The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - WOODY McCLAIN in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

On this episode, Woody McClain checks in with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean! The squad talks about living their dreams and taking advantage of opportunities that they’ve had in the past. Woody breaks down how he got into entertainment and shares his history as a background dancer for people like Chris Brown and others. Woody shouts out Nick Cannon and explains how Drum Line inspired him to be in the band and ultimately an entertainer. || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, okay. All right, yeah, we're going to put it back then in. You're weak at hand. Look, you can't even put my hands. I'm not resisting, though. I'm not, my brother. You're just strong. You're weak, nigger.

You're a hell of an actor. If you could play any role, man, any historical figure, who would you want to be? Oh, historical figure? That's a good one now. That's a good one. Shit, you were already by Brown. I know. I mean, that's one, so that's my ass.

Who's another one? Hmm. You'd be a good Nino Brown. Like, Nino Brown. They had a new Nino Brown. But that's fictional. But that's fictional, man. We need somebody.

Man, that's just fucked up. Because, I mean, I know it's fictional, but ever since I seen that movie, I ain't never called that man Weston Snipes again. For real? I swear to God, everything I see him, man, I'm like, bro, you know, Nino Brown and played. That's crazy. That nigga played a whole lawyer in Jungle Fever, and I was like, nigger, nino Brown in love with a white one.

Oh, yeah, that's crazy. I get that too. Niggas play roles like that. You know, Bobby Brown in the Yolonna Adams video. video. Niggas getting mad at you for your character. They labeling you. You think so?

I don't think they labeling them. You're telling them you like, I am Woody in real life. They ain't fucking with that. Yeah, I believe you're trolling, though. I don't know a nigga that's over there. I just be talking. But that's good about it. Yeah.

Real good. Did a great job, man. That's hard to do. I'll do Dion Sanders. It's like prime. I do prime time. Yeah, I don't want to do that. He hard, bro.

Yeah. Prime with the jury curl. Yeah. Yeah. That shit crazy. You definitely could do the Jericho. I do that. That should be hard.

Yeah. Be able to redo the Must Be the Money video. Ooh. So crazy. My family's done. My fingers now. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh. Yeah. You know what's so cold about that. Yeah. You know what's so cold about that song, bro? Yeah. He didn't give him a plug.

It didn't nobody like, nigga. He's like, he like. He was locked. That's how you don't be a problem. That I think we're dancing back then too. Just him? Hammer and like nine holes. Yeah.

He didn't give a fucking did nobody like it. He liked it. Yeah. That's fire. I'll probably beat MC Hammer. Oh, that'd be hard. You'd be a good hammer, next. I knew it.

I got to drink a lot of water. I got to be a lot of dancing. You go crazy. Yeah. We got to see that, though. That's going to be hard. That's going to gain some weight. Wait.

Easy. Hey, you know. How you do it? That niggas was full of air, nigga. You ain't gonna know how big you is. You put on some ham of pants. I'm talking about up top though, but I can't move. No, he was small then too.

Oh, cool. I'm thugging. If you had to play somebody from the Bible, what would you want? From the Bible? From the Bible? Uh, Joseph. What about Joseph? He just had tranquility.

He was just calm in every situation. He never acted off impulse. It was like, all right, dude, you got to get sold to slavery by your family. He was like, what, boom. All right, nigga, you're the king getting the jail. All right, boom, you get out. All right, nigga, you're the king. You're the second in command.

Boom. All right. The nigga who is, man, he leave his wife want to fuck you, but you stay down. You're a loyal nigga. Like, that's my character. I'm a loyal person. I'm a billed off principles.

I don't act up on the impulse. And I know God got favor on me. You feel me? Joseph just was a tough, he was tough individual, man. That's a tough job, though. I know, but... To be Jesus stepdad. Oh, he ain't...

Not that, Joseph. Oh, I thought... Okay. That was way before you... I know you'll be in the Bible, Methuselah. I know you'll be in the Bible, Methuselah. That's way... Before Jesus came in the pit.

To be Jesus stepped. I was like, what is it? That's the man, why you just break that thought? That's a hard way down. What are you going to tell Jesus, bro? You can't tell him shit. Try to correct Jesus, I'll even stop. Man, all right.

What's your what I do? Man, how are you going to tell me? I'm your Lord and say. Nah, I'd be Joseph, man. You know what I mean? Joseph was cool. He was turned. Who you'd be?

I probably know it. Loua, get on the boat. You can't swim. I can't swim with a motherfucker. Nick, we're right in danger. Which is cool because God got to save you. No one wasn't swimming. But still, you got to get in their water.

You ain't getting in their water for nothing. They got to learn how to swim. Fuck them, giraff. Fuck and two for everything. What about me and my church? Got to get on that boat. Got to get on their art. They got to build it.

Yeah. They built it. And when, you know, hey. Yeah, you do. You got a Mississippi family. Man, come on, bro. They'd be some building motherfuckers. And, you know, Noah was a drunk, too.

God let him slink a little liquor on the boat. Yeah. That's crazy. He did. That's crazy. You got a little wine. Exactly who I'd be. Who?

God from the Old Testament. I'd be Old Testament God, bro. Old Testament God was a gangster. I was different to say. He got angry at that. Old Testament God was mean. Spifeful. Old Testament God was vision.

He wasn't spiteful. He was just more so, he was mad. The child nigga was just, disobedient. He's like, man, you good. And he'd be like, who we got to pray to? And God, like, I just told me. Let me find you, niggas, praying that bull again. It's on.

Let's explain you something so we can bring it in. It's a lot of interesting characters in the Bible. He's Solomon. How many wives? 700. He's 300. Well, I'll definitely. But see, he messed up.

See, you know why I don't mind being Joseph? Because I don't really too much care how my life go. I know God got me. And Joseph really ain't made no mistake. He stayed loyal to God. Other people had that made mistakes like King Solomon. He was smooth until the women he started bringing in. He started believing in their God.

That's where they get you. And God told him, no. The women that you bring it to your life, you're supposed to tell them to believe in me. Don't be out here believing in what they're doing, man. What wrong with you? Tighten up. That's why I remember the last woman who was going.

Remember the last moment who tried to get to him, finally got to him? He was like, all right, and everything till now. Well, he was straight out until he got back, right? I'm too high. I'm too high because I just started thinking about some totally unrelated shit, right? What happened? Like, God is supposed to be, like, all forgiven, right? What?

So if the devil ever apologize to God. Which he won't? I don't know. He won't? What if, what if, like, he beat a devil for, like, a certain amount of time, then his heart changed like a murderer, and then he convert back. The way that nigga is, he just won't apologize. He always think he is.

He thinks he is. He wants to be God. D.C. said that shit, like, he was just hollered at him. Yeah, a nigga is, bro. He ain't going to change. He ain't going to try to be, bro. You don't know anybody, bro. But look, look, that's how the nigg is.

I'm like, nah, my nigger, you just got to know for one who that's who he is. Now, people always. He's the nigger that's trying to deceive you. He's the one that'll be like, he gonna try to act like a nigger who you believe in. And he's gonna come around and be like, you really did this by yourself. Yeah. And you like, you think so? Man, I know so.

You got a whole flavor where you think it's coming from. And then you're like, the nigger who started to the tear. I'm like, nah, buddy, you got to always know that it coming from the higher power. That's real. That's real. That's what sparked the question. Yeah. Because it can never not be evil, right?

Like, even if you don't believe in the construct of, like, the devil and, but evil real than a motherfucker. You ever been around somebody with an evil-ass spirit? Yeah, and they're too naive to apologize, right? You don't even want to apologize. Sometimes you don't even know how deep it is. You just can feel it without even talking to them. That's what I'm saying. But this is the thing, though.

They're so messed up on the inside. They're mad at your happiness. So they're trying to tell you And convince you that your happiness is wrong We see that every day We see that every day Easy But that's what I'm trying to tell you

They're trying to deceive you To say that your happiness is wrong Because I'm not happy Why are you having And they trying to deceive you And let you know that that's not how I go You're like no Just because you ain't figured that I

Can't put your troubles on me And but this is the thing though This is why you got to at those people that that says who they are. And you're like, hmm, you're trying to deceive me and made me deter from the high power. Now I gotta tell you about yourself. This is why it's going on in your life.

This is why you're gonna be like this. And nigger, you can't blame me or anybody else. And if you keep doing that, fucking you're gonna die like that. And I ain't gonna feel sorry for you, but I know somebody who may have sympathy for you, but I won't. That's what he told the devil. Fuck your shit.

You feel me? You feel me? That's my own white snakes, man. I ain't biting no apple, nigger. Stomp that snake head in the ground, man. Why you keep making me bite this apple I was already told instructions, and proper instructions, and you're trying to see him

telling me, well, you know, that apple looked like the other apples you buying. What's wrong with that apple over there? And that's how niggas is. They're like, yeah, that's right. It do look like them apples over there. But bitch, nigger, I just told you, that apple ain't judged, bro. Just keep over here. The curiosity, curious will kill the mind. That's why you always be so curious

You're thinking like, all right, well, let me figure this out Or let me see what's going on over here Instead of just being obedient This obedience always have people go on to Idol time is the devil's playground That's the same. And he loved playing with your mind, bro. Like, that's how he feed off his energy.

Like, he love this shit. He love manipulating, he love getting you to do the opposite. Because that's really the battle you think they're going to be obedient and god like you know try it out and see he's like easy watch me he loved that shit yeah you feel me that's why you got to be a warrior be willing to fight every day you know that motherfuckers out here trying to deceive you i'm a warrior i'm ready to fight i don't get fuck you come come me with that bullshit i'm seeing you back to your maker back and be like bitch nigger ha with a note that's your strongest soldier this is your team

Get him out of there. Sitting this nigga back, man. Pessing, me, boy. You never think about that shit, though. Like when you go back and you just think about, like, just your life experiences. Right. And the time was like, okay, this had to be this because this is this. Right.

Sometimes you look back at the way shit happened or the way shit play out in me like, I know these ain't the times where I was thinking I was in control you get what I'm saying because look at us we've been able to enjoy some of the

like beyond our wildest dreams type of shit and we get to do this shit on the regular so much that sometimes we forget that these are the times that we pray for these are the drink like we literally get

to chase our dream I don't forget I say that all the time but you don't understand what I'm saying it's like we were just hoping for the one chance to do it

Right. And we get to do this shit for years and a time. Because that's the thing. When you're obedient, it comes abundantly. It's not just one time. It's the opportunity. You have, think about Dolos. We have been blessed with one opportunity that open up a door for many other opportunities.

