The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1820 Verification of Memory

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

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Got to get on the chest. We're going to run them that they do, but sold America. Remember that, Joe? I do remember that. Dr. Drew, back from Tampa. The great state of Florida. Somewhere in Florida.

I have an interesting thought experiment. Please. For you, Drew. I'm ready. Because you and I talk a lot about memory and about how it's not what we thought it was. And, you know, I grew up, well, okay, so when we were younger, there wasn't a lot of ways to verify memory because you'd be on the phone and then the person say, I said 6 o'clock, then he said 8 o'clock, and then everything was kind of a stalemate.

Now there's texting and there's real-time verification of stuff on the internet. So people go, this guy said this or he didn't say that or whatever, and then you just go look it up on your phone, you know. So the verification part of memory is a lot faster and a lot more feasible. It wasn't feasible really in the past, but it's not slowed people down at all as it pertains to their memory. it pertains to their memory. And now I think it's sped things up, you know, in terms of how people work. And so I had this – but then there are the people we know who are accurate. Yeah.

And then the people we know who aren't accurate. Yes. Who don't know they're inaccurate, and who basically— And the inaccurate outnumber the accurate by about 99 to 1. Yes, but nobody knows they're in that group. Oh, none of the inaccurate do not— I don't know, and they'll defend against it like crazy. Right.

So my experience with people is they can be inaccurate 10 times in a row, and then on the 11th time, they fight just as hard. No, then you're annoying. No, I just mean the next thing that comes up, that's kind of how they roll. Now, I had some thoughts, some deep thoughts about this. I can't wait. Well, one is, remember we had Chris in here the other day, and he wasn't hearing in his earbuds through his microphone. Yes. And I thought, and we're trying to figure out what that was.

But it's also said to me many times, I told you this, and I go, you didn't tell me that. But maybe he hears it in his head. Oh, like a disconnect between actual hearing and what he's laying down in his head. Well, he was saying I was hearing me talking in my head. Yeah, yeah. And I think I've experienced that with a lot of people. They go, I told you this. And I go, you didn't tell me this.

And they go, I told you. But I think they told me in their head they said it. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, there's no doubt in my mind that happens. Happens a lot. Yeah. Happens with, I think, women a lot. Yeah.

All right. So I was, but I'm very interested in the subject. Yes. Because it comes up a lot. Yes. And it just happens a lot. People just said this or told me that. Last show or the show before last, we were sort of reconstructing something you said on the air that I got a little wrong.

It happens. Yeah. A lot. Yeah. And now. But I at least know to be very, very cautious about memory. I'm like, I think it's sort of what I am. Not, this is what happened.

Right. But it happens a lot. So I was – and to the best of them because I was out to dinner last evening with a very accurate guy named Chris Morgan who writes all the Fast and Furious movies and all the Hobbs and Shaw's and Bird Box. He does all that. Very successful, very smart, a very good dude. And also very sort of magnanimous guy. Yeah. So we were talking about sound and how important sound plays and a role sound plays. And I was, as it pertained to movies.

And I was telling him that I was interviewing Dolph Lundgren the other day. And I said, you know, if you ever watch those Rocky movies and turn the sound down, you'll see the punches missing. But if you turn the sound up, you'll see them. Wow, that's interesting. It actually changes the way you see it. You try watching, you know, a fight sequence from Rocky with the sound all the way down, and it looks sort of amateurish. You'll see them miss a lot. And the guy flinch and, you know, stuff.

But turn the sound up, it connects the punch. That's how the brain works. That's how it works. That's how the brain works. Yeah. Right. So I said. Was Chris surprised by that or was he also like, that's how the brain works?

No, no, he was like, yeah, 100%. He makes movies. Yeah, right. Lots of fight sequences. Yeah. Got to do it that way. fight sequences yeah gotta do it that way so i said i said you know there's that uh famous film um and i and i used to argue with my guy nate and all this kind of stuff because they would at the documentary site yeah they would do footage of me driving the Porsche and the hill climb at Lord Whatever's house in Goodwood.

