The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1947 Aggrandizing with Fritz Coleman
Episode Date: November 28, 2024Today, Fritz Coleman continues with the guys, as they dissect the hereditary nature of addiction, Adam shares his weird gas station interaction, and they dissect the human brain's need for shortcuts. ...Plus, they take a voicemail on family isolation for Thanksgiving over the election, and they reminisce on the struggles of the old radio days, Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage. For more with Fritz Coleman: ONE MAN SHOW: 'Unassisted Residency' Live at The El Portal Theater -  January 6th, 2025, February 23rd 2025, & March 30th, 2025 WEBSITE: Fritzcolemancomedy.com INSTAGRAM: @realFritzColeman TWITTER/X: @theFritzColeman
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Fritz Coleman is joining us once again.
He's back by popular demand, everybody.
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Seasoned pro at the height of his powers good. See you again Fritz
Great to be here guys
we were talking about addiction in our last episode,
and I don't know who has,
I don't know what you think, Drew, about my thinking.
Uh-oh, here we go.
I love a drink so much that I never wanted to spiral
into the point where I must quit.
Yes, I've heard people say things like that.
But usually those are non-alcoholics.
Aren't they?
Usually.
Since I think about, like I'll go,
if you tell me, oh, we're going out to a steak dinner
on Saturday night, I'll start thinking about my martini.
And I wouldn't enjoy it as much if I went out
and couldn't have that martini,
but I suppose if I crashed my car three consecutive weekends
and got three DUIs, then I couldn't have the martini.
Not worth it.
But I don't know if that's like alcoholic think.
You know what I mean?
It can be, it sure could be,
but you sort of, the history speaks for itself.
If it doesn't progress, or there aren't consequences,
then you can kind of relax a little bit.
Well, I'm always baffled by people that, you know,
wine connoisseurs and they discuss,
oh, this came from Napa in 1978, and it's all,
it's like science and it's not drinking.
I'm always dazzled by these people that analyze it that way and can have a have a
we have all you know all these fancy wines in our basement and and it never crosses that threshold.
I've always been jealous of people that seem to enjoy it but I can't. I'll tell you the world is
better and safer because I don't drink. You mentioned your dad last show that your dad's
alcoholic. What else happened to that family of origin?
In Philadelphia or wherever you outscrewed some of them?
Yes, it was Philly and then when they retired,
he went to Florida.
But my father was a salesman and he worked for a company
that sold construction material to other countries and stuff.
And that was the day when the business was conducted by
drinks faced men.
Yeah.
Right.
You know, you would take your client out to dinner.
You would buy him Johnny Walker or an expensive Scotch.
And that's how you close deals.
That's how you got his name on the site.
So I always told my father, I thought his drinking was a work related
disability because that's the way they did.
That's the way they did business in those days
Yeah, and oh they would have three martini lunches. Oh
worse than that I used to he worked in downtown Philadelphia and
We used to I don't know if you're familiar with the restaurant called book binders
Have you ever heard that's a great like a lobster and steak restaurant and he would go there every day for lunch
And so once once or twice a year, I would go down and have lunch with him.
And it was a harrowing experience.
He would go out and he'd start out with a couple of Bloody Marys.
Then with lunch, he'd have two or three glasses of wine.
Then after lunch, he would have two or three martinis and then go back to work and have
a fully functioning afternoon.
It was, his capacity was unbelievable. And, uh, you know, they've studied, uh,
sons of alcoholic fathers to try to predict what is the trait that they share that predicts the
potential for alcoholism. And they rolled through a number of different traits
and they discovered one and only one
that was highly predictive of the disease,
which is resistance to alcohol intoxication.
Wow.
That is the son?
Sons of alcoholic fathers.
