The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1713 A Nation of Nosy Neighbors

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

Adam and Drew break down the Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson situations and conclude that we live in a nation of nosy neighbors. Next, they take a call from someone who has questions about white supremacists. Please Support Our Sponsors: Simplisafe.com/ADAM2

Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Dr. is board first sergeant. Good morning, first sergeant. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

So, so much to talk about. I guess we should get to the Tucker and Don Lemon situation since that's been in the news lately and not something we have discussed yet. All right. And do you have any special insight into what's going on with Tucker? Well, before I ask the question, it's weird to me that people are making such a fuss out of this. It's weird to me. And I thought to myself, God damn it. We have turned into a freaking country of Mrs. Kravitz.

Everybody's Mrs. Kravitz. Everybody's up everybody's asshole. It should be like, oh, that's interesting. Anyway, what's for lunch? It shouldn't be headline, headline, headline. the kids don't know the reference i know but i'll explain pull it up every most every sitcom yeah and a lot of uh non-sitcoms um Bad Ronald, TV movie of the week, they had the nosy neighbor. It was a 61-year-old woman whose husband would leave for work in the morning, and she would just snoop. She would just kind of peek through the curtains all the time.

Always out of the curtains. The curtains. Always. She was the one. And then she would see Dr. Bombay, you know, come into the living room. That's a reference. On top of a camel. You know what I mean?

Just boom. And she'd be like, oh, my God. And then she would, when her husband would, you know, she'd go run to her husband. He was always in a chair. He was reading the newspaper over his head. Used to have to read the newspaper higher than the head and and then uh at some point she'd run and explain to him uh you know what happened and he would he might make some reference to her about taking it easy on the sauce or something there's always always some booze-related something to it.

We don't have to watch it. But the point is it was an archetype of the 60s and 70s of the nosy neighbor. And to look at these people also, you say 61 because they look 61. They're probably 50. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, they're always much younger because people used to dress their age and wear their hair their age. And women didn't mind getting old.

They, like, played old. Like, they were. That's their role was old. You wouldn't be a 55-year-old woman with long hair. That would be considered weird. You wouldn't wear a bathing suit. Right. Or certainly not a two-piece.

There was sort of one with like a bra built into it that you could, that you know, that women above 55 could wear. But anyway. But do play this because I'm thinking Miss Kravitz may actually be more like 40 years old. Look at her. I know. It's crazy.

I've got three more words. Will you wait? Crossword puzzle. I'm trying to get you interested in civic affairs, and you need words. Why do I care about words? She's peeking through the curtain. Always peeking. Adler!

What? Adler, come here! Gladys, I worked like a dog for 32 years the house across the street has got a lawn and after there are trees and flowers so what do you want from me well that's the way it'll look someday

what's the matter with Samantha at least the place looks somewhat limited then he'll finally get up and spot it to how it was and the mom the mother was a famous actress she was in she was a star of Broadway

and she was in the famous anyway what's this got to do with Tucker then everyone's up his ass everyone's got an opinion about what happened She was in the famous – All right. Anyway, what's this got to do with Tucker? Then everyone's up his ass. Everyone's got an opinion about what happened and what's going on and why are they doing it. And it's just odd to me that anybody feels the privilege of having an opinion or stating it or screaming it out loud. It's just weird to me. I get people might want to talk about it, make note of it, move on.

Day after day of headlines and social media action. And I'm going to ask you, any special insight, any sense of what happened there? Well, I haven't talked to Tucker since the events, but I do know him well. And he is a guy who sort of strives for independence. And I think journeys or transitions or something, they're not really done in big fell swoops. They're kind of done incrementally with some jumps and bumps along the way. So there's a famous statement about bankruptcy. Bankruptcy happens slow, then fast.

Right. At the end, there's a crisis phase at the end. Yes, yes. There's a crisis phase at the end. Yes, yes. So Tucker, as I've said, I'm always proud to say that he never misses an opportunity to bring up how I inspired him to sort of go my own way and do my own thing. And that's what he wanted to do. And he'll tell the story with great detail about coming here six years ago and five or or six years ago because he says 2017 2018 whatever uh and was it was inspired by me being sort of independent yeah kind of off the

grid i heard dave rubin has a similar story interestingly oh with tucker with tucker yeah yeah and um so he then got it in his head like maybe I could have my own space and do my own thing. And that's where it started. And when you go to his place in Florida, it's it's off the grids. It's exactly what you think. He comes riding in on a beach cruiser barefoot sometimes comes up, but puts a dress shirt on, gets a little bit of powder. It's kind of a skeleton crew. There's maybe two people working there. And then goes to town and then gets back, you know, does his thing, gets back on the

bike and pedals it home. Why did I think he was in Virginia? Was he there for a while or something? He's got a couple places, moves around a little bit. But then that's phase one of kind of getting away from the corporate Manhattan

world, you know, with the boss down the hall in the office and stuff like that. And then this may be phase two, you know, of just, he has a kind of disdain for the man. And even the man who cuts and checks and even the man who, you know, you claim to be sort of on the same page with, you know, there's still the man. You're still management.