And they would always turn the engine sound down and sort of crank up generic rock. And it looked dumb. I said, turn down the generic rock and crank up the engine sound. That's what puts people there. So it's something I've thought about for a while. And so I said to Chris, I said, you surely have seen the famous sort of bootleg film from the 70s called Rendezvous. famous sort of bootleg film from the 70s called Rendezvous. And Rendezvous was a 70s kind of bootleg thing where a guy gets into a 275 Daytona Ferrari,

a 12-cylinder front-engine Ferrari, and they mount the camera down on the front bumper, and he speeds through Paris at dawn. Surprise you. I know. With all your Parisian leanings. I know, my obsession these days. See it.

And I'll show you 10 seconds of it. of 10 seconds of it. So it's dawn, it's 70s. He's just kind of hightailing it through Paris. It was a famous bootleg VHS

Take that made the rounds All the car He's heading down to Champs-Élysées to the Arc de Triomphe now That's right Now all filled with Arabs But okay Back then it was a little purer And it's this great

Visceral Effect of this car speeding down the highway with this screaming Ferrari V12 with the six downdraft Webbers on the manifold and the sort of glorious sound it makes. So he's at the A12, which is normally packed cars, and it's pretty empty because it's morning. And it's 1975. Right.

All right. All right, so you get it. So now I had heard, so I said to Chris, surely you've seen the bootleg. And he goes, oh, yeah, all the car guys have. I mean, if you're going to make a car, I said rendezvous. And he was like, yeah. Yeah.

Because if you're going to be in the car chase world, that's a kind of a template for, you know, here's what you aspire to. Do they just out of curiosity, they know who did that or why he did it or is there anything? It was for a long time. It was shrouded in mystery. Some guy takes his camera, mounts it to the front bumper. No small matter in 1975 either. Emmy can look it up. Maybe it could have been 1979, could be 1973, but cameras had film.

Yeah. And they had to roll on. 76. 76. All right. 73, 79, 76. there you go boom all right so high and low take the metal no uh no no small feet yeah so i say to chris i said you you picture that what you're looking at and it's all sound so the sound is what's doing it. Then I heard something later,

which I didn't share with Chris, but this is a side note. Then there was some scuttlebutt later that the guy was just driving a sedan. It could be driving a Nissan Maxima with the camera and laid the V12 Ferrari over it. And that would make sense. When you watch it, you know, there's a very long straightaway going to the trial.

And he's passing a taxi cab or two. But anybody's ever been motoring down the freeway at 65 miles an hour and had someone going 25, 30 miles an hour faster than them past them. They blow right by. You know what I mean? He's not going 140 miles an hour on that thing. He's got cabs going 35 and he may be going 65. Maybe. Because that's a function of proximity to the ground. You're seeing ground go by.

He's passing guys. Like I said, if you got a rental car and Mike August driving, and you're running in a minivan. I've seen that. I've been there. And you're running late for the airport. Except he'll do a U-turn in the middle of the street all of a sudden. Going against traffic. He will pass cars at the same clip. Yeah.

So then there was some scuttlebutt that, well, maybe he's just driving a fucking Nissan four-door. That would make sense in terms of the mounting of a camera, too. Yeah. You wouldn't put that on a Ferrari bumper necessarily. But who knows? We don't know for sure. So anyway, I'm talking to Chris, who's a very accurate guy who makes these car movies.

And he's seen it all. And oh, the story has come out. The truth. Holy shit. A Mercedes sedan. It's a Mercedes sedan driven by Claude himself. Not a racing driver. and it was on a sunday morning yeah sunday morning right just girlfriend now it's a it's a little bit suspect

because lelouch means the weird you know in a in a kind of a slangy Yeah. It's like, okay. All right. So now I say to Chris, you know, it's really about the sound. Like, we don't even know if the sound was taken live. Yeah. Could have been laid over the top. We don't know if he was driving a Ferrari. Could have been driving a Mercedes-Benz and then Chris said well it have to be because I saw the tachometer in the shot I saw the tach and I said no there was no over the shoulder no you know stuff where you see the guy sawing away at the wheel and the tack moving up

and the cages moving around. You hear it with the shifting in your head. He goes, no, no, I've seen it a few times and I could see that tack in the shot going up. And I said, no.