And it turns out that genetic component
that creates that resistance
is present throughout the
Amalian Kingdom and even if they took it down to the fruit fly and they were
actually able to isolate the genes. Well I there's also I don't think it's just
alcohol in the sense that I have an ability to function
What sleep-deprived or alcohol or whatever it is I take a sleeping pill I don't fall asleep, you know
Versus but it's a sort of a hyper vigilance with your blood pressure
I'm gonna check it. Okay good. I pulled into a gas station last night
Last night and pitch black. I mean the lights were on at the gas station, but it was the night. Yeah, there was a man
Standing in the bay where you would pull up and fill up your car
And it was a Asian man and he was you know put together and he's probably 60 and he was
staring down at something that he'd purchased maybe those Zin tobacco things
or whatever he's trying to fiddling with the thing and I pulled up he was just
blocking standing there now I hate it when people honk the horn when people are
like walking by or something because I don't I it. Like I hate it when somebody's behind somebody
in the street and then you're the pedestrian
and you're walking by the front of the car
and they're honking at the, it scares the shit out of me.
So I didn't want to honk the horn at the guy,
but also he was just standing there.
So I hit him with my high beams and he didn't move.
He was oriented toward me. I'm driving a big
SUV, it's four feet off the ground, the headlights. He's looking at his thing. He's trying to
get this little zing pouch open.
It's a certain kind of...
No, I don't admire it at all. He's going to get hit by a fucking car. He's way out of it. But the point is, is I flip him the high beams again.
I'm only eight feet away from him,
hitting with high beams,
and he's oriented toward the front of my car,
and he's still staring down at this thing.
At some point, what I assume is his wife,
because I don't see a lot of Asians in Malibu,
and she was Asian as well
she
Went and got him like she was watching me. I didn't want to hit the horn because I just didn't want to be rude. I
Thought I was being rude to me. He might just have an amazing power of concentration. That's what I'm saying now
No, but it's kind of weird because I have an amazing power of concentration
which would immediately pull me out of this thing.
Right, I don't really have an amazing power.
Did he startle her or anything when she came and got him?
Oh, oh, what about?
No, she just, she was witnessing me
trying to hit this guy with high beams
and then she just walked across the center aisle
where the pumps were
and we're like, hey, hon.
And he was like, huh?
You gotta move, you can't stand here.
But the notion that he was just standing there
and I pulled up in a full-size SUV
and I'm flicking high beams at him,
you'd think would be mathematically impossible
or he'd have to be drugged out of his gourd or whatever.
Just a middle-aged dude looking at something else.
So there is a focus factor here.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
We have a story that I wanted to get into,
and we didn't get into it from the first show,
and it kind of ties into this.
The simplicity one?
Yeah, the simplicity one.
Your brain wants shortcuts, right?
Yes, yes. I kind of, I think to frame it as simplicity is sort of a mistake, because we
also know that's what happens with wisdom, is that rather than parsing things into tiny
elements, we can clump things together as a shortcut and understand things as a whole. Right? And that's a simpler way of doing it, but it's also kind of a complex way of doing it.
Our brains can put these things together and hold them as a single entity in mind.
And yeah, to do any of this though requires focus. And it's interesting that, well first of all, focus these days is in short supply, generally.
Oh, yes.
Yes, and so it's kind of why I admired your Asian friend
in the middle of the parking lot
or in the middle of the gas station,
because he could focus, he just had a sort of a barrier.
Yeah, but I don't look at that as focus,
I look at that as just flat out out of it.
Out of it, yes, it could be, it could be.
You know, I have the same thing. I mean back to the roads of Malibu the tough streets of Malibu. I
Drive sometimes through the canyon through Las Virginas or whatever
It's a windy Canyon, but the speed limit is 35 and 40 depending on where you are
There are people who just will not drive through a canyon
at the speed limit.
They just go 26 miles an hour.
That's just what they're doing.
And they are pulling a wagon train of 30 cars.
And I get behind those guys and I flash them.
And I'm just saying, just move over.
And they just, they stay at 26.
And I flash them again.
They don't speed up. They don't slow down
They just drive at this speed
But it's at night and I'm seven feet behind them and I'm flashing this thing and it doesn't
Phase them at all. And by the way, these are modern cars one big mirror, you know big outdoor mirrors big outside mirrors beginner
I don't know what they're doing
But maybe they don't they're not doing anything.
