The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1782 Flesh It Out, Landlubbers

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

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What's going on there, Drew? Well, I still got on my mind what we were talking about at the end of the last show, which is brainwashing. And I want to flush that out a little bit more. You know what? Yeah. I think the term is flesh it out. What did I say?

Flush it out. Look that up, gentlemen. There's a handful. Because both make sense, right? Yes. Put flesh on the bones. Now, flush it out feels better, but it's flesh it out. F-L-E-S-H, flesh.

Yeah. Yeah, which to me means like put some flesh on the bones. Like put more substance into this. Like talk about it more thoroughly. Yeah, maybe. And flush it out means like let's rinse it. Let's flush out what's, you know. It is. Fleshing it out means like, let's rinse it. Let's flush out what's, you know. It is.

Flushing it out. There it is. Yeah, but this is right up there with landlubber and landlover. Do you know what I mean? Yes, yes. It's landlubber. Yes. But people say landlubber.

Which I think was the original term. The pirates just turned it into lubber, I think. Really? I think so. Well, now we got to look up land lubber origins, but... Because you're like your barber with the pencil in his mouth. Because the V's and B's in different languages are the same. I'm not trading in my sob for a bobo.

It's not sob, it's a sob. Yes, for a bobo. It's not sov. It's a sob. Yes, for a bobo. No, it's vulva. Vulva. Vulva. No, sob. The reason I would...

The reason a guy drove me nuts, I'm looking at Emmy because he speaks a cursed language of Spanish, is I would fucking say to the guy and byron too i i said listen to me you're saying b's and v's you're just putting them in the wrong word so don't tell me you can't say it you're you're saying so you're saying sob, but it's not sob, it's sob. You don't know this story? Emmy's dying. I'm dying because that's your problem with the Spanish language?

My problem is the Y and the J. Is the color jello or yellow? No. But listen, he went down a big road with his barber with this. Well, this is many years ago. His name was Phillip. He used to cut my hair and he'd stand behind me and talk the whole time. And he was like, he wasn't from Mexico.

He was from. Spain? Spain. Cuba? One of those, you know. Central America. Yeah. Yeah.

And he knew I knew cars. So he'd talk cars with me, you know, and he had a sob, but he's going to trade it in for Volvo. Yes. But he would say sob and Volvo. And I would go, okay, I can understand not being able to say one letter. Yeah. Like if you just went Sav and Voval, then I'd be fine with that. I would still try to help you with your Sav. Yes, yes. Because that means something else here. But if you were consistent, but you just toggled right back to

boba yes and i get that's how listen i don't know how the fuck to phonetically write out pujo but that's how they pronounce it it's their name it's their name you know know what I mean? Yes. It's how they say it. Yes. So I just say it how they say it. You know what, though? Because it's Peugeot. And I don't go Peugeot-go. But you go Ferrari.

Do you say that? No, I say Ferrari. Oh, whoa, mister. But they say Ferrari the same way I say Ferrari. They just do it with a little flair. But you're actually on to something here. The same way I say Ferrari, they just do it with a little flair. But you're actually on to something here. There's no international convention really on the pronunciation of cities and cars and things in the sense that I remember when Beijing was Peking.

Oh, really? Yeah. You remember that? I only knew it was a kind of a food. Okay. So it was Peking. And then we thought, oh, that's not how they pronounce it. We got to be talking about Beijing.

I'm sure it's still not how they pronounce it. But we don't say Pah-hee. Yeah. No, we don't. You don't say that. And that's fine because we have different kinds of R's here. We don't start it with another fucking letter. We also, to be fair, we don't require people to make sounds that they don't make in

their language understood yeah but this guy makes a b sound and makes a v sound i am a thousand percent with you do it so fleshing out your your theory he's going phenomena bobo and i'm like it's not all as volvo and he's going I can't do it what do you mean you can't do it you just said sov just take the V from the sov and put it in front of the Volvo can't do it

so I told him take a pencil and put it in his mouth sideways hold in stop cutting my hair now. Now say Volvo. Volvo. Volvo.

