The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1794 Dingbat Constituency

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

Today, Dr. Drew opens up on how messed up medicine can be, his work with The Wellness Company, and Adam's perplexed by prescriptions. Plus, the enormous hobo fire and the legend of Rodney Bingenheimer. Please Support Our Sponsors: TryMiracle.com/ADS and use promo code: ADS BlindsGalore.com, let them know Adam and Dr. Drew sent you!

This is Below Deck's Captain Lee. Listen to my new podcast, Salty, with Captain Lee. Um, don't you mean our podcast? Uh, yeah, I guess I do. Anyhow, listen to Salty with Captain Lee, co-hosted by my assistant, Sam. And we will be talking about the latest pop culture news and all the gossip every week. So does this mean we have to talk by ourselves, about ourselves, or can at least have some guests on? I don't know, I find myself pretty interesting. But yeah, we can have some guests on,

some of our reality TV friends, and some stars. Works for me. Listen to Salty now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, it all got together get it on fertilize yeah what's going on fertilize uh so last show i promised i would talk about something this show about how fucked up medicine is and let me just frame it this way i've talked a little

bit about it but not maybe not in a comprehensive way, and that is that I have always said that your best unit, your best structure in medicine, in helping patients, delivery of medical care, is a well-informed, motivated patient and a caring, well-trained physician.

That is your optimum unit. I'll even expand it to a well-trained clinical caretaker. It can be psychologists, MFTs, it can be nurse practitioners. But anything you do to that system, give it guidelines, give it structure, give it insurance resources that have to make decisions on whether it's okay to treat them. State regulate. Anything you put on top of that, you are fucking it up. You are making it less effective, less efficient, more cumbersome, more costly. And for my entire career, I mean, think of the – I was fighting against the opioid thing.

I was fighting against the Women's Health Initiative. I was fighting for morning after contraception. I mean, I've just been fighting the system the whole way. And I realized what COVID showed me, the fact that so many physicians are now employees, that we have lost. It's over. It's just done. We've got to run with the flag. The physician caretaker part is not autonomous. That's how it's just done it's it's we got to run up the flag the physician caretaker

part is not autonomous that's how it's going to be and there's nothing we can do to really restore that autonomy again really in a comprehensive way so i've been of the opinion that we have to put more in the hands of i'm developing this idea and i've been working with this thing called the wellness company to do this to put more in the hands of patients. Like, there's no reason you shouldn't have at your disposal antibiotics and things when you travel. Why do you have to go see a doctor to get that? If somebody could do a little telehealth visit with you or even give you a handbook on how to use these things, don't you think patients should have more freedom of access to – not over the counter so much as just some things that just – certainly you shouldn't have

to go to the emergency room or urgent care for. That is just too expensive. Well, listen. We're weird. I don't get – like I remember when my – I was going to say roommate, but we just slept in the same bed in the garage at my dad's house. You had somebody else in there in that garage? For a while.

Who was that? It was Chris. Oh, wow. And he would just, I don't even know why. I think he got thrown out of his house or something. Was he using that or is he? Probably. Wow.

But he ended up coming out with a case of the crabs. Ah. And I didn't have a doctor. He didn't have a doctor. And he didn't have crabs. And I didn't have a doctor. He didn't have a doctor. And he didn't have money. And I didn't have money. And would you even know how to navigate the system? Well, we know there was something like some medication,

crab shampoo or something called RID or something. But it was a prescription. Yeah. And I remember going, why? Why? Why? Why prescription? Like you can buy booze and bullets and crossbows at the... What is this crab shampoo? Why is it a prescription? And it was a prescription. And because it was a prescription, we never got it because I don't have a doctor. He doesn't have a doctor he doesn't have a doctor could you afford a visit some new patient visit no we couldn't afford any of it we could go

we could go to the save on probably three bucks yeah we could go to the we could go to the oh my god save on on ventura boulevard and pay three RID shampoo, but we couldn't do the evaluation. I'm going to show you how effective branding is. Save on drugstores. Save on drugstores. Boom, boom. Save on. How ridiculous is that?

