The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1843 Porn Jam

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

Chris jumps into the studio with Adam, as Drew wraps the week up in Las Vegas, they begin by getting Dr. Drew's take on Adam's retinal age scanner idea, Adam shares his interests in vintage porn and the payouts for the classic pornstars. Plus, the guys are blinded by Ace's accuracy, and what happened at the batting cage? Please Support Our Sponsor: MagicSpoon.com/ADS, use code: ADS

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Get it on, get it on, get it on. Oh! With a wheeze, woo, wheeze. Yeah, Dr. Drew over there in Las Vegas. Chris McSpadden Studios brought some stories, some headlines. Yeah, well, we talked about this on ACS about Texas banning Pornhub because of the age, how easy it is to get through age verification. And actually, Adam suggested that they come up with a technology that takes a scan of

your retina. Can you tell your age by the retina, Drew? Not that I'm aware of, but I wouldn't know that if it were available. In other words, it's possible. Maybe the arteries, maybe the arteries in the retina. Well, yeah, I'm not thinking about, I'm thinking about the aging process.

Yeah, yeah. And how that affects the eyes and, you know, when you. Or maybe just like the lens you know how the lens the lenses age very systematically so maybe there's something about the lens that they could see they got newborns eyes and joe biden's eyes you know they're not going to be the same they're not going to be the same but can we do a 14 and an 18 year old that's the question that's the question right so they're trying to figure out this verification. Like I heard in North Carolina, you actually have to take a picture of your face while holding your

government-issued ID next to it, and then they would put you in like some sort of database, but now they're saying, well, now you have privacy issues. Right. So they're still trying to figure out how to do this, so right now, unless you have a, you can find a way to get a VPN, no porn hub in Texas. Well, hold on now. How dare you? Any dates in Texas coming up.

Let's really think about this. I don't know what anyone else's porn jam is, but I'm sort of like with porn, sort of like I am with music. I tend to like the stuff, I listen to The Pretenders, First Alm or something, or Joe Jackson's First or Second Alm, or Elvis Costello, or Graham Parker.

I tend to like, I like- During your formative years. I don't listen to a lot of new stuff. You know what I mean? And most the time, when I turn on Saturday Night Live and I see the act, the music book, I'm like, it's just rappers pointing at the fucking ceiling the whole time.

He doesn't know he's talking, he's mumble rapping. There is some bitch who plays a cello behind him, which is kind of interesting, but she's doing all the work. He's not really doing anything. She's not getting any camera time. He's wearing dark glasses and not really moving or any. I don't get the kids stuff. Okay, all right.

All right, so I tend to look at old school porn, like vintage stuff, the stuff that was around when I was in junior high and high school, but I couldn't get my hands on it. I didn't have, we didn't have a VCR, we didn't have cable, we didn't have a projector, we didn't have anything. The new stuff, I find to be like the new music. Like it's a little annoying.

Too many tattoos, chicks are too aggressive, they're like doing a lot of spitting and stuff, you know what I mean? Like I feel the same way about the music, it's off-putting. So I tend to look at old stuff, you know, like I grew up with Christie Canyon for Christ's sake, you know what I mean? That's vintage to me.

But a lot of- That's real deal stuff. A lot of the stuff just from the of this school a lot of stuff just from the 70s sometimes from the 60s sometimes just like like people go Oh you why would you watch departure family? It's like I did because that's how we lived in the 70s and I'm interested in how we lived and and so and so Like a time traveler. Yeah, I like, now here's the question.

I don't wanna see like old timey 1930s, you know, sailors and women who are flappers and stuff like that. I go, also there's a, okay, let me say this. There's also to me a sweet spot for women, there's a sweet spot for architecture, architecture, there's a sweet spot for car design. You don't wanna drive a car from the 80s, do you? Is there any car you wanna drive from the 80s?

There's no car you wanna drive from the 80s. Dots of B210. You don't wanna drive a car from the 80s, do you? Is there any car you wanna drive from the 80s? There's no car you wanna drive from the 80s. Dots of B210. You don't wanna drive anything from the 80s. I'm good. Right. But you might like to have a car from the 60s. You know what I mean? Because that was just a better era.

Yes. And you don't want any architecture from the 70s or the 80s, but you might like some from the teens or the 20s or the 80s, but you might like some from the teens or the 20s or the 40s. You know, it was a better era, or you might like brand new architecture, which is pretty nice now.

But anyway, they're kind of sweet spots, you know? And when you go back to me, the sweet spot for women, oh, Emmy, you're gonna have to find this. Happily. Your Jenna Jameson was your thing, wasn't it? No, she was too late. That's too new, yeah.