No. Volvo. Volvo. Now he could kind of say it when he put the pencil in his mouth sideways. So funny. Such a great story. Put up the landlubber thing here you're you

listen adam watch this you're gonna love this oh okay yeah because good here the word landlubber comes from an ob the obsolete lubber which isn't a funny way to say lover but a term that evolved from meaning clumsy oaf or inexperienced semen right so it so it's not connected. It's not. Thank you. Even though obviously I'm not the only one to think it because they put it in the definition. A lubber was also used as a verb to mean sail badly. So it's an insult. Land lubber was like a...

Right, what we were saying when you call someone a land lubber is that you were a dunce on land. Like you were clumsy on land. Would it be that? And now you're at sea and you're worse. Okay. Or, you know, you were the low-hanging fruit on ground in your town, and that's why you're on this boat.

These days also called a new inexperienced crew member on a schooner. A lubber. Lubber. Mm-hmm. All right. We'll get to the bottom of- We're going to- Let's just change the name of this podcast to English language.

We can add them to explore English language sources. Fine. True. Yeah. When you came in here this morning, you got to experience a clock change right yes um now again i walk around all day and i think am i insane or is anyone around me insane like what am i and how am i what are my expectations of how things work you know what i mean so what happened was is um and you guys should all do this in your life um have your

digital clock be spot on on the wall it's exactly the time that it is because um it shows that you're sort of realistic but why not does it have to be a digital clock well whatever clock that's in your world now i'm looking up at the analog clock and that's got to go back two minutes but whatever clock is in your world uh have it be as close to the second of the actual time as it can be. Otherwise, you're kind of defeating the purpose of the clock. Yes. Used to be, I don't think people do it anymore because they don't have

alarm clocks anymore, but I knew many people had their alarm clock set 15 minutes forward, and there's this sort of way of trying to trick yourself into thinking it was a different time, but you knew it because you set the clock so then you'd wake up and you'd go oh it's oh yeah but that's 10 minutes ahead so i got a minute here it was a bizarre yeah conceit to make in life but uh i told someone

around here last week i said i'm looking at my, I'm looking at the digital clock, and I go, the digital clock is two minutes fast. So I just set it back to where the phone was. That was last week. Then the person said, we'll do. And then that person told somebody to do it, and then that person never did it, and it never happened. And then I walked in a couple minutes late today, and I was like, I'm a couple minutes late. I don't think I'm that late. Then I look up the clock, then I look down my phone and then it never happened. But what is wrong with me that I expect that stuff to happen because I said it and that it, what is wrong with everyone else that it just doesn't do it oftentimes. Like I'll give you an example right now, real time. See what I did there?

I did. I'm looking up at my dates, my live performance dates. And I'm looking up at December 16th. I'm going to be in Rancho Mirage at the Agua Caliente Casino. I had a long conversation with Mike August over the weekend that that show was sold out, as well as an email from Mike saying that show was sold out. To everybody. I don't know if it went to everybody. It went to me.

Okay. But probably not everyone. Yeah. But it doesn't leave the plug sheet. And I've had the conversation 75 times. If a show is sold out, then get it off of the plug. I don't want to plug a show that's sold out. But it doesn't work that way.

Now, is that unreasonable on my behalf? Is it an unreasonable expectation? No, not an unreasonable request. The expectation we're going to have to parse out. And the request has been made multiple, multiple times. Okay, now the expectation should go up. It's not a dangerous thing because I'm aware it's sold out in this case there are other cases where i'm not in which case i would plug it yeah in this case it's neither

here nor there because i was made aware of it well okay so i again have a lot of thoughts right one is when when you are dependent on someone to do your job properly, the stakes go way up. You're saying, I don't want to plug something that I didn't know was sold out. I did my job poorly then. I just remember back in the day when I was giving orders to nurses in the middle of the night and stuff. I would think, oh my God, I'm not sure if they even understand me. There were language issues a lot of the time. I thought, I would think, oh, my God, I'm not sure if they even understand me. Like there were language issues a lot of the time. And I thought that is – I would get scared because I thought, oh, someone's going to get hurt.