Yeah. So I remember at the time just going, I don't get it. I get pain pills. Why is shampoo to get rid of pubic cramps? So you're making my point. And then thus, we will not – we're not buying it. We don't have a doctor. Think about – so from my perspective, it gets more complicated.

So every time a young man comes into a doctor with pain when he pees, okay, he's going to get one gram of azithromycin. They're going to do a chlamydia test. They're still going to give him the azithromycin. The azithromycin will cover the chlamydia and cover everything else. Why not just fucking give the guy the azithromycin? Yeah. Why don't we do that? And by the way the

girlfriend too give them both they should have access to that by the way new information everybody doxycycline may be preventative every day if you take it before new sexual contact could protect against stis why don't they have that let me tell you how well first off i'll tell you i don't know about every city but la um if you are doing something with steel as i did when i built the super garage up in the hills years ago i had a steel superstructure um you must hire and they have things called deputy inspectors now. Now they have inspectors from the city, and they come out and inspect. But there's many jobs that now require a deputy inspector. And the deputy inspector, you pay out of your pocket.

And the deputy inspector watches the guy who's doing the welds on the steel from his car, by the way, while he's eating. And he watches it. And by the way, he shows up and he watches him weld for like 45 minutes and then he leaves. Now, he's supposed to watch him do all the welds, but he's getting paid 400 bucks, whether he's there for eight hours or one hour. He's getting paid 400 bucks, whether he's there for eight hours or one hour. And as the person who's paying him, you really don't care. You're paying for his certificate, not for how many hours he was there. Yeah. But you also need someone to do a sonogram on the welds.

So they literally then I'm saying sonogram. I don't know if that's technically right, but here's the point. When the welding is done, then you pay another guy and he comes in and he, you know, puts a magnetic charge or something on the welds and literally scans all the welds to make sure they're complete or you know successful then you get the deputy inspector stuff you get the sonograms guy stuff then you get the city inspector who gets all this guy's weld and then he signs off now i was saying why do i need a deputy inspector why do i have to pay a deputy inspector to watch a guy weld from his truck while he's eating if I then have the sonogram guy come in and inspect all the welds?

Why one or the other, but what do we need the guy watching weld for if we then hook it up to a sonogram and prove that it's a clean weld? It's like, that's how we roll. So that's why it's not affordable right in for most people in los angeles and why with health care by the way all of that just gets passed on if that's an apartment building it just gets passed on and so when we want to make low-cost units for the homeless it's 800 grand a unit for 600 square feet and that's what we don't understand and everyone always looks at me like well so what's wrong with them and so what's wrong is it just passes all the

cost along that and why young people in california feel like they can't survive all that regulation all that encumbrance of system whether it's health care or building it goes if they feel it it comes down to them and i again i think covid exposed some opportunities and so i'm gonna go at it and it does feel very you know what's interesting about it it feels similar to my impulse in doing love line back in 1984 it was like hey they need this i'm gonna go do it uh this is an important thing i don't know if it's people are push back, but I think we need this. I just watched the first part of the K-Rock doc I'm doing yesterday. It's crazy.

I can tell you about that. They found the clip with you and Christine Anderson. Or Christine Anderson. Yeah, her. Yeah, I recognize her. You're going to love her. She recognize her you're gonna love her she was great to talk never german yeah she's a german a european parliament member yeah and uh listen listen to her words she's great she reminds me of uh baloney baloney what her name is maloney

and italy go ahead as i said before in the entire history of mankind, there has never been a political elite concerned about the well-being of regular people. And it isn't any different now. Why should it stop giving them the benefit of the doubt? Because I can tell you, you cannot comply your way out of a tyranny. It is impossible. Trying to do so, you will only feed a gigantic alligator in the hopes of being eaten last. But guess what?

Your turn will come, and then you will be the one swallowed up. I also have to ask the people, end your silence. Speak up. For God's sake, stop complying. Start rebelling. They're out to get you if you do not resist. Anyway, she gets more strident at the end. The end was actually what I was looking for.

She goes, we are coming for you. We are gathering. We are getting forced. We are coming. Now, when I talked to her, she immediately went to history and went, look. She goes, in Germany, they should understand this is 1930. And they have great anxiety about that. And they don't seem to understand that it's the same.

