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Episode Date: July 3, 2024

Adam and Dr. Drew kick off the week discussing the recent, and first, presidential debate, Adam introduces Drew to the great Sugar Ray Leonard and Robert Duran, and Parkinsonian signs explained.  Plus, cheap fakes and hands of stone! Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage, AdamandDrDrew.com

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Go to DailyWirePlus.com and enter the code ADAM25 to sign up for a Daily Wire Plus annual membership and receive 25% off. Check it out today, dailywireplus.com. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and Board Certified Physician and Addiction Medicine Specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, got to get on it. Dr. Drew, 43566666, change in Mexico. What's going on, man? So much for us to talk about. People have been interested in our opinion about a few things. We've not, I don't think we've actually talked about the presidential debates yet. And so you first,

and I will sort of tell you, because I now have, I'm watching all this bullshit about, oh, it's just a bad day and all this stuff. I will tell you exactly what's going on. I deal with this every day. I don't know I know, I deal with this every day. I don't know him, but I deal with this every day. You're talking about what, your wife? I am. How'd you know that? She has the same thing.

I got Mike August. But she's had it her whole life. I gotta deal with it too. All right, so a couple things. This is what you and I used to call concrete thinking right now. It's thinking Everybody though people have lost their ability to think clearly. That's that that is clear All right the debate yeah, yes when people go he had a bad night There are people who are great baseball players.

Rod Carew. Rod Carew hit close to 400 his whole career. He hit over 300. Rod Carew's one of the only guys who hit over 300. And I don't know where he ranks, but top five all time bat batting average right yeah Rod Carew had nights where he went 0 for 4 of course but he looked like a baseball player he just went 0 for 4 he wasn't taking the bat and hitting himself on the head with it or hitting the umpire or holding the bat

upside down or unable to hold or unable to hold the bat or unable to hold the bat. Things that he wouldn't normally swing at. Yes. I've explained to people there are bad comedians and then there would be my mom doing standup, which would not look like a bad comedian. She would look like a non comedian. You know what I'm saying? So Joe Biden having a bad night is something they're using to dismiss it. Like, well, anyone could have a bad night. Yeah, Rod Carew would go 0 for 4. Or I've seen Dave Chappelle go out there and not knock it out of the park. He's had a couple of bad nights. Yes, but he looks like

a comedian. And Rod Carew looks like a baseball player. This is not that. Yeah, not only that. Let's say, let's you Dave Chappelle again. If Dave Chappelle were to go out and gaffe, you just go, and he had a bad night, you would say, that's Dave in a bad night. But if he looked or behaved sick or ill or something was like not right, you go, oh, is he, first of all, you go, is he, does he take something? Does he, had something happen to him? Is he okay? You'd wonder what the fuck is going on. Yes. Well, we're at that phase, you know, it's the mask up in between bites era

where they're just saying insane things and expecting people to go along with it. I mean, they're talking about, you know, Trump saying to inject bleach in your arm and stuff. That was eight seconds into the debate Biden had gotten into it. They're just going places, they just keep going there. And it's now, you know, it's that thing I used to talk about.

It's two people alone in an elevator, one guy farts, and the other guy goes, you just fart in the elevator, and the guy goes, you fart in the elevator. And then you just go, I didn't fart, and they go, yes, you did. And then you- That's called gaslighting. That's what-

Gaslighting. Gaslighting, yes. Well now we're at the point where, but you always point out now the- You taught me about asslighting. Now the third person has entered the elevator and goes, whoo, who farted? And then they both, he goes, that guy farted.

And you go, I didn't, you did it. And that's where we're at. And the only thing that really can prevent that is something called character and dignity, and those are bygone era things. Or some extreme something. Like then the guy shits his pants, and it's on the floor or something.

Right, which is what we saw on Thursday night. Yeah. Yes. So what you're watching, it's something we've kind of talked about periodically over the last few years, that there seems to be something neurological going on, right? What I find odd is that no one is interviewing doctors for any commentary on this. I actually once saw one physician interview and he was of course spot-on. There are things that doctors can comment about without examining the patient just by looking at a video.

Yeah. Rashes, for example, certain psychiatric conditions, certain neurological symptoms. In medical school, before we went to the clinics, when we studied them, guess what we did? We watched videos of those conditions so we could come to understand it when we saw it in the real world. And so what you're seeing is Parkinsonism, which I think I've mentioned before here. So that kind of weird, festinating gait, and his hands are kind of curved in like this, and he kind of doesn't swing his arms. And he has

what's called the mask-like face, that kind of weird kind of frozen face. Yeah, cheap fakes. Yeah, he has, he has motoric slowing, slowing is part of Parkinsonism. Really the only thing he doesn't have is tremor and not all Parkinson's patients have tremor and he might even have a fine tremor, we just don't see it. They always try to pass off too. So look, he has a stutter and he had a bad night. The stutter part, I'm not sure what that is.

