The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1924 Silvia Sage Is Ready To Do It Again!

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

Adam and Dr. Drew welcome back pornstar & comedian, Silvia Sage, and she explains the wide world of OnlyFans, the do's and don'ts, and she explains the differences, and lack of judgment, between being on the site versus performing on pornographic movies. Plus, they discuss the lifespan of a pornstar's career, the possibility of an A.i takeover, and they take a couple of voicemails for Silvia on cuckolding and handling mismatched libidos in a relationship. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage, AdamandDrDrew.com For more with Silvia Sage: PODCAST: Sexy, Funny, Raw with Silvia Sage - on YouTube & all streaming platforms ONLYFANS: @SilviaSageXXX INSTAGRAM: @TheSilviaSage

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You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, get it on. Judge me, get it on. Dr. Drew's over here. Sylvia Sage is back. She's a veteran porn star, though. I don't know if people like the way that sounds. I don't like the way that sounds.

She's a newbie who's made 420 films, but that was in the first week. She's a newbie who's made 420 films but that was in the first week. So she's going in a week number two of her career as an adult actress. Oh they don't like porn star either. Also does some stand-up as well. Back in the studio. Good to see you again. You as well. Thanks for having me back. How's each endeavor going? Um good. Yeah I actually took a small break from stand-up but jumping back into it I have a show Sunday night at the Hollywood Improv so things are good. I don't work for a lot of companies in adult any longer but

mainly working for myself which couldn't be any better. Really? Yeah. So working for yourself let's say I think last time we spoke you worked it from your Unit, pardon the pun. Yeah, does that mean only fans? Yes Yeah, and I am so confused about only fans Adam. Maybe it makes sense to you, but it feels like They it could have a gun run the gamut from somebody a child opening Christmas presents Yeah to what whatever you choose to do on your own, your fans. It absolutely can. Anything from chefs to people giving workout advice,

to people doing what I do. That's so crazy. And there's no rules on how graphic or how far it goes sexually? There are rules. They do have a few things in place. Of course, you know, pee play, anything with blood, anything involving, of course, like animals and thank God, children, you know, nothing of that.

There are four levels. Yeah, yeah, I mean, sure, I get the child pornography part. I was just trying to think of something like pee play. It's not allowed. It's interesting because it goes into some zone where you kind of go, well, kids, that's a no-fly zone. And then you go animals. Well, that's a no-fly zone. But being violated with a bowling pin is fine. But pee. No urine. You've crossed the line. But first off, I peed on every friend I've ever known in high school a thousand times. Wedding the bed is different.

No, we didn't pee, we didn't pee play. Directed peeing. We didn't pee play far before it was frowned upon on the internet. Well, I guess what I'm saying is, I think if there was somebody, let's just do a hypothetical. We have daughters, but we'll leave them out of this.

Let's just say there's do a hypothetical. We have daughters, but we'll leave them out of this. Let's just say there's a woman you cared for deeply. I think I would rather watch her get peed on than be violated with a trophy. Well, you can't do things like trophies anymore either. So anything that is not an actual dildo can no longer be used for OnlyFans either. So if it's a banana or a penis. What if you took a bowling pin and you carved like a head on it and put the pee hole, painted it on.

You'd have to really talk to OnlyFans, but they definitely don't let you put anything that's not a penis into you. But what does that mean, talk to OnlyFans? Who are they? Is it like talking to YouTube kind of thing? Yeah, they're magical unicorns and they live in Narnia. No, just kidding.

There is people who run OnlyFans and there are people who kind of watch the content that goes on and what's allowed to be there. So here's a porn question, but maybe that's the reason it's all going a certain direction. I feel like we have enough porn to last us several lifetimes. I just feel like there's millions of depictions of pornography, you know,

going back to the 50s and the 60s. Whatever your lane is, it's crowded and it's there. And I think people are like, you know, forget about you, we'll go back to Christie Canyon or Nina Hartley. Did Christie Canyon need to film her 280 first porn? Or did we just had 280 depictions of her having sex with guys? Like, weren't we sort of, weren't we good on that? You know what I'm saying? And so is that why it's getting into the specific

sort of only fan realm or is it? I don't think it's because there's too much because there's always going to be someone new coming along, someone new that you wanna see. You know, somebody new, I get the somebody new and I get the ex Disney star that now is making their way into this realm. That's something else or the C-list celebrity, you know, I get that.