They're just going 26 miles an hour.
But you would think if you have some awareness
of your surroundings, you'd help a guy out.
I don't think people care about their surroundings anymore.
I've seen way too many people fight in airports
to think that people really care about their surroundings
anymore.
But you know who doesn't care about their surroundings?
Animals.
That's right.
They have no thoughts about their surroundings.
Unless it endangers them.
Yes, unless it endangers them.
It is Thanksgiving, and back to this simplicity thing, the human brain.
Our brain will do whatever is in the interest of survival
in evolution.
We are a perfectly evolved instrument that we hold in our skull.
And if you want to know why something is the way it is, it's because it helps survival.
And what's interesting to me, I was going to say, as it pertains to Thanksgiving and
this sort of clumping process that the brain does, that's how we form myths
too. Right? We only do easy myths. We don't do complicated myths. We simply simplify them.
Thus the whole Thanksgiving myth is a very simplified version of a much more complicated
situation. But myths to me, always, they are an example of that simplifying function of the brain, but they're also designed
to be able to be communicated to children. And so...
Hey Drew, do you think that that's one of the things that explains the attraction to
QAnon conspiracy theories because it's simple ways to...
Yeah, it's a little different, yes, and when the brain feels like it's not getting the
whole story or something is hidden from them, certain personality styles have to fill it in
with something and they fill it in with paranoid ideation. It's not good. It's not what you call
good. So sure, that's alive and well also. We have a message, by the way, a phone message.
Thanksgiving message, huh?
Well, it's Frank, and he has to go visit his family for Thanksgiving, but I think they're
angry at him.
He said he didn't vote the way they wanted him to vote, but let's hear that one.
Emmy?
Hi, Adam and Dr. Drew.
My name is Frank.
My question is this. So I voted for Donald Trump
this past general election and the rest of my family, mother, father, brother and sister
voted for Kamala Harris. Now, the rest of my family lives in Florida. I live here in Los Angeles,
California in the San Pedro neighborhood. Now, before you get into the weeds on that,
yes, I'm a Republican that lives in California. The rest of my family are liberals that live
in Florida. Don't let that confuse you. It's bizarre. I know. Now, my question is, they do not want me to come
to Thanksgiving this year based on how I voted in the general election, which I was open
about. I'm not going to lie to people. How do I sort of try to figure this out? I'd like to come, I'd like to let bygones be bygones.
They don't want to.
So how do I figure out this situation?
Appreciate your help.
Thanks.
Bye.
All right.
I got a few thoughts.
One is, I wonder, you know, when you live in a place that is deep blue like Los Angeles, you realize that many of these policies aren't
effective. You see a lot of shoplifting and a lot of homelessness and things of that nature,
crime or what have you, gas is six bucks a gallon or heading towards six bucks a gallon out here and you if you lived in it you'd go I don't like it. If you lived in Florida and that
wasn't your environment I could see myself embracing some of these policies
as long as I didn't have to live the policy you know so I and they think it's
ironic that they're in Florida and vote the way he she votes.
It goes into the heading of these are things that sound good on paper.
Right, but see, I hate my theories.
I don't think it's, I would think it would work that way, that you might be in Florida
and you'd go-
Be more left.
Well, not more left, just sort of like I'm willing to give defunding the police a try
as long as we keep our police and they try it in Portland or something like
that.
I think being, I've lived in Los Angeles my entire life.
I feel like I got beat over the head with their bad policies and that's why I don't
like it.
But if I lived somewhere where I wasn't beat over the head, I may not feel that way.
But as far as the family goes and the philosophy goes, and Fritz,
we're gonna get you to weigh in on this.
I am lucky in that if somebody does something
that I think is unfair or unreasonable
or does not want me somewhere for something I really,
again, this is not the last time you were there,
you had sex with the husband of your of your sister or something. It's not that.