Then she went to France, and she goes, well, there, they have 1790. They're always thinking about 1790. And they should see this coming as well, except she goes, they're a little special case, which for reasons I thought was kind of interesting. But it just, you know, at least the Europeans recall history. They're able to bring it up even though they sort of ignore it and they're not sort of embracing it the way they should. They at least understand it's there and what that means when she says that.

I don't think here we even know what it means. Think of history. it means. Think of history. Well, we, I mean, we sort of were out of problems, real problems. And then we got into sort of the manufacturing of problems. And then we got into the chick think circle talk. And that's kind of what we're, you know, what we're in right now. See if we can break out of it, you know, or just have some guy. And by the way, that's a woman who thinks like a dude that we just saw. Yeah. And we have a governor in California that thinks like a chick, you know.

Everyone hates, they think it's pejorative. It's not. It's women think like a certain way, men think another way. And they both, that's a pejorative. It's not. Women think like a certain way. Men think another way. And they both – that's why couples raise kids. That's why it works. I mean there's a different set of priorities, different sets of sort of skills and instincts and things like that. And one is better for governing.

And that's the dude thing. And it can be done by a woman or a man. That's right. Yeah. But it's a thinking that way. Yeah. I keep telling you, you need a PR agent for that statement. You need to come up with a different term.

Well, you figure it out. I got chick think and dude think, and dude think is better for governing. Now, California and L.A. is all chick thinks, and that's why it's turning into a piece of shit. Florida is dude run. You're really talking about logic, linear thought versus holistic emotional thought. And unfortunately, if you say that, people may not understand. Yeah, when you talk to, God, what is the hippy dippy chick that always runs for president?

Oh, Marianne Williamson. She's come on the show. Yeah. She's a fucking idiot. She doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. You don't mean that literally. No, I do. But women love her, but she doesn't know what she's talking about.

She doesn't say anything. She's smart, but she doesn't say anything. Oh, okay. Or whatever. She's smart, but she doesn't say anything. Oh, okay. Or whatever. She's smart. Yeah. Your car's got 1,000 horsepower, but it's up on cinder blocks. Yeah.

So good. Yeah. Well, I'm saying your car's useless, and then you're going, how dare you? That car's got 1,000 horsepower. It still has horsepower. It's got horsepower. Yeah, it's up on cinder blocks. Yeah, but it's got 1,000 horsepower.

Okay. All right. So it's got 1,000 horsepower, but it's not going anywhere. Yeah. That's what she is. And she's not smart because I've interviewed her. She just isn't. But she captivates dingbats, which is troublesome.

It's troublesome. Male and female dingbats. Yeah. I think mostly female dingbats, but she captivates the dingbat audience. The dingbat world. She has the dingbat constituents. It's awesome. And by the way, she and the dingbats thinks if someone like DeSantis gets in charge, now

we're in trouble. They don't realize that we're in trouble with you in charge because your policies are horrible, even though you want to give everyone a hug. Yeah, yeah. That's what they don't. Yeah, yeah. The scary part is California, Los Angeles is falling apart because of your loving policy. You see what I'm saying?

And the harsh policies that you think are harsh or racist or discriminatory or whatever. I saw it with our last mayor, man. I saw it. That's where I learned it. It was harsh. All right. Let me tell you about what was harsh. Dealing with his little press conferences every night.

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dr drew sent you that's blinds galore.com all right what else you've got true well i was we were talking about homeless on monday and one of the things we didn't have time to talk about was here in Los Angeles, we had a huge fire under a freeway. Such an enormous fire that it actually destroyed potentially, I don't know, I haven't heard the update yet, but it may have destroyed the actual steel infrastructure of the freeway. Not any freeway. The busiest freeway in the world. Yeah, you say steel infrastructure. Well, I imagine, I don't know what I'm talking about. It may have cracked the concrete, may have melted the rebar, right?

Isn't that sort of? Yeah, I think I'm not an expert in this field, but when you superheat the concrete, I think it can be deemed useless after that. You might have to take out a lot of it. Also, I always think about it, too. Like we in L.A., you know, we're constantly talking about switching over to electric lawnmowers and, you know, shit like that. Like we do that stuff all the time, you time, that we need electric this and electric that because of the carbon and whatever's emitted.

