The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1774 Believe All Women?

Episode Date: September 29, 2023

Adam and Dr. Drew bring up some Love Boat videos, and the comical imaginings of how a sleazy Dr. Bricker would do in today’s sensitive climate. They discuss the wildness of the 1970’s and this new era of ‘believe all women’ and why that is showing itself to be problematic. Please support our sponsors: Blindsgalore.com TryMiracle.com/ADS Angie.com

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And the sufficient settlement. Yes, I am. So we got to finish our little hot love line love boat talk don't think yeah we do we we also are trying to get that uh mayor of calabasas calabasas goofball i don't remember that phone call i i found myself listen drew you tell me yeah go ahead i i'm not interested in ambushing people or arguing with people i'm really not interested in that it's uncomfortable yes um drew and i have many discussions and sometimes i will say yeah you know i got a different head on this one than than that you know and then we'll we'll hash it out and sometimes we'll agree most of the time we'll arrive at the same place.

Sure. I'm not interested in that, but I do feel some sort of fiduciary duty that if you're going to call in or come in and come into my space, my show, my radio podcast or whatever, and start spouting out stuff that's just inaccurate and false then i must say something and then the problem this is where the problem comes the problem comes in is that you trotting out a non-answer is not sufficient to get me to go away right and and

this is what is going on right or call it bringing it a call I'll call back bringing it back again in spite of having addressed it that's even worse I think yes wait what do you mean like you said going back to the smoking cause the lung cancer in oh that yes yeah yeah we'll see we can find that clip. But I had Gloria Allred call in Famous Celine. That's where the crystal brain part came in. Because she said to me, Michael Richards dropping 100 N-bombs on stage at the Laugh Factory. You don't know if that's going to help his career. I said, no, it's most certainly not going to help his career i said no it's you know most certainly

not going to help his career by the way it's been 15 years yeah he's not been heard of right he was canceled immediately yeah um but we don't know so she said he's got to pay she she represented the audience members the black audience, and wanted to get paid. I said, he is paying. He's a pariah. He's being thrown out of society. She said, how's that punishment? I said, you think writing a check is punishment to a rich guy?

I'd say being never invited to another party in hollywood is punishment first off conceptually yeah rich people if it was rape or murder you don't think they'd love to cut a check yeah to not go to prison yeah they'd love to cut a check anyone who got into you know rich person who left the christmas party drunk and hit the poor latina guy walking down the street and killed him he would love to just write a fucking check and not go not see the inside of a jail cell so her her argument is flawed writing a check is punishment everything with lawyers is money right it's either time in prison or money that's right but i or constitutional explained that um a uh he's being punished because he's going to be ostracized and pushed out of society he's not going to work he hasn't worked

in this business you know you think of him as old. He was probably 47 or something. You know what I mean? That happened, yeah. How old, Nicole, how old was Michael Richards when that whole event happened on stage? Or how is he now? When was the event? Just do the math.

I think we could figure this out. Yeah, I mean, I was on terrestrial radio. It's been 15 years plus. Yeah. Look, he's well enough to be doing stand-up on a Wednesday night. You know what I mean? I mean, he's engaged in his career. He's trying to do stand-up.

So I said to her, A. He would have been like 58, I think, at the time. Yeah, he's 74 now and it was 2006. I might be doing a math. Oh, is he 74 now? That's old. All right. 50?

I would have put him at like 60. Interesting. I wouldn't have known how old he was. But the point is, is at the time, he was younger than you and I are now. So be like us being canceled a few years ago and never coming back. So she said, well, we don't know how this is going to affect this career. I said, I do. She said, you don't know.

I said, yes, I do. She said, you don't have a crystal ball. I said, I have a crystal brain. I think clearly. She didn't like that. And then I said to her, I love Gloria. Why do you need to get paid?

