The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1786 Down Florida Way

Episode Date: November 3, 2023

Adam is once again joined by Dr. Drew from the sunshine state and Chris, in-studio and ready to dish out the news. They start with an update on the recent attempted flight hijacking, which leads them into a conversation about flight security and the effects of psychedelics. Plus, a spirited round of 'Germany or Florida?' Please Support Our Sponsor: The Jordan Harbinger Show - Available everywhere you listen to podcasts

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Yeah, get it on. Got to get on. Dr. Drew in Florida. Down, down Florida way. How would they say that, Drew? Way. They would go down. It would be like in songs.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Like they used to say Florida way. Not Florida way, but down, Florida way. They'd say way at the end of wherever you're from. And they'd always, and then they would also go by way of. Yeah. But listen, I'm going to just give you some sort of weird impressions i have

you never said you know down alaska way you know it's and it was always am i right that it was always sort of like a a train reference like you're going i don't know it'd be i would hear it in a song and then the other one you'd hear like the old-time fight announcer where you'd go, you know, 168 pounds, fighting out of New Brunswick by way of Albuquerque, New Mexico, by way of. I don't know. By way of meant you were born there, but now you moved to New Brunswick or something? I don't know. By way of meant you were born there, but now you moved to New Brunswick or something. I don't know what by way of. It must mean you were born there and you moved. It just means you stayed there on the way.

You stopped there before you made it all the way to where you are now. No. By way of, it would be like, first I settled in Albuquerque, but then I thought, no, not for me. I'm going all the way to where you are now no no it'd be my way it would be like i i first i settled in albuquerque but then i thought no not for me i'm going all the way to la okay is that what that means i get that's what it sounds like it means but it doesn't really make sense if you stopped in albuquerque for 14 months yeah you know what i mean i i know you got to look up by way of because that's i i remember hearing that yeah i mean it was said but does it mean you were born there or you just came from there she has a sense by way the route of through via by way of versus a sense of passing through you're

right but but then what is it uh let's see so pennsylvania by way of illinois i passed through illinois or you spent some time but it would not yeah spend some time you wouldn't be just driving through illinois yeah yeah you'd have to spend some time there yeah all right um so i i do want to hear your guys' thoughts on this story. Remember last week when there was that flight from Washington to San Francisco by way of Washington? And that guy tried to take down that plane. So now reports have come out as we record this that he's claiming that he was on magic mushrooms during all that. I like the way Max Peta has to put his spin on an editorial comment. What did I do this time?

He's now claiming. That's what he is. That's what he's claiming. Come on, Drew. No, he reported that he ingested mushrooms, and he was in a psychotic state. Yeah. But there's many layers to this right so one is um everybody is so casual about these fucking mushrooms and lsd and right and microdosing it has consequences everybody

not the least of which is you may not be able to do your job or you could have manias. Listen, I've talked to some important people, some public figures who started developing manias around microdosing psilocybin. So it's clearly, yes, it may have benefits on depression. We don't know the consequences. There are no free lunches in Mother Nature. There's always risk. Now, it's going to have utility, but we don't understand the risk yet. The problem, which is the next layer of this story, is that people

are effing taking it on their own to treat depression. And pilots is the third layer to this story, will go to great lengths to hide any mental health issues. They're not allowed to take antidepressants. They want to keep flying, but they go to all kinds of lengths to hide what's happening to them. And so I'm sure what he did, I'm sure he had a very severe depression. He started trying to treat it on his own with mushrooms.

And here we go. Perfect storm. Yeah, I was trying to figure out the story where this was, This did happen. And somebody tweeted me, and I can't remember if I followed up, but there was, I think, an Egyptian Airlines flight. Oh, yeah, Egypt Airlines. And an Austrian airline, too.

We couldn't find it on the internet when I was talking about it. There was an Austrian guy, too, remember? The Austrian guy just crashed the plane? Yeah, that was into a mountain, I think, and this one's into the ocean. And it's been done before, which is a scary thought, if one would think about it. And then you... You know what he did here, though? He was out of his mind.

