The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1809 Factor in Circumstances

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

Today, Dr. Drew kicks off the show by reviewing the Matthew Perry autopsy report, he explains Ketamine, and shares his own opinion on what may have happened. Plus, Adam tries to dissects promptness, factoring in context, and Dr. Drew explains cognitive brainwashing. Please Support Our Sponsor: The Jordan Harbinger Show - Available everywhere you listen to podcasts

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Get it on. Indeed. Indeed. Dr. Drew's board-certified physician. What's going on? five systems. Where should we go? Hey, I don't know if I... Did I review the Matthew Perry autopsy for our audience? No, I don't think so.

Let me just quickly do that since it was something on everyone's mind. So a lot was made of the fact that he had ketamine in his system, and he had large amounts of ketamine in his system. That in itself is the headline, that he got his hands on of ketamine in his system. That in itself is the headline, that he got his hands on enough ketamine

to produce that kind of blood serum level. It did not kill him. This is the fucked up part people are getting into. Oh my God, ketamine killed him. Ketamine, ketamine. Do you know why we use shit tons of ketamine in the emergency room when people come in with a a need for surgical procedures and whatnot, particularly adolescents? Because it doesn't harm them.

It doesn't prevent them from breathing. They need some monitoring. But their high levels, they're fine. They are fine. But to get that kind of level in your system, you're abusing it. You got your hands on it somehow. That's kind of odd and weird. And he was getting ketamine treatments, which means he was getting infusions either for his depression or was doing guided therapy under the influence of ketamine.

Both – well, the treatment part of it for depression is well-established. However, I have seen it trigger drug addicts. The guided therapy under a hallucinogen, dissociative hallucinogen, is highly skeptical on that one. So ketamine itself has an established use and a sort of meh use. But in drug addiction, people need to be aware that I've seen it trigger people. And it clearly was a problem for Matthew Perry, who was on a large amount of an opiate. He was on buprenorphine. Which, again, he was going around talking about his sobriety,

and that means he was really struggling. He was on medically-assisted therapy. He was on moderate doses of that, and he was on two benzodiazepines, Ativan and Klonopin. That, with buprenorphine, will stop you from breathing, Not ketamine, although I'm sure the ketamine did not help. It will, at very least, suppress your respiratory drive, so when you fall asleep from the ketamine and the buprenorphine, the Ativan and the Kladopin, you stay asleep underwater and don't breathe because you have no respiratory drive. And so that's what happened to him, much like it happened to Whitney Houston

and Whitney Houston's daughter. And, again, what happened to him, much like it happened to Whitney Houston and Whitney Houston's daughter. And again, Prince died of the same combination and everybody dies of that combination because it is a deadly combo. And the fact that doctors prescribe those things together is astonishing to me. They've killed tons of my patients that way. And here we are yet again. So why they do that? of my patients that way. And here we are yet again. So, so why they do that? Good question. Yeah. Good question. So it wasn't the ketamine. Well, the chemi didn't help, but the ketamine is, is odd and weird that he got his hands on ketamine. It is not a headline.

I had also seen that the large amount of ketamine that he had was, is used for anesthesia among doctor doctors. Like I just said, if you at the age of 18 came to the ER, we would give you a gigantic dose of that at the level because it's safe and doesn't stop you from breathing. You don't go on. You think it knocked him out to the point where he just went into his tub? Would not have happened without the other two. If the ketamine itself had done it, he would have had respiratory drive. But the opiate and the benzo suppresses the respiratory drive,

so he didn't have the drive to breathe when he went underwater. So that was that. All right. Now let's talk about something you and I talked about over the break, which is traveling with my son and how prompt that kid is. But, and I think this would be helpful for people to understand. What is prompt? I mean, if you really think about it, what is prompt? What is on if you really think about it, what is prompt? What is on time?

You mean what motivates that? No, I just mean what is it? It's not like my son has a different relationship with a clock than others. Well, it's weirdly kind of a contract, isn't it? I agree to be somewhere sometime. Yes. It's a social contract somewhere sometime. Yes. It's that he's – It's a social contract of sorts.

