The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - WIZ KHALIFA in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: April 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:03:06 I'm higher than a high school. Higher than a high school. I'm higher than a high school. Higher than a high school. Yeah. We got the wins. Um, yeah. Getting high, rolling up.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Say what? Sipping, ooh, slowing up. Hey. Shout it rap. Shout it rad, she powing up. Look, so I skate to her, I'm rolling up. Come on. Yeah, I put her 3-5 in that kush dog.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah, I got that pistol in the bush dog. Yeah. I'm on the block with my partners, and I ain't stuck in the end because all of my niggas robbers. So look. I'm the freshies in the building. Building.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Oh, we're weird, so you know we're fin' and kill it. Kill it. Tell ya went on the bee getting slow, dog Go head wigs and let them know, dog. Yeah, it is. I'm the one that smoke on the plane. I'm the one that roll in the plane. I'm the one that got the cush,
Starting point is 00:04:10 and they got my own name. I'm the one that put on the strains. I'm the one that's riding eight. Old school, you know me. Yeah, you know I'm doing my thing. Down here in the ATL, owners know they know the smell, and I got some motor bell.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah, I don't throw it. Who is about the bitch I never had? I'm smoking with her leave her out this turkey bag. Ooh. I might just make a turkey sandwich. Them bids just being like me last year, next year they cannot stand there. Oh. I'm like, a bitch with no legs.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I don't want to talk if she don't smoke and get money and get goody. Uh-huh. They're my requirements. I'm on some flyer shit. And when I get house, off of this, I might be higher, bitch. We got the whiz in the building you know it. I hear this blunt, now I can feel my nails growing.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Come on. This shit is crazy. We got the whiz in this bitch. We smoking crazy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're getting high. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Hey, if you smoke the blood, it ain't even don't need to try. And the turkey bag. There ain't no turkey in it. It got a bunch of wood. We, and we gonna puss and give it. Come, she's back again. We've got whiz in this beat.
Starting point is 00:05:32 We got the J-O-Wing. We playin' Pippin, Frank. Mr. Sir, welcome back to the 85th, tell you. Yes and B. Yes, indeed. No liquor today, all weed. He said he like his bitch with no legs. I said I'm like a bitch with no legs.
Starting point is 00:05:51 What I mean? I said that they can't stay. Like a bitch with no legs. Like a bitch with no legs. Like a bitch with no leg. Yeah. I'm gonna do like that. What about that?
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yeah, yeah. You never caught up. You got to run back. Yeah, I said they can't stand me. Like a bitch with no leg. Okay, then. Yeah, so I'm telling that shit to go over your head. It did.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Go over your shape up, nays. Yeah. We got a very high guest with us today. Don't go talk, OG. It's very high up on the list. Mm-hmm. You got higher priority. He used to sell weed.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Uh-huh. He's got his own weed. He's got his own weed. Man, this man that sold hundreds of millions of records at this point. It's one of the biggest songs in song history. Talk yo talk. They got so many views on YouTube. They stop counting.
Starting point is 00:06:41 They just put a little sign up there when you click on the video. Now you know this nigga all the way from Pittsburgh. On lane. Pulling up black and yellow. Talk yo talk. The only nigga in first class. Huh? The nigga smoked weed.
Starting point is 00:06:55 That's named after him. He smokes himself. He smokes himself! Hey, man. One of the coldest niggins to come up out this generation. Ooh, nigger. None other than Mr. Khalifa man himself, whiz Khalifa. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Oh, hey man. Welcome to the trap. Thank y'all. Thank y'all. Most definitely, man. First of all, how you been? I've been real good, bro. Just been kicking it down here, finishing up this album and shit.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Hold up, speaking of kicking it. Yeah. You do some motherfucking Kung Fu, Muay Thai type shit now, right? Yeah, you're whipping ass, man. I do be in the gym. I'm in front of that shit. Yeah, you're whipping ass. You on one of them videos looking like Dowseen from Street Fighter.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I was like, God, that this nigga is about the yoga flame. Like, what made you want to get into that? Like, literally, I just started doing our shit. And then I, like, got hooked on it, bro. Like, I never stopped going back. I went in there one day and never stopped going back. That's crazy. Getting aggression off, that's all.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And then started wanting to get contact. That's crazy. For real. I mean, like, it's different. Like, some niggas, they do it just for sport to look good and shit like that, but I really started learning that shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:08 And there's a difference between, like, going, you know, there's levels to us. So which one you in? You in Taekwondo or you in, what you doing? I do all that shit. It's mixed martial arts. MMA is the stands for mixed martial arts. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:19 So I do taekwondo. Right. I do kickboxing in a moitai. right uh there's wrestling and jiu-jitsu and then there's normal boxing which one did you take to of all the styles which one would you say i'm the best at at moitai in taquine what's the difference in taquoos and knees yeah moitai's elbows knees um yeah it's like but if you don't use them properly you'll hurt these motherfuckers nah these don't hurt these gonna hurt somebody else no i'm saying if you don't use them properly like you'll hurt yourself that's what you do like at the
Starting point is 00:08:51 At the beginning, you hit them, like, pause, you hit yourself so much, you don't even feel that shit after a while. So, after a minute, like, it's basically, like, the other person feels it more than you feel it. Because it's pressure and the impact of how you hit them. A motherfucker's like, oh, that shit don't hurt. Like, how the nigga bow you?
Starting point is 00:09:11 No, that's not. Even like the heavy bag, like, when you first go in there and you're hitting that shit, it's going to hurt. Like, your shins are going to be red. Right. Your, you know what I mean? Your elbows going to be red. They're going to, you're going to pill some skin off and all of that.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But after a while, you don't even feel that shit. I'm going to hit you on it. Yeah, that's what I'm going to come out and hit you on a lead. Yeah, they was on your head about your feet, though. Yeah, yeah. I saw you get back in the company. Like, hold on, goddamn. Y'all taking this shit too far.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Bro, thank you, thank you, girl. I wasn't even paying attention to that shit either. I'm in the studio, and I'm trying to show them, like, me working on the studio, and they zoomed in on my foot. And I was like, oh, yeah, they're right. Yeah, that shit was, yeah, they're right. And I don't, let me ask you this, like, because it's, I don't know if this is a perception that you got,
Starting point is 00:09:59 but they, you know, people make it seem like whiz can't take a joke. What do you think that come from? It comes from me defending myself on the internet. Like, they used to celebrities, like, not saying shit. They're like, oh, you don't got time for that, or you shouldn't stoop down to people's level. But the thing about the internet these days is the perception is way stronger than it was back in the day.
Starting point is 00:10:21 So if you allow people to say things, then that's what people are going to think. And I got fans. You know what I mean? My fans, they love me. So if they're not going to be the ones that, they can't get on the internet every day and say, no, whiz is this, whiz is that.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I'm going to defend myself. And I'm going to say something so they could be like, yeah, exactly. While y'all talking shit on my man, he's coming back saying something, you know what I mean, in return. At least that. Like, it deserves that.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Because there's no balance. Like if a nigga be like, yo, whiz fell off, blah, blah, blah, this and the other thing, then people start believing it. But if I'm on the internet every day with music, videos, I'm in your face, I'm still cracking jokes, no matter how people talk shit, if I want to respond to somebody who I don't necessarily agree with them talking shit, like certain people,
Starting point is 00:11:14 it's cool, you know what I mean? I really don't mind if I'm able to like defend myself and go back. You know what I mean? But if it's like one-sided, then you're going to get a certain reaction. It just is what it is. Like, that's how it is in the world.
Starting point is 00:11:28 But literally, I just feel like it should be even. Yeah, yeah. And I don't think any artist should be held back from expressing how they feel. Like, even if they are frustrated at sometimes, because a good artist takes that frustration and they make it, you know what I'm saying, into something. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So while I'm letting you know that I'm frustrated, believe that I'm gonna spin it into something. And you're gonna keep seeing me as well. So like, I don't really let that shit get to me. I don't let it bother me, because anybody who knows me personally knows that I can take a joke. I got a great sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's just, who's joking? You know what I mean? That's really what it boils. That's what it really boils down to. Like, who's joking, like, you know what I mean? But, like, it's all good. Like, I do it for my fans, and I do it for, like, people who, you know, could, who could get the
Starting point is 00:12:21 perception fucked up by me being quiet. Like, this, it's not a quiet time. It's a loud time. Like, a niggas gonna be loud about that. I'm gonna be loud about my side as well. And we'll just be even. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Oh, yeah. Pop your shit, nigga, you ain't doing nothing wrong. No, hell no. I mean, hopefully more artists get inspired to like, just go off the cuff and just say how they feel. Like, regardless of what people feel about it, regardless of what the criticism is gonna be, because you still gonna see me.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Like, you crank the narrative. You cranked the narrative. Yeah, yeah. Why would I let some trolls tell a story for me like you know what I mean but isn't that dangerous for artists who haven't had the level of success that you had because you say the wrong thing on the internet now it's over with so I think I think for artists with more success it's more dangerous because you have more of a legacy to protect or you have more expectations like for you so like more people not really more
Starting point is 00:13:12 to lose because I think any of the real a smart artist knows what to you know put their neck how far to put their neck out there. Pause, like, you don't want to give too much ammo, you know what I mean? So, like, when you're doing that shit, you know what's going to come with it. Why are you laughing? Because I said, pause. No, because you caught it right at the right time. Yeah, niggins was about to be like, whoa, whiz.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yeah, no, no, I'm cool. Wow. I'm cool. I already know, I already know, bro. Yeah, yeah, I already know. You're right, though. But, like, a real artist knows what, what's going to happen. after they say those things or whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:51 If you're ready for it and you're ready to, you know what I mean, keep defending yourself, it's like, I think a lot of people just got it twisted to where you have to be this calm version of yourself to be successful, and that doesn't really get shit done. Like, you have to be proud, you have to be loud, you have to take risk, you have to do things that are uncomfortable. So, you know, the more successful that you are,
Starting point is 00:14:16 the more people is going to be in your comments telling you, telling you what you should and shouldn't do. And that kind of could fuck with your belief in yourself. It could fuck with your confidence in yourself. But you have to just stand up every day and be like, look, y'all motherfuckers follow me. So if I'm frustrated today, and if you ruin my day and I figure I want to ruin your day too,
Starting point is 00:14:35 like it is what it is, nigger. Like, you shouldn't be poking me. And just listen to the music and enjoy it and pick a side. Pick what side you want to be on. You want to be cool with a nigger or you want to troll the nigger. And this is what happens to trolls, and this is what happens to niggers who are cool with you.
Starting point is 00:14:48 cool with me. Every artist deserves that, in my opinion. He comes from a space, too, because, you know, like, you never seen him interact like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, so when you do be calm and you be chilling, and then you allow the people to paint the narrative, like, you said, people just start believing. You're like, let me, let me, hey, first of all. You start becoming
Starting point is 00:15:08 a niggas that you can play with. Right. And it's not, it's not that. It's not because I'm cool and I smile and I dress how I want to, that you're just going to play with me. And no, hell no. It's never been like that. And I'm not the dude who's gonna get tough or like show you why you ain't gotta play with me because that's already been done.
Starting point is 00:15:25 It's just, no, I'm gonna let you know how to treat me. You know what I'm saying? Like I've been telling y'all that. You must have forgot, it's been 10 years, it's cool, I'll remind you. You're a Mongol. Yeah, for sure. I didn't get here by being quiet, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Like, I didn't hear about being quiet. I didn't, like, it's never been my thing. Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing. A lot of them, when you check them, they'd be like, oh, big bro, you know. That'd be nine years old, too. No, they'd be grown-ass men who need to get checked. And when you do it, they want to call you big bro,
Starting point is 00:15:55 and they want to say less work and all of that. Yeah, so that's all I need you to do, bro. You find out that the nigga can talk shit from a computer that you still got to get off the telephone to use and you'd be mad at yourself, like, at least me, when I've had experiences where, you know, I didn't court people that didn't say a wild shit. And it's be like, man, I was really sitting in my house mad at a nigga
Starting point is 00:16:15 who's sitting in somebody else household. not to get put out. Yeah, but the internet is powerful. So if somebody sees somebody getting a reaction from what they say about you, then they'll copy that. And then now you got a bunch of niggas talking about you just because somebody else got popular. And that's not cool, bro. Like, that's lame as hell.