He was psychotic. And he reached for some sort of fire retardant or alarm suppression cockpit yeah because he was riding in the jump seat with the pilots and it would have shut the engines down then when they got him out of the the flight deck he started trying to open the door to the plane mid-flight yeah that's when they had to really take him you know restrain him i don't think you can open a door mid-flight uh because of the pressure but uh one would also wonder how much how much technology is on a new airplane in that if it's a new airplane, I mean, look, airplanes are advanced and they have many safety innovations.

And there's two sides to every story. But I would imagine that airplanes would have auisher on air, on functioning, on jet engines that were operating in the parameters of safe. Seems weird, doesn't it? It seems like they'd have that. They could figure that one out. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? On the other hand, you would want to give the pilot the ability to do things in there if the sensor for the fire was malfunctioning or something and the engine was actually on fire. Like there's kind of a two, you know, it's kind of two sides here. Should the plane override and prevent you from putting it into a full-blown dive and just going into a catastrophic dive where even the speed would exceed the limits of the airframe and stuff like that?

Like, should, would... Like, there are sensors on everything, right? Yeah, like on 9-11, when the guys got into the cockpit and they were like, you know, clumsily flying the plane at full throttle at a low altitude, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Would a plane that rolled off the assembly line today take over? It's interesting. Because you've got to believe that there's some modality. I mean, just like your car. It literally, modern cars just come to a stop when somebody comes in front of you and stops. You know what I mean? They're not going to steer for you you but they're getting into the sort of steering for you what would I mean I sometimes I kind of think to myself like I have a brand new

electric car it will apply the brake but what if I just tried to steer it off a mountain road like would it hit the brake before I got to the guardrail or would it just let me sail off it won't let me plow into the car in front of me right i think that's as far as it goes yeah i think like a tesla would not let you do that although wasn't there one that went off and well there was probably no railing or something there was a well i mean there's been accidents with driverless cars or in driver mode or something like that. But a lot of that's been involved, a visual thing like a reflection off the side of an 18 wheeler that screwed it up. And then a self-driving car in San Francisco like ran over a woman and hurt her very badly.

badly um so i i would love if i was talking to someone from airbus or or a or you know or boeing or something i would want to know and by the way i don't even know if they would share this information with everybody uh but i would assume these factors are like, look, maybe the fucking pilot, you know, maybe he has a heart attack and slumps over and hits the fire suppression knob or something like that. I mean, look, they,

they have things in, in like cockpits and, and sometimes in race cars and stuff like that. And in fighter jets and stuff like that, they have spring-loaded caps over the toggle switches you can't be reaching back and hit one by you have to pop the cap up then throw the switch like they don't they don't make it easy for you to turn around and hit something with your elbow and have the flaps come down you know you have to depress things and pull

them simultaneously and they've they got that part down. But I would bet from a technological standpoint, they're saying this plane is one big fly-by-wire computer. And if we're at cruising altitude and the engines are within the temperature, you know, all the sensors on the edge, everything checks, and you pull that fire suppression switch, I don't think it would go off. But I don't know. I mean, I bet the pilot knew because he knew exactly what to do. But what about drones and people flying remotely?

Maybe just have a couple guys there for emergency measures. But if it's all on autopilot anyway, do you see maybe a future of us just doing everything from the ground? Flying the plane from the ground. Now, there's two facets of this. One is the actual mechanical, technological side of it. Can we do it? Is it safe?

So on and so forth. And then the other is the flying public wants to see the guy, the captain. You know, they don't, listen, here's a thought experiment. If pilots started just dressing in sweatshirts and sweatpants

and flip-flops, we wouldn't trust them. You know what I mean? Like, well, why can't the guy fly the plane in a hoodie and sweatpants and and in crocs why can't he fly that plane in crocs i'd go i i know he can i know he can but i want a guy with a fucking tie on and some epaulettes you know what i mean and a hat yeah so we wouldn't be comfortable with a pilot doing that we wouldn't be comfortable with no pilot that's yeah that's the problem.

