The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1950 Back to the Car-Digans with Joe Praino

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

Whilst Drew continues his stay in the concrete jungle, fellow comedian and Carolla Digital producer, Joe Praino joins the show today, and the guys delve right into his background & upbringing including his father's journey in the fashion industry, old New York, and Ralph Lauren's incredible passion for cars. Plus, they discuss how to achieve balance amongst the self-esteem movement, then Adam explains the lore of a father, and their direction for their son's future. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at the top of the homepage, AdamandDrDrew.com Please Support Our Sponsors: PublicRec.com For more with Joe Praino: PODCAST: Dirty Sports Podcast w/ Joe Praino and Andy Ruther TWITTER/X: @fixyourlife INSTAGRAM: @joepraino WEBSITE: joepraino.com

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We're going to get our own doctor's board certified decision. This specialist come from New York City. Yeah, buddy. That was a commercial. Remember that commercial from New York City? I remember those words. I can't remember what I was attached to. What was that? It was pace, picante sauce.

And the cowboys were pissed off that the other picante sauce was made in New York City. Joe Prano's in studio. Joe's a comedian, Joe's a producer. He works and produces ACS, the podcast. He's a standup, he's a producer, he works and produces ACS, the podcast, he's a stand-up, he's a writer. He's helped me quite a bit, worked on lots of stand-up throughout the last several months with the Dry Bar Show and then the Fox special coming up.

Joe's got live shows, certainly one, which is Bar Lubitsch, and that is in Los Angeles and that's December 27th and then the podcast the Dirty Sports Podcast also available I shouldn't say also but available on sub stack as well and Joe Prano it's praino.com is where you go. Joe's got a lot of thoughts. We've traveled a lot, so we got a lot of time to talk. And from New York originally, so jealous that Drew's in my hometown. Yeah. I feel like New York's a big city and LA's a big city. There's just kind of a lot to like about New York and not as much about Los Angeles.

You know, people sort of- I agree. Well, I think that, I think for me is like, people go, they miss the beach, but that's not really the city and that wasn't created. You know, that just is, you know? That's just sort of force majeure. It's just God created the beach, you know what I mean?

But the people kind of made Manhattan. They made the city. Yeah. And the beach here, I mean, the fact that the second biggest metropolis in our country sits on a beach, it's like, it's a nice thing. It's like, the beaches here aren't, you know, Santa Barbara or whatever, but the fact that you can be at the beach and be adjacent to this city is it's why I love Los Angeles, but I do miss New York greatly. Yeah, I, I, I do too in that I don't, I never lived there,

but I always love when I get back and I'm going soon, but I don't think Drew's going to be there. Yeah. I keep thinking about coming because I'm just getting back and I don't think I can pull it quite off, but I, you know, I was walking around fifth Avenue a couple days ago, yeah, day before yesterday, it was crowded as shit and I was at Rockefeller Center, I was taking the subway over there. And I thought, God, when I die, you're going to find my ghost just wandering around here. This is where I'm just going to hang out.

You know what I mean? It's just so exciting, so interesting. Well, Joe's background is interesting because I think his family is very interesting. I mean, your mom is, but especially your dad. Yeah, my dad, an Italian immigrant, came over when he was 15, moved to the Bronx, and then worked in the fashion business in New York for a long time,

and traveled the world doing fashion. He was the head of production for a lot of big designers. So went to Hong Kong and China and Italy and just a very well traveled man. Had a Mercedes gifted to him by Ralph Lauren. That's correct. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Worked for Ralph in the early 80s, late 70s, early 80s. That's a big Ralph Lauren time too. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I worked for Ralph in the early eighties, late seventies, early eighties. That's big Ralph Lauren time. Yeah, exactly. So I think he was, I think he got a little bonus for being there when the whole thing took off. And that was in the form of a Mercedes convertible. People do not appreciate it. But yep. Oh, nice. I remember things. Everyone listen to him. And so there's an interesting piece of history, not just the immigrant piece, but the Shmata piece that the textile and clothing industry kind of built New York for a period of time.