Too new, too new. The sweet spot is if you find, is it Kylie Gerber, is it Cindy Crawford's daughter? That's her daughter, yeah. Kylie Gerber is is it Cindy Crawford's daughter? Kylie Gerber is in a new Hulu series about some country club from the 60s, like 1969, right? Kaya, sorry. Kaya, and they do her up in vintage 1969 woman,

bam, that's what it is. And when you take a look at that, to me that's the sweet spot of the fashion and the hair and the whatever. Later on they start getting pixie haircuts and they got too skinny and it just, you know, there's sweet spots is what I'm saying. So now back to the porn.

The porn is these women that shot these vintage porns who obviously wasn't vintage in 1973 or 76 or 69 or whatever the hell they shot it, what were their expectations? I mean, you have to really they shot it. What were their expectations? I mean, you have to really think about it. It's 1970, right? It's on film, right? Right.

It's 1970, you're a 22 year old college student, part-time college student or woman, like you may be not even a porn star, or maybe you're a porn star and that you dabbled in it for three years and you made seven films or something. But what were your expectations in 1971? Well, you got $150 a day or whatever, some amount. You know what I mean?

You weren't, there was no, well, you're cut into the back end. That was the name of the movie, but you weren't, you didn't receive any of the back end, or maybe you did. But the point is, is you're not doing profit sharing. Right, there are no deals. There's no deals, there's no deals, right? I mean, what is it in 1972?

Is it $150, is it $80? It's too new to figure 1972? Is it $150? Is it $80? It's too new to figure out. Is it $200? Whatever it is, it's enough to, you know, buy a few bags of groceries, fill up your tank on your Buick, and maybe go out and see a movie and have dinner that night with your real boyfriend or something, right? Palm Royale, yeah, that's the show I'm trying to think of. All right, and I don't know, like,

Amy and Byron, you gotta look. And maybe it's not even out there, but, yeah, this is pretty good. There's probably some better shots, but yeah, 1960s hair, makeup, outfits, colors, like that to me was just women at their sexiest, fine. I didn't like 1980s shoulder pads and whatever leopard print and it just went like architecture, like automotive design.

You know, it wasn't a good era, you know what I mean? So if you're gonna look at porn, why don't you go to a good good era you know what I mean so if you're gonna look at porn why don't you go go to a good era all right well but hold on yeah so amy you gotta look I and now I wouldn't say average payment compensation for a porn star because I don't even know there there weren't many porn stars in the set because Seca probably commanded something star yeah or well I'm thinking about love what's her love lace mm-hmm what's her name Linda Lovelace well Linda Lovelace I don't think was even that she was in deep throat I don't even know if that she was in Deep Throat.

I don't even know if she was a porn star. She just did Deep Throat and it made her a star, but she still probably got 150 bucks. Yes, yes. Oh, well, she was all throughout the movie, so maybe she got paid more. I don't know. What did Linda Lovelace get paid for Deep Throat?

But what was it, an average payment for a scene? They do a nine minute scene or a 12 minute scene or something. Anyway, it was 100 bucks or 200 bucks. But what was the expectation in 1972? Well, the expectation had to be that this is filmed and it may show up in a movie house Like pussycat theater or some you know, some of them were starting to get played in regular theaters in the late 70s

Well, there was a cultural phenomenon Probably more like in New York Happy Hooker Happy Hooker got played in, that was a theatrical release. But I don't know that that was a porn, rated X straight away porn film. We'd have to look it up. All right, anyway, stop shitting on my point and let me finish what I'm saying.

I said, Drew, when you shot an 11 or 12 minute boy, girl, real, what was your expectation? Not doing a large movie that had a premiere. That's why I couched it that way, Drew. Got it, got it. So anyway, you would shoot this, scenes, women, they would do like multiple scenes. They didn't, most of them, a lot of them didn't do whole movies, you know, it sounds like a scene scene it was like nine minutes or 12 minutes or something Alright, what was your expectation? What could you expect through? In terms of the money or in terms of what would happen as a result. I think we established a money part Yeah, the second one not asking about the money because we kept talking about that when we established it. You know, I think some of it, well,

I think some of it was a way probably not to do prostitution and it still makes sense. What was your expectations? I'm not asking what motivated you. I'm asking a straightforward question. What was your expectation? They just get paid and that'd be that. It's a one-off.