Starting point is 00:16:37 They see somebody else got 30,000 clicks or 300,000 clicks by mentioning when you got on or when you're doing. So they wouldn't even necessarily do it. do it. It's just a trend. They're like, oh, I want to be as popular as this person. So let me talk about this nigga, too. Like, come on, man. Yeah, but I mean, you know, I'm glad that you cleared that up. I love blocking. I love blocking. I'm like, you know what? I'd rather delete everybody out of my life who don't fuck with me. I'm going to keep everybody in foot me, sir.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And when I block them, guess what they do? They DM me from another account. They're like, why did you block me, big bro? And I'd be like, enjoy being blocked. Yeah, for sure. You didn't keep like that. You can say that negative on my shit. I must have to do it.
Starting point is 00:17:17 if you just say some shit on light. Like, if I just disagree, I'm block here. Not for sure. I'm with that, too. You want to hear this shit. I'm with that because you're in control of your page. So it's like, why would you want to go on your page and see shit that you don't want to see?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Right. Block a nigga. Block a lot. I want to why people follow him. He ain't that funny. Well, since you up on the hill, block your bitch ass. You ain't never got to see me again.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I'm done. That fuck their dad. They're so bad. They be hurt. They stopped making excuses. Damn. You got money. What you worry about,
Starting point is 00:17:46 little old me for I'm not you're blocked I always click on their page before I block me because then I can I can compare what they said to how they living and I can't do it oh it makes sense I did that I did that two times they never have good pictures
Starting point is 00:18:01 I went in on and I said damn I just went I said you have to notice if you go on like they're looking like they be orange and shit they're fucking there's like a lot of grass behind them and shit they're like there's a lot of 20s it was it was a dude that was so ugly, had Android pictures.
Starting point is 00:18:19 He and he had real glass. He had goggles. And I'm like, niggas, you don't even know who you even looking at anyway. You think I'm somebody else. Stupid aback. Yeah, man. Get the motherfuckers out of there, man.
Starting point is 00:18:35 They don't need no promotion. You got to stay positive, man. You've been doing great thus far any fucking way. Yeah, I think it's cool. We're just in a different age where the internet is hell powerful, bro. It's weird. It is weird.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But it is weird. But it's cool. You know what I mean? We're in control of this shit. It's marketing. The real people that understand that it's marketing, you understand. But the other people that make it seem like, it's their lifestyle. Those are the ones you'd be like, ah, ah.
Starting point is 00:19:03 But it is a lifestyle, though. I mean, for certain people, like I say, man, the Etchersketch was an iPad. We're just living in the time now with the internet is the new currency. The attention that you get from the internet, the followers, people care more about a follower. People care more about a following than they do about really having a following. As long as I look at my phone and see millions of people, it don't matter that I go outside and don't nobody come up and say nothing to me. Because when I look at my phone, it's my reality.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And we're moving towards that. It's going to get to a point where you ain't got to go outside no more. No, you can still sit down and stay and tell the nigga down and shit. In real life. Because if the internet and all that shit was the leak, you're going to collapse. Yeah, of course. What was that show you said you were going to do? Oh, the show I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:19:45 What was the name of it? Say that shit now. Can everybody who say something in the comment, find out where they be in, where they work at, and be like, hey, this you? Say that shit now. Say that shit now. Man, say that shit now.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I was like, excuse me, can you get a little timmy? Yeah. It's not. I'm going to bring a little bit of chat downstairs. That's hard. He said some grown-man shit online. Say that shit now. Just say.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Definitely are going to sue you. You're getting sued, man. Without question, you do that. That shit is not about to face that. We have to hire a whole gig squad to trace him down. Like Neve and them did with, what was that? Talking about the catfish. That shit ain't hard.
Starting point is 00:20:28 They were wrong with these, niggins. Your IP address, anybody can find that. You did this shit before. That nigga, fly got the computer set up like Batman. I heard of episode three, nigger. I heard what you said, motherfucker. Listen, he bullshit. I'm on episode three.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I'm going to say. We need to just start filming and fuck the network. That's what we do. I'm on episode three already. Pulling up on niggas, bro. I'm on 10 people. I don't know. You're going to turn around and look at you in that auto zone if you pull up on him and shit.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Listen, I'm in a whole disguise and everything. They don't even know it me. That's fine. Say that shit now, man. That's fine. That's five. If you go up on a disguise and ask a nigga about you and he get to talk of shit, and fuck that thing out of him.
Starting point is 00:21:10 One of them was a nun. Stop playing. On everything I love. She on there trolling, fo? Man, on their trolling. Pulled up on it with the outfit. Hey, say that shit now. Let your sisters know what you be doing.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Sisters, come on. Say that shit now. This nigga that pulled up. You're evil, man. You evil. Oh, mother married. Man, you evil. You evil.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Sister Esther? You going down. You go down. Boo. Whiz, man. You said you've been doing this shit for over a decade, man. But I don't know if a lot of people know. know the back story.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Like, we were just talking earlier. You said, man, you used to be the weed man in school. Yeah, yep. So, like, did you always know that that was going to be your persona? Like, that that was going to be what you led with when you became an artist? Um, it's crazy because I just stood on, like, smoking weed everywhere I went. Like, even in the early days before that shit was, like, accepted. It was like, I had to smoke weed everywhere.
Starting point is 00:22:11 If I was in the club, I was in the student. I was in the car. It was like a well-known thing. This little niggins going to smoke weed. And so it wasn't never, you know, I never knew that was going to be the thing that caught on. But it was definitely one of the most things that I stood on ever. But I don't think it was until I met currency
Starting point is 00:22:35 that we were able to put it together and make it like this new world. Because at first, there was him who smoked a lot of weed. and rapped about it, like, kind of in his music. And then there was me who, like, smoked a ton of weed and rapped about it, like, kind of in my music. I might have had, like, two weed songs. I'd, like, mentioned it in the verses and shit like that. But I wasn't, you couldn't call me a weed rapper.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Like, you know what I mean? From Pittsburgh. And we all burned, like, real heavy in Pittsburgh. We smoke hell of weed. But it was when me and currency got together. And, you know, I'm buying ounces. He's buying ounces. And we made a whole mixtape, a whole sound.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Like, all of our bars was. basically about what we was doing every day and it just kind of turned into like this whole weed lifestyle like I don't know what it was about when we started doing you know our music together it was how fly was the first mix that we did together and it probably had to do a lot with social media too like at the time because we were like making videos and just putting all our slang on the internet and just you know what I mean involving all the fans like it just a lot of it was like fan interaction too and we would go different cities and shit like that link up with niggas and talk about packs and shit like that so it just became like you know what i mean the thing and and and it wasn't really on purpose it was really really super organic and it was just based off of the shit that we was doing every day and so after that kind of took off and literally concerts were starting to be like formed around that shit where niggas was just coming from everywhere to smoke weed and here to jam out that's when we knew like oh okay that This is, yeah, this is the fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Like, you know what I mean? Like, because niggas ain't smoking for everybody else is set. Like, you know what I mean? They're chilling. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we go to their set. The clouds, they're not existing. As soon as we get on stage, you can't fucking see nobody.
Starting point is 00:24:27 There's just fucking puffs in the air. So we're like, oh, okay, we're the weed rappers. Like, you know what I mean? We figured it out. That's crazy. Yeah. When did you realize? Like, oh, shit, it's happening.
Starting point is 00:24:39 My life is about to change. Um, when I went to jail, okay. Yeah, I got locked up in North Carolina, and I thought we were going to be in jail for a minute. Like, they had brought us the, like, clothes for the week, toothbrush, like. Oh, yeah, like, get comfortable. Yeah, yeah, yep. You changed that, my boy. Yeah, yep.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And, um. That's when it feel like jail. Yeah, when you ain't got too clothes in a moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. African slides. Yeah. Yeah. I give you, like, yeah, I'd have been to jail.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I know the slides they gave you them leather African slides. He's like, oh, I'm in here. They was like, you're one of us now. And I was like, man, I was thinking, like, my only fucking solution was to call somebody rich that I knew at the time. I was like, we got to call, like, Snoop or somebody to bail us out or whatever. But we ended up having, like, a lot of money under the bus for me to be able to bail out and bail all my niggins out and do the show the next day. So at that point, I was like, oh, we're really on. I'm like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:41 These niggas can't fuck with us. Like, I'm able to do what I got to do with, you know what I mean, my content and I got money too. You know what I mean? So I was like, I'm good. I know how to make whatever song when they put me in the building with whatever producer. Like, that's done. I got the fan base and I got bread. Like, I was like, we good.
Starting point is 00:26:02 But when did you realize that, he said when did you realize your life was about to change? When did you realize you had hit that next plateau that, like, you had stepped it up from where you were then? Like, what was that moment for you? I mean, that was really it, bro, because, like, I had made the news. Like, niggas was calling me. Niggas was trying to link with me. Niggas was trying to do everything. So I knew, like, this is...
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yeah, this is it. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, this is my time. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, everything was coming together. Like, at that point, Atlantic was talking about signing me, but I was... I mean, I was already getting money independent, so it was like I wasn't in no rush to really do... I was doing everything on my time.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And I was self-sufficient, and I had a lot of money. So I was like, yeah, I'm good. Like, you know what I mean? Like, bro, I see why you love this shit right here. I've been trying to say something for about 10 minutes. I told you, but I was just like, I don't even want to say shit. I told you, my nigga, that's why I know better. I don't hit it about three, four times.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I didn't smoke the whole joint. I told you who'd be good. That shit. He knew it when he got locked up. Yeah, because when you get locked up and thought you was great a ass to call somebody. And the nigga called somebody. And the nigga called. You got 50,000 under the bus.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Hold up. What made you think you was going to be there for a long time, though? Because I wasn't, I'm really like, when I'm doing shit, when I'm working, I'm not paying, not letting I'm not paying attention, but I'm not counting everything. I'm not doing that. I'm just hustling. So I have been hustling for so long. I wasn't really looking at that.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I was just worried about my fans. I was worried about what city. I was worried about what Jays I had on. I was worried about which hoodie I was going to wear. Like, I wasn't worried about that shit. So, like, when I got locked up, that's the moment that I realized, like, where I was actually at in the game.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I was like, nigga, we had a half a million under the bus and cash from merch. I said 50,000. I was way, way under being, gosh. 5,500 million cash. That's why the hell you was in there thought you was going to be in there for a long time. No, they took this much weed.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And they gave us three felonies, and my bail was $3 million. For this, yeah. They was trying to do us dirty, bro. They did us hell dirty. It locked 10 niggas up and gave us all $300,000 bail. So that's $3 million. I'm not leaving nobody in jail,
Starting point is 00:28:23 and I bailed everybody out. I was like Sugar Ray on motherfucking, uh, on Harlem Nights. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You see Harlem Nights? Yeah. You see Harlem Nights? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:34 What you need is right now into the sunset. Let me see, yeah, I bailed all my niggas out. That's what I'm trying to show him. They thought they had my young ass. They thought they had my young ass, bro. And then I recorded Taylor Gang, the song, Taylor, yeah, I recorded that on the bus the night afterwards. You knew you was the leader of the game? That's what I'm saying, nigger.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You're running out to jail with a line of niggins. You are a leader, sir. You are the leader of her. And then I don't nick is with you? Some of the most beautiful shit I ever seen. Because you, that had to be a crazy feeling. You imagine hearing, nigga, your bell three million. And you don't know y'all.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Boy, and you sitting in there, and you're the nigga that's just with the nigga. You're like, oh. Oh, I got to do. Oh. Did a nigga show up? And you're like, yeah, you've been bailed out. And then as you standing there, like, this nigga, Jesus. How'd you pull it off?
Starting point is 00:29:40 There ain't no way in the world. That's crazy. It ain't going to hit you till after the show that next night. He said they performed that next night. After that, you'd be like, nigga, lad. What a motherfucker? Out of them 10, which one was about the fault, man, don't you do? Ain't nobody fall.
Starting point is 00:29:59 But I'll say my producer, Jerm, I felt the, I felt the worst for him. Because he was the one who wasn't, like, cut like that. You know what I'm saying? Not even cut like that, but that's not a good. Yeah, that's not really. Yeah, that wasn't for him. He was just there, dog. He looked at me.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It was like, bro. He was like, bro, what the fuck, man? He was like, man. He was like, y'all could do this, bro. I can't do this, man. I'm like, you ain't going to have to do this, nigga. I'm getting everybody to fuck out of here, nigga. We ain't staying in here, nigga.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like, you're up and so. Yeah, he probably was going to cry like he got there 36 hours. My uncle won't have to count that money with his hands, bro. He had to count 100 large with his hands, bro. My uncle. For real? Yeah, yep. He had to count that shit with his fucking hands, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Real G. Yeah, yep. Go to the buck. What, ma'am. What are you talking about the fuck? My aunt went out of money bands with his hands. Yeah, I know that the fucking. That's out of it.
