The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1748 The First One Was So Nice, We Had To Do It Twice

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

Adam and Dr. Drew enthusiastically welcome back pornstar and comedian, Silvia Sage, to cover more illuminating discussions concerning favorite sex positions, obsessive fans, if Airbnb is ever used for certain filmmaking, becoming a MILF, and Silvia’s love of men. Plus, some spicy conversations about pheromones, compartmentalizing emotions, and a tantalizing confession as to what occurs in between takes on a porn set. Please Support Our Sponsors: SimpliSafe.com/ADS ForThePeople.com/Adam or Dial #LAW (#529 )

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We enjoyed her so much last week that we asked her for a second heaping helping of Sylvia Sage. Sylvia is a stand-up comedian. She's also an adult film star as well, and an interesting story. Yeah, we found out last time she worked in cardiology and chiropractic. I'm just curious what you did for cardiology. I was an x-ray technician. Not an ultrasound, but x-ray.

X-ray, yes. So meaning you would do the angiograms and stuff uh i would do uh when i worked in cardiology i would do the stress testing and uh ekg is kind of just assist the doctors is really what i did there so there's no imaging in that i'm curious your tech no that was the pet scans afterwards or anything. No. And chiropractic. Now that's where I was using the x-ray because I worked with a specialist that was only in a top cervical. So we did a very specialized 3D x-ray that we did there.

Interesting. But that sounds like a decent paying job. Not really. I was going to say I made more january this year than i made my entire last year of working in the hospital that makes perfect sense to me oh really but that means i mean you gotta you gotta be good for 55k a year at the hospital right it was a yeah it was around 70 a year at the hospital i just rounded down so that was a good january yeah great january is uh in terms of only fans um there's a basic

subscription and then we can do sort of ups and extras is that how it works yeah basically so it's a you know the subscription is like for the month you pay, you know, anything from $1.99 to $15.99. You can put whatever, you know, monetary amount you would like. And then they pay to message you. They pay to receive a message. And then they can request certain, you know, custom videos where you are saying their name or possibly in an outfit that they bought you. So, you know. Do you do private, private things, private shows.

So you technically can do like live shows on OnlyFans, but I don't do those very often and not typically one on one. You know, I know men and I'm just curious that they get obsessed and, you know, yeah. And you have to fall in love with you and all this stuff how often does that happen and how do you deal with it it happens very often uh the great thing about only fans is they have a lot of key words that you are not allowed to use so they're not allowed to ask to meet with you um so anything along those terms where it seems like you might be meeting in person uh only fans won't even allow you to send that message. So they cannot even ask any of that.

I'm guessing they find a thousand ways around that. They do. But I have very clever ways of, you know, letting them know that it's here. Deflecting. Keep the money coming. Interesting. First off, I know it's your business, but I always feel sorry for these guys. I'm like, really?

But we're giving them what they want. You know, I provide. I know that's the sad part. They want it. But then also, I'm the wrong person to ask for this. Also, I'm the wrong person to ask for this because I remember, you know, during the heyday of the sort of adult chat lines, you know, call and talk to talk to a young gals waiting for the phone to ring. I was single. You know, I was at the bottom.

I didn't have any money. I was as lonely as probably a guy could get. But I just never made sense to me to call. It didn't feel like I was too pragmatic about it or something. Well, maybe that's not your thing. A lot of people, the, the, the stimulation of hearing someone's voice is sexual, you know? So maybe that's just not for you. No, I, it isn't, but I'm trying to figure out why certain things are for certain people. For instance, with that. Yeah, I know. I mean, I liked hanging out at strip clubs as much as the next guy when I was in my twenties and that's, you know, just sitting there watching. You're not doing anything.

I would watch a porn as much as the next guy. So it wasn't all based in reality. There was fantasy involved. But I never liked comic books and I never liked like Pokemon or any like simulations of things. I didn't like video games I still don't I'm the only a male who just rejected video games like wholesale like that that's let's go out yeah and do something let's go jump off a roof into a swimming pool but let's not do a video simulation of it but i just i i and i'm curious about the wiring of guys that

are versus versus aren't i've never really thought about it what do you think i thought i think back then the the accessibility was the issue i mean these guys are masturbating. Let's face it. That's what's happening with these phone calls, right? And they really aren't calling for intimate connection, though it might kind of go there with some of these guys accidentally. But they are looking for it. They did not have Pornhub. They didn't have these easy access.

