The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1885 Truth-O-Meter

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

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Yeah, get it on, show yeah get it on get get under that that that that that that that that that that doctors for 35 35 45 45 45 45 sold America fortified Let's talk about a couple things sure yeah, let's do It's something I've noticed and I've been noticing and I I still notice But I notice okay People I still notice, but I notice. Okay. People, now more than ever, but even in the past, have a ton of difficulty with organizing.

And now there's a job called a professional organizer because people are so bad. But I used to say, and I don't know if you remember this, even back in the 90s I would tell you, I'd tell people to organize, you know, go in the garage and just put the screws with the screws and the nails with the nails, and what I would get was batteries with the chapstick.

Yeah. Remember I used to say that? Yes. Now what does a AA battery have to do with ChapStick? Nothing. Looks like it. It's the same size. Yeah.

And so I would find it together. You know what I mean? Because somehow people's brains weren't literally able to function well enough to, I mean the chapstick is bright orange with a white cap and then there's a Duracell battery, right? But they couldn't do it. It would always end up in the same basket because it was the same size. Even though, you know, you could imagine how well putting chapstick in your TV remote would do and you could imagine how well rubbing your lips with a double a battery would do but they were the same size and

So they ended up in the same place and I noticed that people cannot pick up patterns mmm, and cannot organize. And I think it's a general lack of concentration. You know?

Like little stupid stuff, like I'm clearing out the warehouse, another warehouse, I'm clearing it out. And so by the door, there's sort of a pile of stuff that in my mind's coming home with me. It's got my weighted vest and a car detailer and a couple other items. And it's just sort of sitting in a pile in the middle of the floor, right?

And then at some point, someone shows up and goes, all right, we got the weighted vest, that's gonna come with you. And then I'll bring the car detailer back in and put it with the car detail. And it's like, this is clearly a pile of stuff that's coming with me. Yes.

Why isn't it perceived that way? You know what I'm saying? This is a conversation you and I have not been frequently. I would have it all the time. We would be, when we would be out of mayonnaise, and I wanted to make sure that the nanny or whomever bought more mayonnaise, I would take the mayonnaise jar,

I would turn it over and I would set it in the middle of the kitchen floor. And at some point I would find the empty mayonnaise jar back in the refrigerator. That's my favorite. Because they didn't take that as a sign. You know what I mean? Well, so when you and I talk about this, we inevitably dovetail into the way Mike August thinks and the kind of rigidity

of thinking that people have, the rigidity of things. Do you know every time in my condo, in the guest bedroom, where I will oftentimes take a nap, there is a clock alarm. And when I take a nap, especially if it's four in the afternoon, I'm trying to wake up at 4.45 or something, it doesn't get dark, it's not light, it's just light outside.

I can lose track of time. The worst nap, well not the worst nap, but the worst is when it's five o'clock and you want to go down for 45 minutes and you wake up at 730 at night. Now you're kind of fucked up, you know. Yeah, yeah. There is a clock alarm, right? The clock alarm is always turned toward the bed so I can see what time it is from laying in the bed. When the maid comes, the maid always turns it back forward. Right. Why does she do that? Well, that's another, so there's three layers

what you just discussed. I mean, bitch, you turned it forward and then you left for a week and then I turned it the other way and then you came back and turned it. Don't you think I want it so it can be read from the bed? Ah, want it. That's the part that people miss. They seem unable to sort of, it's sequence their thinking or think a little deeper. Why? What's the motivation for Mr. Corolla? Who keeps turning this clock the other direction? Yeah. The person that owns the clock, that's the person who's doing it. And what must he be intending in doing so? Is he just lazy?

He can lay in bed and see what time it is in the middle of the night. Or is it that he's groggy and pulls it towards himself every morning and I'm the person to come here and make his bed and make his room for him so things are more structured and orderly? Or this is the part they're bad at, assessing your motivation. Maybe I should reconsider why he's doing that. Why the mayonnaise jar in the middle of the, is Adam nuts? He put a mayonnaise, or he wants to booby trap me so I break the glass.

Why did Adam, and by the way, people have strange ways of thinking about that. Oh my God, strange ways. Criminally insane ways of thinking about it. Yeah, they jump to, I know what he's doing. He wants me to break my leg. He wants me to cut my foot on the glass after I break it. Yeah, that's what Adam wants.