Starting point is 00:31:00 That's out of it. That's out of it. me, something of himself. God. How much you say he's neat? He ain't going to miss that. All the goddamn Count Nath did? You know he put tax on that shit, don't it?
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Starting point is 00:36:23 Listen to the Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast every Wednesday. effect podcast network. The I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. So when did you like, you know, like you said, you got one of the biggest songs in song history, literally. So like, what was the first one that you said that your first hit in your mind? People always look at the real first hit numbers wise, but what was your first hit to you? Yeah, to me, black and yellow, that was my first hit. It was intentional because, like I said at that time, I was like really feeling myself just off of everything that was doing. So everything that I did, I knew what I was doing.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So when I walked in a session with Atlantic, they could ask me to do this, this, or whatever. I was working with the producers I was working with Stargate at the time. And they're really dope producers. And they're good at pop records. They had never done a hip-hop record before. So my whole approach was just to not change what I was already doing on the mixtape side, but to show them that I'm able to cross over. So when I did it, my initial thought was like Snoot.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You know what I mean? When he first came out, when he was riding on the bike with the fro-out, and he stood on top of the liquor store and shit. I'm like, I have to make a song that's my snoop moment. And I was like, I got to rent my city. And yeah, I'm going to rap how to fuck I want to rap. And what I did learn in that session was how to put,
Starting point is 00:37:50 you know, how to structure a really good radio. record. And, you know, because I kind of just wrapped through the song and Stargate broke it down and they were like, this is the hook part. We're going to double this, blah, blah, blah, this and the other thing. So after we did that, I'm like, yeah, this is the song. Like, you know, I really want to run with this. And Atlantic gave me, like, the whole summer to record some more music. But really, I just used it to just, like, kind of set up my album. Like, I would record songs that I would finish later for the album. But I already knew I wanted to go black and yellow. So by the time it was time to, you know, sign the deal and then dropped the first single.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I knew black and yellow was it. I shot the video. I directed the video. I wrote the treatment for the video. It's in Pittsburgh. It starts out like how Snoop shit is, like with him in the house. And it has the scene with me on top of the dairy market, which is our store in our hood. But it's like, it's basically the same thing.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I'm like, let niggas know. Like, all right, I'm here. So that happened. And then the fucking Steelers went to the Super Bowl that year. So, like, just with all of this theme that I already had, you know, on the mixtape side, you know, that shit just made it go, like, on a mainstream level. Like, every time the niggas score in a touchdown,
Starting point is 00:39:03 they're playing my fucking song. So that shit helped out so much, and it was like, I don't, honestly, I don't even know why it caught on so well at radio. Like, because it's just a regional song. It's like, it's about Pittsburgh, and there's two colors that don't nobody even give a fuck about. But they do now. They do now.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, like. Like, bro, you can go to Dubai and they're singing that shit for no reason. Like, you know what I'm saying? But like it did. That's because they think you want to them. Your name, Wiz Khalifa. Yeah, it did really, really, really well.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Black yellow. Yes, come on. It did great at radio. Like, niggas was rapping, a little Wayne wrapped over the instrumental. Like, the fucking Lakers remixed it for Perp and Yellow. So that was a big fucking song. Like, I was like, yeah, we out of here. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:50 So that was, that was. To me, that's the signature moment from ground to finish. And it went number one. So, like, boom, like, yeah. You see that in the show. That's the major one. Man, you got to put two more colors together. I got to.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Shit, I want to come. Red and back. Red and back. Maybe we don't go to the Super Bowl and win. Nah. We just signed Kurt Cugger for a hundred and a damn million. Yeah, yeah, no, it's over. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:40:21 It's over with it. Yeah. I hate to be the bad bad. Yeah, that's one of the bad bad news. It's not going up, man. You should have never died. Yeah, no, for real. He don't sign nobody black no more.
Starting point is 00:40:32 That's an anthem right there. Like, so when you saw the Pittsburgh, were you a Pittsburgh still a fan? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, going on. Like, how did that feel to have your team, your home team, like, had a, their theme song in your song? Yeah, it was cool. It was cool.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And for real, for us just more about the hometown. Like, anybody from Pittsburgh got real, real hometown pride. So just them colors, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, just being from the Berg, like, no real rapper being able to represent Pittsburgh on that level. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, distillers is cool. We love the Steelers, but we always had distillers. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:12 So it's like, as a kid, the Penguins, and we got the Pirates. They fucking with it too. Yeah. All the team black and yellow. But it's like, as a kid, you're not like saying they're like, man, I wish that they didn't play. my song in the stadium, you know what I'm saying? But it's more like being on that level of the Steelers and
Starting point is 00:41:28 being from Pittsburgh. Like the same people who watch the Steelers look at my music the same way. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that shit was, that shit was cool as fuck. You could have made a song about Polanski brothers, but you did. Or anything, you know what I mean? You could be, being the person that come from your
Starting point is 00:41:44 city that was the first rapper, that's a lot of pressure. Like, speak to that, like, you're really the first person to go nationwide. Yeah. And I think that My personal opinion is most cities in America where you don't know their history is because, at least us, black people, it's because they didn't have a rapper go nationwide to narrate their stories. So you're the person that did that for Pittsburgh. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:04 It's still difficult because I love my city and it's so much variety there. I only represent, you know, one thing that can come from Pittsburgh. There's so much other shit going on and we enjoy so much other music and parts of, of just the whole experience of being there, but it's like making an identity and having that be the Pittsburgh sound, I still feel like it hasn't even really happened because I don't even, I define what people know about Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:42:37 like on a mainstream level, but there's so much more to Pittsburgh that hasn't been in. Whether ain't it like underground artists that you came up listening to like locally from your area? Yeah, hell yeah, there's a lot of artists. Just people that I came up with like, We were all in the studio together. There was the government, there was heavy hustle.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Like, a lot of them still, that I still do records with. And there's a lot of younger niggas, like Wapo, he passed. Yeah, Hardo. Yeah, Hardo's hard as hell, it's crazy. That nigga, dope. Teth, he passed. There's a lot of other niggas, and there's niggas who's still alive who are doing their thing too.
Starting point is 00:43:15 But it's like, there's just a lot of different sounds. And it has to do with, not necessarily, necessarily getting out of Pittsburgh and doing shit, but applying that same shit other places. And I was one who wasn't scared to, like, go everywhere, like go to Toronto, go to New Orleans, go to Atlanta, go to L.A., go to New York. And that's why more people are, and Mac Miller, too.
Starting point is 00:43:39 You know what I'm saying? We can't forget about it. We can't forget about Mac. And he was able to do something totally different for Pittsburgh that, you know what I'm saying? But on the same level as well and be legendary. So it's, um, it came on while and now and turned that bitch. Yeah, Mac is hard, bro. And he's like a great representation of what Pittsburgh is, too.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Even being a white artist, even, you know, talking about the things that he talks about, what he talks about is real Pittsburgh shit as well. Like, you know what I mean? So I feel like the next big artist or producers or writers who come out of the burg are just going to continue to elevate it and just peel back the layers of what we actually are. the first one. All the way. What was the first city
Starting point is 00:44:21 to embrace you outside of your city? What would you say was the first city that you went to you was like, I'm locked in here. Damn.
Starting point is 00:44:29 She going to go went to school for this shit. He's low. What's that? Yeah, no, no. I'm just trying to make sure I give the right people the right credit
Starting point is 00:44:37 because there's like a hood level and then there's a college level too. Because like on a college level it's more like Indianapolis and like Kentucky and, like, shit like that. But on the hood level, it was, like, Detroit, Chicago, uh, DMV area, the Bay area, like, shit like that.
Starting point is 00:44:59 If you had that show where you were, like, a place you never thought you would fucking be doing a show with? Um, let me think. I think, like, more than foreign countries where they don't speak English and shit like that, or they speak no English at all. And, like, Korea, like, that one tricked me to fuck out, Yeah, being in Korea is wild, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Because they speak zero English, so they're not even trying to speak English over there. So it's like, you got to do an hour set of, like, I'm saying nigger and all that shit. They are too. Yeah, hell yeah. They are too. They don't even know, niggas.
Starting point is 00:45:34 That's the button. Black, yellow niggas. Yeah. Black, yellow niggas. They're going to get that shit out with my head. Watch this shit. You remember? They know that shit, and they know Young Wilder Friend.
Starting point is 00:46:05 They sing that shit in karaoke and fuck it all up. Son to get done Sonal to be free Sonal they're going Yeah they're going to be They fucking that all of
Starting point is 00:46:23 They fucking all the words You know they fucking that up Son up the moon nights Sunnats go free Oh man So my nose They're fucking that all up And shit, black and yellow nika.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Black and yellow nigger. Yeah. Yeah. Back a bitch. Take a picture. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Man. I got a ass. Dang. You know weed over there. Juicy J, man. Like, Juicy's already was a legend. Like, what made you tap in with Juicy Jay? What did he tap in with you?
Starting point is 00:47:04 No, see. So I think it was like both ways. both ways, but definitely, for sure, like, just on my way up, I always, like, acknowledge the niggas who got fucked with heavy. Like, if I played your music in my car, like, you know what I mean? Like, I would hit you up on Twitter and be like, what's up, nigga, like, you know what I mean? So I listen to Hell of 36 Mafia growing up, and Juicy was just starting to do his thing again,
Starting point is 00:47:28 like, on the internet. I see he was making videos on World Star and all of that shit, and he had just did the mixtape with Lex Lugar, I think. It was before Blue Dream and League, but he had just done that mixtape. And I was on the road, and I hit that nigga up. I'm like, yo, we fuck with your music, heavy, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 And he was like, shit, I'm gonna come fuck with y'n'nig was on tour, man, and just, like, lived on the tour bus for like a week and a half, and we made music, and he just chilled with us, and he kind of just seen our vibe and was like, y'all cool as hell. Like, we listen to old school music and smoke weed, and, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:48:04 get fucked up and party. He was like, man, y'all like the young version of us, bro. Like, so he kind of just, we just became friends, just chilling on the road. And then by the end of that tour, he lived out in L.A. already. And then that's when I said I went out there and I met Snoop and I moved out to L.A. So instantly when I lived out in L.A., Snoop was my dog and Juicy was my homie. So we just started making music. I was already finishing up Cabot Fever right before I moved out there.
Starting point is 00:48:33 so he was like a real important part of you know finishing up cabinet fever and even being a part of that sound because niggas was hella excited that we were doing music together and him and lex louver were already working together so that mixtape was like yeah it just all it just all made fucking sense like you know what i mean so when we did that that shit happened and then he was out in l.a like working real hard he was with uh dr luke he was doing shit with ketchel he was doing shit with katy perry but it all had them like tied together and come together. So by the time I moved out there and we was all fucking with each other,
Starting point is 00:49:09 that's when the Miley song happened. And that's when like everything just started to become more like, you know, a mainstream thing. And people were seeing us like, okay, whiz and juicy, like you know what I mean? And then that's when, you know, he had his like reed, kind of like a reverb.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Yeah, yeah. He made bands to make her dance, nigga, and then it was fucking over, nigga. Yeah, exactly. Hell, yeah. It was a rap after that. Is there a artist that you're going work with? Like, he's like, on your fucking face. I got to see it.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah, it's more, it's more like producers now. I want to, I want to get in with, um, with Swiss beats and Timberland. Like, I really want to work with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be cold. Bills and shit. I hit up Tim already. I, I told you I'd be DM and niggas, bro. If I want, if I want to, if I want to, if I want to, I'm gonna hit you up. You ain't gonna hear from nobody else with me. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta turn me down. I got a Because I love the production, too. Like, that's one of my favorite parts of it. What's your favorite Swiss beat and what's your favorite Timberland beat?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Ooh, you want a... My favorite Swiss beat is probably, who the fuck y'all want? Jay the kiss. Okay. Who to fuck, y'all? Oh, niggins. That beat is crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And you said, Timberland, I think it would have to be... Damn, Tim got so many, bro He got one of my head He got hella He got hella airs Swiss got hella airs too I tell you my favorite Timelaan beat
Starting point is 00:50:43 Is that your bitch Thinking that's what I was gonna say I was gonna say that That beat is crazy But then I started thinking about All the Aaliyah beats And then I started thinking about The Genuine beats
Starting point is 00:50:56 Missy Missy And then like you know what I mean He said You got too many God the habit He got too many You can't pick the favorite
Starting point is 00:51:12 Because don't none of them Just sound the same I know that's what But just that I remember like Because think all of his missy got that he did Yeah I know genuine Like you said genuine Why you do that?