That was the easy access. And it all went away. Oh, back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. That all went away as soon in the day yeah yeah that all went away as soon as the internet stuff developed because that was a more complete uh sort of version of what they were looking for but even something like prostitutes which have been around for some time beginning of time yeah

that's what they say uh i don't know if they can verify that it's the oldest profession. Maybe Cobbler might be up there. But Candlemaker. Anyway, the point is this. I've never even thought about being with a prostitute because it didn't make sense to me. Well, right now, that's on the upswing. I'm hearing that. Yes, I'm hearing that now more than I ever. In all those years we've been talking to people, this is the first time in the year or so I'm starting to hear young males kind of is what they're doing. They lost options.

They've run out of options. Well, I would like to speak to that because I think you nailed it earlier on the head when you said, you know, it's the fantasy. I think that's exactly what, you know, porn is and even prostitution is, is you get to go and be with this fantasy person, you get to have this fantasy sex, and then they go away. So you don't have to have the awkward conversations afterwards, you know, about the weird things that you wanted to do in the bedroom. And I think that's the thing with pornography as well as, as you're not having to have the real conversations with your real partner going, do you mind pegging me? You know, they can have these fantasies.

To your point. So to your point, it's not just, it's not really about what they're telling me, the young ones anyway. It's not so much about wanting a conversation about what their specific fantasies are. It's that they were reared at a time when they were told they were toxically masculine and that any attempt and overture at going after a woman was met with you're a rapist. And so they were scared to do anything. Then they missed the usual milestones when you develop the capacity, the skill to date and break up. They just didn't do it because they were scared shitless. And God forbid you ever have a drink with a woman, thenents out of the question and they just never never did it and

now here they are now in their 30s they don't have the skill set they're still scared they still feel like they're going to be accused of something so like fucking prostitute that's it that's it interesting because that i mean i wouldn't see that take because I I don't feel that men, especially in their 20s or 30s, have a problem approaching women. I get approached all the time by men in their 20s and 30s. So it's an interesting take to hear you say that, because I always like we said last time, like I mean, Horowitz got thrown out of a bar for approaching a bar. And, you know, it's it's different. Do you get recognized when you're out and about? We're not at a bar. We're approaching a bar. And, you know, it's different. It's something that's going on. Do you get recognized when you're out and about?

All the time. All the time. Yes. That's interesting. Because there's a, I mean, it's kind of interesting. And there's two ways, I guess, you would be aware of that. One is an overt way, like somebody comes up to you you and the other is just somebody kind of looking at you in a way that suggests they recognize you. See, I wouldn't know if if they didn't come up and say something because I'm not really taking in the room that way.

I'm usually very present with the crowd that I'm with. in the room that way. I'm usually very present with the crowd that I'm with. Um, but I do have people come up to me almost every time I go out and come up and are you Sylvia Sage? So, um, yeah, it's back to these men that get obsessed. You ever get one of those guys show? Oh boy. What do you do? Uh, I've had a man show up to my home, knock on my front door. Oh my gosh. So, um, yeah, he got into my secure building and was able to come and knock on my actual door. What'd you do? Um, this gentleman in particular, um, was a little, uh, slow. Um, I don't think he had all of the social capabilities that most people have. And so I basically just let him know, like, this is inappropriate. You cannot be here.

Please leave. And he was very apologetic and, you know, really just wanted to give me the flowers that he had bought me. And I never felt a I wasn't in fear when he was there because I actually all already knew that there was, you know, a few things missing. That's interesting. It makes me wonder if, you know the the you know rate of autism is way up makes you wonder if folks that are autistic misread some of what you're doing on only fans and tend to be the ones more likely

that's what this was yeah that's what it sounds like and so i'm wondering if there's a growing group of them that are sort of, you know, you're obsessive fans, so to speak. Yeah. Was this an OnlyFan member? No. This was before I even had OnlyFans. Wow. This was just following me on regular social media.

I got a technical OnlyFans question. Yeah. Which I don't know if it's part of their charter but drew uh you're in your condo in new york city right yep and there are rules about airbnb you you can't airbnb it because you share the common walls with other folks in the complex and so on and so forth. It strikes me that a lot of OnlyFans people are working out of their place, right? Yes. And, you know, I sort of see the argument for Airbnb. Like, hey, if I lived next door in that building, I probably wouldn't like a new family sliding

in every three days and throwing parties, you know? And I would probably have some only fans thoughts too. If like my neighbor in the condo was a really successful only fans actress. And we share that. Yeah. Oh no. I might enjoy it, but it's also,

I would assume there might be some rules. Like there might be a knock on the door from the condo rules around producing porn. Right. Right. Now the cities have rules around producing porn right right now the cities have rules it sounds weird now is are that you get around all that being an only fans i mean i was very honest with my um it wasn't just a landlord when i got it but he has recently sold the building but uh everyone knows what i do They know that I do it from my home and they just are accepting of it.