This is just, you voted this way, they voted that way, and so did half the
country. So your thing would be I just wouldn't go? I wouldn't go and it would
just be on them. I mean that that's the decision they've they've made I don't I don't
David Alan Greer doesn't speak to me anymore because he thinks I'm some sort of right-wing
troll and
That's fine with me because he made the decision. I
Would be very upset if I made the decision. Yes, but when the other person makes the decision to be unreasonable, then that is that.
And that's how I would approach it.
But Fritz, what do you think?
Well, I go back to what you said at first.
Dr. Drew used the perfect phrase,
it looks good on paper.
I think that 85% of the people who are so anti-immigrant in this country don't live in a border state.
They don't live anywhere where the immigrants make up a majority of the agricultural workforce.
And so they don't get the other side of it.
It's just an us against them thing.
And so I don't want anybody in South Dakota holding up signs, send the immigrants back,
because I don't want to in South Dakota holding up science send the
Immigrants back because I don't want to listen to what you say come out here and look at the people working hard in our
Strawberry fields in Camarillo and tell me these people aren't valuable. So I
Agree with what dr. Drew said I think some of this stuff looks good on paper
Particularly the people that are not exposed to it in their daily lives
I would tell them to I would tell to be the bigger man and go in on it and just show up. It'd be very interesting.
I, I, one thing though,
that'd be great.
But I'll tell you the one thing is that because this is bullshit that people let this happen and I hate it that it breaks up
families, but, but I, I, uh, can pretty much guarantee this is not his parents.
Maybe the sister?
It's a sibling or something.
Well also, isn't there an element of, isn't there an element, I have this quite a bit,
I don't know if you guys do or not, when somebody sort of shows their cards. You know what I mean? It's equivalent to you see somebody
kick their dog or something.
They were in the next room,
but the door had a mirror on it,
it was just the right angle,
and you heard them kick the dog.
You saw them kick their dog, you know?
And then they came out and they went,
what are we doing for lunch?
You know, and you would go, I'm turned off.
You wouldn't say anything.
Like, for me, it'd be like, I would be like,
okay, now I kinda know who this person is.
And then I would say something like,
oh man, I just got a text from my nephew,
he's got an issue, I can't go to lunch.
And then I would probably leave and not bring up,
I would never go back to this person's home and have lunch.
That's what I'm saying.
And so when somebody does a, we don't, you're our family,
but you think different than us,
and you're disinvited from Thanksgiving, that's a tell.
You're saying something about the person's character.
Do you know what I'm saying? If it's your home, you can set some ground rules.
You can say, yeah, we're gonna have a thing,
but let's avoid politics at the table.
If you don't mind, it'll just keep everything quiet.
I mean, the homeowner has the right to set some ground rules,
but don't disinvite them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah.
And also, it's also, you really like, I was thinking about it this morning,
which is how fast and loose people play with their relationships.
Could be a friend, could be a family member, could be a whatever, you know what I mean?
Like where you go, your adult son hasn't spoken to you
in 14 years, is that okay?
Like you're playing real fast and loose with things,
you know, like I was thinking about it this morning.
I was thinking about it as it pertained to my own divorce
where my ex-wife was so out of bounds.
I was like out of bounds,
I was like, all right, well, I'm never gonna talk to you again
because of how horrific you've acted,
but why so casual?
You know what I mean?
Why is it so easy to do that?
Yeah, I was thinking about extended family members
from her side and stuff like that.
I'm never talking to these people ever again,
but why so fast and loose with that? And people do it with their own kids.
It's kind of bizarre. I started thinking about my parents and sort of like,
do you have two kids that never really liked you and don't really respect you and don't really
want to hang out with you? Is that, that's cool? You know what I mean? Like, that's okay?
This woman has a son who lives in Southern California
who's not around because he voted differently than you,
or is that okay?
And then when people, friends go,
well, where's Jeremy this year?
How's he doing?
Well, he wasn't invited because he voted for Trump.
Like, is that okay with you? Well, he wasn't invited because he voted for Trump. Is that okay with you?
Yeah, yeah.
Is that just, why so fast and loose with all this stuff?
I don't, I mean, I guess that's,
I guess it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You can do it.
If you can do it, then maybe you do do it,
but it's casual, it's weird.
