The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1770 Changing Times

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

Dr. Drew hosts today's show again with friend and former Loveline co-host Mike Catherwood as they describe some previous films that would most certainly not be made today amidst evolving societal norms as well as the current reality with cancel culture. Dr. Drew shares what aspect of ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’ he’s horrified by. Both men transition to varying viewpoints on health and diet and exercise as they discuss hormones, stem cells and PRP therapy, personal cancer experiences, carnivore diet, and more. Dr. Drew accepts a call with questions about diabetes management. Please Support Our Sponsor: Angi.com

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At Mike Catherwood What are you smiling about before the mic's heated up? You were laughing about something already I like doing this, this is my pleasure zone This is what I, you know, people Always ask me like Oh, what are you what are you into are you an actor are you I was like no I like having conversations professional conversations is where I feel feel my zen yeah I'm with you I dig it too I like I like interacting with people um tell people we you

and I did uh we use the you live moniker a lot when in stuff we've done including on loveline explain to people what that was and and emmy i don't know if you guys can find this well have mike explain it and then you go look for it there's a scene in boogie nights which is a perfect film there's not many perfect film but the the comedy is laugh out loud funny the the touching moments are tear jerking. It is a perfect, beautiful film. But there's a scene towards the end where Dirk Diggler, Mark Wahlberg's character, has been replaced by the new up and coming porn star guy. And he this porn star guy portrays a new character called Johnny Doe.

And and he's filming one of his movies. And in said film, he has a gun to a girl's head while she's filleting him and and he's gonna shoot her if it is not a good enough sesh and he's like yeah and then he just goes yeah you live bitch you live and i was so blown away at how gross and preposterous it was. And the fact that he, by the way, he doesn't lead off with, yeah. He leads off with, yes, bitch. Yeah. And I'm like, wait, what? This guy's bananas.

So one day I came into Loveline. In homage to that. Yeah. I just watched it. And I introed the show. Board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. I am Mike Hathaway. Welcome to Love Line.

You live. And Dr. Drew's like, wait, what is this? Where did you live? What's that all about? I explained it to you and then it became like our mahalo. It became mahalo. It became aloha. And then it developed a life of its own.

My wife picked it up and put a hashtag out and it just started. I don't think anybody understands what it was attached to because I don't think it would have quite the life. No, it's the worst. Yeah, it's the worst. In fact, we had a female employee at KABC who was like mad at me for a long time. Who was that? Who was it? That's funny. I don't remember her name.

Oh my god. That's hysterical. Once I got married, I stopped remembering any woman's name. I'm serious. I rarely remember men's names. She just came up to me. She's like, how dare you guys promote that horrible thing? I was like, well, we're not promoting that.

In fact, we kind of made it. Tell me. I don't remember. If you told me, I don't remember this. I think I would have remembered it. That's kind of weird that somebody would. I don't know how else to describe. Like, we better just move on because, like, there's no upside to me.

Like, well, do you remember this woman? No, no. I don't want to know who it is necessarily. I just think it's such an – she wasn't kidding? No. And she said – I said, no, you got to understand, Drew and I took that from that grossness, and we made it into something actually really beautiful. Like, you live. Like, don't give up.

It's using irony to make a point. It's being ironic. And she's like, no, no, that was a guy who was threatening to kill a woman for sexual pleasure. I was like, no, no, no, for sure gross. Yes, that's the point. But it was so gross. Yeah. pleasure i was like no no for sure gross yes that's the point so gross yeah oh this is that is early days of of uh cancellation then because people were so sensitive that you couldn't be

funny it's funny and it's calling it's it's it's taking something awful and calling it into into um how would you say this highlighting it in such a way that it it's it's we make it we defang it we defang it by by using it in ways that are not gross but but amplifying the grossness at the same time otherwise people would miss it people might even not even see it have we not sort of brought it up i'm sure carola's talked to you about this right thousands of times often on the air but i don't really think that like shithead hipster guys and women understand how comedy can be at breaking down those barriers like it was one of the strangest things i say yeah my loved ones like people my friends that are jewish or black or gay the things I say to my loved ones, like people, my friends that are Jewish or black or gay.

