The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1787 Evangelizing Hysterics

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

Adam and Dr. Drew begin the week by discussing the recent passing of actor, Matthew Perry, Drew explains the stronghold of addiction, relapsing, and all the rumors & speculations surrounding the incident. Plus, Adam shares the recent developments on Spain's female soccer team kiss-celebration, and Scott Galloway has found his accountability. Please Support Our Sponsors: Shopify.com/adamanddrew Angi.com The Jordan Harbinger Show - Available everywhere you listen to podcasts

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The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the show. Dr. Drew's Port Fisher. What's going on there, Drewski? Fisherman, man. You know, I make little notes getting ready for this show, and I have so much I want to talk to you about today. It's like I don't know if we're going to get through it this week.

But I think we had to start with one thing that we did not address last week that we should just discuss quickly because I've gotten calls from far and wide on this one, which is the Matthew Perry situation. And there's some nuances to that that no one's talking about. I didn't want to talk about it with anyone because this is next Monday, right? My wife will kill me if I don't remember to say this tonight at the Chelsea Music Hall see me there at 8 o'clock because I did do one interview

where he agreed to promote that and then didn't of course in any event there's a lot of ink being spilled a lot of time being spent talking about how people love this guy. He was their, quote, friend from friends.

You know, they had this lovable character and people really feel this loss. And it's true. And he was a great guy and everyone loved him. And yes, yes, all yes, and talented and smart and a great tennis player and all these things. Doesn't mean he wasn't a drug addict. Drug addict affects all types. doesn't mean he wasn't a drug addict. Drug addict affects all types.

And frankly, the smarter and the sort of more creative and talented seems to – it's why I like working in recovery. I mean when they get through their addiction, they're just marvelous typically. And in their disease, they do terrible things oftentimes because they're in an illness. Their brain isn't working right. They're in an illness. Their brain isn't working right. They're in an altered state. Any event, we don't know. You guys have only been sober, I guess, like two years by the history I heard. And if you're in your 50s and you have a long history of opiate addiction

and you've only managed to put together two years, it's on. It's a high-risk situation. Because it's people that get their shit together. Usually, if they're relapsing from opiates, usually have long periods of sobriety in there somewhere and then kind of go out. This is somebody that's never put together long, long periods. He's been very invested in it. He's been helped other people, and he wants to remember for that, and he should be. But it's like opiate addicts that struggle, let's say, rarely get out of their 50s.

They rarely get to 60. It's just rare. Right. But I think the question is, did he relapse or did his heart just give out when he was in a jacuzzi? Right. So let's keep going down that path. So opioids, one of the great thing about opiates when they were invented is they don't harm the body in any way. They're harmless.

They become harmful if you take them intravenously. They can cause kidney failure and infections and infection of the heart. It's how you're doing it. You're giving it intravenously that they get into trouble. Orally, you can get into trouble as Matthew Perry did and Tom Arnold both did where your colon freezes because it causes such bad constipation. And then your colon ruptures. And so that happens. But that's when you're taking shit, tons of oral opiates.

But very few people can afford to do that. That's why most people go on to IV and fentanyl and other things that are much more powerful because it's just more cost effective. So I'm just going to, if I were a betting man, I'm going to say, I'd probably relapse for isomal opiates. He might have been on Suboxone, which is interesting, which somebody like that, I would say probably a good idea, at least a small amount of Suboxone. And we're hearing rumors that he got benzodiazepines, the Valium-like drugs, right? That with Suboxone can be very dangerous, very dangerous.

And you can stop breathing on any oral opiate with benzodiazepine. In fact, 96% of OxyContin deaths in one study always involved in benzodiazepine. So oral opiates don't make you stop breathing until you add the benzodiazepine. Now, here's the part that no one's talking about. So I'm going to just add a little intrigue into this whole thing. You mentioned his heart could stop, right, in the jacuzzi. You're hearing this out there. I think the average person thinks either he relapsed, but then they're kind of –

people are very defensive about that theme yeah which is weird i mean a chronic illness and yeah it is weird but they're they're defensive yeah they're the and so what we've you know society constructed a narrative where we went well this guy he put his body through so much hell, and then he did so much damage, and then he got sober, and he got healthy. It was only about 18 months, I think. Yeah. And then he went and played pickleball for two hours. Right.

