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Episode Date: December 12, 2024Dr. Drew starts off today's show where they left off on the murder of Brian Thompson, CEO for United Healthcare, trying to figure out conflict going on in people's minds on both sides since the incide...nt, and Adam dives into the "unnecessary calories" in people's responses. They also take a call from a widow seeking guidance on finding herself and how to move on since her husband's passing. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at the top of the homepage, AdamandDrew.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Shopify.com/adamanddrew
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we got a little moment.
Okay.
Maybe I could have verbally prepped you before the show.
Okay, fair enough.
So we're gonna go right into it, but yeah,
I think they're trying to get caller Sarah.
All right.
On the phone.
And in the meantime, you know,
we talked a little bit about the assassination
of that healthcare provider, the healthcare organization. And it's weird to me,
you know, you were talking about how the moral compass seems to be sort of weirdly like bent,
you know, where it's like turning back on itself. It's so weirdly bent. This is the thing that I'm
having a problem, it's a different topic than
what you were talking about last time we brought it up it just occurred to me that people have this
weird irrational certitude i've brought it up before but it pertains particular things in the
public like oh yeah that guy's making terrible decisions restricting health care you you did you
know who he was a week ago have you. Have you heard his name before? No.
Do you know what UnitedHealthcare policies are for approval and, you know, not approving
certain disease states?
Do you have any idea about anything?
No.
And yet you have massive opinion about this.
Yes.
Even in so far as siding with a murderer.
Oh, look, they had very strong opinions about ivermectin.
They don't know anything.
And they need to be ridiculed.
But what is that?
Where did we, how did we get here?
It's narcissism and also a lack of expertise
in any other field.
And so it's overcompensated for, you know.
And also the information that's pouring down
from social media and things.
You know, they're confusing information and expertise.
Different.
Well, they want to be experts,
but they don't have the training or the discipline
to be experts, so they grab some little snippets
and then they spit it out.
And then they usually accuse the other side
of watching some tinfoil hat guy on X and getting all their
misinformation except for they're the ones who are wrong about
Ivermectin. It's Dunning-Kruger. It's that Dunning-Kruger phenomenon. It's you know a little bit people that know a lot have rational
uncertainty. They're uncertain about everything and because they know a lot. Anyway. Sarah. Sarah's on. Sarah.
Hi, my husband died four years ago and while grieving his loss I've made good use
of my time keeping busy doing things that I enjoy but I don't feel settled or
like myself. I feel like a completely different person. How old are you? 41.
Oh, wow.
So he died in his 30s?
He was actually quite a bit older.
He was 60 when he died.
Oh, that's interesting.
They would have to be the same age.
Well, I'm just curious.
And what did he die of?
Early onset Alzheimer's.
Ew.
I had that happen in front of mine.
It's brutal.
Yeah.
It's horrible. Because you have to live with it for quite some time
Yeah before that comes in right? Yes. It's how long was he sick for?
He was sick about four years. It was a gradual process to even getting the diagnosis. There's a lot of
At the beginning it's hard to tell what's going on.
It's just all you know is you have a neuro degeneration
and then trying to make a diagnosis is impossible.
Yeah, so you don't feel like yourself.
No.
That's interesting.
You know, feeling like yourself, I've never really thought of.
I've never not felt like myself.
I've felt bad or good or indifferent but not not like myself
Yeah, interesting way to describe it. How long you married for?
About 12 years 10 years you say 12 12 years. I
Mean and we together only 12 years all told
Yeah, they got married. No, we were together a bit longer than that
We're friends for a while and then we got together a few years after that. Because when somebody says,
oh, I lost somebody, I am no longer myself,
you think about a fused and meshed relationship
where you lose yourself in the relationship so much
that when you lose the person, you feel not yourself.
Yeah, but 12 years is not enough for you
of a marriage for that?