Yeah. Right. But you, listen, you had to have some expectations. Someone is gonna see that. Someone might see it, maybe a person you had to have some expectations some someone is gonna someone might see it Maybe a person I want to high someone is going to see it who? Where would it be shown? All right, Drew's that I thought Only derailing thoughts I'm trying to read your mind

What would you just tell us just tell it a little little shop somewhere in 42nd Street? And that's a guy if you really just talk about the real Yeah, maybe Maybe someone could buy a stag film I guess I could buy a real you know have to have a real and you could buy a canister of this film Right super eight or something. But it's a lot different than today, right? If, like, if I... Oh, please. Oh, Jesus Christ.

My gosh, the distribution of porn now, if you're even in the background of a porn... Well, so now, you had to go somewhere. You had to go to a theater or go to a shop. So what were your expectations? Well, your expectations is maybe this will show up somewhere, but my family's in Nebraska. Life can go on. Life will go on, and then maybe I'll make a few, maybe I'll make a few films for a brief period of time,

and then maybe I'll get married and have some kids, and the guy will work for Lockheed or something, and this will be my little sort of past or secret or something and this will be my little sort of past or secret or something like that. Linda Lovelace was paid $1,250 for Deep Throat which she says was stolen by her ex-husband. Ah, brutal. Now, I don't know, Deep Throat has probably grossed

$75 million or $200 million like over the years. Oh, $600 million, so I said, but she got 12. But also, she was all over that film. Like she had several scenes in it, and I may have been a name before it. I don't know it. So it stands to reason, and Deep Throne is like 74, two, something, anyway.

It stands to reason that the woman I'm speaking about got paid a hundred bucks or 150 bucks. That was it, one off, and maybe didn't tell anybody in her face, probably didn't tell anybody except for her female friend or something like that. God of an ear ill disease moved on, you know what I mean? Well, she could have never envisioned a world where every human being would have a device in the palm of their hand. And not only me, but every nine-year-old or whomever just has a device that we could go watch them have sex. Now, they may be in their 70s now. They may have found Jesus Christ. They may be married to a guy who, you know, former Marine who

had no idea about anything ever, but now it's in the phone. And there's just no possible way that anyone had a vivid enough imagination to even think that this could be a thing. Now we've not figured out a way to compensate them in any way. It's just there. And I mean, if you go down the rabbit hole of like 60s, 70s, and you got to figure out what a, they call it a loop, Emmy, you got to figure out what they got paid, 70s, and you gotta figure out what a, they call it a loop, Emmy. You gotta figure out what they got paid, a porn, not for a movie, but for just a scene like in 1970.

A loop. A loop, they call it. You can go back and you can look up these loops and there'll be websites that'll be like oh you went 1960s you know this one here's here's what you're looking for and if you look for that one it'll it'll curate it and send you know you might you like that you might like this you know there's an algorithm yeah there's no hiding from it your your current husband can find you so So I think Corolla's going to tell us something.

I know. Was there something in 72 you want to tell us about? Listen, the gay movement was mostly underground back then, and we didn't speak openly. You were a freedom fighter. You were. Oh, fuck that with Lance Bass and his purple hair fucking preening everywhere. We kept everything on the down look. And couldn't have imagined the present day

where it could be found. I'm just saying, obviously you're doing it now. You got your webcam on, you're doing whatever the fuck you're doing. Whatever you're doing now, you're 100% aware of where this is and where it lives and so on and so forth, right? 100%.

Yeah. When you were 19 and 1971, and you went to some fucking apartment, I asked Christy Canyon when I was interviewing her, I said, what was the first porn you did? Like what was that like? What was the first one? And she said, oh, I'll paraphrase,

but she's like, I went to this place in Van Nuys and I thought we were doing a photo shoot. Oh, like I thought it was gonna be me and a dude doing a photo thing, which could get pretty graphic, but that's what I thought we were doing. I didn't know we were making a film. Wow. Right, but she got paid 400 bucks, whatever.

Late 60s, early 70s performers were paid 75 to 100 on average and 150 for women to do a loop. Does anyone marvel at me all the time when I go, I don't know, 150 bucks, 150 bucks? I do. I'm desensitized. You understand, you understand that we had, okay, hold on, you understand that we had, yeah, Chris is so desensitized, he never says anything.

You understand we had, listen to me, you understand we had Mitch Blood Green in here? Hell yeah. blood green in here. Yeah. Mitch blood green, heavyweight contender, and he said to me, guess how much I got paid to fight Tyson the first time? Guess how much? Of all the numbers. The first time I fought Tyson once, guess how much I got paid? I said 30 grand and he went that's right and then we moved on and then we moved on. That's the part I love the best. Remember the batting cage thing? Oh yeah. What? Yeah. Let me do a spot then you'll tell the bad and cage story. Not 50 grand, not 25 grand, not 100 grand, just 30. And he said, that's right.

