The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1835 WTF is Up with Men?

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

Dr. Drew starts off the week by sharing his upcoming trip to the Legion of Skanks, he recounts the struggles producer Byron went through to live in the Big Apple, and he shares a new discovery he's le...arned from the young producer. This leads them into a conversation of when boys were daring, Adam shares the hand me downs in furniture, and he introduces Drew to 'The Cage'. Please Support Our Sponsors: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp, visit BetterHelp.com/Carolla The Jordan Harbinger Show - Available everywhere you listen to podcasts

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Starting point is 00:00:58 I don't know, I find myself pretty interesting. But yeah, we can have some guests on. Some of our reality TV friends, and some stars. Works for me. Listen to Salty now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the trip.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Get it on. Dr. Drew's board-festering step-servant. Festering. What's going on there, Drew? Yo, buddy. What's going on there, Drisky? Yo, buddy. So, you know, mentioned last week that I'm going to go visit our friends at the Legion of Skanks next Monday.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And in the course that I found out old Byron here was a major important part of the team at Legion of Skanks. And I'd met him before. Yeah. He showed us pictures. And as always, if I don't have a context, I don't remember shit. Right. But I heard more about that history this morning, and I thought you'd be interested in some of it. He showed a little initiative. He was flying back and forth to New York to get the job, move to live on a couch in Hell's Kitchen when he got a job, intern job, not even a paid job and had to find other ways to make a living.
Starting point is 00:02:26 It's very much different than his cohort, you know, that his people his age were not used to saying that kind of initiative, which I was like, wow, wow. And then he began to tell me a story about a competition. I don't know why we got into this competition, but I thought, oh, Adam needs to hear about this. Am I telling the history about right here? Yeah, essentially.
Starting point is 00:02:48 The little competition was a mini game inside of a larger competition. To get the job, yes? Yes. And that was called? The Woke Turn Olympics. Okay. And the specific exercise, the specific task? Otto fellatio.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yes, I've heard this story. You've heard this story. Okay. And so Byron, I guess, has a special talent that we didn't know about, but the skanks unearthed. But I bring it up not to talk about tip to lip. Is that what you call it? Well, that's what they call me now because I went up on stage and I did it in front of the crowd of people. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But the reason I brought it up is don't you just love men? You just go, hey, can you do this? I'll try it. Let me try it. I'll do it. And women look at that and go, what the fuck's the matter with men? That's so weird. And it's all about challenge and overcoming.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And other dudes say, you can't do it. You go, I can do it. No matter how dumb, no matter how crazy, we'll just't do it you go off i can do it no matter how dumb no matter how crazy we'll just let's go do it well we'll try it that's how skyscrapers got built that's how bridges get built right but by guys blowing themselves yes that's what i mean exactly you're blowing each other first i know each other first or that just makes you gay. I could remember spending hours. Well, I shouldn't say hours, but collectively days and weeks and months.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I remember very clearly sort of being out, out behind a movie theater at night in studio city with my friends. And we were, you know, 17 or something. behind a movie theater at night in Studio City with my friends, and we were, you know, 17 or something. And there was like a parking post or something that was about three foot high. And we all stood there to see who could sort of jump onto it and land onto it with like sort of one foot and then balance or whatever. Just literally just standing in some parking lot at 10 o'clock at night for, you know, I don't want to say hours, but for an hour.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And it's usually because some guy says, can you do that? I could do that. But it's on now. It's on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't do it by yourself standing in the parking lot.
Starting point is 00:05:00 You got to have a little. Yeah. No. You might. You might. I might do. Me in my wiring yeah may may have done things like that but um yes everything was sort of a competition and um and there needed to be
Starting point is 00:05:16 consequences as far as the cons as far as far as the competition go my friends stakes something something earned well i say consequences because i not oh if you we didn't play for prize As far as the competition goes, my friends – I mean stakes. Something earned or something. Well, I say consequences because I – not – we didn't play for prize money. We played for pain. You know what I mean? So if you – We had – they would do – I didn't play backgammon. I never – but a few of my friends played backgammon.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Ray and Chris? Ray would play backgammon and had a couple friends. Jax? He played Jax too? They played backgammon and they would hang out up in the hills at a friend's parents' house who had a
Starting point is 00:05:58 swimming pool. So hills means money in that part of the world. Yeah. Money-ish. I mean, it was relative. Yeah, yeah. We had no money. But it was the world. Yeah, money-ish. I mean, it was relative. Yeah, yeah. We had no money. But it was a pool. It was freezing. You would have to break into a club to get the pool.