And then we have one huge fucking fire with bottles burning and plastic burning and pallets burning and plastic tarps burning and everything. And it's like, what did we just put in the atmosphere? plastic tarps burning and everything. And it's like, what did we just put in the atmosphere? Yeah. With just a billion pollutants and a million metric tons of carbon. And then we're going to go argue over my leaf blower. That's how we roll. Yes. You know.

It's the plastic straws. Guess who thinks that, White Joe? The holistic emotional thinkers. That's right. That's what that is. Oh, my God. Yeah. thinkers that's right that's what that is oh my god yeah well anyway i was watching that live when the news caught it and uh i just went oh they're they're they're actively avoiding describing what this is that they were actively going around describing this homeless encampment on fire.

First of all, I dare you to find a free overpass in Los Angeles that's not an encampment, number one. So you're just playing the odds. That's the case. And then number two, you could see the tents going up. You could see everything. And to this day, no one has brought that up. No, we – the news – by the way, I don't know what the fuck happened to the news. I don't know if it's a homeless encampment and the homeless are the fire, then that's it.

That doesn't you report anything. Yeah, you just you just report it like they do. They're so crazy now. Like if some 69 year old Jewish guy in Orange County was killed when they clashed with the Palestinian protesters. Westlake. Westlake, sorry. And the news was like, CNN was like, a Jewish man died after he fell. You know what I mean?

It's like, yeah, but first somebody bonked him on the head. It gets better. It's a Palestinian professor at a local college. So he was the guy that bonked the guy oh is that is that what that well so they don't give you any update we don't know what's going they don't give you anything it's just he's dead now yeah but but how did he die because he got assaulted and then he fell and he hit his head by a Palestinian CNN. That's what happened. But you guys don't have that info? It's the new world order of news, and it's bizarre.

It's bizarre. And they leave out all sorts of stuff, and they dance around other stuff. But here's what I'm saying why is it so consistent like I know where you guys are going to land in terms of Hunter Biden's laptop

you're going to lie about that but you have they go one direction I know but what's your dog in the fight with for homeless or the Palestinians and the Jews why are those... CNN, why are you doing the bidding of Palestinian rioters in the streets of the

United States? Why are you doing the bidding of the homeless in campus? Why are you doing the bidding of the transgender person who shot up the Christian school? Why did you decide that you needed to protect that?

Why are you on the side of the guys, the criminals who attacked Kyle Rittenhouse instead of the 16-year-old who defended himself? Who decided? First off, why are you wrong about everything? But also, why are you immediately taking the side of? It's Rolling Stone. Because we take the side of the oppressed, period, or the colonized at all times. I guess.

That's it. I guess. It's just whatever the opposite of a sane person would be, that's the side you take. Well, it's the opposite of reporting the facts because you are taking – look, just be just as distorted if they took the position of the oppressor. Right. I'm not saying we're not. You're not certainly not saying they should do that. Especially when you really think that every single prophylactic or cure for COVID that was not big pharma sort of approved or created was summarily attacked by every prominent news organization immediately based on no evidence. Somebody really has to kind of go, well, that seems curious, at least curious, if not criminal. All right.

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You kind of wonder how everything worked and how it worked its way out. The whole sort of Rodney Bingenheimer thing is really still sort of beyond. Have you seen his documentary? Yeah. Mayor of the Sunset Strip, I think it was. Yeah, I saw it. It's great. Kind of heartbreaking.

But it's an – okay, a couple things. One is I don't know why I've never been compelled to do this, but there's lots of footage. First off, there's lots of footage. Sure. Which is interesting because it's radio. I don't think there'd be that much footage, but there is lots of footage. And there's lots of footage of people kind of poor man and Jed the Fish and Sluggo and people like that just kind of go like, whoa. You know, and I was like, I of going like, whoa, you know?

And I was like, I was always like, why is that a thing? Right. I never thought it was funny. I've never done it. I've never, I'm a comedian.

How come I'm not doing weird faces all the time? And it was a thing like in the eighties, like they put a camera in your face and they, everyone just, there's thousands of hours of footage of those guys just going – It's like screaming at the camera, which is – So what do we think? It's an impulse.