We take advantage of each opportunity. We never play. So this is the outcome of squeezing out as much as you can out of each opportunity. We still squeezing out of one opportunity, game. Yes. This is still, we're still on the same opportunity. From when we sat down and said, let's figure this out. It's still from the same one opportunity, but it lasted infinity.

And we keep going. That's why I say it all the time. You can't complain about the things that you would be asking God for if you didn't have them. So like the blessings that we have and the people coming up to you asking for for pictures and you know i mean the things you got to do being up for all the hours that y'all was up the day and all that if you didn't have that this is what you would be asking god to bless you with you know what i was thinking about that shit from like all different angles too right it's like when you say you you take them pictures or you had that conversation or you meet that fan

where you don't know if that was they jerked if they ever just was watching you like god i just want to meet that that's real you get what I'm saying you don't know what that meant to them on the other side that's not I judge it all

because I just treat people the way I would have wanted the people that I looked at like they're looking at me when I was their age as young people

if I was a kid and I saw Martin walking through my neighborhood how would I have wanted Martin to embrace me if I ran up on them that's the type of mentality

that I had with dealing with people because you never know like people see you and we do it every day so we kind of lost that

of what it's like to be on the other side of that box. But when you put yourself, I remember. I still, I remember. I still, I remember this motherfucker late. And that's why it's like, I know that this shit is still a dream, you know what I'm saying? Because it's like, we still had a moments where you see people who would make you freeze

and be like, I'm a fan. I don't be a fucking who see it. Like, if I ever, like, that's, you know what the fuck. Come on, man. When I met AI, same thing. Yeah, you just, that just happened. You're reasoning, right? Oh my God.

You got to look at it like there, right? We all came from nothing when it's like, nothing, nothing. Zero. So we never lose sight of that one particular step of leap of faith that it all took for us to be like, damn, that's all it took. When soon we took that leap of faith, everything just came, all this came along with it.

So it's more so like, once you realize, where you come from and you realize where you're going. And this really ain't yours for real. We're just great at what we do. We continue to perfect our craft. God then gave each and every last one of us individually a talent or profession. But we give thanks and give thanks back by perfecting it because what we do help others. It helps us, but it helps multitudes of people.

So by us doing this, we are at service. Yeah, always. You see what I'm saying? We're at service where it's like, yes, this is also helping me because mentally in the space that we need to be in in order for us to be happy because we all love to do what we do. That's why he gave us the gift because at the end of the day, we're going to learn how to do it when we don't want to. We're going to learn how to do it when we love to do it. And when we do it, we all get in the realm where we don't think about life.

We're in our space and in our moment, and that's the moment that we're sharing with the high power that is like, you know what, I love this space. And if we continue to perfect this face, we only, we love it for ourselves, but when we look out it to the crowd, it's like, well, look at all the people that were touching with this one specific gift. And they need it. Like, they need it more than we do because they don't know how to express themselves. They do, but we are speaking for the multitudes of people. That's why they resonate with us. They like, he said everything I wish I wanted to say.

You know what? It's time to tell him. Hey, welcome back to the 85 South show. Talk your talk. Talk your talk. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Talk your coat, Kevin, man.

Man, I mean, is this really even a guest? This really, like, this family. He's a hot kick in here. Hey, man. But we're going to get through this shit right, bro. This is one of the coldest young actors in Hollywood right now, man. He has already solidified himself with an epic role. trail. It's going to definitely top five of all times for me when it comes to

motherfuckers bringing characters to life on that screen. Facts, fact. Man, he's taking over the TV, cable, movies, every way you look, man. We're respected in the industry, man, none other than Mr. Woody McLean is in. Yeah. Hey, man, what are you just saying something before we, when we was just chiming it up? You said you got in late. What you mean by then? Got in late?

Like, because I was backup dancing. So I started backup dancing when I was like, what? 23, 24. So I got a chance to see how the artist was treating certain people. So that's how I know how to move now. Because I got a chance to see how Tank would walk in the room and then it would just be like, everybody loves this, you know what I mean? Like he just has such great energy.

I was like, damn, I always want to be like Tank. I just want to show everybody respect. Then when I worked with Tank on New Edition, it was like he still came in with that. He treat everybody. I don't care if it's the janitor. But he treats you with respect, bro. So people like that, seeing it from behind the scenes was really dope. That's why I can do it and not be like...

Yeah, not to consume with what you because you used to. But you came from Vine, day. Devine, yeah, classic. Tell these people how monumental Vine was, bro, like, and what it did for our careers. I think it really set us up to learn how to, like, shoot our own content, write our own content. You know what I mean? Edit our own content. I think it really, like, sparked the creative side of us.

I feel like without Vine, I don't think a lot of us would be right here. You know what I mean? I say that too. No, real shit. We wouldn't be doing this. We had a space where it was for people who had a lot of time on their hands, but it was a lot of creatives. Let me ask you that. Let me ask you that.

Let me ask you all this because y'all both found success on that app. Now that the app is gone away, what was the, what was the secret to finding that moment in that six seconds? For real. What was the key to that algorithm? How you crack that code? You get six seconds to make this shit good. And y'all drop a hit after hit after hit. Motherfucking dropping 20, 30, 40 vions a day.

I don't, I don't, I remember. I'm talking about the first one before they went to the 15th and said. I was definitely to say, I was going to definitely say, I grew up, I grew up in the era where TV wasn't accessible. Cable wasn't accessible. So when we got access to Wi-Fi and the Internet, We had a certain space where this was our TV for people who would just be I didn't even know people was on their phones like that until I was introduced to it And then once I realized, oh, they ain't seen nothing like this before like I remember when I was like I'm about a show a roach

Yeah, but I'm like what you can hurt your career? I'm like nigger what career? I'm broke exactly this shit gonna either help or a nigger help it's not gonna hurt I'm fucked up all right now I remember seeing that when you was like singing to the roaches and shit. And I was grabbing them, holding them. And it was the point that people like- This nigga here was crazy. I just sing one of my, when I first seen this nigger in the iPhone store, in the Apple store. And that nigga yelled, I want me an iPhone with an Android screen.

So it won't brag on me. And everybody was nervous. What the fuck? Yeah. But see, this is why I don't get mad. Hold on. I got to tell you one of my favorite DC. What that niggas said, yeah, let me get some noodles, let me get some of that, some of that roo-woo.

Listen, before I walked in there, right, I was like, bro. Them my people, though, I grew up off that spot, like a baby. And I was like, they're not going to get mad at me for saying this. When I did it, and I was like, and let me get some of that roo-roo-roo, they were laughing. They were like, do you? You want some of this little job? I'm like, yeah, but they didn't know that I was, you know what I'm saying, creating. a space for myself

but to pick it back up on what you can't what we was talking about it was like nobody never seen this before and it was either what we was representing everybody's state you gotta think about it when I was doing Vine I was representing Georgia

so I just wasn't doing Vine bro it was like Vine when soon as you got popping on Vine you was the head of your state or that's how niggas know you Hey, boy, you got that Georgia boy? That nigga from South Carolina?

Oh, you following that nigga from Philly? Oh, man, you got to. So it was like I was a spokesperson for Georgia. I was speaking for all the hoods in Georgia, and then it just starts speaking for all the hoods around the world. You feel me? And once Vines kind of like faded, nobody was on Instagram. What was the trick for you saying?

What was the trick for you finding that little, like finding that pocket, you know what I'm saying? On Vine. Yeah, that six second thing, you know, the fifth. went to 15 at late on. I think it was really my boy, Splack, he introduced me to the wine. Spack or OG on that team?

Yeah, yeah. Like, I was telling him every day, I'm like, bro, I came out here to dance. I ain't trying to do no vine videos, but then I seen him going viral on Facebook. All the aunties were like 10 million views. World stars and shit. I was like, bro, I got to do the vines.

And then from there, I just started doing vines and people's like, oh, you can really act. And then from there, I started taking acting class. So what would you, that's how I found? This is the question for both of y'all. What would you say was the one that that was the first one that you saw and was like, what the fuck that one that made when you looked at them numbers and saw them numbers crazy?

What was that video for y'all, for both of y'all? I was on tour with a 7th Streeter, and I did this video in the roll. And I was like, you can't look and smell this. And I put my leg on the chair and I fake fell and hit my head. That shit went viral. That's crazy. I was about to quit the tour. I was about to get paid.

I'm about it. I'm not here. That said do nothing. That's it ain't do nothing. What was the one that broke the end? Man, I just kept doing stupid shit. It just felt like them folk love stupid shit. Yeah, yeah.

I was really surprised. Every time I did some shit, I was just like, y'all like that shit. Oh, I got put them on this shit. Why, when I did that shit in the store, I won't get mad at the creators when they do shit, right? My shit just ain't never harm nobody physically. It was just outbursts and doing like, it's crazy. It was like, element of surprise. But it was just like, I kept in.

fascinated with the shit because this was the same shit I used to get in trouble for and they was gravitating to it and I used to and it kind of like sheltered me a little bit because it was like I keep getting placed over here with the bad kids just by me having like outbursts and doing like little slit shit

but my peers love it and if they're cool with it why the teaching them keep tripping on me about this shit so I keep getting in trouble so it was like I'm just not going to be like funny nigger for real I'm only be funning with my peers but when the vine kicked out He opened that rim up where I was like, man, fuck my teachers.

Fuck all of them, bitch. Nigger, this the same shit that I got suspended out of school for and all this shit. Nigger yelling at the store, I used to do that shit on school field trips, nigga. Easy, yeah. On the bus. Be behind his bus driver. Bo, where you're going? He's about to, man.

Who's the head is this? I don't know why I just did that. That shit was just fun, though. It's fun. Yeah, I got you. It was fun, man. Yvine gave us a space to live. Yeah, that's dope.

Exactly. What would you say, what would you say, like, once you started taking acting classes, like, what would you say that click for you? You know what I mean? Yeah, like when you said, what was that moment for you, where you was like, oh, wait a minute, man, I, where you impressed yourself? When I got a new edition? For real? That was the one. Yeah, that was the one.

Yeah. That was the first one, right? That was the first one, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah. Like doing it.

Fantastic. Y'all did a fantastic job with that. That's probably the hand down like one of the big Bible picks. Yeah. I appreciate that. Like a long time. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free.

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Man, we really hanged with the crew. We was like with each other for like, I want to say, a month. Like just spending the night at Elijah Cribb, we'll spend a night at Keith Cribb. It was like a real sleepboat just getting to know each other. That's why it was so easy when it came to filming. You know what I mean? But the guys, like the real guys was on set. I don't think we knew how big they was back then.

