The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1940 The Trolley Experiment with Erica Rhodes

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

Adam and Drew kick off the week welcoming comedian Erica Rhodes, as they jump into dating dilemmas, the art of comedy, and they help her figure out her attraction to narcissists. Then, Dr. Drew explai...ns the surge of low self-esteem, and Adam tries to figure out how to manifest feelings. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage, AdamandDrDrew.com

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Starting point is 00:01:11 low price of nine bucks a month of pittance for all we're going to bring you. Subscribe now AdamKarola.com slash sub stack and I'll see all of you in our new speakeasy called sub stack. Recorded live at Karola One Studios with Adam Karola and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Pinsky you're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew show Yeah, get it on got to get on the children Doctors board certified position Erica Rhodes very funny stand-up comedian is in studio and I would just call her an all-around delight. Oh, I find her delightful Yeah, not not everyone's a delight
Starting point is 00:02:04 No, I'm not a delight I don't But some people you would reserve the word delight yes for and you don't eat there's funny there's nice They're sweet, but a delight and we were all at that RFK event together And I don't know if I expressed you there, but I'm a fan of Erica as a comic. Very strong stand-up, which contributes to her delightfulness. Although not necessary, not a necessary component to being a delight.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yeah, America's got talent, made a real strong showing. And yeah, I exchanged a text with RFK Junior yesterday. Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh nice. How's it going? I just thought, I haven't really touched base with him since all the, you know, I just said, hey man, big win, congratulations.
Starting point is 00:02:56 You know, whenever the dust settles, come back and tell us all about it. Yeah, or I'll happily go out there and help. I mean, I'm looking forward to being of use. Drew, you say that, but nobody wants your help. No, they don't. Remember when you tried to help the homeless situation here in LA County? Oh yeah, that was fucked up.
Starting point is 00:03:16 What did he do? He tried to help. Nobody wants his help. The chairman of the LA County Board of Supervisors begged me to be on this allocations committee and I was like, oh, sounds awful. And she goes, please, I need you there. I go, okay, I should be more open-minded.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I should understand better how this money is allocated. I will do it. And I got an interview with the LA Times. I'm like, I'm going in with an open heart and an open mind. For free. For free. For free. Oh, wow. And I was fucking vilified as some sort of maniac that was going to go out and imprison
Starting point is 00:03:53 homeless people. What? Welcome to the LA Times. It's just so... So they never let him on the board. Oh my God. So I didn't get on the thing. Even though he has experience in it. That's awful.
Starting point is 00:04:03 You just had good intent. I wouldn't get perfect board. That's a problem with good intentions you can't and and i've been to the trump administration i went to the last trump white house and give a talk i talked to junior about you said they didn't want your help i specifically brought you up and then he apropos nothing said erica rhodes now her i could i could solve the homeless just like that. Her help we could use. Well, no, you bring your mirth, and with your mirth, you bring people together. Exactly. And delightfulness.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yes, and delight. She's a delight. I'll feed them with delight. So, Erica, I think surprisingly, and you know she plays a cello as well. Did not know that. Oh, now, Drew. And she went to an acting conservatory. Yeah, but Drew, musically, the cello.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah. Drew loves that. It's a big one. So now, are you single at this particular time? I am. I've been single for a while. Now, that just seems like a crime. It is.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's tragic. And I know you have a history of dating guys with narcissistic disorders, perhaps? Slightly, or self-absorption to the extreme. She tells a joke, and I tipped her off that I was going to ask her to tell the joke about dodging a bullet with some of these guys. it's such a the joke do you remember this joke Adam what she tells it's a constructed so okay I'm just wondering if you know the joke. Do you know the joke Adam? I don't know it but she tells many jokes. I know but this one caught the others? Yeah, you're true. This one is so clever, I brought up it so I'm gonna have to tell you. I know, but it needs a little more context than dating, per se, or narcissists.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Okay, it just comes from that sort of tropey saying that, where people say you dodged a bullet. It's usually women who are trying to console you and they say, don't worry, you dodged a bullet. And I always understand the intention of the analogy, but I don't think it's accurate. Because to me dodging a bullet is a bullet coming at you. Well, now we know what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:06:14 It's coming at you and you turn a little to the right. Like Trump? Yeah. And then it whooshes by you and hits someone else. But it's not the bullet comes inside of you. I know. I know that joke. And then you fall in love with the gun. Yeah, I love that joke. That's very funny.