I've seen him do an hour worth of State of the Union and not stutter. When he reads. When he reads. Yes. Yes, and. I didn't see any stuttering by the way. I saw muttering and mumbling.

No, they, yeah, yeah, that's the part. They keep going, he has a stutter. Why are we picking on him? Because they want to bring back. He had a stutter in junior high in 1947. And look at his videos when he was debating Romney 12 years ago. He was like, he was on it. No problem. No stutter. So I don't even, my problem is, is I'm gullible. And the reason I'm gullible is because I think

they're saying something that lives in some reality somewhere. No. And I keep looking for it. No. You know what I mean? Like stutter. I didn't, I didn't. No. There's such a thing as a stutter.

Yeah. I don't associate that with Joe Biden. No. And that's, and I didn't see him stutter Thursday night as some freeze up. Freeze up, muttering, lost train of thought, mumbling, trying to find his way back, that kind of stuff. That is not somebody with great cognitive ability at that moment.

There's something going on with cognition. Now what's interesting is his memory is not that affected, right? He pulled out a bunch of stuff. Now what he goes to all the time is what's called over-learned material. So guess what's over-learned? Bleach, find people, he's chanted about that for years.

But the new material he tried to go to would sort of come out of nowhere, if you noticed. No one lost their life in Afghanistan. Just these weird sort of pronouncements that clearly had been preloaded into him, but they weren't making sense. And that's where that got into trouble. So what are we looking at here? So it's not just aging, right? Let's be clear about that. You don't become Parkinsonian as a routine part of aging. One question that

begs some interesting sort of answer possibly is could this be medication related for what he's taking to treat his Parkinsonism? Because you notice he kind of, when he walked in on Thursday night, he walked in a little more, kind of easily, it was a little more of a natural gait. And I thought, oh, he's got some medication going. And you know, in my world, that medicine causes lots of different side effects, and sort of muttering and mumbling can be kind of one of those things. But it doesn't cause that kind of cognitive difficulty. So then you ask yourself, okay, you have Parkinsonism, right? And you have what seems to be various kinds of brain something.

So it becomes the question of, well, what conditions give you some sort of cognitive something and Parkinsonism? There are essentially three. One is Parkinson's disease, which is often associated with depression and dementia. The other is vascular dementia, which if it's that, that can kind of wax and wane a bit. And he does wax and wane a lot and it progresses sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly.

But the third and actually the most likely is something called Lewy body dementia, which often has motor manifestations, often associated with sort of rambling speech. Robin Williams have that? He did, he did. And it goes rather quickly once it gets going. You remember what happened to Robin, it was like, whoo, all of a sudden.

But it is going to be interesting. You know, the other thing that I see is that, you know, the Biden family and the United States in general is having a conversation with themselves that families all over the country have on a regular basis when they're dealing with elderly family members. Yeah. This is what happens every freaking time, which is the person with the dementia has anosognosia. How long have I been screaming about that lack of insight that neurological disease and psychiatric disease...

So he can't see what's happening to them. The family's worried they want to take the car keys away. He's gonna crash, he's gonna kill somebody. They think he needs to maybe slow down a little bit or maybe they want to place him somewhere. They got assisted living. Why? What's wrong with you? Yeah, I can take my... They get very angry.

I'm dealing with it with a number of patients right now. It's a regular thing because we live so damn long that this is a new thing that is regularly dealt with. We not only live long, we work long. Normally, we wouldn't be working to 83 or 85, back throughout human history, but the fact that we're working so long is we're looking until we develop these neurological syndromes oftentimes, and because of the block and insight, families can't get anywhere with them, and in this case, the entire United States can't get anywhere with

them, or the entire Democratic Party anyway. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. Oh yeah, but. Well, look, let's just take a view of this thing from outer space. This thing that doesn't exist according to, you know, morning Joe or according to Bill Maher 10 minutes ago, or according to any punting on CNN or whatever. This thing that doesn't exist keeps getting brought up. You know what I mean?

Yeah, keeps poking through. Yeah, keeps pushing through, right. And, you know, we're not talking about Joe Biden's weight. Because if we were talking about his weight, then it wouldn't make sense. But we're talking about Joe Biden's weight. No. Because if we were talking about his weight, then it wouldn't make sense. Right. But we're talking about something that keeps happening. Yeah.