The things I say to them are so horrible. And by and it goes back to me all because I love them and I care. And it genuinely makes us feel a sense of connection because you I would never in a million years think to sincerely say that to another person, even if they weren't Jewish or black, I would never say, but because I care about the person and everyone laughs, everyone laughs. It's, it's, I'll never, the best example I ever saw was when Robin finally, Robin Quivers finally came out that she was going to be okay after her cancer scare. Yeah. And it was like, you know, I think people were in studio were actually tearing up. Yeah.

They were so happy. They were so celebratory. Yeah. Howard was clearly very touched. Gary and, you know, Sal, everyone was coming in and be like, Robin, we love you. We're so happy that you're going to make it. And Yako the Clown called up and said, Oh, Robin, you know, I love you. And I'm just so happy happy you're going to be OK. I was saying my prayers for you real quick. Was your cancer a water melanoma? And everyone laughed so hard, like seriously, so hard. Like everyone stopped the kind of the crying in them and people were everyone was uplifted by it. Like it was perfect. Yeah. Just say that to a random black person would be insane.

But because their shared love, their the power that that has, you know, it's really – I was watching Airplane of the Day. By the way, it holds up. It's a 50-year-old movie. It holds up. You know, I was watching the original airplane scene by scene. I saw this online. There's an original airplane that it's fashioned after. Yeah.

And it's almost scene by scene. Even the script is almost exactly the same except at the end they go sideways. Right. Yeah. So you ought to look at the original. The original will make you laugh out loud too now in retrospect. And look, cancel culture has its value. I mean I was watching American Pie the other day and I was like, you know what?

We shouldn't celebrate this. These guys are sexual predators and everyone's like, oh, hysterical. Hidden camera in the girl's room. How about Fifty Shades of Grey? I was screaming about that back then. She signs a slavery contract to be a slave. That's so empowering to women. Jesus.

But I was watching Airplane and it's like when when they the black guys are speaking jive and they're like, does anybody speak jive? And Barbara Billingsley comes up like that. There's nothing that is perpetuated in a negative way, but there's plenty that gets torn down. Everyone on set was probably dying laughing. It's funny. You know, that's the way i look at it and i'm sure there's plenty of people that are going to hear that and be like you're just an a-hole that wants to make an excuse for being an a-hole and i say no i would never in a million

years say something to someone to intentionally hurt their feelings i never would regardless if it was racial or sexual uh their sexual proclivities were involved i I just wouldn't want to do that. But to have fun with it, I think there's a lot of value to it. Well, that was the astonishing thing to me throughout the entire sort of, gosh, the pandemic and everything and the cancellation times and even the Me Too was that comedy was forbidden. And I kept saying, Adam and I both said it, where are the comedians? They're the ones that are supposed to take this on. And they were sort of, not only were they silent, some of them were like championing it or keeping it going, making it worse. It said a lot about a lot of people that I thought I was a big fan of.

And I was like, what? Right? Like Lenny Bruce is literally rolling over in his grave like literally yes yes carlin and bruce are are just like spinning in their graves hicks hicks those guys who were like really had to worry some lenny bruce was like imprisoned for the fact that he wanted to be able to say whatever he wanted. He's like, this is America, right? Like last time I checked and I, you know, it's very scary. I also like, I think the internet saved standups because now they can just be like, well, you know, I'm going to do my set and you, I don't need your HBO special. I don't need, cause I can make my own money.

Yeah. But when genuinely, when was the last time there was like a comic like a big blockbuster comedy movie the machine and but like even that had to be neutered kind of you know what i'm saying like when was there like when was the last like super batter you mean or yeah oh my god i'm laughing so hard well that's true yes it's so it's definitely um low class and people could look at it as sophomoric but like just balls to the wall comedy that no studio is going to make that shit and that's sad it's sad man so we you and i were talking a little bit about louis ck last time and some of the stuff that happened to him and And I got to meet him at Tim Dillon's house.

I went to a party there. And, oh, my God, he's one of the most engaging people I've ever met. I really – He's fiercely intelligent. I mean, he's a really smart guy. So interesting. It's such a pleasure to talk to. And I was like, oh, my God, I just want more from this guy.