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah, so let's just break it down here though. I mean, I'm not questioning you, but I am, I strive for accuracy. Drew will tell you that. That's fair. I would say that every woman I have ever been with would describe me as a narcissist who's he only cares about himself, right? And I've heard it many times. I've also heard women make that cry about many, many people. He only cares about himself. And it's like, well, first things, I would argue that me taking care of a family and paying for everything and, you know, putting roofs over people's heads and, and, and creating a life for somebody that's way outside the scope of anything these people would have done has
Starting point is 00:07:25 to get me to at least the middle of only caring about myself, right? Yeah. Like, like- Not exclusively caring about yourself. I built a theater in my old house. I said to my ex-wife, I said, look, you know, maybe we're not getting along as good as we could, but I think we should build this theater together. I think you should have some input on it and and it'd be a nice place for the
Starting point is 00:07:50 family to watch movies." And she went, no. So then I built the theater and then they all just moved in and watched movies while I was out of town working. Now I don't feel like that makes me a narcissist. Everything I did at my house, I knew I was not going to be the recipient of it because I would be working out of town on weekends while they were enjoying the backyard with the new pool or the movie theater, whatever it is. But yet, that is a claim of almost every woman. They'll go, he's self-absorbed,
Starting point is 00:08:25 he doesn't care about anybody but himself, and he's a narcissist. But it can't be factually true to the extent that people describe their spouse or their ex or whatever that is. But it does exist. There are plenty of guys that are that way. I feel like the main trait of narcissism
Starting point is 00:08:44 is the lack of empathy. Yeah. You know, where it's like you can't feel what someone else is feeling. Yeah. It's not your actions of what you do or how you take care of people. It's just like if someone's suffering,
Starting point is 00:08:55 do you also feel that? So there you go. You just put a nail in the coffin of Adam's issue. A theory? He is definitely a narcissist. I don't have, well, here's the, but here's the thing, you guys tell me. Okay. I decide whether I should feel sorry for you or not, not based on how you're feeling.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Because we are now living in a society. You think that's a decision you get to make? Yes. We're living in a society now where the guy's like, he put his hand, I was assaulted. It's like, what happened? He, I started to walk onto the bus and put his hand on my shoulder and said he had to go for it. I said, okay, not assaulted. I feel assault. Okay, now I'm not listening because you've decided to feel a certain way that you don't. But that's not, that's still about what happened. It's not about what that person's feeling if someone's crying Do you feel anything? Well, you're just no
Starting point is 00:09:48 It depends what it is, okay turn on the view Turn on the view every single one of those women is crying and screaming about being locked up and Trump's gonna start a Railroad for black people and send them to the south or something. And they're very upset. Yeah. Should my heart ache for them? What should my... I'm going to an extreme view here, but when Sonny Houghton is up there just screaming about racism and having kids and having to raise them with a target on their back and
Starting point is 00:10:18 this society, and she's clearly upset and Rosie O'Donnell is clearly upset. How should I feel toward them? They're upset. You don't, I guess if you don't. I don't have empathy for them. If you don't like them also, that's different. No, I even. No, but I mean if you're in love with someone
Starting point is 00:10:37 and they're crying. Right. That's what I mean. That's right. And to be fair to Adam, he does have feelings. Yeah. He can empathize. Yeah. he's just harsh with his allocation. That's different.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You have to be sort of, your case has to be made. Well, let's look at it this way. Your objective about that. I'm a boss. Somebody goes, oh, my dad died last night, I have to go to my mom's place out of town or something. I go, fine. Somebody goes, I have the sniffles. Then I go, I think you could come in. Well, it's a whole nostril. Yeah, but all you do is sit here
Starting point is 00:11:16 and cut clips in a cubicle. So what am I to do? Have empathy for stuff that sounds like bullshit or that they bring on themselves like you choose to be upset yeah I think by this isn't that different than empathizing with a partner yes so well no but partners have stuff that's bullshit too yeah I'm gonna play it too he's an equal opportunity application on all this right he can do it for everybody even when he cares deeply. Yes, I love you but you feel like you were...