I'm saying a porn star's 300th porn movie. Like doesn't she need to start getting into specific OnlyFan kind of stuff? I mean, yes, because for the main part, when you when you go into only fans the nicest thing about it is you are now your own Boss you you book the shoots you make you know book your talent you decide what's going to happen in the movie It's just more you know on the performer and we used to work for a set amount of money and We would basically sell it to the company. You know, I make $2,000, $3,000 that day, and then never again. So now when we go into OnlyFans, we make all the money on our own stuff.

Nobody is, you know, keeping it and just paying us a small fee. So the reason everyone's going there is because it's put all the money and all of the, you know, authority back into our hands, which is nice. To Adam's point, isn't it all just going to go AI eventually? Yes, and thank God, I'm tired of doing the work. And so the question is, it'll be really interesting, when AI, will every single user, viewer be dialing in their own preferences and their own persons and stuff? Yes.

That's going to be weird. Here's what I'm curious about, Drew. You'll be able to make your own people can help me with this Well, okay That's an interesting thing, you know make your own person, you know, like you go Well, Jennifer Aniston would never do porn. Oh, yes, she would But here's I guess what I'm saying and this is the interesting part about the male mind and the female to a lesser extent

just because they're less involved with it, but What is in it for you like how does it work out for you sort of? Emotionally when it comes to pornography, you know, like the way guys are a Condom could ruin it in porn for a guy. Now what's a condom? It's a tenth of a millimeter of plastic over the guy's dick. Why is that a thing? It's like, well, I don't like it. I'm now... Distracted. Yes, I'm throwing my cape on and I said good day. No, I'm saying, why is this affecting you and your viewing of pornography? And it's like, I don't like it.

I like to know that... Well, by the way, some of that is the fact that they have so much to choose. They can demand anything. Yes. Back in the view of the Christie Canyon viewing days, you took what you got. No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is little things can ruin it. Yes. And things that you're not factoring in.

You know what I mean? It's like I don't like Alyssa Milano. Now I would love to see some Alyssa Milano porn, but if I knew some guy just cooked it up on the computer, I really wouldn't be interested. Do you see what I'm saying? That'd ruin it for you. Why? I don't know why, but that's a wiring. That's a male mind. You know, the guys want

to see women step on cockroaches and stiletto heels. You know what I mean? That's not me. I want to listen to Milano porn. I'm normal. I'm a Justin. I'm American. No, I'm saying if a condom can ruin it or knowing AI, or Jennifer Aniston didn't agree to this, she didn't make a porn movie, this is all general. Yeah, but it's an exact replica of what it would look like. And I'm like, I'm not interested because it's missing a dynamic

that's like a social psychological, you know what I'm talking about? Yes, absolutely. Also, but then on the other side, all the guys back in the on the other side all the guys Back in the day when there was all the one eight hundred or nine hundred numbers We had to talk, you know to call a real woman and talk to her get her to do stuff or whatever Not interested in the least never made a call never even thought about it knew I wasn't into it Just just like certain foods or something.

They go, you didn't ever dad chicken liver on your pizza? I'm like, no, no, just no. You wanna try it? No, no. You sure it's good? No, I'm not interested, not interested, never been. But then tons of dudes are totally interested. So the AI porn is gonna be weird

because it is gonna attract a lot of dudes, but there's a lot of purists like myself We're just gonna go no if this person's not the person that I'm not Interested you know I mean like it's like almost like it's almost a version of saying like a drawing of a nude woman versus a Photograph right, but AI is gonna get so good you're not gonna be able to tell. No, you're not gonna be able to tell, but you'll know Jennifer Aniston did not do a porn movie

and so thus the allure will sort of be gone. This preoccupation with celebrity porn is pretty intense. We know exactly who he wants to be in porn. I'd like to speak to her management. No, I am saying porn, sexuality, there's many other facets of play rather than just a pure visual recreation. Look, we have it with meat. You know what I mean?

