The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1734 From Radiology to Roofing

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

Drew and Adam get into the Arnold Schwarzenegger docuseries before speaking to someone quitting radiology to become a roofer. They talk about the reasons people are fleeing the medical field and how the notions of right and wrong have shifted. Next, they take a call from someone who has questions about Jamie Foxx's medical condition. Please Support Our Sponsors: Simplisafe.com/ADAM2 Angi.com

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Got to get on. Got to get on. Dr. Drew's Sports Certified Physician. Spatula. Spatula. Well, let's see. Drew was watching the Arnold Schwarzenegger miniseries. I watched a lot of it last night.

What did you think? How many parts to it are there? Three. Oh, there are three. I think I saw two and a half. So you saw him going to the governor's office and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, interesting. I like the early days stuff. days stuff um i think part of the interest for guys like you and i is i think you think that we're very interested in the schwarzenegger story which is a good story very interesting very um you know it's inspiring it's inspiring it's it's just america yeah you know, it's inspiring. It's inspiring. It's just America. You know, come here, work hard or don't. But, you know, you'll figure out your fate. And we like that part of it. But the other part of it, it's a real time stamp on where we were, you know, from the 70s to the 80s to the 90s. Like it really is a stamp.

I remember all those moments. to the 80s to the 90s. Like it really is a stamp. I remember all those moments. Yeah, because Schwarzenegger represented the culture as much as he represented stardom or action hero-dom or whatever it was. He really was the culture. Yeah. And there was all that pumping iron and bodybuilding and all the kinds of it really kind of blew up in the early 70s and and it's it's weird like i mean i sat

around it's like oh i know those names yeah i know franco colombo and zane yeah all those guys even as a young male we just of course even a weird little snippet, they only used up about 15 or 20 seconds, but it's something I don't think I've ever really even gotten into with. But there was a guy named Vince Gerondo or Geraldo. Gerondo, I think it was. Gerondo, and he had this little place called Vince's Gym in Studio City, and I was a member there. Well, not only that, if I could just pile onto that,

the picture of Schwarzenegger on the stage with his first Universe win, the guy next to him, Bill Pearl from Pasadena, whose gym I worked at for 10 years. Oh, really? Yeah. I knew him very well. And Vince's Gym was this miniature building and it was very cinder blocky kind of it was a sort of windowless little gym with all these sort of hardcore dudes

and and and it was like heated with a stove kind of thing. And guys would just work on these, you know, contraptions that were 40, 50 years old, you know. A lot of chalk and steel and rusty old blades and stuff. Yeah. And I got a membership there when I was like 16 or something. And I was trying to put some muscle on to play football. And I remember it well. And then I started thinking about the concept of the camaraderie,

which is having your competition come with you to train, which is antithetical to most ways of thinking. You know, all other businesses, other competitions, they don't really work that way. I mean, with ice skating, you get with your coach and then you sort of hive yourself off. And, you know, if somebody from the other side came snooping around, you would close practice and tell them to leave, you know, And it would be that way with a lot of sports and MMA to a certain amount, boxing and combat sports and stuff like that. But you wouldn't have the guy in the gym with you spotting you physically. Encouraging you.

Encouraging you and whatevering with you. It's interesting. Some of it was kind of that it was such an insider group they were sharing and arnold tilted at this in one of the interviews in the first episode they were sharing really what they were sharing was a lot of secrets about steroids and things so once you were in that world there's a lot of trust building and a lot of what are you doing what am i doing how do we do this a lot of that i remember that i remember all that going on uh then they used to then when i graduated medical school they start to come to me like can you get me this can you get me that i think just so-and-so is doing this this one's doing that one

a lot of fucking drugs they were doing a lot yeah they alluded to it but probably soft peddled it he just you just see ronald in a car at one point and he was one of the first to admit it. He goes, everybody competing at this level is doing steroids. Everybody. Right. That's it. True. Still. But it was interesting what a kind of phenom it was and

so much of it made sense in real time like when you're going this guy wants to be a leading man. It's like he's made sense in real time. Like when you're going, uh, this guy wants to be a leading man. It's like, he's struggling with the language. You can't be a leading man. He has a thick accent,

