The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1773 Downfall of Rolling Stone

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

Adam and Dr. Drew begin the show with Adam having some choice words and opinions on the downward spiral of Rolling Stone magazine over the years. From rock n’ roll, to articles lacking in journalistic integrity, Adam and Drew focus on various articles that particularly draw Adam’s ire. Please support our sponsors: Blindsgalore.com Enteraskincare.com/?rfsn=7630437.14cd90

Globally, humans are facing massive problems that are widely ignored by governments and the media. Like personal space invaders. I've had it with these couples that sit on the same side of the booth. Yak mouths. Stupid stick figure bumper stickers. Almond milk. You cannot milk an almond. Hi, I'm Jennifer.

And I'm Angie. We call her Pumps, and we're the hosts of I've Had It. Pumps, tell the listener where they can find us. Apple, Spotify, Amazon, or wherever you get your podcasts. Nailed it. See you next Tuesday. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. you're listening to the adam and dr drew show yeah get it on get to get it on the i got thoughts for you drew i got stuff too what's going on you first um i had a meeting

um the other day with somebody, a couple of women. And it's a long story and nothing to report. But at some point, I brought up how the act of homosexuality to average straight guys is repulsive. And I said, most straight guys, if you just popped your computer open and showed them gay porn, would put their hand up to block it. And she was a progressive lady, nice,

but she said, you know, I said, it's baked in. It's in a DNA. it's in straight guys dna and she said yeah but how much of that is society here we go and i said none of it i said listen uh dove has been trying to get us to think fat chicks are hot for about seven years now uh who's leonardo dicaprio fucking oneCaprio fucking? One of the Dove models? One of the hefty lefties on Dove? Or is he with a waif model? You guys, there's things you try.

We try as a society to do this. We can't do it. You think that, and I realize that's the sort of left's version of everything. Like society creates this, you know, little girls play with dollies and little boys play with trucks because society – it's like it doesn't work. Yeah, they can't get that out of their thinking. I think it's because they're atheists. Well, you're not allowed to say nature and nurture. You're not allowed to say both, which is – if you don't say both, you're lying.

Because it's just everything in human behavior and human experience is both. And exactly what percentage – I would say on average when you look at a disease state or look at like – even things like alcoholism, they're very behavioral. Or even certain cancers and things, the contribution of genetics is about 60%, just on average. It can be more or less, depending on the disease, but that number 60% seems to come up a lot. And so genetics, that's a significant piece of the contribution, right? Let me ask you, just way out of left field but here's a thought all right okay

when we do this show we have a countdown clock which gets reset but not all the time not all the time by any means and i frequently frequently things i ask for constantly that just you ask for it on a monday and they go okay, and then on Tuesday it happens again and then you ask for it again. So – but let's try to examine what that is. Okay. As you know, I try – everything to me leads back to a lack of mechanics and repetition and sort of industrial stuff, right? And so here's an interesting premise, which I don't think it's going to throw anybody under the bus. I think it's an actual excuse for the behavior. What I notice from working with people who do not live or work or don't

have any experience in the mechanical world is a lack of repetition and protocol. Now- Procedures, procedural repetition. Procedures. So here's what I'm saying. Because when you're in a world that is sort of digital, you could be looking up something on your computer one second. You could be getting coffee for somebody the next second. You could be printing something out the next minute. In the mechanical world, it's like when you're hooking up a trailer to a truck, you don't forget to put the hitch chain on you know what i mean like but

that's the equivalent to what everyone does right that i know yes but when you're in the mechanical world it is like changing a saw blade you know first off you get hurt things you will get hurt if you fold an A-frame ladder out, but you don't push down the two arms that stabilize in the middle and they're still kind of buckled up. You will fall off that. That ladder will collapse. The blade will come off. Like, you know, when you change the blade on a skill saw or hypoid saw,

you unplug the saw. You just unplug it yeah uh you don't leave it to chance yeah you just unplug it and you unplug it every time yeah because you don't be halfway into changing a blade and have something kick on somehow so when you're hooking up a trailer when you're changing a blade when you're setting up scaffolding, it's like this, this, this, and this, and it's every fucking time. So hold on. So this is really interesting because in the world we live in, we have steps. We have steps we have to go through to get the Word document up. But steps and procedures are completely different.

