The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1949 Takes a Big Man to Admit I'm Right

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

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Yeah, baby. New York City. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's, New York's back, I gotta tell you. He walked down Fifth Avenue now. He is busy, Jesus. Like if you like the old days.

Yeah, Drew sounds a little teeny. But that's all right, that's all right, it's fine. Damn it, we have the fanciest setup here. Well, you know. Should be perfect. Listen, I gotta say with technology, I don't know where you're at, but I'm okay. Let's try to explore this for a second. All right. I feel this way about airline travel. You know, you're flying from Newark to LAX and at some point they tell you that the flight's been delayed 40 minutes and people lose their shit.

You know, they're like, oh, goddamn, why me? God damn it. Why me? You know what I mean? It's like, dude, people, it took months to make this passage and many people died not too long ago. This isn't that big a deal. You go sit at the Chili's and have a beer, look at your phone. You know what I mean? Far be it from me to complain about some marvel of technology that you cross this nation in five and a half hours. You know what I mean? It is, it is. While traveling at 600 miles an hour, 35,000 feet in the air. And you're in New York, I'm in Glendale,

we're having a conversation, it's being recorded and then it'll go out worldwide. And once in a while things sound a little different or there's a flight delay. I have no thoughts about that. I have every thought about stupid self-inflicted stuff. You know what I mean? I don't, I, I, and it also makes me wonder where people's heads are at who, who have that kind of thing, you know, where they go to the supermarket and there's

ham and there's smoked ham and there's turkey and there's smoked turkey and there's provolone and there's everything. And at some point they find out that they're out of honey roasted provolone, you know, and they go, Oh, Jesus Christ, why me? You know, that's like, listen, you live, why me? You know, it's like, listen, you live in a place where there's 7,000 food choices, people used to have to forage for berries and roots, you know what I mean? So... Well, you know what this is evidence of?

I don't have that. Yes. It's that humans can get used to anything. I know, but I still... I always think it's narcissism too. Like the 40 minute delay on the flight from Newark to LAX, that has nothing to do with you. You're still gonna get there. Nobody's gonna miss you.

There's nothing that's in LA that you need to be at. You know what I mean? Just fucking shut up and relax. And there's another 200 people who are experiencing the same thing as you. Right? Of course. Not you, it's everybody. Yeah. And you travel all the time and this happens once in a while. So don't give me the every time, you know, sort of thing. You know, that's the other narcissistic thing that people do all the time. They go, every time I, it's not every time, it's less than 2% of the time.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, it's, it's, to me, it's further evidence that humans can get used to anything. Yeah. It's both good and bad, right? And we also get used to horrible things that we just sort of shoulder and move along. I'll never forget, I mean, you were talking about, here we are looking at each other on a computer screen

and we're talking across the country. I'll never forget when my dad first did a FaceTime, he did it like on an old app. Who did? My father, this is like 12, 14 years ago, and he's like, oh my God, it's here, the video phone, it's here, the video phone, the little here. The video phone, the little scope, looked like a little TV set on the telephone,

that was how we imagined it. Well, it came in ways we didn't expect it, but it came. All right, so we got some subjects to get into. One is, you must be aware of, I think the COVID information, One is you must be aware of, I think the COVID information, the task force just came back with their findings after two years, surprise, surprise, surprise. Shocking, I would say what, 90% of conspiracy theories, so-called, turned out to be factually accurate.

Yes, and not only that, but I mean there's two approaches to the COVID information. One is Fauci and the government and the news agencies and everyone getting everything wrong, and then the other part of it, which I find interesting and this is sort of the tell that I wish people would kind of catch on to. Whether it's COVID as a subject and finding out information about what we did right, what we did wrong, and where, was it a lab leak, was it a wet market? Whether it's COVID or January 6th, why is half the government fighting to keep the information suppressed?

Does anyone have any thoughts about that? You know, COVID is something, January 6th is something very different. They're both events. They're both events that, you know, potentially and had a lot of negative outcomes and they're both, they're both events that the government just sort of said,

well, we'd like to get to the bottom of this and we don't like it and we think it's dangerous. So why are the Democrats fighting every step of the way when the folks who wanna find out what went on with COVID or what went on with January 6th, why are they fighting them? I don't get it if they just wanna know what happened or is it they lied the whole time and now they're trying to cover their tracks,

which is what we know happened. But why does that not alarm most citizens? It's COVID. It's not a left or right thing. It's not a red or blue thing. It's called COVID. So why are we fighting about giving us information? Let's think about it. Why did this happen? I mean, it's it's so fucking odd. It was an election year That's what happened. Well, but hold on. He goes all the way down to ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine Why do you have an opinion about any of this shit? Why do you have an opinion the fuck's going on here? Yeah, well, here's what happened. Is everyone buckled in? Lockdowns were a bad idea and hurt kids especially.