Yeah. You're working for somebody. They have requests. they have protocols you know there's just there's just a an environment that you need to live in somebody did say something about uh murdoch that i thought sounded accurate that he sort of tolerates people who gives them a lot of robe. And then one day wakes up and goes, I've had enough of this guy. I can't do it anymore. That kind of feels like him. So I wonder if that had something to do with it.

Well, I'll find out. But for now, it just seems like an evolution of his journey toward independence. Yes, agreed. I've seen on social media already three job offers. Not inconsequential. I talked to him for an hour. I was out of town. I remember I was in Indiana or something,

but I talked to him on a Saturday for an hour and a half on the phone about podcasting and kind of independence and kind of hanging your own shingle and everything. And this is five years ago. I don't think he was ready to make that move, but he may be ready to make that move now. I don't know. Or he'll get funded by the Blaze or something. Who the hell knows?

Yeah. Or Ben Shapiro. This is something that I saw Scott Adams point out was that there is now an industry that has developed around cancellation essentially. Like as people spiral out of cancellation, there's these other sort of business options now that have just grown up as strictly speaking opportunities because there's all this talent flying around. Well, as I said to Gutfeld, I don't know, nine months ago when I was interviewing him,

but I don't often take note of some of the things I say. But when people I respect take note of things I say, It then makes me take note of things I say. And I was sort of explaining to him that he took note of that if you're good, you can go do what you want. And if you're not, you got to kind of hang in and do their job, it's because they're not unique or gifted or great. Yeah. So if you're great, you go. Look, if you're great at anything, if you're if you're if you're a av guy you know if you're if you're good then you work for a company and you set up tv sets and put in surround sound units and you have your job

if you're really great at it at some point you go i'm starting my own company yeah i'll do my own thing you know what i mean and it's kind of that way, like you're a chef. You know what I mean? Yeah. And you get out of the kitchen, you go, I want to do, I want my own restaurant. And if you're a journalist or a broadcaster, you will also have those same feelings. And the people that leave are the truly talented people. talented people so the the decision to go independent is not such a roll the dice when you're talented or gifted or unique you know what i'm saying yeah listen i just i just happened to come across an interview with steve martin last week where he was talking about he's

being interviewed and people like how do you how you get going comedy how do you who do you meet how do you go don't don't waste, who do you meet? How do you go? Don't waste your time meeting people and shaking hands. Just be great. Just be so good that people want you to work. Yes. Yeah. Yes.

As I've said a thousand times, who do you know is really good at their job who's out of work? Well, but I bet there are people, though,'t don't perceive their own worth there's that gotta be a lot of people well look there's people that don't perceive their own worth or afraid of being entrepreneurial or they're or they don't want to do the paperwork right right or they overestimate their own worth well there's a lot of that And then they go out and they fail because they're not as good a chef as they thought they were. You know, so there's that.

And by the way, there is also this sort of, this is what's challenging about these kinds of sort of declarations, which is that there are people that are sort of not yet where they need to be and they need to keep hammering. Well, that's the thing too. I mean, Tucker is now middle aged. He's been doing this for 30 years and he has to kind of think, all right, what's the next 20 years going to going to look like? You know, yeah. And but I think that's kind of what we're we're dealing with, because ultimately he's a free spirit.

I mean, that's his sort of baseline. Forget the arc of his career. He was on CNN for a free spirit. I mean that's his sort of baseline. People forget the arc of his career. He was on CNN for a long time. Yeah. I think he was on MSNBC for a minute. He's done lots of different things and reinvented himself and he's very different now than he was back 20 years ago. Yeah, and he also is an evolver. I mean he wants change. you know, he wants to do

something different. And, um, I mean, I share a lot of his impulses, like what's new, what's different, what's, what's next, what's a new experience. You know, I, I don't think it's And hanging on to your job with both hands is, again, it's good if you are mediocre at your job. That's the bottom line. But if you think that you're unique and bring something that other people don't bring, and then there's also financial side of it. He lives a very modest, humble life. He probably has money socked away.

He can afford to take a hit financially or not work for a period of time. There's all sorts of implications in that department too. But yes, I agree with you. It's interesting how charged the news agencies are on it. I don't know how... I never really... I can't gauge. It's like I can't gauge when politicians are talking about nonsense.

I can't gauge whether they're really into it or they're just sort of talking about it. Just filler. Yeah, I guess. Maybe they're trying to build a case, you know, as always. Well, I mean, no one on the left likes him. I was watching MSNBC last night, and they were just 20 minutes on him being a racist, which always makes me laugh.