They'll figure out a synthetic sirloin steak. It'll be a synthetic sirloin steak. They'll replicate the blood and the grain and the muscle and the tissue and stuff. And we won't like it. I mean, a lot of us won't. Isn't there already an Impossible Burger right now? Yeah, I mean, but that's not as good as an In-N-Out Burger.

But what I'm saying is, at some point, they will replicate it to the point where you cannot decipher and we will, there will still be steak houses that say 100% Angus beef. This is not made up in the lab and because we don't like it, because we know it. It's not a, it's not pragmatic per se. Although, yes. Well then I'm going to go AI as a 40 year old woman who no longer wants to physically be making the porn and then you can still have the new 20 year olds coming in who will make you the actual physical porn. And when you go AI, do you just license your likeness?

Yes. And is there ever, is there any attempt, I say this all the time, but I always find it kind of weird and chilling. I think somebody brought it up, and I can't remember who brought it up, but the guy that filmed Michael Richards dropping all the F bombs, sorry, N bombs. There's a lot of different bombs around. Dropping all the N-bombs on stage at the comedy store, or actually the laugh actor, I think it was, he sold it to TMZ for $100.

As I joked, Michael Richards would have paid double for that, maybe even triple to get that tape. Flip phone, this is 100 bucks, and this guy's career's literally been over for 20 years. But it makes you kind of think, like, oh my God, what he would have paid that guy for that. That guy at the time could say one million dollars and it would have been a bargain but so I think about and I was looking into this

these women who shot these pornographic films some of them just called loops you know just like 15 minute things with no sound or whatever in, you know, 1972 college student, 100 bucks, 150 bucks, thought this will never show up anywhere ever again. It's 1972, you know, family lives in Muncie, Indiana, just goes back to college. You know, there was an experimental kind of art house, New York college student kind of Time with pornography like with some of these people weren't like porn actresses are and more actors There was a HBO series about this. Oh, yeah, right the what's it called? I'm not real sex. No. No, it was with Can't remember the name of it. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying.

It was about 42nd Street essentially, in the early 70s. Yeah, so the question is, is they shot this thing, they didn't know it would end up anywhere except for played on a film, maybe it was a preview on some porn house or something, and now it's on the internet, and it's there forever, and it's been viewed 100 million times.

And they, I hope they invested that 100 bucks they got in 1973. Shouldn't they be compensated? I mean, that is a definite legal thing that I don't know a thing about. And see, it's weird to me that they could even have that because there's so much legal paperwork that goes into what we are able to put online right now and I mean we are jumping through hoops to even put pornography online at the moment so it's crazy to me that think that something that was made back then is still circulating especially without already having the legal courses that needed to be there. Well it's ending up Kyle you

you may put the information that I asked for you earlier on the screen. So put other info. There you go. Is the AI going to take away live performances entirely for the most part or entirely period? I mean, why would people can dial in exact preferences? Why would they? You know, I don't think it'll go away completely ever simply for, I mean, even the AI stuff that I am looking into signing at the moment it takes my porn that I've already created so it

does take my likeness but it also takes the movies I've already made and basically the movies that I've made I can turn myself in to a 20 year old redhead with bigger boobs and a smaller butt. You know, I can basically take the movies that I've made, put any kind of AI into it and recreate it that way. So there's still going to have to be a base of porn made in order for the AI to kind of recreate and simulate it. Is that going to change with the technologies, do you think? Or is that just?

That's a really good question. The technology is going faster than I can even keep up with at this point. How much less, for lack of a better term, judgment is there toward you and your profession in 2024 versus... I don't know what year you started, but you can tell me what year you started. I started in 2014, 10 years ago. It's definitely, it really depends on the space that you're in. I feel much more comfortable obviously in Los Angeles and, you know, New York than I would in my hometown of Kansas City per se. Just a more small town atmosphere, kind of the more religious places that you're in. The, you in, the shame and things of that nature get a little heavier in those places than they would on coastal cities.