Starting point is 00:51:22 Shit Justin Timberle He made that Dunna na na da da All in my grill Yeah Yeah Yeah My favorite Swiss beat I had to say is
Starting point is 00:51:33 D-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Oh, you like one of the fans, Joyce, you're a bass rapper. No, I mean, yeah, I like, twist one of my favorite. Twisted one of mine, too. I just like the, you know, I remember hearing these songs for the first time, and that sound being something you never heard before. Yeah, yeah. Like, this one that got hooked on the Swiss.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Yeah, yeah. It's hard to yell when the bell rails in your mouth. It's hard to yell, don't, don't, bring them out, break them out. That's it. See, I'll be liking the old Swiss beats. like you heard Cassidy ain't for the hit oh yeah that shit was crazy yeah hell yeah you got all the shit he did for X on that first on them come on man my name you know what I mean yeah Cassidy I just love when that nigga bring his whole crew it's just another man that shit
Starting point is 00:52:19 man I can chew a hole through man man come on man I think so man it's a young nigga it's a no it's a young nigga it's a young nigga coming out of New York that that's my That's my favorite producer right now coming out of New York young nigga named Cash Cobain. Right. Like this. Man, this nigga beats, yeah, he do a lot of sampling of the old R&B song. So it gives you that nostalgia of them beats that you like. And then he flipped the shit and make it cold, man.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Like, slim, like, because one of my favorite beats is Nelly Dilemma. That's one of the coldest beats out. Right, right. And he took that and flipped it into some shit. That shit's so jamming, man. So it is some young niggas this question. I think it's definitely the underground. Like, that's the best, like, got the best sound.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Like, I always had the best beats. Yeah, like, I think, like, the production now is, like, really polished and it's moved away from, like, darker shit. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, the beast that you were talking about, like, those stand out. Like, when those dropped at their time, like, they just stood out from everything. Like, I remember hearing the hard-knock life beat for the first time,
Starting point is 00:53:25 nigga. I was like, what a fuck? What a nigga? That's her from. That's from Annie. Hey, Annie. Yeah, yeah. Your damn, Danny.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah. I still think good in my self-there one of the hardest pieces. Yeah, hell yeah. Boom, boom. Come out of that shit. It's crazy. Uh, yeah, uh, shit, man. UGK.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Yeah, UGK. Yeah, UGK was hard. Diamonds and wood, like that beat. And Pemps, he was making all that shit. Yeah, Pemps he was making that piece. Pocket Full of Stones fucked the game up when he came up. He didn't death in the dude, bro. His production was crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yeah, though. Yeah, yeah. Talk that, ah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, I work with Forrell. Yeah, I work with P. He's one of my favorite producer.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah, man. Yeah, for real. Them to Neptunes, too, man, like that. Farrell's really talented. Ferell is a beast. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He makes that shit right there, too.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Like that shit, man. That nigga had me trying to tie fucking paper towel around my big ass head. My mom was a man and the motherfucker. Jazzy Frey? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Jay's hard. He's a great writer, too.
Starting point is 00:54:31 He slept on his father. He did, girls in the club showing love. Yeah, he writes about a good song. She had that ass for the butt nigger, whoa, oh. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. Long name, love. What if that was your pastor favorite song?
Starting point is 00:54:45 He just walked up to the pool pit on the instrumental. Everybody know what it is. He got the organs playing this shit. Whew, we'll, whew, will. Oh, shit. Do you have a favorite records you did of your own? catalog or to like perform or something you know like I got so much shit like
Starting point is 00:55:07 niggas be playing that shit I'd be like damn that shit it's hard I'd be forgetting you know it's taking a nigga to play that shit because I got like I got so many mix tapes and they all just go for their time like whatever time that shit was in it's just jamming for that time so I like
Starting point is 00:55:26 I still like to perform shit like this plane I think one of my favorite joints to perform That gets a good reaction, is mesmerized, like, when I do that. Oh, yeah, yeah. But, like, a real one, when I really, really want to, like, fuck people up, I do something, like, the race off of rolling papers. Or there's a lot of different songs. It depends on where I'm at, like, different countries, yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:49 like different countries or different states. You look at those stages, and be like, oh, nah, this vibe. Hey, play this. Yeah. Even then he's, you know, playing it. Just a random one. It's a random one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:59 hell yeah that shit happens all the time because you go i go based off of the crowd a lot of the times and you'll know like how deep they go into the catalog like some people they really do just want to hear the classics you know what i'm saying and i don't mind just performing my classics like some people will ask me like do i get tired of doing black and yellow or see you again i love performing those songs you know what the coldest part though is you documented all that shit so they got to watch how that shit just got bigger and bigger yeah yeah absolutely you know From the theaters to the arenas, to the sold-out motherfucking Super Bowl type shit, you know what I'm saying? Who kind of like implemented that like into your head to document everything?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Because a lot of people don't even know if this would have been documented. It could end. Yeah, you can literally go to day-to-date, day one and catch up. Yeah, that was really my thing. Like there was nobody like guiding me or telling me to do that shit. It was like how now social media is real. important. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Back then, social media was just starting. So you had people who had no idea about it. Right. And then you had people like me who were like running an experiment. Like, you know what I mean? YouTube. I'm the consumer. Yeah, so I got to upload on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yeah, I was just like, I made my YouTube channel, and I followed certain people at the turn, and I watched what they did or heard what they talked about. And then I heard from my YouTube channel, I heard about Twitter. And then I made a Twitter, and then I just started. I started building my following on there. And I would literally edit the videos myself. You know what I'm saying? I didn't, I wasn't really relying on the team
Starting point is 00:57:37 or even worried about the best quality. I'm like, my shit is a movie. Niggas need to see this shit. Yeah, yep. And yeah, so I just was all about making content and all about interacting with my fans. And I seen the value in that shit really, really early before the label seen it
Starting point is 00:57:55 and before it became mandatory, you know, you know, for an artist to do. So you came in, leverage you. Yeah, I showed the value in that shit. There's so many other artists that benefited from you doing that, because I remember looking back and seeing all of the guys from your class, y'all interacting.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Yeah. You know, you Wale and niggas in the laundry room and, you know what I mean, all of that shit. Like, it gave access to artistry that I think a lot of people probably don't appreciate, didn't appreciate them, but now, if you're one of them other artists that was around you at that time,
Starting point is 00:58:27 you get to go back and see where you, at in 2012, 2013. Yeah, even with spit it, like, when I got around him, he was like, what the fuck you know on the camera, like? You know what I mean? That should be scary, so I was like, you know what he going? You know what I mean? But then he's seen me on the couch, like, with my computer, like, you know, editing
Starting point is 00:58:44 shit, and he was like, damn, you're actually doing this shit yourself, and then he started to see, like, the effect of that shit of, you know what I mean, like, how that shit was working, and then you start to realize, like, oh, this is the fucking wave, like, this is how how you do this shit. Going live on, like, it was you streamed back then. Like, nigga, I was going live from the apartment and shit. Like, just doing shit that niggas wasn't really doing at that time. But like you said, niggins were scared to that shit too.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Because like, we was coming out of like a real trap era, like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, we was just cool young, because we was around, like, all of that shit,
Starting point is 00:59:27 So we were just more on some cool shit. Right. Yeah, yep. So, like, definitely it took a little bit of getting used to for niggas seeing cameras and all of that. Now they're fucking with. Yeah, yep. Yeah, literally. Now you're independent now.
Starting point is 00:59:43 What made you decide to go back that route and not sign another major deal? Because I'm sure they were offered to you. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I felt like I would be doing myself a disservice by signing another. other, like, major deal right now, you know? Especially when they're independent, it's so great. Where the game is at, it's really reliant on, everything relies on the artist. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Like, everything. There's not a person at a label who's going to do more for an artist than they can do for themselves. Right. Like, the label has money and shit like that, but, like, if you're an artist and you're trying to, like, establish yourself and build a fan base, like, being on a label isn't the place to do it. You have to do that before you go to a label.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Yeah. So it's like me being established, I don't have anything else to do. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm only doing stuff for my fans. Like, it's literally just for my fans so we can go on tour so we can have music to listen to, so we can have merch to wear. And so the legacy continues so it doesn't die off. But, like, as far as, like, a label goes, I'm going to be doing all the fucking work.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Like, you know what I mean? And I love my label that I came from, but they know how. important me having the sauce was you know what I mean like and it's it's at a weirder place now like with TikTok and all of that stuff to where you know the older cats they don't get that shit they don't understand it and there's no young people that work at labels so yeah they're all my age so it's like I'm one of them now you know what I mean it just really don't make sense there's ways to leverage it and shit like that like if I was to do a project
Starting point is 01:01:27 And they were, you know, there was like, it made sense or like they offered a certain amount of money, but to like sign with a label and to be like, yo, I'm gonna give y'all five albums or like, hell no, I already gave y'all six, 10, I don't know how many albums I gave them, like, you know what I mean? But it's like, yeah, including the soundtracks and all that shit. Like, that shit adds up. It makes sense somewhere, but we're good. Like, you know what I mean? I'm good to go. So it just makes more sense to just like, you know, do it on my own and be cool with them. Plus, you already, you built you, that's how you got to the labor anyway. Right now with that experience, you can take that shit and do that shit times. Yeah, hell yeah, like with a name, with the experience.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Of course you don't get, like, playlisted and, like, bumped up to the top, but all you got to do is spend money to do that shit. That's all they do. They spend money, you know what I mean? Like, that's their job. They pay people, and shit gets done. So, like, I got bread.
Starting point is 01:02:24 So if I wanted to do all of that, then I just, spend the money and just, you know what I mean, be up there where the niggas is at. Right. Yeah, yeah. So do you gotta make something, like, does it change when you're saying you have to spend your own money,
Starting point is 01:02:37 does that make you more in tune with the record? Because you gotta put your own money up, like versus a label who, you know, like a black and yellow, you knew, but you ain't had to put your old money up. If you didn't put your old money up, you might not have known the way you did. So has that changed now that you gotta put your own bread up? I don't think it changes anything
Starting point is 01:02:53 because it's always a gamble. It's never guaranteed. So if you're gonna bet, you gotta bet big. You know what I mean? Because you want the return to be big. So if I believe in something, I'm gonna go full on with it. And even if it doesn't come back,
Starting point is 01:03:09 at least I fucking try it. Like, this is business. You know what I'm saying? You keep trying until it works. And I'm just so smart and tapped in that I know that nothing really moves without certain, you know, components. So a lot of niggas try to rush it
Starting point is 01:03:24 and do it too early and end up spending money. on shit that would never even work anyway. So what I like to do is, you know, make things work in my favor. And however long that takes to make it work in my favor, I wait and I know what it looks like. And then that's when I make my move. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:43 See, that would come from the experience of being in the game. Yeah, yeah. You don't know how the music business is real. Yeah, yeah. You ain't got nobody behind you. Yeah. Like you said, putting that money down and all that. All that independent shit.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I just told my partner, he's still trying to make music. He said, you need to sign me, bro. I said, if they ain't listening to me, they ain't going to listen to your ass. But I can say that. Whatever you're looking for me for, I'm like a label. You have to spend, once I sign you, then what? I got the pay and put your ass in a position
Starting point is 01:04:18 to make it look like this is what you're doing before you got signed. How the hell I know I'm going to get that money back? Mm-hmm. Yeah, speak to the responsibility of being independent, though, because it sound good. Yeah. Most people don't know the hard work that it really takes to be. Yeah, yeah. They don't even be in the studio. Yeah, it takes a lot of hard work. Like I was saying, you got to bet on yourself,
Starting point is 01:04:39 you got to spend the money. You know what I mean? Like, when you're on a label, they might or might not have a budget. Like, for me, I was one of the top artists, so I could go to the studio whenever I wanted to. So that's over. So like now, you know, I'm getting studio, like, I'm paying for the studio. I'm getting a studio bill. So, you know, it's a business, so I'm, every night I'm going in there spending money, hoping that that shit comes back off of a record or off of tour, off or whatever, whatever. Because if it don't, then I just want a bunch of money and smoked a bunch of weed and fucking listen to a bunch of songs. So it's definitely an approach
Starting point is 01:05:19 where it's like, all right, we're spending this money, but it's got to come back. Like, I'm going to spend it. I'm not going to hold back and be like, well, no, I'm only going to the studio three nights out of the week. Now, I'm going in there every night still, nigga, because I'm independent. I'm working for myself, and I'm betting on myself, and I'm putting all my money on myself. So when it comes back, it's going to have that same energy that I put into it. If I put scared energy into it, and I'm like, oh, man, you know, we need to hold on to this brand because, you know, studio session is five grand. I'm like, fuck it, nigga. Like, get the whole house for the fucking week if we need to catch a vibe like but we need to make sure we make
Starting point is 01:05:56 some shit nigga and we've got to make sure we make some content and we got to make sure we interact with these fans and put all the energy into it to make sure that that shit comes back so we're not just fucking throwing money and praying that the fans love it because that's not what's going to happen that's that's not the business that we're in bro and like these days like the kids don't care about all that shit they don't care about the flashy shit Everybody got a fucking Rose Royce, like, for Giotto's is cheap as hell, and you can't tell whose chain is real or not.