Now, I'd only seen it, I've seen it a couple of times not in years many years years and years and years 25 years easily he's seen it arguably more than me because that's his business yeah i mean making you might have studied movies and he said i would show it to the like the second unit guys and the you know this is what we want you. Is it possible there's a world where somebody superimposed something? Okay. Well, it's not Rendezvous. I mean, no, it's not this.

This is a camera mounted in the front. Show me the car again. Scroll it up. Oops, wrong car. There you go. Yeah, that looks about right. Yeah. It's interesting because that was a 275 and i said daytona but they that story was a 275 for i was kind of a year before the daytona that's fine

that's it there yeah five four million bucks now three all right here's the point chris a very accurate guy makes films for a living yeah has seen this thing many times and and he got it wrong he he in his head he was looking at a tachometer and he thought i was wrong as he should have been because he was seeing a tachometer yeah but and in the past we wouldn't really have a way to settle this but i said don, pick up your phone, just put rendezvous in. And then he looked at it and he just said, you're right. Now, everyone else would have probably argued. Most people I know would have, oh, there's another version of it.

Right. See, that's the craziness. Searching the internet and never finding it. Yes. He just looked up and went, you're right. My memory was wrong but but it's interesting that it is the sound that put the tack into the film because you hear what i'm saying is people are capable of a lot in their head not just capable they routinely do

this but don't fuck with me that's what i'm saying i'm not i don't do with me. That's what I'm saying. I'm not. I don't do that, which people never know. They assume I do what they do. You guys got it? You got it? You hearing it? Let's see if they catch themselves. Hey, I want to tell you about Sugar Shift Probiotic from Biotiquest. Probiotics is a little, it's kind of a dicey field, but Biotiquest Sugar Shift makes it easy.

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This is just, I don't know. Maybe I haven't thought this through well enough to really bring it up, but let me try. This guy was arrested and now in prison prison now found guilty of releasing tax records against the law okay i'm going to pull it up here if you don't mind he took the tax returns of i think trump and released them because he felt it was his duty. He was self-righteous. People need to see how billionaires get away with these things. Is this?

Right. Yeah, I've heard this story. Okay. And he gets five years in prison. A couple things about the story. He not only did it with Trump, he did it to 2,000 other people's tax returns. This is a profound legal violation. This is a – like imagine if I'd gone out and just started talking about multiple medical records without people's consent, just sort of issuing or casting them onto the internet willy-nilly.

And A, there's so many things embedded in the story that I kind of want to get into. One is people are like, I can't believe they gave him the maximum. They could have gone after him for all 2,000 leaks and put him away for life, number one. If this was somebody working at a financial company, the company would have been sued for God knows how many millions of dollars. Why they didn't go after the firm he was a part of is hard for me to understand, but this is the more problematic part of this. A, story's buried.

Totally buried. I did not hear this story. Yeah, totally buried. I heard when it came out. It's a massive story, and it's buried. It is a profound statement of the state of our legal institutions and think about how fucked up this guy has to have been to think that this was his ethical duty to violate the law this way. He now alleges contrition and he, oh, I knew I was wrong.

I was, but that he was so blinded by the press, the rhetoric, who knows what, that he felt right doing this. And the press has buried the entire story. Yeah, they did. So just to me, it's such by itself, one not so little story, but maybe a little story, that speaks so many volumes about what's going on right now where people are being brainwashed into believing horrible misconduct is the right thing to do and the press is supporting that or at least not shining a light on these improprieties. Well, they're creating it. And they're creating it at the same time.

That's how these people get so brainwashed. Yeah. So – It's really disturbing. I have a friend who's a financial guy. He's losing his mind. He's like, I can't believe that the whole financial world is not up in arms about this or the tax world. Well, listen, there's an absolute sort of ending part of it, which is somebody tries to assassinate somebody. Yep.