But it would be interesting if people could fly from the ground in case something happened or something. Or an override from the ground. Well, anyway, so this happens weeks after our Gavin Newsom vetoed a bill that would have decriminalized mushrooms. Oh, right.

That's right. That's another. Oh, he vetoed that. He vetoed it. Oh, right. That's right. That's another. Oh, he vetoed that. He vetoed it. Oh, wow. Yeah. It sounds normal. It sounds normal.

I swear. Yeah, we got a little bit of whiplash from that one. Yeah. But yeah, he vetoed it. So, all right. Well, it's going to come in some sort of fashion because it will have utility. But this business of people doing it on their own is just freaks me out like listen it's really the same thing as pot it's the same fucking it's the

same path right yeah it's it's look if you said to everybody in california would you rather your kids smoke cigarettes or smoke pot they'd go smoke pot and they go if you're at your kids smoke cigarettes or smoke pot, they'd go smoke pot. And they'd go, if you're at your kids smoke pot or just vape like nicotine, they'd go smoke pot. And it's like, okay, you're fucking idiot. You're an idiot. But that's,

but that's, but that's, that's not because they're thinking on their own. They've been, they've been fed that information, been fed that. So they got scrambled and that's the way they think. I would not want my kids smoking pot

at all especially today's pot and i remember alex parents and came out with a book six years five years ago basically said this is fucking up kids and then he got attacked by all the cool kids called tell your children my daughter is now two years into cannabis sobriety i handed her alex's book she devoured it went oh my god i've seen everything here it happened to me or it happened to my friends why didn't you tell me sooner was her thing that was her friend i went i told you a thousand times yeah i showed you this book in fact what are the what are the long-term effects chris asks anxiously i don't i don't smoke i actually don't smoke.

Right now, look, it can be nothing, right? Plenty of people smoke weed and it's no big deal, but it can cause addiction, right? If you're getting into dabs, you're addicted. It will start to preoccupy you. It will take over your life like every addiction. It will affect your thinking and your priorities and all the good stuff. The withdrawal is pretty nasty these days from something like dabs. People actually get psychotic in withdrawal. But the bigger problem is we're seeing lots of manic psychosis because of the concentration of the weed is like 100%

in many cases. And there's a real weird hallmark symptom that people get that I've seen over and over again. They will complain. They get irritable, agitated, grandiose, like lots of grandiose thinking. And then they'll say, you're not listening to me. They'll just repeat that over and over again. You're not listening. You're not hearing me. And it's part of this grandiose thing they get. And it's it's could go very bad, very bad, very dangerous. There is a subset of very successful people who rely on pot yeah yeah yeah no listen i know lots of them and uh good for them yeah either we may find there's something different about them or maybe it was the way they ramped it up maybe they so got tolerant to it back when it wasn't so concentrated and sort of now they're okay because it's they're kind of tolerant

to it i don't know what it is, but we all, I said, Chris, at the outset, I said, we all know people smoke a lot of weed and do fine. Good for them. The problem is because of the, it's not the weed that I was working with 10, 20 years ago, treating people at all. And people used to progress from weed to other things. Now they don't really do that because the weed is so powerful. They stay with that until they get into trouble and that's when we see them

yeah and just because you know bill maher can manage his weed intake and be successful doesn't mean your fucking kid's going to be bill maher your kid's going to be a stoner loser who forgets a lot of shit. That's who your kid's going to be. But do you think Bill Maher would be better without the pot? Well, I think most musicians that kick whatever they

were on thought for a while they wouldn't be creative anymore, but it turns out that they always say I played better or whatever it is it makes sense on the other hand there's something too I imagine not

physiologically but sort of emotionally to go in when I am done with this endeavor that has a lot of pressure and is kind of a high intensity environment, whether it's hosting a TV show or doing an hour of stand up or whatever it is, then when I'm done, I partake in this thing. alcohol, marijuana, whatever, whatever your whatever that thing is, a big slice of German chocolate cake. You know, that's what I get when I'm done.