Starting point is 01:06:28 13-year-olds wear Balenciaga. Niggas don't care, bro. So you've got to really be bringing that heat. And that's what is going to bring the money. So if you're spending money, you got to make sure you're bringing that shit. And that's where I'm at with it as an independent artist. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:42 That's my responsibility as an independent artist to wake up every day and make sure, niggas, I've got some space. writ free in your head. Yeah. Well, I tell you what? The big-ass shoes you wore that. Where was them shoes?
Starting point is 01:06:56 Oh, they're Balenciagas, too. The ones with the pointed toe that you had on. Yeah, there was the new Balenciagas. They may not even come out yet. Oh, where? No, no. But they invite me to their shows, and they send me gifts and stuff like that. They hold me down.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I ain't even tripping. I ain't even tripping. The people from... I don't want to know. The people from Chuck Taylor would not win off you. Because I don't want to be... I don't want to be especially with nobody.
Starting point is 01:07:20 I wouldn't be able to wear what the fuck I want to wear. I mean, with that being said, Taylor gang, like the Chuck Taylor's. Like, that was, you stamped that. Yeah, yep. I mean, for show. Like, so what was that? Because I remember you saying earlier in the interview, like, you was worried about what jays you was going to wear. What made you say, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:07:38 I'm going to put on some white man 50s basketball. No, for real. No, for real. That shit really started, like, because they was affordable. Like, I was selling weed at this. time like I said in high school so I was like nigger I'd rather wear chucks than anything I didn't start wearing jays till I met currency like I didn't give a fuck about shoes like I wore dicky suits and chucks in high school like that was my that was my uniform what I didn't
Starting point is 01:08:05 care about like fashion I didn't care about like I listen to dipset like you know what I mean so it wasn't about like really buying fat like designer or anything like that it was I listen to dip set state property so big we wore car hearts I shot that on Army Navy. So it turned into a fad because I was on the road and I had one pair of camo shorts and I had my chugs and it started getting cold and I pulled my socks up to making be pants and I was just my uniform on the road. Like that's what I smoked weed and traveled and did shows in. And then I bought a Louis Bell as soon as I got some money. But like that was just my thing. You know what I mean? It really wasn't. I kind of got made, and I made fun
Starting point is 01:08:49 But, like, niggas would laugh at me because I wore chucks, you know what I mean? But, like, it is what it is. Like, I just made that shit popular. You did, because the niggas were walking around with Chuck Tellers on, like, they was in the sand la. You ain't for to get the anchor, the low-cut. Then them niggas, they had the low-cut ones. Niggas was-go-to-gette. Natives was tying up.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Yeah, no, man. You got, like, a certain bodice to-thead. Yeah, you got like, they was about to jump over the gate in the sandline. Yeah, yeah. And the P.F. Flyers. Oh, my good. Now, them fly.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Yeah, yeah. P.F. Flies more than I do the trucks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I never had a pair of Pierre fly. You can get a pair. They're like $16 now. I had some British nights. I remember I ordered that beer with some B-K.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I didn't have the Burger King. Well, the bitch is so big. I stepped on everybody. Everybody's shrewing that one. What year was yours? I had some when they was hot shit. I had the one with the fat-ass tongue. The tongue was big as a mother-ful. I had them like the year after they was hot. Damn.
Starting point is 01:09:47 No, I'm talking about. When that was the shit, when that was the shit to have. I was like, is anybody still rocking the league? They're like, uh-uh. You remember them L.A. Gears? The boy, the L.A. Gears? What about the ones that look like hiking shoes? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:02 The different colors. Y'all had never had the waterproofs? The waterproof L.A. Gears? No, the timblest. The, the, are you talking about the mountain? The mountain. The mountain on the side of the end. This thing is talking about the first downs.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah. Peaceburn. You couldn't work on the first down. First down shoes, you would wear a first down jacket though. Yeah, first-down boot. But the first-down boot, you can't wear the first-down boot? I mean, yeah, you could wear them if you got them, but the first-down jacket.
Starting point is 01:10:27 But they were expensive, though. They would see you're always like a box on. If you put in the Ford or Eddie Bower, you would get a first down. I mean, I wore, I wore the motherfucking shoe to school. Everybody was just like, I ain't never, like, they weren't even looking at the teacher no more. Everybody's feet was just like, yeah. I just felt my feet, dude, lift up.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I was just getting carried out of school, you did. It was a ghost that took me right on that man. I'm like, I never wear these again. Just regular boots. As far as fashion, like, I would say that you are iconic in hip-hop fashion because of what you've done, like, whether it be the merch or just the actual style. It was a period of time where everybody was dressed like Whiz or Walee or one of them, you know, one of y'all guys at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:15 They still, they still do. It's just not popular to put me up there as the inspiration, but I inspire a lot of people. Why you think that is? What? It's not popular to put you up there in the inspiration. Because I'm not loud about it. If I was loud about it, then, you know, a lot of people would be forced to agree.
Starting point is 01:11:33 But I just let it slide. But you know what I mean? I've had eras of inspiring niggas, like the chucks, and then you got the blonde patch, and then I was the first to do my hair, to dye my hair color, too, as well. I did the patch, nigga. I did the patch and the blonde dreds, though. And, like, having, having every pretty much, like, younger artists have dreds with colors in there.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And then even now, like, with the barriers that I'm breaking in the silhouettes that I'm doing, people are doing it, but they're not doing it on my level. So I introduce a lot of people to a lot of things that they're scared of. Even my run with Celine, even my run with a lot of, you know, just like, just a lot of the shit that I wear. or how I wear it, they figure out, oh, Wiz did it. So he made it look cool, so I could do it now as well. And I don't really need the credit, because I'm just gonna keep doing shit
Starting point is 01:12:26 because I'm fearless. Like, I don't care if people talk about my shoes. I don't care if people talk about what I do. That's a part of, like, you know what I'm saying? And they've been doing that shit before niggas knew who I was. I made it through that. I'll be all right. But what does happen is you start to see other people
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Starting point is 01:18:13 That's what happens when you're a trend seller and you're independent. And to pick it back up off the music tip, and it's like, I understand, like you're feeling that leverage of you being independent because you've got all these different, you know what I'm saying, lanes that you already just attack it. Yeah, yeah. Coming with the label, it's hard for them to, you know, dictate. how they gonna use you. Even when I try to come to the label,
Starting point is 01:18:37 I said, well, I got 11 million views on a video. Your artist, you just signed, barely got 600,000. What's the difference? I beat the number game. Yeah, if you'd had 20, you know, maybe we could have had a conversation. I said, so it's not about talent anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Nah, that's what I was saying about the perception. And that's why I love music because I do this shit whether the perception is that I got the biggest record in the world or the perception is that I could be doing Because if I drop a video, right now I might do 305, you know what I mean, in the first couple days. But there's artists on labels who they're doing 9 million, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:19:15 But there's people would be like, oh I wish, I would expect you to do this, I would expect you to do that. But they don't know what goes into that. They don't know how maybe this person might have a huge following on TikTok. Maybe this person might, you know, have worked with a director or did a collab with somebody who they're following is the reason is the reason that they have nine million.
Starting point is 01:19:35 So it's like, it's all about figuring that shit out. And then once you do it, you really don't need the labels anymore. Because they're only stepping in when that shit is hot, bro. So if you're the one who, like, you could drop and you could do 10, or you could do however many numbers, you just keep adding that shit up. You just keep, and then by the end of the year, nigger, you'll have a plaque that says how many fucking views that you did, and you could take that in there and show them that.
Starting point is 01:20:00 And their artists might have one video that did that, and then they fell off. after that, but you stay consistent. You know what I'm saying? And that's where I look at it, where it's more beneficial for the artist to where you don't look at those numbers. They're gonna look at that shit as value,
Starting point is 01:20:15 but that's not really value, it's just a perception and it's to blind you and make you think that that shit is actually real. When you do some shit that's actually real, you gonna know, bro, like, you know what I mean? So that's what it's more about building up and more about standing on. And that's why I fuck with TikTok,
Starting point is 01:20:32 Because there's people who are on TikTok that you might not know him, you might not know him, you might not know him, but somebody in this room know him or somebody's kid know him, and they'll freak the fuck out, yo. And like, as a businessman, I got to know. Like, I'm like, why is this person freaking out? I'm not looking at you like, oh, you're just a TikTok star. I'm like, why the fuck is these niggas freaking out about this nigga?
Starting point is 01:20:55 Like, you know what I'm saying? And what the fuck else can they do? You know what I mean? And them be the niggas who drop a video of them. And that shit. $170. $1.70 million. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:21:06 I'm telling you. Just saying, what it is? With Nike. Instead of hating on it, you got to figure out how to... $8 million average. It is. You know what I mean? Like, you can't hate on it.
Starting point is 01:21:17 You got to figure out how to do it. That's what I'm saying. It's beautiful. It's beautiful because the game has gotten to a point where you can do that. You know what I mean? My daughter is the reason why I know anything about TikTok. She put me on. Like, it was so crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:30 I love y'all skins, too, bro. Oh, yeah. And when she originally was telling me, Daddy, you gotta put the stuff on TikTok because all I use is Instagram, you know what I mean? But that's old man, social media to my daughter. That's for old people. They don't fuck with that at all.
Starting point is 01:21:44 So she was like, Daddy, you gotta put it on TikTok. So I called myself putting it on TikTok. She called me, Daddy, you put it up wrong. Let me show you how to do it. She took the video, put a whole bunch of different hashtags on it, did, this did, that I'm watching her working. And I'm just like, man, I thank God, I'm cool enough to my daughter to wish you want to show me this.
Starting point is 01:22:02 She cracked the code. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's how you fucking survive, bro. I know when I was that age, I wasn't showing Wanda, none of this shit I was doing outside because I didn't want her to know. But my daughter, like, no, daddy, do it like this. She put the same video back up,
Starting point is 01:22:17 and then I put it up, it had like 7,000 views. She put it up, it hit like 1.3 million views. Same video. Same video. Yep. I'm like, so it just let me know that there's a gap. It's always going to be a gap. But you just got to be cool enough
Starting point is 01:22:29 to where the people who are in place now want to close the gap for you because we can't do it. We can't do it. You can't do it. You can't do it. A lot of niggas are scared to close that gap because they want to stand on like what they knew before. But if you know now like, you'll-
Starting point is 01:22:44 Instagram do feel the old one. It is, bro. It feels like the hood, bro. Every time I go to Instagram, I feel like we're going to the hood. That's where it's right. I never was on Facebook. You never see what I'm saying? No.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Sleeper, you can make some butt on Facebook. I mean, you can. But I'm talking about. Barbecue. I'd never forget when I missed. When I knew Facebook, when I knew Facebook was too much, when I seen my mama and my aunt in the comments arguing, I said, oh, no, oh no, I got to get off of here.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Because I'm scared, because they know me. They fuck around and go into the right post, but like, nigga, that's why your son, deal, man, like, oh, no, please don't put that out there. Don't put that out there. Yeah, I had to get off at Facebook, too, man. Once I was saying, you know how to show you what other motherfuckers on there liking and shit.