Remember, everyone's been in a hysterical state
for a while. Yeah. This is sort of more of that stuff.
Emmy, did you put a sign up that said break?
Okay, you know, it's facing you.
Sorry, I thought it was double-sided,
just like the other one's my bad.
No, I had to do it with Dawson,
because I had to double-side it,
because we've discussed it.
We have to with Emmy, too.
Yeah, it's interesting.
I'm sorry.
That's all right, all right. We'll take a quick break
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All right. So hypervigilance,
hypervigilance, speaking of that, I noticed out of my corner, my
sign up and my hypervigilance, but it was blank.
So I wasn't sure what to do is on the page.
Who is J.
Fredericks?
That was a name that I used earlier in my radio career
because my boss refused to allow me to call myself Fritz on the air because he thought I sounded like a Nazi camp guard.
Nobody nobody in my radio stations called himself Fritz.
So Jay Frederick's is part of my real name.
And your real name.
Hmm.
How's that?
Jay Frederick Coleman.
Joseph Frederick Coleman is my name. Don't you try to hijack my social security number?
And uh, yeah, I mean the thing about
A unique name is it's it's weird until it's not
Because then it's good
You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, I hated this, and I was young and now I like it because it's different
It's a different Joseph Frederick. And so here's the comedy about radio. We can't call him Joe, but Jay
Call him Jay
Sounds like a radio move
Well, there would all those be the st. Claire and the st. Harmans and the saint that people did a lot of fake saint
Yeah last names, which is a little
self-aggrandizing, you've sainted yourself, you know what I mean? Your last name is Fagan
Bomb and now it's St. Clair, you know?
Radio, God.
Yeah, radio...
So many conventions in radio that were just ridiculous.
Ridiculous, ridiculous. Just so many conventions.
You're right.
Tell them the story about,
oh, I'm blanking on it now with Jack,
and what was the story about him assessing comedy?
God, I can't believe I forget it now.
Jack Silver?
Yeah.
Well, he wasn't assessing, what do you mean?
Oh, I was telling you, the guys that came in for free that he was telling you they needed to
go. He didn't want there were three guys that came in and did my morning radio show on a
on a regular basis. And radio in a weird way. Radio has a lot of qualities that women have in relationships.
You know?
But no, anyone that's been with a woman can know this,
that if you say to a woman, like, oh man,
have you seen the wooden spatula?
I can't find it.
And you know, I think it's in the drawer.
And if four weeks later you went, oh, where's the wooden spatula? I can't find it and you know, I think it's in the drawer and if four weeks later you went
Oh, where's that wooden spatula? What's the obsession with the spatula?
You know when you go I i'm not I don't have a spatula obsession. I'm just asking for
A thing, you know what I mean? Like they get right there and it's weird
And I I find myself having conversations with them all the time like
I don't have an obsession with this And it's weird. And I find myself having conversations with women all the time, like,
I don't have an obsession with this.
I'm not consumed with it, I'm just asking.
The other move that women do is they don't respond
the first time.
So you go, what time's the movie start?
And they go, no answer.
And then you go, what time's the movie?
730, okay?
It's like, okay. but if you don't answer,
then I'm allowed to do.
And Jack Silver, radio guys would be like,
in a weird way, they'd go, this guy would come in
and they'd go, he's in all the time.
And he'd go, well, every six months or so
for a 10 minute segment.
I don't know if that's all the time, it's a four hour show,
but it was
Jack Silver did not like these three guys coming back on such heavy rotation.
And the guys were Joel McHale, Louis CK and Zach.
Zach Galifianakis.
Not a bad group to have on a heavy three names you've never heard before.
Yeah. He wanted to know why they had to keep coming back. And I was like, well, because they're funny. Alphanacus. Not a bad group to have on a heavy duty. Three names you've never heard before. Yeah
He wanted to know why they had to keep coming back and I was like well because they're funny And we have four hours a day to do but that's that's their
Contribution to the creative aspect of the show is what are you doing that for?
They leave you know, which is funny, but it's radio and radios,
radio is weird because you're gonna be funnier
than everyone who's your boss.