Because you're black. I mean, what if there's fat people in the audience and the guy's making fun of fat people? Should they get paid? And she explained that was a totally different thing, which always means you got them. And she didn't want to get into those hypotheticals uh but the point is the only reason i destroyed her is because she came in with a bad premise

well i had some interesting conversation with lori over the years where it's an she's to me an interesting case study and how long it takes people to come out of their cognitive distortions so she was when uh it must have it was before roe versus w she was when, it was before Roe versus Wade was overturned. It was when it was being threatened. And she goes, and it's going to be back alley abort. Women are going to die in the back alley abort. No, pill. It's not with a pill.

Nobody's dying. They may have to go across state lines to get the pill. They may have to get a sense of them. It's a pill. Yeah, but they're back alley abort. She did that for like six months. And it wasn't until two years later I heard her saying, well, now these days it's mostly done with chemical abortion.

And I thought, wow, it takes about two years when the evidence is, when it's just black and white, when it's just, that's just the way it is, for people to get it into their head. Once they have another notion in their head that's dramatic you have to have an agenda or a 10 cent head to begin with though that's you have to have a motivation that's what i'm saying it's motivation of abortion i was just watching gavin newsom talk about abortion it's great because they'll never commit to any number. I've said for years, look, you pick a number, 12 weeks, 15 weeks, 18 weeks, halfway mark, whatever.

You just pick a number and you just go, that's a cutoff. Because at some point it becomes a person. And then they go, the Gavin Newsom thing is always like, that's just, it's between a woman and her doctor. It's between a woman and they'll never give the number. That's always between a woman and her doctor. It's between a woman and her doctor. It's between a woman and they'll never give the number. It's always between a woman and her doctor. It's between a woman. She has a right.

It's between her. She's allowed to make these decisions. And I'm like, you think that's how the law works? So then later on, if she chooses not to feed the child or not to send the child to school or put out cigarettes on the child's not to send the child to school or put out cigarettes on the child's forehead that's that's just her that's a mom how about end of life her choice other end we're not allowed to snuff people out because right the patient asked

that's so but just between her thought so she could have a she could have an abortion when the kid was crowning because that was her decision. That's how you feel. And by the way, Gavin Newsom, don't get me wrong. I like this new libertarian attitude toward things because I'd like to put a deck on my house and it'd be between me and my contractor, right? I don't have to go to the city. I don't have to get a permit, do I? It's just my choice. My deck, my choice. I'll do what to go to the city. I don't have to get a permit, do I? It's just my choice.

My deck, my choice. I'll do what I need to do. My deck, my choice. Yeah. Is that how you feel toward construction? My kitchen, my choice. Yeah. Oh, my God.

My remod, my choice. It'll be between me and my contractor. Why should the city or the state get involved with that? It's a decision I'm going to make with my contractor. You have to move to Texas for that one. Yeah, then they let you do that. All right. So Love Boat.

Oh, Love Boat. I already wanted to talk about it. Well, there's a clip. There's a clip I pulled from Love Boat. Oh, yes? When he's doing the surgery? No, I didn't need a clip. There's a clip I pulled from Love Boat. Oh, yes? When he's doing the surgery? No, I didn't need that clip. Because at the end, they made this ridiculous deal.

It was so annoying. Right? The end was they couldn't get the guy on the speakerphone. It's like, there's something very important I need to tell you. And then the speaker went out. And then Bricker was like, god damn it. And then he hung his head and did these. Nothing I could do. No, he

goes, forget it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter when he said. And then he walks out of the door, hanging his head, and everyone looked at him and went, my god, she's gone. No, she's going to be fine. And then he's overacting when they're hugging and stuff this woman he met at dinner the two nights ago he's like that's my family it's my mom well there's

that and then there's another really funny one is at the very end he's still alive we gotta interview him they always have to get everybody together at the end yes you. You know, Isaac and Gopher and everyone. Right. Say goodbye to everyone. Yeah. So he had a nurse, you know, who was going to prep for operation. Was doing anesthesia? Was doing anesthesia, right. Where's the gas? Yeah.

