to look him up. We're going to look him up. He's going to be worried about every corner. We're going to be performing in.

We're going to be performing. I'm coming out there, money. I'm coming out there, money. Let me know when you're coming. Like, Kim, get the information. We're going out there and see money back. We're going out to start some shit. No, we're not.

Hey, this is a bad motherfucker I was just about to tell you, too. to tell you too. See, I'm saying, man, stop playing with Muley. But now I gotta get with him and see how you make fun. With them banked account set? Muley Wildest. I'm telling you, man.

Listen, man, Muley Wildest, man. I'm talking with it. They got the 85 South show on that bitch. Oh, that's what's up. Yeah, man. That's all that matter than me. Yeah, yeah. You can get that.

That's what's up. That's who I'm partnering with right there. I heard y'all had a partnership. That's my people. That's why I want to get, I'm giving all you motherfuckers. Like, then I get all your motherfuckers, then I get everybody something, Kim.

And somehow, I'm gonna everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Man, yeah. Man, you gonna get caught jacking off on the tap. Huh?

Huh? What'd you say? Nothing. Shit. I'm on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But you, shit, but you made more money you got fine, though. I know you had fun with it. Yeah, I made fun with it. But, you know, I made 13 men and 13 years. Damn.

That's good. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's some bullshit. Compared to now? Compared to now? Yeah, that was. Yeah, that was.

No, no, no, compared to what I did, man. That's some bullshit, my name. Yeah, that's some bullshit, my nigga. You got the fuck out of here, my nigga. What the fuck are you talking about? Man, you know. What are you about, man? And you didn't see niggas way worse than you in the modern era.

Niggas that they need to play that. You're 150. They're like, god-tale, look at this motherfucker. That niggas played that motherfucker like that. I mean, I was like, man, this shit is crazy. But it's all about, man. Oh, my goodness, man. Motherfuck, god damn, why?

I really, really want to do something, something about it. I'm just kidding. Everybody's kidding. Everybody looks at me like, that big thing about Portland. Because they know you will. No. How you like Moolah?

I fuck with it. Okay. I'm gonna text myself. Can you do it? Yeah, this shit hard. Black on. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Tech company. Tech company. Out of Atlanta, Georgia. Atlanta. Support. Support. They got to come back on Black Market. Yeah.

Oh, no. This shit got to be special, man. Yeah. We got to support the black business. No, no doubt, no doubt. For real, yeah, yeah. I wish he had to fly out today somewhere, I think. Yeah, the New York, so, yeah, that's why he wasn't even being.

I love it. He ain't even had to set the time and shit. It's shit hard. That's right, just put it like a club on that, my fucking stuff. I'm a leader from that to crib. There you go. So what got you into the tech world? Well, no, I just, like, my, my, my, my eldest.

LLC, my Brenner Maxwell Initiative, LLC, that's what got me into it. You know, it's mental health, and that's what this is going to be a part of. And you're going to be able to, like, we're going to make it where you can, like, just hit a button that you have any, you need to talk to somebody or you need to just, whatever you, whatever you need to do. Yeah, just whatever about mental health. I mean, if you feel like you want to do something. I mean, so that's what we're going to, we partner up with that. And that's what that's going to be about. Great shit.

Check it out, man. This is really dope. It's really great. There's a lot of the shit on there. As long as you got the internet, you can do anything on that damn thing. Yeah, you can do anything. Gangville, the only place stayed in Florida? Gainesville is the only place I stayed in Florida.

Yeah, I ain't never flake. I well, I take it back. I stayed down there and, what the shit? Key West, when I was coming out of games field trying to get ready for the NBA drive. Okay. You ever heard of Fort Pee of Florida? Fort Pee.

See, I know, Fort Pee. That sounds hard. Yeah, yeah, oh, that's okay, damn, my boy. You were a home boy. You're a Florida, nigger. I know you got that in Florida, you had the damn tattoos and shit. No, that's what we do.

Them niggas got, Florida nicks, gonna put some tattoos on their motherfucking head and forehead. Nah, that's what the fuck we're gonna do. I already know. Oh, my goddamn homie, that's what those niggas do. Nah, but it's real shit, though. Nah, that's love, homeboy.