And and then relax and and I sleep better that night or something. Or maybe it's just the carrot at the end of the stick that says, you know, I'm going to enjoy when I'm done with all this to have a nice bong load or a nice cocktail and sort of, you know, so there's probably a benefit, you know, because Bill doesn't get stoned and then do his TV show. Exactly. He gets stoned and does his podcast. And you can tell. Yeah. There's a difference. There's a difference there's a difference but and

and but if he's at you know he's working all week on his monologue and on on all his talking points and that whole thing and then he comes home and wants to blow a little reefer in the safety of his own home i don't think it's going to make him funnier, but it's going to act as a kind of reward mechanism possibly to help him relax and then, and, and say, you've earned it. You know what I mean? I don't begrudge anybody, anything, whatever they want to do is fine, but they just need to understand the risk. And, um, it's different than it used to be that's all it's just you have to just pay attention and if you start somebody's telling you you're changing you don't seem yourself but pay attention to that because that's that is what is happening to people all right yeah go ahead it just it's just awareness that's all i mean look i just think this idea that uh

you know you're not the boss of me yeah you adam Adam and I are fully on board with that. We want to be left alone to do whatever we want to do. We are with everybody who says that. But I'm a physician. I get to see the medical consequences of the choices people make. That's all. All right. Now let's hear from our friend Jordan Harbinger. You're about to hear a preview of the Jordan Harbinger show with Jack Barsky, a Soviet spy who infiltrated America and ended up staying because he wanted to become a real American. They called me back as an emergency departure. I was stalling the Soviets.

And then one day they send one of their resident agents and he said to me, you've got to come home or else you're dead. It was a threat. I decided I would defy them and tell them that I'm not returning. Tell us how you got caught, because the story is just not complete until you, like you said, had to face your past. I was stopped on the other side of a toll gate. A fellow introduced himself. He says, Joe Riley, FBI. And he showed me this badge. The first question I asked, am I under arrest? And the

answer was no. Then I said, what took you so long? For more from Jack Barsky, including how Jack was finally caught by the FBI and what happened after that, check out episode 285 of The Jordan Harbinger Show. All right. Yeah. So here's the whole thing. Pot, mushrooms, dabs, whatever. It's not good for you, but it doesn't mean you can't do it. But let's stop ascribing some sort of magical quality to it. There's nothing magical to it. There's a magical quality to scotch. It's not good for you, and there's nothing magical quality to scotch. It's not good for you and there's nothing magical about it.

But if you'd like to responsibly consume scotch, then that'll be your business. Would I hope that my kid consumes a lot of scotch or a lot of marijuana? I would say no, I wouldn't. And by the way, it's an easy fucking math to do. Anytime you would wish your kid not to do something or to do something, then that

means it applies to your fucked up ass. Right. You go, oh, I would like my kid to not smoke pot and get a lot of exercise and be engaged and involved and be outdoors a lot. Go find a mirror. Yeah, reflection. And just replace your kid with you. Just cut it off right at you.

You. Not your. Cut the your off and the kid part. That's you. I would hope he has a lot of friends. Lead by example. I was a good citizen and he works hard and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That'll be you.