It is, it's enough, but it's not 30 years when you well, I know but she's 30 she's 41
So, you know, she's not gonna get it. I'm but I'm trying and yes, they always meet before
Andrew are you trying to do a screwy math? No, no, I was trying to there's always some dating and some hanging out and whatever
So they've known each other for she's been with this guy for 15 years and that's half that half
It's it's more than 33 percent of her life
But I'm zeroing out what you were zeroing in on why she describe it as I'm not myself. I
My argument or my guess would be that Sarah didn't have a strong
Foundation of I'm this, you know, I'm a defense attorney and I work long hours and I'm very passionate about sailing or
something. She may have been a person that was around and I don't know what it
what is your profession Sarah and what are your hobbies or loves? loves. Well, I work in the auto business and I had a really labor-intensive job, like,
at consuming, so I was in my job a lot when he got sick, and so I had to resign for my
job to take care of him. Yeah, so her job is to take care of him and now him is gone,
so that's... No, I get it. That's what what I we're building the same case from different angles
so yeah yeah so it's difficult but you're young and you know he was older enough so
that he had some life yeah you know which is is nice. It wasn't a super tragedy. It wasn't 30, 39 kind of thing.
So now it's just about you and dating again
and friends and circle and family and work.
And you know, I'm a big fan of being busy.
Oh yeah.
Especially when you're thinking a little too much.
Like really, sometimes it's literally just gardening
But but it's just being engaged like volunteering being out being outdoors like really just
making
Not having your mind or your hands be idle because that's when the devil makes time
I agree with you particular terms of managing your mood. However, this
all smacks of unresolved grief and with the older partner. Makes me wonder if your dad
died when you were young also? No, my dad passed away in 2018. Or did you have other
grief reactions that you didn't kind of get all the way through?
So this is the only time you've had to deal with loss?
My mom passed away in 2006. Her house caught on fire and she died of smoke inhalation.
Wow, pretty tragic.
Well, that's what I'm sort of aiming at.
Here's what I'm gonna say.
I do not think there's a strong enough
Identity that Sarah had outside of this relationship
And and I think everything I think we're gonna have to start forging that identity and
That's gonna be about
career
And it's not gonna be necessarily just about work, it's
gonna be about career.
Like is there a career you're looking at versus I work?
And it's gonna be about lots of relationships and friends and new dating and all that stuff
and maybe in the face of an energy loss because of a you know mild
depression and that kind of stuff but that's what it's gonna take I agree but
if you can't do it then unresolved grief it does require professional management
sometimes okay all right like that one potato to potato that I always know what that is. Oh
Angry yeah, go back maybe I don't know Sarah. Are you angry man?
I'm sorry. I don't know. Maybe it's the line. Are you angry at men? Are you angry? Oh
I went through some anger.. What kind of anger?
Like when I was in the beginning of the grief I was really lonely and a lot of
the men that reached out were like married and they would try to like say
things to me to like kind of emotionally get me attached to them. Hmm. But they
weren't available so. I'm talking about older anger like dad anger
No, no good with that. No. Yeah. My dad was a Christian. He's a musician and a really loving man. Hmm
Christian musician
There's such a thing. I like it and
And mom was good
Yeah, my mom was an artist Wow
All right. All right. I think you'll be fine then
some people speak in a I
Don't know halting way. There's a cadence part that always kind of
Does it I I don't know why it is.
I don't know, there's something unique about me,
but this always drives me nuts.
And I tell my assistant not to do it all the time,
but he still does it.
So I just go, is the movie, is the show,
is it eight tonight?
And they go, the show is at eight.
And I go, just say yes.
Because I start spinning a little
because I think it's something.
I think it's another answer, if you repeat.
But it's the same thing that people do
where you go, it's Andrea, right?
And they go, it's Andrea. And I And they go, it's Andrea. Okay, that's what I, but you
need to say just yes, because if you say it again, I'll think I said it wrong.
Yes. And I told Kyle to say hi, because that's
the Japanese do. And it's good. They say hi. Oh, that's right. You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And it's super easy.
Is your mic hot, Kyle?
Watch how fucking easy this is.
Watch.
Wait, is your mic hot, Kyle?
Hi.
Hi.
Okay.
Is the show at eight o'clock tonight?