And then he went and took a jacuzzi, and his heart gave up. Right. Doesn't happen like that. That's not how that works. Not with opiates. Not with opiates. Right. If he had cocaine, – did he smoke cigarettes?

I don't think he even smoked cigarettes, right? He was on the – he had the COPD whatever thing. Oh, he did? He had – that's what I heard. Oh, that changes my feeling about this. Yeah. So – I'm only going off of what Billy Bush said.

Okay. If he had COPD from smoking, those people do have heart disease. I can't believe that he wouldn't have been screened up the ass to screen for that. You know what I mean? He's a guy with resources and he's well known and a doctor would at least do a

frickin' calcium score on the guy as well as put him on a treadmill every year, for God's sakes. Right. Okay, so there's that so that's that's heads in that direction adam it actually goes in that direction a little bit what direction the heart the heart the given way but here's another let me let me throw another little wrinkle in this thing big vaccine boost advocate multiple boosters he's a little old for the myocarditis but we now know the myocarditis is, I would call it uncommon, and it often, more than 50% of the time, if it happens, has chronic effects on the heart.

Those guys could drop dead suddenly easily, easily. And something like pickleball on a jacuzzi would be a good recipe for that kind of cardiac problem. Yeah. So interesting, right? Well, that's what I'm saying. We'll find out. Well, they deferred.

We're not going to find out. Well, they, right. Yeah. They deferred. The coroner deferred. I'm guessing they're going to do an autopsy. And that will tell. That will tell.

Now, whether or not they'll tell us, there's a whole other – That's the part I'm losing a little faith in. Yeah. So there's my thoughts, and you can't find that anywhere but here. I'm not giving that out anywhere. I'm tired. I'm sort of weirdly tired of going on people's news programs and giving them content and talking about stupid shit for 20 seconds and

then being assailed as somebody who's taking advantage of people who died. It's like, fuck that. Who does? Is that what's happening? That's what I've historically, if I go out, historically I've gone out to try to educate about this. These are opportunities in my mind to educate about addiction. But I feel like mission accomplished, you know, like people just kind of get it now.

Even though they're defensive and weird about it, they get this, you know, okay, you get it. Even though they've forgotten in this state that opiate addiction is a progressive illness that ends in death, I think most people kind of get that with all the deaths going on now. So I don't feel the same obligation to go out there and talk about it. And when I do, I just feel like, blech, blech, blech. Yeah. All right, so I got stuff to talk about.

All right, there, I'm going to do a diatribe. No, that was good. All right. I've got a lot of stuff to get into. I keep sort of circling back to this these same thoughts um which is um i was i don't think i was looking at twitter last night but um that uh i i'll just keep calling him the spanish women's soccer coach but it wasn't the spanish women's soccer coach yes the guy that kissed the soccer player yes yes uh he now has a three-year suspension oh my god women's soccer holy shit and so here's how i always kind of come down on on this stuff first off i don't know what has happened to people and their ability to sort of morally sort.

They can't sort. You know what I mean? Everything's hysterics. It's all hysterical. Pearl clutching on the left. It was always the right that did the pearl clutching. Right. You can watch the video of the celebration.

There's nothing. It's all context. It's all context. There's hugging and kissing and grabbing and lifting and stuff. And then he gives a big celebratory kiss. And he gives a kiss that you would give to a man, actually, if they just won the Indy 500 or something like that. When a straight man, like the guy who owns the Indy team, kisses the driver, they don't lean forward and smooch them. They grab them and they go, it's almost a masculine.