Right. But it's so funny because there was somebody who was working here, a female, over the break when we were trying to clean the place up and organize and do all that. So spent a fair bit of time here over the break just organizing. And there's a woman who came to help, and she's a loud person. But I could always hear her coming down the hall because like, she walked like she was trying to wake you up. You know what i mean and then i noticed that what was walking you know your gait what is promptness so here's what i'm saying

my son is a quiet walker and i'm a quiet walker but i'm not a quiet walker because of the shape of my foot. I weigh 200 pounds. I should make more noise than my daughter when I walk, but I don't because I don't like the concept of making noise coming down the hallway. Right. And now people think, well, maybe that's a little abstract. Like, oh, come on, this is the way she walks. But then I started sort of keeping a dossier and I realized that the loud people are also

the loud walkers. They're also the loud dressers. How does she dress? Well, that's an interesting thing because my grandmother was a loud dresser, a loud talker, and a loud walker. Although we always, their house was on a slab, so it didn't quite resonate like it does. You know, we weren't a two-star. We couldn't really put it. No one, there's no Corolla house that never had a second story.

So we could never, I mean, think about that. All these houses from the San Fernando Valley that my family's living in, there was never a garage and there was never a second story. There's a carport and then a slab. And by the way, were they earthquake attached? Were they, the slab was just, the house sort of sat on the slab? Well, the house I grew up in did not was not on a slab the house i grew up in was pre-slab slab is slab is circa 1950s 40s or 50s they didn't build houses

on slabs they didn't have enough concrete to oh wow you know they put blocks you know make a make a footing or you, or set the house. Yeah, concrete was a little bit new, a little bit of a luxury item, a little whatever. Pouring a big slab was not really in residential applications, not a common thing until the 50s probably. And then we went slab crazy. Anyway, but I started thinking as I was traveling with my son and, you know, the girls would be like, we're going to meet in the lobby at noon.

And of course, he'd be sitting there at noon and they'd be down a half hour later, wherever we went and I started realizing he's a conscientious person and he's so he has all these qualities little things like wake somebody up and like see how they react. You know what I mean? So most women, if you were like, and also we always talk about this too. Women, especially, do not like factor in circumstances, meaning. Context. Context. Like I've always had, I've had girlfriends where it's like I had to get up at six in the morning and go to my construction job and they had nowhere to be that entire day, right? And then at some point at 6.15, I'd be in the bathroom brushing my teeth. I'm fucking swinging a hammer at the illegals for nine hours.

And you're just going to hang out in your Beverly Hills adjacent apartment that your dad pays for. You know what I mean? Can we give a little context? Just a little bit. You know what I mean? Or later on in life, I'm getting up because I have to pay for everything. And you're sleeping and choosing not to work. But I know you're agitated.

for everything and you're sleeping and choosing not to work, but I know you're agitated, you know, stuff like, you know, a thing where like you'd leave and then you'd get down to the car and you'd go, Oh shit, I don't have my keys or something.

You'd come back into the, you have to go back into the bedroom and get the keys out of the bowl or something. And they go, what are you doing? It's like, okay, but I'm catching a fucking flight.

I didn't wake you up the first time so I had to make sure I woke you up this time right right like zero kind of but also the how you set things down like for instance

I go to bed and I have my glass of water or whatever and I'm putting it on the nightstand and someone's in bed sleeping I have my glass of water or whatever, and I'm putting it on the nightstand, and someone's in bed sleeping, I take my pinky, and I slide it under the bottom of the cup just a little bit so it hits first, and I can kind of nurse it down. And people will be like, you know, just plunk, you know, plunk, you know, shutting the door. Sometimes I'll lock the bedroom door, but if you unlock it from the inside,

the little push button will pop out. It'll go like pop. You know, I'll put my thumb on it. Yeah. So that's how Sonny is. Sonny will be asleep. Actually, I pull doors forward before I unlatch it. Right, right, right.

Doesn't, right, right. When I stay at a hotel and I swing my room door open, I catch it with my foot so it doesn't do the ka-chunk and wake up the whole fucking hallway at 5 a.m. when I'm meeting Mike August down in the lobby or whatever. Sonny, if you go into his bedroom in the morning and just go like, hey, you got to get up, he'll wake up and he'll go, sorry. The first thing out of his mouth is just be sorry. Now, you can call it low self-esteem. You can call it a lot of different things. But he has a wiring.

