The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1831 The Way Nature Flows

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

The week wraps up with Dr. Drew in Mexico and Chris Laxamana in the studio. Chris begins by sharing heartbreaking story for wine drinkers, they recount the coffee options of yore, and Drew explains the difference of living, and living well. Plus, equality in the workplace, and which way are the Gen-Z genders leaning politically? Please Support Our Sponsor: The Jordan Harbinger Show - Available everywhere you listen to podcasts

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And Chris Max Patton's studio over here taking care of business. He brought some topical stories in for us. Yeah, so the New York Times just did this story. First, they took you back to 1991, where a segment of 60 Min minutes just changed the entire wine industry by basically saying red wine is good for you. It's good for inflammation. It's good for your heart. And now they've gone out and said, look, there hasn't really been a study since then that

has promoted that. And now they're saying it's actually a carcinogen. Oh, no. No. And it doesn't matter what you're drinking. No alcohol is good for you. All right. Yeah.

So it's good for you, it's bad for you, and we don't know. Now we don't know. Well, it sounds like now it's just bad for you. Yeah. Now we don't. Well, it sounds like now it's bad for you. Yeah. But look, if you've been around long enough, you would see 250 studies on coffee and red wine.

For some reason, they never do white wine. They only do red wine. But they just do red wine studies and coffee studies. And then so you can go, it's this or it's that. coffee studies and then so you can go it's this or it's that uh but enough people globally drink red wine and drink coffee on a regular basis for you to sort of form your own study which is um probably neither here nor there when done in some moderate, you know, consumption form. We stopped talking about coffee a long time ago, but we used to talk about coffee all the time. As a matter of fact, when I was a kid, even in high school, it would have been unheard of to drink coffee as a 15 year old.

Was it not true? Oh my God. Yes. Oh, I, I remember when I picked up the habit in medical school, I had a friend that was way into it and I thought, wow, this is odd. It seems weird. They're drinking so much coffee.

Yeah. Oh. And when I, now I, Oh God, the coffee. I come from the coffee group, the coffee.

So now I hope you're sitting down, Drew, but my dad didn't drink coffee. What? Not because he didn't like coffee, just because it was something. Do you know what I mean? Yes. He didn't drink. It was a bizarre house to grow up in and that you couldn't find a sack of coffee, a beer, or a Playboy in the entire house. When my dad was like 40, there was nothing.

Nothing. I've never met a guy who didn't have anything in the house. So nobody drank coffee in my house. And my mom. Nobody drank coffee or masturbated or drank beer. That's right. What's wrong with that house? Yeah.

My mom would have drank in like Postum or something. You know, she had to have. European product. Well, no. I mean, I don't even know if it's European. What my mom had to have was an alternative to whatever the man was doing that was equally as bad for your system. But didn't, you know, she'd say, well, you can't eat a candy bar, but you can have a slab of halva or carom. You know what I mean?

Chris, do you know what a halva is? I do. I've had it. Okay. He's had it with me. Yeah, we do. We had it in Europe. Yeah, in Europe.

Very chalky. I tell everyone it's Jewish. It's like someone takes sand and puts honey in it. You know what I mean? That's how. But what I'm saying. When I've had conversations with many about how good honey is for you and stuff, I say it just hits your liver the same way. It's just sugar.

It just tastes like it's sugar. You know, it's like you like plain yogurt with tons of honey in it. Right. Yeah. Tastes good. Right. Yeah. You know why it tastes good?

Because it's sugar. That's why. The reason you like it is probably the reason. It's the same thing. Ah, make a smoothie out of pineapple and bananas and papaya. Yeah, tastes almost as good as a milkshake. Yeah. You want to know why?

Because it's got the same sugar as a milkshake does. But all right. I don't want to digress. But the point is, is nobody in my family drank coffee and it would have been very weird for me as a senior in high school to pour myself a cup of coffee. No one did it. And I think, I think we treated coffee for, you know, 17 year olds, 16 year old, 15. We would have been no different than if you walked into your kitchen and cracked a beer and started walking out with it.