It's a consumption. Well, it's the difference between an intimate kiss and a celebration. Yes. Because you do this gesture. Yeah. You would never kiss your grandchild that way. You know, he just like smooched him. You know, you would grab him and go, oh, my grandson.

He's back from the army. You know, I love him so much. There's nothing but context. Yeah. And then everyone just kind of went nuts. the army you know i love him so much you know there's nothing but context yeah and uh then everyone just kind of went nuts and but nobody really cared but people the the thing that i keep kind of thinking about is nobody really cares i mean this guy did nothing it was nothing sexual he's never hit on anybody

on the team. There's just nothing. There just isn't anything. And people don't care because why would you care? Why would you care that a female soccer team won the World Cup in Spain, of all places, and they celebrated in a way. You would just have no thoughts about it. You just you can't actually care. Most people who might weigh in on this would care much more about where they were eating lunch than than that actual event. And that would be sort of appropriate.

Of course, it'd be appropriate because there's nothing I can do about the Spanish celebration. It's kind of between them. It doesn't involve me or my family or anybody I know. I mean, it's literally a world away. So is this social media created? Is it hysteria that people get swept into hysteria so readily? or get swept into hysteria so readily? It's a kind of a thing that we experienced throughout COVID, and then we experienced it with like George Floyd and stuff like that. And then we're sort of experiencing it with Israel and Gaza now and that kind of stuff. And then once we create something.

So Israel and Palestine is something. This soccer kiss is nothing. But we become sort of equally as invested. Which is bizarre. Right. And I keep yelling at everyone, it's nothing. Who cares? Why are you even talking about it?

And they become sort of equally invested in literally a war where civilians are being killed and somebody celebrating after a soccer win. That's hysteric. So they get sort of in. Yeah. And then once they get in, it creates energy. And then once there's energy, then there's action. So now the guy's suspended for three years because there was energy and we need action, but nothing ever happened. Right.

And that's the part where we're teetering. Now, that makes it a little scary. Teetering. We're over. We're deep in it. We're over the cliff. And it's the same, Adam, the letter writers are in control. Mm-hmm.

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that grow, grow with Shopify. Right, Emmy? That's right. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at Shopify.com slash Adam and Drew. That's all lowercase. Go to Shopify.com slash Adam and Drew now to grow your business, no matter what stage you're in. Shopify.com slash Adam and Drew. Yeah, so I'm very fascinated in people who are fascinated with what I can conclude is nothing. Well, it has many variations on a theme. First of all, it's all the letter writers that we used to be astonished that businesses would listen to letter writers. And again, across our career, that mostly came from the right.

Religious people. Yeah. And that was odd to us the companies would pay any fucking attention to that yes now they have these mobs full full-on mobs they can tap right into on x or whatever and that is weird that they allow mobs to dictate anything and it's and it's dangerous when you do that. Well, what happens is you get in a room with the guys that are going to enforce the rules, and you go, the soccer thing was nothing.

And they go, yeah, it was nothing, but now we have to do something. And I'm like, no, you don't. Let me show you. You don't because it was nothing. I mean, it was the same thing with the guy who hosted The Bachelor. Well, I want to talk about Russell Brand in a second. There's another interesting kind of story in there. Right.

But I want to give you an example of how fast a company can adjust course and revise stuff rather than continue down some scary path. Bud Light has all that reaction to Dylan Mulvaney. So what do they do? They don't double down on that, or they almost double down, but they don't hide. They don't arrest people. They go, oh, we're going to sponsor WWE now. UFC.

UFC or something. Yeah. And off we go. Good. Okay, fine. It's just course. It's all good. You're a company. It's just or something. Yeah. And off we go. Good. Okay, fine. It's just course. It's all good. You're a company. It's just course. Do your business. You don't have to harm the person

who's at this... Imagine if they'd gone after Dylan Mulvaney for being the source of all the negativity. Oh, you mean Budweiser? Yeah. Yeah. What if they, you know, canceled her? Right. They didn't. They just changed course. Good.