And the wiring is, it feels like my wiring. But I don't think other people feel that way about me. So maybe I'm concocting my own wiring. Now, people that are late don't feel that either. They don't have it. Sonny is not late, not because he's prompt and not because he has a relationship with the clock. It's because he's self-conscious

and he does not want to put you out and make you wait. And that's the negative reinforcement part. There's a positive reinforcement part too, which is I want to be seen as somebody who keeps my contract, keeps my word. I said I'll be here then. I'll be there then. Right. Do you want people to think otherwise of you? Late people don't care.

They don't care. Which is weird. Right. to think otherwise of you? Late people don't care. They don't care. Which is weird. So then is the late also attached globally?

Now, it's not attached to you being thoughtful in a global way. I'm not thoughtful in a global way. That's interesting. I don't call people on their birthdays. I don't tell them how much I appreciate them in my life. I don't buy them fruit baskets. I'm not that way. Is it a reverse narcissism where you just don't want to be seen, but it's sort of a kind of a self?

Mine is I'd like to not be seen. I'd not, you know. But is that a self-preoccupation that has a narcissistic bent to it? Yeah, it could. Like a reverse narcissism kind of? My greatest fear is having someone go, oh, what are you doing? I'm trying to sleep. Or, you know, whatever.

I never want to hear that. I actually, being told things twice and then like waking people up and have them be agitated. Those are my two greatest fears. Now, as far as telling people stuff twice, I have no idea why people have just grown immune to that. But I've had the same conversation with the same people thousands of times. They don't, they're not interested in whether you're told. Now, to me, making somebody wait is embarrassing to me and also being told something twice is embarrassing.

I remember the first time I became aware of this with you. It was 1996, and we were sitting in a tent selling Loveline, the Fox late night show at the time, to the country. Remember in Las Vegas? Yeah, Las Vegas. Nat P, whatever the hell that was. Yeah. And we were sitting there, and some guy mentions Steve Kahila,

and you go, Steve Kahila? And the whole room turned to you, and you were like, I don't know. I was like, and you, I don't remember exactly what, I remember the guy's name jumping out, you reacting to it, and you being very uncomfortable

that suddenly you were the center of attention in that room, which only about five people, I think. But you didn't like it. You told me that was bad. No, no, no, no. Yeah, I don't. It's not a normal example of me being that way. It was the first time I was aware of it.

Yeah. Because I was like, why was that uncomfortable for you? Just like some guy, some guy's name, his odd name. He stayed with me 25 years, 30 years. Oh, he's a guy, yeah. He's a guy from the Groundlings. We used to do bits together and be friends back in the day.

And then his sister went on to run like DreamWorks or something. But, be all that as it may, I'm a quiet walker and it's not because of my anatomy. I don't want to wake people

up. And you know, I weigh 75 pounds more than Natalia and Sonny weighs 40 pounds more than Natalia and we both walk a lot quieter than Natalia. And that's how Sonny always was.

And that's how Natalia always was. And, but I would like people in the new year to not think of, they think of late, like they think a spina bifida or something. It's a disease and this person suffers from it. You really can't. You have to kind of work around it. What you can do is you can tell them different times. If the movie starts at 8, tell them it starts at 7.30

so we can trick them into leaving earlier and stuff like that. And it's not about any of that. It has nothing to do with time. It has everything to do with being thoughtful, but not thoughtful in the fruit basket way, which is interesting. Just awareness. Your effect on other people. Yes, it's your effect on other people, but not for birthday cards.

Right. Or at least not for me. Right. I don't know, because Natalia would be more thoughtful than Sonny. Interesting. In birthday cards, in baskets and hugs and stuff like that.