Yeah. Yeah. And it was really, it was an interesting time to grow up. And that was an interesting world to be a part of even as a, you know, as a kid, being adjacent to all of that stuff was really cool. Weird little historical piece. You know, we have fire escapes because of the textile industry. Oh yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Because there was a famous fire in a building that's now owned by NYU It's called the triangle shirtless company a bunch of women got stuck in there and died and that was when they Developed the idea of the fire escapes

I had heard that they chained the doors because too many were heading out or using the bathroom or something But that may have been lore. Did you hear that drew? I don't know that part They chained the doors because too many were heading out or using the bathroom or something, but that may have been lore. Has you heard that, Drew? I don't know that part, but it wouldn't be that surprising. There was a famous, you can look it up, Emmy. I think there's a famous fire in New York where, back when bosses got to do what bosses get to do

or should get to do, but they don't anymore, but they just go, listen bitches, I don't want you leaving your sewing machine and too many people are walking out in the lobby and hanging out, so I'm just going to chain the door. That's where you got the idea for the Corolla One Studio chains. That's right. Yeah. Triangle shirt, March 1911 is when it took place Deadliest triangle show ways. Yeah, sorry deadliest, uh industrial disaster in us history of the of the city

Um that least in us. Yeah, the door chaining thing. Is that hypocraphil or did that happen? Apocryphal, I know you like the actors. Sorry apocryphal not the hypocraphil like hypocrisy Apocryphal, I know you like the actors. Apocryphal, not hip-pocryphal, like hypocrisy. Apocryphal. So, you know, it's funny you brought up Ralph Lauren, but it is interesting. So Ralph Lauren loves cars. So that's part of the reason he gave Joe's dad a 280 Mercedes. His passion is cars and he has a car collection that rivals, isn't rivaled by really any. If you said to me, would you rather have Jay Leno's collection or Ralph

Loren's collection, I'd say I'll take Ralph Loren's collection. Wow. Wow. I didn't know that. Interesting. Well, Jay Leno has 175 cars. I knew that. I knew that I knew that average worth of the vehicle is 375 thousand dollars, maybe it's five hundred thousand dollars I'd be a better no, I mean the average worth it could be like a hundred and fifty thousand dollars But he's got a hundred and seventy five thousand cars right Ralph Lauren has

14 cars average value twenty $26 million a unit. Wow, interesting. That's what I'm talking about. Like he's real top shelf, pontoon, 50s Ferrari. Like he has cars that are $70 million, but there's just one of them. So practically, you know, 3,000 square foot warehouse, you could put all of Ralph Lauren's cars

and it'd still be worth $700 million. That stock Mercedes doesn't seem like that nice of a gift anymore. No, but going up in value, going up in value. But here's the thing- Gone now, sadly. I let them. Here's the thing I wanted to complain about.

And then we'll get back to Jeff. Ralph Lauren has a incredible passion for cars, right? And there was a documentary made about him a year and a half or two years ago. I love all documentaries. You listening, Drew? Okay. Drew's reading.

You love all documentaries. Yeah, well anyone can pair it back. We've said it a million times. Said it a million times. Well anyone can pair it back. We've said a million times Said a million times you can always pay Everyone who died on a battlefield Said what the guy said to him? Yo, are you okay Chuck? I'm okay

Then they died to you. You can pair it back the last seven words anyone says to you in any condition I don't care how fucking drunk you are. I don't care how fucking drunk you are, I don't care how high you are, I don't care how many, if the worst motorcycle accident in the world, you will be able to say the last six words the person says before you die. So that's true. Every woman I've ever been with who's not listening can say the last five words I've said while they're not listening. Now I'm just imagining Drew's last moments before his ghost starts walking Fifth Avenue. He's going to go, I know you love all documentaries. Adam loves documentaries. They did a Ralph Lauren doc. Ralph Lauren loved his cars. The homos who made the doc do not like cars. So there was a full 22 seconds devoted to, oh yeah, and he had some cars.

Let's get back to the cardigans. You know what I mean? Let's not, and then, so because the guys from Hollywood don't care about cars, and when they're making a dock, even though the guy you're making a dock about is incredibly passionate about cars, you don't give a fuck about cars, and that's the way people don't give a fuck about cars roll. They go, I don't give a fuck about cars, so let's not give it any time. Paul Newman, there's like a five-part documentary on Paul Newman. Paul Newman's entire second half adult life was about car racing. That's all he wanted to do, that's all he talked about. That's all he did They gave it nine seconds because those homos don't give a fuck and that they have a more time like bow now

When he was doing our town at the regional Playhouse theater, they have 45 minutes to that They give 10. Oh and he liked a race. Anyway back to our town. I Fucking hate this town because you're not allowed to do that. You're making a documentary about someone whose passion was this So sorry if you don't like it homos, you got to cover it The factory owners routinely locked the doors to the stairwells and exits to prevent workers from taking breaks or stealing when the fire broke out many of the workers were trapped and Jumped to that so I guess I'm right. They did lock the right doors. All right, sorry back to Jeff So Joe grows up in New York Joe Joe and I had a chance to drive from Eugene, Oregon

To well, I don't even know where we ended up. We went through Portland. We were in Snoqualmie. Snoqualmie. Washington. Wow. Yeah. We had a long car ride and we talked the whole time. And I- Wait a minute, slow down. You talked? We talked.