That's what he wants. He's an evil white man, yes. So I need more mayonnaise. So there's a big problem with organization. Yes, and sequencing too, by the way. And sequencing. Which you've always complained about, yeah. Sequencing and motivation and sort of patterns and beats

and lots of trouble with that, big trouble. Those things all require thinking and thinking critically and carefully. You said attentional, yes, attentionality is where it starts. You have to stop and go, huh, jar in the middle of the room. Wonder why. Then you can conclude wrong, that's fine.

But they don't even do that, I don't think. No, no, they don't stop. No. It's an interesting thing. But I think, in the world, in a world of, you know, people having certain skill sets or lacking certain skill sets, the one consistent one is organization. I have never dealt with somebody who could organize properly and clearly, never. And it's not even that, you know, it's not,

well, you get so granular about things. He put the common head nails with the finished cup head nails, most people don't know the difference. No, no, it's not that, there's a drill bit in with the nails. There's a drill bit. It's long, it's metallic, it's thin, but it's a drill bit. And it's easily seen. I mean, there's, I have never told somebody, organize this area, just organize the shit out of it, and then not went through it and picked it, spent an hour picking it apart,

I'm not picking it apart verbally, I just mean literally pulling the screws out from where the nails were and the chapstick from the batteries. It's never. So what do we think? Do we think that's not understanding what drill bits are? Or not paying attention? Or not understanding what drill funds are or not paying attention or not

understanding what well it comes all of the above it comes to a few things all the above really well no first things first if I say I will give you ten thousand dollars if you do this properly but if I find a drill bit in with the nails I will not give you the ten thousand dollars then there would be no drill bit with the nails yes yes that yes. That's the sad part. And the- There could be something else fucked up. No, there can be, but what I'm saying is,

when I would be tasked with that kind of stuff when I was sort of early in my career, I was just like, there shall be no drill bits with screws. Oh, so there's another layer, yeah. And it didn't really matter if there was money at all. You're right. Well, I care about if this person thinks I'm fucking retarded. That mattered.

Do you know how many people around me I go, that fucking person's just a fucking idiot, or super lazy, or out of it, or dumb? I don't know why they don't have thoughts about that. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, that's back. So there's another motivational disturbance or at least motivational assessment disturbance,

which is the individual in question, motivation is screwed up. They're not motivated to pay attention. They're not motivated to get things just so. Maybe that's the bigger problem. Cause like you said, you can adjust that with $10,000. Boom. Maybe, but maybe not because people are so accustomed to being a little ax with that stuff. I think $10,000 fixes it. Yeah, I do.

I mean, it fixes it. You know, if somebody said, can you pick me up from the airport and they got a really can man, cause my back's really bad and I can't pick me up from the airport? And they go, I really can't, man, because my back's really bad and I can't even get up off the sofa because my back's hurting so bad. And I went, okay, I'll give you $10,000 to pick me up from the airport.

Then they would get up off the fucking sofa and pick you up, right? Well, which is it? And how are they able to do that? And then people do this thing all the time. They go, well, of course they could do it for, well, what do you mean well, of course? I mean, well, of course they could perform it for, well, what do you mean well of course? I mean, well of course they could perform their job

if you bribe them. How about just telling them to do it and then they're getting paid to do it? Why is that not enough motivation? Well, but that's it. That's kind of where we're living. And I've noticed it comes out in the form of organization like a lot. I've noticed it comes out in the form of organization,

a lot. That's interesting. And- That's just the surface symptom of all this. Yeah, yeah, no, I think it's the surface symptom. It's like saying, geez man, average kid these days can't do 10 pushups. I was like, what's the deal with pushups?

It's not pushups, they're horribly out of shape. Yeah, but what about, you said pushups. I'm saying pushups. Adam, you're preoccupied with pushups, I was like, what's the deal with pushups? It's not pushups, they're horribly out of shape. Yeah, but what about, you said pushups. I'm saying pushups. Adam, you're preoccupied with pushups. Why are you so focused on pushups? I keep talking about pushups. Okay, chin ups and pushups, are we okay? Why do you talk about pushups all the time?