You know what I mean? What a weird way. And most of the people I'm talking about who are tardy are much more thoughtful in the gift-giving department than Sonny. Sonny wouldn't be – I wouldn't be and Sonny wouldn't be thoughtful about that at all. But they'd be very thoughtful about making you wait or waking you up or putting you out in any way, shape, or form. But in a weird way, being thoughtful about birthdays and whatnot is

calling attention to yourself a bit so it kind of goes against our instincts a little bit like i don't want to bother anybody yeah i mean i do i guess i guess it falls under the heading of something for me which is i'm always like oh leave them alone they don't need that they're gonna use it you know what they're gonna do with that candle yeah they're gonna have to put it somewhere they don't want to deal with that more more boxes and packing paper you know whatever like i yeah so it's not all that consistent but i i did i didn't notice traveling with sunny that he's insanely prompt and it has nothing to do with me telling him to be prompt it has it's an overall Global position that he has about not inconvenient inconveniencing others yeah but does not translate into gifts interesting and you're right as long as um

interesting and you're right as long as um you know as long as this is becoming self-serving maybe the gifts are as much for the people giving the gifts as they are for the because it does seem to be a like an obsession with with a lot of people and it sometimes feels but but women like it we don't like receiving gifts either you and. We also don't like being the recipient of it, really. But women love that. Well, they love it for the symbolism of it. Yeah. For the gesture, the thinking. You're thinking of me.

It's like, no, no, I don't want you thinking of me. I would be uncomfortable if you were thinking of me. But then you go, well, then you go up on a stage with a microphone and talk for an hour. I know, it's odd. And then you go, everything is just odd then. It's weird, yeah. In that particular case.

But I would never, I would go, from every show I do the following morning, we're traveling through an airport and my worst fear would be to in any way, shape or form be singled out in any way at an airport for doing something or saying something or any, you know, I just want to slide, you know, as quietly under the radars as humanly possible. Hey, switching topics. Oh, and we just walked out. God damn it. He pulled something from one of my streaming shows that he liked a lot or

was very interesting, which is this Chinese virologist physician who ran away from China because she was threatened with being, quote, disappeared. She was actually working on the coronavirus backbone for the Chinese Liberation Army, the People's Liberation Army, and really started asking questions about, what are we doing here? And she was threatened and came here. Point is, she has now been the object of this cognitive campaign. I think we were talking about it on the phone the other day. It turns out the Chinese government has a cognitive – a department of defense called cognitive defense or cognitive operations where they go in and do brainwashing.

That's their deal is to go do brainwashing. And she's been being attacked for quite some time. And I could see that – I could see these robots attacking her and I just called one out and I immediately got attacked. And for interviewing her, I'm still getting attacked two weeks later, which is fascinating. You find these odd accusations and you go on the web, you go downstream to who the profile is, it's got zero followers. It's nobody that has any identity. They're often, their thread is often just retweets of things or these weird cartoons with people waving

American flags to get out of our country for her. Very odd stuff. But the point being is we were talking, I think, yesterday about some of the brainwashing

that's going on and how people can't get out of their own way and can't think, sort of can't step outside and look rationally at things. It's going on on a major, major level from the outside, more than people realize. And then the fact that Americans jump onto these things, which the news media will do,

is disgusting. And people need to really look at themselves for jumping onto these campaigns that are coming from Russia and China. to really look at themselves for jumping onto these campaigns that are coming from Russia and China. And by the way, oftentimes, it's things like, you know, the Russia, you know, Trump, Hunter Biden's laptop is not a significant asset is not something important that came from somewhere. Right. You know what I mean? And they jumped all over it, as though it was their own thoughts. All right, well, we'll get more into this in one second. First, a word from our friend Jordan Harbinger.

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you down. We can shake you down, but you're on record with us. For more on how Jack became so trusted in the highest levels of the Gambino organization, check out episode 392 of The Jordan Harbinger Show. Yeah, well, as I told Dr. Drew, the more interesting part about this whole thing is that nobody really seems to care. in the sense that we had a virus that devastated the world that may have come from a lab in China and may have been created for this purpose and may have been released intentionally and may have, may have, may have,

that cost millions of lives and billions and damage damages it. And most Americans don't care whether it emanated from a wet market or was part of an evil regime's militarization of of of of covid. And well, first first off hold on initially would scream at you if you said it came from a lab in china by the way is that what what sounds more nefarious than chinese lab do you know what i mean it's first of all as if as if these people could be trusted in any way shape or form right this isn't a lab in den. This is a lab in China.

So just the fact that you would be shouted down and called a racist if you even floated the notion that it came from a lab in China, the fact that many people, Fauci and others, were part of a conspiracy to squash any information that said it came from the lab in China. That's our government. That's our officials trying to destroy anybody who floated the notion that it came from a lab in China and, you know, get them fired from their jobs at Stanford or whatever it is.