And they keep saying it's not happening. But what I keep saying is- The fart theory in the elevator again. Right, here's what I'm saying. Nobody called, nobody said Hillary Clinton had dementia. Correct. And nobody said Barack Obama had dementia. No. And nobody said Hillary Clinton had dementia. Correct. And nobody said Barack Obama had dementia. And nobody said Bill Clinton had dementia.

And no one has said anybody, no one says Nancy Pelosi has dementia. They say she's getting old. And she's lost her fastball. But nobody accuses Bernie Sanders of having dementia, or AOC of having dementia or AOC of having dementia or anybody of having dementia, but there is one guy they keep bringing it up with, right? Why? You know, why think about it? Why pursue an angle if it doesn't exist? If you're just looking at it from a straight logic kind of way, like if someone said, look, we got to take Biden down

a couple of notches. What are we going to pursue? Well, let's call them short and fat. It's like, well, that's not really going to work. You know what I mean? Yes, yes. But this one works because it's happening. It's not even pursuing an angle.

It's people going, oh my God. Now, the thing that's interesting about the Democrats is they just call everyone racist. It doesn't matter if it's Romney or Trump, whomever. You show up, they call you racist. At least they're on the same page. They've got their marching orders, and that's everybody's a racist who disagrees.

When I disagree with LA Unified about closing schools, then I'm a racist. And anything COVID I disagreed with made me a racist, or anyone who did disagree with them, a COVID. They're the ones who pick the angle and apply it to everyone. No Republican has called the Democrat dementia riddled since the guy who had the signs of it who's 80 something years old showed up with it

Yeah, so let's just look at origin stories getting worse. Yes. It's getting worse Now the thing that I find comical about this is You watch Bill Maher and you watch his show six days before the debate and he does a whole thing on cheap fakes and how this is nonsense and then he looks at his panel and he goes, what do we got to do to convince these people this thing is right? He's fine. What do we got to do? And Mario Cuomo is up there going, yeah, they do it all that they do the same thing, it's not fair to take videotape.

You gotta find Cuomo on Mar from the week before. Now, the thing that's funny, I was thinking about a sports analogy. And I think you're gonna like this. So, because of Trump derangement, So, because of Trump derangement, people like Bill Maher lost their sense because of Trump derangement. Yes, he has smart analytical guy who has big blind spots and lost it. And Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper and all the ladies from The View because of Trump derangement syndrome

have given up their credibility because of their blindness. They have big blind spots now and they can't control themselves and they're unaware of it, okay? So sports analogy. And we'll play Bill, I'll play the whole deepfake or cheapfake segment, I'll play the whole deep fake or cheap fake segment, but let it, you gotta let it roll into Cuomo. We cut it off before. But he's so affected by Trump Derangement Syndrome that he's lost his ability to think clearly on this subject.

Yes, yes. Okay, we'll play it and then I'll give you the sports, I'll give you the sports analogy I'll give you the sports analogy. I want to hear this. You're gonna like it. Yeah, we'll do the cheap pick first and then you can go. The Cuomo came two seconds after this. We just cut it off in our last thing.

Roll the video and we'll look at this and you can tell me what you think afterwards. This is six days, Drew, six days before. He goes to sit down. Six days before the debate. I just did this in church. Is everybody sitting? Oh no. And then, so they said he was pooping his pants. I mean he may be number two in the polls but he wasn't pooping his pants. Okay. Then they was at the Juneteenth thing. Everybody's dancing and he's not. Good! He shouldn't be dancing. He's 82. You look like an idiot when you try to dance. Clap it up, Seals. Clap it up, Seals.

Then he was on a fundraiser. Okay, so he was basking in a little bit of the applause at the end. You know, he's a politician. He's Scranton Joe. That's what he does. He was waiting a little too long. Watch this, Drew. Watch his hand. And Obama, maybe Obama was like, oh, you know what they're going to say? So he let... It's a weird jerky move. too long. And Obama, maybe Obama, was like, oh, you know what they're going to say. So he let it, he wasn't leading them off.

It's a weird jerky move. And then he's at the G7 summit in Italy. They have access to startle. And there were paratroopers who were landing all around them. Now they just show, look at this, they just show him there. Looks like he's wandering off like a mental patient. But he was actually going to talk to one of the paratroopers who was there. Okay, the guy actually didn't talk to him, but that's what he was doing. The Democrats have to find a way to communicate.

I think that this guy is mentally there. Yeah. It's interesting. So he actually did a good job of, of, uh, presenting his case, but the, the needs of the client is guilty. Yeah. The problem is the right. Right. So he got corrupted because of his Trump deranger.