Yeah, right, right. Okay, running a mile, a time to mile. Like what I'm saying is, is it's just bad. When you try to talk about these things, is that the number one pushback? Why are you always worried about drill bits? You know what I mean? They pick some stupid detail and then focus on that as a pushback. I don't really even talk about it anymore. If I tell somebody to organize something, what I do is I go do it and I assume they did,

do is I go do it and I assume they did, by the time I show up they've done three quarters of it. And then at some point there's gonna be a bin that says plumbing and a bin that says finish electrical. And at some point I'm gonna open the finish electrical thing that has all the switches and the switch plates and I'm going to pull a sprinkler head out of there right I will maybe two or three and they'll just put it into the plumbing that'll be the end of the job that'll be how I finished the job you know and then people kind of go well

look man people aren't journeyman plumbers so how the hell they you know and it's like yeah I get it but one's a sprinkler head, and one's a switch plate. You can kinda see that, right? Demand too much of people. Well, people do a lot of bar lowering and they do it on the behalf of a lot of people. Two, here's the reality.

The reality is, is sorting and organizing is fucking boring, people don't like to do it, and they tune out almost immediately. Or do you think there's some willful sort of, No, no, what it is is they're motivated for the first 10 minutes, but by the time they get to minute 45, they've gone onto some sort of weird autopilot.

And when you go onto the autopilot, that's how you get the batteries and the chapstick in the same bin. The battery and the chapstick doesn't happen in the first five or 10 minutes. It wears off. So the first five or 10 minutes, whatever you said to them is still ringing in their head.

Screws with the screws, nails with the nails, saw blades with the saw blades. By the way, it's also funny that I have to do the sing songy version of that. I love that. You know what I mean? And I'll do stuff like, I'll go like, now look, may come in the same spray bottle,

but one is a quick auto detailer and the other's grout sealer. So we don't want them in the same bin because one is for grout and the other's for car detailing. So even though they come in the same shape bottle with a spray, make sure and just read, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because you will find that bottle

of Grout Sealer. Well, you can laugh, but I don't know how you doing this either, Drew. Oh, absolutely. I can see myself too. You may not be good either. No, I don't think I would be, I think my thing would be, you know, I would have, um, disturbingly like, like, I would have very rare errors,

but they'd be bad. They'd be like, like things that would make you mad. Something to make you piss you off. The drill bit is sort of a good example of that. I think that's in that zone. You know what? I know what I think the reality is. I think the reality to this really basic task that we've spoken about is I think if you said, hey, Mark Garagos or Nick Santor or Kevin Hench, like here are the guys that are wildly competent,

you know, they're wildly competent, but they also average $1,500 an hour. You know, but if I said to you, look, if you guys would be willing to take a pay cut from 1,500 an hour to 20 bucks an hour, I think you would flourish in this environment of organizing shit for me. They would not get out of the park. The

problem is is it really takes them to do it. It did buy in. Hmm? Takes a buy-in, you mean? Not a buy-in. It takes a kind of a mind that's sort of meticulous and detail oriented and has a lot of pride and sort of cares. It doesn't take... the guy who works behind the counter at McDonald's is just not the guy. He's never gonna be able to do it. Because the reality is it's the only people who are doing this are getting minimum wage,

20 bucks an hour, 25 bucks an hour. That's not, those minds aren't, these guys were all shit students, right? They're not really capable, they don't have a lot of follow through. They're not that motivated. It's not gonna happen. You know what I mean?

Yep, yep. It's not a human condition if you got guys that were high level engineers for Lockheed Skunkworks who built black boxes for SR-71 supersonic airplanes, they could pull it off. Because you don't get them, you get the McDonald's guy. Right, right. Right, so that's who you're getting.

So I have a question. It's a little off topic here, but it's sort of in this zone. But do you agree that organization has fallen off? I mean, maybe it's edibles, maybe it's earbuds. You know what I mean? Maybe it's music. But why would I fuck it up?

Well, I have age- No, look. First off, in the past, explaining to humanity that there were professional dogwalkers and professional organizers. Yeah. What would we have thought of that in 1951? Oh, or how about, you know, 17, explain that to 17 eighties man. You're hiring someone to organize your house and to then to walk your dog.