Oh! Especially the kids they wanna protect. The black and the brown kids. They love them so much. They don't give a fuck about those kids. They'd have school choice if they like those kids. Who in Hollywood said open those schools? Who fought with the school boards about it?

Who was called a heretic and a Hypocrite and a a racist and everything murder at murder Out of touch who who told the LA Unified you should fucking open your schools the entire time That's this podcaster who fought with everyone about it. That's this podcaster Lockdowns did not work, but it certainly didn't work as it pertained to school-age kids and it hurt school-age kids, so I'll go one for one that. Six-foot social distancing did nothing. Oh, it did nothing. It was invented out of whole cloth. It was useless from the beginning. It was obviously going to fail that. No good. Shocking. That's no good. It most likely came from a lab in Wuhan. What? I'll go three for three here. And then whatever else. Look, I don't know why they need to do a COVID report. They just listen to my podcast and that'll be their

COVID report. Now, I was right about everything. I got yelled at about everything. No one's ever going to apologize, but... Did I yell at you about anything? The only... Because if I did, I want to apologize. OK, we had some slight variations slash disagreements with Fauci. About him as a person sort of thing, as a leader. Well, I said he was compromised. That's all. And I don't know a better word to use for Fauci

than compromised. I don't really want to call him a criminal, and I don't want to say he doesn't know anything, he doesn't know what he's doing, you know? He's an imbecile, he's got, you know. The problem with people is they paint with that broad brush, you know. He's got no business, you know,

he doesn't know what he's doing. You know, it's like, yeah, he's got business, he knows what he's doing, he knows what he's doing, he doesn't know what he's doing. You know, it's like yeah, he's got business. He knows what he's doing You know, he knows what he's doing. He's been compromised. He's been Compromised like doctors who work for Philip Morris who were explaining to Congress that nicotine wasn't addicting They're not it's not they don't know what they're doing. It's not that they're incompetent. It's not that they're not Physicians it's not that they're not physicians. It's not that they're not highly trained. It's that they've been compromised. Philip Moore's paid them to say something. He had a deal with gain of function in Wuhan labs and so he was compromised and that's why we don't need to listen to him. And I kept saying no no

he was a great leader during the AIDS epidemic, and he will revert to the mean, which he did not. He did not revert to the mean. And here's what I want to apologize to you about. I did not appreciate the depth of the term compromise. I did not appreciate how thoroughly so many bureaucrats in our government have been compromised. And for that, I say I am deeply regretful and I apologize. And I should have listened more closely to what you were suggesting and dug in deeper until I did understand it instead of taking whatever time it took for me to come to my own conclusion that you were right. Well, it takes a big man to admit when I'm right.

Put that on a t-shirt, Kyle. Come on now, Emmy. That's going to be our next t-shirt. You write it down. We're releasing that for Christmas. And so I knew he was compromised. All right, there's that. What else did we disagree on? Well, I knew all the Sanjay Guptas and all those quacks were compromised. I knew he was compromised. And I- Right, there's that. What else did we disagree on? I wanna get it all in. I knew all the Sanjay Goop does and all those quacks were compromised. I knew all that.

Now, you also had a little sort of mask. Is it effective? Well, maybe it's 10% effective. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially the beginning. Yeah, at the beginning you had a little, is mask effective.

Now look, let me explain something to everyone. As I've said many times, I know everything because I know nothing. That's how I know everything. Put that t-shirt on. But, I mean, get that on a t-shirt. The big bandit bit when I'm right. No, but I do want that.

I do wanna work on that t-shirt Don't forget. Okay, so listen to me. Yeah, I Far be it for me to argue with people like you and those in the CDC about the effectiveness of masks I can't argue with that I can't argue that when it's worn around your chin and you're eating a snack on an airplane, it's not effective. I can also argue that when the strap that goes around your ears twisted into a figure eight and there's now a large 7-8's gap, air gap where it's bunched up and I can see your lips through it, it's not effective.