But there's the good mind, the good mind gets used on behalf of the delusion. Yes, that's right, that's the thing. That's what happens all in psychiatric problems all the time. Yes, but these people have been compromised because of their Trump derangement syndrome and because of their narcissism. So, okay, you ready for the sports analogy?

Yes, I am. Sugar Ray Leonard is fighting Roberto Duran for the first time. Sugar Ray Leonard is a more skilled boxer than Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray, and we can look it up, Sugar Ray may have been undefeated going into the Roberto Duran fight. And how is he beating everyone? You know, there's what specifics? How is he beating everyone?

He's more skilled and more skilled. Oh, okay. Thanks for that answer. I don't know what you're asking. Did he have a K.O.? What do you think? Did he have K.O.'s all the time? I don't really think about his history. You've never seen him box? I saw him in the Olympics once.

You've never seen a professional fight with Sugar Ray Leonard? No. No. What do you think his skill set is? I just think he was a great boxer. Great boxer. Yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly what you're- I'll write this down. Oh, stop doing this.

What was good about, Emmy, what was good about Sugar Ray Leonard? For me, it was his speed and talent. Speed. Speed, talent, ability. Talent. That's what I said, talent. Skill, talent. Speed.

Movement. So, his movement, on his feet, not his hands. Well, you remember Muhammad Ali? On his feet. What do you say? What was his ability? Dancing until he lost that ability. Right movement, speed. Well the clue is this when you go with the black boxer over the Mexican boxer it's usually speed, foot movement, agility, movement. Never know anything about Sugar Ray Leonard. Just saw him and like his like I think I thought probably saw the final moments

of his winning. I know him, I've seen him many times, but in a fight, only some of the final minutes of the Olympics. Speed and movement. Okay. All right. But what happened? Berto Duran, what was his skill set? Punching harder to defense. Okay. Yeah, 27 and 0 before Sugar Ray Leonard was. 27 fights, all missed by Dr. Drew.

Roberto Duran, know what his nickname was? No. Hands of Stone. No. Ah, a little familiar now? Hands of Stone. Little familiar now? Hands of stone? No. No?

So Sugar Ray was outclassing everyone using his speed movement. Now that didn't sit well with Roberto Duran because Roberto Duran wanted to go in the center of the ring and slug it out. That would fit him in his style, having to catch him. All right. So what did Roberto Duran do? We don't have to watch the footage of it, but what did Roberto Duran do? Well, Roberto Duran went on a press tour where he

called Sugar Ray Leonard's wife a whore and insulted sugar Ray Leonard and his wife and anyone around him and just call him pigs and whores and all that. What happened to sugar Ray Leonard? He got emotional and came in close and got clipped. He got emotional. He got angry and he said this guy's insulting me and now I'm gonna take him out. But he didn't take him out, because that wasn't his fight. His fight was movement. So by insulting him,

and by giving him the Trump Derangement Syndrome, you have taken otherwise smart people and sucked them in to doing something that they shouldn't be doing. So when are they gonna run into the hands of stone? Well they're running into it because no one is watching CNN or listening to anyone on The View or no one listens to any of these people anymore, especially vis-a-vis Trump. Anything Trump, it's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

Injected bleach, yeah, yeah, good people on both sides. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good people on both sides. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they've ruined their own credibility, just like Sugar Ray Leonard got ruined by being insulted by Duran and sucked into Duran's fight, and then he got clubbed, and he was not 27 and 0 when he left. He was 27 and 1. The next fight with Roberto Duran,

you know it. I know it. As the No Mos fight. You know the No Mos? No. Never heard that. No. You had to have.

Dude. You've heard it. Yeah, listen, remember I tell you there's songs you've heard you say you haven't heard it, then you have. And then I tell you there's TV commercials you say you haven't seen, but you have. You've heard of the no moss fight Okay, Roberto Durant said he had a stomachache in the eighth round and just never came out

He quit interesting. Why'd he quit? Because he got beat. Why is he getting beat? Because he Sure is fighting his fight. That's right. Yeah the second fight. He said I'm not doing it when I did the first fight. Also, he knew Roberto Duran was walking around eating and celebrating and drinking. He was living a good life. And Roberto Duran put on like 60 pounds and Sugar Ray Leonard was like, we gotta fight as soon as we can.

And he made Roberto Duran have to drop 50 pounds in two months, you know what I mean? And he knew that would fuck him up. And it did. And he went right back. So, Roberto Duran wins with strategy, really the first fight. And then Sugar Ray wins the second fight.