In steps, there's no consequence for getting the steps out of order other than you don't get where you want to go. With procedures, you don't follow procedure. Fucking who knows? You get hurt. You don't know where we end up. It really has downstream consequences that steps, which is that we live in the world of take this, follows this, follows this, stepping as opposed to procedural steps. But what I have noticed is as I transitioned from the procedures and the mechanical world into the digital world, I kept the same mindset. Yeah.

Do this, do that, call. Okay. What time is a guest supposed to get here? 12.50. okay what time's the gas supposed to get here 12 50 12 30 you need to contact them every time to see where they are if they're running late blah blah blah yeah but the next day you'll come in and you'll go where's so-and-so i don't know it's like it's it's 12 45 i'm saying it's a procedure but the procedure now the procedure is more of a necessity because you will get hurt if you're doing tree trimming and you're on a hoist or whatever you're not doing the procedure is more of a necessity because you will get hurt if you're doing tree

trimming and you're on a hoist or whatever you're not doing the procedure but there are procedures that are not necessarily mechanical i live in the world of procedural processes and somebody will get hurt if the procedures aren't followed that's the risk right but it's not mechanical i live in the world of you know right well Well, it can be medical. I mean, it can lend itself to other things. I'm just saying, is this based on the new digital world? Something like that. There's some- It's certainly contributing.

Connection. Some connection. As with most things, as you've said, not using your hands has effects. Oh, it definitely affects the way you think. And that's why we're having more and more kooky thoughts. You know, immediately my thought goes to, you know, in medicine, it's very different sitting in the classroom learning about something as opposed to going out in the clinics and working on something.

Totally different. And people don't even understand that difference. Speaking of what? Speaking of procedures, did you see the love boat? Dr. Bricker removed a woman's spleen. Yes, he did with somebody else on the speaker telling him how to do it. Yeah. I wanted to bring this whole thing up.

Can we finish the gay thing first really quick before we go to love boat? Okay. Which is that I've always said that the the feeling you get if you look at gay porn is the same feeling as thinking about your parents having sex somehow that same thing yeah for straight men yeah and i had i have a gay friend who was talking about something he was doing with his boyfriend i was like oh jesus and he goes and he actually helped me he goes what it goes it's natural two men have sex it's natural. Two men have sex. It's natural. Why do you require a little bit?

And I thought, all right, he's right. And it did soften my feelings a little bit about it. So you're able to overcome it even though it is kind of wired in. Well, listen, you can talk about it all you want because that's all guys do. That guy's a cocksucker. Getting his dick sucked by that dude over there, the boss. You know, whatever. But a brown noser, cocksucker.

Yeah, it's just seeing it has an effect. I get it. Right. In fact, you don't know. Maybe you forget this. I went down to Emory University when I was doing a show for Discovery where this doctor was doing functional MRI scans on men and women in their response to sexual images, right? And men had immediate arousal, immediate drive, immediate desire in response to,

if they were heterosexual, in response to heterosexual images. Women typically needed something more, and that more was they discovered intimate conversation. Interesting. But the other thing he found was straight men, when they looked at gay images, have a threat response. And so when I was in this, you're in this MRI thing and they're showing you pictures, they actually scan my brain. And I was like, oh, gay image is

interesting. I guess that's what they're doing. I had no conscious experience of it. And yet my brain was firing off like a bear was coming at me. It's interesting. It's subconscious, too. Funny that you said bear. That's subconscious also. Yeah, I

know. The bigger picture is the chick thinking it was a societal thing and then i realized this is what academia does it forces you to kind of intellectualize everything yeah you know without a kind of an element of remember i used to say all the time when people go i tell you to tell you on loveline 25 years ago when they'd go uh why do men build the buildings and women work is there i'd go because that's the way it is and they'd go what i'd go i don't know do you think there was a grand scheme that that started several hundred years ago or thousands of years ago

they do uh it's what is i'm not arguing with it. I don't know. More men are attracted to law enforcement and more women are attracted to the nursing profession or teaching kindergarten. That's fine with me. That's fine. Well, the unfortunate piece of evidence is in the more equitable societies

like their vaunted Scandinavia where there's equity between men and women, men and women, men and women go into more, they're more likely to go into characteristically so-called female and male disciplines. Yeah. Scandinavia, there are two things we learned from COVID, I learned. One was all the Africa talk, gone.