I didn't know nothing about Bobby Brown like that. Yeah. That's crazy. But when I see the clip, though, I was dancing at the time. And then Fatima Robinson called me in to be the dance double for the Bobby Brown for the Whitney Houston movie. Angela Bassett directed out on Lifetime. So I was his like, dance double for that. And then from there, Fatima was like, you should get into acting.

Like, you know what I mean? She was like, who was you? I was like, dance. She was like, you should really get into it. So then from there, when the new addition, yeah, you got to do it. And then from there, that's when they called Fatima was like, yo, we're doing the new edition story. doing the new edition story, you should choreograph, and then she hit me and was like, yo, I think I found the Bobby Brown.

What are you should be doing? I ain't never really want to do Bobby first because I want people to just keep calling me Bobby. I was like, ah, I want to act, but I don't want it to be somebody. You know what you're asking. You did great because you didn't get typecast as a nigger who played a biopic. Right, right. That shit matters in this world. They be like, that's all they see.

Yeah. That shit might have worked in your favor though, because you really have no, you ain't have nothing to like mold it all up. Yeah, yeah. You didn't know who I was. You did what I'm saying? You did what I'm saying? I had a panic attack though.

Because it's like, Chico would talk about it all the time. This nigga was famous, famous when you didn't have access to motherfucker. And nobody has done it great for real, like to portray him for real. So it's more so like, and who Bobby Brown was, like, nigger, whoever gonna play him need to be good. Yeah, that shit. Yeah. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

I appreciate that one. Yeah. You did it. They go, Bobby. That's Woody. Nah, but when they first made an announcement, they were like, who this? Because they had a picture of me with a bowtide playing Bobby. It was like, oh, Bobby Brown is Woody.

I had like a bow tie with a corny smile. It was like this nigga don't look like Bobby Brown. He looked like B-O-B. That's all everybody was saying. Wow. That's crazy. I cannot not see that no more. I can't see that no more, Mike.

It was like, hey, there's a thing from Good Burger. Like, that's all I kept seeing in the time. God, damn. I was like, damn. Damn, but then when I did it, it was like, now everybody, like, you look exactly like Bobby Brown. I was like, bro, but back then y'all said it looked like Keenan Kell Mitchell, like what's going? Like, that's what I'm trying to figure out like how, how does it work? But you said you was, you almost had a panic attack.

Oh, yeah. Come on, come on. Break that down. So our producer, he let us see the first episode. So we've seen the kids and we all know how like great the kids was. And young Bobby Tyler, shout to Tyler. Tyler played Bobby like as the kid and he did so good, bro. And when I seen, I hit my acting because I'm like, yo.

The kid's so good. I feel like I'm not as good as him. I think people going to think I'm trash. She was like, you got to relax. I just kept, I couldn't breathe. I ended passing out. And then once the thing actually came out, and I passed out in my room, my hotel room.

Who the fuck fuck found you? Nicky, I woke up next morning. The nigga was Bobby Brown for real. There any of him. No, right? Nick, I had a panic attack, bro. The nigga said he woke up the next morning. The next morning, boy, you're stressing yourself.

Out, young, nigga. I mean, you understand. I try to see. You know what I mean? Everything we do, it got to be like perfect. You know what I mean? This being the first one. Then when the comments started coming, and people was like, yo, oh, this Woody kid is

Joe, he's Bobby Brown. Then for me, I was like, yeah, I'm that niggas. Yeah, yeah, they like, you know, yeah, I knew I was going to stop fucking passing out, yeah. I don't do that no more, I don't even read comments no more. Yeah, you shouldn't. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah.

That shit is not real. Yeah, yeah. But like, you know what I mean, the acting and being able to transition, like what you do on power, right? I mean, in the role that you took in that regard, becoming just straight, you know, gangster with it. Like, do you have certain elements that you can go back to to tap into to mojue for any character? Or do you just go off when they give it to you now, I'm going to go find somebody or something to kind of help me become what it is I need to become? I think I, that's a good question, bro.

I don't know what I'll be doing, bro. I feel like when you walk in your purpose, you just doing that, walking in your purpose. your purpose. So I don't really overthink that part. Okay. You know, and whatever character it is, I read it, you know what I mean? I'll study it, but then from there, once I get on set, I'm just go for what you know. Yeah, I ain't overthinking it. I'm just being a vessel at that

point. You know what I mean? I let the floor bring whatever it is, and I... You got a clip that's going crazy right now. What's the show you play the cup? I did a movie Desperation Road with Garrett Hutland and Mel Gibson.

I played the sheriff in that one. Yeah. On Twitter, they then made the little, I guess the, what's the little shit? The GIF? Yeah. You on there. I'm happy. I was just thinking.

Switch what Mike out? Come on, man. Fight me. Are you going to send the bell for big, nigga now? Oh, huh. Oh, my. Hey. Oh, my good.

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We are inside the black actor studio today. We asked nothing but educated questions. So would it. In your portrayal of Bobby Brown. Now, top this shit, right? Now look, because I know we all go through it. You don't read the script. You done did an audition.

You ain't get the role. Mm-hmm. But then you see some shit on TV or one of these platforms, and then you remember the lines. And this nigga saying, has it been a role that you, like, audition for it? Did you see it? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

It don't bother me, though. And, though, that's going to be crazy, no shit. You're like, oh, this is who they fit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it worked out, though. When I'm watching it, though, I'm like, yeah, I see why they pick, though. No care. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I would have did it differently. I'll do that. I'll do that. Yeah, happy. got a role that you read and didn't quite get, and then it ended up, you know, saying no to it, and then it came out and being something that was successful? Nah.

There ain't been a day, and you ain't got there yet? Nah. I thought he's going to fuck you up. You were like, yeah, I was almost Spider-Man. Nah, yeah, that'd have been crazy. That'd be cool. That would be crazy. Because a black man was a cartoon.

Yeah, yeah. A lot of actors say that. Like, when you hear what roles was meant for certain people, like for example Will Smith was supposed to be Neo in the Matrix You know what I'm saying? No type of situations

You ain't got to yet No, not you guess It's going to happen Yeah, it's going to happen You know what I mean Because you're supposed to be Neo in the Matrix Neo in the Matrix

Yeah Eddie Murphy was supposed to be Mike Lowry I heard that Oh yeah So you know what I'm saying Like just getting to the point of

you know When you have to turn down Rose like do you have anything that you like I'm not doing that don't even send me that or you just open to whatever man I'm open bro for me it open yeah what's for me is gonna be dope anything I've ever been a part of it's been dope like you not and that ain't no like ego like you pop your shit nigga pop your shit nigga you wanted them next thing pop it yeah I remember I remember Wood Harris we was on set and then we went up the uh with Harris and he was like yo what you think about the new edition joint and he sat there he was like all I make is classics

and walked away and we started screaming I was Like, that's hard, because what Harris do, all he do is classic. All he do is classic. Him and Leon. Easy. Classic. Classic. Yeah, Leon and been in everything, bro.

Leo was a temptation and a fire. Easy. Easy. Fact. Classics, bro. And he was the new nigger. Yeah, nigger. He came and took over the whole group.

Yeah, man. Yeah, it's certain black actors. Yeah, what cold, man. So, go ahead. What's a role that you want to play? Because when you said, Spider-Man game, I can see that. I can see that.

Because they gave the nigger a fucking cartoon. Yeah. Spider-Man Mexican now. Man, fuck that. They got one for every race. They had nine white boys to play Spider-Man, and when it's the nigger turn, you go digital. Bitch.

Yeah. You could have went digital on the second, niggins. We won't would and play Spider-Man. I can see that now. What the fuck? I can just see you getting shocked. Going crazy. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I'll tell you, I said, I'll do Greenlander. I'll do Greenlander. Ooh. You know, I want to say Jace Fox, so you know Morgan Freeman and Batman, like he was playing like Alfred. Was he playing in October? Yeah, but no, but the, I can't think his man. His version was like something else, but his son.

No, no, no, no. So like why he was fucking. Batman and stuff. Batman out in the street, his son was coming in and taking Batman stuff and doing his own thing with it. I think his name is Jason. I don't think Batman in real super. You don't think so? Uh-uh.

He's just a rich nigger with gadgets. On bullshit. I mean... He's just... His house underground. I mean... You can... You're on a waterfall.

No, when you can be that... Superbillers and shit, you're a real superhero. When you were? Fuck around and beat for red that nigga. You know... You built all that shit. He might be... You got to be...

Ziplining? Batman with the first nigger ziplin. They said... Elon Musk on like, like... I don't know how many satellites. They own like 70% of that bitch Satellites in the sky. You know what you can be as far as a superhero

With that type of hacks up? He owns like 70% of the guy. The satellite's the satellites in the sky, bro. Damn. So that's some Batman type shit. Like that's the type of money in that. That's that money. That's that money.

You don't even count that type of money. That ain't even money. I remember I saw a meme where they had like Jeff Bezos's wealth in rice like actual rice where each grain of rice was $100,000. Brer, Jeff Bezos rice stack was like this hot,

my name. The nigger right stack was this high that motherfucker pulled off 17 pieces of rice. It was like, yeah, this is a Lamborghini. This is how much you still had left. It was ridiculous, bro, when you put it in that type of perspective. What do you do when you accumulate all that type of money? We'll never know his niggas.

I don't know about to say so. Nah, I said to my head, that shows funny as hell. I'm telling you, I already wrote the number down and put it in the save. If I ever get to this number, you will never see. me again. She's going to stop.

No. It don't matter where the fuck I go. The next time you see me, I'm going to have a beard between my motherfucking leg. You're going to be Sammy-Sose. Nigger, I'm going so far underground. He's going to unzip itself.

It's been me the whole time. I'm like, hot. Five. Yeah. So hot a bit. Same color soy white turkey meat. Yeah. Same color snow white turkey meat.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know, bro. I think I won't want to play a villain. I just want to play like a charismatic, like, you know. Like the mask or something. Yeah, like just a rebellion-ass nigg. You know what I'm saying? Man, when you play the villain, though, you can just do with it.

That's what I'm saying. You got free range. You're already a piece of shit. That's what I'm saying. He's like, now I get to live out of being a piece of shit. Exactly. People love that. Fuck you, motherfucker.

Yeah. But you got to do it like in a creative way. Like the Joker, this motherfucker, this character be brilliant than a motherfucker. Man, the Joker was so diabolical in the dark night. Oh, hard. This motherfucker blew up an hospital. So I don't want to tap into nothing that's evil. You got to really, as an actor, you got to like, you know what I'm saying?

It's more so like the enemies was always a good guy. He's just getting back at people he felt like that didn't wrong. You feel me? So it's like, fuck you niggas. Yeah, I'm going to start to fight. I ain't know bad. Yeah, man, I've been holding this shit here for a minute. I want to whip somebody at him.

Easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck that shit. I'm on the same way. Yeah, I just, I look at some of those roles and I'd be like, man, that's crazy how you, what mindset you had to get in to even become, like, Jack Nicholson and the Shining, like, to be able to become that, and then they say cut, and you got to go back to being who you are. Like, that's crazy. Yeah, Jim Cameron played the crazy white man the whole time.

The whole time. He made them folk. He was into his trailer, right? He was just laying down. They were like, Jim. He was like, Jim is not in here. Yeah, yeah. They were like, you're an hour late, Jim.

He was like, I'm not coming. They had to pick this nigga up and carry him to set. He was in character, bro. He was an hour late on set. He's there and would not walk. They had to carry him on set. See, they can do that. We can't do that.

Yeah, no. You're done. Get the other nigger ready. This thing out of you. Yeah, we do it. Hey, Chico, this nigga, all really dressed. Yeah, yeah. He got that one, Jerry.

Nah, hell not. You haven't even seen them. You need to have Tris the whole town. Like, how do you manage that, would it, like the different personalities on the set? Like, you know what I mean? That's what a lot of people don't understand. When you work on these sets, there's so many different personalities. How do you, you know, I mean, navigate that, you know what I'm saying?

Being yourself while also being somebody else as far. your character and still keeping you, you know what I mean? I'll be having fun. For real? This shit like when we was kids playing make believe, so it's like that for me. You know what I mean? You start doing shit around the house as a kid having fun to mama smack you, then you'd be back to normal. Okay.

So it's like the same for me, you know what I mean? You're making a dick smack you on set. Yeah, I'm back to normal. Nobody. Woody. Don't flop me. I'm already here. Is this here?

It's not in here. Right. I'm like, uh-oh, you do that shit now. Now, I really, I really like to create a back story for the character. Dope. Like with Kane right now, it was like, I knew I was going to have to hate Tariq for all these. I'm like, how am I going to hate this nigga for four years? So I had to like sit down and figure out like what's going to work for Kane.

So I was able to go back and create this story of like when Kane was a kid, like he was getting molested, right? Because that happens in the black community, but we don't really talk about it. We kind of, shit just happened and we don't really talk about it. But the only person that was there to save him was his mama. That's why he's such a mama's boy. You know what I'm saying? And he don't remember what the dude looked like, but he remember what he smelled like.

You know what I mean? He smelled exactly like Tariq. So that's why I hate him so much. That was like, that's what I had to have in my head every time I go to set. What's so crazy is when he came and did wild and out, he was nervous and shit. So I was like, man, everybody act like they don't like you.

I'm just going, we're just going to have a beef on the show. You know how niggas really thought I didn't like this movie. Like, it's to this day that he was like, bro, man. You know his daddy a gangster, man. You better start playing with you. I'm like, bro, we was playing. It was fun, yeah.

That was good enough job, but making that thing it look like I was like. No, Michael Hart, Michael told him, he going to whoop his head. He should have whoop your ass. We'd be having fun, bro. Like, you being around all of these legendary guys, what would you say that you got the best advice from, some of the best advice from, in regard to you said,

tank, I mean, on the music side, Angela Bassett. I think Kevin Hart. Word. I remember I was doing something on his last, how loud network called Stories with Cab, because I used to take his stand-up and kind of recreate it and, like, play out the scenes and, like, black and white. And I remember him pulling up on me,

he was, like, the only person I can, like, destroy your career is you. So, like, that just always stuck in my head. So every time I'm doing, like, different business meetings, I'm always thinking, like, all right, cool, I don't want to ruin this. I don't want to be the reason why this doesn't work. So I'm always having that in my head. You know what I mean? Who do you want to work with, like, that you think could challenge you in the way?

Because one thing about, hold on, get y'all self together. Yeah, yeah. What's wrong with y'all? Baby lines. I'm telling you. When acting is such a fun, a profession, especially when you get around people that can challenge you to make you better. See, a lot of people think, like, it's not an arrogance when a muffling be like,

oh, I'm a great actor. No, you have to have that confidence knowing that you're a great actor, but put me around some better actors that can even be greater. And I can challenge them as well to them, for them for. them to continue to keep bringing you that A game. Who do you want to see yourself in the scene with that you feel like can challenge you and you can challenge them? Because as an actor, we always want to be in that best scene where we're like,

I know you're going to bring that shit out. Yeah, Viola Davis, Eddie Murphy. Okay. Don't cheat. Don't cheat. He hard. Dog. Nigel, you seen trash.

Earl and Goldman. Grashness. Oh, man. Hard. Hey, devil in the blue dress. Hard. Dar Cito, one of them one of them. He slept.

I feel like a lot of people don't give him his flow. And he don't get me to tell for it. Yeah, no, he doesn't. He let that shit show in his work, bro. You know, it's certain characters, man. Certain people do, like, my favorite movie character ever just was played by Samuel Jackson, O'Dell Robby and Jackie Brown. Like, that nigga and Jackie Brown, like, if there was, I can audition to be that nigga today and know the whole movie, every line he had,

just because it was like watching a real nigger like that's the thing about when you somebody is a great actor it's like you become that person to where when you see him if that nigger walked me here with that wig on i'd be like oh they'll fuck samuel yeah that's what you said that now all right oh shit we own it's something now what's your favorite actor actresses in the scene where you like oh that shit fat he went crazy if you could redo one if you can redo any scene classic scene That you will kill. That I'll kill. Denzel Training Day. Oh, everybody did that. I love that. But if I got the ultimate, like, you give you to K-top this, you ain't ready. I do, love.

I know you got a good one, you got. You got it. I know this digger got a good one, what you got, what you got? I'll tell you every line of OG Bobby Johnson had. For real? Every last one of them. Yeah. He got your son.

This still ain't car. What? Jimmy's only 10 years old. Yeah. They don't ask no question. All right. Y'all, they're going to wrong for this. But I'm not wrong.

I just sit and watch and I studied this shit was good. I even said it because he made me say it. I was like, damn, this shit good. You were good and Julian going to get a lot of credit. Ready. Radio? Hard. Radio, nixon?

I felt sorry for that, man. Yeah. When they lock that nigga up, I'm like, bro, they don't put a nigga like that in the back of the police car up. How you do a nigga like that's, bro? Bro. He's like, when you get that radio? He was, he, he, he, he put that in the back and pull the lead car, bro. Hey, man.

He did they did that. He called too. He'll get a little credit. You said, he called, he called. He was called in Jeremy McGuire. Yeah, Jeremy McGuire. For real, but like, man, that's, that scene, just, and Jackie, bro, I don't know if. And Jackie Brown, I don't know if y'all ever seen Jackie Brown, bro.

But if you haven't, you got to watch it, man. Like, here's the scene with him and Robert De Niro, who was another one of the greatest actors that I believe. And he, they're going through a video of guns. And this nigga explaining the guns to him. And they get to the AK-47, that dick said, da-da-du-da. There it is.

AK-47, the very best day is when you absolutely, positively, got to kill every motherfucker in the room, except no substitute to you. Straight to him. I'm like, man, this nake. It's incredible, man. Yeah. And then the way this shit come on, like,

it just makes it seem like these were some real people. I remember watching that shit as a young nigga, like, oh, my God. Like, it's just certain movies. Like, my favorite movie ever is The Last Dragon. Okay. But just watching that time in cinema, if you were. That's my favorite movie. That's my favorite movie ever, bro.

Like, I used to watch that. That was my babysitter. My mama could put that shit on and leave for hours. And I sit and just keep rewining and keep rewind. What's your favorite movie? What's the difference between the movie? back then and movies now? Well, to me, back then, I think the messaging

was a little bit deeper for us as black people because we didn't get to make as many movies back then. Like, The Last Dragon, really, to me, it got the message for all black men in it. Like, they used karate as the synopsis for it, but the reality is, you got the glow. It's in you. It's already in you.

Can't nobody take it from you. You already got it. You just got to look within and get it. And that's why at the end of the movie, when that nigga was dunking his head down in the water, He's remembering all this shit that went and nobody else was there but him. And then when he came back up, who's the master? I am.

Because I got the globe, nigger. It's already in you. We already got everything that we need God. Give it to you already. You just got to tap into it. You got to find it. You know what I'm saying? And that's just what it is.

And I think that message was hit deep even as a kid. You can't get nowhere being a hater. Yeah. Showing enough really ain't held. Nothing but hate for like he was just hating on this nigga for no reason. Brother, that nigga was hating because they was bawling. That nigga was hating because he had real curly hair and his dad had a balling ass pieces of shop.

His little brother had juices in the city could do everything. This nigga just riding around looking for this nigga. Yeah, all this. Yeah. Bullets with this, man. Just had to be bullets with his teeth. He was going on his way to hate.

I always like thinking like, when I hear some shit, it just like, it's a stick in a platter. multiple situations. I remember when they when like Max B first got mad and the, you know what I'm saying?

When he first fell out, that nigga came on World Star and was like, see, that's all they try to do is make a nigga don't look good. That's all.

They want you to be in the back. They don't want a nigga to look good. When you are wavy nigger, niggas ain't going to like that shit. And I was like, that shit means so much. Yeah.

Because you can apply that to any situation. Yeah. Like, that's just one of them life lessons that, you know, just being exposed to different outlets and shit like that, just how you pick up on certain shit. But that last dragon, I remember watching that shit as a kid. And I was just like, the first time I seen that shit,

that's what really stuck out. Like, that nigga just hate that nigga for nothing. Because that nigga ain't fought with nobody. All he did was practice his karate. He didn't want no pussy. He treated that lady with respect. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

You get what I'm saying? Like, he wouldn't even, he like, he knew he wasn't even where he was supposed to be as the last dragon. He wasn't even out there like flexing on a nigga. He let so much shit slab, bro. Yeah. The nigga was in the motherfucker movie theater. The nigga threw a punches at his face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, those movies... Hold, I got to tell you this one, you said Samuel Jackson, or they're a robert.

I think his most underrated role ever is when he played King, Daddy, Tatt, and menace to society. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Remember that shit? And they didn't even really show this nigga face. Killed that motherfucker scene, man.

Because if you go back and look at it, the nigga owed him some money, like he didn't really owe them. Yeah. But he was like, man. I can give you that motherfucking money. I told you I paid you what I paid your monk ass and I feel like he said what he suck my dick yeah yeah okay what

you want me some money motherfucker hell no he had you yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know I mean like like those type of classic roles for us and it's that as black people, we all had those scenes burned in our mind. Like, you know what I'm saying? When you think about just the classic movies that, you know what I mean? You could watch now and still had the same type of reaction that you had watching it when you originally watched it. You know what I'm saying? Like, and shit, you play Bobby Brown.