you know? Um, but really what it showed that was whatever he was able to do in the gym, that part early translated yeah just translate where he would just go lock himself up in the gym and have at it for five hour workout like oh he just took that same mentality outside and then you start like kind of thinking about people you know and names you know and historical things and stuff and you go yeah it's just all hard work and you know and names you know and historical things and stuff, and you go, yeah, it's just all hard work. And, you know, I think what I keep sort of thinking about

and wrestling with is it's sort of culture. It's micro, it's macro, it's everything, which is like it's kind of like good news and bad news. The good news is if you would like to really outwork everybody and really bust your hump and really put in the hours and delayed gratification because if you think about bodybuilding, all it is is delayed gratification. You're just going to go in day in and day out, go to the gym. Eat certain things. Spend all this time doing all this painful. And it's also repetition.

Repetition is a thing that you have. Rarely talked about. It's rarely talked about, but you really have to kind of wrap your mind around repetition repeat repeat just keep doing this piano practice this language practice so now we get to you know what i always say you know diet and exercise but i i don't mean it just for your weight i mean it for everything it's just so it's like the good news is you can come to this country. You don't have to have command of the language.

You can come from some very small village in Bavaria and you can make your way to fame and riches and whatever. That's that's the good news is there is no real barrier to entry, no matter what they try to force feed you about your gender or your sexual proclivities or your skin color or your religion. There is no your height. There really isn't a barrier to entry. That's the good news. The bad news is work and lots of it. Pain. And pain and repetition.

And that's where the disconnect comes in because people don't want to do that work. And they don't want to do the work, but there's not many people that just say, I'm lazy. I don't want to do the work. Yeah. I'm lazy. I don't want to do the work. I know it's what it would take to accomplish this. I don't want to do it. You don't have that. So what you do then is you have people grasping for reasons. And the reason is you didn't put the work in. It's no different than the bodybuilding competition. It's just you didn't put the work in. It's no different than the bodybuilding competition. It's just you didn't put the work in.

Okay. But I don't like that, and I don't want to admit it, and I don't like the realization of it, and also then that puts the onus and the burden back on me. And to be fair, people may not have really been exposed to the benefits of that. They may not really understand. Of course, the world doesn't teach that anymore. And so people may not kind of get it.

Their parents didn't teach it to them. The school didn't teach it to them. People don't understand that it becomes its own rewarding system eventually. The rewards build on themselves so it's not so painful anymore. People don't have that faith anymore. I'm a little less in that camp. Like I'm a little less in that camp in that when you start talking to people about diet, people always go, people, they don't know. They don't know. They don't know. You know, these young black and brown kids

or these young kids that are poor, you know, they don't know. They don't know. I go, no, they know the difference between an apple and a donut. They do. And everyone knows it. And it doesn't need, there needs not be a pyramid for that.

And there doesn't need to be any special coaching or nutritionist or something. Now, there's nuances to it that Vinny Tortorich could coach you up on. People don't know about seed oil or something like that, and they should. But they know the difference between an apple and a donut. but they know the difference between an apple and the donut yeah and they know it you get the message by age six uh between the apple and the donut and they're not doing it yeah and they're choosing not to do it they know it they're not doing it yeah and they know you know, I'm looking at it through the lens of a shitty student, which I was. I know you're supposed to do homework. I knew it when I was 11, you know, and I know you're, I know when they give you an assignment

to read or whatever, you're supposed to read it over the weekend and come back prepared on Monday. Like I, I knew it all. Yeah. I wasn't going to do it. Yeah. What went't going to do it. Yeah. What went through your head? It was,

it was a combination of, I don't, it was a combination of a lot of it was, this isn't for me. This is, this is not, I'm no good. Like at this,

you know, it's not for Corollas. Yeah. It's like, how many women have you heard with math? Just go, I don't, you know it's not for corollas yeah it's like how many women have you heard with math just go i don't yeah i can't do that yeah it's like have you really tried you know have you applied yourself if you've worked with somebody did you did you get with a tutor or did you just announce you don't do math yeah right yeah. Now, something like math is pretty easy to me. I can do it in my head. I saw it with my son. He does math. He does it in his head. He does it at a're not a three-sport star in high school,

but you got to go run some laps. You got to break a sweat. And we kind of get it. But with a lot of things, it was just, I don't know. I'm no good at that. We don't do that. What's in it for me? And to be fair, I mean, let's put it at least this way

in terms of the school I'm advocating on behalf of. People need a source of inspiration. Mm-hmm. You know? I wish we could put together – Sometimes. I even need it. Arnold inspired me.