Where'd they come up with the halothane? I don't. In those days. Yeah. I don't think he was equipped to do surgery on that ship. But here's the comedy. The comedy was at the very end when they were rolling the old woman out on the gurney, Isaac was holding the IV bag.

Yes. Now, he's the bartender. Yes. Where's the nurse? Isn't that kind of her gig? It should be, but they had to bring him in at the end. Everyone's got to be there. All right. kind of her gig it should be but they had to bring him in at the end everyone's got to be there all right i saw somebody interviewed about uh god was it was it bernie coppola's one of these guys coppel and he was saying that uh they wanted to have some deals where they would leave the ship

and go to their homes or have things lives outside the ship and uh spellman goes no this is the you're the family the family's on the ship yeah you know you guys the no, you're the family. The family's on the ship. The viewers think you're a family. And so the family always begins at the end. Now, listen. I've screamed many times, Drew, about the open misogyny and hitting on women and staff and whatever. This one was over the top this one's over the top but it also happens in the first two minutes of the episode back to back there's two yeah but they they count you did you get the opening little sequence he's sad he's jealous because he's lonely that's why he's down on

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Drew. We'll play this Love Boat clip because what I'm trying to say is love boat listen up drew i'm listening love boat wasn't its own island pardon the pun it represented america in 1979 it's like watching the commercials like you yes it's. It's a reflection of America. It's prime time network. There's nothing fringy about it.

It was family viewing 8 or 9 o'clock in the evening. There was nothing edgy, considered edgy. It was the kind of show that America could sit and watch with their children. And it was broad.

It was considered... It couldn't be anything sort of out of the ordinary. No. Except for that one thing where Mackenzie Phillips... Is a transgender. Transgender. That was a little ahead of its time. That was interesting. But the jokes were broad, almost vaudevillian.

The storylines were basic. Not almost vaudevillian. Vaudevillian. The storylines were whatever. And so you have the doctor of the ship is the lethario who's hitting on every customer every passenger on the ship and off usually waiting like a grizzly bear upstream you know what i mean for them to just walk onto the boat you talk about the spanish woman getting kissed by her coach he

grabs these women as they come on the boat. This one in particular. Right. So right now, Spanish guy kisses the soccer player. He's out. Yeah. But here was Doc in 1979. Oh, Dr. Bricker?

Well, hi. My name's Amber. Of course, this isn't one of those times. My girlfriend met you on a cruise last summer and she hasn't stopped talking about you. Oh, I hate patients who kiss and tell. What time are your office hours? Office hours?

For you? I'll make a cabin call. It goes a little beyond that, too. He's fucking her friend? Yes. And now he's going to screw her. Right now. Before the ship leaves dock.

The dock. One minute later. One minute later, this happened. I'm in love. Is that a whistle or did your brain just boil over? You know, I can help you find your cabin. I mean, this is a big... All right, pause it there.

This is a guy who's doing maintenance on the ship. Yes. This is two people in uniform who work for the cruise line. Yeah. Yeah. Had to be signed off by princess cruises for sure i think about script approval all the time are they reading this yeah i think they're like they were british it's a british i was gonna say maybe they were ahead on this stuff or more

you know at the time i was i was going to look it up because they're not an American company. No, it's the E&O line. It was a – look at the back of the ship last night. It says London. It says London. Yes. Yeah. No, it's a British line.