Like one of my favorite roles that Bobby Brown is an incredible actor, bro. Like him and Thinline Between Love and Hate. Like, bro, that's one of my favorite. for that nigger was so cool. Yeah, he was living hate with that dude. Yeah, he was hard as hell of that shit, man. You know what I mean? Like, so you being an actor now and kind of being a new generation, like,

do you have the desire to have that staple? I mean, you already do, but like the one that people are going to look back on and say, man, couldn't nobody have done that, but you, like, that role that, you know what I mean, that you like, man, do you look at it as a situation where, you know, you, you kind of can have that and then be stuck in it, like you said. But then you also can do it, and then it just be one of those, like your Malcolm X for Denzel or, you know what I'm saying,

your Pulp Fiction for Samuel Jackson or whichever that type of role is. Like, do you desire to have that type of staple role, or do you just want to just do as much as you can and just build the legacy of just quantity? You know what I'm saying? I just want to keep going down my path. Yeah. I can't put that much pressure on me.

Right. You know what I mean? I can't be like, dang, I need to get the training day. Right. I can't do that. It's going to be too much pressure. So I just kind of let things happen. Yeah, that's no one I mean.

Like, I don't force none. I don't force no situation, bro. When it happened for me, it happened. You got to speak them two lines like you got hold a monologue in that motherfucking, what? Easy. Because we remember the times when we didn't have it, bro. Yeah. Remember the times when we didn't have it.

And people don't understand those acting roles don't come like back to back and back. Once you go on a spree, you got to take that spree and show them folk how value you is. So now they're going out of what the role, right? Gotta show off. You got to go with the spree, but then that creates a space where they trust your creativity. Now when you come to them with some shit, they are more so know what you're already capable of doing. So they're not going to second guess. Like, all right, well, let's try it out.

When you don't have enough punches in the game and experience, if you come with them with some shit, it's hard selling some shit. You got to go get out there and get some rap. You got to rap. How was it for you when you got the call for Bobby Brown? You know what? You played the barber. I played the barber. I was excited.

I was excited because I was like, you know what, I'm amongst my peers and we're doing this together. You feel me? Like the movie was so great that we had to watch it for three days. That nigger is the nigger that vandit the gumbick. You feel? Yeah.

Yeah. He's at one look at some holes. We all looking at the whole thing. The whole shit, but I mean. You don't even know we getting that shit cut like that on purpose. Yeah. Bobby Brown, you know what I'm saying? You did the new edition thing and then boom, you know what I mean?

Like, so just being that great to be able to save mother now, we want to to see some more of this nigga right here like slim got it you know what i mean you got it so like i i watch you know the young niggas the you know the you to you know everybody and i think to myself like man i hope that we give the youngers the same grace that we gave the ogs and letting them be free to create and be who they are you know what i mean but we didn't have to them we didn't get to see their early shit yeah by the time we were you know what i mean coming up they was already good at the shit. When we saw Ice Cube and Boys in the Hood,

we didn't know that nigga was that motherfucking good. Yeah. We were like, when the fuck did this nigga learn how to do this shit? Because you got to keep in mind, like, we didn't thought about none of this post-production night. Not that this shit was not last year or some shit over, you know what I mean? Over two years, we're just thinking like, damn, this shit knew. They must have just did this shit.

Right. This thing is, and he all-ish-in-lawed-in-in-jubing. He didn't drop like three classic. albums in a row. And we're like, we ain't never seen this shit before. Right, right. Then he did the Anaconda movie. He was going crazy.

But, see, that's my thing. He went on a run. Yeah. That level of us not being able to see it gave them the ability to be able to figure it without us being able to see it. But now, but did the thing though? Without all the access, we're watching everything a nigga doing. I was definitely saying, but now it's more harder because back then we didn't have

that much access. We don't know what they doing behind the scene. So, like, when you seem like, yes, Icekew was a hell of an actor. But nigger, you ain't see him in no shit like that Or others in that lime like like that So it was like they're the only one Now? No, I mean, the wood is in D.C. on flies like that?

And they only got to do is take their phone and show you. They don't get what fuck about us? So it's like... That shit crazy, bro. But giving the grace, that's why I say I hope that we give the great ones the grace to know that, man, you got to kind of take that old mentality And let a nigga really develop into the greatness

because now it's so easy to access the celebrity, if you will. You know what I'm saying? The bee, you know what I mean? The motherfucker could just pick their phone up and say whatever they want to say to you. But that what makes it different, and you can tell in, like, when you speak of like the done, you just got to be a student of the craft.

We can't worry about how much access niggas got. We have to show them why the access don't matter. Right. You just overly consumed. Nobody could have done a Bobby Brown like that. That's why I did. Everybody played their role, nigger.

That's why it showed how Greek they was. If let them niggins would have just put the niggas right before y'all who almost had the part. Man, that shit wasn't it dead, that game. It would just have been another biopic, and they would have been like, cool. They had to put the niggas in there who really want to do it, and it showed when God got the light on you,

and you take it serious, and you want to show people, you're great. That shit going to come out, game. That shit is going to come out. See, that one of them ones, man. Like the holidays and shit coming up, everybody about to be around the family, man, that's one of the ones you pull up.

You put on again. And it's so many that you're not going to put on that you make you appreciate the ones that you do because, man, I fucked around the other day and was on YouTube watching that Michael Jackson, man, my man Flex did Michael Jackson. Hey, that shit was funny. It ain't been one Michael Jackson.

And that's Jason Weiss. And whoever that last-skinned nigger was that played a little old, he did good. Yeah, he killed him. You know he died right after. I didn't know that man. He didn't get a chance to sit. That just, hey, what?

Yeah, bro. He was so believable, bro. He was believable as fuck. And I broke Flint, man. And I broke Flint, man. Me too, bad. When I remember one time, I didn't even know where movie it would, right? I'm just gone.

I'm flicking through Chalick's had to get a bag for that. And you remember him where he was walking in the park? Yeah, man. I'm like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. Hell and motherfucking Anthony Mackey is Tupapapap. My nigga. Classic.

Yeah. I'm Tupac. Yeah. I'm Tupac. Like, no, you're not. He's an incredible act. He's an incredible actor. There's just some roles that just, you just, they don't fall in the right time.

You know that hurt? Hell yeah. That shit hurt. That shit hurt. We got to understand what he was doing. Like, I grew up off a one-on-one. Hell, yeah. Flex was the ultimate, cool father figure.

You want him to be everything. When he did my congestion, bro, they didn't care about none of that shit he did before. Hold on it. Think about it. Yeah, that can happen. That's the risk you run of being an actor. But this is the thing as an actor, like, when we get a lot of chances. Not saying that he couldn't have done it, you feel me.

But when you get into a position where you're like, all right, we have to start making decisions where they're going to enhance us or we're doing a favor for our friend. Right. But still, it's like, all right, nigger, what is favor going? Like, you need, this shit need to be a stepping stone for you, nigger. Everybody need to be going up and helping each other. We can't put ourselves in a position where it's like, I don't know. position where it's like I know I'm not turn down road but I'm like ah that shit ain't helping me like no it ain't helping me and it's like we can't put ourselves in a

position where it could probably hurt our career versus us saying we want to be challenged yeah but this might not be the right challenge you should what I'm saying like it's a challenge but give it to a nigga who might deserve this challenge like no you play my chance yeah I ain't gonna do it I appreciate you thinking about a nigga but I ain't playing my challenge you sure I ain't playing by a guy I ain't planned. You see, are you okay? I ain't playing.

Michael Jackson. What if it was one of the situations where you ain't get to decide? He might decide the fire pitch a deal and you don't get the pick. And you got to think about he's on high.

He's fire on that time where it's like, now you got the first look there. You know about the first look there. You're the first look at Michael Jackson. Yeah, you got to play it. You've got to play it. He probably like, no.

They're like, come on. Come on. Put this shit on. If that's the case, I know he was looking at the makeup people when they finished, like, man, fuck! He said, you know that first paragraph. He got the first option. When that niggins died talking, he was like, I just don't believe it. I was like, oh, this Michael!

He was locked in, though. He was locked in. He did take the serious. He did take the serious. Don't count. I love Flick. But if Mike was alive with it, though, that's what we got to find. out, Michael, nobody did it better than Flex.

Exactly. That's really all that matter. Not people trying to claim you, but Flex got it right. No gap. No gap. It might have been a negative, but like that. Right. I want flex.

I want flex now. Give me flex. Give me flex. Yeah. I want them now. I want them now. Flex, Washington, now. Give me flex.

At my face. Where's my monkey? Like, you're sure about this? Boy, I'm going to flex. Yeah, I think it is, brother. I love it. How did Bobby feel about your portrayal to him? Did you ever have that conversation with him?

No, he said he loved it. That's dope. From the jump. You know, some people would be like, let me see. And so the moment you start doing it, he, you know what I'm saying? You get in the game from him. He embraced it. Yeah, as soon as he seen me, we was in dance rehearsal.

So he seen me do, I think it was either my prerogative for every little step. He was like, yep, that's me. He was like, all you need is the gap. So I had to go get like the fake teeth done or whatever, we was good. That's what it is. Yeah, you know, working with 50, man.

Like, we all was down in Shreveport for the, you know what I mean, the humor, the humor homie. And they was looking for you. Yeah, that was working. That's the only reason he wasn't there. But just, you know, speak to him as a, As a, you know what I mean, a leader in regards to the film space, because he's also doing something different than what we knew him for.

You know what I mean? We know him for being one of the biggest rappers ever, but now he's shifted into a whole new space. So just speak to, like, who he is in that space. We all know him as the rapper, but, you know, not many people get to see what he looked like on that other side. You know, y'all got a whole universe. No, 50, bro.

And he's a genius. He's a genius, bro, and he's really about his business. So I appreciate everything he's doing. He's really making superstars. You know what I mean? While a lot of people overlook us, because I ain't worked for a year after Bobby Brown. I was just sitting around, chilling. You know what I mean?

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Like, you really got to go fish for it. You got to, bro. You just did. Think about that. You just did by the Brown, right? You just made all this fucking noise, nigga. All this fucking noise. The Asian sweat, they be, you're going to have so many opportunities to come across the day.

Y'all just made so much fucking noise and you ain't get a gig in a year. Nothing. Because I think the other side of the other side. don't understand how big it was for the culture. You know, I've known me and my manager went to the Essence Festival at the time, and everybody was taking pictures. And then we got in the car.

