The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1783 Clean Up in Aisle 5

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

Adam introduces Dr. Drew to the latest offering from the Gavin Newsom regarding discipline in schools, they explore the demographic in prisons, and the Mehdi Hasan and MSNBC mess. Plus, the greatest scene in television history? Please Support Our Sponsors: SimpliSafe.com/Adam2 The Jordan Harbinger Show - Available everywhere you listen to podcasts

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Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. Dr. Drew's board-certified physician. Here's a riddle for you. All right. Never thought about it. We've never started any show with a riddle for you. All right. Never thought about it. We've never started any show with a riddle. Well, I may have oversold it.

Okay. But it's food for thought or something to think about. It'll sound like it's sarcastically being asked, but it does bear an answer, and everyone should think about it. All right. Okay. So there's this great article, and Emmy can find it, Chris has it, but Gavin Newsom just did his thing where he's going to stop giving teachers, administrators the right to discipline kids in school because I hope you're sitting down.

It disproportionately affects black, brown, disabled, and low-income people. Disabled? Well, when he says disabled, it means like the kid has Tourette's and can't stop talking in class or something. I don't even know what they're talking about, but they don't know what they're talking about. But poor people can't stop acting out in class or something. I don't even know what they're talking about, but they don't know what they're talking about. But poor people can't stop acting out in class because, you know, that's how it would be like rich people be paid not to act out in class, but poor people have to act out. So it disproportionately affects, you know, and the question I always ask is, are those people acting out in disproportionate numbers? I agree

with you that they're being disciplined more. Could it be because they have a higher likelihood of acting out that group? Now, here's the riddle. If black men are disproportionately represented in prisons, which Gavin Newsom and all the Tencent heads go, well, that means they're being sought out, whatever. But then the question is, is are they disproportionately involved with crime? You know, which they are, of course. But, okay, that's your, that's the argument. Everyone is disproportionately is disproportionately represented. Max Pata, here's a question, because you're Asian. Asians are underrepresented in prisons.

So whatever their... So Chris has been the beneficiary of the fact that teachers ignore, do not go after his acting out. And the law. And the law. And the law. So I'm not saying it has to be a two-way street. So you can resist arrest and nothing happens? Yeah.

Yeah. I'm safe. Under the radar. But no, I'm saying. No, no. They have to actively not want to attack you. According to the logic, if you're going to dis, everyone needs to be represented in prison at the amount they're represented in society

otherwise something is afoot right yeah we're underrepresented actually I'm upset about that now so you're I don't know 6% of society and 2% of prison so it's unfair you're underrepresented so

so inactively doing that because according to them that's how it works like it's got to be a two-way street right right because if if you are not represented in proportion for what you are in society then it's because the fix is in yes the fix is in for blacks but the fix also has to be in for the people at the top of the food chain who aren't represented. And do we think that's happening? And if Gavin Newsom then would laugh, then I would tell him to shut the fuck up because that's his synopsis. All right, Chris.

You're dismissed? You're dismissed. Thank you for adjusting the clock. But what is, I mean, what is the Asian population in prison and the Asian population, the populous Asian in this country? And you could include like Eastern Indian and that. Southeast, Southeast, South Asian Indians. But, you know, what's interesting about it, I was just thinking about the Asians that I've encountered that end up in prison and things. They're usually really bad. Like they're really rough.

So, yeah, the fix must be in. Yes. Native American white. So just Asian is 2.25 and 1.4. So it's about double on the outside than on the inside. Versus 1.4% in the prisons. Yeah. Is it 7?

It's really 7% of 7%. Well, there you go. The whole population, Asian. Does that sound low or high to you do you no it sounds about right i mean the definition of asian i think this is not including indian i think and that that kind of stuff i think that's correct all right so they're wildly underrepresented in prison is that because somebody's got their thumb on the scale? No. Then is it because they tend as a culture to engage in less crime?

Yes. Okay. Well, maybe that's an answer that can help us. Or maybe there's something about not the – well, it's still culture, but the way they're raised with the schools or something, the education, the families. They don't go. They don't get sucked into that pipeline. Right. That's where the pipeline must be allergic to Asians.

Mm-hmm. It doesn't fit. Spits them right out. Yeah, they just can't fit in the pipeline. Can't fit. Well, they're diminutive people. Maybe they're not feeling the vacuum effect. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not the actual opening.

They're not being pulled as hard like a sail. All right. Drew, do you have that article? Yes, I do. California students can no longer be suspended for willful defiance. Could a nationwide change be next?