Starting point is 00:06:10 They had a pool. Yeah, but this was during the winter, and it would be at night during the winter, and the pool was not heated. It was freezing. And they just played backgammon, and whoever lost just had to jump into the pool, fully dressed, you know, into the deep end, you know, because it was painful, you know. So you could play for, you know, cash and prizes, but we didn't have cash or prizes. We had consequences. And so everybody, which is even a greater motivator, really. Sure, sure. It was consequences. So all the stuff we did was consequential. That's how we rolled.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And we had also a kind of a bizarre situation. It wasn't bizarre, but it was maybe a little bit unique and that everybody was almost exactly on the same par sort of athletically which was a high level but the same yeah and so when we would have our wrestling matches on the end of the diving board to see who got thrown into the pool it was pretty much these were draws you know nobody was dominant yeah somebody might win two in a row and then lose two in a row and then go up against the guy they just threw in the pool and now that guy would throw them in the pool it was all very it makes it fun yeah it I mean, you would like to be dominant, but everybody was sort of, there's a lot
Starting point is 00:07:48 of parity. If you were dominant, you'd lose interest. In fact, you're just bullying at that point. Say, eh. Yes. Too easy. We just fought for days. Right. You know, that's all we did. So did you ever hurt yourself doing that?
Starting point is 00:08:03 And I ask for a real specific reason. So anything where you went home and your mom was like, what were you doing? Well, I didn't go home to my mom. But did anything like that? Did you ever – I'm just wondering if your mom knew about this, how she would react to it, if she ever saw it or if there was ever a real serious consequence and you had to explain what you were doing, how she would interpret that. I didn't live with my mom from the time I was about 12 or 13 on.
Starting point is 00:08:29 You were with your dad at that point. Yeah. Yeah. And so then my dad and my stepmom didn't do a lot of welfare checks or anything. You just sort of did what you did. Did your stepmom ever have any kind of like, what the fuck? My mom and dad and step parents. I just wonder how women react, especially of that ilk, of your mom's ilk.
Starting point is 00:08:50 They would never have any idea what I did ever. And I never shared any of it with them. They had no idea where I was or who I was with or what I was doing. They had a kind of a rough idea when I came home, but they would have no clue. And by the way, they didn't want to know what I was up to. It was, it was really, it was a tacit agreement of they weren't, you know, they weren't going to give me any money or, or any, you know, they weren't going to give me anything. But in return, they weren't going to ask any questions.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And so I just ran around. Free range child. Total free range. Yeah, I mean, I would just say, like, I'm sleeping over at Chris's house. And I go, okay. How did your mom and dad meet your stepmom? How did my dad meet my stepmom? And how old were you when they got married? I don't know those stories.
Starting point is 00:09:48 They got married. I was probably 14 or 15. They – I don't know where they met. And they got – they probably met when I was about 12 and a half, maybe 13 or something. Maybe they dated for two years, and then they got married. And that was sort of the move toward normalcy. Right, right. Because she was sane and normal.
Starting point is 00:10:22 She was normal. Because she was sane and normal. She was normal. And my dad wasn't, but he wasn't abnormal. He could do, he would go whatever direction. So he could be gaffed into normalcy pretty easily because he was pliable. Yeah, he wasn't, my dad wasn't really anything. My dad wanted to just hang out and read a book. really anything. My dad wanted to just hang out and read a book. And so if you said to him,
Starting point is 00:10:52 we don't want to live in this A-frame farmhouse with no air conditioning and no heat. I don't want to live in this junker house on literally like a dirt road in North Hollywood. Then he'd go, okay. But it's not like he would go down to the bank and fill out the paperwork and get the loan and finance. You could go ahead, find a realtor, start looking for bank and fill out the paperwork and get the loan and finance you could go ahead find a realtor start looking for houses fill out the paperwork get a loan you know you could go do it and then then he'd be more than happy to move into this farm he wouldn't slightly bigger house he wouldn't be a problem he wouldn't resist no he didn't he didn't have thoughts one way or the other about about or stuff or, you know, whatever. He would just hang out. Did they live in that A-frame for a minute?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Because she had kids. Did they live in there? And that shit all with you guys? I don't think that house was capable of handling another human being. No, I think calling it a shed would not be an overrepresentation. It was about 18 feet by 22 feet slab, and then it just had an A frame. It was probably used as a shed by some farmer or something. Probably used as a shed by some farmer or something.