I can also tell you when it's worn under through it, it's not effective. I can also tell you when it's worn under your nose, it's not effective. And seeing as how that's how 80% of the people I saw were donning the mask, I then deemed the mask ineffective not because it was ineffective, but because it was not being worn correctly or even at all, even close to correctly. If I can see both your nostrils, then you're not really wearing a mask and it's not doing anything. So I announced the mask doesn't do anything, not because the mask didn't do anything, more because nobody wore it in the correct fashion. So I knew masks were out. Yes. So one of the thing about apologies is there are opportunities to learn Yeah, and I am as we are parsing through my apologies here. I'm realizing there's a pattern and

and I want to dig into a little bit because the pattern is I Don't listen to you carefully enough. I don't hear what you're actually saying. And I'm assuming that's my fault, so I apologize for that. Well, I never said Fauci's a dumbo. I said he was compromised. And that's the part you should have. And I didn't appreciate the meaning of that word.

It would have been hard for me to even get it. And back in the mask days, my basic position was, well, I'm thinking, well, what about the N95? What about worn perfectly? And the reality is, I never should have considered that because it doesn't fucking matter because no one wears them perfectly. And that's the point you were making.

I wasn't even saying perfectly. I'm talking, they don't even wear them haphazardly Yeah, you know people were pulling their shirts up over their face in order to like pick up fast food at the counter You know, I'll just pull my t-shirt over my face like somebody farted, you know, like It was so abundantly clear that nobody, look, again, mask up in between bites. I just said, all right, well now, now we don't need masks. Okay, that's number one. The other one, I'm just going off of memory here

that you push back a little. The hydroxychloroquine and the ivermectin, you were kind of agnostic about, well, there's nothing that really shows that it proves that it's effective, that you were a of agnostic about, well, there's nothing that really shows that it proves that it's effective, that it, you know, you were, you were a little bit. I'm still a little that way. You were a little more that way. Yeah, I was, I was, uh, yeah, probably. Uh, uh, and I, I am accused of being a pharmacy shill because I say things like, you know, the Pax Levit, I've had great experience that it really works and Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine,

I'm sort of unimpressed, not great. And that's it. That's still where I am. But let's use this as a learning instrument, learning opportunity. Well, not for me. I don't need to learn anything. So what was your point that I, there was something I clearly didn't hear you say, because that's Let's use this as a learning instrument, a learning opportunity. Well not for me. I don't need to learn anything. So what was your point that I, there was something I clearly didn't hear you say because that's

my pattern. So what were you saying about hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin? I wasn't saying much about it. I was, because obviously I have no experience with either substance. I've never ingested either one and I've never ingested either one, and I've never heard of either one. It was more the fact that people's reaction to it was so powerful that I knew there was something. It's my what's in the trunk analogy, you know what I mean? The cop pulls over, hey, pop the trunk. Why Why why do you need to see what's in the trunk? You know, I mean, well now I really want to know what's in the trunk

Why are you fucking if there's just a spare tire and a and a jack in there then you're not reacting that way, right? right, so the fact that the media and Sanjay Gupta and CNN and all the other liars took a full And Sanjay Gupta and CNN and all the other liars took a full frontal assault on hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin made me very suspicious at the very beginning that there was something that was more effective about it than they wanted you to know. And it started with that poor, Hasidic doctor out of Brooklyn. Dr. Zelenko. poor, Hasidic doctor out of Brooklyn, I will say. Dr. Zelenko.

Zelenko, who was like zinc and hydroxychloroquine, and I can't remember what else. Yeah, he has a Zelenko products now. Well, he's passed. Yeah, he passed away of a sarcoma in his pulmonary artery. He basically said that with zinc and with hydroxychloroquine and with maybe something else he was seeing great effects and they went after him like a maniac.

They tried to destroy his world. Be suspicious everybody that when I say, you know, the best, to me the best tasting hot dog is mustard and onion, you know, and then someone will go, oh, we tried a mustard hot dog and we didn't like it very much and I go mustard and onion and they go oh okay well we tried a handful of onion without the hot dog and it didn't taste very good I go it's a mustard onion hot dogs well hey we try it's like well wait a minute you're not doing what I'm telling you to do and you're arguing you know what I mean so what they would do with Zelenko is he would go zinc and hydroxychloroquine they go we tried just using zinc and it didn't have any... And we go, no, zinc and hydroxychloroquine. And they go, we tried just using hydroxychloroquine

and we didn't... Well, you're not doing what he said to do and then you're arguing with him, but why are you playing stupid? And the quercetin, that was his other big thing, quercetin. Yeah. He's like, there's three things, you put them together and it's effective, and everyone who fought him did one thing separately and then said it wasn't effective, which means now we're getting back to stupider liar? Yeah. Right. And so I knew something was up by the way they reacted the same way I knew Fauci was compromised by the way he reacted.