Let's try to – because there was – I remember there was a lot of – that women picked this up at first, particularly super attractive woman where they, when the camera came at them, they'd stick the tongue out of the side of their mouth or, or stick their tongue out or something. Yeah. Kind of started there. And it also was a lot of the exuberance of that time. Like early eighties, there was a lot of it's time to party.

Yes. Yeah. There's a lot of that stuff. Cause we were coming out of the seventies. So, and somebody must've reinforced that in some way, right? I guess they just kept getting more well-known in Los Angeles or something. I don't know.

I don't know either. It was very fascinating. You were in it, obviously. I hadn't really showed up at the scene yet. at the scene yet but um but rodney bingenheimer you know he's this diminutive little guy here's what i want to say he's this little guy um kind of strange uh not not going to talk anyone's pants off or anything you know it It's not really a talker. No. Looked a little strange.

And as it was mentioned in the doc, like, kind of, I think he came to California and his mom was overbearing or whatever. And he wanted to get into show business. No, his mom was nuts. Yeah, yeah. He wanted to get into show business, whatever. He's the most unlikely person to get into show business ever. But in the doc, it was like he came here to California, and a year later he was living with Sonny and Cher.

And the next thing you know, you're just putting up pictures of him, and David Bowie's got his arm around him. He's Chauncey Gardner. Mick Jagger's got his arm around him. He's Chauncey Gardner. Mick Jagger's got his arm around him. And every single major player in the rock realm, the megastars of rock, are just hobnobbing with him. And he's not even saying anything. And he would sit at Denny's on Tuesday nights in Hollywood. And next thing you know, all these bands are bringing him in tapes and doing all this stuff.

And he's Chauncey Gardner. It's a movie called Being There where this guy just sort of shows up and wanders through life. But I don't think Rodney wanted to be in show business. He wanted to be in the movie, like not performing, but actually in that fantasy world. He actually wanted to be in the fantasy world of the film. Yes. And his mom dropped – she was like really not well – dropped him off for his first break. She just dropped him off.

He was like 11 or something at Connie Stevens' house. Just go – he knocks on Connie Stevens' door.. Just go, go. He knocks on the door. I have nowhere to go. Can you help me? He ends up running a club that is the most every, he has like David Lee Roth showing up and begging him to listen to his music and stuff. It's insane.

A Mick, you know, David, David Bowie and everybody is showing up and like kissing his ass at this miniature little club yeah and using them as a porthole to get their music played on k-rock the bangles the go-go's like every girl band showing up suzanna hoff at the there was this stairway and back door did you ever go to the old station? no but I've seen that movie

and I remember Susanna Hoff's back there going would you please show this to Rodney and she was back there with the bangles and she told me her dad's a psychoanalyst she told me the whole story and I was like yeah I'll give him the record isn't that funny but that was when he was on the radio

was he even on the radio i mean was he even on the radio when he had the club no yeah it just he became a cultural leader somehow like he was a cultural thought leader in in a in a sense right how how maybe the record producers sort of would go to him to measure you know what's coming you know. You know what I mean? All I'm saying is, is if you want to do something, there is no excuse. He wanted to do show business and rock and roll. And the next thing you know, he's just surrounded by the biggest A-list rock and roll gods in the business. Just hanging out at his club. It's crazy.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. Jesus Christ. It's like, just keep looking at him. Like, you know, everyone else, you kind of went, well, that guy's a good talker. That guy's a good business guy. Or that guy's sort of a flim-flam guy.

But he gets it done. You know, he promotes concerts or something. But then you see Rodney show up. He's like, hi. that's double Godhead. And that's it. Like you just go, what is this guy doing? What is he doing? Well, what he's doing is enough.

It's enough to do what he did. You can find a picture of Rodney Bingenheimer with every major rock god on the planet. Yeah. Particularly, I mean, of that. Jimi Hendrix. Yeah. Literally, and broke the biggest bands.

But he knew to go get pictures with everybody. He did. Again, that was part of being in the film, in the scene. He didn't want to play the instrument. He wanted to be in that fantasy world. Yeah. And so there you are. All right.

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