Starting point is 00:12:15 No, it was a house, you know, weirdly in the valley and a lot of the houses, you know, I grew up in and other houses I rented and stuff like that in the San Fernando Valley. It's kind of interesting. You know, my mom's house was, you know, one bedroom, one bath and 900 square feet, 1,000 square feet. I don't know. Well, the service porch, which turned out to be my room, if you don't include the service porch, the kitchen was like a galley. And service porch, ladies and gentlemen, does not mean like for servants. It means like for gardening equipment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Well, the water heater and the meter and the washing machine, no dryer was in there. But that house is probably about 800 square feet, 900 square feet. And then my dad's house in the valley was 550 square feet. It was just a square with a loft and one tiny bedroom and one bathroom. And my grandparents' house in the valley was – they converted the garage and made it into my grandfather's office. And there was this other sort of breezeway thing that they enclosed. There's something that I added a kitchen on. You know what's interesting?
Starting point is 00:13:21 When they bought that house, it was 500 square feet. And I rented a house not too far away as an adult with a few dudes. It was 650 or 700 square feet. I mean, they—one bath. They built miniature houses with one bathroom, and that was it. But I'm going to say— A lot of it. One of the interesting distinctions—this is, you know, California, Los Angeles history, between the San Gabriel Valley and the San Fernando Valley.
Starting point is 00:13:50 San Gabriel Valley was sort of immediately post-World War II tracks, millions of them for miles. San Fernando Valley was farming for the turn of the century. Yeah. That really is what that was. These were like shelters. They weren't houses. Farm workers. Part of the year. Yeah. That really is what that was. These were like shelters. They weren't houses. Farm workers. Part of the year, probably.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Not even all year long. There wasn't even a sense of having a home. It was like, you need a bathroom. There was a bathroom. A. My grandparents' house, one bathroom. My mom's house, one bathroom. My dad's house, one bathroom. My mom's house, one bathroom.
Starting point is 00:14:26 My dad's house, one bathroom. And the kitchen was a sink and like an oven. And you go, here's where you plug in the refrigerator. It was the old west. It was really the old west. I mean, think about it. It was the old west with electricity. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:41 There was no anything else. And there was no like, nobody was ever like, I want to pick out nice tile or something. There wasn't anything. There was just what was there. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. We didn't paint.
Starting point is 00:14:52 We didn't do anything. You didn't pave. There was dirt roads out there then. Yeah. My dad's house in North Hollywood was literally dirt. But the roads stayed dirt until 1980s? And by the way, whatever the temperature was outside, that was the temperature inside. It was cold.