Starting point is 01:23:29 And I saw my auntie leaving the mouth in the water under this nigger pitch, I said, down. Oh, yeah, yeah. With my auntie, hell, no, bro. She said to some years old. Hell, I got to get over there, bro. Just the mouth with the water. Yeah, niggins see a niggas holl at my mama.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Yeah. I said, bro, a nigger. She old school, it was the mouth in the, in the actual water, bro. Oh, God. It was a nigger hauling at my mama under a picture. pictures she put up with us. This nigger, I looked at this nigger page. He then took a picture himself with a flip phone
Starting point is 01:24:05 in the bathroom mirror. I said, oh, this nigga trying to, let me get off of here, man, because I don't want to see these old niggins. Then the funny part is he reacted. And my mom, well, thank you so much. I'm like, you like this nigger with the flip phone, mom. Facebook getting people hoax.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Facebook makes it seem like you still got it. Monefucking poker, you're like, ooh. Oh, fuck. What? What you see what you? like what you see? No, that was an accident. There's a lot of shit out here that to get you hope. Tick-Tock, get you hope.
Starting point is 01:24:38 A good trip to Walmart. I hate that they don't close that Mouthful. If you ever feel in, T-Tit-T-T-T. I mean, Walmart just be 24 hours. I hate the day, not 24 hours no more, bro. I used to walk in at a bit 3 o'clock tomorrow. What you want? Nothing. Nothing. I just want to walk in this bitch because it's the only thing.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Yeah, you go in there and see all them people that's on the missing post. in there working. You're like, that was the best part about what I'm telling you. Chico, that's fucked up. They was. I'm telling you some real shit, man. Don't go to Walmart at the 2 o'clock of the border. You're going to see all the missing people. It ain't Walmart working, bro. I'm telling you, bro. I'm telling you, bro. I miss them random Walmart trips at 3, 4 in the morning. You just going in and buy random ass shit, have groceries and a fucking workout bench. I went to my first Black Friday at Walmart.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Ooh, I know that she won't. I almost see the nigga die, bro. Oh. That's fucked up. That's why I'll never go back. It was a TV, bro. No, hell no. It almost fell on his head, and then somebody came and caught it,
Starting point is 01:25:45 and a lady screamed, she was like, you gotta kill him! I was like, oh my God, bro. When this was before you was famous? It was, I was on my way to be famous. I was at the club. club and I told my niggins. Oh yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Oh, what about? Hey guys, let's go. That's the bill. That's the bill. I said, hey, I don't know what the fuck y'all doing after the club. I'm going to Walmart, niggins. You're going to give me a flat screen.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Exactly. Yeah. That's right about Walmart, niggas. You could just be in the club, 2.30. What you're about to do? I'm already running the BB guns. I used to love to the white man get the BB gun out. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Like, you'll grab that for me? Like, sure you want it? I would like, can you grab that? back for me. I'm going to play with it. In your face. You're back there, rancid piece of shit. Walmart, they got strange ever since they stopped selling fish.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Now that you can't buy pets and Walmart, oh, shit. Even if you wouldn't buy them fish, you would just walk back. Look at them bitches. They build about a tie. time then. Yeah, about a garden. Yeah, about a garden.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Yeah, about the garden. Hey, the cut. What you doing back here? Gray. Oh, boy, guys. You're right by awesome back this motherfucker. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Boy, that's the weirdest part in Walmart. Hey, man, this nigga Whiz got the, boy, that's funny, that's the one part in Walmart. Hey, you over here, man. We got to get back to having our Walmart to be 24 hours. Yeah, we need that. We need that. Who gonna be putting that on the bathroom?
Starting point is 01:27:32 Yeah. We need that, bro. That means groceries all day, every day. Hell yeah. I never get. Everybody know grocery prices be different. In Walmart, man, I remember I was in college. I was getting food stamps, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:46 In college? Yeah. I called, you know how you called the Lord Highline to see what your balance is. No. Man, I called a high line and said, Joe Gallagher. No. It's...
Starting point is 01:27:58 No. No. Two hundred fifty, man hung the phone up so quickly and went the wall behind me. And that bitch bawling. Oh, smart. I bought to have that twice out of my lifetime. Well, you're talking about my man. There's a more man.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Yeah. Unfortunately. He's not some more. Oh, yeah. Than the Caliphah Cush with... Man, like I smokes more. Yeah, the Caliphish. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Right. We all love. I've been half since the beginning. Who would you say is, you know, as far as you have your own strain? That's different. I'm sure you involved, too, just from the type of nigger you is. Yeah. Like, who would you say you...
Starting point is 01:28:35 Yeah, exactly, from the seeds on the scene? By hey. Yep. So who would you say you, you know, learn the most from on that side of the game, the... Burner? Yeah. Shout out the Burnham, man. Shout out to Burnham, man.
Starting point is 01:28:47 I just had a baby, baby boy. Congratulations, man. Yeah. another store somewhere. Yep, yeah. Burner taught me everything I know about the weed game. I was always smoking good weed, but until I met Bernard,
Starting point is 01:29:03 that's when I started smoking real weed. And he taught me about, you know, the soil and just everything that goes into it. That's a nigga. Yeah, Berner taught me everything. And then he was ahead of the curve. Oh, damn, I'm bad, bro. He was just ahead of the game on the legal side of it.
Starting point is 01:29:21 He took a lot of real. You know what I mean, moving a lot of weed around, showing a lot of love to a lot of rappers and or just putting a lot of different people on and just linking a lot of things that what you see now are, you know, is the weed game. There's a lot of other people in there too, but Bernard, he's the OG and he made a lot of money and he just really, really, you know, shared the game with me, put me in the game, brought me to strain Khalifa Kush, the original strain, and just, you know, show me. me how to turn it into a business and allow me to, you know, do my own thing. He never was like, yo, I want a piece of Khalifa Kush, or you got to do this, that, or the other thing. Yeah, and he loves the plant, bro. Like, he loves weed.
Starting point is 01:30:08 He loves the culture. He's really, like, an old-school weed, nigga. Like, you know what I mean? And, like, that's not really, like, common in the game. Like, somebody who will pull up, he flies to different countries. He meets with all of the distributors. He meets with the growers. He shows people how to grow.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Brow, you'd have been a hype. And I'm going to stay. I don't know what that was. He'd have to put you on. This motherfucker ain't talking about shit. Eat a ditch week. You're not here for two weeks. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:30:42 He'd have you. Yeah, you said, put to eat. Just give me to it. He'd be jude. Everybody always Put you on their list The people to smoke with Who you got left
Starting point is 01:30:56 You want to smoke with Ah shit There ain't nobody left man I smoked with George Clinton That shit was cool as hell Damn You rolled it I gave him some of my weed
Starting point is 01:31:06 Okay, okay That's crazy Yeah Yeah I gave him Small question Yeah I got some Did you roll it Him
Starting point is 01:31:13 Yeah My man don't do that shit No more But he just smoked weed That nigga like 80 years years old, bro. I was talking to a dude in Vegas at the cookie store, ironically, and I can't remember his name.
Starting point is 01:31:25 God forgive me for not remember your name, but he was just telling me about how the weed game and work and all that. And he was like, guys who really know we always got a special stash or something that you ain't seen in years. I'm like, man, where the hydro at? He was like, oh, trust, you run up on the right motherfucker. He's going to pull that jaw. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Do you have? That's that right there. That's it? That's my personal stash right there. Yeah, I mean, I got some other things on, I got some other things. This is a turkey bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got some other things on the menu because everybody don't like to get as high as I get.
Starting point is 01:32:03 But this is, this is good as it's going to get right here. Y'all don't do shit like this. I told you, I've been doing this shit for a long time, man. How about this shit? What do you think is this is? One under a half. Okay, you know what you tell. Yeah, yup.
Starting point is 01:32:20 You know what I'm saying? Got that's what I'm saying? Okay. I see. Yeah, this is it. A quick pop quick with it. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Because you know, a nigger to try to up it like, no, nigger. It's just a half-sit. Yeah, that's what I'm right here. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Maybe a little under, maybe a little bit.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Maybe a little under. Maybe a little on. Get a honey. You don't even fucking land it. That's the part nobody ever talk about. How many people a day ask you for some weed? Digger. Out of blessed the hood.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Everybody. Tell them, niggum, we all, tell them to call it, let us know. TNC. Stop playing the block on five. How do they just be like, man, what a way? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:08 I get surprised though, because I don't even be asking niggas to smoke no more. I'll just be like, I'd be chilling and they'd be waiting like. What a way that boy? When this nigga go ask you? You were the occasional weed smoke a lot. I used to hate it back in the day with like match up. Because it may be three other niggas on his blunt, but you only on your blunt.
Starting point is 01:33:28 So when you match up somebody, now you gotta smoke with three extra people. And Pink's like, you could come around a couple times without weed, but after a while it's like you really hang with niggas, everybody got their own sex. So we all just rolling up and nobody really like cares. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I might have a little bit more weed than you. So it's like we all gonna get hot. Like, and whoever's up, we get in stone.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Right. But, like, it was, and that's the thing, too. Like, niggas, that's the thing, too. Niggas got to have, you gotta have good weed, you gotta have good weed karma. Like, you gotta, what's they play that? What's weed karma? Like, you can't really,
Starting point is 01:34:05 you can't really trip off blood. Like, you can't be stingy off of it. Like, you gotta, you gotta know that more is on the way. Okay. So, like, the niggas who trip out about weed and be stingy about weed, like, they're, They're the ones who don't get it in abundance.
Starting point is 01:34:19 You know what I mean? Like, the way that I hand out weed, that's because God bless me and he's going to give me weed for the rest of my life. So it's like, you know, smoke. Like, we are going to enjoy this shit. Oh, I'm not. You got to give it away, bro. Yeah, yeah, it's good weed, karma, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:37 It's just fun, bro. I mean, that's what I do you got to pass it down. There's a thing for the giveaway weed that somebody gave me? Nah, you guys paying for. That's got to be in the commandment somewhere. If somebody gives you some weed up. You got to, if somebody gives you some weed, you at least got to share it with somebody you care about.
Starting point is 01:34:51 You got to have one person where you're like, nigga. Yeah, guess what? Yeah. Whiz Caliever just put a little bit over or under the hands in my hand. Or if it's a woman, too, like, hey, baby, like, I got, yeah, fucking, yeah. That's the life. Nick that was on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Just grab a little. Chicks love weed. Oh, you know, and she's pulling up in that. Definitely love. to pay for it. You know what I love we eat? Old black women. Yep.
Starting point is 01:35:20 And they hide it in their titty. It don't matter how loud it is. And they always have their own napkin. I'll put me something in there right there. That's all I need. And then put it in the housekeepers. Hey, listen, I'm gonna save all the roaches you got. For sure.
Starting point is 01:35:35 And put them in like the little museum we got. Yeah, for sure. So it's gonna be like on some Martin Luther King. Yeah. Gonna be posted up like Wiz Blunts. Nah, for real. That's what you. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:35:46 If somebody said Bob Marley's joints, they would definitely be in the museum. That's what I'm trying to do. Everybody ain't got no whiz, bro. Who got Wiz Khali? I know you got hundreds of niggins the hives they ever been. Who got Wiz the high as he ever been? Be Real. I've ever heard niggins say that.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Be real asked me to come through the little smoke box shit. That nigga was like the hot box. He was like, nigga told me, hey, yeah, but bring your own blood. Don't smoke that. that shit, they be smoke. You ain't ready. I'm like, I'm not going. Be real, have you stone, bro. Yeah, so you say, Be Real got you the eye. Yeah, be real is the only nigga to give you that stone.