But there's definitely a lot of shame that surrounds women and sexuality in general. So outside of being in pornography and taking money for it and having more partners than people think I should, just women in general really get sex shamed very hard. By whom? Again, just more of the religious communities. Over the years I've seen that... And doctors. What kind of doctors? I've definitely had some OBGYNs have some judgment things to say. Are they just worried about you or? Maybe, but it doesn't come off in that way, yeah. Well, female, it doesn't come off that way or you don't process it that way?

Because I'm sure they're not saying it in a sing-songy way. I've definitely had, and I've actually had this doctor written up for it, but handed me Kleenex and basically said, like, clean up your twat to me like yeah so have those been male or female doctors? It was a female doctor. So yeah so I was gonna say you do talked about the shaming in my experience women do more the shaming than men. Yes. I mean like almost all of it. Um I would not say all of it. I would not say all of it. Not all of it.

There are definitely a lot of the red pill gentlemen who show up on my page and want to make me feel like less than a human. So that is a giant part of the population, at least in my inbox. So the gyno was a female, and she handed you a Kleenex symbolically? I had tears running down my face from what had just happened in the room in general

and she handed me a box of Kleenexes and I went to go take one and she said they're for your twat not your eyes. And I thought, oh, so lovely. Sounds weird to me. Drew, you want to keep going? Well, it's just such a, you know, I just, the thing that I was sort of zeroing in on was the fact that women are sort of tougher on other women than almost any other population. Oh great. And especially when it comes to sexuality because it's threatening. There's all this literature that shows that when if

a woman is promiscuous, the men are like fine, they make note of it. A couple guys may be not okay with it, but the majority of men are like whatever But the women not only make judge gather shun As a group come back to the men and go stay away should be around her Oh, yeah, and this is and so when people say they're shame immediately the the sort of The world order goes all men man, there are totally these sort of religious men.

It's like, no, no, no, it's women. I'm sure there are men that engage in it, but the women are, and that's just, it never stops. But the women aren't coming onto my page and saying negative things. I understand, but it's just so, if women want women to be free and liberated, why the fuck do they do that all the time? Women hate women. That's the problem.

If I hear another woman go, I don't get why we don't all band together. We need to support each other. Kamala Harris is a woman. Why aren't the women, why aren't the female comedians supporting the other female comedians? Why aren't the female porns are supporting? Women fucking hate each other, that's why.

End of discussion. As a guy We're not confused I don't go why are the males supporting me? Why don't the male comedians? Support this guy right here. Come on now. I don't I do not agree with that. Oh, you know, I don't think it's 100% accurate. Yeah, I don't think women hate women I think that women are definitely stepping out and supporting women a lot more and I do get a lot of uplifting from women, especially, you know, in this town and even in the comedy world. I do get more support from women than I think I do men. I will say that. To your face. Women wait for you to leave. Guys do it overtly.

Women wait and then the talk starts. Well that's what the literature shows, they come back around and talk to men. They gather together quietly, not to your face. Listen, try this little experiment at home. Have your lady friend hang up the phone with one of her lady friends that she was just sugary sweet with for 15 minutes on the phone, and see if the tone changes when she's downloading to you what Robin's up there Well, maybe try that experiment at home There's a little variation between the tone on the phone and then with you that could be us

Misinterpreting, you know what? No, it's not it's them being full of shit with their friends. Hmm. Come on Well, I'm just saying they may love their friend, but still need to sort of download. There's a big thing, which is we need women should support women. It's like the black community should support the black community. Okay, guess who shoots the black community? Black men. I'm just saying move on. That's not happening. We wish it would happen. I'm going to have to do it with you agree on which one the black man. I'm agreeing to disagree completely I think you're on the black community Do I think that black people don't support who shoots the majority of black people? Okay?

I'm not going into guns just disagree. You just disagree. I think black people support black people and I think women's all right Who shoots majority of black people? I don't know, probably police? Well, you disagree, no? That's a thousand percent wrong. I haven't done my research. Well, then why did you disagree? I just agree to disagree that women don't support women and that blacks don't support blacks because I think there are people doing that.

