The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1877 Kick the Hand Out

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

Dr. Drew kicks off the week by noticing an evolution in the Aceman, then Adam reminisces on Riki Rachtman's not so warm welcome, and the science of the three-point stance. Plus, Dr. Drew explains 'external locus of control', they discuss Russel Brand's and the chewed up gum mystery in Malibu. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage, AdamandDrDrew.com

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What's going on, Drewski? So I have noticed that you have shifted in your emphasis when I see you on ACS and see some of the materials that get pushed out on social media. You've gone from congratulating the sheep for being so to telling everyone to shut the fuck up and get to work. There's more of that now, I've noticed. More of just get to work. You're drill sergeant now.

Which I would argue is not a bad shift because telling them they're sheep doesn't seem to get anywhere. But go to work is a pretty good message. Just get it on, let's get going. Yeah, all right. I'm not really conscious of that. I wasn't either.

I just saw some stuff where he was saying, oh yeah, yeah, that's an evolution, I think. It's a movement. Well, if people push, you know, people come at me, I'll tell them, maybe I'll call them sheep. I don't know, see, I have a different relationship with criticism than I think other people have. People with a pulse?

Yeah, people with a pulse. I don't like criticism, but I'm used to it, and I don't mind it. And I look for some kernels of something. Yes, that might be live within the criticism or and that might help That might help shape or direct, you know, if you have to do that, you know if you do stand up You know you want other comedic voices watching you, and then when you get off stage, they go, hey, I got, I think, an idea for a better way to go on this joke or that joke or something.

Well, nice depending on how you're wired. Some people don't take that very well. I'll listen to whatever, you know, people go, oh, I got a button for that one, or swap this one out for that one, or whatever. It seems incredibly nice. Well, that's the interesting part of it, because the criticism,

and maybe we need a better word for it, I guess sometimes people put constructive in front of it, which helps, but the criticism. I like accurate. That's what I'm looking for. Well, yeah, but in the realm of it, which helps, but the criticism... I like accurate. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, but in the realm of comedy, it's really hard to say what is a better joke than another joke. It's a little in the eye of the beholder, you know?

But I grew up in an environment, mostly in a time, that that's all you did. You got criticized or you got coached up, essentially. You know, I don't. As far as from your coaches or teachers or where was that coming from? Every coach I had just sorta told you what you were doing wrong and sorta of what to do, you know,

and then that was pretty, you know, that was early and often for a long time. Yes. My family, they really only had sort of one unified doctorate, because you know, my family, they don't, you know, I don't have any, you know, I remember my dad telling me, son, you know, my family didn't move in conventional ways and they didn't really have, you know, the Corollas were proud and we never backed down from a fight or something.

But they did have, there was a Corolla doctrine which was do nothing, say nothing, have nothing. If nothing is a doctrine, then yes, that was. But they really did, the only thing they really agreed on and were consistent about, and I don't think they did it for reasons that were altruistic or love-oriented or anything, they made you have to sort of internalize everything. And they got some weird, very much, you know, like I said, now, my grandma would go way further with it than you needed to.

Right. You know, like I famously, but an example of early on in Love Line when I was over at her house for dinner or something or whatever, it was the early days that you, me, and Ricky Rachman, and Ricky clearly was not happy about me being there, and sort of read the writing on the wall, probably reacted the same way 91% of humanity probably reacted the same way 91% of humanity would react, which is tried to kind of, I don't know, throw me under the bus would be the word, but like, you know, I'd say, I remember saying something

like tough row ho or something and he'd go, what's that mean? And I'd go, it's a saying, you know, no one knows what that's saying. You know, like into the microphone, like, okay, thanks, anyway, we'll keep moving on. Remember you complaining about a lot of no. Well, well, look, most people are pretty bad with the yes and, but Ricky's had a, you know, his situation was difficult, because I was coming in there, and maybe I could have taken his place,

or maybe I was being groomed to take his place. I don't even really know if I was or not. No one told us. But we were going to find out. We're going to see how I did. And it didn't behoove him to have me flourish in that environment. I think if you just made it a financial decision, I would tend to agree with Ricky that it would not behoove him or his bank account to have me, you know Sail through that process, you know, so anyway, I told Mike right? Quite I told my grandma I said Yeah, said how's it going or something? I said that's kind of tough because Ricky's kind of stepping on my jokes and