And he eats in a responsible, nutritious way. You know, it's all. That'll all be you. Doesn't run afoul of the law right okay all right let's play some germany or florida because drew's in florida right now he might have an advantage it's changed though it's changed since when adam and i used to talk about it but that's interesting so maybe we can still do it yeah let's recite a little bit adam how did this come about uh was probably coined on loveline i would imagine and then once i figured it out on

loveline i then brought it to a late night show i was working on i think we used to do germany florida and that i oh i'll remember playing germany or florida when I was guest hosting, I guess Craig Kilbourne moved on or something and there was a late night show, whatever. And I was kind of- No, yeah, they were trying out hosts. Yeah, I was in the mix. There was like three or four people that they wanted me to host,

but then they wanted to look at some other people. And then I hosted like three nights and I did it Germany or Florida florida i think on on that show and um what happened with that show by the way is they they'd say they kept saying like we'll tell you next week you know we'll tell you we're making our decision on monday or something and after about three of those mondays where they kept kicking the can down the road i just said i'm out yeah um because i had another i remember that night show to do yeah yeah yeah yeah so i was like what what are you doing yeah what's wrong with you remember that well i didn't

like being jerked around and i had another late night show opportunity to work on so after about the third procrastination I just said I'm pulling my name out. Going somewhere else. But I did it on TV a few times and we used to do it. So I have a few stories here. Let's just guess if they're Germany or Florida.

So this first one. A man was arrested Tuesday after being caught having sex with a stuffed animal inside a department store. Witnesses told police that they saw the 20-year-old take a large Olaf from Frozen off

the store shelves and begin to dry hump the toy. Then he ejaculated onto the Olaf doll and put it back on the shelf before he selected a large unicorn-stuffed animal and began to have sex with that object as well. He was taken into custody while in the store. He was arrested and charged with criminal mischief.

The Olaf and unicorn-stuffed animals were removed from the store and destroyed. Couldn't they just clean them up and pass the savings along? Yeah, put it in the clearance rack. Yeah, like you buy the... Just a little crunchy Olaf on the rack. Seam and savings. No, but listen, you buy the...

You know, when I used to buy appliances and they had the fridge with the dent in the side, okay, they pass it along. You know what I mean? It was $2,200, now it's $1,700 because there's a dent in the side okay they pass it along you know what i mean that was it was 2200 bucks now it's 1700 bucks because there's a dent you know what you're getting yourself it's a floor model it's a floor model now i didn't say don't clean it up i said clean it up and then pass along the savings yeah that's all you're thinking like a true businessman your kid wants to cuddle something tonight and you don't have a ton of dough you know what i'm saying so so chris you told us this story why uh germany or florida

oh okay yeah these are the wackiest stories come out of germany or florida doesn't even know what we're doing yeah i forgot what we were doing he's shocked i would just say california i would override california is getting up there with these crazy stories too i i i think a lot of people have sort of ripped off my germany or florida idea from 25 years ago seth meyers i do see a lot of people let's not forget whether it's making fun of the smoke detector low battery or germany florida that's all the ace man everybody and that shit goes back 25 years and it's chronicled it's it's on tape of me talking about it 25 years ago i will bear witness i was there okay so so hang on now so

let's discuss germany florida florida so I'm getting around Florida here right now. Certainly in Central and Southern Florida there's not a lot of homeless people, guys. They sort of take care of business here. And by that I mean people with sufficiently severe mental illness that they are wandering around in an altered state

and would jack off on a unicorn or use the unicorn or whatever they were doing but nor but but you know the panhandle i don't know uh it could be up in northern florida somewhere i i guess it's a possibility but i guess i'm gonna have to say germany because it's just florida looks a little cleaned up and usually chris they give us some hints like you know you know was this um you know near a trailer park or was it maybe a little too easy if they try their best to remove the cultural well and it will be fair unicorn smacks of florida because it says disney kind of sort of

and by the way i've never seen so many stuffed animals. Wait, wait. Unicorn doesn't really say Disney, but Olaf says Disney. But isn't Olaf feels European to me? Well, but he's the ice. He's the snowman that was voiced by Josh Gad on Frozen. So that screams Disney. I think the reason I said Unicorn screams florida is because i was just in a gift shop where there was unicorns all over the place as well as disney characters and things and uh and i've never seen so many tchotchke you know shops is just florida's over overrun by that stuff

so i'm going to switch my vote i'm going to go back to florida just because of the the nature of the stuffed animals i'm going germ Germany just to make a game out of it. Okay. This was in St. Petersburg, Florida at a Target. Oh, man. So there you go. Drew has the advantage. He's there.