I studied. I had my jeweler's loop out. Hey, I went and looked up some of these people. Me too. The lawyer, the woman that played the lawyer yeah is rebecca demornay's mother-in-law she was married to ryan o'neill for a second oh yeah and they had a son patrick patrick married rebecca demornay i did not i didn't get that far but i got that far so her i mean i got to the part where she married ryan on yeah and she her grandkids are

all rebecca demornay's, which is interesting. There was a lot of interesting people in this group. And poor Bert Convey, because I had to look up. He died early, I think. Well, I thought he died like real early. He was 57 when he died of brain cancer. Some weird story about him falling in love with some other girl and divorcing his wife so he could be married to this girl when he died it was an odd story i don't know what the reality is but remember that series tattletales he had whenever no tell me that wasn't sort of the maybe it was a little

the timing is not right for you but that's what sick home from school looked like that show yeah yeah that was that show you'd watch it no matter what you're saying from school. Yes, he was the host. All right, sir. We'll play the... Just oil over. You know, I can help you find your cabin. I mean, this is a big boat. You could get lost. That's just what I was thinking.

Get lost. Excuse me. I realize you're new on this ship, but making leering remarks to the passengers Is not your job Uh huh Well whose job is it? Because I'd like to swap Alright

He wants to swap with the guy's job I like Julie being the moral muscle on the ship Right And then he shuts her down Immediately He's a guy in a in a like in a coveralls coveralls yeah he's the lowest man on the totem pole he's a guy taking the barnacles off the ship well the thing is funny is they but basically what they did is they took a four foot step ladder yeah told him to go stand up and sit next to a piece of pipe that had like a fire

sprinkler head on it here's a can of wd-40 and here's a rag yeah just pretend like you're doing you're doing something it's such an listen how many years have you and i been complaining about the 70s and now we the the mindset that brought us all that is alive and well today, which is the astonishing thing. Yes, yes. And thank God the architecture hasn't come back. But give it a minute. Flat roofs are back. They are.

In Las Vegas, every modern home has a flat roof. Now, what I'll tell you this. They've got to improve the technology in some way. If you go up into the hills of Studio City, the Donna Streets, Hebrew Heights called, those Laurel Canyon Hill

Studio City side, you will see many sort of architectural modern attempts from like 1977 with the flat roof, with the sort of rocks on the roof. What was that? Why were there rocks on the roof?

It's never been fully explained to me. But there were attempts at doing this sort of modern style architecture. It didn't work. this sort of modern style architecture. It didn't work. When you go and see a really high-end Vegas new construction home, it has many of the same features, but they now can do it. You know what I'm saying? Interesting, yeah.

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Okay. I want to talk more about the craziness in the 70s and the the insanity of these people going after women and nobody batting an eye about it just hey man do it it'll be men the french i i was i've been saying lately i'm obsessed with the french and their history and the revolution stuff but i've been watching some stuff on Rodin lately, the sculptor. That dude was a maniac narcissist who exploited and took advantage of innumerable women, some ending up with kids that he disavowed, some ending up in psychiatric hospitals abandoned by him. And the commentators, all the French historians are like, yeah, well, he just loved the women. He just, you know, he was a passionate, passionate man. And they still

dismiss horrible behavior as, well, that's what he's into, man. What are you going to do? And that's everything about the 70s. Right. Because the doctor, why do you think he became a doctor? He's into the checks. What are you going to do? It's the love boat, man. It's how it works it it it's again when you when you don't look at the reality of the human situation and you pretend things are a certain way you know

you know where love boat came from i was watching a documentary on that a couple weeks ago doing my homework doing my homework for the show uh do you know what was the sort of the birth, what it grew out of? According to Spellman, whatever his name is, spelling, was Love American Style. Which was strictly comedy and was considered sort of cutting edge-y, remember? Yeah. Even though it was slapstick-y and also kind of vaudevillian i remember very clearly when i was babysitting that there was an episode of love american style where the woman was topless or something they didn't show it but there was like as she walked from

one room to the other you could you know catch a millisecond of something you know and i remember like yeah they were like re-showing that episode i was like poised i was like in a three points dance in front of the tv set i really was like i remember going oh yeah this is yeah, this is the episode. This is the episode. And it was the big, that whole show, Love American Style, was all about the opening. Yeah, the fireworks. It was about the song and the fireworks. Love American Style. Truth in the wind.