I said, that's kind of tough because Ricky's kind of stepping on my jokes and running a little interference and not being helpful, you know? And she just went, I bet it's the same about you. Now you have to really think about that. Thanks, Grandma. Well, my grandma doesn't know Ricky Rachman, and she's never listened to 10 Seconds of Loveline. She has no idea what's going on. But the point is, is she took the side of the unknown person in the room. And my mom and my grandma did that a lot, you know, just whatever. If you

couldn't say, someone was driving slow in front of me and I couldn't get around, well, they were probably running, you you know they had a situation that you don't know about you know they just would never go yeah I hate those people you know what I mean or fuck Ricky Rachman you should be the host of it it was always the other the other but well unless well it started coming your way later when you were writing for the Oscars and things you got a little fuck you, but anyway, keep going. No, no, it was, look, what I'm saying is, not because they did it out of love, they did it out of some sort of bad, negative,

reactive thing that had been baked into them. Some automatic thing. But like I said, when I was telling you, when I told you the story about the T.J. Miller heaping praise on me after a show and talking about how influential I was and the big difference I made in his life and inspired him, blah, blah, blah,

but my sister was standing there and then later on my sister said What's up with TJ Miller? You didn't believe that did you? Yeah, what do you want like he's always trying to get something Because you wouldn't have said it otherwise and I thought oh far from the truth is what you'd implying Well, it doesn't take a mathematician to figure out what the implication of that, of what is, why did T.J. Miller praise you and what does he want? Because obviously, whatever the praise was,

it's not work, you know, that's not befitting you. So, something. But all I'm saying is, is it gets sort of generationally passed down. Now if T.J. Miller had tried that in front of my grandmother, she would have hit him with a chair halfway into the compliment. She wouldn't have tolerated it in real time. She would have dove in with something.

Something insulting. Oh no. Um, my something insulting. Oh, no, something distract. She would have had to get him off the subject. You know what I mean? But it's a generational thing gets kind of handed down. But what it, what it does, I think it must feel uncomfortable to them. Yes. That's because they have to get away from it, change it. My, my, my grandmother would, you know, visibly get uncomfortable if someone was going on about their accomplishments or something in the family, not Jules Mandel, not someone out of the family would have been fine. But you can, yes, it became, yes, it was uncomfortable

to them. So then I got used to that and I got kind of used to like, you know, all right, well, how does Ricky Rackman feel about me being there? And am I talking over him? I think he's talking over me, but grandma brought this thing up. It's not a bad thing to be worried about other people, but we do that already, don't we? Or is this where that got really home? I'm just saying I come from that space where whether it's grandma or football coach or whomever, yes, I will listen to your criticisms

and see if I can, you know, whatever. And I also definitely know that people feel very deputized to tell me tons of shit. I have people come up and say things to me. Well, not come up, but people in my world will just say things to me and I'll go, wow, that's horrible. But you wouldn't say that to other people because of their reaction.

From your family? Friends, family, relationships, I mean, I get a lot. And I realize there's some sort of environment that fosters. You invite it. You invite it somehow. Do I do that to you? No, you do, you speak, you speak almost like from a little mouth of babes.

You just kind of say what you think, you know, which is fine. Like Mike August is kind of doing that, but it does make it comical than when people go, well, you know, Corolla, it's his way or the highway. He surrounds himself with yes men, you know. It's like, then that becomes a weird assertion because I'm constantly talking to Mike August or whomever

and he's going, nah, don't do it, do it this way, don't do it that way, we don't want to do this or I don't want to do that. That some people might be afraid of you or they feel an aggression or something. I've told you that. Mike and I are neither here nor there with it, but I think I feel what they're feeling. Yeah, but there's no evidence to support my way to the highway kind of thing. That's not the issue at all.

With people, but a bigger picture, being okay with criticism, trying to figure out what the role that you played in it is, having it be, I mean, I got lucky in that I just grew up with it. So I had coaches kicking out my down hand in a three point stance and wanting me to fall in my face and then yelled my balance was off. And by the way, I was thinking about that the other day,

it's such bullshit that the kick the hand out of the three point stance. Yeah, but listen, if you kick the hand out and you don't lurch forward or fall forward, you're not ready. You're not in a three point stance. I mean, you may be a pulling guard and maybe it's a pass situation, but these are eight year olds.

All we do is hand the ball off to the one guy and we go forward. You can't fire out if your weight isn't on that front hand. A lot of my football career was playing defensive end, and so that was getting in there. Yeah, yeah, getting in there. So I was way up over my my I put two hands down. Oh Four point. Yeah, so

It's a good, you know, it's a good Position or a good Posture to be in to just be able to hear stuff. You don't have to beat yourself up You don't have to agree with everything. But just in general, hearing stuff. And I realize that's a bygone era. And I don't know how much of this, our leadership seems to do none of it. Which is a weird thing to me. Well, let me tell you, I've got a whole

formalized response to this. I interviewed a couple of psychologists, and they'd written a book about the Trump Derangement Syndrome. And they were trying to assess, they are highly skilled, psychometric, quantitative psychologists, and they were trying to assess who develops this thing and why.