That's the ultimate. Of this brainwashing. Yep. Yeah. Yep. There's a kind of a lighter, more white collar version of it, which is you. Trump probably experienced. I mean, there's a few versions. He just got handed down an eighty three million dollar suit for some very specious story about raping someone in a department store that she can't remember when or what date or what season or she seems to have no details. The idea is you've got to punish Trump, you know what I mean, which is now we're getting into scary territory because you're essentially now we'll have people that the last Trump administration probably had a bunch of people in it that completely disagreed.

And he'd go, I'll do this. And he'd leave and go, we're not going to do any of that because he's there's all the leaks, all the sabotage. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Because they're conscientious objectors and or French resistance. Right. of that because he's there's all the leaks all the sabotage yeah you know yeah yeah because they're conscientious objectors and or french resistance right viva la france so say arc de triomphe again yes so what they're but what but the press is doing and we've discussed this multiple times yes they're saying hitlerian They're talking about the end of a democracy.

They're talking about he's going to round up his naysayers and put them behind bars. He's going to destroy the planet by getting rid of the Paris Accords. He's going to do this. So if he's going to do this and you're a juror in New York City and he's been on some trumped-up, pardon the pun, charges about him overestimating Mar-a-Lago or whatever, then why wouldn't you and your fellow jurors try to lock the guy up? Yeah, yeah. If this is what's on the menu.

Yeah. You'd be kind of a fool not to. Yeah. Now, there's kind of two sides of it. Like, on one hand, are these people brainwashed fools or are they the ultimate patriots? Because if you believe this, he is going to become a dictator day one and he's going to lock people up and he's going to get rid of due process and you know he's going to destroy the climate and everything well if this is true then you're a patriot they're the perfect useful idiot right are brainwashed fools who are also patriots so it's perfect

right and narcissists though in their own weird way yeah so it's not all about the country because they don't seem to like the country that much outside of this part of it, which is kind of inconsistent. Like they would love the Ben Franklin statue torn down in Philadelphia. So they're not really that kind of patriot. They don't watch NASCAR. I'll put it to you that way. So that's

interesting. It's where it's going and why all the talking heads, you know, when these fools like Bob Woodward and these guys, you know, Bernstein and these guys sit there and go on Rachel Maddow's show and start flapping their gums about book burnings and women won't have access to health care and stuff. They start flapping their fucking gums about that. Then the dumbos who watch Rachel Maddow and the zoo

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Yeah, I don't know how we deal with this. I guess, like I said, I'm back from the great state of Florida, and I literally had a fantasy, a whole conversation with myself where I'm like, you know, there's one border on Florida. And it's way down in a peninsula down in southern Florida. Pretty secure down here. And things start to go down. I mean, and people are happy. And their businesses are thriving. And they're all out at night. And there's no taxes.

It's just, maybe. In fact, Dave Rubin is just like, when are you coming? When are at night and there's no taxes. I was just, maybe. Dave Rubin is just like, when are you coming? When are you coming? You have no idea how much better it is. Oh, yeah. I would take everyone's word for it. No one ever comes back. I know.

And then you have Gavin Newsom. He's making the rounds. He's talking about how great everything is all the time. Here in California. Oh, in general, but in general in California too, which is, it's all part of the sort of ramp up for the election. But I mean, it is, you know, at a certain point,

you cannot look at the NASDAQ and the Nikkei average and your 401k, like at a certain point, you have to kind of just drive around and look around. You know what I mean? And you have to go, you know, it's like I always said with COVID. I knew it didn't affect kids because I live in a neighborhood filled with teenagers and I never heard one story, you know, Johnny Benskin's down and he

looks like he's not going to make it. You know what I mean? It was no, there was nothing. So I didn't need to go onto the CDC website and check mortality rates for 14 year old boys. I had a 14 year old boy and he had a thousand friends and nary a one of them got a cough from from covid so i thus become a de facto expert on covid and how it affects teenage boys and when you roll into another state and you walk around and you move around and you look around and you see good roads and you don't really see homeless and you don't really see graffiti and you don't really see trash and you see people sort of generally pretty happy about you know living there being there whatever you kind of go yeah like like nice you know like I was staying in a place in Colorado and I was, Mike and I were looking out the window of the restaurant and they had like a BMX park, you know, between the apartment and the restaurant and it was clean and there was no graffiti and people were just kind of using it.