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Sam on the subject, sort of. Sam, 50, Seattle. Hi, how's it going? Good. So, Dr. Drew, when people, when you bring up white supremacy, you think you kind of go back to this Frederick Douglass

definition of Eurocentric thinking. But I think you and Frederick Douglass are the only ones who think that way. When people think of white supremacy. If I ask someone on the street, you street, what do you think of white supremacy? They think it's not the KKK. So why do you keep going back to this Frederick Douglass definition?

Because it's not like Eurocentric thinking is wrong in itself. No, no, it's not. You may have missed – I need to frame when I bring this up more sort of with greater discipline. Because I used to always say we need a different word. We need a different way of describing this thing. Because some people are describing the Frederick Douglass Eurocentric stuff, and some people are talking about guys in prison with swastikas on their head. These are vastly different things, and they're throwing them under the same heading. And it's disingenuous.

It's manipulative. And that's why I bring it up, because if you want to talk about things like systemic racism being sort of a bias, okay, that's a bias, and that is the Eurocentric kind of – and I'm amazed how many people – when I focus on that bias, it's out there a lot. I see it a lot. I try to discipline myself to not have that bias and to watch it when other people do it. But I'm not talking about the guys in prison because I've never –

personally, I've only met two kinds of white supremacists of that nature, of the sort of skinhead variety. And they come in two versions in my life. A, in prison, period. B, recovering. There are recovering people out there that help other people get out of these culty, nonsense, hateful groups. And those are the only two that I've ever interacted with. So I don't know where they all are. I guess Joe Biden sees them all over the place, right?

Oh, yeah. Well, it's the biggest problem this nation faces. So it's just such a more diverse landscape than people are willing to kind of talk about. And that's really what I'm tilting at, Sam, when I bring these things up. And what I say is, read Frederick Douglass. Read it. It'll help you. He's brilliant. His words are amazing.

Does that make sense? Yeah, but when other people say white supremacy or white supremacy, they are not referring to Frederick Douglass. Sometimes they are, but Sam, sometimes they are not referring to further further sometimes they are but sam sometimes they are they are i'm telling you that that's what caught my attention at the beginning was that people were because when they talk about systemic racism and white and and and intrinsic implicit biases they're talking about that f Douglass version. That's what they're talking about. Yeah, that's systemic, you know, whatever, and biases.

Not the term white supremacy. If someone says white supremacy, they are more or less shouting fire in the theater. They are trying to, you know, get attention and not just point out, oh, this is kind of a, you know, Eurocentric thinking, or you're just kind of thinking the way Western, you know, Western thinking. No one, I don't know, I just don't think anybody says it and means it. Sam's right. You may be right. You may be right.

I'll pay it. Maybe when it first caught my attention, I saw it differently, and maybe that was just my thinking at the moment, and I didn't have enough. I really wasn't seeing a lot of it perhaps and I thought I was. I don't know. But I'll keep an eye on it. I know what you're saying. But, boy, I've heard a lot of conversations where people talk about white supremacists

and they are not talking about the cartoon version, the skinheads. Well, but you run in a certain circle that most people don't run in. But my point is, for sure we should have different language, and I will try to come up with that, for sure. Yeah. It's an interesting way to occupy our time in 2023. So it'd be worrying about the guys in prison?

No, we're not. We're not worried. Look, the numbers, they cannot keep up. So there is there's a supply chain issue with racists and white supremacists in this country. There's not enough of them. There's not enough to meet the needs of the people that never stop talking about it. So then there's two things that has to happen. We must, A, create them. So we'll stage it.

Yeah, we'll find it around every corner or we'll stage it or we'll go Jussie Smollett or whatever that is, or we'll accuse concerned parents in Virginia of being white supremacists, you know, or we'll graft it on to me when I talk about opening schools and stuff like that. So there's that. And then there's a redefinition of it, which is we will then make it something invisible and sort of systemic and we'll make it like radon gas. And then we won't, you won't be able to deny it or supply it. You'll, it'll just be there.

I always assume that's the Frederick Douglass version they're talking about when they go there. Yeah. Well, because they, whatever, whatever it is, it works to their advantage to distill it all under one umbrella.

Yes. The, the plan is, is we don't have, you know, I heard something. I think I heard Larry Elder talking about this. If,

if 90 to 95% of the black community doesn't vote Democrat, then they'll lose presidential elections. So that is a group that they're very interested in scaring, scaring them. And then then the promise is we will protect you from this, which I've just never seen any evidence of them protecting anybody from anything. But it's also to be fair, it's hard to protect somebody from something that doesn't really exist in any kind of numbers. I don't know how you would do that. I mentioned to you that I read Booker T. Washington's autobiography, and he made a

big point in the autobiography about how his community was constantly looking to the federal government since they were the ones that freed them from slavery. So they became the salvation. They became where you looked for solutions. And it stayed that way. Yes. So they will be making that pitch constantly. Obviously, it's a political campaign.