Your mom would have went, what the fuck are you doing? Oh, no. It's actually so there's a study that says adults who are 35 years or older had their first coffee or they first started drinking coffee between their 18th and 20th birthday. But the people who consume coffee between the ages of 18 to 24, they started at age 15. Yes. It's Starbucks, you know, blah, blah, blah. It's a thing.

The crazy, I was thinking about, I have a pot of coffee is brewed at my home every day, every morning. Either somebody does it or I do it. But either way, there's a pot. I used to think, I was thinking the other day about the insane dance my family would go through over a pot of coffee. There was no morning coffee. That wasn't a thing. Grandparents, parents, separate households, stepdad, stepmom, there was no coffee coffee. That wasn't a thing. Grandparents, parents, separate

households, stepdad, stepmom, there was no coffee maker. There was no coffee. But, my grandmother, once a year, would have people over and she'd pull out a coffee cake that was frozen in the freezer

and she would thaw it out and she would serve coffee cake as dessert. And, you know, I was in heaven because it was just dessert. You know what I mean? And at some point she would say, OK, who wants coffee? And if one or two people raise their hand, that would be not enough to make a pot of coffee. Right. That meant we're going back to the freezer.

We're going to get the taster's choice with the freezer burn on it that's been in there for 11 years. We're going to chip away at it with the knife. Then we're going to boil a kettle of water. Then we're going to boil a kettle of water. And once the kettle of water is boiled, we're going to dump it into a mug. And then I will take a spoonful of this Taster's Choice free dried coffee that I chipped away from the glass jar. I will scoop it out. I will put it in this thing and I will stir it. Do you know what he's talking about, Chris?

Free dried coffee? That sounds disgusting. I don't. I've never had that. It was the greatest thing. Sanka. It was a. I've never had that. It was the greatest thing. Sanka. It was a thing. And taste of his choice.

It was a thing. I think that's why we started drinking coffee earlier. We got better coffee now. It was a movement. That and space food sticks. It was like, we don't have time to make coffee. Okay. Chipping away.

Well, because they kept it. You don't chip it away. Because you could also you if you had a normal purchasing habit with the freeze-dried coffee you'd keep it on the shelf right yeah and you just put it on it was a form of coffee that dissolved in hot water horrible horrible horrible it tastes exactly how you think it would taste yeah but yeah because my grandparents drank it so infrequently they had to keep it in the freezer. And it was years old because one jar of coffee, instant coffee, lasts my grandparents the amount of time that a thing of shampoo lasts me,

which is like 14 years, you know, right? So I was always sitting there going, you know, boiling a pot, a kettle of water takes a little bit of time. And then chipping the thing away. I was like, it's the exact same amount of work to just make a pot of coffee. I would argue that it's less work because you can kind of set it and walk away. This is like, wait for the thing to start whistling and then dumping it into the thing and like stirring it up. for the thing to start whistling and then dumping it into the thing and like stirring it up but my grandmother wouldn't do the pot of coffee unless like three or more people wanted coffee do you think i just had a thought they were your grandma's era was the percolator yeah and we had just

started the drip coffee makers around the same time as the freeze-dried coffee do you think they sort of perceive the drip as much of a hassle as a percolator i i don't know i do know there's like maneuvers where people go well i don't want to do the percolator let's do the instant coffee it'll be a lot faster because it has the word instant in it, but not when it's frozen and not when you have to. But it's not faster. There's nothing. We live in a weird world where we think certain things are just less and it's more whatever. The pot of coffee. If you put on a pot of coffee, according to my I'll grant you 30 seconds longer.

But for people to enjoy themselves, which which didn't factor in of course right and and to be fair to my grandmother whatever hill's brother's can of coffee she had that was 11 years old too so it's not like we would have enjoyed any of that it's true you'd have to take like a can opener you'd have to pull it maybe that was the limiting no no because the can was opened 11 years ago it just had a cap on it no this would have been out probably the can and then so what would end up happening is when i kind of became an adult when i was like 20 21 i wanted the pot of coffee, you know? And then my grandmother would go like, who wants coffee? Because I'm not making a pot if not three people don't want. I had to go through these negotiations, you know?