Starting point is 00:15:10 It was cold. It was hot. It was hot. Didn't they have eventually sort of the sump thing, that kind of thing? My dad bought – all right. I'll let you do your spot. I'll tell you. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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Starting point is 00:16:46 Wow. So it was a box. It was a sheet metal box that had casters on it, rollers. And the box was 24 inches wide and 18 inches deep and three foot high. Yeah. And with wood grain, you know. And it had a drawer in the bottom of it and you'd fill it with water.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And if you're really gilding the lily, you'd undo a couple of ice racks into it, trays into it. And then it had a squirrel fan on top of it. And then we would just sit on this sofa, which was like horse hair, itchy as fucking soap because nobody had ever bought a piece of furniture either.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I've never witnessed one of my family members purchase. It was unthinkable to buy a sofa. It's just this old shitty sofa and shit would just get passed along. It would just get passed along. My mom's sofas were shit she found on the street. She would tuck sheets and she would cover them with sheets. And it wasn't even a discussion of buying a new sofa. You just sit on this horsehair, saggy, itchy ass sofa,
Starting point is 00:17:52 and then you'd take the swamp cooler and you'd position it next to you and you just blow this air while you just sat there. It was 95 degrees outside. It was 89 inside, but you had the swamp cooler. But then once I went up to the loft, it would be 102 degrees. I couldn't. I was so fucking hot up there. Were you going to sleep? I couldn't get the swamp cooler up the stairs to the loft. The loft, you know, just mini little stairs like off the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It was rural, rustic living. None of the three houses had a shower. They had bathtubs. People didn't take showers. Did you have a handle that you could lift up or something? My grandmother had a tub with a handle, a shower handle, that she put in later. My mom's house and my dad's house didn't have showers because nobody-
Starting point is 00:18:51 How often would you take a bath? Nobody would take a shower back in the day. They took baths. How often would you do that? I almost never- So you had shit in your ear, then Ray slammed into your ear. No, no. That was it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 My dad, that house had a shower. Okay. One shower. Okay. That was the more modern-y kind of 50s, 60s house. Yeah. That's where he moved with your stepmom. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Okay. Yes. I suspect my stepmom sort of spearheaded the, we're not going to get married and live in this shack. And your son's not going to be from the jungle book, like living with the bear. He's going to have to take a shower. I would shower with the hose outside sometimes. If I was ever in a swimming pool, that counted as a shower.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Everything counted as a shower. I may have had a shower at school or at the beach or something. I didn't shower very often or take baths. Thankfully, you were like 16. God, you can imagine how you stunk. I never really had a BO thing. I just didn't. So the two things that made you shower is your hair and a BO.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And I did not suffer from greasy hair or BO. I never had that. So never was I never had any reason to shower were you playing football in the era in which they didn't shower in the locker room or did you guys shower we would shower on occasion um the problem is is oftentimes if we were in there um Ray would start Ray would grab a bar of soap and then he would stand at the entrance of the shower and he would wing the bar of soap and and the bar of soap can fucking do damage and especially when a 230 pound guy really chucked it and ray didn't he wasn't going under him chucking it so we would all h huddle in the corner trying to push the other person to the outer perimeter of the huddle so they would get hit by the soap.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And then there was another time. The title of this episode is What the Fuck is Up with Matt? There was another time when he busted a shampoo bottle top and it broke in such a way that it was jagged at the top and he was ramming everyone in the ass with this jagged shampoo bottle we all had to huddle again and at some point then he'd call you gay for gathering together no no at some point mr nielsen uh the head coach he just kind of walked in and he just saw everyone piled in a corner of rice swinging around a shampoo bottle. And he just kind of looked at everyone and just went, knock it off. And he just left.
Starting point is 00:21:37 He was probably disgusted. Somebody ever does a movie about the 90s? I urge you to interview some of these people that really lived it. The 90s? Was it the 80s then? Yeah, it was the early 80s. Oh, jeez. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I never saw that in the 80s. Well, then we would lock people in the cage and then pee on them from on top of the locker. The cage thing was really diabolical. There was a cage. Was it a batting cage or was it a cage for equipment? It was a cage made of thick grade fencing, security fencing. No, not like that right to left. Like the kind of stuff where they –
Starting point is 00:22:25 Like strips kind of through the – It looked like regular fencing, but everything was just thicker, much thicker and smaller. It's like what they put on the windows of every high school and junior high I was in. And it was like a cladding. adding anyway the cage separated the varsity football team's lockers from the rest of just gym class i guess because i guess ostensibly there would have been helmets and equipment yeah stuff of some value in there so there was a sort of general pop locker room. This is North Hollywood High built in 1927 or something. Everything was old, right? And it had the benches and everything.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And then there was a cage. Now, the cage was just in one end. And the cage was about 12, 14 feet deep and as wide as the locker room, maybe 30 feet wide. And it had freestanding lockers in it for the varsity. Probably only about 30 lockers or something like that for the varsity team. So you'd enter the cage to go to – Through a door. Through a door, like a cage door kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah, it looked like a – it would be like a holding facility in a – A prison. Yeah. Jail. Yeah, it was like – Border, border facility. If you were like transferring, you know, moving prisoners or something... North Hollywood High is guilty of kids in cages.