It changed my attitude a little bit. Right. I wish we could put together like a document of people like Arnold, just all their stories, like 20 of them. People that came here, you know, nothing and did something and how they did it. Right. We should all be studying that shit. We should all know the stories. We should know how they did it.

Right. Because that should be what everyone is looking towards, not how the fucking government can do it for us. Well, the problem with the government as it stands and politicians as they, as they stand now is you're looking at the donut. You're looking at the apple. Everyone wants the donut. Nobody wants to do the apple.

And it's at that point that the government and the politicians need to say, eat the goddamn apple. But instead they're going, well, there are reasons why you can't eat that apple, and that has to do with your heritage or where you're born or your tax bracket or whatever it is, and they just make it easier to eat the donut, and now we have too many people eating the donut. But the people that do the delayed gratification thing, do the repetition thing, as you've said, is vastly under-discussed. They end up being successful.

Or at least successful in terms of what this country has to offer well i i noticed a lot of the guy hung out at jim's a lot in my younger years and uh i noticed a lot of those guys ended up doing stuff yeah oh yeah the person that could get up at five in the morning work out for two hours is the person that can get up and go to work and do stuff. Abso-goddamn-lutely. And the message is getting lost. But the part, so I think of it as, I've discussed this a lot. I think it's, I think there's a side to it that is much more destructive possibly nefarious than what what we'd like to do so so i guess what i'm saying is is when you know as it pertains to covid when the politicians are like yeah let's shut down the schools for a couple of years and just keep the kids indoors and mask them up. I'm like, there's a destructive side to that that you better start thinking about.

You can't just keep saying, do this thing, and you can't just keep telling people, you know, we live in a racist society and you don't have a chance. That's all great. You'll get elected. But there's a super destructive side to that that you're not bringing up, factoring in. And that's what I keep pushing against. Like everyone is like, well, just do this and say that. And I'm like, but what about the dividends?

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I was talking about family and education and they wanted to know about the school-to-prison pipeline and stuff. And it's like – well, I would argue that if in fact there is a school to prison pipeline and if it in fact preys on young men of color then those young men of color need more family and education that's that's the way to interrupt this thing if if in fact you fall prey to this thing if you're die if you're diabetic then you need a stricter diet like that's that's that's my argument that why i don't even know why you're making your argument is a is a mythical pipeline like puff the magic dragon it's like snatches them up and drops them off in prison. We have this bizarre relationship with actions. You know what I mean?

Like you understand cops may treat you differently or the principal at the school may treat you differently, even though statistically all that stuff's been completely destroyed. But, okay, with that in mind, you do not have to wrestle with cops. You don't have to even interact with them, really. More than a cursory sort of yes, sir, no, sir, thank you, you know, on your way. And I would argue I wasn't that good at it and neither were my buddies. But there there are ways to sail through high school and never see the principal. There are ways to do it. It's possible to do. It's possible to do. Now, Chris, but you can you can argue that once you do see the principal,

then the principal disciplines you at a greater level than he would your white ginger-haired counterpart. Okay, that's an argument. But my argument remains. Don't find your way near the principal. Bigger reason to stay away. A better reason to stay away from the principal. Yeah, yeah.

All right. You want to take a call? I'll take line one first, and I'm going to tell you what's next. So line one first. All right, let's talk to Chris from Boise. Hey, guys. Yeah, so I was in the radiology world for 14 years, and then COVID hit.

I did two years of COVID, and then my hospital really started pushing the diversity, equity, and inclusion. So I left and got into roofing sales so two totally different worlds I just was curious does Dr. Drew see a lot of people leaving healthcare for all these weird reasons and everything are you saying you were a radiology tech or were you a radiologist

I was a tech in diagnostics mostly working with spine intervention people are fleeing at a very high rate. They are. Oh, yeah. It's getting more and more and more painful to do health care. It's just a painful experience.

Particularly as a physician, you absorb all the liability and get all the headaches, all the paperwork, and what you're doing is then controlled by centralized authorities that don't let you use your training. And that's the world we live in. So good times. What about the whole diversity thing? I don't know that that has much to do with it yet, at least not in my field. Presumably the training will absorb all that stuff.