Yeah. Yeah, okay. All right, no, so what we're doing now is we're over-correcting this behavior by saying believe all women and whatever Al Franken did was the same as Harvey Weinstein. Like Al Franken's gone because he made a joke, essentially. You know what I mean?

It's an over-correction for this, which is a big problem in our society in general. Lots of over. problem in our society in general lots of over so what we do is we go um for years uh black women were denied any kind of leadership roles in government you know we go okay now let's just hire black women which is well of course you're going to end up with kamala harris and a bunch of dingbats because you've overcorrected. See what I'm saying? And that's what we –

He's not saying that African-American women are dingbats. He's saying that if you hire too many of a certain type – There's not enough – there's only so many really shrewd people to go around. You're going to run out of the supply eventually. You would do it with any group. Any group. If you just said we're just hiring swedes or germans that's right eventually you would run out of the the merit well not even

run out of you wouldn't have the best of you know if joe biden had just announced i want the best vice president i can find then then you would have a competent vice president. He announced I need a woman and she's got to be black. I mean, can we just do this, Drew? Let's just continue the thought experiment. Right? Okay. Because people are going to think this is hyperbole, but here's

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Oh, boy. So here's the audit to merit. find an endpoint. Oh, boy. So here's the audit to merit. You go, look, I need a CEO for the

Nabisco or GM or Ford or I need the vice president of the United States. Yeah. And it's got to be a woman

and it's got to be black. But let's just keep going. Yeah. There's got to be a lesbian, too, and a Pisces. And grew up in Southeast Asia. No, just Pisces. Okay. Thank you for doing I'm just saying, just add things, add things, add things. Well, yeah, but she's got to be a Pisces. And grew up in Southeast Asia. No, just Pisces.

Okay. Thank you for doing this. I'm just saying, just add things, add things, add things. Well, yeah, but she's got to be a Pisces. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Now, it's not going to limit,

it's going to limit the potential pool of people to choose from, right? And then people would go, well, saying she's a Pisces, come on, that's nuts. Well, it limits. It's going to limit the pool yeah and so is black and so is female because they're going to limit the pool yeah that's what i'm saying in in the important jobs you don't want to limit the pool because you guys just took affirmative action and set it back 50 years because you have an idiot who's now doing this job and everyone thinks that so you've hurt the cause all right so what do we do we have that clip we have the mayor but we probably don't start arguing at the beginning no that's that's my point i can do a deep dive into this and get this queued up to you right after uh for maybe next week if

you guys want because he's got to listen to two and a half hours. Let me hear what he sounds like at the beginning. Maybe I start arguing at the beginning. Really? I don't know. That'd be wild. That he stayed on for two and a half hours. No, you actually specifically, right before I'm about to play,

say like, I'll try to show you the same respect I showed my producer in the debate he overheard. The thing, you're the mayor of Calabasas, beautiful city right outside of los angeles calabasas if uh people are listening from around the country take about secondhand smoke gotcha the calabas about uh 20 minutes half hour out of uh los angeles if there's not too much traffic probably about what do you say about 20 miles miles or so out of Los Angeles, 25 miles? That's correct.

It's beautiful, sort of up north, but gets a nice beach breeze coming over the hill there every once in a while. Now, the mayor has passed the toughest ordinance that prohibits no smoking in all public places. Places include parks, outdoor cafes, sidewalks, and bus stops, and you can't smoke in the car if the windows are open and someone else is affected, meaning if a guy pulls up next to you in a moped and you have your window open, you have to close your window and smoke in your car, correct? Well, let me correct a few things. First of all, this was passed by a unanimous city council. I was one of the members of the council. This is also not a ban on smoking. What makes this unusual and effective is that this allows

people to smoke, but it is a public health law that limits public exposure to secondhand smoke. So what it does is it starts to recognize the right of somebody to breathe safe, clean air by stopping people from further smoking in doorways, garages, entrances to public buildings, outdoor seating areas, movie theaters, coffee shops. Same thing. These are places that people must go. We didn't say you can't smoke. We simply said, would you mind smoking in a designated area? You can't do it anywhere.