Why does so much stuff fall through the cracks and why doesn't it bother those who are repeatedly told the same thing? Why don't you ask Mike? Should we interview them and find out what the deal is? Let's speculate. Now, look, it doesn't matter. See, for me, if you want to know what I experience, I don't really care about the clock. And I don't really care about the plug sheet. I care that I'm bringing up things that don't happen.

I know. It's your thing. That's my thing. And we said yesterday, it's got to be you. I'm uniquely bothered by that. Yeah. And it doesn't bother other people. Right.

And they don't understand how uniquely bothered I am by it. Well, so there is a piece there that we have to examine, which is other people put their motivation in your head. Right. It's like, I wouldn't worry about it. Why is he so upset about it? which is other people put their motivation in your head, right? It's like, I wouldn't worry about it. So why is he so upset about it? And already that's a pushback. You know what I mean? If I wouldn't get upset about it, me, the person you're asking,

and you're upset, there's a kind of a pushback. Well, the problem, here's the brain problem. If you'd like to guess what Mike's answer is as to why am I plugging things that are sold out, he has an answer. Okay, hold on. Let me think about this. Well, understand everybody, the only answer that prevents it from happening again is I fucked up and it won't happen again.

That prevents it from happening. Definitely not Mike. It's not anyone's answer. that's not anyone's answer. It's not anybody's answer. Does that make you more or less upset? No, I'm sorry. It's your answer. I try.

There's no one else I know where that's their answer. I try to. Gary used to say that, right? A little bit? Well, Gary Smith was squarely in the camp of say anything back. Nonsensical. Completely. That's where he started. He was

sort of coached up over the years and he matured. Right, I'm saying. He matured and he turned into a person that took complete accountability. Then he let that shit roll downhill and started abusing me whenever he would see me do something. Right.

So how you fix the problem is you say, I told somebody else to set the clock, but I should have checked and I should have done it myself. And then you'll fix the problem. If you just ended it, I told someone else to do it. They didn't do it. I'll even tell you. But by the way, you're also telling,

as I have this conversation with people all the time, they go, Mike forgot to send the email or something. But I told Mike that. But you knew Mike is inaccurate a lot. Also, don't you know? Yes. You should know who you're talking to. That's that's OK. So that dig, because this goes out the point I want to make next, which is people need to understand the difference between an excuse and an explanation.

Rule, right. So don't- Like, excuse was, sorry, I had a head injury. I was unconscious. Okay, fine. All right, so Mike's response, and the reason this doesn't get fixed, but Mike's response. Would be in the order of an explanation. I've told it to you before.

It would be an explanation in the form of an excuse. Yes. So- That was, let's rule out, my bad, I've told it to you before. It would be an explanation in the form of an excuse. Yes. So. That was, let's rule out. My bad. It's not going to happen again. No, no, no. Okay.

No. So, and I told him it's a little too easy. He's got to go back more to, I didn't know it was sold out or something. No, he told me it was sold out. But I still, he could. No. Come on. So tell me what, tell me what he said.

I can't come up with it. How could it hurt? Oh, that's a good one. That's good, right? That's a good one. That's a good one. I don't think I've heard that one before. It can't hurt,

but this is no path to preventing this from happening again is what I'm saying. Then it could hurt. That conversation, the how could it hurt conversation, that's 13 years old. That's what I'm saying. What I'm trying to tell everybody, here's the thing. I don't want you to say to me, my bad, it's on me, and it won't happen again for me.

I want you to say it so we don't do this again. Yes. But if you say, how could it hurt? Or the merit of explanations, answers, and obfuscation. You don't want an explanation. That's the thing. You don't want an explanation. I will take.

You'll take an excuse if it's legit. You'll take an excuse if it's legit. I'll take an explanation if it's legit. Well, explanation is, again, I was sick or I was whatever. I couldn't do it. It was incapacitated. All right. There could be many, many, many reasons. Many, many, many.

