The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1925 Outlawed Head Smacks

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Dr. Drew kicks off the week sharing a crazy dream he recently had to get Adam's take, he shares some childhood trauma, and Adam explains the struggles of editing. Plus, they dissect the hyperboles of shame & lying, then they watch the controversy behind the FEMA meeting involving the disasters in North Carolina. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage, AdamandDrDrew.com Please Support Our Sponsor: This Episode is Sponsored by BetterHelp, BetterHelp.com/AdamandDrew

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Yeah, get it on, got to get on the Dr. Drew's Board First Side Section, Dick's Section, First Chair Sectionist. What's going on, Drusker? So I had a really interesting dream that posed a crazy philosophical psychological dilemma and I thought I should I should propose this to Adam and see what he would do. You ready? It's a story. It was a vivid dream and it was about shame, which is something I know a little bit about, having been a child of trauma, whatnot. So. Well, why were you a child of trauma? Well, the emotional abuse by my mom and my dad. What was really, what was the, you know,

the source of abuse? The most of it, yeah. Most of it was, I mean, yelling, hostility. Really? Oh my God. And I only heard somebody yell like that once in my life. I was about ten years into working in the psych hospital and I was in the locked ward. And I thought, oh, that's that. That's that. Did your dad yell too? No. He was holding everything together.

No, no. His thing was... Well, I know you were talking about trauma and then you wove your dad into it as well. Well, his thing was a quiet, hey, if you don't meet my expectations, you'll destroy me. I'll die. I'll die. Or you go visit me in the poorhouse. Remember that whole thing? I wonder if this is where you got your chick-like hyperbole. From her. Because you exaggerate by 25 percent.

Emotionally. You emotionally exaggerate. Is that emotion? I think I just generally exaggerate. Well you generally exaggerate, but you emotionally exaggerate. I would argue that- Which is a chick thing. It's a chick thing and it's a character flaw of mine that I have to watch very carefully.

I don't know quite what's fueling it, but I'm aware of it. Well, because your dad would say, you're driving me to the poorhouse, which is, you know, you wanted it, you wanted a quarter for the ice cream truck, you know what I mean? So that's hyperbole. His, oh, his hyperbole. His exaggeration of what is going to happen because you wanted something that cost a nickel is an exaggeration.

No, it's better. It's a great insight because I was just talking to somebody recently and he was saying, you know, when you get anxious or when you get this kind of worried about expenditures or something, it has an existential quality to it. Yes. And that's hyperbole. Right, so you taking the mortgage, taking the deed from the house and going to the track and betting it all on Lucky Lindy is not hyperbole

when you say you lose, we're going to the poor house. That isn't, but the quarter for the ice cream truck is. So everything had an existential quality to it. Well, it's a chip thing where they blow everything up into this is going, oh, I forgot my bathing suit. The vacation is ruined. You know what I mean? It's not ruined.

You don't have a bathing suit, but we'll go get you one. Well, it's hysteria. It's hysteria. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hysterics. It's hysteria, which is, yes,

which is blown into some sort of zone of things are ruined or that we're going to the poor house or whatever it is, and you have that. Yes, and I think I'm seeing it more and more in people these days which is shocking me. Yeah well. But it's going full on into delusion. Well as men start thinking like women now it's all of us. It used to be sort of your dad was there to shake your mom and slap her and go snap out of it. You know like stop it. Now your dad's screaming like a chick.

You hit your man, oh woman, upside of the head. And now we're fucked. Oh, greatest clip ever. It is the great, is that Kyle sitting in there? Oh, Kyle, you've never heard the great Deacon Jones, Kyle doesn't know what a fucking Deacon Jones is. He's a, oh he does? Kyle knows a lot of stuff, but then, He doesn't know what fucking Deacon Jones is. He's a. Oh, he does? Kyle knows a lot of stuff, but then.

Since the linemen 70s. He doesn't know what a Porsche 911 was. Three weeks ago I told him what a Porsche 911 was. Three weeks ago. Wow. Never heard of a Porsche 911. To, to. He didn't know what it was.

But to the young male of the. No, no, there's no excuse. The boomer age, that seems incomprehensible. It seems like not. It's incomprehensible to a chimp. But anyway, but he covers a lot of other ground. He does an interview. Teacon Jones, is this?

Just listen to this. And here's what I want you to wrap your mind around, Kyle. This, okay, first things first. This thing lived on the NFL network for 30 years. This, okay, first things first. This thing lived on the NFL network for 30 years. I, Adam Carolla, heard it one night watching the NFL network about 15 years ago, maybe, no, 20 years ago, and blew a horn. I said, this is insane.