They didn't say you can't smoke. You just can't do it anywhere. No, you can do it in designated areas, not unlike a terminal in an airport. And I think the question is, if you want to get serious about it, Yeah, I am. The question is, do you, do we accept the public health implications of secondhand smoke, which are now, in 2006, irrefutable? Yes.

And you have to be able to also acknowledge that two weeks after we passed this, the State of California Air Resources Board, in an unprecedented step, listed secondhand smoke as a dangerous air contaminant and indicated that their reasons for doing that was because the 800 studies and all the leading experts provided information that was irrefutable that this is one of the leading causes of preventable death. Yes. Secondhand smoke. That's right. That's complete nonsense, obviously. How do you know that? Because I'll tell you why.

I worked with a doctor for 10 years, and I used to pass the billboards that Rob Reiner put up that said 55,000 Americans die every year of secondhand smoke. Well, the doctor, Dr. Drew, brought in an article from JAMA one day that suggests as many as seven people may have died nationally last year of secondhand smoke. And I would just ask everyone, close your eyes. Think about the famous actor, the relative, the loved one, the neighbor, the classmate that has passed away because of secondhand smoke. Hold on. Let's just wait a second. You do the same thing, Mayor. Everyone close your eyes. Everyone close your eyes. Now picture yourself watching the news. The great actor. The great musician. The politician. Hold on. The family member. The school teacher. The

cousin. The brother. The sister. The neighbor. Close your eyes. Who's been snatched away prematurely by secondhand smoke? Hold on. Give it a thought. Okay, do you have anybody you know? Probably Dana Reeve is one we can start with. Oh, that's right. I would also point, and if we have time, I'll be happy to get into that.

Do you know Dana Reeve? There's an extraordinary rise, I'll answer that in one second. There's an extraordinary rise in asthma and cancer. And here's really the question. That's right, because they're home. If I get a chance to finish, we don't need to talk too much. So you came up with Dana Reeve. That's the only one you came up with.

But can I ask you this? You can't shout over it. Can I ask you this? Can I ask you a question about Dana Reeve? Does it say on her death certificate, secondhand smoke? If you'll let me answer the question. First of all, I respect where you're coming from. It's interesting that while I was waiting, your discussion was all about respect.

All I'm saying is that, first of all, the chief physician, the chief clinical oncologist at Cleveland Cancer Institute discussed issues like Dana Reeve when he pointed out that cigarette smokers have lesser risk than non-smokers. And the reason is that when you breathe from a hot plume of a cigarette, the heat causes a reflex in the lung and you cough, preventing the smoke from going very deep.

When you're a bystander, you're breathing it at room temperature. That is such an insane thing. The reflex is absent. And they're finding that it's very easy in lung condition. Yeah, because you're also breathing whatever smoke you're creating when you smoke. absent and they're finding that it's very easy in lung condition. He suggested that because she was a singer and frequently exposed to smoke in bars, that was a very likely cause. I point out that the real issue is let's be safe rather than sorry because we don't think it's inconvenient to simply

politely say, this is a question of respect, she brought it up, which is do you mind not smoking in the doorway where people must go? Do you mind not smoking in front of kids or people with asthma? We did this in a way that's very respectful, and I would really ask this question. I hear all the hypotheses you're up against, and what we should really be listening to, is American Heart, American Lung Association, American Cancer. Isn't that interesting in retrospect? Listen to the CDC.

Listen to the NIH. It's interesting. No, their motive is, no, I will say this. Listen, I'm all in favor of getting people off the cancer sticks. It's what kills people. Their motive is to ultimately make people stop smoking cigarettes. Right. That is correct.