Well, no. I'm fine with, uh, well, I changed the clock and there was a power surge and the thing went off and came back on and I was over the weekend and I didn't, that's fine. That's a total explanation. Yep. Yep. Fine. Fine with that. I told someone else to do it as a kind of partial, you know, explanation. But, um, but how could it hurt leads to this 14 years later kind of like how could it hurt because it takes everything off the table it just stops the

conversation it's like ray with your fat no it's not the same motivation than that. But how, no. And then I follow it up by saying, there is a finite amount of time to plug things. And if you're plugging something that's sold out, then you might not have room to plug something else that needs plugging. Right. That's how it could hurt. Yes.

Potentially. Now, it's never going to be a catastrophe. Right. That's how it could hurt. Yes. Potentially. Now, it's never going to be a catastrophe. Yeah. But in terms of efficiency, yeah. Yeah. Let's try that. This goes back to the problem solving with construction because you're used to efficiency and safety

and you know what I mean? And so that's been your whole way of doing well let me tell you cars wheels wheels what i'm talking about wheels you're talking about offsets okay let you've tapped onto something very good andrew not because you're good probably specifically because i'm not no you've stumbled you remember when jed clampett was shooting at some food up through the ground came a bubble it wasn't trying to look for oil but that's what happened bumbled into that's what happened with you i struck oil you struck oil i'm going to tell you about that right after i tell you about our friend jordan harbinger you're

about to hear a preview of The Jordan Harbinger Show with iconic musician and producer Moby. It's a super real conversation about fame and mental health. Moby was really open on this one. My first punk rock show was to an audience of one dog, and my first electronic music show was to Miles Davis. In 1999, I thought that my career had ended. My mom had died of cancer.

I was battling substance abuse problems. I was battling panic attacks. I'd lost my record deal. And I was making this one last album. And I was like, okay, I'll make this album. I'll put it out. I'll move back to Connecticut. I'll get a job teaching philosophy at some community college.

And then all of a sudden, the world embraced me. I handled fame and wealth really disastrously. It was so humiliating. I wouldn't trade any of it. For more from Moby, including how he bounced back from a 400-drink-per-month booze habit, check out episode 196 of The Jordan Harbinger Show. All right, so Drew. Yeah.

And I'll put this to Byron and Emmy as well. In the physical, tangible world, especially in construction, and it has happened a couple of times, having to redo something is the worst day you can ever fucking have when you sheer wall the wall and you nail it according to the nailing schedule six in the field meaning the middle of the plywood i'm sorry 12 in the field that's probably 10 or something less now and then six every six inches on the thing and then at some point and it happens some guy comes on and this guy goes oh we're not doing uh bat insulation in between the bays we're going with rigid insulation what has to go on the outside

before the shear wall goes on you go oh fuck And then your foreman yells, oh, fuck. And then someone hands you a cat's paw and a hammer and goes, you got back out. We got to fucking pull this shit out. So reschedule the guys doing the rigid insulation or whatever. Now, the reality is you probably put the rigid insulation on the outside of the shear wall. But just for the layperson examples, been a few times, remember a few times, times you know hung a bunch of joist hangers which means you just nail by hand with these joist nails or tico nails or whatever all these things and they're like in the fucking wrong place and since i was a low guy in the tonal

pull i was a guy i got the cat's paw and the hammer to sit up there and bend all that there is a certain amount of redoing shit when you fuck it up, and it is brutal. And you just go, oh, fuck. We have to redo this thing, you know? And I got it in my head that redoing things is just,

just don't even want to go there. Punish it. It's punishable. Now, the digital world doesn't seem bothered by the redos. It's cut and paste, the digital world doesn't seem bothered by the redos. It's cut and paste. Because it's sort of digital. You know what I mean? Yep. But

in my tactile world, it's a redo. And I don't like redos. And I don't like second, third, and fifth conversations about the same thing. Because it feels to me like I'm back on the construction site with the cat's paw pulling the nails out of the shear wall. Or you can end up with a redo if things are not handled properly. You know what I mean? Well, the key with construction is how fast can we move

through this without a redo or any redo or the fewest redos. Yes, yes. So that's what you're asking for. And so when you live in the mechanical world, a redo is, it just happens. And when it happens, it's devastating. And so it gets seared in your brain. You don't want to do that. I think people who live and have lived, and I've told you this before, in the digital space do not have that relationship with that at all.