He's in the mix. Oh, when he said Germany, I was just going to go Florida just to counter your game. Well, you guys can guess collectively. It's fine. All right. This next one. I was just going to go Florida just to make it a game. Yeah. Well, you guys can guess collectively. It's fine. All right. This next one. So people who identify as dogs, they gather together, prompting calls for animal control.

There are about a thousand individuals who self-identify as canines. They went to a downtown city center for a meetup. Yeah. They call themselves trans-species activists. they don't have seen them i i've done your mom's house i've they've shown me videos of that stuff yeah there's a guy in japan who spent like two million dollars to make himself into a dog i believe right holly he turned himself into a collie uh i uh oh my god I what's wrong with human beings I just can't but so it's been in the United States quite a bit but it has a definite

German feel to it you know what I mean I'm going to say Germany now you're saying prompting calls to animal control prompting calls for animal control I don't understand I tried to do some deeper a deeper dive into what they wanted, but all they said was, we just want animal control.

But I bet it was just for them to get together just to say, hey, we identify as dogs, and there are dozens of us. They want to be controlled because there are so many of them at the city center? I think they want to be validated. That's what it is. That they're actual animals because if guys are chasing around with butterfly nets,

then they're just nut jobs. But if the animal control guy comes out, then you've verified that you are, you know, it's like, I don't know, the first time a guy cuts his dick and balls off and then at some point the first visit to the gynecologist must mean something symbolically to that idiot. Right. OK. Now I'm a woman.

Now I'm a woman. Yeah. Fair enough. Drew's scared because they because they have a very strong lobby, all the nut jobs, and then they scare everybody. So it's like at first it was like black lives matter it's like don't don't don't don't don't say anything you can't say anything you can't say anything it'll be ruined and then it went somehow into the trans movement like you can't don't say anything they'll they'll ruin you fuck all you people that's how we got here is by

people going to fuck i don't want to say anything about black lives matter that say anything about anything covet that's how we that's how we got to these places normal people when I don't want to say anything about Black Lives Matter. Say anything about anything. COVID. That's how we got to these places. Normal people went, I don't fucking want any. That, come on, Drew. Yep. Who told Scientology to fuck off 25 years ago? Who told them? Who told them to fuck off?

Whoa, whoa. I heard an apology. All the heroes are stepping up against Scientology now. Yeah, now. Now that everyone knows they're paper tiger and they do nothing. Now. 25 years ago, I didn't hear shit from you fucking bitches because you were scared because you were legitimately scared.

Yeah, you led this. Yeah. And you put a statue up. Thank you. Early money, early fucking money on smoke detectors, Germany and Florida, and Scientology. Not eight years ago, not 14 years ago, 25 years ago, in deep on all of them. But no, nobody cares. No. Nobody cares.

We care, Adam. All right. What did you say? Did you say United States? He went Germany. He said it just screams Germany. Oh, sorry. All right.

I'm going Florida. Oh, it's Germany. Oh. This is a European thing. You've won in convincing fashion, my friend. Yeah. That's good. Yeah.

Wonderful job. I was trained by the best. All right. You can go to AdamCarolla.com. There's live dates coming up. I think Sacramento and many other places as well. That's 17th and 18th. Fargo, the 30th.

Nashville right after Fargo, too. The same weekend, December 1st and 2nd. Oh, yeah. Fargo's on a Thursday. Oh, that's a run, man. And then Huntsville, Alabama on December 3rd. All right. So go to AdamCarolla.com for all the live shit. Drew?

November 6th, see you at the Chelsea Music Center under the Chelsea Market in New York City. It's me, Kat Timp and Jimmy Fela. Check it out. Part of the New York Comedy Festival. And then drdrew.tv and drdrew.com. What's up? Until next time, I'm Amcrow for Dr. Drew and Chris McSpadden saying

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