That's a very pure motive. But let's not fudge the medical facts just because you have an agenda. You have over 800 studies, and you know what? It's a great agenda. I'm really pleased to be part of a public health agenda where the agenda that you seem to hear against us is either not informed or pro-tobacco or pro-cigarettes on the internet or try to

promote cigarettes to kids. Let me bring up an example for a second, though. And here's why this is dangerous, fudging the medical facts. As we all know, if you ask anyone in the medical field, if 40,000 or 55,000 Americans die of secondhand smoke every year, they'll laugh their ass off because, of course, it doesn't exist. Like I said, the JAMA article suggested that maybe as high as seven people died.

And when I spoke to my friend, physician, board-certified physician, Dr. Drew, he laughed when I said that. He said he's never heard of it and never treated anyone for it. So figures aside, here's what happens. It's the same thing you do with AIDS. A few years back, when they're talking about AIDS, they say anyone can catch AIDS. No, no, no, this is not a gay disease. It's heterosexual.

It transcends all genders, all whatever. We make it for everybody, and then it loses its teeth. When you have a debate like this in just a few minutes, and people are listening and trying to sort it out, the only thing you can really do is rely on symbols. And so I respect what you're saying, but I'm proud to be with the symbols of credibility that I have. American heart, lung, yours are speculation. And I think when it comes to public health, if you want, bring experts on and let us debate them.

We're standing with symbols of credibility and health. You're talking about hypotheses. Good job. Let me give you an idea. Let me tell you something. You believe in global warming, right? Correct. I can produce 100 scientists that tells you it doesn't exist.

But they're scientists. They're experts. Hold on. I'm not here to talk about it. Well, see, now when it goes against you, you don't believe the scientists. No, I think you're just going to a different subject. No, I'm not here to talk about it. See, now when it goes against you, you don't believe the scientists. No, I think you're just going to a different subject. No, I'm not. I'm just saying I can produce 100 scientists that tell you there's no global warming.

So what about it? I'm only telling you all I'm trying to say, and I understand where you're coming from. Right. You understand I'm right. I'm doing skepticism, and it's correct. It's appropriate to be skeptical. But I think it's now 2006. The evidence is overwhelming.

And listen, if you have to decide where you want to come down, folks like American Heart and Lung and all of the oncologists are the ones that we should be guided by on such a serious issue. Right, but here's the point, though. You just conceded, though, that you... That's fine. That's too much. Too much.

I like this guy, bud. He's smart. A little bit. He's a lawyer. Yeah, he's a lawyer. He's smart. A little bit. He's a lawyer. Yeah, he's a lawyer. He's a lawyer, but he's not winning this argument. No, I love when lawyers are lawyering. It's what RFK Jr. does.

Yeah, his name is Barry Groveman. I don't think he's in there anymore. But anyway, it'll keep going. The asthma thing is the key part. The asthma is the key part. Well, we'll find it for the next show. Put a bookmark on that, Ben. Oh, my goodness. Because he goes on and cites that adolescent asthma on the key part. We'll find it for the next show. Put a bookmark on that, Ben. Oh, my goodness.

Because he goes on and cites that adolescent asthma on the rise. That's when he fucks us. Dana Reeves died because she worked as a cabaret singer. Right. And they cite the experts, Drew. Listen, the expert with some weird idea about secondhand smoke worse than smoking. That's what the case he was making yes that is insanity by the way what about the experts yeah i know and so here we are uh well not me

i questioned the experts back then yeah okay it's really interesting same little history we were just having an argument about COVID. Yeah. That's what we're having. Correct. And vaccines and everything else that we're dealing with right now. That's exactly. Just the CDC, just public health generally. Yes.

What they've done to themselves. All right. And go to amcrawl.com for all the live shows. What do you got, Drew? Don't forget After Dark, Dr. If Dark. You can see it. Just look that up or your mom's house or dr.com. So, until next time, Adam Krover, Dr. Usain.

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