I'd raise my hand. I want some coffee. And then like my sister would raise her hand and no one else. Because, you know, my dad, my mom, my grandfather, nobody. And so like I'd be like to my stepdad, I'd be like, hey, John, get the hand up. And he'd be like, I don't know. Put the fucking hand up. Put the hand up.

I'll drink it. I'll drink the coffee. I don't really. Just come on. Do the fucking hand, would you? I don't want the taste or choice. This idea that that would be a negotiation. That's how fucking downtrodden these people were

but my grandmother would drink the red wine with the meal yeah of course oh she drank that red wine is she alive let's finish the wine story so the reason so the reason they went for red wine is because the red wine had the reservatrol and all the right antiaging thing. And it's true, they do have those things. And it is also true that a glass of wine a day may have some beneficial effects on lipid metabolism, or at least on the endothelial function. But that in those same studies that they did that showed, hey, less cardiovascular problems in people who drank a glass of red wine a day. All-cause mortality was actually up.

So even there was less cardiac stuff, all-cause mortality goes up. And we've known forever that wine is a carcinogen to all tissue. I've said it forever. It's the only drug. Wine or alcohol? Alcohol. I beg your pardon. I've always said forever that alcohol is the only

drug that people commonly use that's actually carcinogenic to almost every tissue but there's probably some threshold phenomena with that too right you probably have to use a certain amount before the carcinogenicity kicks in although in breast cancer it sort of may not be very much, but they don't really know for sure. But look, to me, what it starts to zero in on is the confusion we have in the United States between living and living well. Because, you know, safety overall and I'm going to live to 120. It's like that's not living. That's not living. You have to live when the day is done and living a good life

and living well it should have priority over just living all right my sermon is over i love it all right oh by the way postum is american i told the truth um yeah it's made of a roasted wheat bran and molasses molasses tasted like shit. Yeah. So my mom. It discontinued in 07. Yeah, because it was horrible. My mom would have been fine with you drinking Postum, but she would have been horrified if you drank coffee.

Molasses. It's good for you. Everything had molasses in it. Molasses, sugar. It's like brown sugar was fine because it was molasses and white. Everything was wrong. They got everything wrong. See, I had a head start on everyone being wrong about everything all the time. You really did.

I had a front row seat to everyone being wrong about everything all the time. So that's my posture in life. I understand that every study is wrong. Okay, sorry. Well, speaking of study so um i was watching bill maher this week or last or on friday actually and so they had uh gene twingy who wrote this book about basically gen z and i meant to bring this up to you guys a few weeks ago but in this study uh she says that there is a gap with gen z as far as a gender gap between uh boys who are leaning a lot more conservative and then girls who are

leaning more liberal what is the definition of gen z now what's the age i don't pay attention i hear all the gens 18 to 26 or something? Or 27? Are they older now? As of 20, so it's they're 12 to 27. 12 to 27. And that never moves. You'll pass through Gen Z, but you won't always be a Gen Z-er.

What I mean is you're always a baby boomer. Right, yeah. That's right. It never moves. And you'll always be a Gen Z-er. That's a generational Oh, you'll be a Gen Z-er. That's a generational... Oh, you'll be a Gen Z-er in your 80s? Yes. Oh. You'll be from the Gen Z-ers.

Like... All right, but you have to be 12 to 27 now. Right now. Yeah. Now, okay. Now. All right. I think the 12 is a little conservative.