And what she found was, and by the way, it also dovetails into the hysteria around COVID and anything else where authorities create fear. This is the group that gets totally sideways. And the fundamental feature that was unique, not unique, but present in all cases, they felt was something they coined as, and it's a psychological term, external locus of control. And extra, you're talking about internal locus of control where I, I take responsibility for things and I have low self-esteem. So I feel like,

well, something's happened. It must be my fault. Or I can, if I'm feeling something, that's on me. It's not because the world's making me feel that way. Something's happening to me, it's not because the world is doing something to me. But external locus of control is completely outside of the internal world and everything exists out there. Narcissism is one of those conditions where external locus of control is part of the picture. That's just the deal, because they are so shame-based that they can't get near anything internal.

It's all out there and they get what they need to feed the internal from the external. But Trump seems to trigger these people. It's interesting, you know, for the last four years, you and I have been like, why would they want lockdowns? Why would they want masks? But think about it. If you have been, first of all, you'd be more prone to propaganda and hypnosis.

You'd be more prone to that shit, so you'll get spun up. Then, if the outside world is what's needed to make you feel safe and better, well now you want the government to be taking care of, put you in the cradle and fucking make you feel good. Well, the crate, the crate training. Well, the crate, cradle, I think about babies more than, you know, but yeah, that makes them feel good contained.

The dog feels contained when you put them in the crate. Yeah, there's also, I don't know what percentage of these people were agnostic or atheist, but I got to say 87% of them. It's a zero God equation. They don't, the people that are religious, that is their control. That's the containment strategy. Matias Desmond, who wrote a book called

The Psychology of Totalitarianism, talks about how the drop in religion at the beginning of the 20th century is what allowed for the unregulation, the sort of dissemination of narcissism. It was sort of unleashed because... Well, I mean, let's... Sorry for cutting you off, but let's really explore this. Yeah. Narcissism, as I've explained to people all the time, is a default setting for all human beings all the time. Certainly when they start in life, for sure.

When they start and all the way through. I remember once I was driving along and I was listening to the radio and they said, it was December or something, they go, today's celebrity birthdays. I was like, oh radio and they said, you know, it was December or something, they go, today's celebrity birthdays. I was like, oh, I hope they mention me. But it's like, my birthday's in May. There's no way I'm making this list.

But it was fleeting. You know, it popped into my head, like, what if they said, that guy said me. So it's like, that's a little lightning bolt of narcissism. Now, at some point, I guess I could write an angry letter to the guy saying, mention me in your December birthday. But now I remember just thinking, oh, that's narcissism. That's how that works, you know, sort of hoping to hear your name. And everyone is sort of there, you know,

if it was an auditorium of 2000 people, and they're like, now the raffle of the person that won the Hobie Cat, you're, if it was an auditorium of 2,000 people and they're like, now the raffle of the person that won the Hobie Cat, you're like, come on. But, I mean, that's not really narcissism, but it's like, it's not going to be you, but you're you in the sea of other people. It is specifically the grandiosity that is part of narcissism. It's that. Yeah. So everybody has a, but it's me and I'm gonna do, and then as a society, then you gotta deal with that.

So what you go is you go, look, everybody wants that handicapped parking space right out front of the Costco. But are you handicapped? Are you able-bodied? Everyone wants to travel with their dog. No one wants to take their gum and put it back into the wrapper and dispose of it. They just want to spit it out of their mouth.

So what are we talking about here? You know, the first things first, I'm just going off of it's an interesting thing, but dig this. I'm ready. I walked down PCH Boulevard, Pacific Coast Highway, and at some point, directly across the street from Nobu, the most expensive, fashionable Kardashian hang in the world, I don't know, it takes six months to get reservations

at Nobu in Malibu, right? Directly across the street is McDonald's. And McDonald's has a drive-thru. And now, if you talk to my mom, or anyone in my family, they would say that the people who are going into nobu, those rich people who they didn't pay taxes, they try to cheat the system, they're probably cheating on their spouse, and the only reason they made money is because their dad swindled some land out of some poor Indian or

something back in the day, or they're polluting the rivers, or whatever it is, whatever that is, right? Then they would say the people that go to McDonald's are noble, those are the poor people, but they have dignity and pride, you know what I mean? They know how to work and they love this country, they love their family, you know, blah, blah, blah. When you go to the McDonald's

and you walk across that driveway where the drive-through leads out back in the street, I started noticing all these black gum spot circles on one side of the driveway and not on the other. And I stopped and I just stared at it. And I was like, oh, everyone who orders fries spits their gum out the window as they're turning on to PCH to start getting into the frost. Nobu, there's no gum. Now, maybe they don't chew gum, or maybe Nobu gets out there with a pressure washer every night. But there's a lot of gum amongst the noble people, the poor. Now what they do is they chew gum.