Fine. Change course. Make a new policy for the Spanish soccer team. Don't kiss the players on the mouth. Fine. Okay. You want to do that? Fine.

You're a soccer team. But have to destroy the person at the other end. That's the new thing. And that's the part that is so fucking dangerous. It's dangerous. So now Russell Brand, I think I'm going to be on his show like this week or something. And he's been accused of something during something. Again, drug addict, sex addict.

I'm sure he behaved in awful ways. Guess what? Drug addicts make amends. They make these things. All drug addicts have amends to make. They're changed in their recovery. If every drug addict that did something awful in their disease was canceled for something they did in their disease, well, there's no hope for them then. They couldn't function in the world, period.

So you have to go, okay, the context, again, context. And then the other thing is the kind of interesting part to me is that we all forget the innocent until proven guilty. That doesn't exist in this country anymore. Well. I don't know. Give her. Yes. We'll hear her.

Let's accept her. She made an accusation. Cool. I'm not going to question your accusation. Let's hear it in court. Let's hear it for real. Yeah. Well, we have believe all women, which. I understand. I'll believe her. See it in court. It's not for real yeah well we we have believe all women which i understand a

believer see it in court it's not true no belief means believe pre-court that's that's the problem we'll do the court in our head that's the part they have to undo yeah it done it it fucks their whole me too thing up it makes it all a hysteria again yes and. And that's when people start pushing back. No, they always do it. They can't not do it. Black Lives Matter. You know, they always do it. It's the weirdest business model. You know, it's like Bud Light.

You know, if I was in that boardroom and they were talking about getting Dylan Mulvaney, I would have went, have you seen who consumes our products? It's terrible. Nobody looks like this. room and they were talking about getting Dylan Mulvaney, I would have went, have you seen who consumes our products? It's terrible. Nobody looks like this or they don't know who this person is. Yeah, but they wanted to expand their market.

No, I get it. Change their image. No, I get it. But I would have said to BLM, their Chicago chapter, we're going to just take a we're going to take the flag of Gaza and we'll put it over a kite. And we'll say we stand with Palestine. And it's like I would have went, don't don't do it. You're going to lose money. You just it's not good for your brand.

And they'd go, but that's the way we feel. And I'd go, that's fine. But we're trying to get money off the Jews in the United States. Why are you pissing them off? They stand with you for some fucking reason. I have no idea because you don't seem to be fans. Well, OK, you just fucked it up. You had all these allies on all these college campuses and all these Jewish professors and all the probably liars in Hollywood

who don't really care about you, but they're Jewish. And you could get their money. Now they're not doing it. Just because you put out a tweet. But don't do it. But that's the way we feel. Yeah, I know. You don't like these people.

But if you tell everyone that, then they're not going to cut you a check. I mean, think about what BLM did to their business model. I mean, they had to. They did the same thing PETA does. They do the same thing. Oh, God. Whatever society, you know, the National Geographic Outward Bound Society, where they start at some point they call oak trees racist or something,

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Again, that is Angie, A-N-G-I.com. Ah, this thought. Yeah. So I have been developing this concern about evangelizing leaders or evangelizing experts. So the opiate crisis happened because we had evangelizing doctors in my profession. The COVID catastrophe happened because Deborah Birx was an evangelist for lockdowns. Mm-hmm. Is it the same?

I was going to equate evangelizing with something else. I lost my fucking train of thought. God damn it. God damn it. What a waste. I know what it was. Is evangelizing and hysteria, are they linked? Are they the same?

Well. Is that the thing we're into now is evangelist and hysterics? Oh, yeah. Which is kind of been kind of pseudo religious, you know, Catholicism versus dealing with right now in this time is religion, you know, in the case of Islam doing a lot of damage to the Jews and too much. And then here we have no religion and whack a doodle. So fucking believe anything. And we got to meet in the middle. You know, there's like too much or too little.