And now that, A, it probably did come from the lab and b we found out that many of our own forces were nefariously trying to silence anybody and get rid of paperwork or any findings that that that said it came from anything other than a wet lab and now we know and no American gives a shit we're all just moving on there's no apologies nobody's getting fired Fauci's fine we still got the candles and you should just sort of move on with your life

those of us who thought it came from a lab and simultaneously talking about how COVID devastated this country so you say COVID devastated this country and Right. So you say COVID devastated this country, and then I go, where did COVID come from? And they go, shut up, racist. Yeah. And by the way.

Well, that's your thoughts? Those are your thoughts. The really ironic thing. And by the way, our president, Joe Biden, and whoever, nobody wants to know. Nobody's going, hey, man, I want some answers here. Did this thing get, this isn't born in a lab did it get released intentionally i want to know i want information but i feel like there's a little bit of a class action lawsuit here lots of dead people and billions economy decimated no china

you want to cut a check are we interested the racist notion that oh they eat animals in the wet market that's the one you go with. The actual racist story. Yeah, they eat pangolins. And by the way, part of the campaign against me, I got a DM from a guy who claimed to be a physician who claimed to be that woman's husband. Wow. And it says, American people have told lies about me and managed to convince those false ideas to her. They have convinced her that I'm working with the CCP and tried to tried to harm her uh blatant lies god knows i love my wife no lie can ever change that

blah blah blah wow and i like do i believe this guy is she diluted is this well as i told you We talked about Russia and Russia's cyber war and Hillary Clinton didn't get elected because of Russia. It was nonstop. Can I say this, Drew? Yeah. How is it that they say with a straight face that Trump shouldn't be eligible to run for president because he lied about the outcome of the last election. Don't we have 200,000 hours of Hillary Clinton going, he's not a legitimate president. We have every Democrat on the planet saying he's not the president. He's not Trump, not a legitimate president because that wasn't a legitimate election.

I mean, that's that's the yardstick to measure whether someone is capable of running. That's all we have is you guys talking about this endlessly. Yeah. I mean, Stacey Abrams of Georgia, she lost the election and it's never stopped, never conceded. It's like, I won. I may not have gotten enough votes, but I won. It's like, I don't know what the fuck Stacey Abrams is talking about. But the point is there's endless footage of every Democrat explaining that Trump is not the actual president. So think about that in terms of the kind of weird brainwashing campaigns that go on.

Right? So somebody's doing that. Well, so. And that's not my paranoid self saying that. It's just now based on everything I've been exposed to. There must come from somewhere. It was all Russia, Russia, Russia. Right?

And then somebody found out that most of the Russian disinformation and most of their attempts didn't have to do with Hillary Clinton and didn't have to do with Donald Trump. It was basically race agitating. They're trying to start a race war here, essentially, which, by the way, you idiots are all buying into constantly. And so what we did is we thought the russians took over the election and then it found out when it got the analytics that it was really mostly race-based stuff and then we paused and then we went right back to arguing about race that's insane well here but russia would be smart to agitate about race that's the one other thing I've learned about these things. They have studied the shit out of us for 30 or 40 years. The moment has come when they can really deploy some stuff that screws with us and we are responding.

Right. And we need to be aware of that and not jump on it. That's my point. It is disgusting when citizens jump on these brainwashing campaigns well you just saw it you just saw it with covet that's what they did they jumped on it all right phoenix coming up copper blues that'll be uh phoenix arizona that'll be uh this friday and this saturday two shows friday two shows saturday then it's off to Solana Beach at the Belly Up. Doing a

couple of shows there too with Fitz Dogg and Skinny Jody Miller. Always a fun venue. Always a good night. Just go to amcroll.com for all the live shows. Grand Junction, Colorado. Mesa Theater coming up January. Is that say 26 over there?

Two shows. Just go to amcoll.com for all the live shows. What do you got, Drew? Go to dr.drew.com for everything. It is all there. But dr.drew.tv if you want a blast. And today, if you want to hear more like that interview with the Chinese scientist, Jim Brewer today asked Dr. Drew. That's dr.drew.tv, dr.drew.com.

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