The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1943 Fight the Oprahization
Episode Date: November 20, 2024Dr. Drew starts off this week by admiring some bathroom artwork, the start of The Man Show, and the stage is now set for the 'Safe Spaces vs Octagons' to play out. Plus, Adam explains the opportunitie...s for change, delayed gratification, and discipline, then Drew weighs in on Robert F. Kennedy Jr. enjoying some McDonalds. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage, AdamandDrDrew.com Please Support Our Sponsor: This Episode is Sponsored by BetterHelp, BetterHelp.com/AdamandDrew Shopify.com/adamanddrew
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What's going on there, Drewsky?
Yeah, buddy.
So I was taking a leak in your bathroom, as I typically do when I arrive here, and the
camel guy on the wall caught my attention
He's sort of a ship's captain fisherman rugged nice look
Smoking camel smoking camel cigarettes. Yeah, the camel guy people think it's Joe camel. No, no This is a this is probably from the 50s. Would you say late 40s 50s? No
Hope after that. Yeah late 40s. It looks like it looks old to me. Nothing changed for a long
period of time. Yeah, that's true. It looks, it has a different madman quality to it, so I guess it
could be 60s-esque, but the particulars of the shipping and the fishing and the smog and the camel and stuff reminds me of the 50s.
So I'm looking at that and I got a little bit nostalgic for when men were men. And then
I thought about you guys, meaning you and Jimmy and the man show. And how the Man Show, as I recall, I remember that whole evolution. And both you guys were
saying something different but similar to what you've been saying lately as it pertains to safe
spaces and octagons. Which is that there needs to be a safe space for men where men can be men,
you know, whatever that means and be gross and be whatever men where men can be men you know whatever
that means and be gross and be whatever and wouldn't that be funny if we made
fun of that also am I getting it right am I getting the history correct so far?
Yeah well we said we had to listen if you watch the beginning of the first episode
of The Man Show, if you look at the cold open
of the first episode of The Man Show,
as a matter of fact, somebody can probably find it,
the opening of the first episode of The Man Show.
It's a cold open we shot on Hoover Dam. Yeah, and
we talked about the
feminization of the country and the and the title wave of estrogen that was washing over this country we
Lost their lives on the ends. They're still in the cement here this day. Yeah, which didn't really happen
Yeah, we we were trying to fight the opra-ization of the country.
Yeah, that was the plan.
And that was 20 some odd years ago.
Okay.
So I would argue that the circumstance around you have changed, but your feeling about that
has not changed.
No. And does the present moment call for something similar?
Or is it sufficient to let the safe spaces and octagons play
out the way they have?
The safe spaces are losing.
The octagons just won the election.
And it's now literally inside of the octagon,
where people are doing the Trump dance and pointing at Trump and giving them his belt
You know Jones given the belt so it's no longer figuratively safe spaces and octagons. We're literally in the octagon with this stuff
Yeah
I was saying safe spaces and octagons and if you'd have to go to the octagons with the men and you'd have to go to
Thrive there and you wouldn't you'd have the women are gonna have to go to the octagons too
if they want protection and they want traditional values
and safety and things like that.
Or they can shave their head.
Yeah, or they can shave their head
and go hang out in blue states and get raped.
Cause that's basically, there's crime everywhere.
Right.
So was Jimmy all in on this the way you were
or did he just see it as an opportunity for
comedy?
I think we, I don't know.
We both looked at it as an opportunity for comedy.
I wasn't really that serious about it in that I wasn't being, it was an attempt at everything was through the
lens of comedy I wasn't really trying to start any social movement or change you
know but I do remember you talking about it with a little energy back in the day
like we need we need a place we need something we need well I used to say
we're ruining women and black people because we're telling them they're victims,
or we're trying to hand them too much stuff, and we're making them angry, and it's not working.
It's not going to work. You can't feel like you have a target on your back. You need help. Society
doesn't want you. We're trying to hold you down. It's like the worst thing you could do for a group.