And I'm respectful of my neighbors. I'm not doing anything outside. Everything I'm doing is inside. And it is usually just me. So there's a very rare occasion where I do have another performer and a camera crew, but that's very rare. Not a high turnover.

How do you, in terms of the performers, you must have strong opinions about who you work with. Of course. And a short list of folks you work with? Yeah, I would say I definitely have like my top 10, 15, maybe 20 people that I prefer to shoot with. But these are just people over the years

where I've made really good connections on set with these people. And it's normally because we're friends. We're really good friends, not necessarily because we have a sexual connection in any way. It's so interesting. Do you have to,

um, well, let me ask this. Do you, do you compartmentalize emotionally when you're doing this or are you able to just, so you're, you're able to kind of,

did you, did you dissociate? Um, I would say I, I definitely disassociate because I do go into a place of of acting. And and again, these are my friends. So I'm having sex with women who I would never even kiss on a typical basis. And then all of a sudden we are intimate together.

So I do just put it into a place of I'm making this movie and I'm making money. This is my job. Do just put it into a place of I'm making this movie and I'm making money. This is my job. So you have to be careful with dissociation because then it becomes a means of regulating all unpleasant emotions. Right. In the future, when you have intense emotions, you could fall into that. That's the big that's one of the big liabilities using that dissociative thing that comes from the trauma. That's the trauma thing.

that associative thing that comes from the trauma. That's the trauma thing again. But I'm curious, do you have to, and with your male friends, do you have to think through your market? In other words, do you have to create certain behaviors or anatomy? Are you premeditating all that in terms of trying to build a market in a certain area, or do you know where your fans want you to be or that kind of thing yeah so my fan base is basically uh i'm considered a milf even though i have no children um that is kind of the genre that i've been stuck in and so i think what you're asking is do i employ younger men to play my stepson or or things that you would

never like be interested in you know men with large phalluses or small phalluses or different kinds of positions or things you wouldn't otherwise do. You do it to satisfy the fan. Yes and no. So I will do a few things that are outside of what I would do with just one-on-one from my typical partner, but I do not do anything I'm uncomfortable doing. And that doesn't include exercise. I think that's what I was asking. Yeah. All right.

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As Drew was talking about your clientele and you were saying you're in the MILF category, but you don't have kids. So and the M for MILF is mother. And I thought, how many times has a woman done a porn movie and then uploaded it to Pornhub or some other place, thought it was going to be under sexy and busty. And turns out it was under plump and milf. And then it's got to be devastating to the woman who's like, I thought I thought I should be in the busty category. And you put me in the plumper category.

And obviously whoever's vetting it is just vetting it. Like they're just calling balls and strikes you know they're just going well you put on a couple pounds or I believe you would be more physically connected with this section than that section but the first time you get put in milf you know you got you know maybe you start off in at age 30 and you're just in the hotties department and then some point you get into hotties milf. But who puts you in milf? Who vetted that? And it's not an insult these days to be a milf.

But did you make that decision? No. That's what I'm saying. That decision. When I first got into adult, I had the quintessential porn agent that everyone assumes a porn agent to be just skeezy, treated women like they were numbers. And I really did not think I had a I didn't think I had the option to say no to a lot of things. So when he told me, you know, you're 30 and you have fake breasts, so that puts you in a MILF category and that's it. And so I thought, OK, this is the only way I will be able to work is by doing these MILF scenes. Right. So it was not my choice and I was quite offended by being honest. Yeah. But not as offended as if you thought you should get in the busty category and they put you

in the plumper category. True. That's all. All right. We're going to talk about pheromones and how that worked. I have strong feelings about it. My feelings are mostly about everyone over cleansing too much, too much, too much washing and scrubbing and scrubbing and washing. And it's all bad for you. Is it,

is it turns out. I mean, everything, just about everything, if you put the word big in front of pharma or big in front of government or big in front of farming or big in front of an industry, big in front of an industry, whatever it is they want you to do a lot of, you should do a lot less of it. That's basically what I've figured out. You have been clearer about that in the last like month than I've ever heard you. You know what I mean? And I think it's true. I think it's absolutely correct.