Starting point is 01:36:26 What's that stone for where? Just ready to leave the room. I was ready to leave, dog, but I couldn't. I was like, man, I don't want to look like a hoe, but I'm ready to get the fuck out of here, dog. That's crazy to have you ready to tap off. I was ready to get the fuck out of there, yeah. I was ready to fuck out of there. Hell, you can't.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Hell not. That's too much pressure, my name. That's too much pressure. If they were here smoking right now, you'd be like, what the fuck is going on? It's a different strand. It's a different strand than it's like six of them with Joyce this long, bro, smoking nonstop,
Starting point is 01:37:04 just passing them shits to you, nonstop, bro. You would be upset. I would be out of them. Nigger, be real, them niggas. I am a bitch. I'm out this. Be real in them niggas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Dude you pants me shit. Yeah, hell no. And every joint is rolled perfect, it's got a glass tip on it, so it hits good. And he's gonna make sure that you get it. Like, as soon as he lit that shit, them niggas smokes so much fucking weed, dog. And they all got like three to six jars of just bomb-ass weed, bro. Be real, and the niggas, get it. Glad till, go hard.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Yeah, yeah. What about the macaroni? The noodle. Put the noodle in that bit. Yeah. The noodle filter. I ain't going to say it on camera. I see the nigga
Starting point is 01:37:49 a legend smoking a blunt with a bagoroni noodle in the tip. You ever see Don Juan hit the weed? Oh, yeah, that nigga. Yo, that thing is Don Juan. He's smoking through his nose. That nigga Don Juan put the blunt in his nose. No he's dope.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Yes, he do. Swear to God he did, man. This is how he hit the week. So, yeah, I'm like, keep that, Don. You keep that I don't want the book of blunt Nicky, you're straight Yeah, church hit the blunt
Starting point is 01:38:20 Through his nose, girl What'd that do? I don't know We had to get a boy and ask him That's crazy That's too far I need my brother He's doing the wrong
Starting point is 01:38:32 Too goddamn far That's too goddamn far You gotta draw the line somewhere Can't just be doing Every goddamn thing You can keep that, no care, OG. Yeah, for real. Why do you see the bugle like the boogie snack?
Starting point is 01:38:48 Before you... Oh, uh, uh, uh, when he's going to deny. That's weed! That's weed! Look, that weed! Hell no. I ain't even hungry no, boy.
Starting point is 01:39:03 I see this shit like that. I'm straight, all, that ain't going to throw it up. What was your favorite shit? before you got your own weed. Shit, it's always been this, man. I've been smoking this forever, bro. You don't know about this shit. Uh-uh, I've been smoking this for almost 12 years, bro.
Starting point is 01:39:21 Nigger, I've tried to hit your weed with you and it was the fake version? No, I know, I know about the smell. I know a nigga can't have me no fake cake. Oh, real. Yeah, I can tell about a smell. You know what I'll hit someone. Not here.
Starting point is 01:39:32 I mean, not what you. Yeah. Nigger can put a name on it, but the nigga can't fake this, bro. You definitely can't fake this. That's the one, not the two, bro. Yeah. See, this nigger, no. Like I said, if there was a weed Olympics.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Yeah, you can't think that. I had to put a team up. This nigger is going on the team. I've seen this. Him and my man drinking's. My man drank is, I've seen this nigger drink. This nigger's a legend. He do the edibles.
Starting point is 01:39:57 I'd never forget. My man drank had the edible, the big-ass edible rice crispy treat. This nigga ate the whole rice crispy treat. Then turn the bag inside out, lit the bag. Damn. And then the bag on the ground and said, yeah. Steps on it. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 01:40:10 He pulled me and said, yeah, nigger, kitty cat going to get that bitch later and be tripping out this motherfucker. That nigga Drake Cole, my nigga. Poor fucking cat. He's in North Carolina now, but I'm telling you, he's not going to stop. And this nigger's not going to stop evil. But, like, seeing a nigger be able to smoke that much weed and still function is amazing to me, bro. I'd be impressed with this nigga.
Starting point is 01:40:37 You have to, wow, you have to, like, certain shit. you have to put extra effort into because you don't give a fuck that's all to do it just make you like you know when you're like I give a fuck I'm about to do it right now it just take those away for me
Starting point is 01:40:51 but like I say the highest I've ever seen him with my own and I've seen this nigga smoke I'm talking about with the best of them but Snoop had my nigga picking lint off the microphone my name yeah I wanted my shit to look
Starting point is 01:41:08 better on TV Now, when we was getting ready to do some shit on Wilden out, we had a bunch of little lint balls on the microphone, and I was like, I at least want my shit to look better than the other team, so I'd pull it all that shit off of that. These shit, that's weed down, man. You got enough weed, bro. What you don't know is this is enough weed to last us regular civilians.
Starting point is 01:41:35 For a long time. I get a handful of that shit. I'm going to be smoking that shit for a fortnight. It's going to laugh me forever. Trust me, by the thing. Yeah, we're going to smoke the hell out of all this, man. That's dope, man. All this, K.K., and it's Khalifa Kish.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Hell, yeah. Oh, we got to show this, too. Weiss bought this, boy, this doful. Explain what this is. That's just a gift bag for you. A gift bag, man. You got a gift bag. There's, um.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Yeah, you can open it up. Then you got to open it up in the front. There's the other strains in there. More we. Yeah. You shouldn't have. Y'all get the free roll. You fucking shouldn't have.
Starting point is 01:42:13 That's Folly the sky. That's a little bit lighter than the cake than the Khalifa Cush. This is lighter? Yeah, and then that's Khalifa Cush right there. This is Kalifa. Okay. That's Father Sky and then I want Khalifa Mitz. And I think Mitz is Nitz.
Starting point is 01:42:26 This is KK. That's KK. And then I think there's a Mids pre-roles. Yeah, this is KK. This is KK. This is K-K. This is Kalifa. Explain the difference between the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 01:42:37 the mints and the cushion. Just different hybrids. They're different crosses. Okay. And this is both of these are infused. Clay, you got to smoke some of this. Oh, yeah. And the infused ones have wax in them.
Starting point is 01:42:52 Oh, wow. Those are really strong. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so when you want to get super duper high. This is what you do. Just. Bargis, bull. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Yeah, yeah. So you're just going to get a weed to your ice game. He's just going to roll it up some. It's in there too. Those are the ones when you want to get real stuff. Oh yeah, for sure now. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. You do the- Oh, you do the-
Starting point is 01:43:15 Mac and Devon went to high school. Cat wanted to ask you about the movie. It was cool making that movie, man. Um, so when I first moved to L.A., he just had me come to the studio and was like, nigga, we filmed in a movie, off-rip. Like, that was the first thing we started doing. And we got in the studio and we started making, um,
Starting point is 01:43:36 the soundtrack for it, and that's when we did Young Wild and Free. And it was a really quick process, and it kind of just showed me how, like, being your own boss is, like, in this shit. Like, when you really want to do something, you just get the team together and do it. And he said we were going to do that shit. We wrote it. We went over our lines for a little bit, and then we filmed it in about a month. And the soundtrack was what was really able to, like, bring it out to the world.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Because, you know, Snoop did us a huge favor by doing it. like a whole promo tour with us. So we went to, and did radio. Yeah, a whole lot of weeks, but we went and did radio and did shows like at night in certain, certain markets. And that promoted the album and the movie and Young Wild and Free as a record.
Starting point is 01:44:23 But when the movie came out, it wasn't like a, it wasn't like a nod. It was a big thing, but that was still like in the DVD age. So like, you might have had it or you might not have had it. But then when streaming started happening, And that's when it became more like a cult classic and shit like that's definitely what it is. Yeah, yeah. So it's like it became like that Stoner movie where it was like,
Starting point is 01:44:43 yo, we got to watch Mac and Devon go to high school type of shit. That's, yeah, yeah. You're interested in doing some more movies and shit like that? Yeah, definitely, definitely. I want to do tons of movies, especially with me working out and doing the mixed martial arts. I want to do like some kung fu movies. You want to do some karate games? Yeah, I mean, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:45:04 You should do, bro. You should go to cool. Yeah. Yeah. Do their career, bro, where you gotta say black and yellow niggas? No, I was about to say. You gotta, what was it, Youngwater Free? Yeah, yo.
Starting point is 01:45:16 You do it. Son on to me, free. Don't fucking that up. They're fucking that up. You know they fucking. I thought you was gonna tell him do your favorite movie to The Last Dragon. I want to do some action shit. I want to do action shit.
Starting point is 01:45:30 I love old pimp movies, so there's like a way to bring that type of... A Kung Fu. Yeah. Don't know the mite type shit. Yeah, of course. Kung food, pimple. And then having an 11-year-old of son, I want to do some family type shit.
Starting point is 01:45:44 You know what I mean? I want to do all of that stuff. Like, are you more, speaking of your son, like, are you more, you know, are you expecting him to come on and be like, just because of his genetics like daddy. I'm like, how is the motherfucker? No, no, I'm actually like this generation, man.
Starting point is 01:45:59 They're not really that into weed, bro. Like, they look at that shit like old man stuff. He's not like, he's not like, real. He's not eager to smoke and get high. Like, maybe when he's a teenager and shit like that, he might be like, okay, you know what I mean? When you're dead at Wiz Khalifa, you might just be like, man, get the fuck away from me with that shit. Yeah, like, he might, he might not. Like, I don't really have any expectations. And like, honestly, you know, just thinking about it, I just want him to be innocent as long as possible. Right. You know what I mean? So I just don't want
Starting point is 01:46:29 to see his face being stoned. I can't even think about that, you know? That's crazy. That's my baby, boy man you know what I mean think about them growing up though yeah man it's they own they grow up not down yeah yeah my pop's didn't smoke weed my mom did and it I didn't smoke because of her I wasn't like yo my mom smoked me so I got to be like I just bumped into it and like really figured out that I love that shit when your first time your mom first time catching you high you remember yeah yeah yeah yeah I said the dumbest shit too I said what every kid said I was like man I got a headache man she was like nigga you ain't got no headache? You were high. Y'all some high niggas. Both of y'all. It was me and my homeboy.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to walk past fast as hell. She's on the couch. Smuggling with her home, girl. She's like, look at these niggas. They're high. I was like, no, you know, I'm not feeling too good, man. Yeah, you ain't got no fucking headache. You high, nigger. I'm bald. This woman, she was in my face. Yeah. Who's wrong with your eyes? I was like, man, Come on, man. I'm geeky now. She was something fun. She was smithy, bro.
Starting point is 01:47:45 I thought I was low, though. I thought I was low. I was not low. She seen my eyes from across the womb. Yeah, because she'd know. Damn, nigga. I knew I was always going to smoke weed when Juicy J release got to stay high.
Starting point is 01:48:01 I heard that song. I gotta stay high, ah, ah, ah, ah, I was like, oh, yeah, that's me right there. Forever. Forever, nigger, till I die. I'm smoking weed forever, nigga. That's when I made my mind up. Because I was back and forth a little bit, like, you know what I mean? I was like, you ain't never tried to quit.
Starting point is 01:48:18 I was like, man, am I smoking weed too much? No, I never took a little. Hell no, hell no. You never slow down? Hell no. So you don't spit it up. Nah, I wouldn't say I sped up. I just, you know, I just deal with what I got.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Well, that's me. Hey, would the good Lord bless me with? I'm gonna smoke it. Yeah, it's definitely that thing, right? I see why you love it. Yeah, no, I never slowed down. I knew when Juicy released that song because I just connected with it so much.
Starting point is 01:48:48 I was like, nigga, that's exactly how I feel. And I'm proud of that shit, you know what I mean? I'm going to smoke weed forever. And everything that I did after that, all the research that I did and everything that I heard about weed After that was fucking positive, there was nothing ever that made me want to change my mind, so yeah. Did you never start on mid? Yeah, hell yeah, we call it 50 in Fixburg.
Starting point is 01:49:09 50. Yeah, yeah. 50, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Nigger, I had to get off that mid, bro. Picking seeds out. That's just embarrassing, nigga. You smoking with a nigger and that seeds start burning, you'd be like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:49:23 You're trying to blow that shit out. It puts that shit out fast as hell. Hey, so can I see it out. Hey, my niggins, I'm fucking cracking this. You feel like, niggins, because soon as you smell it, you'd be like, who the fuck smoking seeds, kid? You got a, you smoked a 50 in here, yeah. Nah, hell no.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Especially when you smoke with the holes, you were like, nigg, put it out and light it again. Yeah, put that shit out. Smoke that shit out. That shit looks like a firecracker when it comes out. Hey, when it burning that shit's like this, thing. Yeah. You ever had one drop out?
Starting point is 01:49:59 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. She burned a hole in your sweatpants, niggas. Big holes in your clothes. Oh man. See, it's popping everywhere. Speaking, you said, Juicy J, I gotta stay high. I gotta ask you this question too, because there's so many weed anthems.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Like, if you had to pick a top five weed list of songs, the five songs that the niggas had to put a playlist together that ston is for real. The stonest playlist. What's going on you? What's your five songs? Mary James and Rick James. Mary Jane. Hey, from Crucial Conflict. Hey, in the middle of the ball.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Hell yeah. Um, I'm drawing up blank. I gotta put a snood dog song. Um, G's Up, Hose Down by Snoot Dog. A lot of people ain't never heard that one. That's on, like, the real version of Doggy style. Uh, I gotta put a Dev and the Dude song in there. So, I guess, uh, um,
Starting point is 01:50:57 Uh, shit. Which Devon song we're gonna go with? Dubey ass trick. Cool, I was gonna say that, too. Yeah, we gotta go with that one. That's what, three or four? That's four, you got one more. And I put Stiles P in there.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Oh, yeah. I get high, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gangstaise wreaths. The fuck of the shit. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, that was like the hardest. That nigga said, he just had some shit on there.