Silent, silent Africa talk. They never, when there's a pandemic, when AIDS hit, nothing but Africa talk. When COVID hit, zero African talk because everyone is young and skinny and on ivermectin over there or hydroxychloroquine in the sun getting vitamin D, so they weren't decimated. So no good news out of Africa, meaning people, no bad news out of Africa.

And Sweden that didn't lock down and these other places didn't lock down, they got off the map too because they used to be held up. So it used to be Sweden is a model for what we should be doing and Africa needs our help. Africa didn't need our help and Sweden was not a model because they left their schools open. So we stopped thinking and reporting on Sweden and Africa. This is like Jan Wenner, right? Yes.

This is, you destroy the things that don't go with your team. I think we have an update on that. Rolling Stone, Arco, go ahead, Drew. Okay. Entera Skin Care. If you're ready to unlock your youthful skin, luscious hair, Entera Skin Care's incredible range of transformative products will have you feeling

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Because then they posted a new update to it, which was that headline I read to you when we weren't recording. So they basically edited it. But I found the original on the Wayback Machine. The first one had a picture of people dressed. And the cold, too, right? The article came out in July or August, and there was a picture of people standing with hoodies and parkas.

Ski beanies. There it is. What? Is there any vetting that goes on over there? What was the date of the article, just for comic effect? That would be September 3rd, 2021. All right, September 3rd. Out here, it's the hottest.

September is now the hottest month of the year. Yeah. So right out of August into September and middle of dog days of summer. And the picture they chose is people wearing hoodies and scarves and ski beanies. Yep. Which is comical and long sleeves, which no one would do in the middle of the summer. And they're waiting in line to get in the hospital because they've been shot. But the joe rogan fans are in there od'ing on ivermectin so they had to be turned away yeah horse pace they're eating horse pace they're eating horse pace um but what was the article

then ben uh the headline read gunshot victims left waiting asims Left Waiting as Horse Dewormer Overdoses Overwhelm Oklahoma Hospitals, Doctors Says. Wow. Could that be farther from the truth? The subtitle is, The ERs Are So Backed Up That Gunshot Victims Were Having Hard Times Getting Into Facilities Where They Can Get Definitive Care And Be Treat treated, Dr. Jason Michalia said. I got to look that guy up. May I look him up? Yeah. I mean, look.

How do you spell his last name? M-C-E-L-Y-E-A. The email's capital. So what it is, Drew? Yeah. Jason? Yeah. At a certain point, you kind of go,

all right, now we're just into flat-out lying instead of fudging or stretching or something. Is it just lies? It's just a lie? This guy is an osteopath, family medicine doctor, not working in the ER. Oh, but he knows. He's got his ear to the ground. Like an Indian, he can tell. Board certified. Good for him. I got more quotes from him okay more quotes uh yeah sorry uh he said the ers are so backed up that gunshot victims are having hard times getting to facilities where they can get to yeah you had that but all of their ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don't have any.

That's it. That's different than the ER is filled with ivermectin users, number one. Number two, I've got the follow-up Oklahoma hospitals. Two of them respond three days later like, what are you talking about? Here's what I'm saying. This guy's a crackpot. What's Rolling Stone doing? What's Rolling Stone doing other than

just flat out lying and then why aren't they embarrassed I called it the second it came out I had people say don't say anything about us like fuck that these guys are fucking liars well good Jan now you're out enjoy there you go oh he publicly said his comments were misconstrued and taken out of context. He himself. Well, what's he going to say? He's going to stand by it, and who knows? What do you mean? He could say, you know, that's what I said.