And I was like, okay, so they run this place in a pretty efficient manner. You know what I mean? And then L.A., it's, oh, you'll get your dog napped. You know, you'll get your watch stolen. You'll get your car broken into. There's homeless and garbage everywhere. And then somebody's saying, you know, the GDP is up 26% from, and you just go, listen, I'm looking around. I'm seeing garbage.

I'm seeing homeless. I'm looking around. I'm seeing garbage. I'm seeing homeless. And that steak used to be $39, and now it's $61. So that's what I – and by the way, the gas was $3. Now it's $6. And you're going, no, you don't get it.

It's good. It's good. It's come down. We've added jobs. You know what I mean? And you're like, yeah, We've we've added jobs. You know what I mean? You're like, OK, you've added jobs. But the stake is doubled and the gas is doubled and there's garbage everywhere. So I know you're telling me all this stuff, by the way, I would be this way. If you were trying, if Rochelle Walensky and Fauci were up there explaining that COVID really didn't affect young, healthy people and my son was on a ventilator in the ICU, I would have a different experience. Right. You see what I'm saying?

Yes. And oh, and his best friend is in the room next to him. Right. I would have a different experience. You see what I'm saying? And oh, and his best friend is in the room next to him. I would have a different experience. So you're lying, and I'm having a different experience than you lying, and I don't need to check the data and the statistics. I have ears and eyes. I'm looking around. This is what I'm experiencing.

Dave Rubin goes to Florida. He experiences something different. You can say, oh, here's how they handled COVID. Here's what I'm experiencing. Dave Rubin goes to Florida. He experiences something different. You can say, oh, here's how they handled COVID. Here's what their GDP or their net growth is down 3%. Where's California? Yeah. Tell that to Dave Rubin. Yeah, right. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. But there's a component in here too that I've noticed lately that is really distressing to me. It goes in the same category as what you're describing, which is in my profession, clinical experience was always paramount. Like in my experience, here's what I've kind of seen. And maybe one day the research suggests something different,

but I'm going to bet the research will catch up with the clinical experience. Or it could be wrong. The clinical experience could be distorted in some way. So we keep an eye on it. I would say eight to nine times out of 10, the clinical experience gets confirmed eventually in the literature. That has been erased. My experience with kids in my neighborhood being taken down by COVID is now bore out by this data. I and other doctors are called chumps if we rely on our clinical experience because that is just something different. Who are you to say? I'm saying I'm doing hundreds and hundreds, maybe thousands of people, and I'm seeing something a little different. I'm waiting.

I'm guessing eventually we're going to find that there's something going on here. It's always been my experience, always, always, always in medicine. And it's just astonishing that that has no value now. And I think that's a function of how the electronic medical record has just made doctors just box checkers. It's all they do now is check, check, check, check. I did this, I did this, I did this. They're not thinking the way we were trained. I mean, sometimes, in some ways, surgeons certainly are, but in the so-called cognitive stuff, not so much.

All right. Speaking of Florida, I'm going to be in Florida. That'll be this Friday and Saturday. Naples, off the hook. It says only tickets, sorry, only Friday and Saturday matinee left, but there's only a Saturday matinee. I don't think there's a Friday matinee left, but there's only a Saturday matinee. I don't think there's a Friday matinee. There's an early, there's a six o'clock show. Maybe that's what they mean.

Matinee means. I know, yeah. Four o'clock. Well, matinee means they added a show, which they did. It means essentially morning. It means around the morning. Is that what the word means? Yeah, yeah.

What's it from? French, matinee. Matinee. Matinee. Rendez of means around the morning. Is that what the word means? Yeah, yeah. What's it from? French. Matin. Matinier. Matin. Rendez-vous in the matinier. So I think, but I'm looking at Emmy. I think.

It's just Saturday. Yeah, just Saturday. All right. So everything's sold out except for the Saturday matinee, if you want to check that out. And then it's off to Vegas, February 22nd. A couple of shows at Kimmel's. I'm all over the place.

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