You know? I mean, the women
who vote the hardest towards safe spaces are black women because they think they're being
held down and discriminated against and destroyed. And so, and it doesn't, obviously it doesn't
help them. They're not doing well because we've convinced them of that. So yeah, I felt
serious about that. Yeah. But this was a joke. Yes, but go ahead.
But I, you know, so I was, as I was standing there whizzing, looking at the camel fishermen,
I was thinking, you have not changed really. I mean, it's sort of come into focus, maybe
amplified a little bit. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. But Jimmy has changed, I think. He's
moved into a different place,
and it made me wonder, did he ever really feel
the way you felt, or I never really talked to him about it.
There's commerce on both sides of this equation.
Okay.
I never have to change because I'm never wrong.
You have to change or no.
So hold on, you wonder why people don't listen to you.
I admire when you say that, but other people go,
oh, Mr.
Well, it's a fact.
I'm never wrong about anything I talk about.
So why would I change?
There's three opportunities for changing.
There is, you're never wrong, so why would you change?
Then there's, you're wrong, but you never admit it,
you never change.
That's most people, I know.
And then there's, you're wrong, maybe I'll change.
That's, the people that left, look,
the people that used to be on the Young Turks
and then became Dave Rubin.
Jimmy Doar.
And Jimmy Doar realized they were wrong.
The AOC will never admit she was wrong.
So she just lives there.
I was going to give a fourth circumstance, which is that the circumstances surrounding
the individual changed so much that even though they were right, they've adjusted their
opinion. Like we move on to something else where that opinion is not a, it's, you know what I mean,
isn't that a possibility? Why, say that one more time? Well, this particular topic doesn't apply
to what I'm saying, but it seems to be the case that you could have a strong feeling about
something and then the circumstances
surrounding you change so much that your opinion just shifts.
Yeah.
It doesn't really, you don't say it at all, you just shift.
Yeah, you can shift.
I don't have things, I'm not, you know, you could look long and hard, but I don't have
a lot that I'm ever wrong about.
I know. You could look long and hard, but I don't have a lot that I'm ever wrong about no
No, but I don't but but the reason I
Say that is because I don't talk about stuff unless I've thought it out. Yeah, and once I think it out
Then I'm done. Yeah, and and that's that yeah, so, you know
I we had an opportunity during kovat for me to be wrong about a lot of stuff
you know, we had an opportunity during COVID for me to be wrong about a lot of stuff,
because I talked about a lot of stuff early and often. You wait until you get to the bottom of this Fauci fella, Drew. Remember I told you about four years ago, it'll just keep getting worse?
Yes.
Nothing will get better.
Yes.
It'll just keep getting worse.
You did say that. And the vaccine. You said that about him and the vaccine.
The vaccine and Fauci are gonna just every piece of news
that you hear from this day forth,
and in the past a few years, it's all gonna be bad news.
It's all gonna be bad news.
You're gonna wish you never took the vaccine.
You're gonna wish you never praised Fauci.
There will be no, oh, it turned out it was good,
or we have some long-term reports or whatever.
It's just all, I'm not saying it's gonna be catastrophe
I'm just saying it's all going down and to be fair. I already wish I had not praised him. I'm already there
It's gonna get worse, but but I do still stand by he was very helpful during the AIDS epidemic
He really was very good fine. So why should I change?
I've told everybody 25 years ago,
stop medicating yourself and start getting some exercise
and listen to classical music.
Is that what I said?
I said stop washing your hands and sterilizing everything.
You're gonna get sick.
No, to be fair, you said that 28 years ago.
Yeah, okay.
I told everyone what to do.
All right.
When I am proven wrong, then I will change my point of view
But so so Jimmy shifted
Yeah, we have the beginning of the man show by the way the cold opening for the first man
Didn't the first one they make you like burp and fart and stuff
They've dropped in stupid sounds and stuff. Do you remember that or was that they did on the pilot? I bet you no
They didn't do that
This is us on Hoover Dam, okay?
So I'm told I do remember that opening
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6.6 million tons of concrete harnessing nearly a trillion gallons of water.
16,000 men spent half a decade building it.