Yeah, you're right. Everyone listen to him. Everyone listen to me. Let me tell you about... But look, if somebody can think of something I got wrong, even minute, I'll take a small one. If anyone can think of anything, pass it along. I'll be very curious.

Because guess what? That's how you learn. That's how you'll learn stuff. You'll examine it and something will come out of it. That should be everybody's interest. Right. Except for they won't, so I'm not learning anything. Well, how about Taylor Lorenz? I mean, now what's she going to say now that this is all... I think they're just going to deny, deny they're gonna say this is a political document they have a They have a unlimited capacity to be wrong. Yeah, what I've learned it's unlimited me for me

When it comes to being wrong, I hit my saturation point real fast If I'm wrong about two and a half things in a row, I get sat, I stop fast. They have an unlimited capacity to be wrong. You know, Taylor Lorenz can be wrong about everything for an indefinite period of time and still bring the attitude on the 166 things she's going to be wrong about. To me that's smacks of delusion, right? Delusion is a non-rational thought process from which you cannot be dissuaded. That's it. All right. Well, don't be delusional. Get with Shopify. It's all

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All right, um, you got a couple of fun things to play for you, all right, um We do we uh, i'll revisit my LAUSD tweets real quick. Just so you know, teachers, educators, you guys are educators, you're teachers, you're heroes and you're educators and you're teachers, so you should wanna educate yourself, right? How about you educate yourself that you're fucking wrong, all right?

Because the study just came out, it said what you did hurt kids, keeping schools locked down, because the study just came out. It said what you did hurt kids keeping schools locked down Hurt the kids our upper screen kyle's got no signal by the way It's it's not exactly a reach to to imagine that that would have been the case Not at all. Oh listen um Let's let me be clear less than anyone thinks I'm just simply blowing my horn here.

The conclusions that I arrived at with COVID was basically diet and exercise. I'm not Dr. Fitness over here. I just said a little less donuts and a few more push-ups. I think you're going gonna lose some weight. This is very basic sort of frontier thinking, you know? Locking kids out of school for two years may slow their growth just a little bit and have some downstream effects. And by the way, I'm looking around,

I live in a neighborhood that's lousy with 15-year-old kids and not one of them sick. So I'm gonna around. I live in a neighborhood that's lousy with 15 year old kids and not a one of them sick So I'm gonna take those two equations and put those two basic thoughts together and move forward None of this is exotic thinking. You know what I mean? I don't think standing on a plastic stamp in an elevator Elevator five feet away from someone who's eating a sandwich with their mask around their chin is going to prevent the spread of COVID. So I'm just going to be, I'm going to go out on a limb, but plus let's not forget my very early basic COVID thought.

Everyone I knew who got COVID said I got COVID and the second thing out of their mouth was what, Drew? I'm fine now? Nope. I don't know how I got it. I did everything right. Oh, I did everything right, yeah. Well, what does that mean? What does that mean?

Yeah, it means that nothing works. Yeah, you washed your hands, you distanced, you wore a mask, you did everything right, and you got COVID. So then nothing works. That's how it translates to me. Or you could say, I'll do everything right-er-er. But I don't know what that means.

Right, because you said you did everything right. You either did do everything right or you didn't did everything right. You either did do everything right or you didn't do everything right. If you did, you got sick, okay, well, we can stop doing everything right. Well, I never did anything right. I never got sick, so I don't know. What is the lesson here?

The lesson is- Another data point. Another data point, yeah. All right, well, we're trying to get our TV going, but we can switch to another subject if you like. Well, I, we haven't talked at all about the cabinet appointments and whatnot that Trump is coming in with. And I, and I specifically don't think we talked about the surgeon general on this show. Did we talk about that? No. So she's someone I know. I've known her for a long time. She's a, I'm not surprised he appointed her. She's a loyal soldier of his. Uh, she has other family members that have been in his life and other

positions and things, and she's a, she's good. You know, she's runs a urgent care center. She's, she's a qualified physician. And my point is, and everybody has an opinion about her. Oh, oh, oh my gosh. She's the worst, she's the best. All kinds of opinions. And my point is, please name for me, just name one surgeon general that you knew of

that a president-elect appointed rolling into their administration. Name one. And if there is one, why did you? No, did you know rolling into their administration. Name one. And if there is one, why did you, no, did you know rolling into the administration that he was going to be, you know, once he was in, you looked at him and had an opinion about who he is and stuff. My point is, do you know that Biden had a nurse in the role of surgeon general for a while? And did you have an opinion about that when he did that? No, no, let me explain the situation, the problem of the day we're living in, right?