They both end up in the same place which is wrong you know what i mean yes so you end up hurting people either way yeah you need you need a certain amount of you know i i don't know i i know it's probably many things are that way you need kind of a balance in in there you know what i mean like even a relationship you know you need certain amount of um clinginess and and and a certain amount of reliance you know but too much it you smother the person but then too far you become distant you know it's a kind of an independence mixed with it coming together you know it's a it's a kind of a balance. And the balance is getting cattywampus on us. Yeah. So evangelists and hysterics, that's an interesting thing to me because they're

kind of both hysterics. When you go and you campaign for a point of view, campaign for a point of view. That's kind of – it takes a certain kind of thing going on in your head. It's one thing to give an argument or to sort of persuasion or to sort of be interested in helping people understand things from a certain point of view, but to go out and proselytize anything. Yeah, well, maybe Emmy can look for a tweet, an ex that I liked. I think it was Scott Gottlieb, who's a decent guy who's been on this show. He was on Bill Maher this week.

That was the thing. Yeah. And first off, everyone with their revisionist history bullshit, you know, may have been wrong, but no harm, no foul. That's what he said. Right, trying to forgive and and forget show a little grace that's what scott wants yeah but there's an interesting part if you watch that clip which uh he said he's a thoughtful guy yeah nice guy and but i i appreciate his honesty i do too i wish he'd go a little little bit further but okay i'll take it well everyone is minimizing what we did to our society. They're also minimizing what they did to people who objected or who raised their hand.

That's the part that I have a problem with. Destroying high quality people's career. But in his own speech, or his little clip. And by the way, we still don't know the full extent of what they did to people. Right. There's more. Well, here's what happens. It gets a little worse every day.

And whatever Fauci was up to gets a little worse every day to vis-a-vis China and gain of function and stuff like that. Vaccine problems. Right. Right. All of problems. Right, right. All of it. And they do a lot of we didn't know. You know what I mean? Yeah. We were just working with the science we had.

No, you were working with the science you wanted and rejecting the other science that competed with what you wanted to do. Yes. You wanted to close down schools. There were science that said that's a good idea. And then there were other science that said it was a bad idea. But you rejected those. You silenced it. You silenced.

You silenced scientific discourse, which is the nature of science. And they do all this, by the way, they do all this like he's looking at Cuomo going, we didn't know anything, right? He's like, we didn't know anything. Okay. Well, then why didn't you tell us? Then shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Then tell us we didn't know anything, right? He's like, we didn't know anything. Okay. Well, then why didn't you tell us? Then shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.

Then tell us you don't know anything. This was the thing I said. I brought it up on the show before. It's the lamest excuse. It's, by the way, it's like, I'm the captain of a ship. Yeah, what'd you do? I just ran it into the Rock of Gibraltar. Why?

I don't know how to steer a ship. Give me a break. I didn't know the Rock was there. No, no. You said you were the captain, and you started making a bunch of policies. Right. So what do you mean you didn't know? I would have accepted you don't know The Rock was there. No, no. You said you were the captain, and you start making a bunch of policies. So what do you mean you didn't know? I would have accepted you don't know anything, but that's not what you said.

No. The science is incomplete. Like, oh, God. Questioning me is questioning the science. Right. Yeah, questioning science itself. Yeah, maybe we can find that clip. Oh, hold on a second.

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For more on how Bill Browder continues to fight for change while being a thorn in the side of Vladimir Putin, check out episode three, which is one of the most popular episodes of The Jordan Harbinger Show. All right. Here it is. Oh, sorry. Scott Galloway. I said Gatley. Sorry. Yeah. Well, I was on the board of my kid's school during covid. I wanted a harsher lockdown policy. And in retrospect, I was wrong. The damage to kids of keeping them out of school longer was greater than the risk. But here's the bottom line. Myself, our great people, the CDC, I'd like to thank the governor. We were all operating with imperfect information and we were doing our best. It's fun.