She was like, well those are your cousins? I'm like, what? But she white? Yeah. Oh, man. She called an agency. She was like, oh my God, this is crazy. Like, we've got so many.

I was like, you don't know how big new this show. We did 29 million views. For them not to understand, like, how big it was in the culture, it was crazy, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, like I said, man, being around the guys and seeing them, and I went to see him in Vegas. What's crazy is I met him in New Orleans, man. And it always blows my mind.

I'm going to ask you this question, too. Like, has anybody ever recognized you before I even tell a story? Have anybody ever recognized you? And you was like, nigga, you know me? I think when I was a dancer. For real? Yeah, yeah, that was the first time. Because rocking with CB for five years, they knew all the dancers.

So when people just pulled out, oh, my God, you were the Chris Brown dancing. That was like the first time of understanding what that was. He can be dancing, not just dancing. He said Chris Brown. You dance by him. You got to be a mutant a little bit. He got 12. He got 12 favorite dancing.

It's the same knick. You got to be a mutant. Chris go back. You don't have no new niggies dance by him. All niggas are mini Chris Brown. Chris different, bro. Chris is different, bro. Chris really like, I didn't know.

That's what I'm saying. That's why I'd be like, I just followed a path. I had no idea it was going to bring me to Chris. You know what I mean? I didn't grow up dancing. I learned how to dance in college. Because all the women, all the women love niggas on stage. I was like, we're in school with them every day.

Y'all like this? So I spent the whole summer learning how to dance. And that just brought me to L.A. So bring you back. Bring a back, nigga. You're learning how to dance. Yeah. So take us through that process.

If you learn how to dance and then you get with Chris, and then now he's molding you guys into choreographers. Chris was molding me really to play Bobby. I don't even think we knew that. You see what I'm saying? So when I seen the clip of Bobby dancing, I was like, Oh, that's Chris. I've seen this before I know how to do that.

So that's why that role was a lot easier for me. That's some of where you chose to yourself how to dance. You don't know how to dance because this shit means cute. How do you teach yourself how to dance? How do you teach yourself how to dance? I get addicted to learning shit. Like, you know what I mean? Like the art side.

I hated school. What was your first move? I know it was ugly. Your go-to, like, I know they're going to. Nah, we did like a little wing, like because the dance crew was strikers. Shout to the strikers, uh, Stryker, FAMU. If you know about the strikers, we was... You went to the FAM?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my first, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nick, ACC, you do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I originally went to FAMU for the marching band. I play Sousaphone. Okay. You know, damn, that's the shit, that's around the one.

That's the big, the big, yeah. Oh, okay. So I've seen Drumline. That's what made me want to go to college. You know what I mean? So every time I see Nick, I'm like, yo, you really changed my life. Right.

Like, that's some real shit. So I always want to do movies that's going to, like, do the same thing. So you went in the band before college? Now I got in the band of high school. Dromba came out of school. Okay, cool, cool. You know what I mean? And then that's when I learned how to play the tuba.

Then I got a full scholarship to go to FamU and then from there I'm doing that. Then I learned how to dance. And then from there, I just kept moving on. Anything I want to learn, bro, I'm learning. I'm producing now. I'm producing music now. So I'm always in the studio. Pop your shit.

That's dope. You know what I mean, yeah. That shit was like, but back to what I was going to say about the new audition. I'm in New Orleans. I'm walking through the hotel. I'm like, man, oh, shit, nigga, they go Ronnie from New Edition. So I could ready go to say what's up to him. He was like, oh shit, Chico Bean, what's up, nigga?

I'm like, nigga, you know me? Yeah. He was like, yeah, come to the show tonight. And I'm just saying, you know, I'm like, all right, man. But the nigga made show, I get my number so you can come, man. I came to the show and that was my first time seeing what fame looked like. That's fame, like I never, like, I'm talking about. Yeah, I'm talking about.

Women who, your mama, your auntie and all them, but think about them, these are the people that some of the people that still didn't even get a chance to see them when they were young. They still living out they fucking dream. Exactly. Exactly what I was talking about. And I just went recently when they got a residency in Vegas

and I went to see them and chop it up with them and I just sat back and they had a meet and greet and I just sat, you know, in the back and just watch. Because we do these, now we're in that space. like this is what we do but to see 40 years 40 years of success and we're still not on their level and they're still doing it and it was just like seeing like the patience level the the way that they interacted with people 40 years i'm like man this is i went to their show amazing i went to they show they was in they was in state farm right there probably had to be like 40 000 people in it did

Right. They were like, make some noise if you're, if you're born in the 90s. It was like, ooh. They were like, make some noise you born in the 80s. They were like, ooh, whoa. They were like, make some noise you born in the 70s. They were like, wow. They were like, make some noise.

If you was born in the motherfucker fucking 60, that shit said, huh? I was like, boy, every bit of 58 plus in this motherfucker. I'm about 50 years plus. They got 40,000 people out, and they still know how to have a good time. I'm just admiring, like, bro.

The showmanship, bro. It's crazy the times that we used to live in and how we're not like, the younger generation don't appreciate. None of these shit, bro. It's too easy. None of the, it's too easy. I'm watching people having a time of their life.

Every little step. I'm talking about women. I'm like, you still want to get that diggas some pussy. That's crazy. That will tonight. Like, you sit. Three want to get a nigga. That shit don't work.

I'm talking about, that's the wheel. Bobby and Ronnie and Ricky and Mike and Will. And just watching them in Vegas, man, I'm sitting at the show and watching and knowing of these dudes, these dudes is just running through hits. I mean, just hit after hit after. Then they go into the individual shit. And then they go into the individual hits. And, man, that nigga Rob Presline came out and saying sensitivity, bruh. Man, that nigga.

had the whole, I'm talking about the ladies got up out of their seat and was damn near. I'm talking about trying to pull the stage down. Girl, I know it's been saying since you had a rain. I'm like, man, that's crazy. You can only hope to have that

type of longevity, but to see how that is handled like, it's crazy. And when you think about the fact that them niggas got a movie that y'all did, like that's you're entrenched in history. They changed my life. They did of boy group ever.

Yeah, they was first, man. Well, they didn't first of their generation. Then new kids on the block, all of them niggins and all that. That was the fake no edition. That was the friend's shit. New edition was necessarily. The back streetbook. The new kids on the block was friends.

I ain't even going to lie snucking to one of them back street boy, motherfucker. For real? For real. You had a t-shirt too? I want to be a food. Hey, man. The white bitch is cry. Yeah.

They faint, too, yeah. They just be, it's just fun seeing cry. And that's another thing, man. When you think about the accomplishments, bro, you. Tell me, why I ain't. You host the TRL, my nigga. I remember watching TRL when the Backstreet Boys and Incink and Eminem used to come. They used to have to close the curtains on the windows so the people outside wouldn't go crazy and pass out of the shit.

Like that was, you know what I mean? Just that historical type of element of what we've been able to do. All of us have been able to do is just unreal when you really sit back and think about it, bro. Like, shit is great. What's the one thing? Y'all feel like y'all haven't done yet that you want to do? Man, make that, well, for me, for us, I say make that classic, that movie, that classic comedy. Because I know it's coming, yeah, we got it.

It's on the way. Like, that's the thing that, you know, and making some music, like us actually getting in the studio and putting something out because people have been asking us for that. for a decade. You know, I mean, like, fly, you know, fly always has been, because that's what he's, that's his first love, his passion. You know, we just know how to do it because we fuck with the movie. We musically acclaimed. We just love the music, but we didn't made so much music just as far as for, you know,

wild and out of what we do on stage just naturally, just getting in the studio and actually putting something to get, whatever it is. Like, just that body of work, I think that. That's hard. Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm a cartoon fan. I want to say cartoon junkie. If you make the right cartoon, you can make anybody sit down.

Yeah. They're going to have a good cartoon to sit down. No age range, yeah. You know what I mean? No age range with the cartoon, bro. They got to be, but it got to, like, you got to think about it. We were them kids that grew up all. Hey Arnold and Harker and all that shit.

They're with some wholesome, man, it's cartoon. Like, that whole. That's shit I grew up on, man. And we're just sitting there all day. Yeah, my cartoons with a life less. Especially, hey, Arthur, he's in a man with a stranger. Hey, what, Arthur had a little white potter. He was cool, let him do everything he want to do.

Little Bud Bunny. He was light-skinned, though, I think. But that mean, we got to, if we do it, like, they got to have that element of the shit that's missing. That theme song, man, that was so important on the cartoon, man. That theme song, you got to have that thing. That's why he loves Gracie's corn so much. Because of the theme music, like, you just love it.

I'm just as hard back there. You got to listen to the heart. Listen to the rhythm. Listen to the rhythm. Open up your heart. Open up your mind. They make things better by working together. Every mind you not need.

And it's gone through the art. They're believing yourself. And there's a place to start. And I say, hey, hey. What a wonderful time you need. But you can learn to walk and play. Yeah. And get along with each other.

That's what you know what it do? It gets you ready to watch the show. Yeah, you never forget it. Even if the show bullshit, they ain't talk about nothing. It don't matter. The show will it. And then guess what they do? Bring their beat back on with the credit.

You got that listen to the rhythm. You never forget that. That's stay with you for the rest of your life. That's right. I took my daughter, my daughter, and them on a little 16th birthday trip, I got to sing in one of the cartoons. I used to watch with all them when they was little.

And to see them go right back in the singing the thing was called SuperWire. It was about this little, came on PBS Kids. And he was a book reader. He was a super book reader. And then I started singing that song, and they all just immediately went back to being little girls. You know what I mean? That shit was crazy because you hear the right theme song

and it's going to take you back to your childhood. What's that one for you, Lowe? Were you here to just make you go right back there? Andy Griffin? Come on, man. Stop playing my man like that. That's crazy. I literally grew up in the greatest era of growing up in fucking human history.

Would you talk your talk? Nigger, every, I, bro, these theme songs are fucking burned into my mind. Like, ooh, like, like, motherfucking Thundercats and G.I. Joe and motherfucking Fred Flintstone, nigger. Niggas ston. Niggins stone. Yeah, that shit used to go so hard. We would be outside and hear that shit and be like, yeah. I mean

The Jetsons Oh yeah Come on man I can resonate with I didn't resonate with I ain't We grew up with the other TV show

with the greatest theme song in cartoons Hey man You got no robot made Bits and I ain't ate Scooby dude

You got a robot made Oh yeah Scooby dude You got a robot made I can't resonate this shit It's the hardest shit

Yeah Yeah Because we don't know If that was like A disco A disco or whatever Tigger Cut this shit off

Class. You stay on the highest flow. You run out of the gas. Go ahead and up. I'm going to take you to the gas station. I got you something. What are there right now? Just slat it.