Starting point is 00:11:48 That's why he talks to me. ...disrespected by Marsha at work because she made some sort of comment about the vending machine being out of diet soda and that's... you interpreted that as her thinking you were fat and now you're upset by it. So I don't have, no, I don't have empathy. What if you forget someone's birthday and they're crying and they're like, I can't believe you forgot my birthday. Would you feel bad?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah, that's a thing. Yeah, I think that's a thing. He knows he's supposed to feel bad then, see? Oh, wow. So it's learned behavior, learned empathy? Is there a- Yes, yes, it's it's learned. He has learned and he has empathy Okay, he can choose it he can choose where selective empathy to like sometimes I don't feel certain things with the but it begs the issue that I might always talk about is Why all the narcissists now? There's a lot of them out there. Yeah, and so was dad a narcissist or yeah
Starting point is 00:12:44 Why are you attracted to them? Why the attraction? Or you just, you date comedians and they're all narcissists. I don't know, I think it's a combination of things because I think I get, I think I get bored by nice guys. And were they narcissists or addicts or both? I, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference, but I mean, if they were addicts, it was probably more to work and stuff like that than Alcohol, did you ever get the kind of codependent narcissist where it's a covert narcissist and all of a sudden Oh my god, there it is again, or do you like the real narcissist? I think the real real More type. I think I'm attracted to type a
Starting point is 00:13:20 personalities and sometimes I think it's because I have lower self-esteem and I think somehow that Arrogance is gonna rub off on me and we have super low self-esteem too. You do? Are you saying you're a narcissist? No, we just we just like because it's an asset We think it's an asset to have low self-esteem. No, it's you do we do adam help me We don't like it and feel good all the time, but it's an answer Seem like either of you has low self-esteem. We don't like it and feel good all the time, but it's an answer. You don't seem like either of you has low self-esteem. We do. Well, I guess we have to kind of figure out what.
Starting point is 00:13:53 What we're talking about. Yeah, well, we need some sort of yardstick to kind of measure. Low self-esteem. Yeah, like I'll give you. Real esteem gets set by H5. Oh really? Yeah, and high self-esteem yeah, yeah, like I'll give you real esteem gets set by h5 Oh, really? Yeah, and high self-esteem by h5 sometimes is just narcissism right ma Overcompensating it can become sick we because we have low self-esteem have we take responsibility for everything We blame ourselves for everything and we do a lot to compensate for that and it motivates us, right?
Starting point is 00:14:25 Well, I don't blame myself for everything, but I do, well, look, here's a, Take responsibility for everything. Oh yeah, here is a, maybe a little yardstick for we can sort of quantify self-esteem, because I think people, people sort of go, well, you get up there with the microphone and talk for an hour,
Starting point is 00:14:47 so you must have real high self-esteem. But I'm like, no, it's just kind of a job and it's something I know how to do, so I'm fine with it. I did have a weird moment where I did an event at the Beverly Wilshire last weekend and it went really well. And then when I was done, the person kind of did,
Starting point is 00:15:05 Adam Carolla everybody, and I got a standing ovation. And then I went back down to the table I was at and I sat down and my girlfriend said, standing ovation, amazing. And I went, I got standing ovation? She said, yeah. And I said, I didn't really glean that. She's like, oh yeah, everyone stood up.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I was like, oh, I forgot about that. She was like, it was five minutes ago. You should know that. But all right, here's an interesting thing. And now, you can call this narcissism, if that's what we're trying to define here, and or not. I'm good at a bunch of shit, and I know I'm good at a bunch of shit, and I understand that and I own it, but that's not really narcissism.