So let's learn from it. Let's learn from it. Let's learn from it. Let's learn from it. Let's learn from it. Let's hold each other accountable. But let's bring a little bit of grace and forgiveness. Hold on. Are we holding people accountable or not? Yeah.

I agree. Let's hold people accountable. Yes. And let's forgive them? Which is it? That's his verse. He's being held accountable now by saying publicly he was wrong. That's holding accountable in his mind.

Not in our mind. Someone's going to have to cut a check. Tinhorn Flats is up the street. It's family-owned business. It's been there for 50 years. I went to high school with the family. They're gone. So who do we hold accountable for that?

Right. the family, they're gone. So who do we hold accountable for that? Or do you just apologize to the people who ran a family business for 50 years and now there's a chain link fence around it? How does that work? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I agree. I agree with him. Hold them accountable. Well, the interesting thing is I suppose it's going to be the courts that do it. Yes.

It's going to be the courts. And so Mr. Garagos has to step, get very busy. Yes. It's an interesting time. I mean, you know, we've got Aaron Cariotti out there. Have you ever interviewed Aaron? Oh, my God. I can't believe you haven't talked to him.

I don't think so. Oh, my God. Why? You got to get Chris to book him. Cariotti. K-H-E-R-A. K-H-E-R-I, I think is Kheriadi. He is a psychiatrist.

We'll have to finish, flush this out the next show, but here's his deal. Psychiatrist at University of California, Irvine. A friend of my son's is a psychiatry resident. And early in the pandemic, this resident said to me, he goes, hey, you might want to check this guy out. He's a solid dude. He's an interesting psychiatrist, smart guy. So I checked him out right as he was getting fired, okay? Getting fired because he was a decorated professional, decorated both as a psychiatrist and as a teacher of medicine and psychiatry for decades.

He was the head of the bioethics department at UC Irvine. And there he is. And he raised his hand and said, listen, I've told you as the chairman here that there will come a time when you have to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. The time has come for me because you don't have the criteria scientifically necessary to mandate vaccines in all students, that is bioethically a transgression. Immediately put on leave and then fired.

And he is one of the— It does. By the way, the good news, I mean, for me— They're never—they're so consistent. Is that what you like? No. I know what you want and who you are now. Now, yeah.

I know who the governor of California and the mayor. And I know who these people are now. They fucking want control. And they're not interested in some sort of negotiation for it or some sort of discussion or debate. They want full control. And if you disagree with them, they would like you destroyed. I now know that. They want full control. At all times. And if you disagree with them, they would like you destroyed. Yep.

I now know that. Yep. And I got a glimpse into who Ron DeSantis is as well. And I would feel much more comfortable under his guiding hand than I would under. But listen, you say whatever you want about Gavin Newsom, but you can't say he doesn't want full control hard all the time. He shut beaches and schools. I would say I would go one step further. He seemed to like it.

That was the part that astonished me. Well, he was a look. He certainly wasn't averse to it. He was a general without a war. And this was his war. And he got to put his uniform on and go to war with his citizens but with the beach with basketball hoops and schools but he went to war i mean yes he he seemed energized yes which should scare people scare the shit out of people because that right but not my mom she she likes it and and he's talking about the transgender

community so and biden was similarly sort of enthusiastic about this stuff and i find well biden doesn't biden doesn't know what's going on he had election they needed to win an election and then then they didn't have but let me finish with carioti so he is now one of the lead defendants in uh biden versus missouri that is going to the supreme Court. So we will have, and by the way, all the courts thus far have upheld their concerns about the overreach of government. Yes. All right. I'm going to be in Sacramento at the Punchline November 17th and 18th, four shows. Think of California?

Maybe say hi to our governor up there. Invite him to your show. Just have that. I'm going to hate the mansion. Fargo Theater, by the way. North Dakota. Doing that November 30th. Just go to amcrow.com for all the live shows.

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