And- We talked? He spoke and we compared and contrasted our two fathers. Yeah. And I realized, but it's, it's. It's amazing. Ooh. It sounds hysterical to me. Ooh.

It was, it was amazing. You know Adam's father, this is a funny comparison. It was amazing because the way you described your father, you literally, everything you said your dad wasn't about as an example was my dad. He never owned a sports car. He never traveled to another country. He didn't care about wine.

He didn't want to, he didn't have a nice watch. He didn't have a pen. So hold on. So let's dig in here a little bit. Joe, how's your self-esteem? I think it's great. Yeah. That's a problem.

Adam can't have, Adam? I think it's great. Yeah, I'm a problem. Yeah, Adam can't have the can't have that I can't cannot abide. Yeah Self-esteem but he's had enough Adversity, I always say my daddy issues are I have no daddy issues It's you know, you know, there's something that comes along with you know You're dad telling you you can do whatever you want in life and you believe him then all of a sudden you're a troubled dreamer. What the fuck must that be like? Like an Martian just landed in your studio.

Well you know let's try to figure out that sort of encouragement versus smoke being blown up your tuchus you know what I mean? Because, so I got nothing, which was just nobody listened, nobody cared, nobody, with a slightly negative sort of hue to it. So it probably slowed my roll a little bit, because, you know, people'd say like, you know, oh, I got a job for you, you can just come over here and shovel shit for seven bucks an hour and I'd go, okay.

Like, why not, why wouldn't I do it? Right. And then there's another one where, you know, it's like the black mama names her daughter Queen of Sheba and then tells her never to listen to anyone ever, don't let anyone ever tell you what to do, and that's a road to failure as well,

because you have to listen to people, you have to internalize on occasion, whatever. I think the balance is, you can do what you want to do, but here's the caveat, you have to have the talent to do it, and you also have to have the consistency and the drive and the work ethic. And that's the balance, right? Some people get it too.

I think with the self-esteem movement, we forgot the balance. We just told everyone they could do whatever they wanted to do because they were queens and it didn't work out. And then you have a bunch of frustrated campers. I'm remembering now as we talk about this, I did get one serious clear note of encouragement from my dad. And that was if you want to do something you can figure it out. Like I remember I was, I had this weird, when I was like four years old, this fantasy that we could, I wish we could take our house with us on travel or whatever, wherever we

were going. And he goes, well, it's just, you just sit and you figure that out and you'll figure out how to do that. And it always seemed phantasmagoric. But I, but the idea that you can just through just hard work and grit and intellect, you can figure shit out. And it's interesting, as I, later in life, I thought, oh, I kind of did figure it out. What I did was I set up an apartment in New York that is home. And so I could travel to home from another home, which was mind-boggling to me, you know,

the way I grew up and stuff, but it was interesting that I eventually did figure it out. Yeah, well, but see, Drew, your dad may have had his foibles and faults in your mom as well, but you were always on a trajectory. Yes. You were heading toward being a physician. Yes. Right.

Which is, it comes with some baggage and some negatives, but it removes a lot of question marks that are the, what causes the anxiety. I've always felt the question marks cause the anxiety. But Joe, did your dad have a direction for you You know, there's four of us kids I was the second of the first three which was the first three boys first three boys I was second and then we had a I had a baby sister

So there was like there was a lot of direction for everybody in that there wasn't you know I think I had some baby sister. So there was like, there was a lot of direction for everybody in that. There was, you know, I think I had some middle child syndrome. I wanted to be an athlete. Second of the first three is a wild way to describe it. Yeah. Well, it was like, there was like the three of us, the Prano boys are known like a wild west gang where I'm from. Like you don't, you know, don't mess with the Prano boys. But then there was a sister that came along at the end, but-

Spoiled the whole thing. Yeah, spoiled the whole thing. I wanted to be an athlete and he didn't care about that stuff at all. Light in the loafers, fashion man, driving around his little Mercedes convertible, didn't know what wanting to be center fielder for the Mets even meant. Gosh, his dad was gay. This is awesome. The story's getting better all the time. Yeah. Well, he was a dandy. That doesn't mean you're gay. He also, like, it was funny because he loved working.

He was a carpenter and did woodwork and all that, but also then painted the shit he sawed with flowers and, you know, so he was very- We're back. He was a Renaissance man, but didn't care for sports at all. And so that was weird for me. I always wanted, hey dad, I hit, I had two doubles and a home run in the baseball game. And he goes, you don't know how to run. Oh really?