No, he's, oh, wait. He said it was misreported. That was misreported. Hold on a second. Hold on. Are we talking about ivermectin or saying black guys can't talk about rock and roll? No, no, no, no. We're talking about ivermectin.

We're talking about that Jason McKellar. Well, the last thing I said was he's out, and then you said he stands sorry. I beg your pardon. I was reading this while you said that. Right. He said what? He said, his quote. Who's he?

This Dr. McKellier that Ben just told me about. The hospital says, we do not speak on his behalf. He has publicly said his comments were misconstrued and taken out of context. Of course, I mean, so the guy's not insane. The reporter is insane. Oh, yeah. I mean, just listen. Don't go to rolling stone for any information that's it especially about any matter that could have any kind of political leaning to

it because this is what we lived through this is what two years old is this uh article so says yeah september 2021 this doctor has not worked at that location in over two months yeah so he was not even there yes so there we go wonderful thank you rolling stone it's good reporting man the journalists are up to their they're just really doing a great job these days let's keep listen it drew every time you and i every time you and I get into this, you and many others feel duty bound to, oh, but the right does the same thing. What did the right do that's equivalent to this as it pertains to COVID? It's interesting. I don't say that a lot. I do say it some. And what I would say is this is kind of interesting. I don't say that a lot. I do say it some. And what I would say is,

this is kind of interesting, is that it takes them a while to ramp up. They're not so organized. They don't have the press with them. They don't have the government controlling social media. It takes them a while to ramp up. And so now where they're ramped up is the vaccine is a premeditated attempt to hurt people. And that's crazy. These are – but that – see, the difference is if you're talking about Rolling Stone versus Fox News. I'm not talking about Fox. I'm talking about sort of this hue and cry. Talking about sort of this hue and cry.

Every conservative I know as it pertains to vaccines says, wouldn't bother getting my kids vaccinated. Surely wouldn't. I would ignore the CDC explaining that six months old should be vaccinated. If you have an elderly parent, they should get vaccinated. And as far as you getting vaccinated that's up to you i've chosen not to do it or i did do it that's all i got i think that's more common that's true that is the line out of all the mainstream i would agree right wingers yes uh who are called vax deniers except for their so not going to do it for my teenage boy uh not going to do it for myself because i'm healthy and fit you make your own decision go

talk to your doctor agree which which could have solved this whole covid conundrum go talk to your doctor do what you want from the beginning right but that's that's the right now i'm not talking about the fringy right i'm just talking about the fringy right. I'm just talking about the mainstream right. That's all I've ever heard. But that's sort of the point is that they're not so coordinated. You know what I mean? It's not so – the team is not universal in its – Well, Ben Shapiro has been vaccinated and Dennis Prager hasn't because they disagree.

But that's what's interesting. And Dan Bongino's been vaccinated and wishes he wasn't vaccinated. Those are the right. They're all over the road. That's sort of making my point. They don't have that unified chorus. It's not a unified chorus because they're not lying. When you lie, you have's not a unified course because they're not lying when you lie you have to

have a unified chorus when sanjay goop does talking about horse paste and you're anderson cooper don lemon you go oh come on sanjay it's not for billions of doses have been put handed out to americans and and worldwide for 50 years come on like what i like is that's what you would say all the people coming over the border that they want to welcome in, they all are required to take five days of ivermectin. All of them. The horse?

The horse paste. Are they? Yeah. It's a CDC requirement. It's on their website. But it's dangerous. Yeah, right. Well, it's dangerous if you have COVID.

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that I'm just flat out lying. And people picked it up and they used it and they bought it. Oh, it went on, it still goes on. I think there are plenty of people that would be pushed back hard

at you for calling it a lie. They would. They still like, oh God, these people are using the ivermectin. Well, once- You still, you know, by the way, are using the ivermectin. Well, once – You still – you know, by the way, if you mention ivermectin on YouTube, you're canceled.