Just slat it over here. We got some candy weed. Come on, bro. Oh, that's beautiful, man. To introduce that gas station, man. That's crazy. Take you out to the gas station, go, man. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Come on, baby. Come on, baby. You know I got you. You know I got you. Yeah, yeah, I got you. I got you. I was like, man, I'm selling so much of this shit on TV. Yeah, I got to put something in the streets.

Come on, man. Go ahead and put you in, you know what I mean? You look at my blood and said, you're running out of gas. Yeah, yeah. See, you're not out of gas. Sprade that. What makes you get into that? I got something.

What makes you want to get into that? Come on, bro. I got supply to people. On and off the screen, you know what I'm saying? I mean, but that's still, like, something that if you, you don't think that you get, if you don't think that you can, you don't mean, like, really make it really,

make it work, that you don't take that risk, you know what made you understand it. I always got good people in my life. You know what I'm a shout to my boy, Nellie. Gas Station, he's the one that came with me with the idea of creating the power pack. Okay. I was like, bro, let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

You got 50 got behind it. Yeah, 50, fuck with it. You know how motherfuckold is it. Nellie. Shout out to Nellie. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's not that Nellie.

I'm not that Nellie. Hey, I'm talking about the other Nell. It's that Nellie. Yeah. I'm talking about the Nell. What are you. And the baby, they got a baby. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? He can't do this, man. He's not even smoke with you. Yeah, exactly. He don't even look at the shit. That ain't gonna let it be a hundred and sixty-six. He probably ain't smoking it. He probably sold it a few pounds at this day.

I know they're one-on-one. That's one-on-one. Yeah. Yeah, man. One of wine. Like, that is a, you know, that and became one of those series that you know going to be around for the rest of forever. forever. Like, power. Just the name power. Like, it's like one of those shows. It's like the modern

day New York undercover. But, you know what I mean? It's expanding. You know what I mean? It keeps expanding. Like, did you have a desire to be a part of that before you got the call or was it? How long it's been too? For the whole power joint? Maybe like 10 years now. I think this year is 10 years for the power unit. That's fire because niggins don't need to be on TV that long. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Four years, yeah. Four years, yeah.

And Cynthia, another one that did the theme song thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Turned up with the power thing. Yeah. I guess they want to be saying the one-on-one. I just come from the poor. He'd be like, you know, I ain't put you on power right there.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's one of the songs that they can play in the club, and I'm cool way. Yeah, exactly. I hate being in the club and they play in the future, and I get in there, they start playing every little step. Out of nowhere, they'll play Bobby Brown.

I'm like, I am not Bobby Brown. Oh, nigger. That'd be killing me every time. You want to do something? You want to do something? Go do so. You want to say it. You're trying to make it sound like a good idea.

You know it'd be funny as hell. If I hand you the mic and you go on stage and you do the dance move, you're a fucking mother, though. You don't remember the dance, no? I hate that, bro. I hate it. Now, that shit has just been crazy if you just didn't. He's not Bobby Brown. I mean, I know, but what make you...

At this point, you pay wood. I mean, I understand that part, but when you say you hate it, that mean it has happened in so many different ways that it made you hate this shit. People be trying to be funny. We heard all the jokes. That's like a pretty girl. I'm like, she heard that she's been pretty a million times, so now she's kind of numb to it. Okay.

You know what I mean? Like, so now it's like I've heard every single Bobby Brown joke in the world. I've heard every single one. I've seen all the memes. So now it's just like, when I hear it, it's like, come on, bro. You know what I mean? So I'm trying to get over. over the fact that it's their experience with me.

So let me go ahead and let them get that. Yeah, I mean, some shit ain't, they're like, like you said, 40 years from now, motherfuckers still gonna be doing this. You heard you what I said, Bobby Brown? They should let you do that Jaroo video in the movie. You heard me calling your name. They took it out.

They took it out, yeah. So you did it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dealing with tea. They took it out. They took it out, bro. Oh, that shit was five.

That shit was hard. They took it out Nigger That was my favorite To kick out the helicopter Hell yeah Great a shit Easy

Easy That nigga killed that guy I was a child So I didn't get a chance To see Bobby Brown But I got to saw that Bobby Brown So when I saw that glimpse With Bobb Brown

I was like Oh Mr. Digger they love And I was Bro it was amazing Seeing that people were happy That he was back Yeah Yeah

I was around People who were Bobby Brown Team Yeah you talking about See, I remember being Bobby Brown, Bobby Brown. The being the TV show, that's the Bobby Brown I grew up with. Yeah. You see what I'm saying?

I remember just the music because I grew up in the house with all my family members, but I remember my uncle, my uncle was a DJ. And one of the things that he always used to tell me about Bobby Brown is he would always reference Babyface. Like, you know, Babyface wrote all this shit and that. Babyface wrote the whole album. Matter of fact, Babyface wrote all this. So it just made me look at like, I just have an affinity for the niggas that write music. like the coming from my uncle, Babyface, Smokey Robinson, you know, the writers, the niggas that can write music for themselves,

but then can neo and niggas like that, that can tap into, I don't know how them niggas do that shit, right? Like, Babyface wrote Superwoman. That's my mama's favorite song. But to be able to tap into a woman's mentality to write from that perspective is crazy. It's a gift, bro. You know what I mean?

It's crazy. They walking in their purpose, so they ain't never going to miss. Yeah, all the way. What made you want to get into the production of music? You know, I mean, the drumline for real. Yeah, yeah. I just wanted to do everything music. So when I got the fan music, it was like,

that's when I got introduced to fruity loops, and I started cooking up back in the wake. Yeah. Well, yeah, man. Cooking, bro. Got one with Setti. I said, you got one with SETI too. That's a lot of SETI, man.

Yeah, man. Mm-hmm. SETI tap. He'll fool rider too now. Yeah, he are. SETI hard, bro. SETI is. Super slept doing.

And the production is such a big part of the music, man. Like, you know what I mean, I always had my favorite producers like the young nigga Cash Cobain out of New York right now like all that this that sound like when you create a whole new sound who pop lord pop lord pop lord in the city though oh real i ain't ever heard you know who's fucking this game up he he's going crazy he's crazy he's fucking these niggas up yeah he go crazy man that's the that's the hard too man that's the hard take he fuck these niggins up that's the hard you know what's the other one uh what's my man name uh they got the jamy fox shit uh hey yo p.

You want to come out here? That's hard. Like that, that young day. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You know, if your Metro don't trust you, I'm going to shoot you. Hard. We's out of here. We's out of here.

We've got to. O.G. Park. I like the O.G. Park. That's hard. Yeah. Yeah, that beat. And then Zatowton, of course. Zatotov.

That boy, that boy, school got one he made for London. We got London on the trail. Oh, yeah. That's right. That's the ball. Listen to this track, bitch. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's an aggressive one right there. Listen to this trap, bitch. I got to be a bitch. Imagine you listen to it. I like the song. One of my favorite tags, though, the damn, son, when did you find this? That's crazy.

Yeah. I love that. I couldn't listen to, um, what old? Life skin, DJ, man. DJ drummer. Back then, I used to listen to someone, but the ones he went crazy with his DJ mixing on.

It was hard. I used to like when that nigga talked shit. niggas, y'all niggas weren't ready. You look, it'd be like three minutes and 41. I'm trying to tell you in two minutes and 30 seconds. And being the niggins just started talking about irrelevance. You seen us

last Thursday. Outside the club, four blue forroids, five black ones. That's nine cars for you niggas who can't count. I just want to hit a song. I want to hit it so on. We're living better than you

niggas. We're eating better vegetables, we taking vitamins. Yeah. Don't shut up all my niggas. You're probably going to live longer than a lot of these things because we're richer than these things. Getting more paper. Goh.

Fucking more push-ups. Jumping more rope than these niggins. Don't let that go on your head. What's my man named out of Florida the DJ? Damn sneak? No, no, no, nah. He'd be talking on everybody's shit. I'm having a brain.

You're talking about. You're talking about. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. He's like a Haitian. He's like Jamaican on Haitian or something like that. What's my man? Not a jampoing shit.

Not a nigga will be on Lucha shit, isn't? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bigger, yeah. Bigger, big a rake. Bigger. Bigger about that. Bill Rakey got like a story telling with that shit. Yesterday, ain't a day, because most of these niggas be dying yesterday, so I ain't here today.

And I want my niggas to live till tomorrow. So if you're a real nigger, put your guns and your money up. And listen to a real nigger. talk, bullshit, talk to these niggas. And you're like, I got to hear this shit. I got to hear this shit. Got it, bro. I got to him, bro.

You might go slow with it. They lie. I'm like, who lied? These nigger be live, man. Yeah. Oh, tell you, bro. But that made us want to listen to it, though. It was storage.

We're coming back. We'll be right back in January. You listen to this. This is probably marked. By the time you rode back around, we'll be doing what we already did. You sound like that nigga from Payton Ford. That's a letter dirty day.

We got my nigga Carlos Mill in the building. This pulled out with a brand-new cold, BBSs. Got that boy Woody in the building. He is not Bobby Brown. Don't pull that bullshit. Got that boy D.C. young fly in the building. I don't know if he can fly it, but he looked like he can. Yeah, we run home in the building.

That's a thing. That's telling everything. My nigga D.C.'s in the building. Selling Mac Coke uptown. Just a sniffing. Rock the boys is in the building. Yeah. Yeah.

Classics, bro. Yeah. Classics, man. I can't wait to see what y'all do. Please give me the call. No worry about that. We got me to call. Oh, but I'm a question, man.

We easily find something for you to do, me. I'm excited. I'm going to do everything, bro. For sure. We got you. Life, one of my favorite movies. I want to see something like that kind of body. Life is.

Life is lit. My favorite move all the time. Watch. Man, fuck that cheap ass watch Man, say that shit again Say that shit, just say they walk Just say war Just say war

What for? You just say woo-a-boo I'm telling you, bro You're a nigga-a-dick and digger Part two of my killer spree When to start off up in here on your ass Just that die of all, man My favorite movie

My favorite movie Brock sitting there watching it I just smile from idiot Uh-uh, I just smiled for idiot when I watched I just be like That's me money talk

oh yeah I'll say be happy in here when I watch this movie I'd be like this shit fun yeah yeah

yeah that explain my life yeah yeah somebody just trying to figure out day for date

and I'm gonna and I'm gonna twerk you like you like you that's me but I'm gonna finish you that nigga

they put their hands on you yeah man the motherfucker can see listen I was trying and then when I was running and I was like

get on me man let me tell you something so listen I was over there right and they came And they grab me. They grab me. Get over, man.