Oh, let's pray. Let's give teachers more problems disciplining kids. Oh, ACLU is involved with it. This is great. I wonder what side of this they're on. They're probably defending the teachers' rights to discipline kids, right? Two-part solution, ACLU. It's taking away the ability to remove students for trivial reasons,

and it's increasing the amount of support, more restorative justice more counselors more school psychologists school social workers it's a good thing the kids could also stop whatever it is they're doing when the teacher tells them to do it the first time but i i get i get i'd like the idea that they're that they're saying oh this isn't a discipline problem really what's underlying that is they're saying this is a mental health problem and we need mental health professionals to jump in here, which I agree with. Right. But if you said to the kid, hey, stop humming or whistling

or playing bongos on the desk and they won't stop, you can go, well, that's a mental health problem. But then you said, I'll give you $100 to stop, then they would stop immediately. So is it a mental health problem right because any one of the kids it can still be a mental health problem but it was acting out yeah would stop if you offered them a hundred dollar gift certificate yeah well maybe we have an answer and the ones that couldn't would have more severe mental health problems. Yeah. See, read it from the top. The top has a story.

It addresses the mental health problem, which is interesting. A black girl had been humming in one of his white colleagues' classes. His fellow teacher, Whitaker, said had asked the student to stop humming to no avail. The student was recommended for suspension for defiance. A subjective category under the California Education Code. Well, okay, hold on. It's a subjective category. Yeah. You want to know why it's subjective?

No. Because there's not enough paper in the land to cover humming, whistling, tapping, farting, belching, sneezing. We can't go, we can't say everything that's disruptive. Guess what? That's where tampering, disabling, tampering, disabling, destroying. That's where that comes in.

Like we're going to have to leave it up to the teacher who you guys all think are racist now because who's doing the suspending? Right. So you're saying the teachers who work at LA Unified are... They also can't be trusted to use their judgment. You're saying that unless it's defined on a legal document as to what this kid is doing,

they can't define what is being disruptive to their class. Yep. Okay. I would go ahead and trust teachers with that. I wouldn't trust them with anything COVID, but I would trust them with the ability to know when they were being interrupted teaching a lesson. Code says disrupted school activities

are otherwise willfully defined the valid authority of teachers, administrators, other school officials. Whitaker later learned the girl hummed to regulate her ADHD. Really? This is The Guardian, by the way. Yeah. A year later, Whitaker found himself in a similar situation. Let me ask you this.

Did this girl, when she went to see The Avengers, did she sit in the movie theater and hum the entire time or did she watch a fucking movie? I bet she watched a goddamn movie, Drew. How about that? All right, this regulated. Have you heard of humming therapy? I've heard of tapping and things,

and I can imagine somebody could use a little. They wouldn't have to hum so loud. That would be disruptive. And to be fair, in a theater when they're stimulated, the ADHD is not so present. When they're trying to concentrate, that's when it's – Well, be stimulated by the Revolutionary War, whatever the guy's teaching.

Actually, he's probably talking about pronouns. School said it had a social worker who could talk to and support the student who in the end avoided suspension. Yeah. All right. So you're kind of making, well, then what? They weren't suspended then. Right.

But they now want to just make sure they all get to the social worker. Well, look, if you have 88, first things first, everyone, listen to me. Listen to me. If there's 30 kids in a classroom and one of them has a disability, If there's 30 kids in a classroom and one of them has a disability and that disability is preventing the other 29 kids from imbibing this lesson, then that person needs to be removed. And you're like, what? They have a disability. Yeah, I get it.

They're also not allowed to play on the football team. They have a disability. It stops you from doing things. But you can't put the rest of the class at jeopardy it's not you do do they understand that concept because they've completely lost that concept well you're hurting the rest of the class so the person needs to be removed i don't say they need to be expelled i'm just saying they need to be removed and they need to be put somewhere where their humming isn't going to be disruptive to the class. You have sort of put your finger on a philosophy. Yes, I have. But that doesn't really exist today. No, it does not. The opposite is thought to be true, which is the weakest of the most vulnerable, the ones that must have the priority in all situations. Yes. Which they

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All right. Drewski. Yeah. Did we play – was I playing that clip of Mehdi Hassan who was talking about the dangerous myths of learning loss and stuff? Did I play that clip of Mehdi Hassan who was talking about the dangerous myths of learning loss and stuff? Did I play that clip for you on this show? I don't think so.