Anyway, he didn't get paid 35 either. We just got paid 30. On the dot. On the dot, and we moved on. And he didn't care, Chris didn't care, and his manager didn't care. Nobody cared, just me. Just me.

30! Just me. Just me. 30. 30. They've been blinded by the accuracy. They can't care anymore. I've said about three times, maybe 150 grand for doing one of these things. Yes you did. Yes you did. Anyway, let me tell you about Magic Spoon.

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Guess how much I got? Yeah, well, we know it's low. $10 million. Right. We know it's low. Yeah. All right. Don't undersell yourself.

It was a good guess. No, no, you got to read people. The Batting Cage one, though, don't undersell yourself. It was a good guess People the batting cage one that was out of the blue I'm gonna fuck up the story, but it was a sensual woman telling a story about her boyfriend Or I forget exactly what the story was. Can you remember Adam? I all I remember is that says Adam starts the story You know, look I said we had some girl call in She said her boyfriend was a loser. You know, that was about all she said.

He was abusive or he was whatever. And I go, look, just dump this guy. He he's you know, he's an idiot. He probably works in a batting cage, you know, and she goes, he does work. No, she knows. I know I remember it a little different. I remember that she was talking about somebody else and then she wove in this boyfriend

and you said something like, what's the boyfriend? Do you work at a batty cage or something? And she moved past it before we went back and went, what does he do? He works at a batty cage. Yeah, she moved us. Amazing. As impressed as Chris was with my $30,000 guess.

But it was interesting when people are in their own head. Her boyfriend was- Women especially. Well, women and children, sorry, women and children. Women and children. Right, they get their own head. When her boyfriend works at the batting cage, that's her reality. It's what you're supposed to know.

That's just what it, so when he said, well, get him out of the batting cage, you know, job, and she didn't even, didn't take a beat, she just kept on going. And we sort of went back and went, what does your boyfriend do? And he's like, oh, he works at the batting cage. Yeah.

We were like, what? Yeah, I forgot about that. We talked about that already, moving on. No, that's how, but that's how kids think. Yeah. Right? Yeah. All right.

So- That was an attack on you and me, just you know. You got 150 grand and, sorry, $150, and you expected this thing to make the rounds maybe somewhere in New York City or Los Angeles or something, but it would never get back to Indiana, you know, where you're from. And then dustbin of history.

Like, I mean, like some old, I don't know, no more than an old wedding photo album that you had that's resurfacing and having all America see it or something, like it's in a closet somewhere underneath some books, you know what I mean? So the fact that then these things are curated and online and anybody you meet or have a relationship with or potential employer or anything, it's all there.

It's just all there. And you'll never be compensated for it. And the compensation you got was probably gone in two days. Oh, who knows? Maybe just bought drugs with it. It was gone that night. But it's pretty, pretty nuts, right? Yeah, porn stars today should take advantage of this.

If this is your side hustle, move to Texas, get an actual job, nobody's gonna know. Ooh, that's right. No one's gonna know. And is it just PornHub or all? Any website that's 51% or more porn Oh They're just gonna

Yeah, just fluff it out with other things. Yeah. Well, I mean look that's how business works Yeah, business finds a way. Yeah, they're gonna find you know what I mean. They're all Whenever we talked to Felipe Sparza about the half finished buildings in Mexico, he says, I don't have to pay taxes. So they put a roof on. All right, well then no roof. What do you think about the government getting involved with TikTok? I mean, they just passed, the house just passed that bill. It's like 352 to 65. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. So then Biden said, if it comes in front of me, I'm going to sign it. So unless, unless ByteDance who owns TikTok sells its company or its stake, so it's not incorporated with China and our information doesn't get out to China, then they will ban

TikTok in the United States. They should be more worried about what the, how China is manipulating the young brains of America more than the information. I agree, but that's not what they're focusing on. And maybe this is just an excuse to get to that point because there's no way they can legislate some sort of bill that would affect the brain molding of young kids. The interesting question is where is everybody going to go? Are they going to go to Reels? Are they gonna go to Reels? Are they gonna go to Snapchat? Where's it gonna go? Well, you know, they think TikTok's gonna sell. And actually, Steve Mnuchin said that he's putting together an investor group to buy TikTok.