The fact that there's a job called professional organizer means there's an issue with organization. Oh, yeah. OK, go ahead. I mean, just think about the way Benjamin Franklin signed his name and wrote, you know, there's just the care with which they took every little thing. Maybe that's where we're falling down a little bit too. You know, and just the ability to teach people to attend to detail. Oh, detail. Oh, detail.

Yeah, but I mean, not teaching. I mean, I don't know why I thought of cursive handwriting immediately, but that's a very detail oriented skill that everybody was taught. No, no, no, no detail. Yeah. Detail. Yeah. 100%. But it's 100%. I just was looking in these drawers that I had the guys put the handles on and they fucked it up a little bit but not too bad but inside of every drawer

for this new kitchen base I'd built, there's maybe ten drawers, inside of every drawer was all the wood dust and the wood shavings from the drill bit that started on the outside went through the face of the drawer into the inside of the drawer and then the handles got put on and now I have to clean out all the drawers before the food or the the plates or whatever goes into the drawers right yep yep but the idea that they just mounted all the mounted all now the drawers white so when you look down you immediately see all the shavings of all the wood it did it just looks like someone took a number two pencil and tried to sharpen it over inside of every drawer but that here we

are but but then that translated because I have OCD that should drives middle crazy then that translates to the setting of the doors on the cabinets are just a little bit off or that they're a little bit loose. It's just that detail. So now we're talking about craftsmanship, right? Yeah, well, no, but you're right. We're not detail oriented.

Yeah. And maybe we've lost that because no one's physically doing anything anymore. Right. Anything. And that's why it's physically doing anything anymore. Right. Anything. And that's why it's so weird that I thought of cursive handwriting. We're not even doing that. Yeah, no, no, you're right.

You're right in that. I mean, in a weird way, the real detail in our society as I see it is now it's not, you know, craftsmanship or putting wood together or any of that, working on cars. It's cooking. People are cooking or getting into detail. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, which is fine, but you need some detail.

Yeah. Huh. Yeah. And that sequence and that's going to follow through and that's organization and that's all of those things that you worry about. Yes, it is. All right. What was your profound thought?

Well, my question was sort of a corollary to all this, which was details about truth. I feel like truth is making a comeback. I just don't know that it will make the comeback, they'll make me happy because of lack of detail. But I feel like the truth, in my speech at this sort of Unite Canada thing, I picked a quote from Emile Zola, who's a famous French writer from the 19th century.

He said that he opened this one little speech with, the truth is marching. I thought, oh, that's this. It's a march. It's moving. Truth is moving. It's coming forward. I think it's most obvious to me in COVID. But even then, man, it is slow.

I'm just shocked at how slow it is. But it's gonna be like, Hemingway has a famous quote about bankruptcy. It's very, very slow and then fast. It's like slow, slow, slow, slow, shwoom. And then at the end, there's a fast uptick. And I have a feeling we're going towards something like that.

There were, consensus will slowly build on things like lab origin or vaccine concerns. That's where I'm sort of seeing it the most is in this, in the- Well, I think- Lockdowns hurt people. And then all of a sudden, it will become nobody knew otherwise.

What do you mean? Of course that was a bad thing. I mean, we're starting to get there. Fauci's letting little things out and dribs and drabs about school closures not being good. Redfield is out there talking about how they didn't take any, and same with the other guy, Francis Collins,

didn't consider any risk-reward analysis at any of their decision-making. Yeah, no, the LA Unified School District is probably drafting an apology letter to me as we speak. Correct about all this stuff. Instead of calling me elitist or whatever it is. Well, first things first, calling everyone rich and white and whatever,

it's no good anymore, right? They fucked that right out, which is funny. It seems to still get a fair bit of that traction. No, they tried to do the racist thing, but people laugh at them. Oh, the racist thing, yeah, they've overdone it. Yeah, and the rich white thing, they're getting laughed at now too, because they fucked it out.