It's really funny because as we talked about, we're at a point, a chapter now, where everybody who said with absolute authority what was going on with COVID for three years turned out to be wrong. And now they have to go back and address these things. But they don't address them being wrong. They just rewrite everything. Yes.

Which I don't think we're going to let them get away with that. Well, they're trying. There's enough people who are harmed. We're going to let them get away with that. There's enough people who are harmed. There's enough truth or people trying to figure out what happened and look at the excesses realistically. And unfortunately, the press is not interested in it, so you have to find it on social media, but it's out there.

Yeah, I had the clip Emmy somewhere. I never played this for you? Uh-uh. It's awesome. Mehdi Hassan, I don't know who he is, but he's he's medhi hassan i don't know he is but he's on msnbc so you can imagine what msnbc has to do msnbc has to go clean up the mess they made for three years of lying to everyone about covet so now i'm gonna bet that we haven't heard this yet but i'm gonna bet they don't they don't address the the inappropriateness of the policy.

You know what I mean? I'm sure they'll get into what it costs, what it's done, but they won't ever say, Oh, well, that's what they do. We never should have shut the schools down. Oh, suicide rates are up and learning is down. What happened? Well, what are you going to do? What happened?

You happened. That's what happened. That's right. Here it is. Today, I want to address this thorny and very emotive issue of kids, schools and COVID, because we have seen a blatant and bad faith rewriting of history on this issue from a lot of people who should know better. And so I think this today, what you're about to watch is one of the most important deep dives I've ever done on this show, because the myths about children and COVID, that kids aren't really harmed by it, that school closures were a massive and avoidable mistake, that they cause learning loss and mental health issues.

Those myths, and they are myths, dangerous myths, have endured for so long, become so ingrained, so pervasive. So if you're someone who inexplicably is not moved. Pause it for a second. They've gone on for so long. They've started well after the shutdowns started. Nobody originally, I mean, of course, somebody said, hey, you're going to shut schools, you're going to put kids behind. But they weren't, there were no data on it.

The data all kind of came out afterward about how far kids were behind. Would you, would you typify that or classify that as a dangerous myth? No, it's weird. Or that COVID saying COVID doesn't really affect kids. Dangerous myth, shutting down schools, set kids learning back. Dangerous myth. Shutting down schools. Set kids learning back. Dangerous myth.

Weird. He's addressing it, Drew. Okay, good. I always like when they go, people who should know better. What do you mean? Well, what you're saying is you're calling them liars. I think when you say you should know better. But who are these people and then what are they saying?

What's their motivation? Oh, I don't know. Hey, run it back a couple seconds. We'll play it. Those myths, and they are myths, dangerous myths, have endured for so long, become so ingrained, so pervasive. So if you're someone who inexplicably is not moved by the preventable deaths of thousands of kids, well, just think about how much worse it could have been for everyone in America. How many more kids and adults would have died if we hadn't closed any schools at all? All right. So there I was going to come up next, Jose, that the title of it is, you know,

that the title of it is, you know, I don't know, dangerous school mess, but it really should just be clean up aisle five. I was fucking lying and wrong. And so was everybody on this motherfucking network for three years. And now I have to launch a special that makes us right. Yeah. So thousands of kids die. This is the zone I'm always sort of really interested in. This is two weeks old, Drew.

No, but I know these people are out there. He's the guy who wants the ministry of truth so we don't get fooled with misinformation. Yeah, perfect. He'll be in charge. Yes. What is a dangerous myth? That's the scariest part of all this, right? That's so scary.

So scary. What is the dangerous myth about schools being closed? So thousands of kids died, but closing the schools prevented thousands more from dying. Which we have no evidence of, right? I mean, how'd it go in Florida? Mehdi Hassan, every motherfucker in this motherfucking country got fucking COVID at least fucking once. Can we just start there?

Yeah. If everyone got it, and everyone did, except for possibly me, I don't know. Because people would say, well, you had a cold or two. Like, why didn't you check? Because I'd go, who the fuck cares? And they'd go, well, what about spreading it to who? Everyone who's had it twice or is vaccinated or unvaccinated. Everyone's, everybody got it.

So how did this prevent people from getting it? Now, he'd probably say it bought them time so they could be vaccinated. Well, that didn't, I don't know if we ever got to 50% vaccinated in this country. Drew, that's your department. What did we get to? I mean, Emmy's got to look

it up. She's going to tell me how many vaccinated people are in prison now by race. I don't know if we got over 50%. I think we did. But maybe we got to 60%. I think we did. But that still leaves 100 million Americans who are not vaccinated.