I think that maybe just not the mass majority of what you see, but I don't think that it doesn't exist. All right, no one knows what you said. Okay. Okay. But just don't disagree unless you have evidence to support it, is what I'm saying. That I think women support women, that is what I'm saying. And blacks support blacks. I do think that that happens.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying the majority of black people get shot by black people. What are the numbers, you know? It's overwhelming. What do you think? I think it's like what, the cops are in the hundreds and... Cops are in the teens. Teens, yeah, and the black on black crimes in the multi-thousands.

Yes. Yeah. So, there's my example. Yeah. Got it. Okay. So, but there was something to hear about you having been forced to deal with a lot of abusiveness from outside the porn industry?

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Is that what we're talking about? Is that sort of the same topic? Yeah, absolutely. I think just, you know, people in general assume that if I'm in sex, I'm uneducated or that I have, you know, family issues or a drug issue or some kind of concern like that in my life. That there isn't any way I would be in my profession as an educated, intelligent, you

know, mentally stable human. And I think there's a lot to unpack there as well. How's the family? Are they okay with this? Have they gotten over it? Yeah, my family's actually incredibly supportive. My mother is very religious and is very involved in the church.

So she has a little issue, but in the same way that I have issue with religion, so we just agree to disagree and we don't discuss those topics. Does it affect romantic relationships? What you do? Yes, 100%. I have found that in the dating world,

people always think it's interesting in the beginning, and then there is almost always an issue. They can't do it. Yeah. I think at the beginning, it probably draws them in. Of course it does. Guys have a huge capacity to kind of do the to be intrigued sexually about something and then go back at a later date and sort of use it against the person. You know that's a guy MO thing. So it's like I don't think it's a neutral guy who goes

whatever I'm not judging and then at some point Do it I think it allure it lures a certain type in Initially and then that type turns it around at some point. So it's almost Is that in a sad way it's like doomed to failure because it does attract these guys And then those guys are the guys who will turn it at some point. And if you you know wanted to get out in order to have a stable or more sustained relationship would it be hard? Um it would be just because it'd be really hard to leave behind the financial success that I get. And so what I've seen people transition out before

there's something about they talk about the lifestyle or something, something about it as alluring to them and the money. Yeah, well it's the freedom, you know, and there is a safe space within the porn community where it is very judgment free within our community. So it's very hard to leave such a safe space and then go back into the world that judged you so harshly and go, okay, now I'm one of you normal people again. There's no, I think in the past, you could deny this stuff. Like in the back to the 70s girl who shot the loop, she could go on in 1981 and get married

and say nothing of her past and be pretty damn confident she could get away with it. I wonder how many of those women are having the, the jig is up moment when it hits the internet 31 years later. You know what I mean? Not plausible deniability. Doesn't look the same same it's 30 years old down the line I think we would hear about it or if it really happened like

that more kind of let's figure this out you do this loop that I spoke of or a couple of films art housey porny New York you like we're talking about 1975 you get married in 81. You tell the guy, you know, you were a bartender all through college or whatever, no discussion of it. At some point in 2004, it makes its way to the internet. 30 years, yeah, right? Yeah, well the guy married you five years

after you made the movie. 25 years. He can see the movie. movie, don't you think? I would think, but I'm surprised you don't really have plausible deniability. Well, where do you talk about it? I mean, well, but if it happened, I could see somebody going,

well, it does look like me, look at that, hey. It looks like you, it sounds like you. It looks like AI to me, I don't know. I don't know, it's definitely had to happen, but you can't walk, you can't meet a strange guy and go, this is not me. That's my birth control alarm, so sorry. That's a birth control alarm?

Really? I don't wanna have porn babies. Yes, you do. Oh, you gotta take it at the same time? Yes, you do. Oh, you've got to take it at the same time every day. Yes. Not just every day. I didn't know that. Ideally.