Starting point is 00:23:51 You'd tell them to go back there and stay in the cage while we got the paperwork together or something like that. So it was... Holding tank. It was a cage. And the ceiling was high. Now, I don't know why... In the cage? The whole place. Would the cage go to the ceiling was high. Now, I don't know why. In the cage?
Starting point is 00:24:07 The whole place. Would the cage go to the ceiling? Well, like, you remember, you went to a different high school. But every public high school, junior high, I went to. Like, when you'd go into the bathroom, the ceiling was like 14 feet high. I went to public school for a while. I don't know why you needed a 14-foot high ceiling. But everything was just hot. Again, back to male behavior.
Starting point is 00:24:27 What I remember at that high ceiling is dudes would take out their dookie and throw it to the highest point on the wall so the staff couldn't get to it. Oh, there was some of that. Yeah. So the fucking – all right. Emmy, they did this at your high school too, right? Emmy, come on. Emmy, it's not just us. Come on. All right. Let me finish the cage talk. all right. Emmy, they did this at your high school too, right? Emmy, come on. It's not Emmy. It's not just us. Come on.
Starting point is 00:24:46 All right. Let me finish the cage talk. All right. First, let me tell you about my friend Jordan Harbinger. You're about to hear a preview of the Jordan Harbinger show with iconic musician and producer Moby. It's a super real conversation about fame and mental health. Moby was really open on this one.
Starting point is 00:25:01 My first punk rock show was to an audience of one dog, and my first electronic music show was to Miles Davis. 1999, I thought that my career had ended. My mom had died of cancer. I was battling substance abuse problems. I was battling panic attacks. I'd lost my record deal. And I was making this one last album.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And I was like, okay, I'll make this album. I'll put it out. I'll move back to Connecticut. I'll get a job teaching philosophy at some community college. And then all of a sudden, the world embraced me. I handled fame and wealth really disastrously. It was so humiliating. I wouldn't trade any of it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 For more from Moby, including how he bounced back from a 400 drink per month booze habit, check out episode 196 of the Jordan Harbinger Show. Okay. So Florida ceiling went the cage. There's one door in, one door out. The ceiling was 16 feet high. The lockers were just freestanding. And they went against the back wall. You could walk in front of them and you could walk in between them. And they were about six, seven feet high and they were just freestanding. They were double-sided.
Starting point is 00:26:19 There was a locker on one side, locker on the other side. And you'd go into the cage, turn to the left, go down a couple aisles and walk in to lock. And the lockers were about 10 feet deep or 10 feet into the wall. And they were like three foot wide on the top. But they're only like six or seven feet high. So one could get up top and stand on the locker. Before your head hit the cage. Why would your head hit the cage?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Didn't the cage have a top to it? I think you said it went all the way around, like so people couldn't get in, climb in to There's a ceiling. True. It went to the ceiling. Okay. Got it.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I said the cage went all the way to the ceiling, and the ceiling was like 16 feet tall. Got it. I was picturing something different. I know, but why do you do that? I feel like this is pretty clean. We're just caging off this section of the locker room. I get what you're saying. We just need a fence.
Starting point is 00:27:19 If you remember, I said kids in cages. I said holding tanks, and I've seen those, and they go all the way around. So I pictured that. Yeah, if you're doing it in a sort of freestanding area. Yeah, so that's where my head was. It was in that. Get your head out of there. The fucking cage went from the floor to the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Got it. The ceiling was 16 foot tall, and it was at the end of the locker room. Got it. And that was it. Yeah. And that was it. Yeah. And the cage had a fucking doorknob or a handle on the doorknob that broke off and nobody ever fixed it.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And everyone knew, do not shut the cage door because if you shut the cage door, then you have to go to Mr. Walter or whoever's office and get like needle nose pliers and reach in and turn it with that vice grips or something. They kept the vice. They never fixed it. The solution was I got some pliers from Auto Shop and I'll keep them on my desk. Yeah. And if anyone ever gets locked in there, we'll just go get them with that. Yeah. So we would line,
Starting point is 00:28:25 we would get, our friends would get up on top of the lockers. You're Chris and Ray. Yeah. I probably did it. Trying to think. They'd get up on there. Now remember,
Starting point is 00:28:37 if you're on the locker, you could hop from one locker to the next set of lockers to the next set of lockers. They're spread out about five feet. Got it.