This is insane. And everyone's like why? We just aired on the NFL Network every time. And then I got in and started screaming about it on the radio and then they edited it. But it lived for 30 years unedited in a package that has B-roll in it where you can chop it and edit it at any point. You're talking to a guy who makes documentaries. You can edit when you're showing B-roll in it where you can chop it and edit it At any point you're talking to a guy makes documentaries you can edit when you're showing B-roll You just cut and bring the voice back and what listen to this Atkins flood of breaking arms was the reality of the Deacon Jones head slap The head slap was to do two purposes one was to give myself an initial head start on the fast rush. In other words, a extra step. Because anytime you go upside a man's head, old woman,

they may have a tendency to blink their eyes or close their eyes. And that was all I needed. David Deacon Jones, the greatest David of all time. Was a defensive man whose head slap maneuver helped him intimidate offensive... This is filmed from a TV set and put on the internet because it's been scrubbed Yeah on the internet, but but it was 30 years of living on the internet. Yeah 30 years of being aired or no executive at the NFL Network raised her hand and went Why don't we just cut the woman part out of it? Let's go anytime you go upside a man's head and we'll cut and we'll show him going upside

Yeah, an offensive lineman's head. We can just cut it there and go to the footage. No, no, let him finish. Or a woman. We don't have footage of him going upside a woman's head. We have footage of him going upside a man's head. And at least today we would in today's world. You have no idea how bad everyone is at their fucking job until you ask them to edit something

You ask them to edit you just sit there and watch it and you go. Well, what the fuck is this and they go? Okay, like there, you know, they don't argue with you then I got I made an artistic choice I go you want to cut out the lady part you go. Yeah, and they go Okay That every edit every time anyone's edited anything. Yeah But that that's that's you get you make a fucking independent film. Mm-hmm You have to sit in the edit bay every single in edit the entire fucking thing. There was no such thing as an editor Yeah, there's such a thing as a guy pushes buttons and argues with you. Yeah

But they ruin every joke, they ruin every scene, you sit in there. You see their edited version of your movie cut, you watch that thing and you go, oh my God, we made a piece of shit. Like we made an unfunny piece of shit. That's what you will say if you watch the professional editor's cut.

Then you go in and you sit and you take apart every fucking scene and edit it yourself That's how all of it works while they argue with you're not being the time not being dramatic or hyperbolic. I Had a medical show once where I relied on a guy to edit this sequence We were doing surgery and I said hey put in I want to see the part where he holds up the uterus and the fallopian tubes and points out all the structures yeah got it it's cut to his hands just in there so where's the where's the net he goes I don't know what that is how am I supposed to I'm like ask me they never it's it's I had an editor argue and argue and argue and I'd go it would work this way that joke will work if we do it this way shit

He would tell me I'd go. Well, do we have some exterior shots and establishing shots of the place? That's what we need. No, we don't have any of that. It's like I we don't I thought we shot that No, we don't have it. And at some point I make him look and we find an exterior. They're the fucking worst. They're hacked I'm looking at you Kyle. You ever think you're gonna make a movie. You're not hiring an editor You are going to edit the fucking film You will do it And there's a haven editor and and when you try to get these guys to do comedy or work a joke or land a joke Never never you I sat in this room

That is two feet from us right here and just edited the entire fucking film And only thing I had to do was argue with the guy mostly about shit. Anyway, everyone's a colossal fuck up. So that is the greatest clip of all time. Yes. Men and women have a tendency to blink when you go beside them.

Blink their eyes. He explained it, women blink as well. I'd say more so than a professional strong side tackle in terms of blinking their eyes. I think a women blink even more. So maybe as a maybe as an even more valid point when it comes to the ladies. He's just describing what happened. Well considering there is never been a female to play on the offensive line in the NFL,

it really limits his sort of. Where this happened. Well, we would like to defend the man because he's a legend, but since we're only talking about football and no woman has ever played in the NFL, it's tough. So we're not going to cross the line from him. No, no, I will stand by my no woman. I don't know what you just did there, Drew. No woman has ever played in the nfl

Editor, yeah cut cut done chop right there. Nope. Certainly not across the line from him Now that just enters question marks true. Maybe somebody did play in the nfl who was a female fair enough All right, but but we would edit that out. Yeah, yeah How if we had a life editor. Yeah You had one I have one. It's called my brain So Prima what no, what's the history of them outlawing the head smacks? Are they they slowly get rid of all the head trauma stuff?