I mean, I think little... All right, so then my kids are Gen Z-ers. I'm seeing different it as a routine. My kids are Gen Zers. I'm seeing different sites have different, but your kids are Gen Zers. I have zero interest in these labels, and I know everyone talks their ass off about them, but it's as interesting as pronouns are to me. I'm just like, this is just another thing that someone made up that they want me to say that I'm not interested in. But anyway, go ahead right and the next uh generation since we're at z goes back to a or generation alpha they're going to call it

alpha yeah the next one's alpha interesting yeah first time i've heard that yeah thank you chris you you got it so um and so they're trying to figure out why are the Gen Z girls leading liberal and the Gen Z boys leading conservative. And a big theory is when Gen Z boys don't really have an outlet for masculinity anymore. And if they do, it's a conservative figure. Right. So because on the liberal side, who are they going to look at? That's a man that's going to teach them about masculinity. All masculinity is toxic. Right. So because on the liberal side, who are they going to look at? That's a man that's going to teach them about masculinity. All masculinity is toxic.

Right. So so that's why that's the theory of why Gen Z boys are leaning conservative now. Well, I think they'll be happier that way. And then at some point, the Gen Z girls will want them because they'll have some tangible real world skill, which women are fucking themselves completely with this. Like, I want a guy who's a chick. Like, OK, good luck fixing that fucking. Well, then, yes, maybe this is the course correcting itself. Yeah.

I mean, somebody look, it'll always correct. Sadly, not for everyone, but it'll it'll correct because it has to correct because that's the way nature flows, you know, and most these ideas are bad ideas. And the bad ideas initially seem popular. And also, if you speak out against bad ideas early, you become very unpopular. as early you become very unpopular well and let's be clear most of the things that are ideas this is the things that you're you and i've been talking about for quite some time but just the very notion of ideas is in distinction to observing reality you know what i'm saying you're saying that if you eventually reality comes to bear because you can just see it and it plays out well ideas just drift out there and away from reality yeah right well they um so

she also credits the me too movement as a key trigger as well saying uh that it gave rise to fiercely feminist values among young women who felt empowered to speak out against long-running injustices. Long-running injustices. Listen, I have a boy and a girl, and there is no difference in their childhood. I would argue that. Would they say that? Yeah, they would say that. The girl, first off, neither one of them would ever want to switch genders.

girl first off neither one of them would ever want to switch genders uh and the girl's out living her best life and has tons of opportunities and you know son's doing his thing and like there isn't this isn't a thing i mean you look like let's let's just let's just break it down which i don't think drew wake up here i need. I need you to focus. I'm here. What are you doing? Just listen to me. Everyone listen to me. All right. And I'm going to break it down. I'm going to tell you first about Jordan Harbinger, and then I'm breaking it down. On the Jordan Harbinger show, you'll hear amazing stories from people that have lived them, from spies to CEOs, even an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're about to hear a preview of the Jordan Harbinger show with Jack Garcia, who did just that.

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Okay, so everyone always talks about this advantage or that advantage. Like, if I have to hear another fucking black person tell me about what it's like to be white and how you have all these things to serve, the world just sort of unfolds in front of you as you jog down the street and stuff. I'm going to fucking vomit my hat. Shut up. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. It's racist.

What you're saying. Yes, you can point to historical events, but you can't tell me that I had some sort of blessed life because of the color of my skin. I had possibly the opposite because I could have been a fireman when I was 19 or 20. But either way, what they never talk about, they talk about women, you know, like the women. All right. Okay. When you're 19, when you're 20, when you're 21, when you're 22, as a young male, you have zero power. Zero. Because you have to work and there is, you have

no credibility in society. You've not gotten a foothold in society yet, you've not made your mark, you've not hung your shingle, with very rare exception. Now, there's events where you could be a 20, 22-year-old dude and you're in med school, or you're going to be a lawyer, your dad's a successful lawyer, but by and large, all the 21-year-old guys I grew up with were powerless at 21 because they had no money and they had no career and they had no belongings of everything was meager. You know, they drove a truck, they had apartments where they had three guys living and people are sleeping on fold out sofas or renting out spare bedrooms and shit like that. You know, I mean, later on, when I, even in my later 20s, when I was living with Cortland and Ralph, you know, we're in a rented house. Ralph is driving his grandmother's Dodge Shadow.