And I think it's interestingly in the day of things, people like RFK coming up and shining a light on the big pharma and all the crazy relationships and the regulators and the giant industries. I think this, I think the world is ready for that message. I think they believe it because the, the scales have fallen from people's eyes. It personally,

me too. It's happened to me as well. Well, they've been hitting us over the head with this cleanliness thing. And even look at it as it pertains to COVID. You can't walk 10 feet without passing a sign that says, wash your hands, wash your hands, wash, scrub. You know, I don't know whoever owns Lysol and Clorox and whatever.

Lysol and Clorox and whatever. How many units they sold of something we didn't need to wipe down surfaces so we couldn't spread COVID when everyone knew that wasn't how COVID was spread from Jump Street and they just kept going. And so don't do what they're telling you to do because what they're telling you to do makes them money and each time you do it you they make more money so they want you to do it all the fucking time big food big food it's it's they're they're monkeying with your satiation and addictive biology all the time right so i'm not down with all the rubbing and the scrubbing and the sanitizing. I don't believe in it. I know it has consequential effects downstream. I know it. Look,

using Purell on your kid is really the same as saying shut the schools down for two years. Like, OK, but get back to me in a few years and tell me how it worked out. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I agree with you. And actually that's why I left the medical industry is because I worked front and back of the house. So I saw how insurance worked and I, you know, I'm watching, I'm watching these doctors just, it was, it was to the point of, I always told people the medication that you're getting might not be the best medication for you.

It's whatever rep, whatever med rep brought the best lunch that week. That's the medication we got. And that's what you're getting. So it has nothing to do. Just so you know, that's over now. That's thankfully. I hope so. But the flip side of that, the other version of that that goes on in this day is this may not be the best medication for you, but this is the one your insurance pays for.

Right. So pheromones. Interesting. How's that? What's your take on that? I do think that there's a science behind pheromones. I think it's it's, you know, very real. I am a shower. I'm sorry, Adam. I do. I do all the scrubbing that you don't appreciate, although I don't wash my hair every day. So maybe I just smell through there. But I do, especially in pornography, I think cleanliness of these areas in particular are very important. But the natural pheromones that you would get from somebody, I don't think I'm necessarily, again, I'm disassociating when I'm in that. So I'm not necessarily even looking or smelling or feeling to have that innate attraction that a pheromone. That's interesting. That's interesting. So the real arousal doesn't really happen. Has, has, um, you're, I, you know, when women become get in the sex industry or stripping and stuff, I always worry that they're going to see men differently.

They're going to see men as just disgusting, really. Oh, how do you avoid that? Or is that just where you end up thinking? No, I have such an appreciation for men. I love men. I love meeting men. I love dating men. I love sleeping with men. I love talking to men. I love men. I love meeting men. I love dating men. I love sleeping with men. I love talking to

men. I have a very healthy appreciation of men. And I know a lot of people think because I work in sex, I don't have a good relationship with my father. I do. He's my best friend. I also have a great relationship with my brother, also my best friend. So I have a very good appreciation for men. I don't think of them in a bad light at all. I think we're all just human and we're all trying to figure it out. If you met a man and you thought, oh, man, there's some potential here. Maybe this one's the one, so to speak. Would you be super upfront about the industry you're in, like before the salad showed up?

I tell people what I do in the same breath I tell them my name. I have zero shame in what I do. In fact, I'm very proud of what I've done in the life that I've built from it. So you know what I do before you even ask me on a date. You know, I having, you know, I mean, if you remember Adam, Ricky Rackman dated Janine Lindemiller back in the day. And I, and I,

through them, I met a bunch of people that were trying to have relationships in the industry and it always fell apart. If you met somebody you really loved, would you ever consider just not doing partner stuff on your only fans? You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what I figured.

Yeah. Now I would I figured. Yeah. Now I would hope that they would join me and be my partner on my own. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, there you go. Even think about that. Yeah.