I was trying. And then when they came, and they were all along with. And I'm talking to four, get the fuck out of me. Boom, boom, boom. And then they grab me. I'm like, what the hell wrong with you?

So what I'm trying to say here? I told them for everything going on. What the hell? What the hell I have your shirt, man? Hey! Classic, bro. Classic. No cap, bro.

They don't make it like that no more, man. You know what, hate that shit? When the motherfucker went to that auction? Oh, yeah. He was over there. He was like, that's not it. That's not it, man. I'm telling you that, that's not it.

And he got the motherfuckin' back in for him. Fuck me. Fuck you. Man, that shit was so funny. Yeah, classic, bro. Classic, man. That's what I mean. Like, just one of those.

So is he Vick the Mone's kid, or is he? Is he half a bully or? Vick D'emone, my name. But you know what? You know what he did? Gray and goddamn, uh, dead president. Oh, yeah.

That was a, that was a, that was a, you know, that was a role right there. I mean, like, there's just those classic type of movies. Like I said, man, Martin and thin line between love and hate. That they came out there, man, I just left up out the police station.

Man, he ain't give a nigga, no respect up in that motherfucker, man. You know, I tell him they, the girl, you know what I mean? He's chasing me. You're like, oh, she abused her you. She, oh. She, oh.

I'm a fucking, I'm not going to go. Yeah, yeah. And when I need to get that, he said, I can't go to that way. That's your nervous, bro. I'm okay, man. Bad, bad. Back in the street. Hard, bro.

Hard, bro. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Some of that blue suit. Some of that funny and shit. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but the most, I think the most, it's the weirdest part. It's not the weirdest part, but it's part that made me cry the holiday where

smoking was trying to stop his car and then Chuck Taylor got caught. Then, I was on the ground, crying at the house. Because I'm like, well, it took everything in him for him to stop that car, bro. He was like, God, damn, man. God, damn. Oh, shit. Damn, bro. That thing will heat it.

God, damn, bro. Stop it. Stop it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit, man. That's what I mean. Like, just being able to have that type of, man, just putting that piece of work out there, man,

where it's going to live forever, man. We got one. We got a couple of betters, but we just, you know, we're going to put one out, bro. You know what we're going to start doing, man. We're in position now. We know some nigs are. They got some money.

And they just told us, just bring me back the movie. Go to create. Here, man, money. Here, money. Go create. And that's what we did. I don't sound like that.

That's hard. That's hard. I'm telling. But we got to show them, y'all. My money. For you? For you, my friend? You?

For you. We have order. I said, what do you have order? I said, we have auto. I'm like, they say, Yeah, we need to talk like them so they don't know what on the next one. Okay, no, my friend, listen, the accent. My driver, yeah.

The accent's a little, but the way, listen, let's make deal, okay. Yeah. Y'all be flying out? You thought you got this thing or not to get the rich. I said, what about? That's what I'm trying to take. Yeah, yeah, I'm pulling up. My friends, my friends, you know these guys, listen, come on, let's make a deal.

Let's make deal. For you? For you? Come on, let's make deal. You don't make the movies. Let's make the movies. I make the movies. Come on, guys.

Guys, come on, guys. That's hard. I'm 10. But I'm also, I'm also, I appreciate that. Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm on the Ed Murphy's shit. It's trying to get into prosthetics. Got to.

Oh, that's great. Letty professor. Like, we already do these characters live on stage. Like, we just turn into different niggas every time we do show. I just like entertaining. And that's probably one of the funest part. So, while and out, like, I was, when I was in Buffalo, and he came to the show, and I was talking about just them episodes

we get to dress up like wrestlers and be Jamaicans. We were just having fun, bro. And shit, because we get just come out and just do an elbow, my nigga, like. That's why I love anything in prom, man. It's because you don't, you know. We was wrestlers. You learned that you don't do nothing wrong.

Yeah, you can't. What did they do? We were wrestlers. And then came I dressed like a boxer. And he's thinking of me getting fun. I'm like, love it's supposed to be wrestling. He's like, yeah, I'm the boxer, nigga. That's my brother.

And they want to put him on tight white. It was. Hey, man. No, he did this shit so many times, bro. That when you had the motherfucker, the Lucius door mask on, my nigga. Roach man. Yeah, Roachman, man.

Man, that shit was classy. That's what I came in. Nigger, man. That's sucking on that pussy because I'm roach man. Yeah. Like, that goofy shit, bro. Be the fuckest shit ever about that. Is it a lot of pressure when y'all do the improv stand-ups?

No, no, not. That's the big fun. Like, like you said, like that imagination. Yeah. That's what we get to do. Like, we just get to be, it's no restrictions. You can't do no wrong. You can't do no wrong.

Whatever a nigger say is we're going to just go off. It don't matter. Y'all so quick with it, too. I see y'all in South Carolina. Yeah, because we just... I saw a clip the other day that had me on the motherfucking flow. Sometimes, you know, you know, just scrolling. And then you just scroll up on, like, a clip from the show.

that a fan post it. I bet you y'all didn't forget all about this shit. What happened, bro? It's the stud that you're in the dick

and shit. Oh, my God. I said a lady being like pistols like he had in the mic standing the dick

with the selfish you got to wrap it around your waist that dick is spunked around it and I saw that other day too. And that just

make us realize how much shit we didn't done. Like, you know what I mean? When you see them old clips that shit diggers be posted that shit be funny that the motherfucker

that was a dude. It was another clip that nigga had that right and said his nuts long and he said he was fucking to be so low

that when a nut hit the floor it had no it had no screwing on some of the dust no he said it left a nut it print on the floor and that's how I knew

she ain't been sweeping like she said you were oh! Hey yo I can't see how y'all think that fast, bro. Listen, and that's the thing that make this shit so full-fucking. Because you never know what the nigga going to say, man.

That, man, you never know what the nigga going to say, man. This nigga, the last show we had, man, this dick is saying some shit, man, that had me about to die. He was like, all right. Tell these two far apart. You keep on. I'm like, yeah, you want to see them tennis. Yeah, you want to see them tennis on this dick. Yo, what the fuck?

Insane. Insane, bro. You know, that thing is insane. Just different. The only one that's going to make you eat up pussy. You strap on a little. This, bro. You're going to hit the pussy with the strap on,

brus. He's going to hold the dick up. Going like this. Go ahead, bro. Do this shit. Go ahead, bro. That's the fun of this. That's the funny shit I ever heard, bro.

That clip with the good lady took her teeth out slip and you said her teeth looked like an ashtray. What is you? It's insane. It's just, it's just, it's so much, man. We have a lot of people that be like bringing life. That's one thing about improv, bro. We are going off of energy. So it's like we really don't see y'all, we hear y'all though.

So it's like, and it's like, and it's like, and it's like, Y'all are voices in our head. That's how the people in the crowd is. So if a motherfucker would be safe with shit, we're like, hey, yeah, we're going to go right on with that shit. And we just create a whole space, bro. We just create a space, bro. I love improv, and you can't do no wrong.

Yeah. And it's just like. You have to commit. It's all about commit. And it's just like when you're doing it by yourself is one thing. But it's like to be able to see something just build off a thought. Like, I say something. Then he take it.

And then he just, boom. And then it's just, now it's a whole scene. And then the band started playing. Now we're making the song. We don't know none of this is going to happen. There is literally of, however many hundreds of shows we've done at this point, we ain't practiced, not one thing ever. We just having fun.

It's more so it's our playground, right? That's why we're appreciative and we're grateful. Because every show, we know for a fact, the people are coming to see this. They're coming to see us do this. So it's like, we're in the back. We're in our backyard, and this niggas over the fence, like, then the niggas go. The niggas back outside.

They're like, they're all funny. And y'all nigger always like, you know what I'm saying? Look at these, dude. And they like, we like, man. Yeah, we're all punishment. They back again, you know what I'm saying? No, we love this shit, though. Man, what's the next for you, Willba?

What's you got going, man? What's your great get into? Man, I just created this comic book called The Brotherhood. What is it about? You've seen, y'all sing Kingsman? Yeah. So you know how Kingsman got their own agency and they take place in the tailoring shop.

But the Brotherhood is, like, our hub is like the cigar lounge. You know what I mean? And we do the missions that Kingsmen don't get, that James Bond don't get. We get the bullshit. Like, back in the day, we had to sink the Titanic because it was filled with opium. And they filled with Atlanta in the United States, that would have got out to the families. Yeah, and it'll destroy the U.S. So, like, the Brotherhood was the workers on there, but we were secretly brotherhood members,

and we sunk the Titanic and it looked like the ice. And it's the common. Yeah, it's a comic book. That's five. That's five. Yeah, so it's like a whole bunch of stories and history of why certain things happen. That's dark. You tied in the brotherhood of how they was secretly behind the shit that really was

that is so much you could do, bro. It's a different thing. Your lips and God, you know what I see it. Like as black people invented so much stuff, you could incorporate that, like, the making that invented the traffic, like, why he had. Why he really had to do it. Yeah, exactly. Kidnapping black people in the South and he had to make a way to start.

had to make a way to stop for the breakfast to be able to, yeah, nigga, I'm gonna be a writer on that, mom. I like that, that's hard. That's hard. But you're fired in here. You know what I'm saying? I'm very passionate about that project, right?

He already got the motherfucking shit copyrighting, you bitch-haired, he already got this shit in stowa. Oh, yeah. It's all the way. That's all the niggas. He's running down like, my niggas. Yeah.

You all the niggies, I've been stealing. I've been writing my niggas as I was in the same break. You're going to call the brotherhood steal my shit. Yeah, no. That's no problem. one of the one. That's brilliant, bro, because it's like, man, yeah, yeah. I like that. That's fine. And the music, you

know what I mean, producing, staying in the studio. So if y'all get in the studio, let me know. Oh, we got one right there. What are you facing? I'm here. Oh, man, man. Yeah, yeah, I'm here. Say no more. We might go to the studio there week, man. Let me know. Say no more. He's staying there.

Yeah, I'd be in there. I know why I say next year if it'll be so fun for me as an artist. Mm-hmm. Drop your social media, man, so they can go check the other. The social is Woody underscore The Great, I don't know which one, is it this one. All the bitch. Woody underscore the Great, follow your boy on all platforms.

Yeah. Look, man, you're proud of you, what you're bringing to the open game, to the entertainment, to the media world. Hey, this your first time stopping through here. Man, let me be the last. You're a goat, a nigga. We're out of here. Oh, no, no, we're not.

Wait a minute. You got some more shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gave us a bag, we're giving you one. I'm taking this. We got it in here. Yeah, represent that third and dirty. Yeah.

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