Things are calculated. They're not just sort of scattered to the wind, you know, sort of willy nilly. And the fact that they're going to dedicate 50 percent of their campaign to talking about systemic racism means it's calculated, obviously. And thus, here we are now. I get what the politicians are doing. It's sort of sad that school teachers unions and CNN and the L.A. Times are all all on board with it, too. At the end of the day, when historians sort of look back on it, it's going to be a catastrophic waste of time, a catastrophic waste of time along with a waste of lives along with a waste of money and as billions of dollars dumped into you know inner city baltimore with no and with no results it's like homelessness yeah same exact playbook it's gavin newsom with homelessness so uh but yet

there's an infinite capacity for this. You know, kind of get some elected. As long as it gets them elected. I know. But, you know, it kind of remember. Remember back in the day when you were younger and you're dating and you like your friends were dating and stuff like that. And you had some friend and he'd say, I got a hot date Saturday night with Jenny, and this is going to be good, and I'm getting my car washed and buying cologne. And then, like, at some point, you talked to him Monday, and he'd go, how's that hot date?

And he'd go, oh, she got strep throat, so I couldn't do it. So we had to back off. But we agreed to try it again this weekend. You know what I mean? And then you'd go, okay. There's a little part of your head that was like, strep throat? Really? But okay.

People get sick. You put it off a week, not a month. People get sick. And then so you'd kind of go, all right, all right. And then they'd have it all set up for the next Saturday. And then you talk to your buddy on Monday and go how to go. And then her sister came into town sort of last minute. Now you're your doubt levels getting pretty, pretty high.

But you're not you're not willing at this point to even pipe up. And he makes a pretty convincing story. And there don't worry. We got it set up for the phone for this coming friday you know you can imagine how that conversation went too it's like all right good next week no problem we'll do it all right next friday right right right right right and then at a certain point then you talk to your friend again on monday maybe you work with them you go yeah did you go out on friday no i we couldn't because as it turns out, she had a history final and she just told me she had studied.

Now, what I'm saying is not on the first date, but about the third one that's canceled, you pull your buddy aside and you go, this isn't happening. You think this is happening. I am here as a friend. I am telling you, move on. This is not, hold on. Move on. I don't know why the black community doesn't figure this one out. They need to be pulled

aside and said, this ain't working. Whatever they say they're going to give you or things are going to change, hope and change, or they're going to fix this or cure that or whatever, it's not happening. So what's the plan? You know what I mean? Like a friend would do, essentially.

It's what LeBron James and the Obamas should be doing. You know what I mean? Yep. This guy, you're going to vote him in. He's going gonna reunite everything he's gonna help you get it he's gonna build from the bottom up in the middle out and stuff you don't have shit your bank account's got less in it now taxes are higher gas is more bills are more at what point as you start rounding year number 50 or 60, at what point does the person who's been stood up on the

date sort of realize, I got to move on? That's the big question to me. And to your analogy, to take it a bit further, people respond differently to environmental cues. Like it occurs to me thinking through that analogy, you and I would pull out after two cycles. It would take twice. That'd be it. Ray would take five or six. You know what I mean? Right?

Yeah. Other people, I might hang out longer than two. Oh, I would not. I would. Well, you're, you know,

self-esteem, desperation level. But would. Well, your, you know, self-esteem, your desperation level. But by the way, the white version of this is the environment. Al Gore told you 14 years ago, 17 years ago, that this whole thing was wrapping up in eight years. Yeah. Every news story from the 70s was talking about ice age for the white people yeah we're 50 years on same deal yeah they're still every bit is invested in it and they're gonna let this guy because this guy's

gonna fix this yeah but they never do and you guys sign up for another round of it every single season, every cycle. It's interesting, isn't it? Yes, and there's another interesting sort of phenomenon embedded in this. When did we become so focused on the federal government? Oh, that's the bigger problem. I mean, the federal government is really not supposed to have much sway. It's supposed to be the state and the county, city, and then the federal government deals with the interstate and the defense and sort of bigger issues, not up our ass socially. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. Weird, right? I remember when Bill Clinton got elected, I wasn't happy about that. What difference does it make? Yeah, yeah. And he turned out to be a really good president anyway. I was like, okay.

You know, got a little preoccupied with something, but all right. And then all of a sudden, the president matters more than God? I mean, it's very weird. Yeah, not a good sign. No. All right, you can go to adamcroll.com for all the live shows. Coming to – I'll be in New York at Sony Hall for my birthday.

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