I didn't, I didn't contemplate that either. Oh, what is, uh, in terms of, uh, partner stuff,

I, you know, we keep talking about partners and then I keep thinking they're all men. Right. But then I realize they're not. But then I don't know what percentage are men versus women. Honestly, I probably have more sex with women than I do with men, just because that's kind of what my fan base is looking for. And that's what I get a lot of requests for. And my girlfriends

in the industry are also very well-known porn stars. So for them, for my male audiences to see these two very big porn stars, that's what they're looking for. Not necessarily a POV of a penis. How does one become a very well-known porn star these days when it seems so saturated? Longevity. And is it, are you very well known through one of these big aggregators like Pornhub or something? Is that, what would be the number one platform? I guess if you, you know, if you said to a podcaster, they'd go, well, you want to be number one on iTunes or something like that. And then people will know you.

What would be the porn version of that? Working for the big companies. So obviously, like Brazzers is a number one company. So if you're working for Brazzers and, you know, they contract a lot one company. So if you're working for browsers, and you know, they contract a lot of people. So a lot of my best friends are contracted with browsers. And that is one of the main mainstream companies that a lot of people will go to and see and they hire the same people time and time again. And I've worked for them for many years myself. So it's that and the longevity of it because it's just like anything

else in Hollywood. I mean, if you, you know, somebody puts out one great song, you know, they're like, okay, that was great for a year. And then we forget that person exists. But if they keep putting out content year after year after year, of course, you're going to know who they are, because they they're still here, they haven't gone away i always say that i've never been good at porn my success comes from never going away i guess we could uh discuss positions as i'm thinking about. What do you think the number one porn position is? Well, a porn position and a sexual position for enjoyment are two very different things. Yeah, I'm talking about for viewing. What do you think the number one position, male, female, position would be for viewing?

So we'll call it reverse cowgirl is the best for viewing almost zero pleasure oh really i've heard on both sides even from the males it's not a very comfortable position either but because it opens everything up to the camera and the camera can be directly there seeing all the penetration. I had say, I don't know, like I've never checked the stats. I'm sure it exists, but you must then go, OK, we've got to go through. I mean, you have to have a hit list, right? You go, we're going to start here. We're going to end there. Yes.

You go, we're going to start here and we're going to end there. Yes. Every porn movie will tell you to have, you have to have at least five positions and each position you have to stay in for a certain amount of time. So yeah, it is very regimented. I know what I'm doing the entire time. Will they put a clock on you? No, but you get to kind of know. It's five minutes in each position.

So you get to kind of know how long five minutes is. And especially with comedy, my timing is pretty good. If for whatever reason you don't realize it's five minutes, the director will do this. And he'll go, switch it up. It's time to move. Oh, I see. Wind it up. Interesting. Oh, time to move. So, oh, I see. Wind it up. Interesting.

So it is interesting. How much starting and stopping will would there be in an average porn shoot? A lot. So if you're talking about just the sex portion, which is usually what people want to know, I would say we have sex for anywhere from 20 to 40 minutes that we need of actual footage. So in between that 20 to 40 minutes, you usually stop four times usually either to get water or to get lube or just to change positions and do it off of camera because the position is going to be very awkward to get into. Maybe you have to climb on a table or, you know, get to a weird place.

So there's a lot of cutting for stuff like that. And for cameras to move, for lights to be moved, there's a lot of stopping and going. I always wondered how much sex goes on even when they're moving things around. Like, do you just stop and sort of risk losing the momentum? Or like back in the day when the film canister would run out, would you just keep going? That's not your day, but I'm just saying. And then it becomes weird because if the camera stops

and you're still having sex, now you're just having sex. Of course. So it can go one of two ways. So sometimes I will stop and I will, you know, go get water myself or use the restroom or whatever. But I always say

the best sex on a porn scene comes when the director yells cut because then you can have sex. But then we get to have real sex. So there's a lot of things that are not allowed to happen in pornography, one of which is called man blanketing. So anytime you're not open to camera where they cannot see the full view of the woman's body, that's called man blanketing. So you cannot be on top of the person. when they, you know, they yell cut and everyone is kind of doing everything to keep having sex with your partners or one to keep him erect for, you know, keep myself in it as well. But really, because that's the only time you're enjoying it. That's the only time where I get to grind my clit

on a man, which we know most women, you know, cannot get off without the clitoral stimulation. So that's a time where we actually get to have real hot sex and then they yell action and then we're back into a weird position opened up and it's uncomfortable again. Interesting. The survey shows doggy style to be by far the favorite, regardless of gender orientation. All right. Well, you because you're candor, you earned yourself a plug. Sylvia, sexy, funny, raw with Sylvia Sage. And you can find it wherever you find her podcasts.

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