Starting point is 00:15:57 It's sort of like a trade. I possess a skill in a trade, and it's building, so I know how to do that, so that's fine. And I know how to do stuff with cars and stuff, but here's an interesting one a small one There is a person I live in like a duplex II thing and the people live Next to us are nice enough, but I think they feel pretty good about themselves and I Have a garage door There's the roll-up one, and then there's the door with the knob and the hinges. They have a garage door with the knob and the hinges on the side and then the roll-up one in the front. They have a stroller. They
Starting point is 00:16:39 park it in front of my door, not in front of their door. So they go in and out, no problemo, and then I get to my door and I have to move the stroller to get to my door, which is an insane thing. Like in my mind, in my mind that is insane and I couldn't make it through the night if I were them. Like if I put it, if I went upstairs, it was laying in bed and I said to my girlfriend, you didn't put the stroller in front of the neighbor's door. Do you yeah, I left it there
Starting point is 00:17:07 I'd go. All right, get up put my fucking bathrobe on and go downstairs Yeah, I had two in the morning and I would move it and then she'd go Why don't you just move it in the morning and I'd be like, what if they get up earlier, right? And and they got it and they routinely park it in front of my door versus their door, which is just next to it. It's just they don't want to block their door. Now, that seems insane to me. Hey, I'm Adam Kroll. That's Brad Williams and Jay Leno. Hey, buddy. Over there, we're doing our third annual comedy, Fantasy Camp. That's going to be January 23rd through the 26th, right in Hollywood, California.
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Starting point is 00:19:45 wagering. Bet online. Bet online. The game starts here. The other day, a couple days ago, I was washing my cars in my driveway, washing my car, and I had to move another car to like, I was talking to you, Jerome, get it out of the way, blah, blah, blah. This street was full of parking. I had to go park in front of my neighbor's driveway for 80 seconds while I ran back to my car and pulled it out and then jumped back in. I ran.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Like, I was nervous that this person would pull in this literally 80 second window, somebody would be coming up and try to get and my car would be blocking them. Now I feel like that's good healthy low self-esteem. Yeah. I didn't think that had anything to do with low self-esteem though. Isn't that just conscientious? Like you're worried... He's worried. I think it's connected to it. He doesn't like to impinge on anybody else in any way. But how is that low self-esteem? Because they shouldn't, we shouldn't, they shouldn't, we know, we feel small, we shouldn't be bothering other people, we shouldn't be in their way, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Well what else, I mean how else would it manifest itself? I mean you saying, oh I suck, but that's not really, I don't feel like that's low self-esteem. Right, it's also, if something bad happens, you go, it must be my fault, it must be, I must have something to do with it, or at minimum, I gotta look at what I did, because it's me, you know, and I'm not, as opposed to a narcissist, which is like, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Why would I look at it? It's because it's me, right? Right, okay. So maybe he's not, I don't think you're a narcissist I think you're maybe just hyper you hyper focus. Oh boy. You got that one, right? You're not allowed in my world. You're not allowed to screw other people up like yeah, I You know my agent James baby doll Dixon. I Was driving through Malibu with him many years ago on just like Lost Virginist,
Starting point is 00:21:47 and he's in his rental car and he's eating McDonald's, and as he's like finishing the burgers, just tossing the wrapper out of the window, and as he frames the fries, it's just like, literally he's done with the newspaper, just like, we're in Lost Virgin, the canyon, of going through Malibu, I'm like, what are you doing? I'm like, I don't know, it's garbage in here?