You know, why? Oh, he did get a little negative. Could have been triples, but you don't run well. And it's like, was he watching you hit those doubles? Yeah, but he didn't even, you know, he's an Italian immigrant, you know, unless I scored a goal in the World Cup, it didn't matter. Right, right. And so there was that, but you know, and then he was like, go to business school.

But then when I didn't do any of that stuff, when he was still working in New York City and I was a young comic, he would stay after work, come to shows, buy tickets, sit alone, have a glass of wine, watch terrible borderline open mic stand-up comedy. Very supportive. So there was a path. Supportive in that he would have commentary. Yeah.

When I first started, I was in my early 20s, I'm talking about, I was smoking pot the other day. He's like, I don't really like that you talk about drugs, but you did really well. You know, um, it was very proud to say, Hey, my son, he's doing standup comedy. You should go check him out sometime. So he had a direction. He had a path, but he was always supportive of whatever I chose to do. You know, he would have loved if I had gone to business school, but I didn't. He wasn't heartbroken. All right. Let me hit a quick spot here and we'll get back to the story of Joe.

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he didn't even go to her daughter's volleyball game that time. It's like, I was working out of town, you know what I mean? And I listen, I don't need to be the number one dad, even though I do have the mug, I don't need to be the number one dad in the world. I will accept top 3%. How about that? How about that? Let's just work out the range.

At the bottom, they're sexually abusive, physically abusive, unemployed, ne'er do well, who abandons the family, okay? At the top, there was a Bill Cosby as we knew him from the sitcom. Okay, I am much closer to Bill Cosby than I am of the ne'er-do-well guy who moved to fucking Florida and married his secretary. All right, I've never claimed

I was in the rarefied strat of the 1%. I'm clearly top 5%. And if you'd like to compare me to anybody, including my own dad, I eclipse them in every department. So I need to be consistent and I need to be encouraging and I need to be considerate and a little bit fun and underwrite everything of course, which no one cares about. But I do not need to be number one. And I've said that a million times and I don't know why it's like that's not really people don't really wrap their mind around that. But I feel it's women trying to make a fucking case all the time.

Like I would get that from my ex, like they'd go, so and so's dad was at the volleyball game. I was like, I did four shows in Timonium outside of Baltimore. That's what I did. But then they paid me and then I brought the money home and then you live in a mansion. And I think kids understand that.

Kids understand that. My dad, as supportive as he was, traveled a lot. Had to go to factories all over the world. So he'd be gone to Italy and Hong Kong for weeks at a time. Right. You wouldn't see him for three weeks out of the month because he was traveling. And we were just like, he's working. Yes. And he'd come back with a gift of some sort of technological advancement from Hong Kong

and we'd be like, he brought back a Walkman. The kids won't have this for two years. I've said it a million times. Kids totally understand the dad worked and traveled. Yeah. Yeah. We make a big deal of it as a society, but it's not. I, all right, sorry, Drew, for cutting you off,

but let me say this. The lore of the death. Okay, you could have a dad that you've never met because he abandoned your family and moved away and started a new family and has never attempted to reach out and contact you as a child. Yeah. That's one version of I've never met my dad. The other version of never met my dad is right after I was born, his squadron was called into Vietnam and he died over megalene and F4 fighting for this country. Right.

Two same version. I've never met my dad. What lives in the head of the kid whose dad was shot down in the F4 is pride. What lives in the heart of the kid whose dad started a new family and never reached out is hurt and misery. So what is it? That's my point. You know your dad's away working and supporting your family. You don't need him to read you a bedtime story every night. Kids get it easily. Women, not as much, but kids get it. Thank you.

I think I remember mentioning this to you once before, that the end of war and peace is the thought process of this one soldier who died in battle's son thinking about the great heroic efforts of his father, whom he really never knew. And it's quite a flight of fancy and romantic sort of thoughts, but it was satiating for a young male, you know what I mean? It wouldn't be quite satisfactory in terms of modeling your own life. But now Joe, in spite of having the excellent dad, has had some issues, right, with your girlfriends? Yeah. Or a girlfriend in particular?

I've had my fair share of relationship issues over the years and I think that- What's going on there? I think that's also probably from my parents. They loved each other. I don't, I'm not sure they liked each other. My dad was way for weeks at a time. My mom was ecstatic about it. You know, let's, let's hit the casino. This is a, your dad's on a need to know basis. He doesn't need to know.