They lived in shacks and tents along its base without drinking water,
toilets or shelter from the desert heat.
More than a hundred of these men gave their lives to this dam.
Their bodies are paved over in its walls. Its 2 million kilowatt
capacity powers the greatest city in the world, Las Vegas.
And just as these heroic men did more than 60 years ago, we are building a dam.
A dam to hold back the tidal wave of feminization that is flooding this country. A dam to stop the river of estrogen
that is drowning us in political correctness.
A dam to urinate off of when we're really drunk.
We call this dam
the Man Show.
The Man Show.
Yeah, politically correct.
Yeah, we were onto it back then.
I mean, this thing's 25 years old.
So we were thinking about it.
At least I was.
No, I remember.
I remember the whole evolution of it.
Yeah.
And then so what we just realized is we just bottomed out.
And so now that we bottomed out, it's time to start back a new direction.
So progressive ideas kind of get you to the bottom.
And then, well, I mean, I don't even want to sound political.
I'm just saying like defund the police
and clean needles for junkies
and judgment-free injection zones and stuff.
It just turns into a shit shows and then it's San Francisco
and then now it's time to,
then they vote out all the progressive
Mayors and whatever from that Bay Area and now they replace them with normal people and then we start to rebuild
So crazy and then they go back to their bad ideas and we go back down again
We get George Gascon in here the DA we have crime everywhere and it's a fucking mess and it's chaos and then we go
All right
Now let's vote a normal guy in and start that start up the mountain again of sanity. And then
at some point we'll get up there and then we'll get bored and then some will have some fucked up
ideas and we'll go right back down to the bottom. My point is, I don't know why we need to do this.
I thought the fifth, the seventies taught us we don't need to do it. I really thought.
I thought the fifth the 70s taught us we don't need to do it. I really thought I
So Trump said
We're building a wall. We need a secure border
then the Democrats came in and went fuck that no wall and
Then all the materials just rusted away out there and we sold it for scrap And then we had a shit show at the border and now Trump's back and he wants to build the wall and the Democrats want to
Build the wall too. So now I have to bring the materials back or buy new materials and go finish the wall
That's essentially what we do. The border is the metaphor. Yeah, that's what we do go back forth back
You basically say I want the house to be white your wife says I want it to be yellow
You paint the front of it white she paints the back of it yellow
be white, your wife says I want it to be yellow, you paint the front of it white, she paints the back of it yellow, then she gets in charge and repaints the front white or yellow, then
you get back in charge and you get divorced and you paint the front white again and that's
all you do. That's all we do.
What about waste?
Well, the waste part is the cities don't have to fall apart and the border doesn't have
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So we're talking about RFK, and he's eating McDonald's
on the airplane.
And I see Drew making the rounds on the shows.
And you and I have always said the same thing.
It's just like eat whatever, have something in moderation and get back to being healthy.
What pissed me off, what pissed me off, there's two things that pissed me off.
It's a picture of him and Elon and Trump and they're all eating.
Bill Maher said, hey, McDonald's tastes great.
They're like, oh, what?
How could you say that?
The fuck are you talking about?
Who said what?
Bill Maher during his show.
Yes, he did.
Nobody said that.
No, no, no, Bill, there was this huge reaction to Bill Maher.
Not like what you did.
No, online, online, not during your show.
Yeah, but even that.
No, everyone knows it tastes great.
All right, and one of the big problems
is that they need to switch to tallow from seed oil.
Yes, yes, yes.
He said that.
R.F.K. has said that.
And other than that, you make good choices when you go to McDonald's.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Let me explain something to everybody.
Yeah.
Or you go there just to splurge.
Well, look, let me explain something. We have a lot of miss whatevers when it comes to food
and nutrition.
I've talked to a lot of experts
and they mostly get it wrong.
Now they don't, what they don't get wrong with, okay,
I mean, there's a bunch of stuff they get wrong.
They go, people need to be educated,
people need to be educated, people need to be educated.
Kyle, what's healthier, an apple or cake?
Oh, we're experts, we're all experts.