I bet they chew gum at a higher rate. I think dumb people chew gum at a higher rate. I've noticed that. Interesting. I've never seen smart people chewing gum. Well think about it. You don't see smart people chewing gum. Well, think about it. Yeah? You don't see smart people chewing gum. There's never-

It doesn't look smart. You don't, for sure. You don't see Elon Musk or Mark Derrigo, or anybody smart, like, chewing gum. It's true. Dumb people chew gum, and they are now done chewing their gum because they just got their large fry order in,

and instead of tearing off a corner of the bag and putting the gum in the bag or whatever it is, they just launch it right out of their mouth right in the middle of the sidewalk. So everybody walking from the beach can just step into their fucking Juicy Fruit with their fucking flip-flop on. Right. Or their bare feet. But here's the deal.

They're done with their gum and they're now into fries. And that's why one side is riddled with black mar- And by the way, if we were in England, it'd be on the other side. Oh, interesting. It's on the driver's side. They fire the gum out. That's why it's on one side of the driveway,

not on the other side of the driveway. It's not on the passenger side. You go down, you walk across, there's nothing, and then there's a whole bunch of it right in one spot because people are fucking animals and they don't have a lot of dignity and they are narcissists and that's why we needed religion to kind of keep them in line. Somebody has to watch it. We then decided that was a bad idea and that nobody was watching and if anyone was watching,

they wouldn't care and now we have street takeovers and lootings and the other half, one half of the sort of godless people are out there hurting other people, the other half live in Santa Monica and just want to be told what to do by Gavin Newsom. Those are the two godless parties. See what I'm saying? Yes, I do. I'm wondering if that gum thing gets in the way, if you have something to say and how you express yourself and how you are heard is important,

you're not gonna be chewing gum. You know what I mean? Dump. If you have nothing to say, and who cares what you say, if you're not gonna be saying anything, with clarity of meaning. Chewing gum makes you seem like a less serious person. Just, just, just off the, right?

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Hello, Mr. Burcham. Go to DailyWirePlus.com and enter the code ADAM25 to sign up for a Daily Wire Plus annual membership and receive 25% off. Check it out today, dailywireplus.com. So back to the religion thing. Russell Brand has been out there a bit touting his Christianity, and it's been very interesting

because he's been through a lot of different sort of philosophies and religions and stuff, and I think he's heading into Catholicism. And he's talking about what it does for him and what the history's been, and I think it's, you know, legitimate for him that it's really beneficial. But it makes me wonder, remember I kept saying, about two years ago, I kept saying, we need a new awakening, or is there time for for a great awakening or do you think there could be a great awakening? The question is will this kind of be a comeback for religion coming up? Well, look, we've got two choices. Either people can get religious or they can get a hold of themselves and have, start getting back in touch with character, start getting back in touch with character. But they're not.

As we started to go down this path, I'm explaining that narcissism is a default setting. You said as a child, none of these people leaving McDonald's drive-thru are children. These are adults, and they're firing their fucking gum out in the middle of a sidewalk while the sun is shining in Malibu and people have to walk through it. And also, I don't, God's honest, I don't know how to get that shit off the ground once it's down.

You know what I mean? Pressure washer, maybe, but that's a lot. And it's all black and it looks like shit. It sort of petrifies to right. It's hard It just gets kind of into the porous cement and it's it's just there Right and the black is dirt and tires and yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I Agree, I've stepped in hot gum on a sidewalk before then know you got to clean it off your shoe or whatever But look, those are all

Fucking narcissists that are doing that. They're all narcissists, and there's tons of them. And you live amongst them, and you may say they're nice and they're friendly, but they're still doing what they want to do when they want to do it. Now, for those people, we need a guard standing there or some sort of camera system, and they need to get a citation in

the mail for $421.69 for spitting their gum out and that will stop them from doing it. Yeah, we need to be realistic about human behavior and what our human motivation is. But the utopia is that they govern themselves. Right. And that's gone and that's the reason it's going faster and faster is when you try, by the way, I've experienced this, you try to discipline people. First off, women get very upset when you try to discipline anyone around you. That's their default saying. You're getting angry because I'm trying to discipline somebody in my orbit. No, it's not going to

work. It doesn't lead to anything good. And it's not good for the people that are spitting the gum out. They're the ones who suffer the most. Right. It's not you or me. And I would say, my pushback on your default setting was more about the default setting statement. You know, I want to refine that because I see what you're saying. I misinterpreted what you were saying with that, which is today, vast majority of people have significant narcissistic traits.