Starting point is 01:51:29 He was, like, he was loading up the weeds so he didn't have to load his gun up, bro. Yeah, like, nigga. I fought from a stone, I would never consider, but I know one of my favorite weed smoking song is Busy Bone. That who, when I'm a man, who when I'm back to me? Oh, yeah, that's a good song. Eddie Bone Thugs of Harmony song.
Starting point is 01:51:46 They were rapping to the ball. I was a kid listening. I was like a dope and a quarter-round. Wow. Oh, this is for the weed hands. Mom got some crazy smokes. They always had a weed song. But smokers only.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Uh-huh. But smokers only, but smokers only only. And yeah, them niggas was a hood gospel group. She, the person of the month is the weed song. They had Buddha lover too. Yeah, they're a buddha lover. We got another question. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:52:21 What? Stillblazing was inspired by just the extra stoned. I had to, like, that was, I think somebody sent me that beat from the internet. Like, I was just interacting with the fans, and I was like, yo, send me some shit. And I heard the fucking, um, the sample on there. I knew the sample because my pop's listening to reggae music and all that shit. So I already knew the sample. But I was like, yeah, this is the perfect weed song.
Starting point is 01:52:49 And like, at that time, I would always do one. one specific, like, weed song. Everything else, I would just mention weed in it. But I got that from Bone. Like, they would always have one specific weed song. So that was the inspiration behind that. Like, Bone always put a weed song on the album. I got to have one that's just dedicated to weed.
Starting point is 01:53:07 That's why I had a tag on there while I was like, usually I make a weed song. Yeah, yeah. Still smoking one, too. Yeah, yeah. Smoking bud. Smoking bud. The archipelage. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:19 That's what it is. Oh, it's mystical, too. Yeah, Mexico. Still smoking, but still smoking weed. I was a hard. That's on hard. That's one hard. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Yeah, that's fuck with that. Wee's songs are essential to the coach. Man, for real. Even Afro-Man, if you play that shit, that shit is going to go crazy, man. That's a good song to play, man. He had a video where the police raided his house and this nigga made a song about that shit.
Starting point is 01:53:49 He was watching the cops all the thing rapping about it. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, nigga silly, bro. I tried to make him apologize for that. Niggas. Stole my gate, where are you going to find in my CDs? That shit is so hilarious, man. You got to listen to that shit, fly that shit.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Afro man, brother. He made a video from the camera footage from his house about the police raid in his house, my nigga. That shit is hilarious. Mac Dray was really big. They really rated his house, man. Mac Dray was real big in the weed culture, too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:22 They have them and yuck mouth from all those pools. Like, a lot of the niggas from the Bay Area, they smoke big weed, man. What would you say the best weed comes from? The Bay Area. The Bay Area, got the best weed in the world. In the world. Yep. In the world, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:37 To this day, like, the weed on the streets, nigger, in the Bay. Yeah, you're going to smoke some fire. They got good weed in Detroit. Yeah, yeah. They got really good weed in Detroit. They take pride in their weed in Detroit. They'd be like, nigga. Come on.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Right here, my baby. Really? Yeah, my baby. I got you, my baby. It's on the floor, my baby. Smoke this on my baby. Yeah, yeah. You're a real wee head.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Yeah, yep. Please tell these motherfuckers, Denver, Colorado is trash. I don't want to talk bad. It's different. It's not like, it's not the shit. It's not the shit. I don't want to call it trash. All right, all, all, all, but it's not the shit.
Starting point is 01:55:16 It's not the shit. It's not. That's not about answer. It's not. It's not. It's not. Yeah, that's the formal way of saying it. I've heard Amsterdam like...
Starting point is 01:55:23 That's the political way of saying it, yeah, very political. It's not the shit. It's not the shit. You can say what you want to say. Shit, bullshit. Amsterdam. Same thing. They got to get it together.
Starting point is 01:55:36 For real? Yeah, they're getting it together. Amsterdam is stuck in their ways. They don't like to grow how niggas other people grow. They're like, yo, we grow it like this. This is how we like it, blah, blah. Nigger, the game changed. Come on.
Starting point is 01:55:48 Come on. Come on, like, for real, for real. Everybody will turn in the booze and come on! Yeah, Colorado's the same, like, they really ain't trying to, like, up it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no. How you get weed? Yeah. They're cool with it.
Starting point is 01:56:03 It's probably because they started so early in the game. Like, they were one of the first ones to be doing that shit, so they're, like, stubborn with changing that shit, but... They don't want to change at all. Yeah, I know them niggas in Oregon probably like, what about us? They didn't make crack legal in Oregon. They got some good. We didn't bring everything legal in Oregon
Starting point is 01:56:22 you can smoke and do dope and everything in the organ I try to find I can tell my brother you need to get these fuck on
Starting point is 01:56:29 and go to Oregon pack your bags man go up there man go to Oregon man do that shit on the street
Starting point is 01:56:36 live your life let this dig it with send the pictures send the pictures a bro doing cracking Oregon
Starting point is 01:56:47 yeah look at bro That I ain't said it with He didn't met his friends He got a girl's friend Oh shit That's a movie right then Oh hell hell you can't want to get you on the cartoon shit
Starting point is 01:57:16 Cat really don't want to tell you his favorite robber Yeah for sure Hey, he never see him at like this. We had pretty niggas on hell. That niggas at the front. He's like, hey. Tell him about the show. Tell him about the show.
Starting point is 01:57:34 Tell him about the show. Shit, he'll do the show make with it. No, I'm really just trying to get one of these. You see how fuck with you, bro, please. Please, please, let me get one of these. We gotta smoke this shit and get it off the street. They get it off the street. Y'all, in the street's not ready for this shit, right?
Starting point is 01:57:56 He said we didn't get all this on the street and get it off the street. What I think it's stupid. Oh yeah. Man, this is legendary, man. We got whiz and we got a gift for. What's next? We got a gift for. Oh, we do got some gifts in here.
Starting point is 01:58:11 Oh, shit. They're gonna put that shit on in your next video, my boy. Oh, hell yeah. Got me another tray. This crew neck is hard. Yeah, I feel tall. Yeah, I've been on my crew neck shit, too. Yeah, this is perfect.
Starting point is 01:58:26 That's fair. Let's see. Oh, this is sweatpants? Oh yeah, sweatpants. Oh yeah, that's shit go weed. Yeah, that's the whole sweat. Oh, yeah, that's the whole. This is perfect.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Thank you guys. Oh, then. This is fresh tail, too. I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna do a TikTok in this. Oh, yeah. You heard what you sing?
Starting point is 01:58:47 You heard what he say? What side you were? March. Go grab one of them. Yeah. That's two tit-top. So, uh-uh. So, uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:59:03 You should come out with a logo and stuff like this, please. No, for real. That might be the new logo. Sprigling the wig. Sprigling the weeds. Would you put a new logo? That might be the new logo. Like this, more please.
Starting point is 01:59:18 More please. For the show. Just to get you, but could you spare just a crumb of wreaths? We've heard so much about it, but we just kind of fought it. Oh, shit, man.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Yeah, for real. But, yeah, what's next, though, what you got coming, man? I heard you say you recorded all these songs and you were down here. Yeah, I'm going to drop pushing orange juice, too. Uh-oh. Okay, oh, look.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Wait, hit it. When can we be expecting that? I'm gonna drop that on the same date that the first one dropped the original. So I think it was the second week of April. Uh-oh. Man, yeah, right around the corner. Yeah, right around the corner. Oh, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Are you like, you're gonna still drop mixtapes and albums or not that you? I still like to drop mixtapes, but just what how it's streaming is, it's like, I'm figuring it out, honestly. Like, and this was, this was like my experiment. I dropped two, well, I think I dropped six mixtapes last year. I dropped two at the end of the year. One was called Cali Sober and the other one was called Decisions. If people didn't listen to that one,
Starting point is 02:00:21 y'all could go stream that shit. That's like the most recent of my music. But just to see what the reaction was and see how people really respond to it. And it's cool, but I'm looking for a bigger reaction and I'm looking for more something that sticks. So I could like make a bunch of mixtapes
Starting point is 02:00:38 and keep, you know, punch of air or I could like land a significant, you know, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I'm doing with Cushing Orange Juice, too. That's the experiment that I'm running, and I'm going to see how that works. And then that'll, you know, dictate whether more mixtapes or whether I just, you know, take my time and just drop those. The namesake, you're going to bring your ears that might not have listened to decisions. They're like, what's that?
Starting point is 02:01:01 But Cushing OJ, too, they're going to be like, even if they just listening to see if you still got it like you had it. That's what they're going to do. That's the thought process behind it. Somebody who I really care about, I was telling them, I could come with any name in the world. and people might or might not listen to it. Like you said, they have the option to the percussion orders use too is like, nigga, we're too, like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:01:23 I at least got to listen to some song, right? You know what I mean? And that's what I'm looking for. Like, that's what this business is. It's not, you know, what the most creative thing is. It's not necessarily even where you're at in your life. It's what people are going to engage with the most and what's going to get them to, you know, tap into what I'm doing.
Starting point is 02:01:42 And even with the music that I'm dropping, it's just really good for me right now. It's not even to say anything that, oh, I've been here and I'm back or blah, blah, or anything like that. It's just where I'm at right now. So when you tap in and when you listen to it, you're going to understand, like, you can go back and listen to the first one. You can listen to shit in between. But for me, I'm starting right here. Back. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:07 Yeah. You know, remember? I'm a brand ambassador. for his clothing line called Faith. Hey, I like that. That's hard, nigga. You wear that to my son's basketball game, man, man.
Starting point is 02:02:20 You know, like Dion Sanders. It's in that's my mouth for the law. I don't ask you for that motherfucker for the law. Then you know that's the one. You want to wear a lot. This is my Dion Sanders fit. And I got some new balance to go with this book, brother. Yeah, put a white T on.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Good 990s. Hell yeah. For show, man. This is hard. Appreciate that, my boy. That's very tactical, man. Oh, man. Talked to talk.
Starting point is 02:02:46 You know what I'm saying? We're over here building some shit, man, making it happen one step at a time, man. Appreciate it. Y'all get that? It's really nice. It's really nice. Appreciate it. Fuck wrong with y'all.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Riz make you feel good as a moment. Thank you. Kat, what else you want to ask me, nigga? Your lid shaking. Reese, what else? Nick, I thought you had an oxygen. Okay. It's your professional voice?
Starting point is 02:03:15 God damn, maybe what you got sound like that? Whiz? So, this niggins sound like a stenographer, man. All right, all right. You sound like a family guy character. Hey, whiz, you got it. Oh, Peter, what with the butt? Like, uh, uh.
Starting point is 02:03:37 It was crazy because I had just come home off of the room. So all of the shit that I was rapping about in the song was like shit that was happening while I was on the road But I remember like my cousin said in the He was like outside of the booth and shit And I was coming up with the hook And I like actually got a little bit stuck like on the hook And like when I wanted to say and shit like that
Starting point is 02:04:02 And I stepped outside of the booth And I was just listening to it over and over And then I said one bar and he was like Nick that's it right there And then that's how I came up with the say she never been part and um yeah like i wasn't even really sold on it like super confident about it but my cousin like he let me know like and he was one of my first partners that i like started smoking with so he was like nigger that's that shit so as soon as he told me i was like all right
Starting point is 02:04:25 cool bam and then i was able to move forward with it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, Sledrin. Yeah, y'all. Yeah. He's on the new album as well, so you're gonna hear some more shit. Yeah, yep. Hell yeah. Have a crash bandicoo sample on that muffing. Nah, for real. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. We appreciate you bringing this big-ass bag of wheat. Yeah, yep. This shit fine. Let me give you yours, yeah, yep. This shit's fine. Because I'm about to get on a jet so y'all come. I wish y'all was smoking. I'm not going to land to another one.
Starting point is 02:05:12 I'll just pick up everything and you drop. As soon as I get in my car, it's gonna be another one of these way in. Oh, that's a great. That's a great feeling. But look, we know this your first time stopping through here. Don't let it be your last time. It's a fast south show.
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