Starting point is 00:28:45 But an athletic person who had will could easily just sort of hop from one to the next to the next. Once we threw somebody into that cage and slammed the door behind them, there was no escape because you didn't have vice grips or pliers. And no one was going to go get them either. And if you were up on top of the lockers and you wanted to pee on the person that was trapped below, there was nowhere in the cage you could go to escape because you just jumped to the next locker and you'd always just be looking down.
Starting point is 00:29:23 You couldn't go in front. You couldn't go in between down you couldn't go in front you couldn't go in between you couldn't go anywhere just like somebody having scaffolding above you and you can't escape from the cage was there some limit to the number of people that the lockers could handle where you guys or could three or four of you get up there at the same time uh it was as i recall it was kind of a one man one man deal show and also you didn't want to get anywhere near that cage either because it could easily turn. Easily. Easily turn on you.
Starting point is 00:29:55 The mob goes the other way. Yes, yes. There's no way you would be in there as a supervisor or something like someone else was getting peed on. supervisor or something like someone else was getting peed on and there's nothing you could do once you're down on the ground because obviously they've got someone standing up about six seven feet above you you can't get to them and how many targets could one machine gun pull destroy and i imagine we saw a bit of uh i don't think we'd throw in more than one person at a time. Okay. You put one up on top and one in the cage kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Usually, yeah. And would you see Spandau Ballet response to the P? You know what Spandau Ballet is? No. It's a band named after what the Allied soldiers looked like caught in barbed wire when the German machine guns opened fire on them. Oh. It was called Spandau Ballet. I thought they were named after Spandau, but –
Starting point is 00:30:53 Spandau Ballet. Oh. It's a horrible, horrible allusion. Yeah, it is. Yeah, well – I'm wondering if your victims manifested a little Spandau Parley as they tried to get out from under it. They just did whatever they could do. But it just wouldn't work because you have the higher ground.
Starting point is 00:31:13 How did it end? How would it ever end? Well, someone run out of piss eventually. But I mean, you couldn't come down because now that guy's going to kick the shit out of you. No? You couldn't come down off the lockers? Yeah kick the shit out of you no you couldn't come down off the locker yeah until you got him out of the cage right no no there's nothing they couldn't do anything those guys they couldn't there were alphas you wouldn't get it i get it you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:31:36 be able the whole thing is predicated on you couldn't beat them up i see you can do anything i see it was the guys that were the that were the – what do you call them? The top of the food chain? Yeah. They're apex predators. Apex predators. There was a couple – there was probably a couple of guys who we wouldn't throw in there or couldn't, but not really. I mean, that was kind of the – kind of the top of the food chain. And because this is where you guys change your equipment and clothes and stuff,
Starting point is 00:32:08 I imagine you just ran in there and ran out as fast as you could after practice. Or maybe you even avoided it and bring your equipment home. Or how did that work? I don't – I remember there was always a threat when you were in the cage. I get it. Because all someone had to do was slam the cage door and you couldn't get out. Yeah. So that was always an issue.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Would you have buddies? Would you partner up to a little bit of a... Ray and Chris didn't play my senior year. They both got sort of on probation or something. Things settled down a little bit. I didn't have to deal with it. I only had to deal with it my junior year. Was it just Chris and Ray that were doing this stuff
Starting point is 00:32:50 or there was a whole cohort of Apex Predators, say, your senior year? No, it was just us. There wasn't anybody else who would do this. No one was – who else would do this? Nobody else would do this. I don't know who else would do this. I'm titling this episode what what's up with men what and uh you know this is stuff women look at and just go what
Starting point is 00:33:11 how is this possible we needed there needed to be stakes and consequences and we didn't have money to gamble with no video games no video games we didn't have video games. We didn't even have food. We couldn't barter. The bartering was pain. You know what I mean? Yes. That's all we had. All right. I'm going to be in Vegas, by the way, doing two shows at Kimmel's Club.
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