Ideally. Some people are really sensitive, too. Oh, okay. Well, we don't have much time left, but in the interest of accuracy, do you want to take your birth control? I'll take it as soon as we're done. I would take it at the same time. Drew says certain people are very sensitive. Not within minutes but within hours. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Don't forget. Yes I want. Do we have, I don't know, I'm told we have voicemails if we want to get into some of that or did Drew do you have some more questions? No, no, I wanted to hear this one question.

Yeah, yeah. Hello, Adam, Drew, Sylvia. We have a voicemail left by Jackie and so I'm going to let you listen to it because I do think it's a fascinating, a very particular fascinating specific sexual question. Great. Thanks for setting the table, Kyle. Just play the voicemail. Thanks for setting the table, Kyle. Just play the voicemail. Hey, guys. This is Jackie. Hey, Sylvia, Adam, and Dr. Drew, big fans of all three of you. I am curious about cuckolds and whether that kind of dynamic can actually exist and thrive

in a marriage. And no, I'm not talking about my own marriage, I promise. But I am curious because I know a cuckold and he really wants to open up to his wife about being able to have another man have sex with her and be humiliated at the same time. Where does that come from? How would a cuckold approach their wife about that? And do you think that that kind of sexual relationship realistically could be sustainable?

Yeah, okay, thanks guys. Good question. I don't know. I don't know where everyone's gonna come down on this. That's what like Sylvia go first. Yeah Okay, um well for me. I think it is sustainable I think that the best thing that any relationship can do is have open communication About their sexuality and that should be the one person you should be able to take your fantasies to for for anything You should be able to go to that person and talk take your fantasies to for for anything. You should

be able to go to that person and talk your sexual fantasies and whether they're comfortable with it or not. And if it's something she's into, definitely something to pursue. I think as a female, if someone brought that to my attention, I would be overwhelmingly excited to have a new sexual partner. And if it were something that we were going to get my husband or boyfriend or partner off, I would also be very excited by that because I'm very much into everyone having the full sexual experience that they can possibly have. The problem I see whenever people, there's sort of two common things that go on. One is when you open up a long-term relationship, you never know what feelings are going to emerge, right?

And so the guy that has been selected to do the cuckoo thing, would that be the active verb? I guess. You never know that often, not infrequently, magically the female partner suddenly wants to kind of keep going with that guy and some feelings emerge that are unanticipated. And the other thing that people don't think about

is oftentimes those sorts of intense experiences and needs for something like this has a kind of an addictive quality with it, and it progresses. And it's more, now more, guys, and more things, and it becomes a full-blown sexual addiction that goes places they never expected it to go. I agree with all that.

And there's a bigger, probably the bigger issue is it's not gonna work. Ultimately, big picture. I think it's good once or, you know, it's good for a limited amount of time. Yeah. But if that's the guy's thing, he's gonna keep going. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, well, there's a few different reasons

why it's not gonna work. It's just not gonna work. I would assume if somebody said this to me, I would say, you may engage in this, but I don't, if you get back to me in two years, I do not think you're gonna be married to this person or whatever that thing is. I don't know, I like it.

It's akin to saying, you know what, traffic in this town is too tough, I'm getting a motorcycle and I would just go Okay, I mean it may work, but I think that you I just I think there's gonna be an accident You know like I just don't I wouldn't do it. That's what I'm saying, and I'm not saying You could split lanes and be be across town half hour, but you may do it for eternity But I'm worried. I think there could be an issue. And if you said to me,

would you want your son riding a motorcycle? I'd go, no, no. If my kid, if your kid came to you and said, I'm in a committed relationship, I'm married to this person, maybe, I don't know, have kids or something, I would like to open it up and do this. I would go, I don't think, have kids or something. I would like to open it up and do this. I would go, I don't think that's gonna work out.