Fuck everyone with these people need to be educated.
Every fucking kid by the age of seven is an expert
on the apple versus the cake.
Yes.
We all know it.
So there is no, nobody ever goes to McDonald's
and thinks they're on a health food run
or eating healthy or whatever.
They know the difference.
Yeah.
They don't care and they're not disciplined enough,
but they know, so it's not about education. It's about discipline
We need to educate them on getting some fucking discipline not on not knowing the difference between a Big Mac and a piece of
Hickam a yep, okay, or a hard-boiled egg. Okay. All right, so that's fun bullshit to the cost
They don't have enough money to eat help fuck you fast
food is now expensive mm-hmm I have people telling I go to subway was for
17 bucks before to get it's fucking expensive now you go to Jersey Mike's
you go order a foot longer the way you want it yeah it's 20 bucks yep go fucking
cross the street to the market
and go get a dozen eggs and boil them up
and go get some vegetables and steam them up.
It's much cheaper.
You can eat healthy and you can eat cheap.
Correct.
We don't want it.
We want Jersey Mike's.
It's not about money, it's not about education.
Drop it.
It's about willpower.
It's about willpower it's about
intestinal fortitude and it's about our ability to delay gratification and we've
lost it as a nation we want what we want when we want it we want it now we want
it brought to our fucking door yes it's no longer a treat I made my whole
childhood nothing was ever brought to my door the fucking phone book once a year got dropped off my
Door that was it. There was no anything
Everything was guys don't know what you're talking for allowed six to ten weeks for delivery
You know, there was nothing fast food was a treat. We barely did it. We barely did. All right delayed gratification
Tesla for to discipline. we don't have that.
We've lost that.
These people, they know what the fuck they're doing.
They just don't wanna do it.
You don't think they know to stop eating the fast food
and start exercising.
You don't think every human being knows that at this point
who lives in this country.
They know what to do.
They don't do it.
Half of them have a treadmill sitting in their fucking garage that they've never been on they know right ask anybody who's
even dealing with their way they know it better than I know it it's a constant
talk about I shouldn't be eating or I found a thing that I think I saw
something online or whatever I'm gonna get a membership at the whatever I think
I should get a personal trainer you know they're on it all the time yeah they're
just not doing it so what hold on okay go ahead that is a number one now when
you say as I saw you on Jesse Waters I think last night go to McDonald's but
make better choices you're also full of shit. Nobody's
ever going to do it.
Who you go to McDonald's you get apple slices.
No, no.
Get the salad with the apple slice. Okay, nobody does that. Nobody goes to McDonald's,
but a lot of nutritionists, a lot of people like, there's stuff you can order. Off the
menu you can get tap water. You can get apple slices. Did I say tap water?
You can get a large tap water with apple slices
and a salad with no dressing.
Okay, nobody goes to any fast food for that ever.
So here is the answer.
The answer is get some exercise,
break a fucking sweat, moderate your shit,
do some intermittent fasting, and
then if you want to go to McDonald's, the fuck an order whatever you want.
That's the answer.
That's the only answer.
But get your shit together and have dominion over yourself.
So I was trying to make the case.
You're right.
But what I was trying to make the case for was conscious eating, which I think is-
I know, but your mistake was you said go to McDonald's and there are things on the menu.
Well, I used to go there and eat salads.
I used to do that.
Well, nobody, but yeah.
Nobody, but yeah.
Be that as it may, the point I was trying to make
is that the conscious eating, but there's two things
that are in the way of that.
You mentioned no discipline, no delayed gratification.
I completely agree with you. But there's also no motivation.
And motivation is a little different.
No salads at McDonald's anymore.
Well, see, I haven't been in a while.
Yeah, well, they figured it out.
Nobody would, no one ordered one.
Just me.
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So the motivation thing you how do you get somebody to start to even get
to the point where they could delay gratification and something nobody ever
talks about which I have encountered all the time in clinical practice people are
literally fearful of being hungry. It's bizarre.
Listen, none of any of this is right. It's simply everyone knows the answer.
Yes.