This is a national treasure sort of thing. And I was talking to him. I forget what I brought up. I was talking to him about, it seemed like about a half hour. And my wife is about eight feet away with some other folks there. And we were in a car on the way home. And I go, yeah, I was talking to Louie about something. And she goes, Louie? Who's Louie? And I go, Louie CK? He was standing right next to you? She goes, what? I go, he was standing right next to you.

She goes, huh? Huh? You know, so funny. By the way, proud Mexican. I know. He's a Mexican. No, I know he is. We talked a little bit about that when I was talking to him, too, about, you know, what languages languages he spoke and stuff and what was like to come here and i melted a bitch's brain with that

oh they didn't know uh she was all about and by the way if you notice all it's mostly white men that are going down with this me too and uh she goes down the list she's like and jerry pivot and harry weinstein and louis yeah well louis mexican she's like shut the she was mad at me like no louis like mexican from mexico Mexico city yeah and uh she's like shut up she's yelling at me and like i brought my phone i wasn't even trying to be a dick i brought my phone showed her and like i was like i watched her brain like like short cognitive dissonance everybody that's what that is it is alive and well people cannot get their head around reality. And I bet you

that if you were to bring him up again, she would have forgotten that conversation. Oh, yeah. Nothing matters anymore. Like, you don't have to make sense. You don't have to have facts to back up your argument. And by the way, not even with serious shit, dude.

I see through my website through my podcast and through going to other people's shows like uh with nutrition and training you don't have to make sense you just say shit now and if people get behind it you know they they like if it makes if it makes people feel good they they're like, yeah, you're right. I'll be like, wait, hold on. Yeah, I have – It's a purely objective standpoint. Yeah. I just think we are so far gone in this country in terms of our fitness and diet.

I just need to get them to do something. You know what I mean? I want them to work out. I want them to follow a diet. I want them to eat consciously. I mean, that would be a vast improvement over where we are right now. You're in the weeds. You and I like the weeds stuff for ourselves, but for the public at large.

That's important to point out because Instagram and TikTok have destroyed people. If you're on the couch right now, and I don't even mean like you're out of shape. I mean, you're just a regular person and you're like, you know, I've kind of put on a couple. I've let myself go a little bit. I want to get it back into it. you know, I've kind of put on a couple, I've let myself go a little bit. I want to get it back into it. You, because of TikTok and Instagram, people think, and by the way, I have conclusive proof of this because I've gotten the DMs, I've gotten the emails and they're like, Hey, I've been doing your workout. I see the stuff I see you put up on Instagram. And I, I just, man,

I can't take it, you know? And I go, well oh give me some breakdown what what is your and they're like oh i'm six one 280 uh i'm 48 years old i haven't worked out really in 20 years i go whoa whoa yeah yeah i was like i'm a nerd that has never missed the workout in 25 years like you like they're my shit is not for you and they people go on tiktok you see on instagram these people with millions of followers who are doing all these elaborate things. And that is – that's not fitness. Fitness is for you to progressively grow and overload yourself to where you're at. It's relative to your ability.

And if you're 100 pounds overweight, honestly, get out and walk every day and start cleaning up your diet. Things will work out. And then from there, you play it by ear, you know? You know, you got me on Carnivore. That was you did that. And it turned out I gained like 13 pounds. And I wasn't aware of it. And so I've been doing this V-Shred thing that Susan is all about and lost 13 pounds.

And so I'm just getting, again, getting on a more balanced, you know, watching it. But for someone who's not overweight, that's a dangerous place to be in because maybe you shouldn't have lost 13 pounds, you know, like having done No, I feel a lot better. I feel a lot better. I was, something was not, I knew something was not right. And I just.

You are a fuck because you'll be like, I'm doing carnivore. I was like, yeah, but you had 43 ounces of ribeye in one sitting. Well, but that's why i'm doing carnivore i was like yeah but you had 43 ounces of ribeye in one sitting well but that's why i was doing carnivore you're doing carnivore i understand but that's why i was doing carnivore because it was like and by the way it straightened out my cholesterol i probably have lp little a you know this thing that uh that i definitely have insulin resistance but probably lp little a too which gives you you a low HDL and high triglycerides. And when I got off carbohydrates that reversed completely. Oh, absolutely.