But we will see where, well, they just did. They literally used it so often often and in so many places it didn't apply, you know what I mean? That no one, people stopped listening to them. We're gonna kind of see where truth is as it pertains to this next election. And I think we're gonna get some insights. And the reason I say that is because I get a email from the Biden campaign daily. And the one I got a day or two ago just started with, Trump vowed to be a dictator on day

one, you know? And now that's not hearsay from inside the limo when he lunged for the steering wheel or he didn't or he did. Well, he didn't, but either way, plausible deniability in the lying department. I watched him in real time on Hannity and that sequence was insane, you know, and it couldn't have been clear. You know, Hannity just went, all right, just tell everyone you're not going to be a dictator so they don't have, you know, they can get their panties out of a bunch. And then Trump, because he's, he's a contrarian and he's also a, you know, he's also kind of a jokester, you know, I was like, Oh, I am going to be a, I am going to be a dictator. And then Sean Haney was like, don't come on.

They're going to take this and they're going to run with it. And he's like, no, no, no, I'm going to do it. But just for one day, just for one day. And I'm going to do drilling and I'm gonna shut the border, and then I'm done. Then I'm done being a dictator. And it just, it couldn't have been clear. It just couldn't have been clear that it was a joke, and that he was saying day one, but for one day. And then also the two things he brought up

were not dictatorial things, that stuff the president has the power to do. So that wouldn't be an example of being a dictator. But it was abundantly clear. Okay. They've chosen to take that and run with it and lie about it. Now, and it's become a universal lie that they're continuing with.

Well, it's like the fine people and the working-for-lead challenges. Right, now there's footage of it, and it's the most deducible thing in the world. But I think these people of Trump Derangement hear one day of being, and they go with it. All right, but there's digital color footage of him laughing about it,

and it has nothing to do with reality. And it's clearly, he was not proclaiming that. I mean, it's abundantly clear. So. The sane people. It's for anybody. It wouldn't, the average third grader could look at it and know what he meant by it, and he was kidding about it.

So then the question is, are we going to move forward with the lie or are we going to reject the lie? And Biden and his administration has chosen to move forward with it. And that's how they got elected last time was different hoax know. Yeah, but those lies, those were different because we weren't, they weren't as, they weren't as easily. Debunked. Debunked, thank you. Yeah.

So, all right, and CNN's gonna move forward with it and everyone on the left's gonna move forward with it, although like I said, it always feels weird to me that they're able, no one ever goes, oh come on, he didn't say that. Look, there's other reasons not to vote for the guy, but come on, it was clearly not what it meant. I mean, let's not get into this game.

We look foolish. Why adults, why adults in midlife and beyond are able, who are highly educated, are able to just truck along with this without fucking raising their hand is problematic and it suggests to me that they're sort of soulless. Like they just are. I would just raise my hand and just go, I'm not, no.

You know, like if there was a really shitty employee at work, right, and you wanted to get rid of that really shitty employee, but they kept bringing up something he didn't do. I would just go like, Mark's a shit employee and I wanna get rid of Mark, but stop bringing up the part where he did this, cause he didn't do it.

And we just look stupid by saying, this is why we wanna get rid of the guy, cause he didn't do this thing and we just look dumb. Yeah, don't go too far with stuff. Don't overcharge the criminal. Well, pick other stuff you don't like about the guy and focus on that, not the stuff he clearly didn't do or was joking about, you know what I mean?

Which is very bothersome and weird to me. It doesn't seem to bother anybody else, and I shouldn't say anybody else, but what I mean is it's not universally bothersome that we have a president and administration who clearly Misunderstands things intentionally and then runs with them. Yeah, which is not a quality you want in leadership, by the way No, I would hope not because

They could misinterpret something that mexico or something that Russia said. Right, right. But either way, it's volitional and they do it on purpose and it just seems beneath them and sort of weird, but we will find out where we are on the truth-o-meter because if it's rejected, and it wasn't rejected last time, but this time- Last election. Election. Yeah. But if it is rejected this time, but this time, last election. But if it is rejected this time, then we will know.

Interesting. Where were at? I hope the Truth-O-Meter is well tuned, partially tuned at least. Well, we're not gonna get any help from CNN because I have, or any of the politicians because they're not piping up. I think those guys, the mainstream media,

the politicians have screwed themselves on the truth-o-meter side. I think the truth-o-meters is coming from the public. That's where the truth is gonna march. All right, you can go to Levittown and watch me tonight and tomorrow night, doing stand-up there. One show tonight, two shows tomorrow night. That's Governors in New York.

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