Hi.
Right.
Because when he goes, when they say, and everyone does this, they go, is this show at eight?
They go, the show is it. And eight they go the show is it and i
go fuck is it seven yeah right or nine yeah i told my i told my friends show up at eight yeah yeah
unnecessary calories well because it it it implies that it's not the same answer yeah
the same answer. Yeah.
Hi.
But, all right, is it Andrea?
Hi.
See?
Versus it's Andrea.
Which always makes me think, oh I got it wrong.
There are a couple things we do need to bring back.
I think that's passive aggressive though
when people do that.
Oh for sure.
No, but not when Kyle says the same thing back to me
slower and makes me confused for
a second. The Andrea thing is the passive aggressive. That's passive aggressive. Yeah,
and it's a little what we take what we clue into with callers when they take a one potato,
two potato before they answer a question. That's also passive aggressive. That's why you started
talking about that. Uh-huh. Okay. Um, hi. Hi. All right. We need to also bring back Haza.
I mean, really.
Haza is good.
Haza, Hai and Haza are things that would probably take,
add to people's lives by years.
The two of them.
Because they communicate so effectively,
so efficiently.
I wonder if the
Japanese as a culture
do less arguing.
Well.
Cause they do.
They're very compliant.
They do like a lot of hey.
Yeah a lot of compliance.
And the person's just talking
and they're kind of rolling along
and the person's going hey, hey.
So respect, compliance, you know.
I feel like most of my adult life I've went,
here's what I think about this and here's,
and then someone goes, you know,
people don't always say the same.
And also it's a disease for some people,
they don't know they have it,
where they start saying the opposite of what you're saying
no matter what you say, which is.
What you surround yourself with, strangely enough.
I do, but it's a strange way to go through life like i'm just gonna negate
what the other person is saying when they say it all the time yeah just weird
wiring right that's your work comes from well in
relation to the japanese culture it makes me wonder is our you know value of
individualism somehow creating some of this, right?
There, they are very communal in their thinking.
Yep.
Let me explain something to everyone.
You cannot forge any creativity
You cannot forge any creativity or intelligence by disagreeing with what I'm saying. You need to have your own thoughts and your own ideas.
Simply disagreeing doesn't mean you now have some sort of expertise or you know more, which
is a problem. Well, you know what is interesting in that statement
is that having your own opinion sort of implies
not only that, but, right?
That's sort of how you'd express that.
You wouldn't say no.
You'd say, yeah, Adam, not only that,
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all right we got true over there hey hey and ace man over here what else you
thinking about you know yeah I'm looking at this insurance plan that everyone was
all upset about was planning to halt time limits on coverage for anesthesia. They were planning to put time limits on
anesthesia during surgery and the comedy is they announced that the day after the
United Health Care attack and they went back on it and said they're gonna
halt that plan. How could you do that? Well that's the point. I don't think
people even know. I don't understand what're doing, so I don't have an opinion about it.
Okay, let me explain where I'm at with everything.
Height.
Half a height.
Okay, when there is a sort of individual crazy idea,
you know, and they go, this guy took a weather balloon
and he tied it to a lawn chair
and he floated up over the stadium, you know.
I go, oh, that sounds crazy.
But when they do it on a big kind of corporate,
you know, sort of thing, it's sort of like
when politicians go, you elect these guys and they're gonna wanna push
grandma off a cliff.
You know, I go, okay, nobody's ever said that,
no one's ever gonna do it, it's never gonna happen,
that there's nobody running on them,
gonna push your grandmother off a cliff, you know.
It's the same thing of, you know,
he said he had women in binders.
Okay, dumb shit. I don't even
know who you are, what you're saying. You don't know what you're saying. You're fucking
bought and paid for idiot and you've lost all respect for you now.
I think we've moved through that phase.
No, no, we have not moved through that phase because he said he's gonna be a dictator day
one.
But we've moved through that.
We didn't move through it. They're still working on.
Are they? Jesus.
I still see him. He said he was gonna be dick there,
he said he was gonna lock up people,
look at everything, he said, okay, okay.