Okay, I ain't know that, man. I ain't know what you was from down there? And what team did you think he was going to at first? When I, before I got drafted. Yeah. Shit, they had, they had, But they had... They said I was going to go to Orlando.

But then I heard I was going to Denver. Then I heard I was going to Denver. Then the Denver drafted me. But Denver the one drafted me. When Denver drafted me, I was like, shit, why Denver drafted me? Because they had already some veteran guards in that motherfucker, like Fat Lever and... Yeah, all the motherfuckers.

They had some bad motherfuckers over there, Alex English, and... You know, I come in that motherfucker in their team. 88, they had a bunch of bad motherfuckers. And they, and Michael Adams. Yeah, I had all the motherfuckers over there. Michael Adam. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and Fat Lever, that motherfucker should be a triple-double motherfucker.

And then they had... Alex English. And then they had a bunch of bad motherfuckers. I was like, why Denver drives me? I was like, this motherfucker don't even, what the fuck they ain't drafted for? So, but he did a favor for San Antonio, Popovich, had me traded.

As soon as I got drafted that night, the same night I got drafted, they traded me like an hour later to San Antonio. So I never went to Denver. So I went straight in San Antonio. And that's when I was playing with Alvin Roberts. and them guys like that. You ever played with Abdul,

played with them? Abdu, the one who had Tourette's. Yeah, I played against him. That motherfucker was tough. He underrated, too, though. I'm about to talk about him. I don't like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a killer.

That motherfucker was a killer. That nigga was a killer. That nigga was a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was special. That motherfucker was out there, boy. I ain't want him in no part of that shit. You could stand on the free throw line.

That motherfucker be balking. That motherfucker, he getting ready to hit your ass with one of the motherfuckers' day's, though, boy. That motherfucker was a killer. I love Chris. You see that we're part of it, too. Like, he had this. That's what it was.

That's what it was. He had that. When he was in the gym, he was sitting there. And he stayed in the gym more than anybody. And that's what he, yeah. That's what that's the most normal. Man, man.

He was a killer, man. Shout out to him, man. He was, he was a phone. They don't talk about it, bro. Yeah, man. I do. Yeah. It's the name.

Mm. Mm. Lashes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Killer. Yeah.

Yeah, man. Make sure I get a tablet, man. You put one over that, you know, on the seat. Oh, all right, bet. We got two on. You know, that home. Yeah, nigg. I'm saying you got it.

No, they're gonna tell them that shit up. That might be the test. You got a commercial. These are five money back. Yeah. Well, I got this. Mother fucking chew it on that, man. Gold Twitter.

It still work. It's still, come home. I said, I need to do the attention. Screen black, but every now and then, it's probably saying, Did we win, man? Didn't we win? Oh, shit. You turned it off?

No, hit the little button on the side. Oh, man. Oh, there, there it go. Now, you know what? I ain't even know we were doing the damn thing right now. You didn't? No. Oh, we've been doing it.

We've been doing. That's how I go. I thought we were sitting up here fucking round. I'm going to start, man. I thought we're going to start, man. I thought we were sitting up there fucking a little. We didn't everybody have a good time at least. Long as everybody had fun.

What place? I thought we was going to be fucking around. up and fuck it around. I thought I was off and just topping it up. This motherfucker shit, I had to throw that out of it. I know I know what the shit has. He switched up everything. Yes, hello.

Well, I enjoyed my time in the NBA thoroughly. I've had some great teammates, and we played some great basketball. He was going to delete all the first four of us. Yeah. He's just going to go back to the whole athlete's script. He's going to play back with that white man. He still trying to get some money for me.

They had us down in the first half, when we came back. And we switched it up, got some open shots, and got the ball moved around, and got my teammates involved. Back to you, Stu. Yeah, let's go, buddy. Cut.

Right. I'm telling you, these motherfuckers, I'm telling you, man. Those all kinds of bitches in the heart. I was professional there. Oh, shit, man. This ain't fans, too. Man, this is a bad. I love this shit.

It's like Samsung. Man, my boys told me, man, you got to come on this motherfuck at 80 plus. But I was like, this is the best one ever. You've been on that better than this, man. That's like, you know. You're like, great, bro.