Many. How did it work? Did they get COVID? We stopped it from Many. How did it work? Did they get COVID? We stopped it from spread. How do we stop it from spreading? Oh, but if it would have spread at all, what?

Oh, 70%. If kids got it all at once, then what? Yeah. It didn't affect kids. Oh, but they all live with their grandparents.

The thousands of kids die or like, well, kids without preexisting conditions did not die at all here that's number one kids with pre-existing conditions could have and multiple pre-existing conditions and i don't even know how many of them died of covid here's the thing that's conflating right now. So, sorry, 70%. Yeah. All right. So that's 230 million Americans, which still leaves another 100 million Americans that weren't vaccinated.

100 million, last I checked, is a decent size number. But go ahead. Maybe I'll check again. But what's being conflated presently is, first of all, Alpha and Delta was a much worse illness. And the vaccine probably didn't interrupt some of that. So good. After that, things get very different. There's a difference between original vaccine series and boosting, especially when people have had COVID, as you said.

And we have treatments for COVID now. Lots of them that are good. Horse paste. It's what you got, bro. They're blessed Paxlovid. It's an excellent drug. So this is all weirdly conflated now. It's a treatable illness.

Most people have had it. Most people have been vaccinated. The risk reward for young people is unclear. And if anything- No no it's clear you if anyone had a chance to redo a vax for their young kids they would not do it and on top of that that would then include the risk reward for masking where there's zero to ten doesn't work yeah uh school closure where look at florida was that kids die in flor Florida to grandma die in Florida. Bring the body bags. Right.

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He was going to die of sexual tension. Some weird. Well, she was on another one, too. A lot of these people were on multiple ones yeah interestingly i think the same one had the brady bunch dad in it and was it this one and he had a young girl that was in love with him yeah so his friend's daughter yeah well i don't think you can beat the doc performing surgery at sea that was the best one that was the best one that was awesome no no oh no oh oh no tell me oh amy man all will be forgiven if you can summon this one up

barbie benton yeah i saw her cup she's on a couple of them. Barbie Benton, Love Boat. Yeah. She was on an episode where she had her man about town sort of Lothario fiance or something who kept putting off marriage. Okay. And he did a thing. It used to be a trope. Remember this trope? Yeah.

Remember this trope? Many of them. Remember this trope. All right. You know, they'd pull me over and they'd go, you know, the woman would go, you were with a friend last night. What friend? What friend were you with? Because I think you're with a woman.

And then I go, and then I look around and I see Norton's Hardware Store and I go, Norton. Yeah, yeah, Norton, Norton. They look and see something, a street sign or something and then fill it in. Or the dog's name or something.

Yes, absolutely. He was like saying, so they were, they're in Dr. Bricker's office. Jesus. With the boyfriend. Bricker's office with the boyfriend. And she's like, we need to get married when we get to Puerto Vallarta. And he said, oh, we can't get married in Puerto Vallarta.

And he looked around and saw a magazine. And it said like, Holloway vacations or something something and he went does holloway's disease is there and she went what oh yeah it's too dangerous we can we'll get married later but we can't get married there and then she quiet she caught him and then she said uh oh he said i have holloway's disease i can't i don't feel good I can't get married. So then Barbie Benton went to the doc. And she went, this rascal's playing a trick on me. And now I'm going to play a trick on him. I kind of remember this one. Go in.

I'm going to bring him in to see you. Like, honey, you have Holloway's disease. You need to see the doctor. So he goes to the doctor. Oh, I remember this one. And he goes, play a trick on him. And then he examines him. Tell him he's got a bad disease on him. And then he exams, tell me he's got a bad disease

or whatever. And then they come in. It could be the greatest scene in television history. He tells them to hold this book. And then he goes, I thought so. You have Luke Eric's disease. And then she's going, good job, doc. You got him now. And he's like, you understand he has Luke Eric's disease.

He's got weeks to live. It's the greatest conceder. All right, we'll see if we can play it. Darling, talk to Adam. You have to let him examine you. He might be able to find something everybody else missed.

Please, for my sake. Lucy. Isn't that one of the Hardy Boys? I can't have my hopes raised again. It's too painful. But you deserve the best that medical science has to offer. I'm going to make sure you get everything you deserve. Here it's you.

Peter, you poor guy. Well, let's see what we can do. Doc, Doc, I warn you, my disease has very, very subtle symptoms. Almost invisible. Not with the right instruments. Uh-oh. He pulls out a syringe. A bone saw.