If somebody does that from the defensive line, what's the violation? Uh, then maybe legal use of hands. That's what it would be. No, I'm saying that, but the same thing as if they go lead with their head and hit the quarterback. Unnecessary roughness, I think they would call it. Targeting. Yeah, targeting.

All right, so. Trauma, would call it. Targeting. Yeah, targeting. Alright, so I- Trauma, dream. Dream. Alright, so I'm playing baseball. Just suspend your disbelief for a second. I'm at a baseball game. It's sort of a celebrity baseball game, but everyone's playing at a very high level. Like, remember we used to go to those games? There was a lot of good ball being played. Well, they played hardball. And Tony Danza used to pitch and remember it was a good, we had, anyway

not an issue. So I'm at one of those types of games. For some reason it's, you know how dreams are, it's also a business where I'm an employee and the boss's daughter gets up to the plate. And she's actually an accomplished, she can really swing a bat. And she's an excellent baseball player. I have a conversation with her about how impressive her level of play is. And she's like, yeah, I really want to compete

at this level and she seemed a little fragile, but still wanted to, like, I want to show you what I made of, what I can do here. She connects, I'm playing catcher at that point, somehow I go to catcher position. She connects, hits something to the track, great hit, the centerfielder has to run after it, she makes it around the bases and is heading down the third base line, and the ball comes to me. Okay, and I'm thinking to myself Shit do I tap out the boss's daughter?

And as an homage to her level of play she wants to really play at this level It would be an insult to her to let it let her touch hang out What did I say term you're looking for tap out is now a term from the US fair enough to tag out and I tap out is now a term from the UFC. Fair enough. Tag out. And I was, I literally was thinking as I'm watching her run down third base line, like, look, she wants to play at this level, be an insult to her for me to magically let her go into the home. It's like dealing with a seven year old. This is an adult. She wants to play. I tag her out. Everybody's mortified. Oh, really? Mortified. She's confused.

Like, I had a home run. And the boss, confused. Like, you tagged her out. What are you thinking? She's a young girl. She wants to... And the next day, there was a lot of consternation, but the next day it comes up again in a meeting and I'm ashamed.

Like, how could you do that? What are you thinking? And I thought wow, that's an inch I still feel like in my heart in the dream. I did the right thing. Mm-hmm. And yet Maybe it wasn't Hmm. What's your take? What's the crystal brain tell me? Because it was I was so ashamed that I had done it. I was so, I literally was holding books up to my face and covering my face in this meeting. I was so ashamed of what I had done and yet it felt like the right thing to do.

Yeah, I don't think that's much of a moral dilemma. The way you processed it was sort of strange. So I shouldn't have felt shame? No. Okay. No, I mean, you shouldn't have felt shame the way, I didn't feel any shame during COVID when everyone was telling me I was bad and wrong. I just went, no, I'm not.

Or I didn't care, you know? Well, in that you're- I knew I did the right thing by advocating for schools to reopen and not wanting to wear a mask. I knew I was right. So I didn't really care, which is a weird process for other people because they're like, why don't you care like they're angry because I don't care Yeah, and I'm like, I just don't care what you should join me and not caring it be an easier life for you and they're Upset that I'm not upset at them being upset. You know what I mean? You're making the call you're telling me you're telling me I made the right move because it was the right thing to do in all respects and yet everybody expected something different and was confused by the choice. That's the... Well that's the new world we're living in. It's weird, right? People having these reactions to things that don't... you don't seem to

react... I don't seem to react to. I get told every other day that we're facing an existential climate threat, and I don't give a fuck. So you're saying we're dying. I have two kids. They're 18. Al Gore is saying they're not going to see their 31st birthday. And this guy doesn't give a fuck. Yeah. That's a weird place to live. Outgoer's a genius. He's decorated. He's he's learned. He's made documentaries. And he's telling me my son is basically going to be floating on a chunk of ice with a polar bear when he's 30. And I go, I don't give a fuck. That's a weird, one of us is lying.

One of us is wrong. One of us is wrong, right. One of us is wrong. And I might seem like a bad person. And I'm telling the LA teachers union to reopen the fucking schools and call them pussies, tell my kids to go back to school. I guess I don't love my kids.

Is it gonna get a disease and die? So someone's wrong. Well, there's something interesting in this. I wanna drill in a little further. So you're through telling me you wouldn't care, you're also telling me it's the right choice and that's why you wouldn't care, but I have shame. I know, I don't care.

And so do you not experience shame? Is that toxic shame from my trauma that we talked about earlier? I decide who is right and who is wrong in this exchange. I'm critical and then moving on. Once I have vetted myself, if I you know, we'll get basic. If I'm meeting someone for lunch and I'm five minutes late and they stand up and yell, meal ruined, and storm out, I don't think anything about it.