Starting point is 00:22:08 In the rental car? I'm like, oh wow. That, now that is. Next level stuff. I could never, now, but what is that? You know what I mean? That's narcissism, yeah. And high self-esteem, I would, I guess.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah. Yeah, so I think the whole esteem thing is overdone. Yes. Okay. So that's narcissism. Oh yeah, I do too. Yeah. So I don't think people should lament having low self-esteem. They should use it. Yeah. And people with high self-esteem better be careful with it. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. I love people low self-esteem. Me too. My favorite people. I connect more with them. Yeah. Do you connect with us? Well, I do, but I didn't think you had low self-esteem. We do. We're fine. We're good. We like it. It just doesn't bother us, but it started.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I guess I'm not good at reading if someone has low self-esteem. Can we also use this? I really have a lot of difficulty lying to people and saying things that aren't so. And I just went through it. When you get divorced, they just tell you, just say this, just tell them that, or just say that. I just go, that didn't happen. Just say it, it'll be better.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And I go, I don't know. I don't wanna say stuff that didn't happen. And then they go, well, they're saying a bunch of shit that didn't happen. I go, I get it, but I'm not comfortable with it. And I don't know what that is, but. Integrity. Maybe it's integrity.
Starting point is 00:23:48 It's also integrity, yeah. Right, but no, see for me, you're not allowed to do it. I know. It's not, I don't feel like I have great integrity. You don't think it's a moral compass that you just have? I would not give myself permission to quickly to make shit up that didn't happen. Adam has a god and I mean this with peace and love my friend you ready? He has zero moral uh what is the word I'm looking for, emotions, and an exquisitely tuned moral compass. So
Starting point is 00:24:29 he has no instinct for morality, but doesn't matter because his compass is perfectly tuned. Wow. Right? Would that be right? I don't know about perfectly, but I'm not above, you know, if I found cash on the floor of a casino, I'd probably put it in my pocket I don't think I'd turn it in but you'd feel you'd have a I Personally, I try to run like as though cameras going at all times that they yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah No, I actually is these things when I know I've talked to people like women that go
Starting point is 00:25:01 I'll just buy the dress wear it for the vent and then I'll return it. And I go, you can't do that. And I go, what do you mean? Everyone does it. And I go, don't do that. And they go, why not? It's just a thing. And I go, it's wrong. And they go, it's just a thing. And I go, yeah, but don't do it. Like, I don't care. I don't like it. You know? If you asked Adam to do the trolley experiment, you know the trolley experiment. I forget what that it's an ethics sort of story Parable that it about jumping in front of one. Yeah, sorry, we're pushing somebody. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yeah, don't ask Adam to do that. Why he'll say the wrong thing Just freak out a bit Just what but but he's doing it for the point of a compass that still stays due north even when the challenges are difficult. Just doesn't feel good to hear it. Well they say like most people would save their pet over a drowning person or something like that, you know, and I would always, always do the drowning stranger. I don't believe that either, that they would do that. You think?
Starting point is 00:26:12 I feel like when people say that, they're telling you something. Yeah, they're telling you something. Because that's not a flattering statement. No, I don't think so. But I also think maybe if they were faced with it, they wouldn't do what they're claiming they would do. The people I've heard really say it. You think they would? No I though I'm gonna shoot a hole in that concept because people say they would do the thing that was more decent and noble which would be save the human over my
Starting point is 00:26:39 drowning pet. Oh wow, so if they say they're gonna save the pet they really would just save the pet? There's a higher percentage that would save the pet That's what I'm I would surmise. I think another trait of narcissism is the ability to lie without flinching like they just all the time percent And when you're a non lying non-narcissist the ease of which people lie Yeah, I can't I can't understand. Yeah, it's just it does not compute non-lying, non-narcissist, the ease of which people lie is devastating to you.