Yeah, I'm really, I'm really able to, like, I'm, for real, right? I ain't no motherfucking goddamn motherfucker bullshutter either. I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you the goddamn, like, I ain't never been able to do like I'm doing right here like this, right here.

You know, and that's what I always, and won't be able to do it. You know, I mean, I like to be my motherfucker's self and smoke my motherfucking goddamn good. You deserve it. Dope, gunjo, whatever I call. I'm old school-ass nigger. And so, yeah, yeah.

And I'm able to talk my shit. You get the best out of me, you know, like this out here because I'm comfortable. I'm so comfortable with you niggas, man. I swear to you all, man. Yeah. Hey, that's what you wanted me. You brought 40.

All right up your home. This feels like home for some people. Oh, my God, yeah. My youngest boy, my nephew. That's my grandson. That's my grandson. That's my nephew uncle. This is my uncle nephew.

They grew up down the street from me right here. This is my pocket driver. That's what it is. That's what I'm talking about. Yes, sir. All I want to know, though. Big, win, way, that's right. The game was tonight.

What do you mean the game already happy? I got two tickets to tonight. Oh my goodness, this is crazy. This is another game. Oh, shit. Burning, man, look, I don't have no shoes, man. Give me what you got. Let me hold some till we get back to San Antonio.

Just till we get back to San Antonio. You know how fucking NBA yet? You got $13 million. He didn't give me a motherfucker, man. Yeah, I don't know. She said, oh, that's a little bit. Come on, man. I got a big bitch dead left.

You know she got, she got half, brother. You got a damn right. Come on, third. Out of tour. Come on. Yes. Just me. NBA gentlemen, man.

They can't erase when we work. Flip. Why do you want to play bunch of books? Some crazy hard card on your ass. Oh, shit. No, you're mad how to buy. Oh, boy, you're a motherfucker. Oh, my goodness.

But I love this shit, man. That shit, man. Oh, my goodness. That shit's hilarious. Oh, shit. Oh, my goodness, man. Oh, it's dope. Oh, my goodness, man.

Oh, that shit. That shit was crazy. Okay, now, that's a dope-ass question. You said in a little. You trade max up. You said, uh, Jordan was one of them motherfuckers. Like, man, fuck that. Can you said, but did you wear his shoes when you played?

Oh, no, no. What's, what kind of shoes that you say? No. Man, I'll fuck something. I don't play barefoot it. I ain't get a fuck. Bidgett. Bidgett me to run out of that bitch,

bad for the fuck. God damn, I don't get a fuck. I didn't give a fuck. I mean, I played when I was on some of a hoax. Man, we had converse when I... God, damn. I played when I was there on no matter

of Johnson converses. I saw it out as in them. Patrick Ewins and shit. Yeah, I know. I never played them big old, motherfucker. You didn't play as some two of them. But I'm trying to tell you, now, Listen, though.

Well, I'm gonna tell you motherfuckers are secret now. That's why all these motherfuckers be having these foot injuries and this motherfucking goddamn ankle injuries. Because these motherfuckers playing these motherfucker tennis shoes like this. A short low-man. You know, yeah, man. You gotta have some shit over your ankle, man. Right.

You motherfucking young boys better stop this dumb shit. Stop trying to be cute. Right. That's some cute shit. That's all it is. That's some cute. Y'all, y'all, man, come up your motherfuckers. Man, and when you're, when you're, when you're, when you're, when you're, when you're,

When you shit turnover, it ain't turnover as bad now, because you gotta have protection. Put that goddamn leather on there. They ain't turned over in them version. No, God damn, man. Hey, man, hey, one of you motherfuckers shoe companies. One of these goddamn shoe companies, I'm gonna tell you motherfuckers something.

I won't invent a goddamn hot top for these motherfuckers. Yeah, I want to bring a goddamn high top tennis shoe back. They're gonna steal that. They're gonna steal it. All right, if you do, we're gonna sue you. Cam, get their numbers. Yeah. Cam, get them.

Cam got every, Cam got to get every number. Yeah, that's my mother that. That nigg got a number of everything. No, that's what that one. Cam, do me in favor. Next week, just pick a random time. Call this nigga Vernon me like, Yeah, we win, burn.

Hang up. Just hang up. That's all I want. I don't get a fuck when you do it. He's doing it from now. Oh, Lord. All these niggins, that's what I'm gonna get. That's what I'm gonna get.