Mostly painless. Take your shirt off and hang in the next room. Please, Peter. I don't want you to die. She's in on the joke. no he sees something they they come to ricker looking very concerned i don't know if that was that or not because how else does he do the he's even conceiving now i can't ethically use any of that stuff on him oh can't you make him think he really is sick i can't't do that either, but I can scare the beans out of him and maybe make him come clean. I was thinking I'd like to try some traction for about two or three weeks and then ice baths.

Yes, three ice baths a day. Oh, no, no, no. It's hopeless. Believe me, I have seen the best. You haven't seen anything yet. Both cutters. Okay. I don't remember all this stuff.

That's a scope in ice. Oh! Excessive sensitivity in the pectoral region. Hmm. Checking reflexes by hitting him in the bicep? Yeah, no, you don't. Unless you're wasting it.

Hold it, Peter. Uh-oh. Oh, he sees something. Feels something in the bicep. Uh-oh. You can feel Lou Gehrig's? You can see fasciculations. What's fasciculation?

The muscles going like this. They fasciculate. Uh-oh. And proximal fasciculation is a pretty bad sign. They're getting serious. Muscle spasms this. They fasciculate. Uh-oh. And proximal fasciculation is a pretty bad sign. They're getting serious. Muscle spasms. He means fasciculations. Uh-huh.

Peter, I want you to lift this book with your arm straight up. He wouldn't do that. He doesn't know he has a Luke, Gary. He can't lift the book. Oh, but he dropped it, which is not part of the character. How long have you had this weakness? About a month or so. I keep dropping things all the time.

I'll probably just pull a muscle or something. Is it getting worse? Well, maybe. Yeah, I guess it is. Lucy. I like the music. Would you mind leaving us for just a little while? Sure, Doc.

He's like, good job. You're in on it. She still thinks it's a hoax. The crazy part about this episode is after he was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease, they left. All right. They go to him telling her she has Lou garrick's which you don't have to show but the point is well maybe it should by the way all's forgiven emmy you came up with it well

done yes he's like damn there it is hold on but it could be quite serious all right technically it's called amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. Amyotrophic. The common name is Lou Gehrig's disease. I'm sorry. All right, I just got Lou Gehrig's disease. Oh, doc. Let's see.

Look, I saw that movie. Come on, Gary Cooper died from that. now he did get diagnosed with lou gehrig's disease but when they left the ship a day later they were in great spirits when they left the ship they were laughing Because they're going to get married. That's all that counts. Saying that laughter cures. You got to watch them leave the boat. Oh, my God. You forgot that part. I don't remember that at all. The laughter will cure.

The love and the laughter will see them through. They don't actually say something like that. No. I mean, okay. It's implied. Here they are. They're leaving. Next day.

Walking fine. Happy. It's implied. Here they are. They're leaving. Next day. Walking fine, happy. How's it going? Carrying a briefcase. Not bad. Not bad at all. Good, good. Medically speaking, I'd say your good spirit significantly improved the prognosis. Come again, Doc?

Oh, I think he's telling us that happiness is the best medicine. Yeah, but I can't charge as much if I say it that way. Best of luck. Thank you very much, Doc. Bye, Doc. All smiles. He was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease the day before. Now he's in a pretty good mood because he had a night to sleep on it.

Maybe. I don't know. Wait, was that the one with, last name is Smith? Her name is like that woman. I don't care. He's in a good mood. They got it. You know, you're always trying to figure out how certain women become kind of the toast

of the media. How did Barbie Benton become the woman of the latter half of the media how did barbie benton become the woman of the latter half of the 70s she was just like alliteration her name yeah barbie yeah barbie benton her name was gertrude benton wouldn't have taken uh hefner playboy big smile and it looks sort of vivacious yes look at that energy look at those eyes yeah split up you know yeah it was a sex symbol. Why? All right.

She's beautiful. What are you talking about? She's pretty, for sure. But I mean, why her? Barbie Benton was her name. And it has to be somebody. All right. Tonight and tomorrow night, Spokane, Washington, doing shows at Spokane Comedy Club.

And then Tacoma. Tacoma Comedy Club, October 29th. And the next, I guess that's Sunday, I guess. I just got AdamCrow.com, figure it out. Drew, what do you got? Check out the streaming show, Dr. Drew.TV, and come see us in San Jose on October 28th with RFK Jr.

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