Yeah, I guess I just don't see it in like a, I never envisioned something like that in a long term. So I kind of see it more as the same way that you might introduce like maybe we should try a threesome or something like that. To me, it's a special occasion type of thing. So I didn't see it as, oh, let's take our, it's called a bull by the way,

the man who comes in and fucks. Called the bull. It's the bull. So I wouldn't imagine going, oh, let's take our it's called a bull by the way the man who comes in and fucks Oh the bull it's the bull so I wouldn't imagine going Oh now we're a throuple and we keep our bowl with us the entire time I view it as it's a it's a experience that you want to experience sexually and you try it out I don't the other Component of this for me is I don't trust the guy who wants to see that as being sort of pure of heart. I think this would drift into other facets of this relationship in this matter. I don't see, I guess the question, so it's a chicken or the egg kind of question, which is to say, if you took just an average

couple, married couple, got along great, strong relationship, kids, whatever, community, everything was good, and you just went, look, here's my proposition. I got this bull, he's in the van, it's a cuckolding situation, and I'll give you a I'll give you ten million dollars if you just do this one time I would trust them to figure it out down. I don't trust the guy who wants it. Hmm that that's what I'm saying I don't like his cuck or the bull the cuck. No the bulls the bulls Know who he is. It's a gun for hire, but that the cuck I don't I don't know who he is. It's a gun for hire, but that the cock I don't I don't trust his motivation I don't I don't trust him in other words Whatever creates that desire for humiliation is gonna come out in her personally in other ways that are gonna be a problem

But I will say a big part of cuck holding is that the man the cuck who wants his wife to usually fuck someone else It's usually because he has a less than average penis and he likes to watch his wife get off by a bigger and more well endowed gentlemen hmm Interesting so it's almost like it's a Wanting him to have wanting his wife to have a more pleasurable sexual experience, which that is why he's getting off to it Telling yourself that that's not why that's not what he wants. Yeah, that's what I, yeah, I mean that's... She even framed it. He may say that. No, no, no, the caller said he wants to be humiliated. Oh, the cop? Yeah, because his dick is small. I don't know that for a fact. I'm just saying there's an issue and...

I would think the small dick guy would be sensitive to humiliation, wouldn't seek humiliation. Oh, you'd be so surprised. That's a huge part of what I get requests for. Now, I don't do it because I don't do penis humiliation, but a lot of people do. How does penis humiliation work? You basically just tell them how small their penis is, how it would never satisfy you or any other woman and you just basically play to them and how unimpressive their penis is. Do those guys actually have small penises typically? Yeah.

Okay. They send you a picture of their small penis they send you a picture of their small penis? And then you make fun of their small penis? And they pay for it. Yeah, see, I don't trust that guy either. There's a lot of people I don't trust, you know. Now, I wonder what percentage of small penis guys who forward a picture of their small penis is actually their small penis.

Oh that's interesting. I wonder. Is that your... That's the birth control pill again. Saying you didn't take it. Is that what that is? Oh. She's taking it now. I thought it just went away when I turned it off. I'm so sorry for the interruption twice. Alright, what do you got Drew? We had another voicemail. There was another voicemail out there. Sure. So that's on my screen, we have one more. Yep.

All right. This is anonymous. Hey, this is for your episode with Sylvia Sage. I have always wondered, how would you say you handle mismatched libidos in a relationship without one partner feeling neglected or pressured? I'm kind of in a situation like that right now.

All right. Thank you. I'm also in a situation like that right now. So any advice? You are? Super common. Super common. Routine.

Your libido is? Is way higher than his. So what, well, let's figure out what that translates into just sort of mathematically before we endeavor to answer the question. How far off are you guys? Pretty far. I would like to have sex daily and I would prefer multiple times a day

and he's a couple times a week. Which is sort of average. And can he keep up? Can he just not able? Just doesn't try. Can you just not able? Mm-hmm. It just doesn't try Yeah, they see older younger younger younger, but I'm always the aggressor Do not like that. I do not like that Well, I would say in terms of the aggressor part or like saying always the aggressor

Once a rhythm is set in a relationship, like I park in the garage and you park on the street, you just go, well, that's just what it is. That's our rhythm. That's our rhythm. Like that's who cooks the dinner, who cleans the dishes. Like guys will slide into, if that's what this is, that's what we're doing.