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God damn it, right. This shit for real. Coming out. Look at a little niggas. Don't get the big one. You know, it's a little big on Max, but it's gonna get one of the fitted ones like you young niggas like the dude.

You know, yeah, we're gonna get them all, whatever you want, we're gonna be able to get it. You know, the popular conversation in the sports world is rings or the money? Shit, the money. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. With money on, that would it. That's hard web, man. That's shit ain't gonna do nothing for you, man. Money, do something for you. By you, right? Get the money, man.

Yeah, yeah. You do take that motherfuck ring. Mm-hmm. Money. But, I mean, I was blessed, man. Be able to win two of the motherfuckers. Come on, man. Oh, man.

Yeah. There is. Yeah. Got two still. But still, though, and damn, I get two of the motherfuckers back, and the motherfucker gave me 10 million dollars, I gave the motherfuckers back. Shit.

You're motherfucking right, knuck, you're motherfuckers. I want to tuck that motherfucker 26 million. I mean, uh, 23 million. Oh, my motherfucking goddamn, uh, 13. I don't, uh, huh. Yeah, he's in the ring back now. Oh, you won't? No, y'all have this, motherfucker.

Put the motherfucker where he won't. Put them out. I mean, I mean, I'm just real-ass nigger, man. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I understand these kids. We want to get these rings, man. And I understand it. But so, but, and you got to understand. But see, I, er, it was so much different than now.

These motherfuckers make so much motherfucking money. Motherfuck's making $62 million a year, man. So, man, God damn it. Yeah, now, yeah, I want some goddamn hardware now. Right. You know, I want hardware now. Now after you got, yeah. I'm getting $62 million a year.

Motherfucker, yeah, I don't care about the money. I got that shit, that shit already secured. I got a generation. Time to go out here. So I'm good. Let me get this ring. So now, now I really, now I want to win the ring. Right.

Now you can take the big. When I played that, shit wasn't secured like that. We ain't had no bag secured like that. So shit, I was like, shit, I'm gonna get that goddamn bread. It's just different, you know. But I was blessed, like I keep saying. Hell yeah. I was blessed to be able to play with a bunch of motherfuckers in Houston

that we was able to win, you know, too, right now. I mean, that's just hard as hell to do. Oh my goodness, that's just hard as hell to do, my people. That's just hard as hell to do. That's just hard. I don't think people realize it not, too, because it's been the same team going for so long. It started to look easy because they're going,

but they've beaten a bunch of other motherfuckers. No, not for real. Trying their best, spending money and everything. Coming out of college, shooting, three-year-game, shooting, hell, yeah. Yeah, no, that's just. What kind of advice are you giving the young players that's coming up as a veteran? Like, when the young guys come to get. When I tell the young players, my boys, people telling me, man,

don't even say that, man, don't tell the players that shit, man. You find the motherfucker talking the most shit. And you walk up there, you slap the fuck out of it. Wherever you can hear the best. No, see, my thing, it ain't even that. That shit, like, my shit, would I be, say, I ain't even say this shit. But I'm going to say I'm going to be in real,

shut up. Even if they're on your team, slap his ass to it. See, what I tell the motherfuckers, When I realized what I really be wanting to tell a motherfucker And my man be telling me like Cam and then my people Then be telling me, man, don't say that shit, man That's just awful man

What you want to tell? I'd be like, man, why do you want to be like this motherfucker? You want to tell them the truth, you know, 2% making it every year I say what shit, okay man I'd be like, I'd be telling them before we'd be going I'd be like, man I'm telling them motherfuckers man And now one of you motherfuckers come

make it. How about that, that's what I'm going to tell you. That's what I'm just going to be $1,000. I'm going to be $1,000. I ain't one of you, motherfuckerska. I ain't know what I mean? I'm just going to keep it one clean. Right.

You know what I mean? I'm just going to keep it clean. I'm going to keep it clean. I'm going to be 1,000. And they always say that shit, man. So you don't believe in me, burn. No, I just be kidding with my boys. But now, I believe.

But you got to understand, though, man. though, man. Y'all gotta, I'm just, I mean. That's real, though. I mean, it's being realistic. Like, like, like, it's 2% make it every motherfucking year. So, man, you know how many motherfuckers met trying to do this shit, man? So, man, that shit is so fucking hard to do. And you got to be knowing somebody or you got to be that nigger.