Look, I grew up with these people, and I am one of them to an extent they all know what the answer is
They don't want to do it right? They're not fearful. They're not motivated to do it. It's
It's not even yes, it is true. They're not motivated to do it. That's where you got a star
You're gonna get them. I know but they don't you know where I come from, you know, my buddy Chris
He like he could have had a scholarship to go to college
and play football and get an education, whatever.
It's like you just have to take a couple of units
at the summer school so you can be eligible
to play your senior year, whatever.
Just go, take six weeks, Van Nuys High, summer school.
Next day, where are you?
I went to the river.
Well, you're supposed to be, you're not gonna be eligible.
You know, I'm going to the beach.
That was it, that's who I grew up with.
I know these guys backward and forward.
They know all about it, they're not doing it.
They don't care.
Because they can't see down the road.
That's the first thing.
Because that's the lack of delayed gratification.
They can't do that.
They don't have discipline.
They've lost their dominion over themselves.
So that's a larger and larger portion of society.
Completely agree.
But to your point about not seeing down the road,
if we get them to see down the road,
maybe that would help motivate them.
Nobody has food insecurities.
Nobody's scared of being hungry. Nobody is misinformed and thinking this is good for them. It has nothing to do
with finances, it has nothing to do with anything they ever talk about. It is 100% people have
lost discipline. And so in terms of getting it back.
The ones that never had it are fucked. They're never getting it back. So once it never had it or fucked, right? They're never getting it back.
They're not getting it back. There's no back. They never had it. Right.
That's it. That's rough. I was half.
That's half the guys who went to high school with their 16.
That's that. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of them.
My whole fucking family's that way. That's that.
This is it.
I can't accept that.
So they look at retiring from a career they never had.
Right.
I mean it.
I hear you.
That's half the guys I went to high school with
and all of the Corollas.
I'm hoping that's not as large a population
as you imagine.
It's growing. I would agree with that
We told everyone you didn't have to do this and didn't have to do that
And you don't have to listen to people and whatever shape your body was
It was beautiful and and you know, we lowered the standards for everything
So everyone could get a you know passing grade and math and whatever and when them we've ruined it now
We have a bunch of fat
people that are undisciplined, and the fat thing is the undisciplined part. They want
to do what they want to do when they want to do it all fucking day. Look, I've employed
a thousand people under the age of 40. I've said to a million of them, what are you doing
this weekend? I've never heard the answer, I'm working. Have you?
No.
Why not?
You ask Dr. Drew, what are you doing this weekend?
Every other weekend, I'm working.
You ask Mark Garagos, what are you doing this weekend?
He might very well tell you he's working.
You ask Adam Corolla, Kevin Henshaw, Nick Santora,
what are you doing this weekend?
You may very well get the answer, I'm working. I've not gotten that answer from anybody who's ever
worked here under the edge of 40. So what's going on?
You know what's interesting, just to put a little fine point on that, is my days off
when I was a real workaholic, I would work an eight hour day doing nursing home rounds and I would
time myself to be in the car during your commercial breaks or your breaks and the music at K-Rock
when you had a shift on a Saturday morning.
Yeah, he's doing the morning show.
And you used to talk to callers.
Oh, who was working on a Saturday back then?
The two of us.
Yeah, the two of us.
All right, so it's discipline, Drew.
I don't know who's right.
That was my day off, by the way.
I'm not telling you.
That was my non-working day.
Who is right and who is wrong, I'm just telling you it's a discipline issue.
It's a societal discipline issue, and it's pushed hard by the left, and it's chick think.
And it's a problem.
It is not the octagon.
And it's a problem it is not the octagon it's it's not and it's not
Hoover Dam mmm-hmm so back to my original question has Jimmy just shifted
will he shift back is what it was he never really on board quite the same way
he was on board I I would say hmm so I have no idea so that to me that suggests
we could speaking of bringing someone back we could bring him back
Well, you talking about bringing someone back who wants to bring you forward. Oh
The plan
for progressing
Yes, it's not to have them wake up and come back to the Stone Age with you knuckle draggers
The plan is is you wake up and join me you can start with your pronouns
So it's not never gonna happen. Yeah
Just like it's never gonna happen with the discipline of the food
It's not gonna okay, it's it's not gonna happen for the ones that are lost and have no discipline
I've seen if there's though. Well, there's, look, well there's Dave Rubin.