Well, men have, they always get things into the zone that they like. And if you need to change, you gotta tell them. You gotta got to say, Hey, this isn't, we're going to do something a little different here. And usually men aim to please if he can. And, you know, the reality is, oftentimes, for instance, with, first of all, make sure no one's on medication or anything like an antidepressant or something, that's really fucking everything up. But medicines also are the answer too. I mean for women with low libido it's often postpartum or premenopause and little hormone therapy markedly changes their libido. And so things can be just restored with a little sort of restoration of normal

hormonal balance. And then for the men, I mean there's, you can use PDE5 inhibitors like Vagra, that kind of thing. And then he can hopefully, I mean there's you can use PDE 5 inhibitors like back or that kind of thing Yeah, and then he can hopefully keep up. I just slip him into dinner You know, why won't he do it just do it because you want to do it. I don't understand Well, I mean there's also an element of I think sometimes when women are charged sexually guys Recoil a little bit guys do are a lot of talk, a lot of tough talk, but when women come on hard to some guys, guys do kind of get into a defensive posture

or something like that. I mean, I think there's a little misnomer that guys are good to go all day, every day. Those guys are like, if I was on an airplane and I knew it was gonna crash, I'd just bang the first hottie in the bathroom. You know, I was like, no you fucking wouldn't. You would be crying and screaming in terror. You wouldn't get a boner and bang the stewardess

in the bathroom. No, you wouldn't. Guys kinda like to put that out there. By the way, never heard that, but interesting. You never heard the airplane-rape crash in the serum? Guys put that out there. By the way, never heard that, but interesting. You never heard the airplane rape crash in Durham? Guys, put that out there. No, a lot of guys do, yeah! A lot of guys will do.

I'm sympathetic by you. Well, they'll do the, like, what if you knew you were gonna die in an hour? They'd go, I would bang this shit out of the first five chicks I saw walk by my apartment. You know, wouldn't you be grieving and crying and clutching a teddy bear, you know so guys have a kind of

Oversized sort of comic book version of their sexuality And the reality is is they're good for a couple times a week, you know normally also I did with guys. I Mean, I don't know Drew can speak to this but you know, there's a there's a physiological Mechanical process that goes on with guys where it's like guy has sex and Ten minutes later you go. It's time to come again and he goes I can't I know fluid Yeah, I got I'm just gonna take a minute here, you know a woman some which is ten minutes later. Here we go Yeah, let's do it again. You know, I mean, so there's there's a minute here, you know a woman some which is ten minutes later. Here we go. Yeah, let's do it again

You know, I mean, so there's there's a little sort of Physiology. Yeah, some guys need to build it up, but I would I would think it's more I Mean hit that's his rhythm. I also everyone just sort of has a rhythm But young guys are two or three times a day kind of dudes. Can you introduce me to those men? They're looking at us. You're talking to the doctors in. He's a man of passion.

Yeah, I mean, it's a weird one. It's a tough one to answer because coming on harder and more often sometimes gets them in a defensive posture, I would say. So I don't know if that's the answer. Maybe I'm attacking too hard. Is that what you're telling me, Adam? I feel I would feel like a better approach would be to hang back, even if try hanging back a little bit.

But she's going to have to make it clear to him that he's going to he needs to double down. He's if she's going to hang back, he's gonna, he needs to double down. If she's gonna hang back, he's gotta double up on his efforts. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with anything, back to the car analogy. If you just had one car and you shared it with him, and you were driving it eight times,

and he was driving it two times, you know, we're just gonna go, let's go four and four. You know what I mean? Like, all right, I want this. Your rhythm is this, my rhythm is that. We'll see if you, why don't you step up a little. I'll come down a little bit, and we'll see if we can find this place.

And you gotta tell them how it makes you feel to have to be the initiator, how diminishing that is. Yeah, absolutely. Sylvia said, should we plug? I don don't know I don't have any plugs for you And where but a lot of things you can find my podcast which is a sex education podcast called sexy funny raw It's on YouTube and all streaming networks. You can find my only fans at Sylvia sage xxx I'm also on Instagram as the Sylvia sage So till next time Adam Crawford Sylvia sageageXXX. I'm also on Instagram as TheSylviaSage. So, until next time, Adam Kroll for Sylvia, Sage and Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.

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