Starting point is 00:27:06 It's shocking. It's shocking. Yeah, it's just, it does not compute. Right. It doesn't compute, and you don't really understand why life, society, micro, macro, like, I find myself looking around going, what, what, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Look, this person is just lying, and everyone goes, yeah, yeah, that's how they roll. You know, I go, what do you mean that's how they roll. They're making that up. That doesn't ever happen and then they go. Yeah That's what we do. And I just go what yuck. No, and they go no, no, that's how that's how we do it That's how the game is played. Yeah sort of thing. That's a big trait of narcissism. So if you don't have that I feel like You're not really a narcissist You're getting into kind of malignant narcissism there. Yeah. Yeah So if you don't have that, I feel like you're not really a narcissist. You're getting into kind of malignant narcissism there.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Yeah. Well, I... How do you find these guys? Comedy, comedy. Yeah, well, that's the whole thing. They're everywhere. A lot of women say, you know, I can't find a good guy, but you can if you went into some other realm.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Other than comedy No, well just I you know what I mean like you look I'll give you an example All the starlets they have their whole phase from you know 19 to 35 where they date the leading man or the rock star the lead singer or the whatever whatever Then you get hold of them when they're 52 and they married the orthodontist and now they're happy. Or Lana Del Rey married the alligator tour guide. Yes, or the alligator, yeah, the guy at the Okie Fonokie swamp. Yeah, no, they marry like
Starting point is 00:28:40 a fireman or something. Now, what a lot of them do is they marry some sort of billionaire guy who's like 13 years older than them, but he's still a civilian and that he's not recognized when he goes out, which is still sort of a bullshit move. But no more actors, no more comedians, no more lead singers. Or they go for the director. They start with the other actors
Starting point is 00:29:02 and then they end up with the director. No, it's a little less Anything in front of the cameras is more than on the Narcissus spectrum, but what I'm saying is is It's time for you to date the orthodontist Yeah, I do have a crush on my dentist He's really cute. That's what I'm saying once But I only see him once, you know, twice a year. And I think he's probably married. I mean, he's very handsome.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So, handsome dentist is already taken. Yeah. That's the problem. But here's the real, real serious problem. And I mean this again with peace and love. Yes. If you're attracted to him, like really, like lightning bolts attracted? Yeah, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I know, that's what I've realized. I have to force myself to like someone I'm not attracted to or not that well hold on yeah not the immediate quiet down Drew no but that's a we know there are people that are just very attractive and that's what she's described she's very handsome but I just want to point out that you got a look you got to read your own attractions because I've been single so long because I just don't think I choose the right people Well, you go from then that sort of flip side of the same problem though, right now you're anorectic on the same That's true. You know, yeah
Starting point is 00:30:16 Look here's the fear more towards that now. Here's the deal. Yeah if you showed all your friends a picture of to do. If you showed all your friends a picture of dentist McDreamy and they all agree that he was a strikingly handsome man then that's not on you and your weird attraction. That's true. He was a genuinely attractive man. Right, but if you're dating a guy and there's a lot of like I don't know why she's with him. I get that. Now you're fucked. If you get a like I don't know why, you know he's five foot nothing, he's got bad skin, like why is she with him. Look at that. Now you're fucked. If you get a like, I don't know why, he's five foot, nothing, he's got bad skin, like why is she with that? That means that's your bad attraction pulling you in.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Because the people, the other people don't experience it because they're not fucked up in the way you're fucked up. So they're like, I'm not attracted to this person. Thank you, thank you. See what I'm saying? That's true. Your dad was sick growing up or something? Yeah, he had MS my whole life.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So he was- He had a what? He had MS. Oh. Yeah, so he was- I thought she said a mass. A mass. That's what I heard too.