You know, she died and gave him a Dodge Shadow, you know, brown Dodge Shadow with a cloth interior. I'm driving a Zuzu Trooper. There's nothing. Okay. My sister at age 22, 23 was an attractive female. And she had boyfriends that were a little bit older and successful. And they lived in a nice house up in the hills and they traveled and they did things.

You know what I mean? Because she had much more power than I had because she had a commodity. And that commodity is being an attractive female or even just a young female. You can't. There's no version of me at 21 with some successful 40 year old chick it just it doesn't really exist i wish it did it's it's a little bit around these days a little a little bit a little bit but you as a 23 year old dude living with dudes in the valley of dudes you don't have any juice or anything if you're a 23 year old hot chick okay you can get a job as an attractive 23 year old woman or even just a 23 year old woman you can get a job as a cocktail

waitress you can get a job as a bartender you can you're not on a construction site picking up garbage with me right and on the poor Mexicans and digging ditches and shit like that. You get to work indoors. You get to do things that have air conditioning and you get tips and so on and so forth. So don't give me this. You have no power. No, you have all the power for a period of time.

But if you squander it, you will lose it. And now I have the power because I worked my ass off and created a career for myself. So fuck right off. But they're asking for the power to work their ass off and get a career. They want more of that particular route. Well, go ahead. Knock yourself out, bitches. You don't want to do it because it sucks.

You don't want to be on a construction site with me do you ladies you want you we want equality then come down to the job site and have mike stormant scream at you while you're digging ditches all day well fuck off everyone with your fucking inequality and balance and everything fuck yourself jesus christ every guy knew was poor. They all did dangerous. You're just depressing them more, Adam. The jobs we did were fucking dangerous.

It wasn't about serving cocktails or working as a greeter at a restaurant or something. I was underneath condemned apartment buildings and shit. Fuck you. All right, sorry. Well, you say that the course is kind of correcting, and now these girls are going to look for more masculine men but there's also a study or a report that says nearly a third about 28 of gen z adults right now identify as lesbian gay bisexual transgender or queer

yeah but they're just saying that they don't they're really that's not how they act i wonder i'd be interested to know how that breaks down male female let me see do you have that i think a lot more female that's what i would think but i mean like maybe two or three to one they're just but they're they they check that box like somebody asked you if you were for you know if you loved animals or something and you just go yeah i love animals but have you rescued an animal have you do you volunteer at the shelter do you do you make kibble and give it to stray animals like i don't do any of that shit i just love animals i'm checking a box that says i'm an animal lover i don't own any animals i don't do anything for animals i just

want i'm just wondering how that conversation would go with the lesbian box. What else would you be questioning them about? Here's what I would say. The people that identify as bi or whatever, I'll bet you they haven't had a non-heterosexual engagement in over a year. Right. That's what I would say. And currently are not in a gay relationship.

But I'd say they just check the boxes. Now, I do not believe these people. Right. It used to be, listen, dig. Dig. Dig. Dig. If it was possible at a time to get people to deny they were gay or bi because it was unpopular and it may have done some damage to their career or something, then isn't the opposite true? Interesting.

Well, now we're living in a time where you get a pat on the back for being gay or bi so then why wouldn't you lie about it just like your grandfather lied about being gay the other direction yeah right right well yeah he lied about being gay but yeah not being gay so here we go so wouldn't that be a two-way street? I believe so. Okay. So if you were in the United States in the 60s and a Nazi, you might say you weren't a Nazi.

But if you're in Germany in 1942 and you wanted to live, you might say you were a Nazi. So either way, it's whatever the powers that be, whatever the pressures that be, make you lie. Which I believe this is. I was just thinking. And then today, you accused everybody else of being a Nazi, and then you go out with a swastika on your arm and demonstrate for Palestine. That's how we do it now. That's how we roll.

Did you find out with the breakdown? No, it doesn't have it just says gay or lesbian as one. It's all women. As one category. Mostly women. It's mostly women. Yeah, because those boys are conservative. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, it'll correct itself. These are all just shit experiments. You know, we do these stupid experiments. In our day, women would identify as fluid and experimenting, but they wouldn't declare a major. And now, because it's so cool to declare the major, they declare it. Right. Yeah.