I don't know. presumably the training will absorb all that stuff. I don't know. What about a lot of the big sanctioning bodies, for lack of a better term, getting on board with this whole like inequity in health care and like really drinking the Kool-Aid and like going hard and then any doctor who dares to disagree with them is now being disciplined or fired or whatever. Listen, I got COVID because of this stuff, right?

Right. I didn't meet the right stand profile to get the vaccine. It turned out to be a good thing that I didn't really want that mRNA vaccine, but I was taking care of COVID patients and they would not vaccinate me. In fact, it seemed like I was taking care of COVID patients and they would not vaccinate me. Yeah. My feeling is whether you're a school teacher in Glendale or – remember that story? There was a guy who worked for like the power company. It's a couple of years back.

And he's driving his truck and he like puts his hand out the window and he's like cracking his knuckles or doing something and someone goes, oh, he gave the white power sign. And then they go like, yeah, we got to let you go. You know what I mean? Like, here's my feeling on that. Why aren't more people fucking outraged that this is the new world order? The teacher says there's uh two sexes male and

female it's like you're out fired like somebody you know Sharon Osbourne defends a countryman who she you know who she's had a relationship with for 40 years and she's out like does that bother people and it's it's interesting because I it because all that is coming from the left, and all my friends on the left are sort of like, we disagree with it, but we're not going to say anything. No, usually what I get is, ah, these people are fine. They're not really canceled. Look at them.

They're fine. Well, Sharon Osbourne is fine, but that's still not the point. Do you know what I mean? I mean, that sort of ranks up there with when they, you know, there's a slip and fall, the fancy department store, and the guy's, you know, has done 70 lawsuits in his past. And then one of your asshole friends goes, they're rich. Just cut him a check. It's like it doesn't matter how much money they have it's it's is it right or is it wrong it's not they can absorb it or let the you know i'm

just gonna shoplift the insurance will take care of it you know it's like or you know the people go like i would never shoplift from a ma and pa store but i would do a big department store because they have insurance like stop thinking that way the guy shouldn't have left his backpack on the seat of his car if he didn't want his window broken. It's Toyota's fault that the converters are being stolen. Or it's Kia's fault for making their cars too easy to steal. So notions of right and wrong have shifted, have changed. Okay?

Right. shifted have changed okay right what i'm saying is is the problem where are where are all the voices who claim to be sort of libertarian on these things that are watching people getting fired from their jobs and thrown out of the military and not able to fly airplanes because they wouldn't take a vaccine where are your voices voices, is what I'm saying. Those voices are at least able to speak up now. They weren't even able to speak up before, so they're starting to be heard. But the bigger problem is, what's the overall

plan? Because a lot of these things are going to unravel civilization, right? They really are contrary to living amongst one another. And that's my concern. Ideas of right and wrong have shifted. That's a given.

Yes. All right. But anyway, Chris. How are you doing at Roofing? Great. I actually want to talk to Adam. Like, why do we look so down on the trades? I mean, seriously, all the guys I work with make more money than I ever made in health care and work half the time.

It's, you know, I'm in sales, but between Adam Carolla and Mike Rowe, like, why aren't we pushing the trades more? Adam's been pushing it for years. Oh, I know that. I've been listening to you guys forever. And that's why I'm curious because he always brings up roofing as the worst job in the world. I went from health care to roofing. brings up roofing as the worst job in the world. I went from healthcare to roofing.

But it's interesting, isn't it, Adam, that healthcare is more painful than roofing, right? That's what's happening here. Roofing is closer to the sun, and that's always bad when you're outdoors. All right. What's going on? Twenty-five years ago, when they were talking about music programs in high schools, I was yelling about what about shop class? 25 years ago. Okay. Number one.

Number two. I remember you talking about auto mechanic class. All of it. It's long gone. All of it's gone. All right. Number two, this is pushed by sort of coastal elites who never stop talking about college. And everyone with a microphone has a college degree.

Every politician, every pundit on CNN, everyone on TV, everyone with a mic, every teacher, all that kind of stuff. So they're just talking about their own group constantly. None of them have a background in this so there is no platform for guys who work they don't don't have microphones right so that's what you're getting you're getting a lot of it because there's a couple of mike rose and adam carolls out there but by and large everyone with a microphone doesn't talk um everyone who does who holds a tool doesn't, and the other people don't hold a tool.