But what are they gonna buy? You know what I mean? They're not gonna give them their algorithms and codes and stuff. They're gonna buy the videos that are pre-executed. I just don't know why people wouldn't migrate to somewhere else. I don't know why people wouldn't migrate to somewhere else. I don't know. It's already established. I mean, you just want to buy it. I don't know. It's like saying why sell Twitter? And why not just go somewhere else? No, no, no, no. I think this is

going to be a very different... I don't think China is going to give up a lot of the things they would need for it to be the TikTok you're looking at. Well, but remember, it's not China that owns it. It's ByteDance, right? And that they just happen to be in China. So unless they sell it, unless they, I know, I know they are definitely involved with the change. But unless they sell it, then they're going to be banned from the US. So they're going to lose a ton of money, information, whatever. So I don't care other than So I don't care other than We are definitely playing into the hands of these foreign entities who like us Squabbling about everything all day every day

Not even just like us. They may be influencing it. Yeah Well when I say like us I do mean okay, I'm sorry I should should say, yes. It's a benefit to them, and whatever they can do to exacerbate it, then they will. And we don't care, and that's the problem. So the game is, we already did it. We talked about Russian collusion and Trump being a cat's paw of Putin and being in Putin's hip pocket for a long time, and then somebody found out that most all

of the information or disinformation or ads bought by Russia were race-based, not about Hillary Clinton, not about Trump, but racial agitation things. So then we figured it out. And then we knew it. We went, oh, they're trying to fuck us up and start, look, if you're China or you're Russia, and it's, you know, we're having our Black Lives Matter protests and half the cities are on fire and the

cops are fighting with people in the streets and people are looting. That's good for them. Yeah. It's just more chaos. I mean, more chaos for their enemy, right? And the way they work is they wouldn't really care if there was a forest fire or a pandemic or a race riot, just whatever, just something that occupies and destroys, right? And so we know they're doing that and we found out, and then we went right back to Russian collusion and Trump. That's all we did, we found out,

and then we went right back. And obviously they're spoon feeding us all this shit. Once brainwashed, brainwashed. Right, and then 10 cent heads like Biden have to make every speech and talk about white supremacy being the biggest danger this country faces and then he'll get the FBI to go find it under every rock and now it has come to fruition.

Now it's actually, it is. So there's a thing that didn't really exist, white supremacy, the Nazi movement, the KKK and all this kind of stuff, black man, you know, and then you start hearing people like they go like, you know what it's like being black in the United States in 2024? It's like, I don't know, tell me, tell me what it's like. You get a job before I get a job, before my son gets a job. I don't know. What are we talking about? What regulations are we talking about? What rules? Oh, systemic. Good. Find me the systemic racism.

Where is it? Where is it written? What is going on? I saw a chart from the Washington Museum of Washington, D.C. They just go and go and go. And we play right the fuck into their hand. And they love fucking useful idiots like Kamala Harris and Biden and then they get up there and also the useful idiots the useful idiots at CNN when they're trying to do a presidential debate and it's Biden and

Trump up there and Trump's going China your sons going. Your son's picking up money from corrupt China. And the bitch who's running the debates, like, we need to talk about race, sir. Can we get back to race, sir? And he's frowning off about China. And this useful idiot bitch is going, China, let's get back to arguing about race. Meanwhile, people in China are just watching and laughing. Right. And then when we get on them about misconduct, mistreatment of their citizens, they go, weegers. They go, what about you? You got big problems with race. No, we don't. It's

created. Just like the idiot from CNN yelling, can we get back to talking about race? Jesus fucking Christ. And then we do this stupid thing where like, will you commit to not, will you say you're not in the Klan? Will you denounce the Klan? Denounce the Klan. You must denounce the Klan.

Can you do that? And cervical cancer. I want you to denounce the Klan and cervical cancer and rabid badgers. What else can I think of for you to denounce? Like, then we bind our own, the fucking, it's all fucking, it's all Dumbo, Biden and CNN and all these fucking idiots who are like,

look, let's not waste precious debate time getting Trump to denounce the claim. Right. Let's not do that. And let's not have a stupid race argument here. By the way, woman of color who presides over this debate, have we come far enough? Because it used to be a white guy. Jesus Christ. We're so fucking dumb.

It was so fucking dumb we play right into it. We don dumb. We play right in don't even realize We don't even realize it and all the useful idiots out there. They're so fucking scared to step up and say anything about anything That's what perpetuates it. All right, Drew I'm done with you. I'm tired. All right, stand up. I'm blinded by the brilliance I'm unamused $150 for a porn up. I'm blinded by the brilliance. I'm unamused. One hundred and fifty dollars for a porn loop. I'm in. All right. Is this tonight? Tomorrow night? Got shows. Yeah. West Palm Beach at the Kennel Club and then Vegas and Vegas, Chicago, Salt Lake City, everywhere.

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