Good people on both sides, okay.
Nobody said that, you don't know
what the fuck you're talking about,
and I don't need to have even heard him say it or not say it,
I already know you're full of shit. So when they start when they start getting into these things where it's like area you're gonna be in the middle of heart surgery
And they're gonna cut off your anesthesia in the middle of the okay. It's never gonna happen. It's not gonna happen
It can't happen exactly so fucking get your brain right. Would you retard? Yeah, it's not gonna happen
There's no surgeon who's gonna go into a surgery thinking that anesthesia's gonna be cut off
in the middle of it.
It's not gonna happen.
So get your fucking head right, retard.
Nobody ever said women in binders are pushing someone
off a cliff or dictator day one.
Just get your fucking retarded head right
because you're carrying it everywhere you go and every thought you
have is fucked up.
The most they are saying is that after let's say you have a four hour surgery plan that
goes five hours, you will be responsible for the extra hour of anesthesia when the price
comes to you.
Now that makes sense to me, but not the part where they'll cut you off.
No.
Okay.
And most all of the retarded stuff
is this is what he wants to do.
He's rounded up kids, he's put them in cages.
I know, but you have to be.
Dumb and hysteria, both.
You have to be, it's chick thing to buy into it,
you have to be fucking stupid,
and that's where we're at.
Dumb and hysterical, both.
Right.
Speaking of which.
So let's not be that way, people.
I have a story here that says.
Right.
Right, so let's not be that way. I have a story here that says right that the the those
High school kids were chasing those dolphins in the open sea. Yeah
They were tormenting them they were annoying them. Yeah, remember that time I dove in the ocean
I swam up on that dolphin and tackled him annoyed it. Yeah
Sometimes when i'm in malibu I'll see a pod of dolphins going by
and I'll be like, I'm gonna get in there
and fuck their shit up. Get your friends.
Get your friends together.
I'm gonna annoy the shit out of those dolphins.
Yeah, it's impossible.
So I'm not listening.
Do you think this is more these days than in the past?
Is it's, you know, again, social media and stuff
making us weird or psychological?
I have a thought, you ready to think?
I think it's chick think are you ready?
most of my
Thinking
Comes down to almost a mechanical form of thinking you know and when people explain
Stuff like he did this and then that they're gonna make a car
Were you they're gonna have you go over 60 miles an hour and it's gonna
eject you out of the car.
I go, no, that doesn't exist.
They're not gonna do it.
You don't know that.
That's what they said.
So chicks have trouble with mechanical thinking.
So they literally picture high schoolers in the bay annoying dolphins by swimming up on them and the dolphins
not being able to get away.
Yes.
So it's a mechanical thing.
What's wrong with me that I buy it when I hear the story?
I don't buy anything that is like, there was a story 20 years ago, remember?
Richard Simmons assaults ex-pro wrestler
at the Arizona airport.
And I was like, he didn't assault him.
It's fine.
The guy's suing him.
Well, I didn't say he wasn't suing him.
It's like Richard Simmons did not assault
and take down a former professional wrestler
and cage fighter.
You know? He did, he's suing. You know, it's like, no, I didn't. take down a former professional wrestler and cage fighter.
He did, he's suing.
It's like, whatever you're saying it was, that wasn't it.
Those swimmers, those high schoolers,
they were harassing the adult, no they weren't.
That story's out there, no they're not.
Well that's the part, that's the part that gets me,
is I'm reading it and I have sort of an open, accepting point of view
when I'm consuming news.
Like, oh, look at this, huh, I guess it happened.
I don't have, I have to put a weird screen
on everything now where I go, ah, everything, everything.
So there's a mechanical component to a lot of this stuff.
It's the wrestler who's twice the size of Richard Simmons,
it's the school kids who swim at about two miles an hour
and the dolphin swims at 30 miles an hour,
and there's a mechanical component to it.
Oftentimes, and if you just,
if you're sort of versed in the mechanical side of it, then
you'll kind of get it.
Physical, the physical part.