Yeah.
And Jimmy Dore.
Yeah.
There are those who turn it around,
who wake up the stuff and turn it around.
That is not the majority of society.
I'm fighting for them.
Well Drew, you saying there are those who turn it around.
Of course, there are those who everything.
But they're not, sadly sadly, society needs the majority.
God, see I have trouble accepting
that there's nothing to be done.
I might naturally wanna go fix it.
See, you've not had a front row seat to lethargy,
depression, and rudderlessness as I have.
I grew up in a family of watching people just walk around with no rudderlessness as I have. I grew up in a family of watching people just
walk around with no rudder. You know what I mean? Never doing anything.
And take it to the grave.
Working on weekends or projects or you know, whatever. I mean, look, I'm not talking about
severe alcoholism and depleting depression.
I'm just talking about general kind of, you know, lethargy.
Just listen, I said to everybody,
I told everyone in my fucking group when I was like 21,
I said, look, I'm not gonna fucking be swinging a hammer my whole life. I'm not
going to go.
Who did you tell? Chris and Ray?
I told Chris, Ray, Donnie, I told everybody around me, I'm not going to be 60 and on a
construction site.
I didn't know about this conversation. What did they say?
Well, I didn't gather them in a room. I just said, I said, we got to look ahead 10 years.
I don't want to be on a corruption side. Yeah.
Pfft.
With the reactions, go fucking do whatever you want,
but I'm fucking hanging out here.
And they didn't care.
They were just like, go do what you want.
I went back and found some document from the groundlings.
I gotta dig it out, but this is 1987,
and I was in my third year at the Ground Link.
So I started earlier than I thought.
I was like 21 and I just said, I'm not going to be doing this.
I don't want to be doing this for the rest of my life.
It's a hard job and it gets harder as you get older.
Your body gets beat up.
I'm going to be driving a shitty pickup truck and stacking drywall.
I probably said when I'm 50 back then and I was like, I'm not doing this.
I want to start looking into other stuff.
And everyone looked at me and just said, good luck.
And if you go find Chris and Ray today, go, what are you doing?
They do construction.
That's what they do.
I don't know that they hated it or hate it.
It hasn't been fruitful
It's been a living, you know what I mean? But it's not fruitful, but I didn't want that
So I was wired, you know, I had a different motivation
They don't and and that'll probably hold true most everyone I grew up with back to motivation though. I motivation can be changed
Can be. It's hard.
I've never been able to change anyone's motivation and I've given a lot of speeches
to people who all resent me for the speech I gave them and I've never been an inspiration to anybody around me and I've never been a pathway toward anything I've never helped anyone one iota in the motivation or the inspiration department
They've done nothing any anything I suggested
No one has ever done to your point about everyone being and I've told everyone everything for the last
2530 years to your point about everyone being I would say that guys like Jordan Peterson and whatnot are
They're trying to motivate people
and that's why people respond to them.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a group, those are the folks heading to the octagon.
Yeah, yeah.
There's...
Oh, come on to the octagon.
That's a good motivator.
There's people who do nothing and then there are the people who are up at 4.30 this morning
and taking their cold plunge.
That's what we're dealing with.
We're going to be dealing with fucking extremes And that's why the safe spaces people at some point are gonna have to go to the ultra fit
people in the octagon and beg them for protection or money or help.
That's where it's going.
You've been saying it.
Okay.
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It's doing standup there November 29th.
Working on a weekend, Drew!
What? Yep, Houston, Texas. Got a show coming up there at the Arena Theater.
That is December 6th and also Phoenix, Hilton Phoenix, Tapatio. Yeah, Tapatio
Cliffs Resort. Pretty cool place. Doing stand up there with Shoemaker.
That'll be December 7th.
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