They're not having to prove it. Yeah. All right. So pay no attention. Okay. So there's. Okay. Okay.

There is a Finland national carrier, Finnair. Finnair. Finnair finnair finnair and they are uh they are now the next airline that is going to start weighing their passengers good this is a a trend that people are not happy about well it's i guess a certain type of people and they um but the thing is just like all the other airlines are saying look this is voluntary it's anonymous. We're just doing this to just survey. They weigh our luggage. The luggage and the pass.

They want to weigh it all. They want to weigh it all. They have to weigh what is on the aircraft. Yeah. And they have to distribute it across the aircraft a certain way. Right. It's for safety. Drew and I have been on more than one flight but drew and i've

been on a flight where they went someone's got to throw some luggage off this flight yeah we wait too much really oh yeah yeah oh yeah my favorite one is when a guy went out and banged on the engine on a turbo i think it was the same flight smoke smoke poured out of the edge the guys out there banging on the engine and adam says to me he goes i can't think of anything that's going to get fixed on a propeller engine just by banging on it and then it stopped and it started and smoke billowed out was it good news everybody we're going to get going here yeah the funds no they said look anyone can volunteer to take a bag off or we can just open up the hold and take a bag off,

and you'll find out when you get to the other side whose bag it is. Oh, let's go. Let's randomize it, yeah. And there's like 50 people on the flight, and they're like, fucking pull a rando bag off that flight, man. Fingers crossed. And the one with the prop plane with the smoke, was that the one with the Roberto Clemente? Clement, was that the one with Roberto Lamente?

Yeah. I was really freaked out by that flight. I was like, I don't care if you take my bag off this flight because I don't think we're landing. We're not making it. And remember, a storm was blowing in. Yes, I do. Don't worry, we're maneuvering through the storm. maneuvering through the storm around the storm on this prop plane that weighed too much and with smoke coming out of

them fuck it freaked me out yeah this is what happened in the seat in front of us i'm trying i was trying to um find this and i couldn't find it and i looked and looked for it but the guy was reading the newspaper in front of me like USA Today and it was like a made for TV movie like the Roberto Clemente story you know and he was sort of not even looking at the advertisement he was reading an article like on the other page but I was looking at Roberto Clemente who died in a plane crash struck down in his prime in a plane crash. Struck down in his prime. Adam is poking me in the ribs going, Roberto Clemente.

Roberto Clemente. I'm like, what? Roberto Clemente. He points at the paper. I was so close to just like literally standing up and going, I got to get off this flight. Wow. Because there was smoke coming out of the engine.

Smoke. Big smoke. Did I have a problem? A guy was banging on the engine. And then the plane was overweight. And then they said, there's storms blowing into Florida. And we're going to get around them. We're going to go around the storms.

But it's going to be rough to get around these. And then I saw Roberto Clemente and I was like, you know what I was thinking? I was thinking God doesn't physically pick you up and push you out of your seat. He just tells you enough for you to do it.

You know what I mean? And I got enough. He gave you all the signs. I was like, we're there. We've got enough he gave you all the signs like we're there we've got enough for me to get up and get out of this seat right now but i but i would rather but i was too embarrassed i would rather i would rather die than be shamed yeah yeah but that was that was rough man yeah yeah man shit we're leaving from cincinnati as i remember go where were we going somewhere in alabama i think alabama like something like that you made it somewhere that's hilarious all right uh yeah i was that's about as freaked out as i've ever been and there was no there were

no cocktails on the flight either i mean if I'd had a flask or something, I would have just fucking sucked that thing right down. Study or not. Vegas, March 7th for me. Two shows coming up over at Jimmy's theater or club. What do you got, Drew? Sign up to subscribe to the Rumble channel, please, and we'll see you at the streaming show Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday at 3 o'clock. So, until next time,

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