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Again, that is Angie, A-N-G-I.com. All right. Line three, line three. Line three. Andrew. Yes. Hey, guys. Yeah. Hey, I was just curious about the Jamie Foxx stuff.

Because I swear I thought you'd say something, Adam, because it's just right up your alley as far as the way they reported it. But, like, the first day there was, like, reports. Okay, he had a stroke. And then, like, the next day, oh, no, health care, health care. And then the next day it's like, yeah, we saw him playing pickleball. And then finally it takes Mike Tyson saying, no, he's blind and paralyzed.

And then people go, then the reports start coming out and then they're like, if you look up Jimmy Foxx online, it's like, oh, here we go again with the conspiracy theory. It's like, you flat out lied over and over and over and then you call us conspiracy theories? It's just, I don't know, man. When did Tyson say that?

I think it was like last Thursday or something. And that's when it all kind of kicked off. And then, because, you know, everyone was like, he had a stroke, right? And then it was like, no, healthcare, healthcare. And then Tyson said something. You don't stay in a inpatient. First of all, there's two kinds of rehab units, rehab for psychiatric and substance, rehab for neurological and orthopedic. And the average lengths of stay for a bad orthopedic or neurological problem is about two, three weeks inpatient.

He's been in for months. That is a bad sign. That is just tragic. Then I did an interview with A.J. Benza who claims he talked to somebody in the room with him who talked about a severe neurologic injury. I couldn't tell from talking to A.J. whether it was a stroke or an intracranial bleed. He insisted that it was due to the vaccine because I guess he was in a production where he was forced to take the vaccine even though he didn't want to. No way to make that association or that conclusion. But we are seeing more strokes in young people and people are starting to wonder if it's something to do with the vaccine or the COVID or the vaccine plus COVID.

And, of course, we have no information from James Campin. Did he have COVID? Did he have vaccine? What's going on here, was it unrelated? We don't know. But he did apparently – I mean, it has to be a very serious injury to still be in an inpatient rehabilitation unit. Yeah. It's so sad.

Yes. It is. And people – I mean, it's like I always used to say or we say it. I've said it before. It's like, oh, the lead singer from the band Blur had to take a month off of touring for exhaustion and dehydration. You know, he's 27. Dehydration. Shut up. That's what we do. Now, what we have now is a media apparatus that needs to defend anything that may even have a whiff of a – was that a vaccine-related thing? You're not even allowed to ask is it COVID-related because it might lead to a question about the vaccine. Right. So what we didn't have in the past. So what we had in the past is when the lead singer from blah or whoever band had to stop

his European tour dates and cancel them because of dehydration. You had a lot of people in the media asking questions. Now you have people in the media defending it and attacking anyone who dares ask a question, which is in that that's the new world order. And that's the frustration for normal minded people like us. Like, hey, did this, you know, did the thing come from a lab or come from a wet market? I would like to know. Well, shut up. You're we're going to fire you.

You know, it's like that's the part I'm reacting. By the way next show i'm going to read you a thread from michael schellenberger about this issue something new coming up oh it's coming drew i told you yeah i told you yes and i told you uh your boyfriend fauci is going to be in some peril is as well that's what I told you a year and a half ago. And it shall be, and all of it shall be. It shall be. It's kind of like weapons of mass

destruction, right? No, no, there were weapons of mass destruction. Three years later, everyone's like, no, no, there weren't. It's going to take something like that, kind of a sea change. The COVID trajectory is the exact, it'll be the exact same trajectory

is corruption with the Biden family. It'll be the exact same thing, which is starts off with, oh, come on, get out of here. There's nothing. It's not even close to, okay, people make mistakes along the way or whatever. Two, smoking guns and documents and shit like that.

And by the way, not only nothing here, but we're attacking anybody. We'll attack anybody. We'll have experts. Right, right. For both subjects. And then two, there's irrefutable proof and documents and smoking guns and things with the same group sort of trying to cover up and slow boat and do all this stuff. But it's all coming. Yeah.

I've always said that. And it shall. Well, in terms of your crystal brain, is the press going to take a little bit of a responsibility? No, they won't take any responsibility. They'll start asking questions as if they were doing it all along. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. Perfect. All right. You can go to adamcroll.com. Coming up Friday, Monterey, California, Golden State Theater. Oh, that's beautiful over there.

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