Well, with no religion. Period. Narcissism, we enter the world with what's called primary narcissism. Usually we sort of find a way out of that. Yeah, well, we get rid of the part where, you know, as a two-year-old, you see a kid holding a donut, and you just walk over to him and push him down

and take the donut out of his hand. Now we're at the spot where you're at the McDonald's drive-through in Malibu, and you just look around, you go, well, there's nobody here. I'm not sure they even look around. Oh, you're right, they don't look around. They just go, I'm done with this gum. I'm not sure they even look around. Oh, you're right. They don't look around. They just go, I'm done with this gum. I'm not gonna walk up to you and take your gum,

but I'll just spit this out. Right, and so that is that external locus of control thing again, where everything, nothing's happening inside me. I'm fine. Everything that's a problem is out there. I have no respect for it, no concern for it, except when it makes me scared or when it victimizes me.

Right. And it's sort of that victim thing that creates the grandiosity and it creates the the self preoccupation. Well right, so us convincing all the people who drive through the McDonald's in Beverly Hill, sorry Malibu, that their victims is now it's really getting bad. Now you've weaponized this. And the nonstop beating of the drum of the victimhood class has- It's not good. It's not good for anybody.

It's not only, it's really, I've said it more than once, it's like a sort of professional negligence. It'd be like, oh, the pilot forgot to shut the door and he took off and to plain depressurize. It's like, well, is he a bad guy? I don't know if he's a bad guy, but he's not doing his job. Like he is a sort of dangerous pilot. Like every single speech that Biden does

where he just talks about race, he's being negligent. He's hurting people. It's interesting that Milley, the Argentinian president, is talking about how destructive this is and where it comes from. And he was saying how Argentina was the richest country in the world at the turn of the 20th century until this kind of thinking took hold and got into the hands of the elites who used it as a way to retain their status and then now we have Argentina. Yeah. The Argentina we have today. Yeah, no, it's really destructive. I have a unique gift for sniffing out destructive things early on. People think are innocuous or the sort of a it's a kind of a like, I remember taking Sonny home from some long distance

track meet or something on some marathon day, Saturday or whatever, and he did his final, you know, the 440s at eight in the morning and then the 440 relay, the 880 or something's at four in the afternoon, after a day of watching kids, watching nine-year-olds do cross-country is about the most boring thing a human can view, really.

And so the thing ended, he came in eighth or whatever it was and I just said to my wife, all right, come on, now we can leave. And it's like, whoa, medal ceremony. And I was like, no, he came in eighth place, let's go. No, no, they do the podium. The podium, the podium is first, second, third. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It keeps going.

Now, I mean, the funniest thing, and maybe Emmy can find it for the next show, but in – I don't know, in Oregon where a dude won the women's cross-country, whatever, the comedy, they had a picture of the podium. But the podium looks like piano keys just stepping down. I mean, the guy at the end is just standing on a cookie sheet. It's not even raised. Pie tin. We had, I had to actually dig a hole for Sonny to stand in. They ran out of cookies.

They ran out of cookie sheets. And by, don't do what you do pie tin. No, cookie sheet. Cookie sheet is better. Don't make my joke worse. You're right. With your contributions. Yeah, the point is that, here's what I'm saying.

I'm saying this isn't good, not good. Well, hold on, and my wife is saying, yes it is. And then what's wrong? It's one through eight. By the way, why are you cutting it off at eight? I guess there's not more than eight lanes to run in on the track. Probably not, right? Or maybe it keeps going. Can I? No, it doesn't keep going. It stops. See it?

Yeah. Okay. All right. we're gonna get into the next show because I'm telling you, I'm saying this is a bad thing. And you're saying, what's wrong with making people, and I'm saying, you don't know what's wrong, you're gonna find out what's wrong when the guy in fucking eighth place has to get a job when they're 26 and is the world's shittiest employee.

That's when you're gonna find out. All right, Las Vegas, Jimmy Kimmel's Club doing a live podcast. John Wolfe's gonna be there, Michael Yeo, that'll be tomorrow as you hear this at 7.30. And we'll do standup after that at 9.30. Irvine, Improv, it's free. And we're screening Sound of Hope.

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