And they're sort of not bothered. They're not bothered by it. They also don't appreciate the impact of experiential learning. It's like, why are you the way you are? Relax, man. It's like, no, no, no. Experience taught me. And

experience is a fierce teacher. This is what I always tell people. They think they understand clinical medicine, some scientific stuff. It's like, unless you understand clinical medicine, you know, some scientific stuff. It's like the, unless you've done it unless you practice, you've been out there and seeing these illnesses in real space and

experiencing the relationship with it and what you do and how it works. No, no, you don't understand. Yeah. So does it matter is the question. And the question is, is, well, ultimately nothing matters nothing matters i mean ultimately you're here you're dead fantastic all right everybody see you later big big picture no it doesn't but in a world filled with tasks some nominal some medium size some larger let's spend the least amount of time possible discussing things

that have previously been discussed yeah yeah i think everyone understands that but but how to make it a priority motivation no everyone agrees with it yeah like uh the children are our future but they sign off on the notion of it, but they're not doing enough to prevent it. Yeah. Well, it's back to motivation, right? How do you motivate people to be interested in it?

Or by the way, your experience has taught you builds in motivation. How do you get everybody else on board? Well, the first thing that needs to be done is they need to recognize that something is a problem. Well, this is, this is, is, everything's dovetailing

to the same topic for me these days, which is persuasion and brainwashing, right? You're talking about how do you persuade somebody, persuade them to create the motivation. And I don't, I've never really thought about that in my life. I don't really understand persuasion very well. That's why I started listening to Scott Adams because he's a persuasion expert. But I think we live in a time

of, well, this is the topic I'm obsessing about, which is everybody's brainwashed. And so the only way to bring people out of brainwashing is with persuasion because arguments don't work. And it's back to your same thing about, why don why can't why don't they listen to me that i built you know i've told them a thousand that well you haven't persuaded somehow you know do you see what i'm saying well yes um anyway this i don't have answers it's well the answer here are the answers yeah i mean in terms of the brainwashing. One has to sort of distill things down to their sort of basic elements. You know what I mean? Yes. So you brought up Donald Trump and how everyone went nuts.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So one of the biggest lies was there's good people on both sides. Well, the first thing is, is he said both sides. He didn't say there's good Nazis. He said there's good people on both sides. But then why would he say that into a microphone in front of a group? Would he back white supremacists as a person who was motivated to be elected or reelected or, you know, where

what would motivate it? Or he's putting kids in cages at the border because he hates kids, because he's a cruel man. What now? Forget about the policy of putting kids in detention centers or whatever. What what is he doing doing what does he want bad press hates kids i mean maybe he does maybe he hates mexican kids i mean let's but let's see if we can figure this out first things is it a cage what what what is it you know i mean well it looks like it's chain link fence but my school had a

fence around it that was chain link but what do we why are the kids in a place that has a chain link fence around them well i guess you wouldn't want the kids wandering around the facility like at night or or something would you i would you want like a seven-year-old sort of bopping around? I guess it's okay. Now, is it a cage, like a tiger cage, or is it chain link? And could they do it in some way that was more aesthetically pleasing? Like I suppose they could build single-family residence and have a house mom or something, but it seems like a lot of money and a lot of time.

I don't think you could do it quickly. What's inside the cages? Are they sleeping on piles of hay or do they have mattresses, blankets or whatever? Are they being fed? Attended to medically? Separated? Why? Why those kids?