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Oh, no, but not last time we talked, but I am now, yeah. I wish. I really want to do that. I'm on an incredibly low dose, though. But let me point out to you young men out there who are like, oh, well, he's taking steroids. No, I'm taking 90 milligrams a week of testosterone sip and eight that is what do you think of people come getting on rfk for probably about the same amount i i think listen what i would never ever in a million years go online or go out in the press or even in my personal life

and go talk shit about what people are doing for like black rights or uh or or giving birth like child rearing you know why got no shit about it i don't know shit i don't know what the experience of a black person in america is i don't know i don't know what it's like to give birth. I have no. And yet everyone will crack off at the mouth about about hormones, about anabolic and androgenic hormones. They have no fucking clue what they're talking about. And they think that a 50 year old guy using 50 milligrams to 100 milligrams a week is the same as Mark McGuire. Right. And you you You genuinely don't know what we're talking about, right? Can we start this conversation? I think they weirdly

associate it with cheating. Somehow you're cheating. I would say that to me, that's like... I'm not in the UFC. I'm not cheating. What am I cheating at? Being a guy? Not only that, is it cheating to take thyroid hormone when your thyroid becomes deficient? It's the same fucking thing.

It's the same thing. A friend of mine the other day, he was in jujitsu the other day. He's training. A young guy sat there with his albuterol. Yeah. Is he a cheater? No, he has fucking asthma. Yeah.

Okay? I'm older now. I don't want to just fall over and die and be the turn in my chips. I live in a pretty physically demanding lifestyle. And I can't do that with 200 testosterone. I can't do it. It's impossible. Your testosterone is 200?

I probably was in that ballpark. Now it's not. Now it's probably 800. Dude, mine is 800 to 1,000 naturally, which is weird. No, no, it's not now it's probably 800 dude mine is mine is eight to eight hundred to a thousand naturally which is weird that may be no no it's not weird maybe where the passion may where the passion comes from that's where the passion goes but also like a lot of like manliness cannot be necessarily measured by testosterone i i and this is not i'm speaking to defend myself but i have friends who are like professional mma fighters who are like former Army Rangers and stuff who have like 200 testosterone.

Yeah, yeah. But your testosterone is low? You're the manliest dude I know. So, I mean – Yeah. It's a weird thing. It's what's normal for – that's the thing about testosterone. We don't really know what's normal for a given individual.

The range is 200 to 1,200 really. Yeah. But I think – I still feel different obviously than I did when I was obviously, you know, 30. But and so I would love to take a little whiff of something, but I'm afraid to because of my prostate cancer. I was really thinking. I would be, too. I would be, too, if I was you. And but, you know, and then also another thing I would like to point out, I'm doing it under medical supervision.

I quarterly get my blood drawn and have a professional endocrinologist examine it. I'm getting my blood drawn like bloodletting because I know my hemoglobin and my red blood cells are going to be higher. And there's a big difference between that and being like a 25-year-old guy who's just poking stuff in his butt so that he could be jacked. Which you've also been. You've done that. I did that. I did that. be jacked which you've also been you've done that i did that i did that i i by the way i think that's another reason why my testosterone did end up getting lows because i destroyed my hypothalamus

and i destroyed my my hormonal system your test you shut down your testes completely for a long period of time and they they have trouble recovering you know they can only you know it's it's not now it's not natural when you do when you fuck with the hormone system like that, it has permanent effects. So one of the reasons I'm bringing all this up is my shoulders are fucked. Fucked. So I finally got them evaluated, right? And so I see this guy that was a faculty from University of Washington. He does an ultrasound.

He goes, okay, bicep tendon shot, gone, torn, scarred, rotator cuff torn, scarred, gone, everything, gone, gone, gone, gone, AC joint gone. And he goes, do you want to get an x-ray and see how the joint is? I go, look, I know it's all soft tissue. I put my hand on it. I feel it. My joint's going to be fine. Don't worry about that. He goes, why don't we take a look?