Okay, you have people, you have the Surgeon General, you have the head of the NIH, you have the head of the CDC, right? And so if you said, and you really have to think about this because this is an issue, I am going to appoint people to head up agencies that I presumably don't have expertise in, you know, infectious diseases, certain monetary funds, and transportation, and things of that nature, right? I mean, this is kind of the problem we're living in and then we'll see how it pertains to Trump. But here was the problem with Biden. Biden would say, look, I'm not an expert in infectious diseases, so we'll have Rochelle

Walensky run the CDC and non-infectious disease, we disease, Fauci run this thing, and I'm not, we'll have Deborah Burke run this thing, and whatever. Right. And then we'll have a Surgeon General run this, you know, the Surgeon General. Now, it's all well and good, it's good conceptually. It's like saying, I do an automotive repair place, I'm not a transmission guy, but I got a transmission expert,

and he's gonna be in charge of diagnosing the transmission problems and fixing the transmissions. Okay, that's a good plan. Except for what if that guy only did what I wanted him to do and say what I wanted him to say? Well, now he's not an expert anymore. So when Rochelle Walensky, who heads the CDC, says we should open the schools and then the union leaders get to her and go,

no, no, don't say that. And then she comes back and goes, oh yeah, I changed my mind. Well, isn't she an expert anymore? Is the transmission guy an expert? When he checks out the transmission and goes, I don't think there's a problem here, I think we'll just add a little fluid, and then I go, Herb, come in my office. And then he goes, what's going on? And I go, that transmission needs a full rebuild. And he goes, you don't know anything about transmissions. I go, I'd like that transmission to have a full rebuild.

Do you understand, Herb? And he goes, I understand. And then he goes out and says to the couple, gonna need to pull that transmission, it's gonna need to rebuild. That's when we're in trouble. And that's what we just experienced. Every single head of every single thing that had to do with disease or CDC or NIH or COVID

or anything just took their marching orders from the Democratic Party and the school teachers union. So do we have experts anymore? I don't know. Let's go back to the scientists who R.J. Reynolds paid to go in front of Congress and explain that cigarettes were good for you. That's what we just had. So here's my old thing. Is it a two-way street? Yes, it is a two-way street, but We are going to have a border czar. His name is Tom Homan. He is going to stop people from coming over They had a border czar that wasn't interested in stopping people from coming over They're both going to do the bidding of the person who's in place

The question is is do you want people coming over the border or not? Right. All right. All right. But there is a, I just want to point out one last, you know, the point is if you never had opinions about previous surgeon general appointments, why, why now? Just examine yourself. Our last one was a, was a compromised posse who just said whatever the fuck. Look, can't how come there was not one expert in a position of powers, the NIH or CDC or the Surgeon General who got in front of a microphone and went this lockdown stuff is crazy. It's hurting kids. I don't see any reason anyone should get vaccinated when they're healthy and 14.

I don't like it. I'm the surgeon general. How come none of them said a word? Not because they're compromised. They're all compromised. They're compromised for sure. So why have them? Why have experts? They're just fucking figureheads. They're not doing anything. They're just saying what they're told to say. Well, get a fucking, I'll get a minor bird who can be, we could have had a better surgeon general as a fucking I'll get a minor bird who can be we could have had a better surgeon general It's a fucking minor bird because there is no expertise. It's gone. They're compromised

But two things go read what the surgeon general actually does none of you actually even know what the job is So go read that number one. Yes, and number two there is a poetic justice. There is a fifth act of a great action film that is represented by the NIH appointment, which is Dr. J. Bhattacharya, who was subjected to a quote, devastating take down, according to Dr. Fauci, and by Dr. Collins called a quote, fringe epidemiologist, is now their boss and in charge of the NIH.

Guy's a brilliant physician, epidemiologist from Stanford, decorated guy, wonderful human being. CNN, LA Times, you guys can fucking suck it. All right, I'm gonna be Saturday in Phoenix, Hilton, Phoenix, by the way, Tapatio Cliffs Resort, doing stand up there with Craig Shoemaker, a legend in the sport. And that's Saturday.

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