Are those kids, do they have a mom and a dad that are there that they could stay with or leave with? Are they unaccompanied and we don't know who they are? Like, let's really just see what the motivation is versus kids in cages. Because kids in cages means, A, you're just an evil person. And B, you have opened yourself to insane scrutiny. Yeah, for no good reason. For no good reason. Or you said bad people on both sides,

or good people on both sides. You've just opened yourself to that. So what would be your motivation, which I constantly do with everyone all the time and no one else wants to do it. I mean, as we're getting toward this presidential election, it's looking more and more like Trump's going to be in this thing again. What is that going to mean?

Because it's his style that people can't tolerate. I know. You know what I mean? Yes. And that's not going to change. No. And it's probably the same thing that's getting him his support, too. So it's just such an odd...

Well, here's a here's an interesting bizarre thing the other direction for me probably politically and emmy can look it up but i i turn on my um twitter this morning and there's this chat about Alicia Keys and Megyn Kelly was digging into Alicia Keys. And I thought, well, what did Alicia Keys say that would make Megyn Kelly go off on her? And I thought, well, obviously she probably said something in support of Hamas or something. All the Dumbo celebrities come out in support of, you know. They do that weird parse-out thing where it's like, I'm not for terrorism, but the good people of Palestine. You know, it's like, okay, we're the terrorists.

Rule. Okay. Anyway. And now proportionality is the big word, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we want it to go on forever now they're all and we wanted to go on forever they're all dumbos but anyway i'm sure lisa keys is a dumbo but or in that in that group at least but i said well what did she say that was so offensive to megan kelly and somebody

i read a thing that said somebody asked her what she would like to do that she's scared of or some challenge that she'd like to take. And I think she said hang gliding, which then brings you into Black Lives Matter and visions of. of, well, Black Lives Matter showed a picture of a hang glider with a Palestinian flag on it saying, we stand with Palestine. They're fucking, I've said about Black Lives Matter, same thing I said about PETA, just don't go nuts. Don't go nuts. There needs to be somebody in that group that just goes, you're losing everybody, man. You're just losing everybody.

All right. That just goes, you're losing everybody, man. You're just losing everybody. All right. So all I could read is that she wanted to go hang gliding. And I guess the question, Emmy, you can read it to us or something, but I guess the question was, now here's me. I'm like, well, maybe she wants to go hang gliding. Is this a reference to Hamas?

I know. Because they parasailed in over the music festival and slaughtered everybody. Yes. But is that what she wants? Because if you said to me, what is something you'd like to do but we're scared of, then I might say hang gliding. I probably wouldn't say it now i might wait a few months i've had my eyes on paragliding okay uh what's the difference in oh para it's kind of the same stuff parachuting right

but whatever you got a fan and you got a parachute. Alicia Keys' question, what would you do if you weren't afraid of anything? Tell the truth. I've had my eyes on paragliding, which is a legitimate answer to me. Now, it seems poorly timed, but Megyn Kelly's very upset. But I'm now defending Alicia Keys. Sure. Because I like Megan Kelly. And I'm sure Alicia Keys and I disagree on everything.

But I'm saying I may have given this answer. It's making me worried that Megan's getting a little too, whenever hysterics get involved. So Megan writes, my God, how's this not everywhere right now? Alicia Keys can post this and get ignored. No explanation. Hell no. Now,

somebody posted, Alicia Keys posted this pro Hamas filth on Instagram, even going so far as to say she's interested in paragliding, like Hamas paraglided in the concert towns or whatever but read the caption under now maybe

Alicia Keys was referring to this but I don't know I can't read her mind so it also falls under the heading of things you might be scared to do but like to try. Although there's a part of me, if I'm honest, that goes – and this is – I'm not happy that I had this thought. But it just occurred to me, which is how do you like cancel culture now?

You say something totally unrelated and they fucking go after you. How do you like it? Feel pretty good? Well, if Alicia Keys has a rich history of attacking Israel and being pro-Hamas or Palestine, then I guess one could infer. Yes. But in a bubble, I defend Alicia Keys. I do too.

Absolutely. Maybe she likes England. Even though I feel a little bit like, see what cancellation's like? Yeah, I get what you're saying. But no, I would defend her too. 100%. Unless there's some history there. Alright. So it can go. It's a two-way street. Alright. You can

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