Starting point is 00:31:14 A mass. I think that's your, yeah, that's a Bostonian thing or something, I don't know where you're from. MS, MS. Yeah, he was a, yeah. Wait, where are you from? Newton, Mass. Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Oh, so your MS sounds like a mass. Oh really? MS. Yeah, because was him. Wait, where are you from Newton? Oh, so your a mass sounds like a mass. Oh really? Yeah, it's true and we all heard where my accent comes he had a mass a mass and I was like a mass tumor Like I heard a mass me tumor or a maybe a mask This cuz masks are my man Only probably with certain Certain things like like miss and as Pike mass Pike mass mass all right so you had MS yes MS multiple sclerosis uh-huh there say it up say it in full that's how you say
Starting point is 00:31:58 because otherwise I'll screw people up yeah that's rough so and it's your whole life yeah pretty much my whole life. Were you a caretaker? No, but I think I felt responsible in some ways. But you don't have to actually do any caretaking? No. Because that gets traumatic for kids. Yeah, that's different.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Yeah, no, I didn't have to do it. Just emotional, maybe in my head emotional caretaking. Yeah, but no, I don't think we had to do anything. How many siblings? One older sister. What's she do? She's married with kids and she has like a job at FSU. Florida State University?
Starting point is 00:32:37 She does, I'm not exactly sure. A lot of initials in your world. Dad has a math. She's at FSU. FSU. She's at FSU. And is she stable and nice and normal? She's very stable. She dodged a bullet.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah, she somehow ended up okay. Does she find it queer that you are in a life of standup comedy? Or was she like, oh, I always knew that about Erica I think she always knew it. She always encouraged me to do it. But but I think she is surprised. I'm single I think she wishes I would find somebody are you on apps and that kind of stuff I am but I'd go on it for a few minutes and then I never want to go on it again I just don't like meeting people like that
Starting point is 00:33:24 They just look like so two dimensional. And I can't tell if I'm attracted to a guy on there. Can't see the narcissism. Most of the time I'm not attracted to anybody. What if he's asking about how often you floss? If he does it in my dentist's voice. To comedy, what would you have been doing you think you're straining in what would you have been doing,
Starting point is 00:33:45 you think you're straining in? I think either, well, writing, I like to write a lot, and then I like psychology a lot. Probably therapy or something like that. How about the setup scene? I feel like that would work well for you. Having someone, the problem is people always set me up with people I'm not into.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Not narcissists. Yeah, they're like, you should be with a nice guy and then I'm like, no. It's too boring. Yeah, it's very boring. Too gross. Yeah. I wanna like a nice guy, but I just don't.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I do have a very narcissistic thought. I thought you were gonna say friend. No. You were gonna set me up with. No, I do have a super narcissistic thought. I thought you were gonna say friend. No. You were gonna set me up with. Now I do have a super narcissistic thought which is most guys to me just seem so plain and kind of
Starting point is 00:34:34 boring and sort of whatever. You know, like they really like for instance, they're really into their team and they just want to tell the other Jets man, the season's over. It's like, you seem so boring and kind of pedestrian, you're not talking about anything. This is gonna sound... That sounds horrible, yes, it was a super narcissistic thought, but I'm gonna make it worse. I think we feel that way, the three of us, I'm gonna bet,
Starting point is 00:35:00 about people's lives generally. Yes. We need some lot more stimulation and stuff to feel good about things and to be interested. And it's sort of, we have engines that go that a lot of people consider sick, I would say. Probably. Yeah, no, listen, you do a comedy club and you look out in the audience
Starting point is 00:35:20 and you see him sitting there and you go, what in the world, what kind of boring, what are you here to see me for? Why are you here? What are you here for? I don't want to see him sitting there and you go what a lot what kind of boring. What are you here to see me? All right, look we'll do some more with Erica and the in the following show Big bear Lake Big Bear Comedy Festival doing stand-up there. That'll be on Saturday Erica Rhodes got shows all over the place off Cabot in Bostonugh Boston, the Ben Theater, that'll be in West Bend, Wisconsin. Yes, that'll be December 6th and 7th and you can go to our website ericaroadscomedy.com. Drew? Dr. dot com, Dr. dot TV, check out the
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