My joint is destroyed. Huge, huge. The cartilage is all gone. Huge spurs. It was just, I was like, oh, my God. This is a disaster. I couldn't believe it. And so I'm getting, this guy does stem cells and PRP.

And claims 90% improvement in this stuff. It's amazing. In terms of holding off a shoulder replacement, which I do not want to do. So wait. So I have a story to tell you. Okay. So my knee was fucked. Bad.

Bad. Not only could I not squat, I couldn't walk hardly. I'd be in jujitsu and someone would just grab my collar. And the pressure of someone pulling down on my shoulders hurt my knee so bad I could hardly walk. So I was like, I need to get this. And I was pushing off because I was like, they're going to want surgery. So sure enough, meniscus is like destroyed, ripped apart. And I go, do I need surgery?

Doctor's like, well, that'll be the quickest solution. But I do have prolozone and the platelets and the stem cells, and we can give it a shot. And you want to check and see if it's covered by your insurance. And it turns out it was. So I was like, yeah, fuck yeah, let's do this. So I go in to get it in my knee. And this doctor pulls out a needle like the cartoons. Well, that's for the bone marrow.

Yeah. I had to go through my kneecap. Well, not through your kneecap. It's alongside your kneecap. Yeah. I had to go through my kneecap. Well, not through your kneecap. It's alongside your kneecap. Yeah, but underneath, like in my meniscus. Yeah. Dr. Drew, this needle was a foot long. No, I've done those injections.

I'm good at them. I know how to do it. And I was like, huh? And he's like, don't worry, actually. I'll freeze it. It won't hurt that bad. I was like, I'm not really worried about hurt. It can still hurt.

I'm worried about just that being in my body. It can still hurt you get that inside it's like it hurt like a motherfucker so he said it's he said it won't hurt i'll freeze it up but it'll be uncomfortable yeah i'm like all right so i sit back like this like i'm just talking to this nurse who was like the worst possible situation she was like a pretty attractive younger woman. And he puts it in. He's like, how are you feeling? I was like, you know what? You're right.

It's not that bad. And I woke up on the floor. Frankenstein arms and shit. He said I look like I got shot by a sniper. Were you seated? You weren't lying down. I was seated. I was seated like this but somehow i i was on my back and like and like my my muscles and my arms and shoulders were all sore because i was like this you had a you had a hypotensive seizure

that's i guess so yeah so your blood pressure bottomed out and then you had a seizure oh my god that's too funny and did they finish the injection yeah and then uh he's like okay that's one of four i'm like i'm not fucking coming back i'm gonna figure this out on my own oh did it help back now my that was like two years ago my knees better thank goodness but well i'm having the full i have to have four injections too i have to have i have to have four injections two rounds of four ones with the stem cells one one with the PRP. And it's AC joint, bicep, rotator cuff, shoulder joint. And I'm looking forward to it. It's amazing what they're capable of doing, though, non-invasive surgery.

Yeah. Well, these are all mesenchymal cells. People have this magical way of thinking about stem cells as though you can put them in your body and they'll magically go where they need to go and restore. You can't really do that except you can with mesenchymal cells and joints because the mesenchymal cells go right to the cartilage and conform cartilage. Well, that's where most of these ankle, knee, shoulder injuries for athletes are coming from. Barring tearing a hamstring, which tends to be pretty popular, it's mostly knee, knee, shoulder injuries for athletes are coming from. And barring tearing a hamstring, which tends to be pretty popular,

it's mostly knee, ankle, shoulder injuries. And that's been so helpful in that regard. Yeah. So I will report back. So you mentioned TikTok a few times. I've always thought it was odd that you didn't send me TikToks because you send me Instagrams. I got to be honest.

And maybe I'm making a huge career mistake, but I don't go on TikTok. I knew it had to be that, because if you were there, that shit would be raining down on me too. Well, yeah, it would, because there's a lot of hot chicks on TikTok. But most hot chicks on TikTok are on Instagram as well.