With reality, essentially. Well, no, what strategy as well. You know, he got him in early, he knew he was out celebrating, and he didn't want to take the fight that early, but the money and blah, blah, blah, and he also went right back to his style, which would be nice if Wolf Blitzer could get back

to whatever his style was, because people don't believe him anymore. I don't. I wonder why all these people got sucked into Trump derangement syndrome and it's narcissism. And now they've ruined their brand. Well, you know, a friend of mine was discussing something in the French politics this morning. He goes, I read this, I read that. I go, I don't care what's being printed. I don't trust

anything in print. Nothing. Zero. There's nothing. They've destroyed my interest and my ability to consume it because it's all bullshit. And that's not Trump derangement. That's something else. I was, this morning Scott Adams was talking about how social justice warriors all seem to be, have measurably dark triad sorts of components in their personality. What's the definition of dark triad sorts of components in their personality. What's the definition of dark triad? Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and narcissism. I think those are the three. They all have narcissism.

Yeah. It's all narcissism. Right. And so that's what destroyed print, right? It's not Trump derangement. It's this sort of group think, narcissism, inability to take in reality or just course. It's just this weird, weird syndrome. And now it's hit mainstream media too. The television outlets have the same exact thing where you just go,

I'll probably talk about this more next show, but I'm entertaining the hell out of myself watching and listening to French news. It's fantastic. So if people are aware there's a big election in France and they have a so-called far right extremist who is killing it in the elections and the polls. You familiar with what's going on over there? Yeah. And do you know what her policy is that's so crazed for people? I know that much like flying an American flag from your pickup truck now makes you a racist. Right, same stuff. Having borders and not having your country

overrun with Muslims and things like that makes you a white supremacist now in your country as well. Except it also makes you French. And so they've decided we have to protect what it is to be French, and so we're gonna have to take care of business here. So here's what we're gonna do. Marie Le Pen suggests they do is control immigration,

move people out or prosecute people who are violent or threatening even, uh, restore respect for the country. Uh, teachers at schools will have to be called vu now instead of chu, so no more casual stuff. Students will have to wear a uniform until 12th grade or something. And, uh, that's about it. That's her crazy radical kind of, I mean, she gets a little kind of, her rhetoric gets a little bit extreme, much like Trump does, but it's not, their actual policies are like,

you know, very pragmatic, we gotta bring things back, we gotta be French again, we gotta, and by the way, she was talking about how anybody can become French. She doesn't wanna limit it to white people or people with French descent, but you have to become French. You can't want to limit it to white people or people with French descent, but you have to become French. You can't be Syrian and be in Paris.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, diet and exercise. And yes, no, it's the same thing here. This is bizarre thing of like, we want everyone to be white or to be this or to be that. It's like, look, learn the language first and foremost. Not for me, for you. It's going to have a hard time in a country. We don't learn the language.

Remember Prop 186 when the people marched around saying we were destroying these kids because we weren't teaching them in their day to day. Bilingually or whatever. In six months, everybody spoke English. Kids are very good at language turns out I drove by MacArthur Park or whatever Park that was that was Completely overrun with homelessness echo and I'm gonna say go whatever when the one with the lake. Yeah both and I drove past there a couple years ago and They were drying their underwear Yeah, and t-shirts

on the sign, the big wooden sign that said, welcome to Echo Park, because they were washing their clothes in the lake and then drying it out. And there was encampments everywhere. The entire park had been completely taken over 100% by the homeless population. And at some point, some politician said, we're gonna clean up the park,

and then all the advocates went nuts, and everyone went nuts, and they do what they always do. And then at some point, they just showed up with bulldozers and fencing and whatever, and they douched a place out. They got- 2,000 pounds of human waste. Yeah, they got it all out of there,

and then they put some sod down or whatever it was and I drove past that three days ago and I just saw people walking and taking little paddle boat rides and pushing echo park pushing strollers and I went it's not that difficult. No, no, it really isn't. It really isn't. It helps the people you're so concerned about. You move them into treatment. Right, I'm just saying, I know, but when these are all bad ideas

that are not tenable ideas, and we've somehow decided that everyone gets a vote, and we needed to start listening, and we needed more women, and we needed more women and positions of power so they could balance things out. It's like, it's just these are bad decisions that don't work. You lose wars this way. It's no different at home than it is on the battlefront. You need sober decision making and you're going to lose a few soldiers along the way, but it's going to be for the greater good. And that's it. If you come here,

you come here legally, you learn the language, you assimilate, and you become what it is to be an American. That is it. You don't have to listen to Ted Nuchin. You don't have to drive a Ram pickup truck. You just have to assimilate. And I will tell you the next show is that what the reason I brought this topic up because the media's reaction is what's fascinating that's what I want to get into. They don't believe it themselves but that's fine. All right Eugene Oregon coming up at McDonald Theatre they doing stand-up there July 12th and then July 13th

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