You know, so they- So secrets, first of all secrets. Yeah, secrets. I mean, nothing, you know, crazy, but at the same time, I always, the one thing- Gambling's not crazy? Well, you know, she's a, she's a slot player. You know, she's not going- I love the way people rationalize this stuff. What? She likes the slots. She's like, yeah, she's a slot player. You know, she's not going to blow the... I love the way people rationalize this stuff.

What? She liked the slot. She's like, she's a gambler for sure. She has a gambling. Well, no, listen, gambling is about financial impact. So if it's not financially impactful, then who cares, Drew? Well, no, I mean, she gambles. And she's, to this day, she gambles, you know, but I guess... The point is these secrets, secrets lead to more secrets, you know what I mean, she gambles, and to this day, she gambles. But I guess-

The point is, these secrets, secrets lead to more secrets. You know what I mean? There's stuff going on. I am sorry, but not necessarily. Not necessarily. If there's a thing where the wife says to the husband, no more Philly cheesesteaks for you. We got your cholesterol thing, and the guy's gonna sneak out and no more Philly cheesesteaks for you. We got your cholesterol thing.

And the guy's going to sneak out and eat his Philly cheesesteak. But it doesn't lead to cheating. It just, he wants his cheesesteak. I think what I took away from it is in relationships, I don't really have patience. I looked at my parents and I was like, they raised a good family. They were great to us, everything. But like, I don't want somebody, I don't want to spend the rest of my life with somebody I'm just putting up with for the sake of my children or whatever.

So I just never, 45 years old, just engaged for the first time, just never settled. I just thought, this isn't the life I want. And that, sometimes you stay in a're trying to, you stay in a relationship trying to see if this person, if you can figure it out, maybe this person is right. And when a woman feels like you're not going to, you know, you're not going to pop the question, you're not making her a married woman, you're not going to give her like, the wheels can often come off, especially if you're dating women. That's true. A lot of men are in denial about that, or they don't realize it. Especially if you're dating a woman who's in her 30s maybe, say there's a biological

clock that's ticking, they feel like a rug's been pulled out for... They get angry. Yeah. And that certainly manifested in one of my relationships in violence. Yeah. Well, I mean, in violence. What happened? She became physically abusive and on the regular. I mean in violence. Yeah, what happened? she

Became physically abusive and on the regular on the regular. Yeah, Joe's a large But not have overweight but a stout well-built large man athletic. Yeah, so that seems strange Well women I found in that relationship. I found it was like well You would never do anything to me because I'm a woman, you I found in that relationship, I found it was like, well, you would never do anything to me because I'm a woman, you know, and, and that, that was always really scary. I would, I would cut and run when it got violent because I was like, if I'm here and the neighbors here, you know, if I move you away from me and you're a 90 pound woman who also doesn't

eat any protein, you're going to have a bruise on your arm and I'm gonna be arrested. Well, we have to believe all women. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, listen. Wow. There is an issue, and now I'm wondering, Drew, if the chickens are coming home to roost, and I've said it many times, women don't learn to regulate, men learn to regulate. Yes. And so when women fight in the airport, they don't really understand what they're doing because they don't know the self regulation my entire childhood was wrestling my friends with a lot of And my friends Ray and Chris, you know, dr

Drew knows these guys these were animals. And they didn't wrestle. When they won at it, it wasn't seven tenths, it was nine and a half tenths. It was just that last.5% that separated from a street fight. It was literally everything but a balled up fist to the face, but everything else was sort of on the table, you know, and there was lots of Regulation a lot of you know, how far can we take this before there's real injuries? You know and I'm wondering if our toxic masculinity

Gillette commercials telling seven-year-olds no longer to wrestle on a lawn at a barbecue I'm wondering if men have lost the self-regulation Because we're separating them from wrestling as seven-year-olds. It's been 20 years They're not regulating anymore either and so you see them kind of the cop You know says step back and they start like flailing at them Like they've men have lost their self of self regulation. All mammals males and adolescents engage in rough and tumble play. Right but Gillette says no no that's not good when bear cubs do it. And maybe it's a you know a topic for

the next episode or something but I have an older brother that I've told you about that has... I was saving that. He checks a lot of boxes, you know, of people that grow up to be serial killers and, you know, hurting small animals and violence and all that. Oh, next show. So I was never in fear of my 95 pound axe when my brother had made me see death. Yes. Oh, Jesus Christ.

You don't rough and tumble with my brother. You just go, is he going to grab a weapon at some point? That's so funny, because I grew up with my sort of maniac, behemoth, freak of nature friends, Chris and Ray, and I don't have fear of people. That guy at the bar, bar man he's invaded your personal space it's like oh that's not anything compared to what I've been through. All right well we'll pick that up in the next episode with Joe Prano. I'm gonna be in Phoenix this Saturday at the

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