Of course. But I don't do TikTok, not because I know, like for especially it's it's great business i just feel like i'd be a loser like i i like to embrace the fact that i'm a grown-ass man and i feel like that's for kids college-age kids teenagers and tiktok and have fun do it you know like tiktok it's the same thing when i hear like the comics nowadays like they're my age and they're like, that's right, fam. It's lit. And I'm like, what the fuck?

Yeah. What do you mean? No, I swear that guy sucks. I'm like, what are you? 12? What the fuck? Sucks. You're a 10-year-old man.

It's cap. I don't know. I've never been that guy. I've always been really guarded against trying to pretend that I'm something. I'm not a young guy. I'm not hip. I'm not. I'm an old man and that's fine you know did you guys find the you live video by the way emmy did you come across that oh let's let's play it for people you can also find if you did if you

had trouble you could also find it in the intro to mikey likes you which is now the the tell tell them can you see what they're what they're putting up right now put it up again i do not wait hold on hold on here you'll see it now it's further you see it they're putting up right now? Put it up again. I do not. Wait, hold on. Hold on here. You'll see it now. It's further. You see it now? It's further along from there, right?

It's literally right after this. Say that, Mike. What? We'll watch this too, though. It's right after this. All right. We'll watch the whole thing. Here we go. Yes, bitch!

Yeah. That's it. That's it. Fuck me. Who's your daddy bitch you live yes there it is where's that guy's Oscar

so the yes is after the you live we had that backwards I watched that like right before coming to Loveline one day So the yes is after the you live. We had that backwards. So there you go. I watched that like right before coming to Loveline one day, and that's where that all came from. Because if I did that, I was blown away. I said, how is that real?

How is that possible? Were you watching the whole movie? It leads off with yes, bitch. I know. Had you just seen the whole movie or something also? Oh, yeah. I've watched Boogie Nights. It is like a three and a half hour movie. I've watched Bo nights probably 500 times i could i could decide every line there's so many good lines in that movie yeah i'm just thinking

about all there was even great acting like william william macy and oh my god yeah the scenes where where mark wauber and that was like the beginning of his career the scenes where he's telling his mom just don't call me dumb stop calling me dumb and he's crying and she's drunk when he comes home and he's like you'll see i mean it's hard it's fucking when heather graham is like begging uh julianne moore she's like can i be can you can you be my mom and they're all coked out i was like oh my god it's fucking but then on top of that you couple that with the comedy. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. When he and John C. Reilly are making an album, the heat will rock you.

I'm like, how can this get any better? Well, yeah, you remember the famous story with Adam and Heather Graham. The best. Yeah. She mentioned to us that she was playing this new movie. It's about the porn industry in the 70s starring, you know, Burt Reynolds and Marky Mark. We're like, what? Who is your agent? And you play Roller Girl?

What the hell? By the way, let me point out. I'm in this new movie about the porn industry with Burt Reynolds and Mark Wahlberg in 1997. Yes. And a first-time director. This is the first time he's done a feature film. So I don't know. Adam was probably like...

Who was the director? She didn't mention the director. Paul Thomas Anderson's first feature film. Oh, no kidding. He did student films before that, but he'd never done a full-length studio movie. It's so funny. She didn't fight back either.

She's like, okay, I know. It's like, I know. Like a genius. Genius film. Genius. All right, let's take a quick call here.

This is from Balls. Hey, Balls. Hey, Balls. Dr. Drew, how you doing, man? Yeah, man. What's going on? I was wondering if you could give me some advice. I've been having some problems lately.

I actually recently got diagnosed with diabetes, and they put me on. I know it's popular right now. I know you heard of it with Zempix, but they put me on something that's in the same family called Moonjaro. And I was on it for about a month, and I was okay. And then I started getting, like, deathly sick, like, puking and shitting. Oh, yeah. Yeah, three or four days, like, all day and all night for, like, three we have three four days and like all day and all night for like three or four days and this that didn't happen just once yeah it happened three

times in the course of a month yeah so i mean the thing of it is is like they died when i caught it and it already did damage to my kidneys so i'm already kind of kind of under the gun so i can't i can't take it anymore i I don't know what to do. Should I ask them to put me on something else? Somebody told me if I tried something else, it might work. But I'm kind of nervous to play Russian with medications at this point. I thought you might be able to point me in the right direction. Okay, so are you overweight also?