They will suspend your site if you mention the word. Right. Right. So then here's the question. What the fuck is going on? Like who are all these people? What's in it for them? is going on like who are all these people what's in it for them how did they how did they create this chorus of of useful idiots look that was the that's the mystery to me that i was trying

to figure out covid was the most mysterious experience for me because i i couldn't understand things like that. People certain. You know, I interviewed a guy, very smart research physician the other day, and he said, you know what? He goes, look, he goes, you, you know, just like you described the guy who said, get your elderly patients, get your older parents vaccinated. I'm not so sure with the kids. You have rational uncertainty. Most people have rational uncertainty.

What has caught on and taken foothold in this country is irrational certainty. It's irrational to be certain that you should vaccinate a six-month-old. You can do it and you can recommend it, but it's irrational to have certainty because we don't have the data. We don't have it. So irrational. I have the data. Nobody, no kid died.

That's my data. No healthy kid died of COVID. By the way, they went from 15 or 18 to zero, basically, without a preexisting condition or multiple comorbidities. So that's my rationale. Zero. Nothing. Listen, all you have to do is kind of look around your neighborhood for everything in life. You know what I mean?

You don't need to do these deep dives. This is what these academics do, and they get everything in life. You know what I mean? You don't need to do these deep dives. This is what these academics do and they get everything fucking wrong. Just, you want to know what's going on with the homeless population? Look around. See any mothers of three? Freshly divorced?

Just lost their job. Just lost their job? No, you don't see it? Then it doesn't exist. Don't know anybody and all the kids in the neighborhood and all the kids' friends and all the teens and all the people at the school,

no one who died of COVID? Then it's not a thing. That's how you know. That's how you know. It's called clinical judgment. Yes, I have clinical judgment. And usually research catches up with clinical judgment and and we usually research catches up with clinical judgment that's usually what happens yes yeah it's user research can be

completely off base and clinical judgment you want to know how uh 50 000 americans don't die of secondhand smoke every year because you've never heard of a person who died of secondhand smoke that's how you know no celebrity nobody that's how you know it's it's easy to figure out i think they're talking about that now as a lie that they used to really crush smoking altogether i had so they felt good about it i had the great yeah it's a lie yeah to try to get you to do something which is I said that's what they're doing. That's what they did with COVID. You had a what? You were doing?

Oh, man. On my radio show, I got in this argument with the mayor of Calabasas, who was an attorney, and it was awesome. And he was trying to explain to me, oh, he'd outlawed smoking in outdoors yeah and i and called in to discuss it yeah uh i want a little gavin newsom with him you know and he was explaining to me that um dana reeves christopher reeves wife had lung cancer had lung cancer but was a non-smoker but got lung cancer because she worked at a cabaret for two years or something in her 20s. You know what I mean? And I said, no. People get lung cancer.

It can happen. You don't have to smoke. You can get lung cancer. And they're, oh, no, she worked at this cabaret and breathed in second. For how long, I don't know. Oh, no, she worked at this cabaret and breathed in second. For how long, I don't know. So then because he's a lawyer and because he's insane,

he went on and explained to me that asthma is up 60% with children. And I said, yeah, but smoking is down 60%. So's the correlation and he was like the smoking i'm like no smoking's down and asthma's up so according to your logic smoking actually helped with asthma and and i told him he was wrong because it's an insane argument I mean from the 50s smoking is literally down 62% or 79% and asthma is up so why are you

correlating smoking with asthma he circled back and he did it again and then you just go man you're dealing with a lot of 10 cent heads here. Yes. Real 10 cent heads. But you got to remember, it's in the human cognitive system.

You can look this guy up. He was the mayor of Calabasas. It's in the human cognition. It's how it works. He called in the radio show, probably like 08 or something. There may be a clip somewhere online. That's why I like guys like Mark Cianchese and people I interview are cognitive scientists.

It's interesting to hear the cognitive errors that are just in our system. I think Giovanni has a clip of it. I can reach out to him. Yeah, see if he can do that. It's awesome. Maybe we'll play it on the next show. But it's, you know, Drew,

it's way more than sad. It's, you know, Drew, it's way more than sad. It's dangerous. People's lack of ability to think clearly is now dangerous. It's getting people killed. It's fucking up this nation. Like it's really bad policy that is really fucking up a lot of stuff. Well, and it goes back to academia saying that everything is caused by society so everything can be changed by society.

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