Yeah.
And now we're gonna have issues, you know,
which is something, you know, I had to deal with,
but so did Jimmy Kimmel, you know, back in the day.
He did a lot of radio.
And probably even in TV, he probably had that problem
because there's a lot of those guys that aren't funny
that are the bosses.
Oh, we-
He did the smart thing and let his wife produce the show.
That was a good thing.
Yeah, the Academy Awards as well.
We had, well, when we did the Man Show,
the producers were Stone Stanley
and they weren't allowed in the building for tape day.
So we literally just went, you're not allowed,
you're the producers of this,
you're not allowed to be in this building when we film
because you're detrimental to the creative process.
And, you know, but they wouldn't be.
They would be on vacation a lot of times.
And I would say like, where's Stone?
Or Stanley?
And they'd go, he's going to Israel for six weeks.
I'd be like, okay.
But the joke was always on us because he's in Israel, Scott Stone's in Israel, and we're
fucking doing 12-hour days producing a show that he's getting paid Scott stones in Israel and we're fucking doing 12 hour days
Producing a show that he's getting paid for you know what I mean look I was always like I don't know why it's a slap in the face to the guy who's
Vacationing while we're sitting at a desk
writing fart jokes
You know what I mean like why is that I've always I?
Wanted that that was my that was my goal to be like him. Yeah
The goal I don't know Fritz you you you had a different childhood
the nine but
the notion of
Getting paid
When you weren't at work was insane
an insane thought yeah
was insane. An insane thought. It didn't exist where I came from. Everything was hours and log hours and gather hours and argue over hours. You took a half day on
Thursday, I had to go to the dentist. Well, fine, but you get a half day. You could
pay for half a day. You know what I mean? Like it was getting paid and not showing up was insane.
It's part of why I'm driven nuts as a boss a lot of times, that people like, he's missed
three days.
Yeah.
He's getting paid.
Like, it's why I went nuts with the teachers unions and COVID and stuff.
I'm like, everyone's getting paid and staying home.
It drove me nuts and it went all the way through half my adult life too.
You didn't get paid.
That's how construction was.
So I couldn't wrap my mind around having six months
left on a contract and sent home to get paid.
Yeah, it's crazy.
In construction, if you found a guy who fell off a ladder
and shattered his hip and was home for four months getting paid,
we were like, that's the luckiest guy. He fell off that scaffolding and now he's home watching TV
while we're here working. Like it was, it's nuts.
In the heat. Fritz told you to be that way.
That world, man. Fritz, what else for you
beside the one-man show? I want to ask Dr. Do a question because he won't charge me for
this time period. How dare you? So what's the reality of the hereditary nature of addiction?
I always heard it was like 3% that your progeny would have an addiction as well.
Is that true?
Does that sound right?
It's 10% of the population at large, but if you have a history of addiction, it's about
50% per child that the child has the genetic potential, unless you're from a couple of
specific genetic groups for instance
Cherokee Indian and the original Mormon population that settled
settled Salt Lake City in which case it's 100%. Well you're
Iroquois Indian is that what you're saying? They're a different tribe.
Anandaga from eastern United States. Anyway, I love talking to you guys.
Thank you for the opportunity to chat with you.
You got it.
Thank you.
It's Fritz Coleman Unassisted Residency Live, Aleportal Theater, North Hollywood.
Yep.
Coming up dates, Drew?
January 26th, February 23rd, March 30th.
There you go.
The great Fritz Coleman.
Oh, good. At real Fritz Coleman Instagram
The website is fritzcolemancomedy.com where you get tickets there. Great talk to you again my friend. Pleasure. Have a great Thanksgiving.
Good to see you. See you in February. I will be at Oxnard Levity live doing Fritz's act. Actually that'll be
Nah, I'll do my own act. We'll do that tomorrow, seven o'clock, and then Houston, and then Phoenix,
and then New York, and then Solana Beach.
What do you got, Drew?
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
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So, until next time, I'm Adam Crow for Dr. Drew,
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