Yeah, almost the physical part of it, right.
But if you don't have an attachment, and I've noticed that women, they don't live in the
realm, you know, the sort of physical mechanical realm, you know, so they...
We should have questioned our caller Sarah,
who worked in the automotive industry,
see if she had a more mechanical take on things.
Probably did, if you are, you know,
there's women who weld and do upholstery
and stuff like that, and probably live
in a more sort of tactile world.
By the way, men who don't live anywhere in that world
don't know what the fuck's going on either.
They're real gullible. They're soft, and they're squishy, By the way, men who don't live anywhere in that world don't know what the fuck's going on either.
They're real gullible. They're soft and they're squishy and they're gullible.
They just live in some sort of air-conditioned cubicle screen world and they don't really know anything of that.
I'm guilty. I'm proud of it. I have to be careful.
Yeah, you do because you need to be in the kind of build- barn, barn raising kind of world, you know?
And or just being in the back of a restaurant
like chopping shit all day, you know?
On your feet kind of stuff.
Doing something physical.
Yeah, in the military, whatever.
They don't have the same thoughts
as the sort of squishy thoughts, you know?
And that's where they get kind of rotted. Like you see it in
Congress a lot. See a lot of the women there just sort of having crazy thoughts, you know?
Because they're not, you know, if they were kind of building the railroad all day, they
just wouldn't. And it happens to men too, of course.
Of course. But we're thinking about the amount of narcissism there is today, which I think
is the bigger factor
It's the two together, isn't it?
You should be questioning yourself
All the time. Yeah, but if we're right and that's when you have the narcissism, you don't do that
Right. And so this stuff takes hold can
Spiral you have the narcissism where you're not questioning yourself
and then your brain has gone soft
because you live in a virtual world,
not a sort of mechanical world.
And you don't, you know, a lot of the mechanical world
is a lot of how's this gonna work?
How's this gonna work?
Or how could this work kind of thing?
Well, how are we gonna make this work? Right. And how's it? But I'm thinking in terms of
somebody proposes something, you go, how could that work? Right. Yeah, yeah. Well, which is a
lot of what the news is. Well, yes. The thing says we're gonna cut off the anesthesia in the
middle of the surgery. I've never read the article. I'm not a doctor and I'm not an anesthesiologist,
and I just go, that's bullshit.
It's never gonna happen, it's not happening.
Here's the other reason.
There'd be so much liability for the surgeon,
for the hospital, and for the healthcare provider
that they would be sued out of business.
That's not gonna happen, and no surgeon's ever gonna do that,
and no anesthesiologist
is gonna do it. That's what I say about aspartame. I'm like if that stuff is bad why are there not a
million lawsuits about this? Laura's lined up for everything. Yes, yes. And that stuff is ubiquitous.
Things are ubiquitous. I, you know, we're worried a lot about stuff in the food supply now. Thank you
to RFK and I'm with him on this and I want people to be optimally healthy but how bad is it if there's not legal action yet? How bad is radon gas? Right.
Remember how bad, oh god, what causes mesothemioma? Asbestos. Asbestos. There was
asbestos everywhere, remember? All the time. It's in every tile,
it's in all the adhesives, in every building. It's a killer. Okay, well then if we've all just been
living in asbestos huts our entire lives, then why doesn't everyone have mesothemaoma? What are we
talking about here? I mean, I agree with you. It's like, if COVID is a killer, how come nobody, no kid in my neighborhood
died or even got sick of COVID? You can't tell me aspartame is bad, 200 million diet
cokes are consumed daily in America, and nobody's dropping dead.
Not even just dropping dead, just having anything.
Having anything. All right. So yes, I will go along with you and say I would prefer my children not to drink diet coke.
Right, exactly.
I'm not going along with you that it's a cancerous agent that is killing, you know, whatever.
Yeah, it's not that we see it. And it's funny, I think we're all kind of screwed up by what happened with tobacco,
where it was so clearly a carcinogen, and people, you know. Well, remember, they had, you know,
Dow got sued out of existence for silicone implants.