I just go, something's wrong with that person. That's their, whatever. And if they call later and go, pa, apologize for ruining the meal. I go you ruin the meal You got up and left I was five minutes late Now yeah, but if I'm an hour and a half late, oh, yeah, I'll be hard on myself Yes, I would apologize, but you're like me too. That would not happen. You know what I mean? It would never happen, but if it did, I would be...

You would expect that reaction from people, in fact. I would be very upset with myself. So I will decide whether my stance, not to wear a paper mask during COVID, if I'm in fact endangering people of color or I'm not. I'll decide. And then you can call me whatever you want. Once I'm clear in my head that walking on this horse trail in La Cunha with no mask is not a hate crime, then I shall walk on that trail and have no thoughts about it And if you then come to me and ask me for an apology For endangering people of color because I didn't want to wear a mask on a horse trail in La Cuneta

I'll just tell you to suck my dick and that'll be that and we'll move on But if I did hurt a person of color through not wearing the mask, then I will apologize. Yeah, I the but The bottom line is I don't believe people anymore. Well I think they're lying when they tell me shit. See I think way too much accusations of lying on all sides. I think Al Gore is a liar at this point. I think there's cognitive dissonance, I think there's weird motivation. What Al Gore is doing is, if you go to the American Cancer Institute or whatever, they will tell you smoking cigars

is as dangerous as smoking cigarettes. And then you go, they don't inhale cigars, so why is that as dangerous? And they go, move it on. Just as dangerous. And you go, well, I see guys smoking cigars in their 90s. I don't see people smoking in their 90s.

They go, justice dangerous. Okay, what are they doing? Well, they're doing what Al Gore does. They're lying. Well, they're also doing. But why are they lying? They don't want you smoking cigars. So they lie.

That's how it works. Well, hang on a second. So Al Gore is lying, but he's lying because he wants you to recycle. So it's okay to lie. Let me go back. You see what I'm saying? Yes.

Let me go back to where I used hyperbole myself. Why don't you go back to your spot there. All right, I'll do that. Read the thing on the thing that Emmy puts up there. I'm focused on you, my friend. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. October is the season for costumes, and maybe you feel a little bit fake, maybe like you're sort of wearing a mask all the time, not the COVID mask, an actual psychological

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today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp, H-E-O-P dot com slash adamandjew. All right. So what were you talking about there, Drew? The imposter syndrome got me thinking too. But no, we were thinking about shame and I was talking, you were talking about hyperbole and quote lying. And you know, all I see in Twitter is you're lying, you're lying, just because somebody has an opinion they disagree with. That is, I think that is disgusting when people do that. So I urge people to, to, but hang on, gently, let me tell you where I did it. You tell me if I was lying. So we're now back in the AIDS day, okay?

Before you started Loveline, I was very involved with AIDS treatment and those patients and in the public messaging around it. And Dr. Fauci was my hero at the time. And he was telling us, use fear, you got to scare them. There's going to be two million dead if we don't get people to change their behavior. And we didn't know how to change particularly young people's behavior particularly sexual behavior And so we developed this notion that it meant you'll remember this if you have sex with one person You're gonna have sex with every person they ever touch or they were they had sex with never that bullshit

Well, they said that Heterosexual sex was just as dangerous. We said that AIDS we said I know, that cigars are the same as cigarettes. People have been lying for an extended period of time. But the one I used was the one, if you have sex with one person, you're having sex with everybody they ever had sex with. That was the one we all adopted because we believed it. We didn't believe that the risk was the same.

We were worried that like in Africa, the risk would become the same if we didn't scare people. So we were using fear. We believed the headline we created that turned out to be untrue. Just was ridiculous. But we believed it. We weren't lying. But we had motivated reasoning, which was, hey we're gonna change it, we're gonna scare people a little bit. Perfect way, let's do it. So motivated reasoning got us into that situation. So it wasn't lying, it was hyperbole,

it was a distortion. Well, it is lying. It is lying when you know that those are not facts. But we really didn't know, we really thought it was a possibility. But they know that cigar smoking is much better than cigarette smoking and Al Gore Knows that we're not gonna be out of you know

drinkable water in 2029 or whatever he's lying. Mm-hmm. He's lying ever everyone Everyone on CNN that does that he said he was gonna be dictator day one. They're lying They they understand what that is. I think delusionality has crept in here. I think people are going to circle. They're lying like you lie to kids to get them to eat their broccoli. That's what they're doing.