Is that part of their goal? They're trying to get you to lose weight in addition to get the sugars under control? Well, I mean, I don't think that was the – yeah, I'm a mess for sure, but I don't think that was the ultimate. I think the ultimate goal was to try to get my diabetes under control ultimately. But, yeah, I mean, I'm sure that's a good benefit. When I was on it, I lost like 50 pounds or anything. Okay, good.

So part of getting the diabetes under control is getting rid of some of that adipose tissue because that's what is causing the type 2 diabetes. That's where the insulin resistance is coming from. And Manjaro is one of these, you know, it's Ozembic-like medication. It happens to have two dual action. It has an action in the gut and an action in the brain to decrease hunger. But one of the things all those drugs do is cause nausea. And I'm not familiar with causing diarrhea, but definitely nausea and vomiting can be one of those things. And you

absolutely should tell your doctor immediately. I don't know how bad the kidney injury was from the diabetes, but being dehydrated is not good for your kidneys either. So there are a hundred other things they could be doing to treat your diabetes, including trying other medications from that class. So by all means, immediately contact your doctor. And of course, you have to inject this stuff every week. So as your next injection comes up, really at least talk to the nurse, somebody at the doctor's office. Mike, do you have any input into this? Yeah, I wanted your take on, Drew, something like metformin that could kind of –

Metformin is where always you start with. I mean I start with metformin. I feel like him kind of bypassing more of the digestive stuff to deal with the glucose. And then also metformin has been shown to have a little bit more of a protective response with the kidneys and the liver. A hundred percent, which is why when I have somebody with type 2 diabetes, first move is metformin, first move always. But usually metformin – if somebody – I can – if he has bad enough diabetes that is hurting his kidneys, he – metformin is not going to control it. And if he's obese enough that – I'm sure the doctor was trying to hit two things

at once, get the weight down and get the sugars under control. And so that's what they were doing. It's a reasonable thing to have done. It's interesting to me that people would consider a Maduro first line these days. But okay. But go back and maybe see a diabetologist or an endocrinologist, but by all means, contact your doctor before anything else. What's that, Mike?

No, no. Again, this is a little bit above my pay grade. So I just wanted to throw that out there because at least one of the things I have seen is that people start using metformin and it not only doesn't affect the organ function, but it actually can increase the... Hey, look, metformin is associated with longevity too. And in a normal person, in a non-diabetic.

And I was bugging Peter Attia about that. Have you seen his new book, Outlive? I have. It's a great book. I screwed around with Metformin for a while. And absolutely, for longevity purposes, it's been shown to be great. And it does work. But one of the things that they don't tend to mention is that if you're involved in really strenuous exercise, it can –

Bottom your sugars. Plus detriment to your work capacity. So I wouldn't have access to glycogen that would be in my muscles that I normally would. That's right. And so I was bugging Peter Atiyah about this. I go, come on, what about metformin? And he finally kind of snaps over to me and he goes, vigorous exercise, vigorous exercise. That is the single most important contributor to longevity and a long life.

And I thought, all right, well, there it is. And blood pressure. People, they send me emails all the time, or DMs or questions, and they say blood pressure, or they say blood sugar, or it could be pre-diabetic, cholesterol. And I go, all, anything, anything of the above named will be profoundly positively influenced by just losing weight.

Yep, yep. And exercising. And exercising. What about this? What about that? I go, if you were to get within a reasonable body fat level and your BMI was normal, all of these things would get better and probably go away. And a lot of the like newfangled diet people, whether it be keto, plant-based, carnivore, they always have something. So the reality is, is like eating less calories than you burn over a long period of time. That's right. We'll have all those effects. All of the all-cause mortality will go down.

That's right. All right. We're going to take a little break, maybe a little 48-hour break, extendo break. And Mike will be back again on Friday. And you can find him at Mike Catherwood. And we will see you next time. Mahalo. And you can find him at Mike Catherwood.

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