That was just a bunch of crazy chicks
and a bunch of fucking lawyers.
That didn't prove to be anything.
I mean, there was no link between
silicone breast implants and cancer,
whatever they said it was,
but they settled for millions and millions of dollars, whatever it said it was, but they
settled for millions and millions of dollars and it wasn't even a thing.
There's a lot of that. Well the point is that the law is triggered so easily it
doesn't even have to be reflected in reality. Right. If there's a hint of
trouble they get into it and they figure out a way to get money out of it. Yes.
There's no hint.
No.
That's how you know it's not so bad.
All right.
So what else you got, Drew?
What are you thinking about?
Yeah, I'm thinking a lot about the food supply these days.
I'm not quite sure what to do with all...
I'm going to go...
At some point, I'm going to go talk to him.
Oh, by the way, another area of rash...
RFK.
Yeah.
By the way, speaking of...
I also know the new Surgeon General appointee, Janine.
Oh, yeah.
She's lovely, I've known her for a long time.
She's great.
People are taking all kinds of issue with her.
I don't get it.
This is the same point I made before.
Name for me one Surgeon General candidate
in the roll up to an administration that you had an issue
with or you even fucking knew the name of. Did anyone take issue with the last
Surgeon General? The last one, here's the craziness, in the early, yes I think this
is the early part of the Biden administration, it was a nurse. Yeah.
Why didn't you have an issue with that? Well, nobody takes issue with that guy because
he just said whatever Biden told him to say. So he didn't have his own thoughts.
But that's kind of what the job is. The job is not extreme. It's not.
I know. Nobody cares. Listen, by the way, these people who pretend to care about the
appointees. Why can't they look at the previous administration?
They don't care.
Their job is to attack whoever Trump appoints.
They're not really, they don't care.
They're not worried about Pete Hegs out there or something.
They don't care.
They don't care.
Listen.
These same people, the exact same people,
exact same people, said in the last several years
that there was, that Trump was Putin's puppet, right?
Getting his marching orders from the Kremlin, right?
Okay, steal dossier, had all the information on him.
Okay, they said that was happening.
They said that COVID came from a wet market, not from a lab.
They said that once you got vaccinated, you couldn't get it, you couldn't spread it,
you couldn't do it, you know, it was dead, stopped in its tracks. Natural immunity was not good.
Ivermectin was bad, hydroxychloroquine was bad. Lockdowns were good. Six foot was good, Mask was good. Then they moved on to Hitlerian
and he's gonna be a dictator.
And they rode the dictator Hitlerian thing
until just about the election.
And then they stopped, you know,
two days after the election.
They don't believe a fucking word they're saying, Drew.
They do not believe it.
They don't.
It's kind of sad and it's kind of confusing to you and I especially when you talk
You picture someone like Hillary Clinton and you kind of are Barack Obama and you kind of go like what the fuck are they?
Because they they have sad they weird people up who do believe it. That's what's trouble
They don't believe in any other but the but the people do they don't believe in any trans shit
They don't believe in any black lives matter stuff. They don't believe in any trans shit, they don't believe in any Black Lives Matter stuff,
they don't believe border stuff,
they don't have any thoughts, any thoughts.
And they don't have any thoughts about these.
But they're people that do, that's the thing.
They get them to have thoughts,
they don't have thoughts about Tulsi Gabbard.
Tulsi Gabbard's also owned by Putin.
They don't think that,
just like they don't think Trump's a dictator.
They honestly don't think any of this stuff.
Gavin Newsom doesn't think COVID's dangerous
or he wouldn't go to the French Laundry
with 30 of his friends and have a four hour dinner.
Doesn't think it's dangerous, you understand?
None of them, they don't think any of it.
Hillary Clinton doesn't think.
Hillary Clinton of all people, she's the one who hired the creation of the Steele dossier.
Do you think she knows where it came from?
She created it.
You think she's worried about him being Putin's puppet?
Her campaign created it.
So she knows more than anybody on the planet, Drew.
Do you understand?
I do.
Okay.
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