That's what a parent does. That's what women do a lot. Men do it more. Now, it's fine. Say, lie to get some result that is more beneficial to the person in your mind. Speaking of lying reminds me of the Zoom meeting from FEMA that I sent you. Can I share that with the audience? Because what she says, first of all, I don't know if this is an AI generated thing or this really happened.

It was on the New York Post, so I'm guessing it's vetted to some degree. Can you play the couple minutes here, a couple seconds of this woman's meeting with, this is a FEMA meeting, talking about getting emergency services to, I think, North Carolina, but some FEMA services. You know, the shift that we're seeing right now is a shift in emergency management from utilitarian principles, where everything is designed for the greatest good, for the greatest amount of people, to disaster equity.

But we have to do more, right? And so this topic is intersecting, I think, with a number of other topics where we have to look at policies and understand to what extent they have disadvantaged communities that had less assets, communities that had pre-existing vulnerabilities in accessing disaster-related recovery supports.

We also know that communities that are highly bonded within can survive in the immediate aftermath of a disaster. But if they're not linked outside of their highly bonded communities, they will have less ability to thrive and support and even influence how recovery looks in their communities. So we have to be looking at that for sure. All right, bitch, just fill some fucking sandbags.

Yeah. Would you shut the fuck up? This is the era we're in, Drew. I've been telling everyone it's bad, don't do it, and they've done it. First things first. People can get harmed by this. Oh, everyone gets harmed by everything.

Look, them closing all the schools in the name of brown and black kids has only hurt brown and black kids three years on, right? It hurts everyone all the time, of course. Look, all of this DEI bullshit, first off, it filters into everything. It's like micro particles. It just gets into the system, it gets into your blood.

Which is the goal. That is the goal, yes, yes, I'm saying. It starts off over here with, you know, we need more representation with our city council and it goes into FEMA, goes into every, it just finds its way into everything and then once it finds its way in, it's a horrible way. But well, first off, it's just racist.

It's just sort of the other direction racist and then it it costs lives and people get hurt it costs a lot of money and it Doesn't work and here we are. You're gonna tell me this doesn't have to be said But I'm gonna say it not because anybody's no no shut up I've told you a million times stop saying black people are okay sometimes. No, I'm saying million times stop saying black people are okay sometimes. No I'm saying what like just shut up. What I'm saying is the focus on this BS as opposed to the focus on getting the job done is where it really goes off the rail. Yes, yes. No, Kamala Harris is not flawed because she's half black, she's flawed because she's stupid and we're flawed because we want somebody black in this position

Who now happens to be half black but often to be full stupid? So we now have a dumb person in a position where they're running the country because of this which is a which look I You'd be very upset if if Kamala Harris was your dentist Yeah, you would be fucking freaked out. You'd go, why is she my dentist? Well, because she's half black. Is she a good dentist?

We don't know, she won't say. But she's your dentist. You'd go, what the fuck? No, no, no. All right, well, she's not your dentist. She's gonna be the president of the United States. She's gonna be everyone's dentist but because of her

ethnicity So it's a flawed Premise it's a dangerous premise. It's a bad Premise that's how you get drew to shut up. You just talk about right see everyone's scared by the way This is why we're here because you're scared and everyone is scared that and now we're here now We're here because no one will raise their fucking hand and go and there's a bad idea It's a bad idea Nobody will raise their hand. I raised my hand the day before he announced he was going with Kamala Harris

He said I'm getting a woman of color. I said bad idea. You're old. You're fucking feeble. You're deteriorating She may be running the country. Whoever this person is. I need a good person I'll take whatever you got and you know what maybe she ends up being black or He yeah, or gay right? I don't care just long, but but just let's go find the best person Now and by the way happen I am in favor of if they're two equally qualified, you want to tilt it one way, okay, that's fine. But that's not looking for more. If it's a coin toss and you've never had a black coach in this NFL team's history, which

started in 1931, and it's a complete and utter coin toss. It's never a coin toss is the problem. It just can't be. You know what I mean? Because there are not that many super highly qualified people. How's anything a coin toss? You know what I mean?

Like I need a divorce attorney, or I need a sports car. Well, you know, the Audi's a solid car, and the Corvette's a lot, you know, but is it, but they're not, they're not the same car. There's arguments. And you can get close, you know what I mean?

You can get close. Now, the NFL franchise is there to find 1% better than that guy I'm hiring, you know what I mean? But in your world, if it is just a coin toss and our team has been existence for 81 years and we've never had a black coach, and okay, yeah, I'm with you on that one. Kamala Harris is not a coin toss, that's the problem.

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