You got to, man, it's hard a motherfucker, man. If you don't, I mean, it's hard, man. I mean, shit, boy. I mean, and unfortunately, when I, and I had some people I knew, you know, a white man, you know, who, you know, took me and grew me when I was in Gainesville and it helped me a white man named Bobbin, you know, a big alumni white boy, you know, used to build all the motherfuckering got their apartment around Gainesville. And he was a big alumni in Gainesville. So, in Florida, he groomed me and showed me a lot of shit and humbled me a little bit. And, you know, he ain't hummed,

I won't slap the shit out you. But he, humble enough. He hummed. He hummed me. Well, you know, goddamn, well, you know, I know how to, you know, interact. I know how to switch up from being a hood nigger to being like a corporate nigger.

Right. And I got talk when I need to talk, like I got some goddamn sense. And so, but, yeah, but, yeah. Man, we can talk this shit all night. I know New Face brought some shit. We got to get you to sign some shit for our Black History Museum. Keep telling them upcoming kids there, too.

Because if a motherfucker telling you that you're not going to make it. But you really got a half out. If that hurt your feeling, then you weren't going to make it nowhere. I want to clean that up, though, too. But to the bulk of that story, though, No, not meaning that you, it's not your ain't, but just have something to fall back or don't make that your 100% thing that, don't make that your 100% thing that you're going, yeah, because if you don't, you got to like get your goddamn degree and pursue that motherfucker, you know, because a lot of motherfuckers, like, get a damn degree and they just don't even pursue this shit. I'm like, what the fuck, you got to go to school all the goddamn years for a motherfucker? You said, this is some dumb-ass shit.

Now, this is some dumb-ass shit. So I might be talking some of you motherfuckers in here, too. I might be talking some of you motherfuckers here too. Go, God, damn, that's some dumb-ass shit. How do you do that? No, I ain't graduate. I just, I think I need 13. That is made you need one more Celeste.

You good? That's all, yeah, yeah. But I'm too over there, shit. I ain't going back. Shit. They need to go ahead and get you one. Nah, man. Yeah, this is gone to make an honorary shit, man.

All that shit I've done in Florida. Right. I got you some, too. You know, we got gifts. Oh, man, I appreciate it, baby. You know what? Appreciate you, brother. Must love, man.

I had to call Kim to get your sass. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate. I mean, man. I got it. I got it. This is here. You had to call, Camp. I get this shirt on that deal with winning shirt.

I want to say one thing. Hold up, man. DC, man. My condolence go out to your family, man. Amen, man. I just want to say that. And man, stay prayed up. My people.

Love you, baby. All right. I wish you was here, nigger. I know we were born. Really, really, wow. I love you, boy. He out there promoting that. Yeah.

No doubt, no doubt. Celebrity Squares, make sure you tune in. No doubt. No doubt. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. All right.

I got to get you to sign this ball from them. We performed a couple of weeks ago in Indiana at the GameBridge Fieldhouse. They made us these dope-ass basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's dope as fuck. That's dope as fuck. We're keeping it right here in our Black History Museum. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You got some one-of-one authentic Slink Johnson and stepdaddy shoes. Nobody got them shits. That motherfucker got them ships. They ain't no motherfuckers' them shoes, them ships. You motherfuckold got them, motherfuckin' boats. You got some big ass feet. You don't let them know where they can find you at.

IG, Bernie Maxwell. Y'all know. I guess my man said it's Burnedong. Like swell, but you see my goddamn basketball pitcher, you know it's me, goddamn. Burn Maxwell 11. What else I got? Twitter.

Burn Maxwell 11. What else I got? I don't know nothing on TikTok. I got a TikTok account. I don't know. God damn Google it. All right, but that's it. Hey, that's all I got me. Hey, man, 85 South Show, Bernie Maxwell.

Let's go. Flex it. Five, three seconds. You're just shooting right. Hell, yeah. We're going to get a pick. Come on, brother. That's much love.

Hell love. Pleasure, I'm pleasure. I'm pleasure. Oh, wait. Come on, go, man. Come on, yeah. I got it. Let's get a pick.

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